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Started browsing a few kefir communities lately. One thing that is particularly funny is these communities are always full of Americans talking about how their first taste of kefir gave them violent diarrhea. There is genuinely something funny and sad about how Americans' gut biomes have been so polluted by soy, corn syrup and petroleum-based food dyes that their gut literally shits and farts itself at the sight of healthy bacteria.

Genuinely what can even be done to help these people?
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I don't know why everything causes them gastrointestinal Armageddon. I'm from yurp but live in the US and people here talk about Taco Bell or Panda Express and other chain restaurants always giving them diarrhoea and while I don't eat at these places often, nor have I ever had any issue from doing so.
I mention this to point out that's it's not about going from artificial frankenfood to genuine since Taco Bell and Panda Express certainly couldn't be described as anything but frankenfood.
There's just something different about them in general. Everything gives them problems.
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I didn't have that problem myself but I have witnessed others having some issues adjusting to kefir. Hell, my coworkers can't go out to eat mexican without getting the squirts after and I've seen others treat probiotic pills as a laxative.
Artificial sweeteners kill off good gut microbes but most Americans love "0 calorie" foods and "diet" drinks and I think they end up nuking their intestinal flora as a result.
In my observation, a couple grams of fiber will also trigger the shits for many people here.
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since my gall bladder removal all super fatty food gives me diarrhea
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>>21110652
I have the answer OP, but I'm not going to share it here because I intend to profit from it.

>>21110692
Just take ox bile bro
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>>21110652
Do I really want to drink a bowl of tonsil stones?
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>>21110652
even if your diet is perfectly healthy, introducing a large amount of new bacteria from a fermented food can cause diarrhea.

i'm not lactose intolerant but if i go a long time without drinking milk then having it again even if my diet was perfectly healthy i'll have an upset stomach the first time then be fine after that.
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rent free
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>>21110661
myself and others i know had digestive issues after eating fast food like that until we stopped drinking soda
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>>21110716
You strain the grains out. It's like a thin yogurt that is sometimes slightly carbonated. Really tasty stuff.

>>21110722
This.
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>>21110707
>Just take ox bile bro
Not that Anon, but I actually had ox bile prepared as a dipping sauce for grilled meat and raw vegetables when I visited Vientiane.
I like bitter foods but that really wasn't my thing. It's called jeow bi, if you want to look into it yourself.
Actually, I'm gonna link to this post from the "weird foods" thread. I doubt anyone else here had eaten water buffalo ox bile.
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>>21110652
Huh? I drink kefir everyday. Why are yuropoors so retarded?
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>>21110741
That sounds like something I would try twice. I wonder where I could even get fresh ox bile for cooking in the united states.
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>>21110652
idk i never had that issue. kefir is great though, super easy to culture and very useful in the kitchen, both drinking for probiotics or using in sauces, bread, etc.
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>>21110748
I live in a heavily Asian area to the point that besides the Asian church and Buddhist temple at my corner, there are also two Lao Buddhist temples within a couple of miles of me, as well. As a result, the Asian supermarkets here sell frozen beef bile but it's from domestic cattle rather than water buffalo (I checked the container and it says product of USA on it so I doubt it's anything but). If you know of an area with a lot of SEA residents, they might have it, too.
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>>21110754
That would make sense. I have bought lots of meat from farms and done even more looking online, and I have never seen ox bile for sale. With a quick search, the results are only for extracts to be taken as nutritional supplements, which work! If I ever go to a big city again, I will have to investigate.
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>>21110652
>>21110661
Yurpean here too and while in the US I felt really bad eating some breakfast cookies because of the amount of sugar. I felt my veins became solid and felt extreme unease for the whole day. I did not hav diarreah but I was impressed by my body's reaction to a simple american chocolate chip cookie. If I ws born there only god knows how would I be now.
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>>21110856
>breakfast cookies
i'm american and have never heard of breakfast cookies. unless you mean that one cookie cereal but nobody really thinks that's healthy.

there is definitely too much sugar in most things though. you could probably reduce the amount of sugar in everything by 25% and it would still taste sweet without making you feel as sick.
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>>21110865
Maybe Anon means granola bars. I eat them for breakfast sometimes because of the fact that they're basically cookies. More on that below.
>>21110856
I'm that guy. We actually do eat cookies for breakfast in my home country but only one or two (unless they're made of milk plasma; those cookies are tiny) and they're not as sweet as American cookies tend to be. It's kinda funny. Breakfast cereal, cookie shaped or otherwise, is pretty much just a bowl of broken cookies yet my neighbour looked at me as though I suddenly sprouted seventeen heads when I took her shopping with me and bought some cookies "for breakfast tomorrow." Other Americans have also found it a bit odd until I point out the cereal thing. They also find dipping fried chicken in mayonnaise weird but have no problems have mayonnaise on their McChickens, the best fast food sandwich.
Anyway, I hate hate hate hate hate chocolate chip cookies. Try oatmeal cookies. Soft, crunchy or chewy, all oatmeal cookies are delicious. While American sweets in general just aren't to my tastes, they definitely got it right when it came to both oatmeal cookies and graham crackers (which are actually cookies).
Americans excel with salty, crunchy snacks, though. I would bludgeon a kitten to death with a second, cuter kitten if it meant I'd both get a lifetime supply of Sun Chips and that I could eat my fill and never get fat.
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>>21110856
>I felt my veins became solid
So you experienced what was very obviously a placebo? You were so obsessed with the idea that your body would physically recoil from American food, when it didn't you had to imagine something that clearly couldn't have happened? That's really sad.
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>>21110652
>first taste of kefir gave them violent diarrhea
>>21110661
>people here talk about Taco Bell or Panda Express and other chain restaurants always giving them diarrhoea
these are tropes. no one gets the runs from eating at any FF place, or kefir. they just make shit up because le funny.
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>>21110652
Dairy is so gross ew wtf. I just know that shit smells and tastes like sour day-old vomit
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>>21110723
>myself and others i know had digestive issues after eating fast food like that until we stopped drinking soda
this. I found out that all my problems with getting the shits mysteriously were related to drinking HFCS, mentioned it to a doctor and he indicated I probably was fructose intolerant.

the other reason this happens is called dumping, and is related to having diabetes.
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>>21110652
I want to make Russian black bread but I am scared to make a sourdough starter with kaffirs. How can you tell if it's a good starter or literally something that will poison and potentially kill you.
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>>21110661
both of those places can be relatively high fiber compared to "american" fast food like chick fil a or mcdonalds
for those of us who regularly eat vegetables it's nothing but when your diet is approx zero fiber it gets to you
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>>21110742
Nice anecdote, now leave.
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>>21110652
>>21110661
I'm 'murican through and through but try to avoid slop and this shit never happens to me. The most filtered I ever got was unflavored kefir tasting too bitter.
Aldi was like my oasis when they still sold mostly European food.
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>>21110907
>dumping
heh

i think i get symptoms of that from starchy food though. and fruit gives me a bit of indigestion. for whatever reason i have zero issues with carbs in milk though no matter how much i consume.
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>>21110652
Gotta love how thirdies condition themselves to eat rotten milk and have to make up fake stories and whine about how normal people don't like the taste of rotten milk. Kefir is one of the worst forced memes on here and it's always the same retard making these threads and same fagging them into oblivion.
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>>21110652
>Started browsing a few kefir communities lately.
Wild sentence bro.
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>>21110652
>this post violates United States law
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>>21110652
Yeah
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The samefagging in this thread is impressive



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