good coffee
goffee even

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What's the best way to make coffee?
What's the best coffee powder?

I've been going to the local Tim Horton's for coffee or boiling water dumping coffee powder into the pot.

Teach me, /ck/.

I don't care about the price of coffee machine as long as its not too expensive.

Or is boiling hot water in a pot and dumping coffee powder the best way?

>>21814381
read the pastebin

>>21814350
PISS
OUT
MY
ASS

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>erm, you actually need to pay $400 for this hand grinder, it’s in the pastebin sweaty
It’s just coffee, why is this “hobby” so pretentious?

>>21814620
buy the p1 and shut up about it

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Do I really have to buy a $400 espresso machine when $100 delolghis exist?
Do I really have to run a bunch of water through the machine to warm it up and even preboil the handle because it can't possibly be my technique or coffee grind, no it's the brew temp ruining my coffee.
Do I really have to waste a bunch of coffee dialing in with a an autistic scale and timer perfectly timing the shot myself and whisking the puck and using spring loaded tampers because unpressurized aftermarket portafilter are soooooooo much better you're just gonna make sour coffee if you use the included pressurized double spouted portafilter they're for the unwashed plebs who buy preground but not you, you're special and need to make a 20 minute ritual out of making 40ml of black swill

y'know what I think I'll stick to my nespresso thanks

>>21815077
skill issue fag

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if you dont like brewing coffee, why are you here?

>>21815077
just shut up and get an aeropress

I make a liter of coffee with a french press at work. I want to use a drip machine but I cant find anything that is 100% steel.
Does anyone have any reccs that arent espresso machines costing hundreds of dollars?

>>21815513
espresso machines use plastic tubing for pressurized boiling water

>>21815227
I like brewing coffee, most of the steps are completely optional and people act like they're not.

>>21815227
I was in a foul mood because my hand grinder handle broke and then like 1 minute later the bottom compartment that holds the grounds wiggled from the force of the grinding and came loose and spilled like 15+ grams of almost-completely-ground beans all over my carpet.
I don’t want to have to go spend $200 on a grinder, it’s a depressing thought.

>>21815631
like which
if you think using a scale or grinding your own coffee doesn't matter, you're retarded

>>21815077
>Do I really have to buy a $400 espresso machine when $100 delonghi exist?
The Magnifica Evo seems to be going on a run-out special. You can get one of those and it'll do the job.

>>21814381
>been going to the local Tim Horton's
you're better off going to McRonald's

>>21815513
>drip machine (...) that is 100% steel
The closest I've heard of are the drip machines made by Ratio Coffee, but they still have a considerable amount of plastic.

>>21815227
>why are you here?
because its the least bad general on this board.

>>21814434
HEY YOU!
explain this "chainsaw man" thing in 20 words or less.
NOW!

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>>21814429
>HOFFMAN
>TONGUES
>MY
>ANUS

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>>21815513
>liter
>er

>>21815875
looks like some kind of comic book

>>21814389

Yes, don't have a conversation with a new person. Tell them to leave and read a book.
Shit like this would have never happened back before the internet. If someone showed up to a local coffee drinkers club asking for advice and guidance they would never have been told to go away and find a coffee book in the library.
I despise lazy gatekeeping shit like this. I mean, why the fuck are you even here? Why have this thread?

>>21815913
If you have specific questions then ask them but to come in here putting in zero fucking effort yourself and expect everyone else to put in work helping you when you can't even bother to help yourself is pathetic.

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How about all stupid questions get redirected to buy a nespresso vertuo machine instead?

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>>21815875
I'm legitimately surprised people exist who haven't watched CSM, that's crazy to me.
https://files.catbox.moe/kjj39j.mp4

>>21816207
i see it posted all the time but whenever i ask what it is i just get told to watch it.
which signals to me that either its shit and the fans dont want to say so or the fans are just too stupid to communicate what the show is about.
i also find it interesting that instead of telling me what its about you just tell me to watch it.
so do you know its shit and dont want to say or are you simply too stupid to tell me what its about yourself?

>>21816218
Basically there is a dog with a chainsaw face and a guy with a chainsaw face and they team up to fight powertool and other thing-faced people.

>>21816220
thanks :)
im not interested in watching that at all.
but i hope you like it.

Should I get a Kingrinder k6 for 13,000 jpy ($83)
Or a 1Zpresso K-ultra for 32,000 jpy ($204)

I do almost just pour over but if I have a quality grinder I wanna start fucking with my mokapot more. Always using specialty coffee I roast myself at home. Wondering if The K6 is “good enough” or if it’s better to take a buy once cry once approach and if the extra price is worth it.

>>21816207
i just reflexively avoid all popular anime, the last one I watched because it got spammed a lot was bocchi and it was nice I enjoyed it, people usually only spam shounen which is for kids

>>21816236
k6 is retard bait.
the 1Zpresso K-ultra is better but not perfect.
i dont have experience with either thats just what ive heard.

>>21816245
can you stop?
not everything below $1000 is retard bait

>>21816245
Why is it retard bait?

>>21816247
>not everything below $1000 is retard bait
no but the k6 is which is why we recommend it to people who appear to be retarded.
if they buy it they are confirmed to be retarded
if they respond stating they looked into it and found the the k6 isnt actually the best option at that price point then they are not retarded.

>>21816251
It is the best at that price point tho. You may seethe about it if you’d like timemorecel.

>>21816261
yeh totally, that anon should buy one
;)

>>21816236
not from personal experience, but from what ive heard they have extremely similar grind qualities
the k-ultra is surely better built though
if you do exclusively pour over (and not espresso) maybe the zp6 can be better, but it's such a finicky grinder that i cant recommend whole-heartily (took me a long time to know how to use it, change recipes and appreciate what it offers, i used to prefer my ode, now i cant drink out of it)

>>21816236
I do mostly moka pots and some pourovers with specialty beans and i'm happy with my K6. Don't see the need to upgrade unless I want to specialize(like a zp6) or go electric.

>>21816245
>>21816295
>>21816331
Thanks for the feedback. Still on the fence, feel like the K-ultra will definitely have a more “premium” feel but wondering if it’s really worth more than 2x the price will sleep on it a bit more.

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>>21816238
CSM isn't a shonen (not shounen lol), it's a seinen like Berserk. Zero filler, animated by MAPPA second only to studio Ghibli. I can tell you don't really watch anime. You're watching football while skipping the Superbowl. Boring slice-of-life anime (I mean bocchi was alright I guess, a solid 6/10) but CSM is different.
>>21816218
Instead of being insufferable and lashing out you could give it the 3 episode rule. Seeing as how aggressive and low-IQ you are frankly I don't care if you watch or not.
>>21816349
I own a Kingrinder K6 and it's excellent, very high quality and always gives consistent grinds. You'll probably buy the K-Ultra for the peace of mind knowing you have the "better" one but I see that as an absolute waste, the K6 is incredible. I guarantee 100% the anon calling the K6 "retard bait" never even touched a Kingrinder K6, he's clearly unhappy/miserable and taking it out on this general.
Twice he's used emojis in his passive aggressive posts. It's really pathetic.

>>21816232
>>21816263

>>21814350
Greek coffee is fucking atrocious horrible tasting garbage. You'd be better off drinking gasoline.

>>21816362
This is how I feel about the sludge that turkroaches say is coffee

>>21816360
>I don't care if you watch or not.
so why did you reply telling me to watch it?
you talk like a child from south east asia who larps as an american.

>>21816364
Its the same. Ibrik, cezve, srjep, briki. All the same thing.

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>>21816366
Why did I respond? Because you asked??? I'm white Irish/German, but you type like a third-worlder minority, you can't even capitalize your sentences.
This general would be better off without you, you're not adding anything of value 'lil guy

>>21815913
this aint a cafe boyo

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>KinGrinder K6
>Hario V60 Switch
>Black/White Coffee beans
Love my coffee setup, maximum comfy

>>21816383
based and acorn squash pilled

>>21816373
>Why did I respond? Because you asked???
but you didnt respond to the post where i asked.
you responded to all the other ones where i didnt ask.
and and your response shows you care that i dont watch it.
>I'm white Irish/German
lol sure you are.
>you can't even capitalize your sentences.
the only people who call this out are ESL because they have been taught that its THE LAW to.
they have no ability to speak english from their soul and not adhere to its rules because english isnt in their soul, their native (not english) language is.
>This general would be better off without you
says the guy unironically posting anime slop and getting butthurt when someone says they dont and arent going to watch it.
and then getting this triggered by the reply to that.

trying to think of why I would regret a picopresso over a manual lever like a flair and failing to come up with anything. even workflow I don't think it really wins cause the counterspace detraction from all other kitchen workflow makes it favorable.

>>21816414
what about heat management?

>>21816416
oh it's got bad retention? that might be a problem yeah. desu even flair seems not ideal in that regard

>>21816414
Seems like it would be super annoying as your only espresso machine but its only like $100 so might as well get it and give it a shot. At least if you don't like it you can use it for travel or whatever and just buy a flair for home use.

>>21816425
>oh it's got bad retention?
i have no idea, but im just asking
and the fact that you dont know is reason enough to hold off and do a little more research.
i do know that usually portable espresso machines have at best annoying heat management so i assume the pico is the same way
the flair needs to be preheated in some way as seen here
https://youtu.be/Ye5Amz7ddYw?si=Sihn287yjybSOoBi&t=208
and in lance's video of the pico he does a preheat too
https://youtu.be/yZnQ67SyUYg?si=TIWJ56lHS_TPug7M&t=295
you dont need to preheat to pull a good shot but it seems that everyone recommends it.
and preheating espresso machines is so important its the whole reason flair has an electric version thats sole purpose is to preheat the brew chamber with as little work from you as possible.

but considering how cheap and small it is, that annoyance might just be worth it for you.

>>21816436
I don't travel, I just worry about finding space for a flair, would have to remove it from my kitchen counter when not in use which seems not very nice, the pico seems very easy to stash away in a kitchen cabinet, got a pressure gauge and a quickly assembled stand, very appealing. I would pretty much exclusively use it for lighter roasts though so if it can't retain heat that's fucked

>>21814350
>a cortado
Thank you and good morning. I'm having mine right now in Florida. Oh, and "Vive la libertad Venezuela!"

>>21816444
Isn't there also a portable flair now? I'm pretty sure there is and it packs up fairly flat. That might be another option. I would say though that if you are drinking espresso every day it might be worth thinking about making some counter space. Perhaps something is there now that you aren't using daily.

>>21816447
Morning cortado friend.

>>21816414
>failing to come up with anything. even workflow I don't think it really wins cause the counterspace detraction
As long as you have enough space for your cutting board without repositioning, I would say good coffee is #1 priority in the daily life. Go for it. If countertops have depth, you can always park it farther back and use a moving tray to bring it closer. I have a vacation house with an electric IMUSA moka that I keep on top of the fridge when not in use. It's for 3PM moods.

If pavoni did an esperto version without the boiler and retrofitted for the modern manual lever kettle based workflow they would absolutely OBLITERATE everything else in that market category. Probably could do it cheaper than flair 58 too.

>>21816589
>could
would they tho?
i have a feeling they would make it niche and more expensive.
also i dont see how it would "OBLITERATE " the flair.
i would argue they would make the same coffee but look aesthetically different.
arguably the flair would make marginally better coffee because of the heater.

>>21816600
Better build quality, nicer handle that you can actually grasp
>heater
It's ghetto as fuck, pavoni could slap one on just as well
>taste the same
Italy more taste good than America (also 51mm >> 58mm)

>>21816600
Also in terms of pricing I really do think it would be cheaper, dboilers make things expensive, and you can't market kettle based machines to the pro market.

Do you guys have a suggestion for where to buy coffee online? Like are there any good aggregate sites to buy from where you can get all kinds of different coffees from across the country/world? No subscription bullshit, I'm not doing that.

>>21816629
>Better
looking sure, but not more stable or structurally sound than the existing 58
>pavoni could slap one on just as well
sure but that was not part of the original claim
> (also 51mm >> 58mm)
ok lance
>>21816636
>dboilers make things expensive
ok but the claim was that it was cheaper than the flair 58
>>21816656
read the pastebin
>Like are there any good aggregate sites to buy from where you can get all kinds of different coffees from across the country/world?
no

>>21816656
kofio if you are in europe

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Could someone please point me in the right direction to research the best electric gooseneck kettles? Preciously it seemed the OXO was a great option, but it's discontinued now. I currently am using a plain gooseneck kettle on the stove, but need something for in the office. How are the Amazon ones, like Bodum or Cosori? I do light or medium roast pour overs with a V60.

>>21814350
>finally got on Vyvanse at age 29
>drinking my usual entire pot of drip in the morning makes me Buzz like crazy
It was a good excuse to dig my espresso machine out of the pantry and give a thorough cleaning. I've switched to doing one double-shot every morning, it's a nice ritual. Or two, on days when I have a lot of work to do or that I opt to not take the meds (usually weekends).

I love coffee so much bros <3

>>21816719
I would think they're pretty interchangeable, it's just a question of how it feels in your hand in terms of balance and dexterity.
Just get whichever one looks closest to your at-home one, it'll probably feel similar and not fuck your technique.

>>21816719
brewista is good

>>21816748
just make decaf

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>>21816656
Eightouncecoffee if they've sorted shipping out.
>>21816629
Olympia already tried this. Shits on pavoni in terms of build quality. That build quality runs the price up to $1100.

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>>21816589
>>21816772
obsolete

>>21816783
Robots sucked 60 years ago back when they were Baby Faemas. They still suck now. You don't need to respond.

>>21816766
And sacrifice the taste? I'd sooner castrate myself with a spoon.

>>21816772
that is very ugly

>>21816815
>he doesnt drink good decaf
skill issue really.

>>21816719
im pretty happy with the hario temp control one
if you dont care about temp control, you can also get their normal electric kettle, it's a goose neck still

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BEHOLD!
and its only like $250

Flair58's long T handle >

>>21816953
technically 2 medium handles produce more force than 1 long handle

>>21816656
maybe check out beandeals dot com
if youre american anyway

>>21816656
just try a few good roasters and order different single origins from them
Verve are my favorite
Onyx is also good and their Tropical Weather is my favorite blend
Atomic Coffee Roasters is solid for the price and way cheaper, they take like 2-3x as long from order to delivery but a 2 lb bag of single origin ethiopian is under 40 bucks vs 60-70+

>>21814620
Seething poorfag detected

>go to every roaster in my city offering to work for free in exchange for them teaching me how to roast
>90% won’t even look at my resume
What the fuck is wrong with this industry? Or is my city just assbackwards with the gate keeping shit

>>21817051
>>90% won’t even look at my resume
why should they?
>work for free
pretty sure thats illegal.
they probably smell your desperation and get the ick.

>>21817051
this aint big tech
an internship style position like that will just increase competition in a space that is already becoming uncomfortably crowded

>>21817058
it's called a stage and it's in fact very cool to have attractive young men working for you.

>>21817058
specialty coffee is a niche industry and you're literally only trying to get your foot in the door to compete with them directly, other industries know what's up, gatekeep gaslight, girlboss

>>21817074
sounds like an unserious business model

>>21817091
you sound like an unserious person who believes you are entitled to something that you are "unfairly" not getting.

>>21817091
i dont know what to tell you, anon
maybe you should do some research about the industry instead of asking insipid questions on the internet

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>>21817094
i mean what should i do? i don't want to take money from my parents and basically just raw dog my own business having no fucking idea what i'm doing or be forced to make commercial coffee, it's like how the fuck do you into an industry that won't even accept entry positions FOR ZERO WAGEs.
>>21817097
no i'm just coming to the realization i'm not gonna get anything with coffee here in the US and will either have to leave the country and fuck off to Australia or Italy or just pivot to wine which i'm already good at.

>>21817089
>and you're literally only trying to get your foot in the door to compete with them directly
TRVKE
also roasting really isnt that hard.
the only "real" difference between home roasting and commercial roasting would be the computer system they use(if they even use one) and the amount of beans per roast which throws off the behavior of the beans
but most of the skills can be learnt at home.
of course you need to buy the equipment yourself but thats like less than a grand and if you show commercial roasters you have already been roasting on "medium" sized machines and you express that you want to work for THEM they would be more willing to give you a shot.

just saying "teach me for free :)" is retarded.

>>21817104
is there a home roaster you'd recommend i'm not seeing any in the pastebin

>>21817102
>it's like how the fuck do you into an industry that won't even accept entry positions FOR ZERO WAGEs.
you get it via nepotism or by making your own company.
unironically.
i would hope(if you dont live in some third world shithole) that you can google a phrase like "coffee roasting training course" and it will give you results.
i get results ranging from $200-$1000
which is about the cost of getting into home roasting.
and with home roasting you roast your own beans which cuts down on the cost of buying beans and making coffee at home.
but with a training course you dont "get" anything after, other than whatever you learnt in the 1-2 days that you paid for.
and with home roasting you can keep practicing, especially with the amount of free, online videos and write-ups about home roasting.
and you can also just sell the gear to recoup some of the investment.

>>21817111
nta
sweet maria's popper is a great start

>>21817111
that i'd recommend? no, i dont have enough knowledge or experience to tell or advise people on what to spend their money on.
the main thing i would point out is that you have never done it on any level yet so you have no idea if you will even like doing it.
so you probably dont want to spent a "ton" of money on it right away
but also whatever you do get should have parallels with commercial roasters(drum roasters)
but thats just my opinion
you should do alot more ACTUAL research into roasting and roasters before pulling the trigger on anything.

>>21817111
Either drop $100 on a sweet marias popper, $600ish on a freshroast+razzo tube, or $1600-$2000 on a kaffelogic nano 7/nucleus link. After that you get to spend $30k+ on a stronghold. Apparently they fucking suck.

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>>21817117
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>>21817137
grazie amici

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>B&W dropped the Chinese coffee right when I was about to cop
I really wanted to try that 30 day natural...

>>21817111
I used a popcorn machine like autists here recommended for like 2-3 years and it sucked because you can only do a tiny amount at a time and then the engine over heats so a single batch takes forever.
Just got the Gene cafe. Have only run it twice but it’s nice.

>>21816657
>ok but the claim was that it was cheaper than the flair 58
Yes, good boilers generally make up a bigger price difference than esperto to 58
>that was not part of thenpriginal claim
Was too.

>>21816719
is there a good reason you don't wanna use the one everyone is using? just get a fellow. or a hario.

>>21817652
I haven't been laying attention to what's popular for a while now. Didn't know about those. That's honestly what I was looking for, what are the best ones atm.

>>21817676
the brewista is also common, I've seen it the few time's I watched the world brewers world cup, I guess it's a bit heavier and more stable in temp, but I think it's almost entirely preference and looks, no big brand is fucking up the goose neck or the temperature accuracy.

I stopped caring about making the perfect espresso. The minute differences do not matter. Just pour in some milk and a little bit of creamer and it is perfection.

>>21816656
This place has a lot of the big name roasters you might want to try like hydrangea and dak https://hyunah.coffee/collections/coffee

>>21817742
stop pretending you like coffee

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>>21816719
I've had my bonavita VT gooseneck for over 10 years at this point and it still works great.

>>21817742
I think espresso tastes best by itself desu. I don't have a cultural hate for it and I have made a lot of milk drinks just cause I wanted to be good at it, but it just kinda takes away that intense taste that lingers, it removes the wonderful body of espresso with the sort of unpleasant coaty texture of milk.. why would you want to mellow out espresso?

>>21817102
No one wants to hire someone who just wants to learn the ropes and dip. Saying you will work for free makes them less likely to hire you not more. Either get to know your local roasters and then ask for a job or wait for them to have a job opening and work at a cafe in the meantime so you have some relevant industry experience when a job does open up.
>will either have to leave the country and fuck off to Australia or Italy
Italy's coffee culture hasn't changed in 80 years. Aus/NZ or Northern Europe would be where you want to go not Italy.
>>21817111
Do not get a popper or poppery. Its a waste of money for normal people and even more so if you are getting one to learn about roasting before getting into commercial coffee. The minimum would be an SR800 hooked up to Artisan with a Bounce Buster. Next step up would be a Skywalker/itop.

>>21816783
This thing looks fine but I don't trust it purely based by how many people that don't know anything about coffee swear by it.

>>21817762
Your fedora fell on the floor

>>21817781
>why would you want to mellow out espresso?
Lattes, Cappuccino, Flat Whites, Macchiatos are fine.

>>21817805
Of course they're fine, they just taste worse.

>>21817596
>Was too.
"Probably could do it cheaper than flair 58 too."
nope

>>21817834
they could do it cheaper than flair 58 too

>>21816383
>straight handle
OH NONONO

>>21817247
Price-to-quality B&W seems like the best. Onyx spends more on marketing than quality product and the others are too damn expensive.

I hate onyx, probably the least deserving "household name" in specialty roasting. I have a feeling they wouldn't be recognized at all if they didn't acquire some lot exclusivity and tokenism because NA doesn't have enough seats at the table. at least Sey is competent, for an american roaster.

>>21816362
>>21816364
the issue is that most people use supermarket 50% robusta garbage and brew it at boiling temperature.
turkish/greek coffee can be quite good, but there's a reason why everyone puts milk and sugar into this shit. most people use 50% robusta dogshit from supermarkets and keep the water at boiling temperature during the whole brew.
you might as well brew ashes at that point

I want to get a ‘prosumer’ espresso machine E61 style. Are all these Italian built ones sourcing the exact same parts?

I had a ‘consumer’ one that broke after two years and I was annoyed with the poor temp consistency and pump pressure and of course it being broken so fast.
I think a single boiler E61 would be fine but idk if it’s worth paying more for a brand or whatever. ECM seems ideal.

I do espresso daily and steam milk a few times a week and I do a lot of drinks for guests every few months

>>21818617
>I had a ‘consumer’ one that broke after two years and I was annoyed with the poor temp consistency
if im not wrong, temp consistency is a problem in all e61s since there's always a big temp mismatch between the boiler and the grouphead, wouldn't it be better to get a non-e61 in that case?
if you really want a e61, i heard good things about the lelit mara x, it's on the cheaper end and the pid is set by temperature, but still it looks like a great machine that isnt wildly expensive

>>21818630
The ‘consumer’ models generally use a thermal block system to heat and they’re good because they got hot quick but they’re bad because they break. Mine broke. It doesn’t get hot anymore and the manufacterer doesn’t care.

The prosumers heat up the water isntesd if sending cold water through the heat block. The heat exchangers use a heated boiler with a pipe running through it that cools down the hot water for the shot and if you pull successive shots too quickly you will run out hot water but if you give it 30-49 seconds between shots you’ll be ok. The issue with non dual boiler E61s is you’ll not be able to pull shots successively like in a shop because your water temp drops as it flows through the machine.

So the consumers issue is the heat block system is fast and breaks. The low E61 issue is the water needs time to heat up at first (10-30mins) and then every shot and steam you cycle water though the colder machine and it drops a few degrees and needs to be rewarmed. The heat exchangers can even sit and get too cold in the group head so you have a purge to flow warm water in to get it ready. It’s a little more micromanagement but in exchange you have reliable parts that can be wrenched in and out if they fail.
It’s very annoying to spend $500 and it breaks within two years with no fix. The Breville types also get way too much pressure and I don’t see anyway to limit it to 9 bars unlike the E61 which have a pressure Valve you can customize to your liking.
Lelit Mara X looks like the best option for the best price. I just didn’t know if I was missing something important.
Also. The consumer models are fine but I use it probably 20+ times a week and it’s really not built for that. You can get good espresso fast but it’s oddly a lot more tricky to get consistently excellent shots and I’m at the point where it’s annoying and I can taste 12 vs 7 bars.
I may try to get a used Linea Mini. Is it worth it?

>>21815878
Is he gay btw? I’m not sure what people think of him but I look like him but with nice teeth instead of British teeth. I suspect most people don’t like that look

>>21814350
My new 3-cup bialetti moka pot is leaky.
what do? exchange it for another?

>>21818698
Id look into the maintainence costs of a LMLM before pulling the trigger. You're going to hate it.
https://youtu.be/gypZ_EgV3Gk

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>>21818698
im retarded and i thought you meant you had a consumer-grade e61
anyway the pressure thing can be always be fixed in a lot of machines if you are not scared to open up
if you dont care about the time to heat up or the energy wasted, the e61s seem good, but a friend has one where you can control the temp of the boiler and it takes 1 hour for the group head to match it, even 30 mins is in the low end of an e61
>used Linea Mini
i think that's extremely overkill, even used i think it would go for 2.5k
but if you have this kind of money, i would look at
>lelit victoria
>ascaso duo (thermal block but looks like its reliable, ascaso even makes professional machines with thermal blocks)
>some profitec within that price range
>mara x as said before
>silvia pro
>decent if you are a faggot
>lelit bianca
there are many options on the 2k price range and i dont think any of them will be disappointing

Added milk to my cup today. Try not to seethe too hard

>>21818766
>Can’t wrench
lol. The appeal of these to me is you can fix them yourself.

>>21818791
What would you get in my shoes? I don’t have any nostalgia for E61 or any snobbery about it or and attachment to brand. I just want to get a great shot every time. The Mara X looks really good to me but the ECM that’s around $1200 looks good

>>21818891
Fixing them yourself is fine. A $6000+ light commercial machine shouldn't be running you an extra $280 a year. Full stop. Thats about a used gaggia a year. Have fun working on that instead. Spend the other $5700 on your grinder and nice coffee.

>>21818891
>What would you get in my shoes? I don’t have any nostalgia for E61 or any snobbery about it or and attachment to brand.
Breville dual boiler.

>>21818955
I’m thinking ECM brand; Breville died right after warranty with no parts to fix

>>21819168
The dual boiler is a very different machine to your thermoblock. You can probably get one to repair and mod for v e r y cheap. The only ECM I'd consider would be a Puristika(to easily put in a rotary pump) but you want a steam wand so thats a non starter.
https://www.home-barista.com/espresso-machines/breville-dual-boiler-mods-and-maintenance-t61421.html
https://espressoaf.com/manufacturers/breville/rotary.html
https://www.home-barista.com/repairs/breville-dual-boiler-bes920bs-rebuild-t96296.html

If I get like, an Alio bullet, will that enable me to roast to say a Farmer's Market scale? Happy with the quality of my roasting and wanna test it out on some kind of commercial exchange.

>>21819188
Is rotory really better? I thought it was mostly for plumb in

>>21819274
Way quieter, more responsive, last longer. Vibe pumps "click", rotary/gear pumps "whirr".
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qoWZq5EnjLo

>>21818891
>What would you get in my shoes? I don’t have any nostalgia for E61 or any snobbery about it or and attachment to brand.
i like the ascaso ones, their thermalblocks seem really reliable and i like it being more efficient and less wasteful in the long run
if i were skeptical about it, i would go for the lelit victoria: dual boiler, pid to control the boiler temp to the degree, pre infusion, looks like a great machine
for an e61 i find the mara x really cute

https://youtu.be/vdNxMkWvp9Q
thoughts?

>>21819309
i don't know i didn't watch it

>>21819309
nice ai slop bro.

>>21819309

It’s gay and I can taste shit coffee and I’d bet $1000 I could tell 7 bar espresso vs 12 bar in 10 blind tests with 100% accuracy.

I do agree though it would be wise to avoid the marketing and spending ladders and just get a good machine.
Like someone else pointed out the LMLM costs $6k and still needs the cost of a Bambino every few years in maintenance on top of it. That’s just sad.

I don’t like the consumable throwable nightmare of cheap machines but I don’t like that the nice ones are built in the EU and have the mudslime welfare taxes built in to the price. It’s a disgusting world we live in isnt it?

>>21819407
being poor is sad

>>21818617
For reference I have an Astra Gourmet, a CT1, and an old LP I rebuilt. Based on your comments here I would recommend an Astra(either pro or gourmet) for a few reasons. Its more light professional than prosumer and its really built to last. It is also super easy to work on. More or less every single part can be bought at any hardware store in the US. The pump is a Procon pump which is easy to buy online, 2000w heating element which is higher than basically anyone else, 4L boiler. All flare fitting and made in the US if you care about that. I've had mine for well over a decade with no problems. Most places really do not make them like this especially these days. They are also pretty easy to find used.
>>21818753
Are you sure put together and tightened properly and you are using it correctly? If so send it back for a replacement.
>>21819254
Its a 1 kilo batch size drum roaster. Unless you want to drop a lot more money that's the best you are going to get.

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>>21819478
>Astra pro
Thats an exceptionally ugly machine. What grinder are you pairing with that streitman?

>>21819417
Must be hard, but atleast there are YouTube videos that cater to sour grapes for them

>>21819478
I’ll check it out nice. I think the procon is in all the ECM products with rotary

>>21819491
Well that's the Pro not the Gourmet and personally I like the art deco vibe of the pro but tastes differ obviously. Its in my home office so no one ever sees it anyway.
>What grinder are you pairing with that streitman
I have the CT1 on the buffet in my dining room with an OE Pharos and Craig Lyn HG-1 Prime. I like the manual experience with the CT1

>>21819407
>. It’s a disgusting world we live in isnt it?
Truly

>>21819655
>OE Pharos and Craig Lyn HG-1 Prime
Grim. Weber HG1+CT2 pairing was on my list for years. Then the flair58 killed any interest I had in the ct2 and I realized 83mm cones sucked(or just weren't preferable) for what I was drinking. Live and learn.

How much should I spend on a puck screen for a 54mm portafilter? Does it really cost $10 for this tiny ass screen on Amazon?

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used older europiccola with new gaskets fitted.. worth 350 dollars? note that in my area a modern cafelat is about 500

>>21819713
>Does it really cost $10 for this tiny ass screen on Amazon?
what are you even asking?

>>21819713
Buy a 17-4 stainless one from Sworks.

>>21819688
I'm pretty happy with them. Flair didn't even exist as a company when I bought the CT1. Most of my stuff is older but all still works great and I like them so I haven't felt the need to upgrade or try a lot of new stuff in a while.
>>21819714
Does it work?

>>21819752
>Does it work?
sure

>>21819872
Inspect it well before you buy it but otherwise that a fine price and they are very easy to work on.

>>21819878
thanks anone

>>21819309
i dropped after a minute and a half, its horrible

im quintuple blooming

I drink decaf coffee multiple times a day (and sometimes caffeinated coffee too)

The problem is that it makes me shit a lot. I shit twice every morning without fail. Sometimes a third time later on.

How can I solve this problem? I could just drink water instead but water is much more boring.

>>21820959
paper filtered?

>>21821000
Nah, instant coffee because I'm lazy

>>21821002
ok
well
stop being lazy

>>21821020
You think proper filter coffee will make me shit less? Maybe I should try it

>>21821027
yes it removes a good amount of the coffee oils
i shit less when drinking mostly paper filtered coffee and start to shit more when drinking metal filtered coffee.
i assume it has to do with the coffee oils.
but i could be wrong.

>>21821064
I see. Maybe I should try my Aeropress then since that uses paper filters. Instead of my french press which has a metal filter.

>>21821002
>instant coffee
There's your issue. All the major producers of instant coffee overextract to the point of extracting insoluble 'woody' compounds. About 30% of a roasted coffee bean is soluble, normal brewing extracts up to 22%, but instant coffee production can extract up to 50%. These insoluble compounds are indigestible and are known to cause issues in people. Even metal filtered won't give you the shits the same way instant does.

>>21821100
Interesting. Maybe I should try just filter coffee then with my Aeropress and see what happens

>>21821064
>>21821100
I drink 1 cup of coffee a day and I shit without fail within the next half hour
what's the problem? being regular is good for you. just get a bidet

>>21821186
sorry I meant to say 1 cup of paper filtered pourover coffee

>>21821186
>being regular is good for you.
>I shit twice every morning without fail. Sometimes a third time later on.
this is too much shitting
>just get a bidet
saar

>>21821200
I'm saying paper filtered coffee isn't gonna solve the problem
and I'm white, honestly I still don't know if I have the proper technique, but now it's kinda disgusting to think about just trying to rub the shit off with paper when you can powerwash it clean

Really bad flash floods in Sulawesi. Hope our coffee bros and their farms over there are okay.

>>21821200
>>bidet
>saar
Yeah, because smearing shit between your cheeks is so much more hygienic.

>>21821599
>smearing
shit shouldn't be touching your ass cheeks as it exits your ass.
retard.
if poo is anywhere other than your anus, you fucked up
if said poo takes more than a few wipes, you fucked up.
if you need water to clean up, you fucked up.
you know who has liquid shit that gets everywhere including their ass cheeks and needs water to clean up?
jeets.

>>21821905
not my fault you ain't caked up bruh

>>21821936
>he doesnt spread and then sit
ngmi

I followed James Hoffmans suggestions and it made my coffee taste so much worse
Totally under extracted and sour

>>21821965
ok

>>21821965
You ever try wiping back to front? Lance says it's the next big thing.

>>21821965
which suggestions?
i feel like some of his suggestions has made my coffee much more consistent at least

mmm
midnight coffee...

>>21814350
Is a used Gaggia classic really that much better than a bambino? I don't want to spend 100$ extra on something I have to fix someone else's mistakes on, but if it pulls a better shot then I guess I can do it.

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Good evening ctg
I have experimented with coffeemaxxing for a while now since last year and brewmaxxing
Still having adverse reactions to coffee from time to time (as a 2 decade coffeedrinker maybe was bad before too but worse with age)

Again it comes to my conclusion the toxic bean juice has adverse effects due to

>Coffee contains:
>Histamine-releasing compounds
>Chlorogenic acids
>Certain polyphenols that can trigger histamine release
>Compounds that can affect blood vessels differently than pure caffeine

Causing headaches from time to time, tiredness

Is it time to give up the toxic bean juice in 2026?

Body decaying with age is a bitch, synthetic caffeine won

>>21822616
>>Coffee contains:
>>Histamine-releasing compounds
only low quality beans that might have had mold exposure
also paper filtering reduces histamines in the cup
also decaf has even less
so try finding high quality specialty decaf and then doing a double filter pour over.
also anything aged or fermented has more histamines so cut those out.
also look into DAO supplementation

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the mug is the interface between coffee and lips and is the single most important piece of coffee equipment. This is known.
Surely, /coffeetimegeneral/ would not drink from the same basic white porcelain they make toilets out of.
Poast your mugs

>>21816207
Imagine how much work some japanese autist had to do just to make one scene from a stupid cartoon. This is why they lost WW2

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>>21822757
I drink out of crystal tasting glasses.

>>21822780
what does crystal taste like?

I bought an espresso machine and a grinder, do I really need all these gay little tools?

>>21823087
depends.
do you like playing with your food?

>>21823087
Some gay tools make things easier. Good funnel/dosing cup, tamper, basket(s), bottom papers, wdt should all be mandatory at this point.

Currently sipping:
Daye Bensa Founder's Reserve Sidama Natural
1:3.5 through a Graph stepdown
Bretty good. Super complex and punchy. Stewed strawberries and honeysuckle. Like you slightly overcooked jam. Roasted this up a little darker that I like so I'd have beans for winter cortados. But I'm out of milk :/ Wish I had more greens to see how its like ultralight.
>Daye Bensa is a big name in the Sidama region and they work with lots of smallholder farmers in the area, but this microlot comes directly from the founder's personal farm. Asefa Dukamo manages mountains of coffee, but this one warranted personal attention - only a handful of boxes made the cut and each one is serialized. It brews up crystal clean, surprisingly sweet and bursting with a bouquet of florals. The pinnacle of Ethiopian coffee!

>>21816383
laughing at that straight handle

>>21816383
>B&W
nice
>The Classic
lmfao

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>>21822616
>Still having adverse reactions to coffee from time to time

Palpitations/Migraine from an insufficient quantity of coffee to get the caffeine shakes for you = mold and/or pesticides. Avoid Light & Medium roasts (Dark burns out the acrylamides). Don't buy giga-roaster brands. Don't over-steep the been ratio. Have Benadryl on hand if it persists. If it's the caffeine, then Vitamin B1 supplementation may help (strips it, so does too many carbs, and alcohol).

Also-- look up the seasonal bean harvests by world region, then try to get store brands that list the origin for freshness. Freezing halts the gassing process, so you can just chuck them in if you're paranoid about mold in a humid environment.

>>21822757
I need a beautiful mug for dark roasts. Where do you go for fine ceramics?

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>>21822757

Ok I bought a lil metal milk frothing pitcher thing. It came with a metal stick/spoon thing, what's that for?

>>21822486
If all you make a milk drinks it doesn't matter that much but a gaggia can take you further and last longer in regards to mods and repairability.
>>21823560
I like craft fairs/farmers markets. You probably have a studio near you that has events and sales. You can often get stuff from those for cheap. Sometimes the same thing from college ceramic students. Lots of ceramicists on etsy but they are overpriced imo and then you have sites like loveramics.
>>21823678
pic?

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>>21823717
I searched google but all I got was sarcastic comments saying it was or cocaine, which I don't even understand.
I looked at the Amazon page again and apparently it's for "art".

>>21823764
Yeah I figured it was just some random bullshit they added in.

why do recipes never draw down fast enough in my v60. I swear I don't go coarser, I use the same temps, anything like agitation or swirling I have tried being more or less conservative, but shit always goes slower. if I go coarse enough that the recipe fits it doesn't taste good. is it because ethiopians produce too many fines for my grinder? am I fucking up the bloom? what the hell mang

>>21823850
Could be lots of things but it really doesn't matter as long as it tastes good. Stop trying to learn recipes and just focus on troubleshooting the cup if its bad.

>>21821965
That's how he likes it.

>>21822757
I only drink out of a thermos. It keeps my coffee at peak drinking temperature.

>>21823869
>doesn't matter as long as it tastes good
yeah, if I got consistently great results I wouldn't care. I don't

>>21823850
>>21823977
What grinder?
What beans?
What water?

>>21823979
fellow ode, light ethiopean natural, just some brita'd water cause this place is fairly hard, no real recipe. fwiw I know I like the coffee and the bean cause I get good results with aeropress consistently. and I've had a few filtered ones I love, but I can't replicate.

>>21824019
*fellow ode v2

>>21823162
I mean I bought a tamper because the one that came with the machine was some plastic piece of crap. I don't know about the rest of the stuff though

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>>21823850
>is it because ethiopians produce too many fines for my grinder
for any grinder, ethiopian coffees are notorious for having a fuck ton of fines and clogging easily
i use the zp6 and i have also an ode v2, the ode always produces more fines (i think also the burrs are misaligned, but thats beyond this)
even with the zp6, which the bed is never muddy even with ethiopians the drawn time is 40 seconds to a minute longer, and if i left at that it tastes like shit
if you are doing a multiple pours recipe, take of a pour, go from 5 to 4 or 4 to 3, it will shorthen the time and extract less
if you use the memedrick recipe then idk ask him

>>21816360
I’ll have you know I actually bought the K6!
….then panicked and canceled the order and bought the 1Zpresso K-ultra because my severe autism was keeping me awake at night thinking “what if?!?”
I got it for 30k jpy though, 2k less than the initial price!

However, now I’m second guessing and wondering if I should have gone for the Kingrinder K7 which looks to be very solidly made and has better seperation than the K6 (and likely K-ultra) and is only 20k yen…

>>21824327
>if I should have gone for the Kingrinder K7
you should have
reviews are pretty good

>>21824327
It's something you'll be using for the next 5+ years, may as well spend a little extra to ensure you have what you truly want. I doubt I or the vast majority of people could tell the difference in the taste between a K6 or K-Ultra, but maybe you can. Either way, I find pride in frugality.

>>21824380
Oh nonono…k-ultra bros…
>>21824386
This was the mindset I had, I agree I doubt I’ll tell a difference in taste. I got FUDed out of the K6 though because I saw people complaining about the disssembly process for deep cleaning and I knew that I would 100% seethe and rage trying to take it apart/reassemble it because I am terrible at small skilled work like that.

Half price bird? Based.

>>21823850
go coarser and increase the extraction with a higher ratio
>>21824641
200 is still too much

>>21824654
$150. Bet you feel foolish now.
https://weberworkshops.com/products/roadrunner

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>>21824670
not particularly

>>21824674
rare

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>>21824677
rare that i dont feel foolish?
kek you got me i guess
now whos drinking coffee? (besides me)

>>21824678
Just drank some. About to drink more.
https://thecaptainscoffee.com/products/honduras-las-botijas-don-abel-natural-organic?variant=42554471120985

>>21824670
>Everything you love about the BIRD
Have that many people actually bought that thing?

what coffee should i get in poland? ideally decaf, preferably somewhat reasonably priced since i'm poor as shit

>>21825326
ask around (local, not online)

>>21825379
i dont talk with other people, online included

>>21824670
This reminded me that the American Press exists and apparently is still around. Didn't think they would have a decade in them.

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>>21825454
you're talking to me

>>21824281
>i use the zp6 and i have also an ode v2, the ode always produces more fines
the ode v2 produces more fines than the zp6? I'm surprised, I thought flats were pretty far ahead on fines.
and ironically I have the exact same setup so I'll try zp6, even though I usually only use it for spro. I think ethiopeans are the tastiest for my palette though, so it's a shame. appreciate the advice anon, I'll try to fuck around with it.

>>21824670
wasn't the primary selling point of the bird than it felt super premium? making a budget feeling weber product is to make nothing at all

Have the Chinese cloned the Aeropress in glass or stainless steel yet?

>>21825724
Aeropress cloned the aeropress in glass, yes. They still insist their plastic one is safe but this is for "the connoisseur"

>>21825720
Its an unbreakable travel bird. Comes with 3 bean cellars that fit inside of it too. Exact opposite of the $200 aeropress premium.

>>21825728
Yes, I know the original plastic Aeropress has been cloned numerous times. I'm asking if the Chinese have cloned the glass version or made a stainless steel version.

>>21816360
>>21816383
what's your settings for filter/pourover and then for espresso?
I use 83~clicks for my pourover

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Will there ever be a good espresso machine like a profitec that's affordable? I want to practice steaming milk a great deal and my cafe owner friends recommended profitecs as the ones to get if you're going to spend money but they're 2.5k, and a bambino/breville seem to either not be consistent or take too long and can't do enough

>>21825724
>>21825742
fuck that, why haven't the chinese cloned the melodrip in glass
I looked into it and my best option was buying like the top half of some meme brewer from their replacement parts shop

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another big question for y'all:
What makes you go to your local roaster/coffee first cafe over others? I'm in the planning phase at the moment. Market seems to be saturated but new ones pop up every year and succeed. It can't just be trends and 'customer service' to the masses, but I feel like I'm missing something, as the specialty coffee shops can be feast or famine

>>21814360
goffee vibes

>>21825761
consistency

the aeropress is already affordable, chinese producers are not situated well to making a premium-light version.
>>21825756
because it's bad. what is the point of a melodrip when there are many automatic coffee machines with showerhead-like dispersion and complex programming?

>>21825775
>the aeropress is already affordable
>>21825775
>what is the point of a melodrip when there are many automatic coffee machines with showerhead-like dispersion and complex programming

>>21825761
I don't often go to cafes but the few times I have is pure tourism. "oh I'm in this city, famous roaster I like has their cafe here, let's see how they do it on home turf" that sort of thing
>>21825778
couple hundred bucks to automate things within a workflow where hand making it literally makes no difference at all seems like it's worth it to me. personally I don't get it, melodrip coffee is mid.

>>21825788
I want you to know it took a lot of restraint for me to not tell you something horrible

>>21825796
appreciate it big guy/gal

So am I supposed to believe that pouring near boiling water into an aeropress, which is undoubtedly sourcing its plastic from China, is NOT leaching PFAS and microplastics into my coffee?

>>21825877
yes.

>>21825877
should have bought one between 2009 and 2014

>>21825683
>I'm surprised, I thought flats were pretty far ahead on fines.
flat producing less fines than conicals is just a rule of thumb, it depends a lot on the burr and carrier
if im not wrong, handgrinders in general produce less fines for the same burr than electric ones
also i grind with the zp6 on a tilt so that helps
still the zp6 has pratically 0 body compared to the ode, this is correlated with having less fines in general, but there are still a lot of fines coming through an ethiopian coffee
since you have one too i will give you my recipe
my normal recipe is
>15g of coffee and 250g out
>my range is usually 4.8-5.3 on the zp6 calibrated at -1
>i use the cafec medium roast papers
>0:00-0:30 50g pour and bloom
>0:30-0:40 50g pour: total 100g
>wait 15 seconds
>0:55-1:05 50g pour: total 150g
>wait 15 seconds
>1:20-1:30 50g pour: total 200g
>wait 15 seconds
>1:45-1:55 50g pour: total 250g
then i wait for it to finish, usually ends at 2:10-2:30, if it arrives to 2:50 i remove the brewer even if theres more to come out, since i know it will taste bad
if i were to do an ethiopian coffee (specially washed, sometimes naturals dont clog as much) i would grind at 5.5 (most of the time its the best grind setting) and instead of 3 50g pours, i do 2 75g pours still waiting 15 seconds
it comes out great and the drawn time is also short
give it a try and see if you like it, i dont think i shared my recipe with anyone (its just a modified 4:6 anyway)

>>21825877
No its absolutely leeching all sorts of estrogen. There's a reason they constantly change plastics. They're on like revision 9 and its only going to be worse now that they have colored versions.

holy fuck its hot

>>21826031
let it cool

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>>21825877
I have a Hario Switch and the small plastic piece that locks the ball in place concerns me every time I brew. Hario's website even has a disclaimer:
>The plastic trigger comes in contact with brewed coffee

All I'm asking for is a stainless steel aeropress that doesn't cost as much as an entry level espresso machine...

I feel kinda bad that lance hedrick has such a wide reach cause his taste in coffee probably suits the palette of like 2% of the coffee world, and that's 2% of the specialty coffee scene. so essentially for almost all of his audience he's leading them to worse brews.

>>21825929
>discover BPAs give you cancer
>reformulate it with BPB instead
>"Our plastic is certified BPA free!"
>discover BPBs give you cancer
>reformulate it with BPC instead
>"Our plastic is certified BPA and BPB free!"
>discover BPCs give you cancer
It's all so tiresome

>18 days of coffee left
Time to see whats for sale. I hope they have some Pepe

>>21826190
it can't concern you that much because you can buy a stainless steel one for like $20

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>>21826379
Went with these two
https://www.brandywinecoffeeroasters.com/products/costa-rica-las-lajas-black-honey-1
https://www.loveluminous.coffee/products/colombia-sidra-bourbon-washed-sakura-co-ferment

It's kinda wild how quickly you get better at coffee roasting. But the discipline to wait seven days for light roasts to degas is something my ADHD ass can't handle. Does the full 7 days really make that much of a difference in terms of taste or can I get a broad strokes version of the roast by like, day 3?

>>21826484
I usually brew a bean fresh off the batch for the intense flavors and rest the rest.

>>21826484
>Does the full 7 days really make that much of a difference in terms of taste or can I get a broad strokes version of the roast by like, day 3?
why dont you taste it and find out? make a batch. wait 4 days, make a batch, wait 3 and taste them together

>>21826490
I get what you're saying but right now I'm trying to zero in on a light roast I REALLY like so I'm more mile wide inch deep with my green coffee selections. Haven't found anything I've fallen in love with yet but I think when I do it won't be African but rather South American

The last bean of this cup is hitting so good.

>>21826501
I manually roast each individual coffee bean in my brews with a miniature blowtorch
>b-but that would take forever!
Good things come to those who wait.

>>21826484
I don't brew my roasts for a month+.

>>21826484
degassing is a complete meme
bloom/preinfuse longer for the same effect as a few days of degassing

>>21826508
Just say you don't know what you're talking about and move on.

>>21826501
Agree. I'm waiting on a new bean.

>>21826509
You clearly don't bloom long enough.

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what's an affordable espresso machine with a great steam wand that won't bankrupt a canuck?

>>21826532
>what's an affordable espresso machine
moka pot

>>21826532
bambino for milk drinks
flair/robot for no milk drinks

>>21826532
People buy bambinos just to steam milk with.

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>>21826401
Huh, I didn't know this existed.

>>21826791
Yeah but wouldn't you rather pay $100 more for blue 316?
https://goodswitch.net/products/pvd-edition-blue-goodswitch-gen-3-preorder

>>21826280
No you don’t understand the only good coffee is 96+ cup graded specialty coffee from hyper limited lots in a Nordic light roast ONLY. Coffee should taste like thin watery tea and acid, everything else is basically Folgers.

>>21826791
Have this, it's awesome. The little metal tink is SO satisfying

>>21826559
>>21826558
really? I heard some suck up the milk back into the system if it's flushed after

>>21826234
no

>>21826234
If they were to do it I would rather it be titanium than SS.
>>21826280
His reach isn't as wide as you think. His audience is basically reddit and they are the type to parrot everything he says and critique other people for not doing it that way while not actually doing it that way themselves. Almost no one is actually doing what lance says.
>>21826484
Especially when starting to roast you should probably cup at least every other day so you can understand whats going on.

>>21826407
>https://www.loveluminous.coffee/products/colombia-sidra-bourbon-washed-sakura-co-ferment
sweet they made cruelty squad into a website

>>21826484
>seven days
um its 21 days actually

>>21826999
no

>>21827077
Might as well make it vacuum double-wall titanium (unalloyed) if we're fantasizing.

>>21827094
bloom nigga, BLOOM

Taiwan pushing into specialty market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp8qsl31z28

>>21827105
retard

>>21816236
I just do french press, so thinking a P0 will suffice, but maybe a P2 just to make it a bit more universal if the need arises

>>21827237
Too late saar…I have purchasing the 1z k-ultra…

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Anyone else ever feel like even with all the expensive gear and coffee that you’re just LARPING and can’t actually taste the difference between a G1 Ethiopian Yirgacheff and Maxwell house?

>>21826854
>No you don’t understand the only good coffee is 96+ cup graded specialty coffee from hyper limited lots in a Nordic light roast ONLY.
this is essentially a statement of fact
>Coffee should taste like thin watery tea and acid, everything else is basically Folgers.
yes I have an issue with that part, his extractions are too low, most people don't find that pleasant.

>>21827254
Not at all.

>>21827254
I dunno. I just got into coffee and I think Im making a better coffee than all my friends that have had fancy coffee machines for years. Im not sure whats up with that?

>>21827254
no

>>21827258
> this is essentially a statement of fact
Gb2plebbit
Every person I’ve ever met irl who unironically thinks this way always looks like the quintessential skinnyfat estrogen filled Redditor.
Real Chads know that proper coffee should have noticeable body and that roast flavors aren’t inherently bad.

>>21827284
You can have plenty of body with light roasts, do you think light roasts magically become watery and thin despite pulling out just as many solubles in just as concentrated an espresso shot? and even a wendelboe coffee has roast flavors, it's just got other complexities going on.

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>>21827201
>didn't bloom

>>21827357
thats not what i said
i just called you a retard because resting has nothing to do with blooming

>>21814381
Too many brown ppl at Tims. Even my parents stopped going

I want to become a producer! man they are doing some interesting stuff these days, but the definitions of what makes something a true natural vs washed vs honey is getting muddled with all the sorts of fermentation and messing around with years and more going on.

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>>21827173
> How Taiwan is becoming a specialty coffee playerーNHK WORLD-JAPAN NEWS

I use a timemore c2 grinder and a melitta ceramic 102 pourover. I use 7g of beans (usually trader joe's JoeTM medium roast coffee) in 350g of water heated to 180F. I don't have a gooseneck. I don't know what blooming is and I don't care either.

>>21827391
Use 21g of beans.

>>21827173
I think it's a genetic thing that only scandinavians can properly handle premium beans. "pushing into" specialty roasts makes about as much sense as indians "pushing into" 100m sprinting

>>21827395
Did you even watch it? Its about cultivation.

>>21827395
Nordic roast is a meme and you only think it tastes good because Reddit told you to.
If Lance reddit man told you retards that the only proper way to serve coffee is actually if it is completely un roasted you would all immediately start brewing with green coffee.

>>21827386
Why would you ever want to be a producer? You’d have to work with brownoids all day.

>>21827401
no I didn't watch it. but also isn't taiwan too low lying for specialty beans? I just assumed roasting cause people in east asia do kinda love that part of the market even if they're second grade at it

>>21827405
correction, I guess it's not that it's too low but too cold. either way, seems like an unrealistic aim, I thought they were already kinda at max capacity

>>21827405
Altitude is a meme, do you think the coffee knows that it is living at higher altitude so it decides to make itself taste better?
Altitude is only important because it helps naturally control the temperature; how when the sun is out and cool at night.

Taiwan is an island, not a shithole desert like Africa, winds from the coast have a cooling effect like how higher altitude coffees are chilled at night. Why do you think Kona coffee is so good despite it growing in low altitude?

>>21827402
I'm the same anon that shat on lance earlier in the thread.
>>21827410
less oxygen and atmosphere also affects growth. not to mention that the island breeze/massenerhebung effect thing is very conditional and I assumed they were already using the limited places that applied. there's a reason hawaii isn't producing 20% of the worlds coffee, I assume taiwan is the same.

>>21827404
you don't want to make your own varietals of your own flavors and experiment, sharing these discoveries and tastes with the world?

>>21827409
Man its like a 4 minute video. Just watch it. They literally address everything you've asked. They already grow coffee and have been for a while. They have a few different regions that are good for growing. Until now it was mostly for domestic consumption. Many of these farms are now focusing on specialty coffee, interesting varietals, and wanting to pivot to international distribution.

>>21827410
>altitude a meme
holy moly anon, please learn about basic biology
>>21827414
I'll have to go back and check, what don't you like about lance and who do you like/rec instead?

>/ctg/ - 4 minute video watching general

>>21827423
>I'll have to go back and check, what don't you like about lance and who do you like/rec instead?
see >>21826280
he's obsessed with 16-17% extraction, he hates body, and most of his advice is aimed at reaching that goal, and I don't think that's helpful for the vast vast majority of people that like light roasts. sure, he caveats and tells you what to do to influence what, but most people are stupid so I think he's a bad ambassador for specialty coffee.

>>21827422
but I don't want to..

>>21827427
fair fair, yeah he also leans utlra-light. I don't follow coffee people, if anyone I follow farms, but the only ones I know into coffee are my freinds/roaster-owners and they're biased in their own ways even if it's only a little bit
Who do you like and any roasters and coffees you rec?

>>21827427
I wonder how many people have been scammed into spending $200 on a ZP6 to make coffee they hate because of Redditor coffee YouTubers kek.

>>21827434
I lean ultra light too, my preferences for preparations are just not the same. I need the sweetness and his extraction just doesn't get much of it imo.
>>21827435
can't go wrong with getting an zp6 no matter what coffee you settle on imo. unless you're frail and don't want to mill your own beans

>>21827440
what's your recipe anon? I use a Switch and a K6, 1:15, very simple stuff on my end as I go into it last year

>>21827444
same ratio, just a jx-pro and an orea, sometimes an aeropress. I'd like a switch but realistically I can't imagine it makes a huge difference from an aeropress.

dutch roasters suck

>>21827254
difference in coffee is so on-the-nose im genuinely astonished you canr

>>21827499
is that true? I was gonna try manhattan coffee roasters

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>>21827254
I can 1000% tell, some days at work I drink from the shitty Folgers premade machine out of boredom and it’s obviously much much worse.
I can tell the difference if I let my pourover brew for 10-15 seconds longer than usual.
What’s wrong with you?

>>21827519
their high end coffees are perhaps good but their low end stuff is overpriced

having a horrific week
but at least the coffee is good
:)

warning, there will be slurping.
slurrrrp

>>21827254
No. I don't have a lot of expensive gear, and I mostly use a switch. My coffee taste fantastic and I can taste each and every single flavor.

When is juicy strawberry coming back.