should children be made to raise a class piglet as part of their school curriculum, and then at the end of the year be made to slaughter it so they can be taught where their food comes from?
Just give me the piglet and I'll roast that little nigga
>>21099920I massacred a pickled piglet in my highschool anatomy class.
>NO NOT LE HECKIN' SNOOTY PIGLET!
>>21099920Yeah why not, i’d make a whole festivus out of the ordeal. Don’t tell them how to dispatch the piggy though, let them figure that on their own.
>>21099920No, who cares where your food came from?Industrialized food is mankinds greatest achievement.
>>21099920Yeah, and then they get a BBQ
>>21099920Muslims children, yes.
>>21100211This is the cooking board, not the /vegan/ board nor is it /out/.
>>21100214Be careful, there was an /out/ tourist here last week shitting up the board with a shitty question and then complaining about every reply.
>>210999204H? FFA?
>>21100214Ironic since most vegan "food" is just industrialized goyslosp , you're a lazy fag that can't cook, Not that anon btw
>>21099920You know they say that all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Samoa Joe and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another wrestler, you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak and I'm not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at beat me. Then you add Kurt Angle to the mix, your chances of winning drastic go down. See the 3 way at Sacrifice, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Kurt Angle KNOWS he can't beat me and he's not even gonna try!So Samoa Joe, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice. But then you take my 75% chance of winning, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, I got 141 2/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice. See Joe, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at Sacrifice.
>>21100235What do you have to say about school kids keeping ducks and slaughtering them at the end of the year for food?
>>21100249I don't want my tax dollars going toward school ducks, when the ducks at the park are free.
Most sane vegan.
>>21100235You could beat me, for sure. Well you could beat me OFF, if you understand what I'm trying to convey? In case you don't understand, I meant you could masturbate my phallus until it ejaculates semen.
>>21099920Only problem is that pigs should be slaughtered in November and that doesn't line up with the school year. You'd acquaint the children with a piglet in spring, then by the time they come back from summer break the pig would've grown into a big ol' mean hog with the squealing and ankle-biting, generally unsafe for little ones.A more reasonable idea would be to raise chickens or ducks then slaughter them in April. That way you can even turn them into chicken nuggets which is every child's favorite food.
Short answer, no. Long answer, anyone that eats meat should, at some point in their lives, either catch or raise their own meal. Just once. Hunting, home raised, a fishing trip just to escape from the city for a bit, whatever. Anything to teach kids the value of a meal. The public school system is not the place to do that though, this is really more of an intimate life lesson. Heavily encouraged at the guidance of a loved one, but ultimately voluntary.
>>21100137I think this was a pretty based sentence anon. I'm not sure if I entirely agree, especially things as they are now, but based.
>>21099920Sure, so long as they also spend 6 months in the fields to see where bread, potatoes and apples come from, 6 months working the salt mines to see where their salt comes from, and 6 months in the sewers to see where everyone's shit goes. It's important to get a complete education.
>>21100320Taking care of a single animal isn't a full time job, you facetious cunt.Nothing you listed is remotely equivalent, this is straight up hyperbole.
>>21099920>Kids his name is luau and at the end of the year we're gonna cut his ass open and mop some of that piggy sauce on his insides, pull him apart, and you'll see just how delicious he is
>>21100320As well as 6 months watching live births so they know where babies come from.
>>21100353Why just watch when you can-(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>21100352>The weak beget the strong children, look around ye, it is evident in all things, in nature and in artifice! Eat Luau and grow strong, children! For there is no rest or glory for the weak anywhere in the abyss, children!I want state taxes to fund this.
Already did this. >be me, little kid>get newborn piglet soon after Christmas>told his name is, translated into English, Little Easter>cool! i have a pet pig named Little Easter!>love my little porcine buddy>cute as fuck, cuddly as fuck, friendly as fuck>have lots of family over one day>talk to cousins about my new piggy pal>wanna introduce them>can't find Little Easter>oh well, maybe's he's hiding or something idk, it's time for lunch anyway so let's eat>roast pork!! my favourite!>eat and eat and eat>full>wanna go play with Little Easter>still can't find him>ask mom where Little Easter is>"what?">i can't find Little Easter!>"what are you talking about?">my pig! where is he?>"w-what...? today is Easter... we ate the pig for the holiday. was he good?"I was four or, at the oldest, five. I didn't understand what the fuck Easter was at that age so I guess when the adults said something about him being "for Easter" I misunderstood that as his name.This was a real blow. Didn't eat pork again for a while, but eventually gave up on that. At least Little Easter was delicious. I'm sorry, buddy.Before him, we'd eaten old hens that no longer laid and that didn't bother me because chickens aren't as cuddly or cute as piglets.I still don't know who slaughtered him but I found out one of the neighbours slaughtered and plucked the chickens for us.
>>21100334That's not what facetious means. The word you're looking for is disingenuous, retard.
>>21100267I agree with you. I think that anybody who's ever driven a car should build one from scratch, including welding. MIG, PAW and TIG. They should also rig the electronics. The should also mill, blend, build and cure their own tyres too.
>>21100447Your use of disingenuous is always slightly off. It seems to have stuck with you since you thought you learned what the word meant. Facetious was apt in this regard.
>>21100450>I think that anybody who's ever driven a car should build one from scratch, including welding. MIG, PAW and TIG. They should also rig the electronics. The should also mill, blend, build and cure their own tyres too.I think that would be great. But unfortunately, having everyone take a full certification in agronomics and engineering isn't really feasible.So let's keep the lessons to at least changing a tire, replacing your oil/filter, growing a small garden, and a fishing trip so they at least get the basic experience of each.
>>21099920You need a lot of room for pigs to be happy, and they can be quite destructive if you don't have that room. I'm doing my first batch of pasture pigs. They're pretty cool dudes.
>>21100631That contravenes your mantra though.
>>21100666It really doesn't. I fully support the division of labor and specialization. I don't think people should be proficient or experts in every craft. But I think they should have just enough experience to be humble and respectful of other people's careers so that the labor is properly valued.
>>21100456>facetious – treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humourOh my dear, sweet child. Tell me: where's the serious issue >>21100320 is discussing as well as the deliberately inappropriate or indeed flippant humour used to comment on it. I'll wait for you to point it out. : )But y'know what that post does, in fact, convey? An insincere and non-candid comment, which just so happens to be the definition of disingenuous.Facetious was not apt in this regard. Do learn what words mean before attempting to use them.
>>21100714I'm not learning to weld just so I can drive a car to work on software, and this way of thinking is why you don't work on software. Enjoy losing your job to AI in a few months.
Yes.
>>21099920No but they should all be forced to eat a slice of bacon or two every morning so they grow up nice and strong
>>21100880>where's the serious issueBesides throwing children in salt mines for months on end? You have brain damage. Get help
city boy detected they do that with chickens in rural schools. even though most kids there have already hunted and butchered animals for food
>>21100924What the fuck are you talking aboutAre you high
>>21100254You think so? I honestly and unironically read this as a meat-eater advocating a way to get people to understand that slaughtering and eating animals is a natural and healthy part of life. I think it would be great for my kids to get used to it, play with the little piggie and then send him to valhalla and feast on his flesh.
>>21100320I remember this one mentally ill waiter somewhere on this website who was unjokingly trying to argue that everyone should be legally mandated to work in food service so we'd be nicer to waiters.
>>21100932Take a reading comprehension course, Kumail.
>>21100954Legally mandated is too far, but he's right that everyone should at least work a lot level job at least once in their lives.
>>21100966Hey, you're the one who doesn't know what facetious means.
>>21100972I agree with that, but he's retarded for thinking food service is the one that matters. It reflects the pathetic sorts of mental illness these people have, they think the whole world should exist to accommodate them and allow them to live the childish life they dream off.I'm sure he gives shit to call center workers, law enforcement, etc. without thinking about their side of it.
>>21100954I agree with this too, too many people are assholes simply because they've never been in the other person's shoes.
>>21100975See >>21100880>deliberately inappropriate or indeed flippant humour Try again, Achmed
>>21100985I think everyone should be mandated by law to do the job of every other person on the planet. And also deal with their home life and financial situation, so they really get what it's like.
>>21100988Uh yeah, arguing reductio ad absurdum to claim we should throw children into mines it's both flippant and inappropriate.This is embarrassing, stop posting
>>21100990Yeah, sure. why not. People are job hopping in this gig economy anyway, so you might as well make the most of it.
>>21099920I guarantee that they'd all give themselves food poisoningSounds cool, but it would never work. Even if you could unfuck the regulation barriers (spoiler alert, most people in a modern cityscape aren't qualified to slaughter hogs for general consumption), you have questions to answer like>Where will the pig be held, and how will it's feeding and care be paid for?>Which of the children actually kills the pig, and how?>What happens if the piglet accidentally dies midway through the year?>What about allergies, religious dietary restrictions, and vegetarian children?>What if parents don't want their children to be involved in killing a pig?It sounds cool, but it's a titanic pain, and most schools not already equipped with an agricultural facility will probably look at you like your head just exploded.Just have kids grow plants in a greenhouse. It's faster, easier, cleaner, and still helps biology instruction.
>>21101003Believe it or not, the law is actually set up to make it pretty easy to do small-time agriculture, especially in red states. The government loves to simp for farmers in general, because it strengthens the sort of patriotic image they like to build, and because farmers vote.
>>211010034H programs do something similar, but you just raise the pig then auction it off.
>>21101020I am aware that farmer's markets and the equivalent make small-level agriculture easier in some places. However, schools inside cities probably don't really want to deal with the logistical headache of pig farming, even if they don't take up as much space. In between the fact that they're still animals, may get disease, and can bite or even kill children under the worst conditions and most children in cities aren't really used to dealing with them, I can only assume it goes south more often than not. That's a relatively large risk for a relatively small benefit.Besides all that, kids are little shits, and I wouldn't be surprised if a 'tough guy' took a knife to school so he could stab a pig to death for fun.
>>21100880I just hope you don't misuse words where it matters because nobody really cares on here whether you do, but in the outside world somebody may think you're a slight dullard
>>21101020No, it's because the farmer has been one of the guiding visions of America since the literal founding days, it being the particular dream of Thomas Jefferson.
>>21101022Something like this as a kind of extracurricular where the participants go and practice agriculture seems like the path forward if you really wanted to advocate for this. One dedicated facility in a city that serves multiple schools, making it easier to tie off any paperwork loose ends.
Multiple psychopath women in my school owned pet pigs for some reason
>>21101053That's just a longer version of what I already said.>it strengthens the sort of patriotic image they like to build
>>21099920Kinda sadistic isn't it? Asking children to raise a cute liddle piggy as a pet then forcing them to slaughter it as a farm animal. What's next, you going to pretend to love a guy then fuck his best friend in front of him?
>>21099920Which child gets to do the killing?I killed rabbits as a boyscout back in the day, but they were raised on a farm. Then we roasted them over an open fire. Best damn rabbit I ever had.
>>21101063They're nice animals and good pets if you have the space for them.
>>21100439High effort and mildly amusing, have a pity (You)
I believe teenagers should be taken on a mandatory tour of an animal farm and a slaughterhouse, just so they know that every burger and strip of bacon is paid for with fear and pain of sentient beings. What they choose to do with that knowledge is up to them.
>>21100252You know your taxes paid for the park ducks too, right? TANSTAAFD
>>21101127Rabbit is good.>>21101187Next time you go to a store like Wal-Mart, Target, or even the next time you call your Internet provider, I want you to remember that what people consider "professionalism" is someone subordinating their own personality to put on the image of a good employee so that they can continue to get the money they need in order to survive.Also, a pig would eat you if able and would feel nothing more than indigestion and satisfaction.The up and down of that is that life ain't fucking fair, and most humans don't have morals, they have emotions, motives, narratives, and rationalization.
>>21099920Holy fuck the dumbest libtard shills on this board today....
>>21099920chainsawman reference??????
>>21101097>Kinda sadistic isn't it?why? you can both love animals AND eat them
>>21099920Yes
>>21100937I think it was in 1st or 2nd grade that we were all given chicks to raise. Kept mine as a pet until it was fully fledged out, and then we had it for dinner. I didn't have to do the grisly deed, my mom grew up on a farm and had no qualms about killing, plucking and cooking my "pet".
>>21100249We had ducks in 4th grade, hatched them from eggsThere were 5 and every night someone was supposed to take them home, then at the end we were allowed to keep them
>>21099920They should be raised to joyously engage in the slaughter people like you
should children be made to copulate as part of their school curriculum, and then at the end of the year be made to witness their classmates give birth so they can be taught where they came from?
>>21099920It’s far more profitable to raise a goat https://nypost.com/2024/11/05/us-news/calif-girl-wins-300k-settlement-from-police-who-seized-slaughtered-goat/
>>21102274Anon, don't be gross.Children don't need to have sex, and in fact, it's very damaging to them. This is a really poor comparison.They do, however, need to eat. And if your child consumes at least one whole chicken a month, it's more than appropriate you teach them the value of their food.
On each packet of meat they should be made to display a picture of the corpse of the animal that ended up in the packetI will make an exception for chicken and ducks because that wouldn't be feasible, just a generic photograph of a corpse would doIt'd be like the cancer photos on cigarette packets There are too many people out there eating meat who wouldn't eat meat if they were confronted by the grim reality of animal slaughter, particularly womenIf weak willed women would only eat meat if they avoided the reality of how that nicely processed packet of meat ended up in the meat section of their supermarket then I think that illusion ought to be broken
>>21099920No, if we're going that route I'd rather they take a field trip to a slaughterhouse or commercial pig,cattle, or chicken farm to get an actual understanding of the industrial process of which 95% or more of modern food production actually is. Maybe have a USDA or other meat-packing inspector walk through it. Raising a class animal to slaughter would arguably create a more false and romantic view of animal husbandry than what modern factory farming entails to meet the price demands of the average Costco/Wal-Mart's meat dept.
>>21102334Increase/create more stringent quality of life standards for all livestock and poultry. This would raise the price of all meats resulting in significantly less consumption while improving people's health(higher quality meat) and the well being of all animals destined for the chopping block.
This thread just made me think of it, but I had some really cool male Teachers when I was in School (Gr 6-8 here).They would do a yearly pig roast and all these other cool events that they planned outside of their class time for us. Taught us how to build computers, install DOS/Windows.They actually cared. If it was today, they would never be allowed to do anything like that... Sad.
>>21099920my school couldnt even afford field trips or dancesit would be nice if all schools could afford shit like that, yeah but id put it low on the priority list
>>21101047You mean like >>21100456 not knowing what disingenuous or facetious mean, having both explained to her yet she still insists she's right? Of course I wouldn't do that. I'm not a woman.>>21100993Sweetheart, you don't know what flippant means and wouldn't be able to tell me what's inappropriate about the comment.
>>21100320Ignoring the hyperbole, is this sort of education not part of a normal school curriculum? I remember leaning all that stuff, there were school trips to farms and mills and yes even a literal salt mine. We did projects about water treatment facilities and power plants, all that kind of thing.
>>21099920I was a massive edgelord when I was a kid so I would have no problem with this
>>21103284>I wasstill are
i think instead of down-homey life lesson shit they should focus more on trying to figure out the specific learning methods work for each student.
>>21105258I'm not an edgelord anymore :(
>>21099920No, it's not hygienic to keep livestock in a school
>>21100211this>>21100214fucking retard look at the top of your page it literally says>/ck/- Animal Husbandry & Slaughter
No, parents are responsible for the actions of their children including what they eat. This is beyond retarded and I can't believe this has to be explained
>>21099920No, pork is haram
>>21103146Field trips with participation is normal for most schools. He also knows that, which is why he felt the need to make his examples hyperbolic in the first place.
>>21105549>parents are responsible for the actions of their children including what they eatThat hasn't been the case since school was mandated. You steal someone's child for 8 hours a day under threat of arrest or seizure, how does the parent have control of what their kids eat?
>>21105572Are you talking about what they eat at school? Just prepare a vegetarian meal for them
>>21105584Uh, okay. How are you going to make the kid eat it?
No. A cow, sheep, or a chicken, sure. Cattle, sheep, and fowl are so fucking stupid it is impossible to see them as anything but future meat. They are basically pre-scripted NPC animals and if they ever show a glimmer of life they age out of it pretty quick. They're dumber than the dumbest dogs. My earliest experience with animal husbandry was killing chickens inside the chicken run with my dad. It's not just that they dont react, they rush to try and eat the chicken you just killed. Cattle, just don't react. They react to screaming, blood and loud noises. If you brain them one after another with a silenced .45, not one single cow reacts as if it has realized the metal stick causes cows to die.Pigs, on the other hand, should not be farmed. They are as smart as a slightly above average dog, and act basically the same. Pigs know when they are going to die. Pigs fight back after they see you kill another pig. No matter how you do it. Even if its in another room. They KNOW.The only reason our society farms them is because they are cheap to feed and it is implicitly anti-semitic. Note that jews have an average IQ that is FIFTEEN POINTS, ONE STANDARD DEVIATION, higher than whites. Their ENTIRE distribution is shifted by 1 SD, meaning they arent just smarter on average, but have over 10x more geniuses. They do not eat pork. They do not eat dog. They do not eat cat.To the jews, you look as barbaric and psychopathic as the chinese for slaughtering these animals. And no wonder, pork is notorious for tasting exactly like human flesh.
>>21105589How are you going to make sure your kid doesn't stab a random person when he's out playing?
>>21105591pigs are such mindless eating machines they will fucking eat you if you stumble into their dirty pigsty by accident, stop simping for these beasts
>>21105591>porks has telepathy lol, lmao even
>>21105595That's the school's responsibility, you're the one who kidnapped my child in the first place
>>21105602Who said anything about school?
>>21105591Jews don't eat pork because they are vileAlso Muslims don't eat pork either, why they don't have higher IQ?
>>21105603The OP, pay attention
>>21105610You make your children act the way you want by raising them., that way you don't have to watch your child 24/7 to make sure they don't kill someone. In the same way you could just teach them to be vegetarian instead of turning every classroom in the world into a pigsty
>>21105616>You make your children act the way you want by raising themI'm not raising them, the school is.
>>21105618Is the school force feeding your children meat?
>>21105572>You steal someone's child for 8 hours a daylmaoMy brother's kid has never set foot in a school. No arrest was made. You just have to teach them at home.
>>21105628Are they offering my kids meat? Are they prohibiting my kids from eating meat? Where do I have control over this?
>>21105635Oh, well in that case the answer is absolutely, yes, slaughtering an animal should be a part of the curriculum.
>>21105636You've had 12+ years to raise your child and conduct your own experiments with them, if that doesn't have an effect how is one small school experiment supposed to work?Your premise is that schools should teach complex, expensive and unsanitary moral experiments but then you're saying teaching children morality doesn't work
>>21105638My brother is also a vegan*, tho lmao>* he and my SiL never made my niece be vegan but that's how they eat at home; when they used to come round ours for holidays, she was allowed to eat the turkey or the lamb or whatever the fuck, they just wouldn't have it in their house**>** unless our parents flew in from across the pond for Christmas or something cuz you don't have an alpine woman fly that distance for a holiday and feed her fucking tofu
>>21105641>You've had 12+ years to raise your child and conduct your own experiments with themI've had 5 years with them, they got abducted into the school system shortly after they learned how to walk and talk
>>21105664And why can't you send a vegetarian lunch with your 5 year old?
>>21099920should be a cow instead
>>21099920some lessons can be taught at home, fact. Cows, chickens, pigs are farm animals, not classroom pets.
>>21105668Because said 5 year old simply does not exist
>>21102354yeah unlike the prewar generations that put the livestock in light less stables at the ground floor of the house. Look how much space they and how sanitary it was
>>21106026I raised a hen in primary school (other students raised roosters that were sent away)
>>21099920when I was growing up, my grandma used to ask if I wanted chicken for dinner, I would always say yes, and she'd hand me an axe and say "go catch one"the worst part was actually the plucking.
>>21100450Unironically yes
>>21109822>unironicallyYou seem like someone whose opinion should be listened to.
>>21109826>>21109822
>>21100137This was the argument I came in here to make. Who cares? Perhaps OP should eat shit so he knows where food goes as well.
no
>>21099920Did you just read Silver Spoon?
in an ideal world, children would be stored in maturation chambers until they're old enough to be released without ruining the world for everyone else
