Peak Ethiopian Crop EditionThread for discussing coffee and coffee related topics.If you're new and confused, start here:https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLzIf you're old and confused, show the youngsters what you've got.Previous: >>21961029
Harrar > Yirgacheffe
>>21976813The best cup I've ever had came out of a cats asshole. It was robust, very nutty, a bit oily, yet smooth.
>>21976860>he fell for the expensive meme
ethiopian beans is the IPA of the coffee space
>>21976870I didn't buy it, that's what's great. Honestly though it was a good cup of joe.
>>21976813PISSOUTMEPEEHOLE
What % of water do you expect to lose in the grinds on your typical pour over?For example, you pour 418g of water on 28g of grinds and get yourself 349g of coffee, losing 69g of water (16.5%)
>>21977021doesn't make sense to calculate relative to the water, it's purely about the coffee mass (and the brew method, I think immersion brews absorb more water). if you change the water:coffee ratio from 1:15 to 1:18 your % will change while the volume of lost water will basically stay the same
Latenite sipping on that anaerobic wush>The result is a fruit bomb with lovely, crisp acidity and a dry, winey finish. It’s got a silky, smooth body, good balance and makes for a surprisingly clean cup despite the intense fermentation. My samples had a strawberry and banana smoothie vibe along with notes of juicy blackberry, lemonade and sugar cane. The finish reminds me of an expensive white wine - dry yet smooth, crisp but not tangy. Compared to our 120 hour Wush Wush from Guji, this one is a little less funky and wild, more refined but just as juicy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwrXt0wCep0
>>21977048Lean in the coffee general holllyyyy
>>21977052I keep that wush up on me. Definite>silky smooth body>strawberry and banana smoothie vibe>crisp finishNo blackberry or lemon at all but its very unrested and I'm also not happy with the roast. Very surprised how good it is though.(hours old reply, captcha fucking up for anyone else?)
>>21976813PISSOUTMYASS
I might need to swap to 500g bags. I'm taking too long to get through 1kg bags. I still have my entire hopper full of beans I bought back in february. I'd kept them in the freezer for a while.
>>21977286you should only buy bags in the size that you can go through in 1-2 weeks
>>21977288Nah it's fine there's not that much of a difference
Do any of you prefer using the Natural (brown) chemex paper filters? And if so, why?My understanding is that with the white filters (more processed) you minimize papery tastes. Is it all the same after you rinse with hot water? Does it become a purely aesthetic thing at that point?
>>21977288Do you store your beans in a special container if they're going to be consumed within the week, or is leaving them in the bag they came in fine?
>>21977335nta, but I am the "swap to 500g bags" guy. 1KG bags I put about 40% of the bean into the hopper with it's lid and the rest go in an airscape until I run out of the hopper.Checked the place I get my coffee from and they don't do 500g bags except preground. The 250g bags are twice as much per kg as the 1kg bags per kg and it's just one organic bag.Maybe I'll try the organic and see how it goes.
>>21977335Leaving them in bags is 100% fine. I leave my 2 lb in bag, and it takes me a month to use it. No reason to keep in freezer unless we're talking 3+ months, and if the bag can't seal back up.
>less than 10g each of a few different coffee beans left over>mix three beans together to use them up>best cup of coffee yet>no idea what the ratio was
>>21977448Doesn't matter. Even if you did it again with the exact same ratio, it wouldn't taste the same. That's just how it works.
coffee time :)(and cake)
Please recommend any coffee that doesn't cause >>21977279
Origami Pinn coming in 2 days. Still don't know if size 1 filters are good enough.
>>21977867Based. I wish Slowpour had cheaper min shipping. I'd be ordering way more often.>Tonights sip: Finca Monteblanco Pink Bourbon>Tonights brewer: Sworks glass bottomless, .3mm hex/.6mm spacing screen, negotiated kalita 155
>>21977796Oatmeal for breakfast. 1/4 cup steel cut oats, 1/4 cup oat bran, 1 tbsp chia seeds, 1 tbsp ground flax seeds, 1 tbsp pumpkin seeds, 2 tsp benefiber, and whatever you want for flavor like blueberries or bananas. It's well over 20g of fiber. Do this every single day for the rest of your life.
>>21977879i do this every dayno piss only snakes
>>21977021Pre-wet the filter. Recently? 2oz on a 12oz pour.
damn this WASHED... Colombia be hitting frfr
>>21977974>Pre-wet the filtershould do this regardless but the filter retains like a flat 3 grams of water for me
Origami Pinn has arrived a day earlier than expected. Small but cute. Some people seem to have gotten cards with pouring instructions, but mine just came in box with jig only.
>>21978522RIP now you don't know how to pour it...
>>21978538I mean, I just wanted the whole package, not a part of it..
>>21976813What do you think of moccamasters
>>21978572Old and gold. Water distribution can be upgraded a bit.
>>21978559I feel you. I'd be seething personally.
>>21976911get that checked out
>>21978584>can be upgradedHow? Didn't realize an aftermarket existed for fucking drip machines.
Is it coffee time yet?
>>21978751lmaooooooooooooooooogot any more?
>>21976911>Sir, the second cup has gaped the tower
>>21977331Pls respond
>>21979490fucking buy some and test it yourself
>>21977331really think you can taste paper through something as strong tasting as coffee?
I LOVE ROBUSTA
Post your ideas for stupid memetic coffee making.My proposals:A pourover setup with a low speed motor to rotate the assembly during pouring, to counter the impact of the coriolis effect.A multi stage grinder that places different grind levels at different positions in the vessel for perfectly even extraction. Finer grind for coffee near the top which will have slightly less extract time.A gooseneck with a built in electric pump to manage pour speed and a laminar flow output.
>>21979776I like mixing vietnamese robusta with arabica, 15-25% robusta is a good amount to give the coffee a nice depth. It's the only way to redeem a bag of third-wave light roasted sour shit arabica.
>>21979784Agreed on all points.
the anon with this thing from other thread are you here?so i got it today, but how do i use it, should i go finer or coarser than my "default" espresso grind?
>>21979783>Finer grind for coffee near the top which will have slightly less extract time.Fines go in the bottom. Coarser grounds up top keeps the kettle from agitating the fuck out of them.>>21979784Grim.>>21979817Coarse. Its a high extraction pattern in an extreme taper. Pressure is going to come from the reduction so you don't want to choke it off. Try starting at like 200 micron gap. You've got the taller dose and a more bimodal grinder though.
>>21979826>Fines go in the bottom. Coarser grounds up top keeps the kettle from agitating the fuck out of them.Fines will clog the paper. Besides, I'm already decreasing the agitation with my anti-coriolis setup and laminar flow.
>>21979831>clog the paperIf you're trying to shove them through the paper with bare kettle agitation. Ray was doing this a decade ago.
>>21979776I love drinking some tasty natural bean espresso then sucking some tasty natural booba chest.
>>21979826>Try starting at like 200 micron gap. You've got the taller dose and a more bimodal grinder though.i feel like i know what you mean but by using totally different wordsand i got that Super Jolly cleaned up(best i can), probably put it back together and install the new burrs this weekend.now for seasoning flats, should i just like buy a kilo of Lavazza or something and run it through on a "medium" grind or something else?think i might finish the wush wush tonight.probably have that in a couple hours.:)
>>21979855I've got a tighter particle spread and a lower amount of coffee I can fit in my basket. Means I'd need to go a bit finer than you would compared to blendy 64mm flats/big 83 cone. You can squeeze more coffee AND more fines in your basket so you've immediately got a bit more resistance for that pump to run against.>run it through on a "medium" grind or something elseMoka fine. Espresso fine will just put more stress on the motor.
>>21979868ok sounds good, thanks :)(what does blendy mean?)
>>21979884traditional espresso, high texture/body, lower clarity. Other side of the spectrum from a "cleaner" filter burr(like SSP 64 Brew/Multipurpose). That extra bit of fines gives you that mouthfeel, "blends" your flavors together (and masks some roastiness) while a more filter focused burr separates and highlights individual flavors(good or bad).
>>21979904right right, i remember now.
Sir, another coffee has hit the tastebuds.
>>21980366Wife
>>21979826>Try starting at like 200 micron gapi did 120 and it choked(granted it was a fairly light roast)ill do 200 latergood callbut how did you know? just intuition?
midnight moka:)
>>21977021Around twice the mass of the dry grounds, so for 15g beans/250g water I expect 220g coffee when I’m doneI bought some new beans, both pretty good but nothing really remarkable
>>21981163Forgot pic
>>21980961Lets just say I know what I'm talking about and move on.
>>21981306/sp/+/ctg/ crossover episode
I wanna start drinking for my source of caffeine ever since finding out energy drinks are apparently fucking horrendous for enamel, but I'm worried about teeth staining. Is this a legitimate concern? Or am I just being retarded?
>>21981822yeah it's a legit concern. if you just want caffeine, get pills, it's easily the cheapest way
>>21981822you are retarded for not knowing energy drinks are bad for your teethif you are worried about teeth staining, drinking milk drinks helps(lattes and such) and so does using a straw to drink as to reduce the contact with your teeth, or you can simply drink(and swish) water between sips of coffee or just at the endas well as brushing your teeth after drinking coffee(not literally right away but like water right away then 30 mins later brush with teeth whitening toothpaste and then finish with mouth wash)coffee is naturally a tannin so yeah its going to stain your teeth but if you do as i instructed above it will be greatly reduced and if you are going to the dentist twice a year and getting teeth whitening done while you are there then it should be no problemtons of tannin in black tea too which i one of the reasons brits have a bad reputation with having fucked up teeth, 1: teeth are naturally not perfectly white, this is an american obsession, 2: brits didnt give a fuck about having their teeth be stained from tea drinking because they valued the tea more than how their teeth looked, 3: they didnt get it whitened because it would just get stained again shortly so fuck it whatever.
>>21981836>swish) water between sips of coffeeThis is the most effective out of all the methods you listed.
>>21981848yeh but its annoying and intrusive to your life.taking a sip/swish between every sip gets boring fast and to actually add good oral care to your life requires that thing to be the least annoying/intrusive thing possible.making the other mentioned methods actually more effective long term because you can keep it up.(you have to treat the patient as if they are the laziest person in the world, assuming they are a high achiever or sum such will lead to failure.)
>>21976813How many cups are we drinking a day, anons?
I want to dry out my spent french press grounds some before i dump/scrape them into the City's compost bin. What is the best method for that? I make 3-4 pots a day so i have to take the grounds out of the pot within 4 hours. Is there anything classier than just dumping it into a bucket outside to dry on the porch?Kind of wondering if I should just go back to pour over until my coffee consumption goes down
>>219818741 every week day
>>21981851Place a cup of water next to your cup of coffee. It's not inconvenient and it's a nice palate-cleanser inbetween sips of coffee. Certain bottled waters taste like vomit with coffee, however. So I can see how that might affect one's enjoyment.
i posted on the tea thread too but i'm a chemist going into coffee processing researchwhat should i knowlike why wasn't something like this:https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2761235A1/ena bigger thingmy method at home right now is1. boil water to 1952. wet brown melitta filter in kalita wave because i can't find the kalita filters anywhere here anymore3. fill carafe with 140 g ice4. load kalita with 30 g fine ground coffee, rwandan, ethiopian, or burundian5. wet grounds and wait a couple of minutes6. pour over until 500 mL in carafe
>>21982291>chemist using fahrenheitgrim
>>21981874whats a cup?
>>21982291just be honest with meare you indian?
Do you guys own coffee dosing trays? How about atomizer sprays so your coffee grinds don't stick to the grinder?I'm curious about little items that you own that are not essential to brewing a nice cuppa, but that you like and/or find useful anyway.
>>21982342yesyesboth are essential to me and my workflow
>>21982342Bruh you’re never going to brew a cup of nice coffee. It’s too hard, if you can figure out how then you’ll be fucking rich. I often find myself dreaming in blueprints for the perfect coffee machine. But they’re always complete failures. You just can’t do it, the coffee barista is one of earths most employable professions for a reason. It’s a high demand job. Lots of people agree coffee making machines suck fuckin ass and are made by faggot retards. No amount of gadgets or gizmos is going to improve the core philosophy behind a clean brew. Plus you’ll hurt your hand grinding your own beans, if you must make your own highly recommend just buying pre grinded from the bulk section.
>>21982368skill issue
>>21979884seasoning the burrs right now :)
>>21982342i just have a little plastic bowl for dosing, the kind youd use for dipand i have a little manual spray bottle i got from a home goods store other than those i use a drip assist a lot, as well as the little glass wand that came with iti guess my pretty floral glass mug counts (:
it's good
yo can any of you nerds identify this scale plsthx in advance
>>21983845hexagon
>>21983845Brewista Ratio
It is a special kind of hell to buy beans you've been told are good (albeit suspiciously cheap) and then fail to make good coffee with them. Freshly roasted, too.I'm gonna keep varying my grind size to see if I can dial them in. So far it's either tasted like not much (underextracted) or just too bitter.
>>21984350>underextractedYou doing meme pour over or something? Stop, brew your coffee properly. Pour overs always under extract. You need to let it steep for 5 minutes or put it through high pressure.
normally i dont prefer the kenyan but still sometimes but some. today i felt like having a cup of kenyan even though i have others too and it was pretty good>>21984350might be a stupid question but did you remember to rest them if they're freshly roasted
>>21984352Yes it's been pourover. I'll try French Press.>>21984356No, I have not rested them. I was under the impression that it's fine to brew with freshly roasted beans, was I wrong? How long should I wait?I bought 500g so I suppose I can keep experimenting with half of that and save the rest to see the difference myself
>>21984366resting time also depends on the beans, but nice ones for pour over probably like a week, i recently bought some that was roasted the day before and was really dissapointed when i made a cup that day. about a week later i really enojyed them
>>21984352>Pour overs always under extractskill issue, no cap
how many ml are in an espresso shot?
>>21984730like 6 or 7
>>21984740try again
>>2198473060-70
>>21984779if it's 60 then I guess I drank 2 shots today
>>21984730About that many.
>>21984797are you souping on my board anon?
>>21984813Like 6x the pressure of an orb.
>>21977279('-')7
Just ordered a vintage Banned By Bialetti mukka pot in classic cow print for $60What am i in for
>>21984958Shitty coffee.
All this plus got a $20 Origami off facebook marketplace. Pretty good starter set for under $30.
>>21984350Hi I am back.I dialed the grinder 5 clicks coarser and that fixed my pour over. Crazy what a difference such a small change makes. I had tried 45 clicks (bitter-maxxed) and 55 clicks (tastes like fuckall desu) and 50 was right on the money
>>21984967wtf's up with the scale and grinder, some kind of coupon?
>>21977335I use one of these, faster to scoop out of than bags
>>21983744made my first brew with itit does indeed make coffee now.i didnt clean the burrs after seasoning it so im sure im tasting some residual stale commodity grade slop i used. (used compressed air to blow it out as best i could but i didnt want to re-zero it so i didnt go further than that.)but overall its good enough.ground a bit too coarse i suspectalso you can tell the motor is very old and very very tired.but im closer to an astronaut than i am to an electrician so refurbing that is out of the question.all in all im relatively happy with what i have rn :)
>>21985574also im drinking a medium roast low alt south american blend so you get what you getgranted my hg1 does give more body and a heavier mouthfeelbut thats to be expected.
Where are the decent coffee scales with physical buttons and rechargeable batteries? I've found a couple (Coffee Gator, Greater Goods) that look good but sadly they use AAA's.
>>21985652Oh well whatever. Got the Greater Goods one. I'm a slut for physical buttons
Besides I really didn't care for "smart" features, bluetooth or anything like that. I just do pour overs and want a manual timer, simple
>>21976813Ayo coffee brothers, my partner and I just bought some arábica coffee beans for my partner's brother, imported from Brasil and slightly toasted, ready to be grounded and filtered in a coffee machine. I really wish I could try it myself but I don't have a coffee machine and my partner lives in another country, so trying it firsthand from his brother will be difficult lol.What are some good coffee varieties for a newbie that is a simpleton and drinks coffee with milk, or almond milk?
>>21985574>>21985581just made a moka with itnow, ill be straight up, the whole "flats have more clarity" thing always kinda felt bullshit to me, because i never experienced it.but, even with stock super jolly 64mm flats, i get it.this moka, same beans, same ratio, same grind size(i made sure to grind a few grams in each grinder and match the particle size for a fair test)it is more clear and the notes a little sharper.now im a big cone man all day, but i think im starting to get it.
>>21985690You could make cold brew with a basic grinder.
>>21985899Or buying supermarket pre-ground medium roast. Cold brew is very forgivable on everything but overly dark/burnt coffee.
>>21985881>"flats have more clarity" thing always kinda felt bullshit to me, because i never experienced it.I think I compared my Kinu to 80LS initially saying it was like looking through a cleaner window or getting a better prescription for your glasses. Its the same view, but its like youre getting way more accurate colors and less blur.
I love vietnamese coffee and while I am currently just mixing espresso shots with sweet condensed milk, I want to start making it at home in the traditional way. For anons with phin coffee filter experience, are there any brands or setups you recommend?
>>21985908>>2198588180LS to Kinu rather, you know what I'm intending to say.
>>21983751I use this stuff when I make coffee cake
>>21985909I'd start with ordering a starter bundle from NguyenCoffeeSupply.
>>21985910no i think your first was more accurate, as the kinu is conical and the 80LS is flat same as i have only had conicals and have just tried flat.its the same journey.(you do mean the Mahlkonig E80S right, or am i mistaken?)
>>21985921>Mahlkonig E80SSame geometry but yeah. I think E80S might come with the non cast lab sweet burrs. Like $200 usd cheaper.https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/mahlkonig/701619-mahlk-sphttps://prima-coffee.com/parts/mahlkonig/105780-mahlk-sp
>>21985094glad youre enjoying the goff, newfriend>>21985690>What are some good coffee varieties for a newbie that is a simpleton and drinks coffee with milk, or almond milk?literally anything that catches your eyeyoure just trying to figure out what you like, so try anythingor are you asking for easy methods of brewing? wheres stovetopanon
>>21985914that's a good idea. i like the versatility. I'll put it in yogurt sometimes.
>>21986331I literally am so poor/average any type of coffee tastes good for me, I even can drink watered down coffee that comes in tea sacks (argentina inflation moment), but I like strong tasting coffees. I sometimes like adding some cacao powder in my coffee cups and some milk for an extra kick, or even a little drop of vanilla essence.Please don't murder me cobbeebros.
>>21986569I can't speak for anyone else here, but I don't think coffee need be strict and ritualized. To me, there are two things important to consuming coffee:1. Respect for the producer, the supply chain, the roaster, and ultimately the enormous amount of work that goes into bringing us coffee;2. Enjoying the coffee--whatever that means to you. So you'll get no castigation from me for putting vanilla or what-have-you into your cuppa. Anyway, like I said, just try whatever catches your eye. The lovely thing about being a neophyte is that there's a whole world to discover.
>>21986909you're not the real mokafra
is anyone else hearing recently that robusta is bad?isn't that all of vietnamese coffee? i like those. they taste like hot chocolate
>>21987029Kopi o siew dai is good too. But they roast the robusta beans with sugar and butter, which is cheating.
>>21987047yeah that's deep frying that's not coffee roasting
>>21987029Robusta has always been bad. Thats why its cheap.
>>21987029I like robusta mixed with arabica, all good espresso should be such.
>>21987075why the cong charging me so much for their dookie coffee then
>>21987081Kongs do as kongs do.
>>21984366>I have not rested them.Give it two weeks, or fast pour a comically higher bean ratio at a finer grind.
>>21985690>drinks coffee with milk, or almond milkIf you like fruit notes, East Africa and South America. If you like earthy/herbal body, Southeast Asia. I'd go with the latter for Almond Milk.
>>21987097i just had the best cappucino today made with ethiopian beansfelt like a waste, not to humble bragto be double's abbacus, crop quality is going to go down with climate change. do people really care? just add milk and sugar.
>>21986909Thank you anon! You're so kind. I feel a bit less bad that I have a very non-refinated palate in regards to coffee, I just love having a nice cup in the morning or early afternoon. I do like drinking one coffee-alternative called malta, it tastes very rich and soft and tasty and has no caffeine, so I can drink as much as I want. Normal caffeine makes me sleepy due to my ADHD.
>>21987095I don't get it, the most intense flavorful coffee I've ever had is when the beans were 1-2 days old. Waiting a couple of weeks the coffee just starts tasting like anything else I can buy. I think resting might literally be cope dished out by coffee companies.
good robusta is good :)
Just ground some gesha on two clicks (4.1) coarser than I usually do on my ode 2. Gave a pretty nice cup.Still almost 5 minutes with the V60 whereas some of my other beans only takes about 3:30 using a finer grind setting.Should I go even coarser for the gesha or is brewing time a bad metric to focus on?
>>21987203>cope dished out by coffee companiesLight roast coffee expels CO2 and other gasses exponentially slower than dark roasts. Roast profiles also affect the rate of offgassing. Resting keeps your beans brewing consistently. Buy better coffee.https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jafc.7b03310
>>21987250I buy green beans and roast them myself. It already tastes better than anything else I've bought from a store or coffee roaster. What if the off gassing is just making the coffee stale?
>>21987260Its not. Been roasting nearly a decade now. And not in a fucking skillet.
>>21987271I prefer it fresh I guess. Some of the beans I've gotten have had wonderful warm roasty flavors. Almost like some sort of cake or baked goods. Something they've all had in common is that they have a specific 'fresh roasted smell' when grinding. I also enjoy the variety of roasting the same beans at different levels and experimenting with mixing them together.
>>21986974never claimed to be but i appreciate that guy...whose name i cant rightly recall at this moment, remind me if you'd care to>>21987029robusta has always had a bad reputation but specialty producers are showing a lot of interest in these days, its cool>>21987102koohee is meant to be enjoyed (:
cofe time :)
Just moved to the US and I live in the middle of nowhere so finding local stuff is a bit of a struggle, is drinktrade any good or do you recommend something different? Also how is barista oat milk so absurdly expensive here omg
>>21987501why do you need "barista oat". It's just regular oat with added vegetable oil. You don't need it.
>>21987511Regular milk alternatives are way too watery, I find the barista kinds to be thicker and nicer to mix with.
>>21987514you should check each product and see which one has the most percentage of oat. in my area some are 8% with oil, some are 9%, but there's one that's 14% with no oil.
>>21987511>why do you need "barista oat"because its a pain in the ass to make latte art or just good foam with regularit just doesnt bind properly.listen, if you dont know what you are talking about just say so and move on.
>>21987543why are you so mean
>>21987543Oh ffs idiot, I meant why do you need as in "why would you waste money on it" when it's just regular oat milk with vegetable oil.Either get regular and skip the faggy latte art, or get high percentage oat milk and add your own sunflower oil to it when you use it.
>>21987549because you deserve it >>21987550>idiotincredibly ironic.> I meant why do you need as in "why would you waste money on it"its not a waste, it has a purpose and that anon wants it for that purpose.how could it possibly be a waste for them?>but its just x + y?!?!?!?ok... and?like really what do YOU think you are saying with your post.do you think that changes anything?do you think you can just buy regular oat milk and regular vegetable oil and add them together and get barista oat milk exactly as you buy it from the store?because if you do think that then you are actually retarded.and if you dont think that and are simply reducing what the product is will make that anon not buy it then not only are you retarded but stupid too.oh look you literally said that on the next line.i started typing without looking at the second sentence because the first was so completely braindead i had to reply to it right away calling out how low iq you are and then you actually go ahead and confirm you are a stupid bitch.>just dont like the things you like, instead like the things i like, duh!holy shit you are dumb.if this is rage bait and for your sake i hope it is, good job.
>>21987560>reddit spacing
>>21987284>roasty flavorsThis says alot about the roast level your going for and why your coffee is peaking 48 hours after rest. My home roasts(and the roasters I buy from) don't have ANY roasty flavor. All origin.> same beans at different levelsSo the consistency of your roasts really doesn't matter in the slightest to you.
Convince me to switch from Monster to coffee.
>>21987607coffee tastes better
>>21987607no ass cancer before 35
>>21987607Your aura points will increase.
>>21987609>>21987611>>21987617What cobbee bean should i start with...
>>21987602When I get a new bag of beans I'll try it as a light/medium/dark and then decide which suits the coffee more. Sometimes they all taste good, other times one will stand out.For instance I recently got some from Timoor, and they tasted extremely boring as a dark roast, but really complex and interesting as a light roast. My roasts are not a product, I don't have to always make them consistent. I enjoy the variety. But if I find a roast level I enjoy a lot, it's not that hard to recreate something very similar.
>>21987652buy something fancy looking from your local store or coffee shopIt'll probably be nice enough to see if you like it
Is it just me or does decaf tend to have a far slower drawdown than normal coffee? It always seems to take much longer even when I use the same grind and ratio, and my experience has been consistent across multiple roasters over several years.
>>21987652how will you be brewing this bean? do you have your own grinder and coffee making apparatus? if you have a place near you that roasts their beans in house, go there and buy a bag. if you dont have a grinder you can ask if theyll grind it for you.
>>21988305Decaf tends to be more brittle due to the decaffeination process. It will produce more fines at the same grind setting than an equivalent caffeinated bean.
Got a wilfa uniform Evo for 160e and then spent 600e on all kind of coffee crap... Cafelat robot, Hario switch and stuff. At least grinder was on good discount. Giant difference in coffee quality with better grinder. Finally get the coffee nerds. Moved from 70e wilfa conical grinder to this 64mm flat burrs uniform evo. Drip machine started being very inconsistent, with bad grinder just couldn't taste it before. Hario switch makes good tasting every time.
>>21988619Now just toss good burrs in it and you're golden.
>>21988627Thought about it but can it fit different burrs? It has silly micro adjustment setting in burrs with screw holes. I don't think 3rd party burrs would fit those at least
>>21988631Looks like you should have enough room to mount any 3 hole 64mm set as long as the outer diameter isn't too big like older SSPs.
how stupid would it be to buy the Fellow espresso machine
>>21988701extremely
>>21988636Okay thanks. Gotta check for nicer burrs then
>>21988735Lebrews are cheap(er) if you're sick of spending.https://lebrewtech.com/products/lebrew-64mm
>>21988740Looks good, thanks. Hadn't heard of lebrew before so thought custom burrs would be much more expensive
I've started pouring from a higher height to cause more agitation
>>21989054I've stopped using a gooseneck all together at this point.
>>21989054>>21989066Pour overs are such a meme. >put coffee grinds and hot water into French press>who gives a fuck what kind of kettle poured the water?>stir it up >let it steep and extract for 5 minutes>no worries about underextraction or channeling or blooming or pre-wetting or what pattern you swirl your pour with or how long it takes to pour>like the full body with oils? press and pour>don't like the sediment? dump it out all at once through a paper filter cone
>>21989224It becomes a non meme when you realize it simply tastes better and is more fun to make
>>21989232Under-extracted coffee tastes like shit though
>>21976813I'm battling my McDonald's coffee addiction so hard right nowI quite coffee for 14 days...
>>21989475Single digit IQ necessary to like mcshit """coffee""".
>>21989486I know I'm a dumbass but at least I have a lot of savings and enjoy something as simple as a $1.55 coffeeseethe
>>21989531The (very nice) anaerobic Wush Wush I've been roasting comes out to just over 3 cents per gram. 55c shots all day long.
>>21989545sounds comfyI drank all the Cama nutty blend from Taiwan and I refuse to buy coffee from superstore, Walmart, etc. Everything they carry is burned kaka that makes my asshole and rectum feel like they have shards of glass in itI'd rather just but McDonald's coffee or quite altogether until my next trip to Asia where every blend is a good one (minus the vending machine coffees, those can hurt my asshole)t. Crohn's faggot
really enjoying this coffee right now
>>21989838what kind are you drinking
Can someone recommend me a convenient standalone milk frother? I used to use a plastic french press for it in the past and wasnt bad, but if for 20 extra bucks I can get an automatic one that doesnt even require me to pump id consider itId be willing to spend up t 60 bucks or so
>>21989881Dreo Baristamaker Air. I've got the more expensive one. Its bretty great. I assume the cheaper one is just as good.https://www.dreo.com/products/baristamaker-milk-frother-air
Opinions on the Fellow Prismo thing for the aeropress? I don't have access to a moka pot/espresso machine and won't for at least a year, kinda curious to try it out since I really love milk based drinks
>>21989942I'm also curious but>I don't have access to a moka potDo you not have $20?
>>21989956Fair, I only have an induction burner at the moment and>Induction moka pots are a bit more pricey>It sounds like it'll be a massive pain in the ass to control temperature and speed of brewing with it>Using a plate heat diffuser would probably work but that's another gadget and costSo idk just a tiny thing for $25 seems reasonable to avoid that, but maybe brewing moka on induction isn't as bad as I think It'll be
>>21989942Get the aero press branded one, its nicerI love mine but I don't use it for Expresso like brews, it's just more convenient than inverted for the same result since it prevents any drippingThey need changing every couple of years cause the valve gets loose overtime
>>21989929Thanks! Will grab this one
>>21989959Fair. I have no clue how moka is on induction, ruins the simplicity if you need another stupid tool/diffuser
Back at home I'd use the cheapest preground espresso coffee at the supermarket for cold brew because it all kinda tasted the same + mixed with milk it was always delicious. How is this? The instructions confuse me a bit about it not being instant coffee but every other cannister says the same about just mixing with water.Picking this one purely out of value.
Newfag to espresso here with a bambino. What is generally the first thing to "get right" when dialing in? I'm going off the assumption the first thing should be getting the right grind size by keeping the same dose and adjusting the grind until you don't have channeling and are in the right extraction time range. When does it become a matter of changing the dose?
>>21990061That's it really.Dose is based on the size of your basket, it's always a ratio, shouldn't need changing.
>>21990061Hopefully you haven't kneecapped yourself with a shitty grinder.https://espressoaf.com/guides/beginner.html
>>21989861Ethiopian Sidamo. Roasted "light" at Agtron 75, but I'd consider it more of a light-medium. Brewed through a Switch.
>>21988636don't you get dookie coffee grounds stuck around where the bolts go in?
>>21988305Brew lower temps to counter the ashyness.
>>21989224I get the best consistency from French Press as well, only pour over now for speed or economizing on beans.
>>21989224look up a craig machine. not the stephen lynch album.it's a good basis for separation scienceextraction with multiple volumes is higher yield than big extraction with one big volume.
>>21990117Are you talking about this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countercurrent_distribution
>>21990133yes!
gonna go to bed but i didn't mean to sound like a douche pointing at the craig machine because that's overly complicated versus what i wanted to demonstrateadding a large volume at once, like in an aeropress, will extract less than multiple volumes added separately, like in a pourover.like you add 100 mL, assume, not coffee, 50% of stuff is extracted. add another 100 mL, another 50% of whatever's leftover is extracted.versus add 200 mL and 50% extracted. you can extrapolate the above case with multiple additions and reach some limit.it's a little counterintuitive. i remember engineers in class having a problem with that
>>21990145go to sleep nigga
>>21990149:( can't drank too much coffee
>>21990156In the next thread, we should help each other quit coffee.
>>21977907Lmao
>>21989277skill issue>>21990145makes sense to me, thanks for explaining it
It's over for me, i'm looking to get a super automatic...Is the Jura E4 the best bang for buck under 1000€?
>>21990145I feel like you're completely ignoring the time variable. If the two pour over extractions take 30 seconds each vs the one aeropress extraction that takes 5 minutes. Longer time in contact with water will extract more that less time in contact with water.
>>21990335>Jura E4over-rated. Get a eletta explore or magnifa evo instead.
>>21990069Thanks. >>21990074I got a K6 to start. I might get an electric grinder in the future.
>>21990426I mostly drink medium specialty coffee, won't the Jura's 16g pucks be better for that? The 3d preinfusion seems interesting too. I don't give a fuck about milk and would rather have something that does has no milk functions. On the cheaper side of things what about the melitta purista? I have an ex barista friend that got a kottea espressima oslo and is satisfied with it, but the grinder seems iffy to me.
>>21990444The Dinamica & Magnifica (plus models) can do 15g on their highest normal intensity & up to 18g on the doppio setting.desu either of those or the jura would likely be perfectly fine for your needs.
drank latte macchiato after breakfastcortisol through the roofpissing like a horsegonna drink latte macchiato after dinner, maybe I will add some ice cream or condensed milk to it
>>21990167inam relapsing after 2 weeks of being off Joe
>>21989531I guess that's based, but if you have a lot of savings you should get some taste and find real enjoyment.
>>21990584money can't buy good tastealso I would be pissed off if I bought $30 coffee and it burned my assholeI need to sample more coffee in Asia. My asshole and taste buds dont get burnt there
>>21976813Drinking some 3 month old TJ coffee. Sometimes, you've gotta drink shit to reset your baseline
how come sometimes my bloom doesnt make it get real big and bloomy? sometimes it puffs up and sometimes it doesnt. just seems random
>>21990717less gas in the beans
>>21990736is that bad?
>>21990741dependstoo much gas is badwhich is why we rest beans for at least a week and depending on the bean/roast multiple weeksbut if you rest a bean too long then there is "not enough gas left in it after grinding meaning its not going to foam up as much during brewingit also means it could be about to be or is stalewhich reduces the taste.unless its stale it shouldn't really be a problembut in some recipes not having enough gas can be a problem as the level of gas in the beans changes the dynamics of the brewalso in this case by gas i mean CO2
>>21990663I've never had asshole problems from coffee. I'm not sure what you guys drink. Are you in the US?
>>21990766canadaonly burnt stuff here except donalds
The last time I had "asshole problems" it turned out that I had to properly clean the water tank. There wasn't anything obvious but clearly some of the water had been in there too long or my water jug filter needed to be cleaned. Did that and it was fine again.
>>21990852You should never drink the hot water from your tap.
hot water sisters.... I feel rotten
>>21991004
>>21990975it's okay for me since i live in a developed country
>>21991027you know what I wanna lose next? (;
>>21991032Doesn't matter what country you live in, hot water constantly sitting in at heating tank 24/7 is a breeding ground for all kinds of nasty shit. It's for washing only, not drinking.
>>21991063sorry you have bad water. I've never experienced any issues. and if that were actually true then people would be getting eye infections from taking showers.
>>21991063daddy don't scare me!!!t. >>21991072
>>21991078why would i be scared of something i consume daily without any health effects? idk what country (or blue state) you live in, but we dont have problems with tap water where i live.
>>21991100don't take me serious brudi, I'm just here to be extra silly and say dumb shit after an extra gay work week.
Is Deathwish Coffee good cuppa?
>>21991201Not at all.
Bambino or Bambino plus?
>>21991309Plus can't do blooming shots. Nonplus comes with a shittier aluminum portafilter. Plus has easy froth wand, nonplus has a normal wand but its fully articulating. Survey says nonplus.
>>21990975I think you're misunderstanding what I meant by "clean the water tank". I meant the tank on my coffee machine not my hot water tank. So no, I don't drink from the hot water tap. If I want boiling water I fill the kettle with cold water and boil it. For my coffee machine I fill my filter jug with cold water and it stays in the fridge. Then add it later to my coffee machine tank.
>>21991201No. Incidentally, I notice they removed their "World's Strongest Coffee" tagline. Did they get sued or something?
Our toddler had messed with the grind settings on our ode grinder and my gf started grinding with the setting way too coarse and adjusted it down while grindingnot a bad coffee but could have been much better :(
chat BooKoo Themis Ultra or BooKoo Themis Mini (for espresso)?
>>21992063i got the mini
withdrawals because no coffee today, I will have an espresso shot after dinner
How do you have withdrawals from coffee? Get a grip.
>>21992341Larping retards.
Everyone in this thread should have a cheap bottle of caffeine pills, in case the worst happens
>>21992393The worst has already happened. India and Africa were incorporated into human civilization and Israel was created. Caffeine pills for what though? You can life without caffeine. You can't enjoy the taste of coffee without drinking coffee though.
Can we preorder a Mastrena 3?
>>21992465>we
the jarc hittin boys
moka time :)
>>21992405>can't enjoy the taste of coffee without drinking coffee thoughWatch me.
>My dad started putting a matchhead-size amount of baking soda in his coffee grounds to counteract the acidity when brewing and it's the best coffee I've ever hadThoughts on this tweet
>>21992846Sounds good, I was putting alylyne water in my kurieg until one day it killed it.
>>21992846i do this whenever i add tomato to foodmakes it 10x better.
>>21992846>>21992879acidity tastes good, in balanceif you don't have a dino nuggets type palate most dishes benefit from being finished with extra lemon juice or vinegar
>>21992889i like to control how much and what kind of acid my food hasmaking a tomato based sauce for pasta is going to be acidic in a bad way and you need a way of reducing that or its going to suck to eat regardless of how it tastes.you can add a specific amount and type of acid in at the end but making it basic at the outset is the way to go
>>21992895to add its no different than crafting water for coffeeyou want to start and zero and build to where you want to be to get the most out of the ingredients
>>21990425i guess the pour over tool matters for that. hario will flow faster. something with just a few holes on the bottom, equilibrium will be reached as it drains
>>21992895I have to believe you're using cheap tomatoes, fucking something up, or you're fucked up yourself. I've never made a tomato sauce that was so unpleasantly acidic it needed alkalinity, and no classic italian or autistic scientific recipes do that, they just add some fat at most>>21992902it's completely different, their acidity is partially why tomatoes are a universally beloved ingredient. you can neutralize lemon juice with baking soda to "start from zero" too but that's retarded
>>21993003im using paste from a jar or crushed or diced from a can>inb4 autistic screeching
>>21993030you're in the autistic screching threaddiced tomatoes tend to be complete shit, packed in tomato juice and citric acid which is causing your problem. you can actually start from zero with whole peeled tomatoes, adds maybe 30 extra seconds
>>21993038nah im goodwhat i buy tastes the same and costs the same year roundreal tomatoes dont>which is causing your problemdoesnt account for tomato paste
>>21993052you cook the tomato paste outactually you're right, I don't get anything out of talking someone resistant into making better food
>>21993055wat you mean cook it outtomatoes don't evaporate
>>21993055>you cook the tomato paste outhuh?where does it go?>resistant into making better foodi just told you i put a little bit of baking soda in my tomato paste to get rid of the acid and make it taste better.oh sorry anon i forgot i MUST eat crap overpriced tomatoes out of season, and i MUST learn how to get the good ones just by picking it up, and i MUST learn all the species so i can pick the right one for each dish, and i MUST peel and dice them myself, and i MUST turn them into tomato paste myself instead of buying it in a can that cost 95c
>>21993065you can get san marzano tomatoes cannedthey're gonna be better than any fresh tomatoes shipped in the US anywayi like the little ones from trader joe's recently
>>21993065enjoy
>>21993038How do you peel 14 oz of tomatoes in 30 seconds?
>>21993065baking soda speeds up caramelization. i read some bullshit on instagram about using that for onions.last time i did it for sauce, because i don't like carrots so that's how i get sweetness, the sauce came out very malty. like a brown ale.
>>21993103do you not do your own grocery shopping or what
>>21993118It takes me longer than 5 seconds to peel one tomato. If you're a sous chef, then flex away.
>>21993123it's a little difficult to describe the technique, but very easy once you get the hang of itgoogle bianco dinapoli whole peeled tomatoes for a good tutorial, that's how I do it
>>21993125So it's less acidic because your can of tomatoes is uncut? Save even more time and buy some Rao's.
>>21993137or I can buy tomatoes that taste better and aren't weirdly crunchy and can be kept on hand to make anything, including (but not limited to) a better sauce than rao'syou could save some time by going out to olive garden, god knows you can't tell the difference
>>21993150>crunchywhat an odd thing to say
>>21993158even odder to not know that diced tomatoes have a weird overfirm chemical texture because you were too stressed out about 12 cents to ever try some nicer tomatoes
>>21993164>overfirmjust overcook em and you dont notice
just picked up a cheeky bag of washed ethiopian
>>21992341>>21992376I'd like to see you quit coffee for a week :)
>>21993158You haven't felt disgust until you've bitten into what looks like a nice juicy ripe tomato and been met with firm crunchy flesh and tough leathery lizard skin. The worst offenders are grape tomatoes, but in America a huge amount of what you find on grocery store shelves are crunchy and leathery. I guess that garbage survives longer when you store them in warehouses for 6 months before selling them. >>21992846This is a great hack for modern third-wave sour light roasts. "Coffee culture" way over corrected trying to get "fruity" flavors and just ended up making a ton of battery acid. You can also just find a good dark roast and not need to add shit to it to make it less sour.
>>21989994It's not instant. It's meant to be used in percolators or those meme drip machines. It should work fine. The only thing that ruins cold brew is if it's been burnt. Anything else melds down because of the long process.
>>21993493>Coffee culture" way over corrected trying to get "fruity" flavorsYou're drinking extracts of fruit seeds. The only reasons coffee shouldn't taste like fruit is if its shitty coffee, or all that fruit acid and sugar has been burnt out.
Dang, used hand grinder for first time today. Normal for it to feel stuck at times and you have to grind other way then rotate again? Also, this shit is a workout.
>>21993710How do I objectively measure if my brew is coffee culture?
>>21993477I haven't had coffee in like two already. I only get it when I go to the cafe, and I've either been busy or my spot has been closed on the days I'm free, and I'm not going to settle for ass coffee made by clowns in other cafes. I also don't drink coffee at home. I have zero gear to make it to begin with, unless I just put nescafe and hot water in a mug and that's just asswater.
sometimes asswater is ok desu
>>21993999It's never ok.
I bought a Normcore spray bottle for RDT, it's 30ml. What I actually got was a random 10ml knockoff spray bottle with a return LPN label on it.Somehow Amazon sent me what someone else had already returned them lmfao.
>>21993722is it a hario mini mill or are you grinding for espressoif not, no
>>21993722What grinder and grind setting?
Chemex filter question:The pre-folded squares seem to be used in such a way that when you place them, one half of the filter is very thick (as it has 3 layers) while the other half is thin (1 layer). Doesn't this negatively affect the pour over?
>>21994258yes but thats the way its designed to be usedalso remember to place the thicker side on the side the spout is on otherwise the brew will stall because it will create an airlock
>>21994258one of the many reasons not to brew in a chemex
>>21994261>>21994265Ah, I'm actually not using them on a Chemex, but on a Vandola instead. It's meant to support either V60 or Chemex filters. I've actually never used a Chemex, but I like the bigger filters because the big "ears" make clean up easier.I think now I understand something in retrospect. When I first got my Vandola, the barista had the un-folded Chemex filters and showed me how to fold them, which is a different technique to how I see the pre-folded ones. The alternative way keeps both sides of the filter the same thickness (2 and 2 layers)
Just had a cup of folgers instant with 40g of 0 sugar vanilla creamer and 1.5oz of vodka, lads
>>21994297alri ladenjoy
grimjk enjoy your goff kings (:
how big is ur pouring kettle and does it handle welldo u own multiple kettles or just the onewhat temperature do you brew your goff @
>>21994733Stainless steel stovetop kettle, this one has a whistle on the lid instead of the spout. I find that spout whistles are always prone to failure and never keep a good seal. The spout has a ball bearing in it to hold steam in when boiling. Tea gets 212F boiling water. Coffee gets 212F boiling water.
you ever have coffee so strong it loops back around and makes you eepy?
>>21995140No, extra strong coffee just gives me a panic attack
>>21995196skill issue
If I have to make the new thread its going to be a hoffmeme face.
>>21995199
>>21995199Well I'm not going to make it
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HdzJz_evNwwe've reached peak pseud
>>21995324>>21995324>>21995324
>>21995223no buscemi?
