>And there came a day, a day unlike any other, when Earth’s mightiest heroes and heroines found themselves united against a common threat. On that day, the Avengers were born—to fight the foes no single super hero could withstand! Through the years, their roster has prospered, changing many times, their glory has never been denied! Heed the call, then—for now, the Avengers Assemble!KOOKY QUARTET! KOOKY QUARTET!
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I think I might've fucked up the bump thing, so bumps help
Hope everyone's doing ok today
Yesterday was Tom Brevoort's last Avengers issue after editing the line for 26 years. We're in a new era. Maybe they'll let Vision and Wanda be happy now
This is Kirby and Dick Ayers?
>>143352939Getting closer to Caroltime every thread!
>>143353082>>143353096THE KING ENTERS!
>>143353082>>143353096LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CLINTCHADS WHERE WE AT???
>>143353092Jesus that's gonna take fucking forever! I'm trying to stay positive until we get Vision in here.
Crazy how much these three add. Clint being the team asshole, Wanda and Pietro looking for redemption.
The dad retcon really makes Silver Age Magneto extra evil because he's just doing this awful manipulation shit to his kids. Though come to think of it I don't know when they found out they were related so
What the hell is this helmet and vest Hank's wearing this issue>>143353119If I wasn't already storytiming I'd post the page from his first appearance where he talks about intentionally choosing a loud, garish costume
>>143353140>>143353153Why didn't he shrink before the press conference?
>>143353177Wanted to seem cooler by being big
Wanda's hex powers, 70 years and still incredibly ill defined
bumpthis is gold
>>143353243 Talking heads of the villains reacting is so good
>>143353153>Though come to think of it I don't know when they found out they were related soI think it was after Luna was born
Was reading people talk about the JLA and it's interesting to me how Avengers has the rotating cast happen super early and become part of the book while it's really hard for a JLA team to do that. The difference between all your popular heroes and all the extra heroes I guess?
>>143353255>>143353272It is crazy how much less powerful they are now. Also Hawkeye you don't have powers either shut up.
>>143353294Great Kirby cover
>>143353309>Don Heck (why not?)lol goddammit Stan
>>143353309>>143353327Did Wanda always have that two piece costume?
>>143353272People constantly asked Stan Lee about things he was barely involved with but sadly I don’t think anyone asked him or Kirby what was up with such a drastic change.I do think Wanda and Pietro and Clint were always intended to be heroes and introducing them as “villains” was just a twist on the normal superhero story. So they might have been chosen just because they were characters who weren’t going to get their own feature, which describes a lot of Avengers to come — popular but not popular enough to go solo.
oh also shut the fuck up Rick
>>143353357it's crazy how little people talk about Wanda and Pietro basically being gang pressed into the Brotherhood. >>143353377Sad Kirby didn't get to design the Danger Room, this is so cool. Tho I guess Don Heck deserves the credit, just looks like some Kirby architecture
Getting sad thinking of the years long arc of Hawkeye becoming a leader and one of the head Avengers and then Bendis BendisedFuck
Couldn't remember if this robot was a Super Adaptoid or not
>>143353460oh they finally got their own jet
>>143353486it's crazy to think none of this team can fly
>>143352939>KOOKY QUARTETWhat's so kooky about this quartet?
>>143353690now kiss
Weird last issue. Wonder how reading that Hulk issue would feel alongside
Time for some weird meddling in other countries affairs! Don't think too hard.
>>143353776This one is "smoothly drawn" by Don Heck. Wonder if he was upset
Like everyone in more casual clothing >>143353800How long ago did he write that letter, come on Nick
Uhh pretend I posted one of those "We know old shit is racist, sorry" images at the start of this
lol Steve trying to get a job at SHIELD by couping a random nation
>>143353922The twins are correct
>>143353922Maybe it's just early characterization but seeing Clint be more of an asshole than Pietro is funny
Lotta Wanda horny for Cap but I think that's more just how Stan writes women
>>143352939Avengers reshuffle issues are always fun.
very funny how the panels per page really picks up as we have 2 pages to wrap this up
That's all for today. Hope everyone enjoyed. Have a good one!
>>143352977Judging by the look on Hank’s face, Jan just crop dusted him as she went past.
>>143353045It’s more Ayers than Kirby judging by the line. I have a lot if the monster comics Ayers inked for Kirby and they look like Kirby.
Saw this very touching imo variant for Brevoort's final Avengers issue on twitter. Ron Lim after Perez.
>>143353177Comics
>>143353217I feel like Crystal’s elemental powers are in the same category.
>>143354632I don't know. They certainly allow for some liberal interpretations but I think there's still a clearer understanding of what MANIPULATES ELEMENTS generally means than whatever the fuck a HEX is.
>>143353327Rick Jones’ evolution into a lifelong tool is well underway.
>>143354756i hate him so much
>>143354769I dunno. I think I generally like him when he was just palling around in The Hulk. But then he started to become EVERYONE'S SIDE KICK!
>>143354589That's pretty cool tbqh
>>143352996Ah, the simpler times, when some guy with a cutting laser on his chest was still a blip on the radar instead of a single-panel mook
>>143353486I used to work in the desert and I can confirm mesas are rotten with supervillains. It’s a fucking problem.
>>143353119It hurts being a Clintchad
>>143353129>wishing to forget they're mutantsIf only it stayed that way...
>>143353082is this first jarvis in avengers?
>>143353400>it's crazy how little people talk about Wanda and Pietro basically being gang pressed into the Brotherhood.Because then they'd have to admit that the Magneto family they're pushing for is actually a bad thing
>>143354769He’s such an unbelievable douchebag when he’s working with Captain Marvel I just want him to die.
>>143353045>>143354474supposedly touched up by Carleton Hubbell, e.g. that giant man head at the end is neither kirby nor ayers
>>143353096she dead
>>143355465I think so, good catch.>>143355525It's a thing that in theory I'm neutral about but in practice it's always bad for everyone. Did he ever apologize for the manipulating them on the Brotherhood shit
>>143353096I forgot the Hawkeye/Black Widow relationship was a thing from the start. Hawkeye's other characteristic is being unlucky in love and very horny
>>143355586He's still better off than Matt Murdock.
>>143354166Thanks OP, love me some Kooky Quartet
>>143355693Did they ever do a Daredevil/Widow/Hawkeye love triangle? That could be fun. I don't think the timeline works though
>>143355731oh yeah
>>143353031>Yesterday was Tom Brevoort's last Avengers issue after editing the line for 26 years. We're in a new era. Maybe they'll let Vision and Wanda be happy nowI hope you're right, Brevoort is finally gone, let the nightmare end.
>>143353111>>143353129>Waifu is here, light and happiness have returned to the world
>>143353153Not until 1983, but everything that happened before gave the twins many very good reasons to hate him, until Marvel suddenly memoryholed decades of consistent characterization so they could pander to the idiots who want them to be a happy family.>>143353355>Did Wanda always have that two piece costume?No, the artists in this era of Avengers experiment with some changes to her costume, it's basically perfected when she returns to the team in the early 70s.>>143353357Of all the ways Silver Age Marvel changed the game for superhero comics, Hawkeye and the twins being "anti-villains", is one of the underappreciated things that was unique for the time. They were people who should have been heroes, but bad luck and circumstances trapped them as "villains" who weren't ever really evil. It's hard to say there was always a concrete plan for them to redeem themselves and become heroes, or if it just ended up happening, I don't know if anyone who was working on those books ever talked about them that much.The change to the Avengers roster does seem to have been done so the book would have it's own characters who belonged to that title, so there'd be less having to coordinate things with the solo books, and so Avengers could have it's own soap opera drama.
>>143353576> What's so kooky about this quartet?It's a nickname Steve Englehart made up in his Avengers run in the '70s (it sounds like something Stan could have come up with, but it isn't). I think it's just referring to the underdog nature of the team and what a minor-league team they are compared with the first lineup, at least in terms of power.Roy Thomas has said that the fan nickname at the time was "Cap and the Also-Rans," though he has also said that sales went up with this team because it was now a book that could surprise people.
>>143353955Pietro gets a sudden change in characterization in the 70s when Englehart makes him a lot nastier than he'd ever been before, and him being the guy with a bad attitude has largely stuck ever since, even when writers aren't trying to make him a bad guy, he's still bad tempered, snarky and disproportionately hostile with people a lot of the time.>>143353984Stan just forgets about Wanda's teenage infatuation with Cap when Sharon Carter gets introduced in Cap's own series to be his age-appropriate love interest.
>>143357020>even when writers aren't trying to make him a bad guy, he's still bad tempered, snarky and disproportionately hostile with people a lot of the time.ya gotta love Pad coming up with the whole PMS thing.
>>143353955Clint mellows out as he gains genuine respect for CapPietro just goes off the deep end for a bit and then remains at snarky prick
>>143357020Englehart also makes him hilariously racist to Vision that lasts until the 80s when Moondragon erases the racism from his brain
>>143355460In an ideal world, Magneto would just have been gaslighting the twins, tricking them into thinking they were mutants, they'd find out when the Brotherhood implodes, and permanently escape from all things X-Men forever. Ideally they'd also have made their debut in something else prior to UXM #4, just so they wouldn't have been included in the X-Men license for adaptations, and nothing stopping Avengers adaptations pushing and merchandizing them.
>>143357121>they get retconned into not being mutants>this still isn’t enough and they get dragged into their bullshit anyway because tumblr is infatuated with a Magneto family
>>143357020It's not entirely sudden, Roy Thomas did an arc where Pietro starts to become more dickish and ends with him going back to Magneto.What Englehart did was to take things Thomas had done with Pietro and exaggerate them into near-villainy, so his disapproval of her relationship with Vision (mostly because he thought she would get hurt) under Thomas turns into complete unredeemed bigotry under Englehart.
>>143357083Quicksilver doesn't even get to have a moment of positive character development where he learns to be better, he just gets brainwashed so he'd stop annoying Moondragon, as one of the steps in her slow burn heel turn Shooter was writing.It's even more sad that Pietro's still often hostile and bigoted towards Vision, who's one of the few Avengers that's even tried to be friends with him.
>>143353045It's "layouts by Kirby and art by Ayers" as the credits say >>143352977Basically means that Kirby drew a bunch of stick figures and simplistic backgrounds to get the poses and stuff in the right Marvel style, but the actual art is Ayers.Stan had Kirby do this for a number of new artists for a couple issues to get them accustomed to the house style.
>>143357140>tumblr is infatuated with a Magneto familyThis really is one of those things where people want something because of their headcanon idea of what it is, not because of what it actually is.I just hope the MCU stays the course than keeps them unrelated so the comics are forced to do the same, and people eventually let it go and wake up to it having done far more harm than good.
>>143357978>the comics are forced to do the sameI dunno they became unrelated years ago but that hasn't stopped them from treating them as though they are a family
>>143358551The twins were originally HAPPY to learn they were unrelated to a man they hated, and had many good reasons to hate.Marvel have done a 180 on this about 2 or 3 years ago, in what seems to be a combination of pandering to insane "Magnus Family" fans who want them to be a happy family of supporting characters for Magneto, and also out of petulance and pettiness over the MCU making Wanda get really popular for reasons that had nothing to do with Magneto or mutants.
Thanks, OP.
>>143356863Thanks.
>>143353177Well he is GIANT-man, gotta sell the bit.
Avengers might be hands down, the shittiest capeshit of all time, and these comics are a proof of that. No wonder nobody ever discusses this shit
>>143361002Nobody could dislike Avengers this much and be this salty about them except a seething X-Men fan who knows what penis tastes like
>>143355731It's definitely come up before, at least a little
>>143355731they did. Then Magneto showed up and thrashed everybody. It was metal
Not that great.
>>143353129The simping siblings!
>>143352939Cap, those are just photos taped to the wall, they're not the real Avengers!
>>143361911blegh
>>143361911Damn, Natasha can JUMP
>>143361002>>143362596>>143364012Why are you here?
>>143354166>Can burn draps>Can explode stuffWhat can't she do!!!
>>143364080>What can't she do!!!Get Marvel and the MCU to treat her well.
>>143353096>you want to joint our elite club of vigilantes?>lmao here's a manual you are fighting a genocidal psycopath tomorrow
huh Kirby art and Ayer's irks really gets along with digital remasterson the other hand 70s x-men's remasters are an eye sore
>>143353153>transistorized repelling beamsah stan, you goof
>>143353227>pym just being happy cap made it home;_;
>>143353400jezzus clint
>>143353877was stan at risk of the red scare or did he get really pissed about vietnam?
