Is X-23 the only good Marvel legacy character?
>>144493126she was good until she became female Wolverine
>>144493265True
>>144493265fpbp
>>144493126Ketch and Robbie are good.
>>144493265Come on bendis came before that.
>>144493126Hawkeye is pretty good too
>>144495353Thats true, I do like her as well
I like using a.i. to make lewd sets of Laura
>>144493265She wasn't good either. She's always been cheap waifu bait. Every book they forced her in fucking died.
>>144493126Scott's pretty good.
>>144493126human torch & mayday
Do you think they will shoehorn her into another relationship? Sow her oats like Logan? Or just be single for a few years?
>>144495388
>>144493126Favorite comics?
>>144496012Not OP but I like her in XForce
>>144496012Target X
>>144496019Asking in general. That book was great.
>>144496119Nice
>>144493126She was cool. I always hoped for a x23 and Hope book back in the 2000s. Never got it but two girls both trained to be a weapon from childhood would have been great. She sucked after putting on the black and yellow.
>>144498854Hope is a bit boring to me
>>144499304I like how she has little tantrums. And hope fighting moonstar was pure gold.
>>144495579Legit the best one. At worst, he scored his place as an inevitable legacy, at best he became the default version of Ant-Man
Just post the Wingbat pics already
>>144495760Johnny is indeed one.>>144495787I mean, NYX has hellion (well not confirmed but its all but confirmed) and the writers talked about them having a dynamic, so like it could be likely? Especially if they want to get easy good will for this book.>>144496012Target x is her best, innocence lost, her stuff in new x-men and x-force is fantastic too. Mixed on liu's book and avengers academy. Taylor's stuff is meh outside of some particular stand outs.
>>144500384Wingbat died
>>144493126She's not a "legacy character".
>>144493126X-23 sucks.
>>144500779>Wingbat diedI refuse to believe such libelous slander!
>>144493126Johnny Storm and Jonathan Blaze. They embody "Good artists copy. Great artists steal." simply because they supplanted the original Human Torch and Ghost Rider as the definitive versions.
>>144501595Nah
Why is Marvel's heroes mostly super human assassin's or professional killers, this chick is just a expy of a meat grinder butcher black ops specialist
>>144493126X-23 works better as a child soldier and daughter to Logan like in Evolution or Logan
>>144502579True
>>144500779Based
>>144493126Miles Morales and Kamala Khan
>>144504005OP said good.
>>144502482What
Is X-23 the same as Talon?
>>144505327Which one? Laura during the 2000s used that name even if some writers forgot it, then recently there was the old woman laura thing which while nominally it was the main laura it didn't act anything like her (neither did the wolverine one).
>>144502482Because Marvel is the edgy superhero company.
>>144504275They are.Cope more, timmy.
>>144496012Her 2012 solo run with Gambit was great
>>144506451Who was the artist who drew her during the Hellfire Gala? I found the rounder shape of her face pretty appealing.
I just looked up her latest shenanigans and read that her future (original) self diedReally like her as a street level hero
>>144502579Dunno, while those versions are good, the older laura allows for the bigger contrast with her unawareness of social norms and more potential for dynamics>>144506719Russel deteurman. Its the same face shape that choi gave her.
>>144506637Mixed on it personally.
>>144508331Such a small image.
>>144506848Yeah, it's pretty fucked. She got trapped in some time warp so the X-Men cloned her using a memory backup, but then a few years later the original Laura escaped the time warp after a thousand years or something had passed for her so now there were just two Lauras hanging around I guess. Then the original Laura died for real and now it's just the clone again.
>>144493265She was good while she was still drawn by Choi and written by Yost.
>>144508835Yeah it's so pointless. This feels exactly like when Logan died, "oh no, this popular character died FOR GOOD"We'll see her in 2027, I'm sure.
>>144509174I mean the new laura is her for all intents and purposes. While old laura was just turned into an oc.
>>144508882Based
>>144509174>>144509382Actually its not that dissmilar since there they had old man logan, but here its even more of a not-death cause young laura is just laura from the last time we saw her.>>144508835Old laura also was a nothing-character that just existed around boring synch.
>>144509415>>144509382Yeah, I guess I'm like, why even have the poor girl go through all that just to end up at the same place? the only difference is that ResLaura has the metal skeleton right? I feel like the entire sage could have been simpler.
>>144509444You see, duggan wanted to give laura the "no memories" of something thing because she's wolverine. And the character he actually wanted to write was synch so he made her accessory to that (hickman wrote the first story, but there it seemed to be that it wasn't going to be revisited and was just to mature up synch but even then it was random). Then he brought old laura back when laura was going to be used by percy's x-force, and then killed old laura to clean his mess. And now we have laura for all intents and purposes but with a random metal skeleton
>>144493126Thanks to her all the fanboys can COOOOM to their fantasies of fucking Logan without it being gayMirin' those abs
>>144509519She wasnt the first attempt at a female wolverine spin off, just the first people liked because the concept actually was good, even with how much marvel's fucked stuff up.
What is her bodycount?Since current Laura is a Clone she has all the experience but is technically a virgin again
>>144509519I have coom fantasies about Laura but it doesn't involve Logan
Man, I know Wolverine would get in first but if X-23 gets into Rivals, instant main, right there.
remember daken? yea me neither
brb gonna go re-read x force
any tips to get a x23 look for stablefidd prompts ?
>>144512118What?
>>144512118I use pony model autismmixSDXL_autismmixPony OrPony zonkey realism
>>144493126What about Johnny Storm he's such a good legacy people forgot there even was a Human Torch before him
>>144493126Post that one panel from X-force, you know the one
>>144511870It's funny how she was presented as being a clone despite being a girl and possibly a different ethnicity
>>144512553I always thought mixed Clone not 1:1
>>144512553Well she looked like her doctor, and a clone could be female desu.
>>144506556gabby was a mistake
>>144513443nice
>>144512093i get such a boner at this part>>144513463should've stuck with the age and aesthetic
>>144513758God why
>>144514049as a red-blooded male, i like seeing women hurt, captured, and dominated
>>144514081Bit weird ngl.
>>144514181its natural cave man instinctsee hot women, bonk her, take her to cave, breed her until she submits
>>144493126Anon, she's litterally the single fucking dumbest legacy character we've seen in a long goddamned time. Even her origin is indefensibly fucking retarded. WELL SPEND BILLIONS MAKING A CLONE OF WOLVERINE HEY THIS BEYOND AVERAGE DOUGHY OUT OF SHAPE MIDDLE AGED SCIENTIST HAD THE AUDACITY TO FIX OUR RETARDED PLANLETS IMPLANT THE...FEMALE CLONE?....INSIDE OF HER NEARLY USELESS WOMB AND LOCK HER IN A CAGE!!WHY BARELY 15 YEAR OLD FEMALE WOLVERINE CLONES INSTEAD OF MORE OF THE INDESTRUCTABLE TIER 10 SOCIOPATHS WE CAN EASILY MAKE AND CONTROL!!BECAUSE!!No seriously. She has being hot going for her and can and should be replaced with 20 year old asian psylocke while mid brit betty takes up her role of being an unfuckable incestuous loser.
>>144493126x-23's design totally sucks
>>144506128Then why did the movies turn out campy and comedic?
>>144502482>Why is Marvel's heroes mostly super human assassin's or professional killershttps://youtu.be/38ApYaywLzs?si=HPFtV-Ly5dQCgCSh
>>144514819it does NOW but back in the day she was cool
>>144512215when im writing stablediffusion what are some key words to include to make the girl im proompting look like x-23 ?
>>144514305The facility makes more than one weapon. And after Laura they instantly were making more of her too. You understand you have more than one scientific project at a time..right Dunno what the fuck you on about Psylocke. Kwanon and current Betsy are both boring rn
>>144512723616 Laura isn't a clone at all. She was born like any other kid and looks exactly like her mom, Sarah Kinney. Wolverine's her pop.
>>144496012the one where she's a 14 you prostitutewait thats her canon first appearance too ahahahimagine liking this character
>>144498854>x23 and Hopeunrelated but i took up some xmen issues a week ago and i found out that Psylocke, Rachel, Hope, Magik and Laura are all lesbians/butch/biwhat the hell is going on?
>>144508835neither Laura nor Ilyana are the real onesthey haven't been for years dude
>>144508835>Then the original Laura died for real and now it's just the clone againit's fucked up how much the x-men fuck with clones and resurrection, just because they can't stand death and losseven resurrection by the 5 is fucked up.. just think about all the clones and souls of the clones or timetravel bullshitit's torture for the original ones and copies
>>144513463i want Marvel to come out and say "please everybody ignore NYX 1-6 thank-you"
>>144516784Her creators consider her a clone, she is one.
>>144516802Psylocke and rachel are bi. The others arent.
>>144516794>only applies for one comic while her first appearance was in a cartoon>has two excellent oirign minis made by her creators>good roles in two team booksYeah cant imagine why people like the character.>>144516866They largely have, the cover is like the most they've done in a while
>>144516894>They largely have, the cover is like the most they've done in a whilein some recent issue (with Gambit it think) a character asks her what she was doing for a living in New York and Laura is shown mortified and mute
>>144516877Magick is absolutely bi
>>144516866It is weird that they are even bringing back the NYX comic name.
>>144516989Joe Quesada what an absolute clownnot even fuck your 16yo girl above his mom Austen is such a clown
>>144496412>storm not being in sex goddess>emma frost is
>>144516627No, they didn't. The entire origin was that basically all of their money went to a wolverine clone. A fucking wolverine clone with conceptually speaking Sabretooth was superior in every way.Wolverine was leaving unprotected bastards across the planet and would continue to leave bastards across the world. It's retarded. And if they wanted a hot slinky ninja girl, they should have had a de-aged psylocke. The time of the thiccc/instathot hot asian ninja bitch is here! And no one likes betsy braddock or cares she exists. I think we need to face facts. >>144516802They started taking the wrong lessons from Claremont. And this is why I said Psylock should get the 05 from the future/AU treatment and get a hot college aged version that's not a dykes fingerpuppet or bulldyke.
>>144516960>recentThat issue was in 2011.
>>144517280Sabretooth didnt have the sucessful bonding of the skeleton under weapon x by the time the clone development started and was more of a consistent loose canon. Wolverine makes more practical sense.He didn't have a single one publication wise by then, and the only one later who had his healing powers was already a free agent.Laura isn't a hot ninja girl. Its just something else. Narratively she accomplishes more of the cold weapon learning to be a person. And design wise her looks tend to lean more towards urban than ninja.No one cares about kwanon or captain britain betsy I agree. People liked the mix of the two ideas. Without it its empty
>>144516973We dont really see it, so I wouldn't count it.
>>144518086When is it even mentioned?
>>144508882That was 20 years ago man
>>144518086>>144518170we don't see her doing the most depraved shit with limbo demons either, but she literally talks about it
>>144517407>Sabretooth didnt have the sucessful bonding of the skeleton under weapon x by the time the clone development started and was more of a consistent loose canon. Wolverine makes more practical sense.She's not 60. She's 15 and they successfully bonded adamantium to sabertooth soon after wolverine.Secondly, Wolverine is not controllable at all he broke free and even went back to destroy them.Sabertooth is a superior choice and is a mindless savage weapon easily controlled. Also Laura is "le hot martial arts" girl and her whole TEACH ME HOW TO BE A HUMAN thing only makes her MORE of a rip off of cassandra cain but with a dumb backstory. Lastly, I want a hot thicc 20ish asian ninja girl with purple hair goddamnit. If both of those shitter characters have to be made their own and take up valuable space on the page to get it. So be it.
>>144518412Maybe
>>144518086
>>144516877Betsy and Rachel are a couple and Magik, well, i just posted the panel. Kitty also kisses a random woman at some point. As for Laura, there's some subtextual stuff and possibly unintentional chemistry with a few girls here and there but nothing's explicit, and I have no idea why Hope was brought up- has she ever shown interest in anyone at all??
>>144518910Didn't Hickman write that comic? IIRC it was really weird since everyone was dumb as hell.
>>144514198and that's another one for my folder
>>144508882>>144513463i miss her old fashion sense.
>>144518957Rachael has always been a bulldyke who dies childless and alone in the futureAnd Betsy has always been a slut that fucks everything and has a thing for little boys(canon). As long as hot asian psylocke is basically a seperate character now. I don't give a shit. As for Kitty, let's be honest. No one fucking likes her. I can't think of anyone who says WHERE'S KITTY PRYDE!THE BOOK IS NOTHING WITHOUT HER!!?!!
>>144519027scuse me what was that about Betsy
>>144518462No? Sabretooth only got bonded to adamantium in the 90s, with according to marvel's timeline means it happened AFTER laura was created.More controllable. Its relative.She is marvel's cassandra cain, sure?Sure, just that psylocke without the British accent hasn't been popular yet, kinda showing its the combination that makes people like the character. Its why the Japanese game still had her with the accent.
>>144519027What, betsy has had kids with franklin consitnetly.
>>144519143I liked rachel and kurt personally.
>>144493126Yes
>>144514821Mass market appeal + Whedon writing
>>144516784It's a retarded clone baby that should have mascarried moments after it was created and implanted. It is in effect a fucking clone.And them gestating and growing their multimillion dollar weapon in a dumpy doughy middle aged geek and her being born like any other kid is fundamentally the most retarded shit I've ever heardThey have a tube to gestate a human being and constantly look it over and care for it and enhance and mutate it.Fucking Damian Wayne was built like this. AzraelTHE HUMAN TORCH FROM THE 1950'S It's...fucking dumb.Look the only thing I will accept with this character is that she's in fact the first successful clone of the unborn child of wolverine and silverfox and her entire nonsensical backstory are poorly written and thought out memory implants with the lead of the x-23 project positioning herself as "their mother". She's not even the first one that she's given that origin. Hell the grandmother her handler kimura is wining about is probably dr.kinney as well.
>>144519143that's rachel
>>144519089ClaremontThats' all you need to know.>>144519133>No? Sabretooth only got bonded to adamantium in the 90s, with according to marvel's timeline means it happened AFTER laura was created.According to real world timelines he was bonded in the early to mid 90's right around the time EVERYONE had to get adamantium this or that. And if we are going by timelines being canon then Laura should be nearing 50 correct? No. They had all the time in the fucking world to course correct to Sabertooth. I mean the fuck were they hoping to do with a fucking 15 year old female clone of wolverine? >More controllable. Its relative.The fuck are you saying?No, Sabertooth could have easily been given a few memory implants and had his conscious mind supplanted and replaced with a compliant one. >She is marvel's cassandra cain, sure?No, rip off of cassandra cain. And she's not even the fifth female sho doesn't understand normies in the xmen. Hell Rahne did the girl who doesn't understand normals and has a wild savage side she can barely control and didn't have a stupid origin or had to sell her self. >Sure, just that psylocke without the British accent hasn't been popular yet, kinda showing its the combination that makes people like the character. Its why the Japanese game still had her with the accent.Anon, you do realize that accents aren't ENTIRELY genetic and can be picked up correct? Hot Asian assassin girl with british accent who goes full hot thicc thot mode when freed fom the control of the hand.
>>144519143She's an in canon average looking mega skank with a thing for little boys.
>>144519393Fuck i meant rachel. Yeah rachel has had au kids with franklin and dated him in days of future past.
>>144519245>>144519419>>144519393She got with the random female with these powers and background stick that you people here bitch about constantly . She is in fact a canon butch lesbian who dies barren and alone in the future.
>>144519396I am talking in marvel time. in marvel time by the 2000s the 80s were not even 10 years ago, so laura would have been born before sabretooth got the metal.No? She was 15 by the 2000s, she'd be what in her 30sThey weren't gonna change it once theyalready had her born lmao.If xavier couldn't change sabretooth, the facility wouldn't have been able to.She is similar sure. But she is also popular.And rahne was more similar to kurt than laura id say. And laura doesn't have a "savage" side, the stuff with her is all more calculated outside of trigger.I am saying that people like that specific dynamic, and kwanon doesn't have it. She's just blank as a board or muh kids.
>>144519442What? Rachel is one of my favorites, always was. I am fine with her dating betsy as boring as current betsy is. I just liked the idea of her and kurt. I also like her and kitty.
now that krakoa is over what book is laura in ?
>>144519953Nyx
>>144520004just looked it up and holy shit this looks bad, Laura's costume looks bad and why is she being put into a book where she is seemingly the only adult? every one else is teens
>>144520060No, everyone else is college age too. Anole is running a bar, prodigy is in a college course, the cockuo is in college. It might actually be the first thing that remembers that they are supposed to be laura's age.
>>144516506Just grab a lora
>>144520186what about Kamala ?
wait so what happened to original laura ?
>>144520289Died then contained in Synchs brain then let goClone Laura post vault is the one we have now
>>144520358wow ive now been reading comics long enough for a tony stark heroes reborn type of retcon for a character that was brand new when i began reading comics kek . original laura literally doesnt exist anymore ?
>>144520358what happened to gabby ?
>>144520275She is 18 now apparently?
>>144520384Didnt exist during krakoa either desu, it was just an oc wearing her skin.
>>144520405Killed by shadowman in New mutants book and resurrected
>>144520423dammit i was hoping they would get rid of her for good
>>144520433She isnt in any book. So you might have gotten your wish.
>>144520433They gave her some kids to play sith
Zebra Daddy owned.
>>144520850I made a.i. porn of this
>>144520521They were cute together and would have made a better couple than Laura and Warren.
X-23 would have been better if they kept her autistic and edgy instead of turning her into single mom le quirk chungus saddled with Gabby whose dialogue was written to mimic Joss Whedon.Every good story or character will eventually be passed to a writer who will completely repurpose them for whatever story they want to tell, and then the character can no longer go back to what it was.Now she's just female Wolverine, and we'll never get her back.
>>144518973ayy
>>144520983Plus opportunity for trolling old Cyclops
>>144521028who?
I've never read a comic involving her. Is it true that Quesada turned her into a child prostitute, whose hymen gets healed by her mutant powers, so every client gets to feel like they're fucking a virgin?
>>144521179Healing factor is based on body image so no
>>144521179yes>Hymen doesn't work like thataccording to WESTERN studiespopulations that put pussy on a pedestal while celebrating whoring
>>144520983While i prefer laura and julian, laura and scott could have been fun.
>>144521247She had no chemistry with any of the guys, especially fucking Gambit that one fujoshit tried to establish
>>144521258I liked her dynamic with julian under yost personally. It was fun.I think the gambit thing was just supposed to be him as the perfect father figure. But liu was too much of a gambit fangirl and it comes off really too perfect.
>>144521258She needs a guy a few years older that can handle her, a Jason Todd type would be perfect
>>144521325That's dumb
>>144521325I like grown adult on teenagers as much as the next guy but she needs someone who went through something similar to her. Homeless Mutant Quest did this really well with crack bitch JJ
>>144521430More like 25 year old with a 19 year old but Laura getting dommed by someone like Warpath or Sabertooth would be fun
>>144521458>Warpath or Sabertooth would be fungrossno failures and no furries
>>144521440Booba to big
>>144521477what if mid booba and big ass young but big booba and big ass adult?
>>144521477Her claws coming out between her fingers is the real problem.
>>144521475Anyone who is twice her size is best
>>144521430Making her partner just like her kinda defeats the point desu
>>144521515Small booba and slender when prostitute Nice bum, medium booba and abs as current, she should be as big as Sakura from street fighter
>>144521591booalso really weird comparison>>144521587deeply traumatized people will always be strange and offputting to normal peoplesomeone who has moved on from trauma can actually understand where she's coming from and why she behaves so strangely
>>144521610Most fighting games have a boob scale, Laura would be in the middle a little back
>>144521351So she should be a dyke? Because you people like her completely fucked when it comes to relationships and easily manipulated and keep putthing her with same aged girls and older women....>>144521430Ah there we go.
>>144521610But that's the point, if you have a relationship between two characters who essentially act the same..there's zero contrast whatsoever or the characters growing from the trauma because its someone that doesn't need to. Like if its someone just as offputting as her there's no real point in having two characters.Altough honestly, its more about the fact the trauma shouldn't be the same, it should be someone with some frame of reference of normality but a different POV on it. Again, I am biased here, I think julian under yost did all of that and the dynamic was fun. Just cut too short. Then again, they are doing a reunion in NYX it seems?
>>144521628I wouldnt mind mercury i guess. But not particularly. I just don't think the same background works for relationships. Parells and contrast absolutely. Just not too 1 to 1.
>>144520423In-between we got that Weekend at Bernie's issue where No-Girl psychically puppeteered her corpse.
>>144521651sorry anon, you're dumb>>144521628>Ah there we go.it was literally perfectthe best laura was ever written and it's in a fucking 4chan quest
>>144521678I don't mind if Gabby gets in a young teen book
>>144521695Maybe you mean something else, but characters in relationships should contrast and compare, not just be sueprfically similar. Maybe your example is that, tho I wont deny I kinda doubt it.
Laura shouldn't date anyone for a bit, give her a break from raising Gabby and let her go wild for a little bit, college aged Laura should be like the Xterminator girls and fool around before settling down
>>144521898That just doesnt fit any characterization of laura, even the worst ones.
>>144521908Characters change
>>144521948bad writing
>>144521955Slut crew
>>144521948Absolutely, im just sayng its not the most fitting.>>144521971The sad thing is that this book was the krakoa book that wrote laura the most like laura. She was serious but not aggressive and she occasionally did her overly formal speech thing.
>>144522083It was a fun but dumb book, would read more
>>144522101I more so mean the standard for laura during that era was so abysmal even the fun dumb book by a writer that is iffy with characterization did a better job than duggan. Let that sink in.
>>144521971It sucks gomez only drew this ugly outfit.
would you?https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2698933
>>144522123I'm good, rather have fun vs picking everything apart and getting mad
>>144522160Yes but she might hunt me down
>>144522133She was in a witch costume for a bit
>>144522133
>>144522252Yeah that was cooll.>>144522170I am speaking positively of x-terminators comparatively.
>>144521587>partnerGay term.
>>144516870And yet the actual story presents her differently.
>>144519301>Look the only thing I will accept with this character is that she's in fact the first successful clone of the unborn child of wolverine and silverfoxWhy not just take the clone bullshit out of it and make her their actual kid? Logan just didn't know about her until recently.
>>144522454I mean proper costume. But man that dialogue is the most laura laura has sounded in so long.>>144522520The specific wording is genetic twin, which sure.>>144522534Because the point of her character Is that she's created in a cold and sterile place to just be a weapon>>144519301Oh hey its your weird fanfic guy
>>144522454They are so short
>>144522548>Because the point of her character Is that she's created in a cold and sterile place to just be a weaponEh. Just have the Weapon X guys find and train her.
>>144522600The thing is that its from birth, every minute of her life was in a controlled situation, even her "mother" was part of it and the two people who treated her like a person she had to kill due to trigger taking any choice away from her. If logan struggles with feeling like a wild animal, laura struggles with feeling like a robot with no concept of choice.
>>144522548I'm slowly working on an X-23 fanfic, 3 chapters done and 3 more planned
>>144495579his only fault is that he doesn't get many stories. There have only been miniseries with him lately, and on one hand, I get it, but on the other hand they could at least add him to an Avengers team or something if he's in that realm of popular-unpopular to make him relevant again.
>>144522760What are you doing?
>>144523176Taking my time
>>144523176>>144523354Coming up with different lewd scenarios for each chapter, will end it as the Krakoa age starts and Laura goes into the vault
>>144523505>doing krakoa at all
>>144523516Fitting it in chronologically Living with Gabby in NYC era
>>144523536what the fuck is wrong with you
>>144523740Nothing, no lewding the Gabby just Laura adjusting to breaking up with Angel and having a little sister now
>>144521778Just dump her in the new Avengers Academy.
>>144523825With Molly Hayes
>>144522133>ugly outfit
>>144523917Yeah her only good wolverine outfit was the grey one.
>NYX writers confirmed laura is getting love interest plots in NYX>Hellion is almost 100 percent the krakoanMan, sure being subtle are they?
>>144508331I liked this episode
>>144521515I think pic related is where it's add. Slim but athletic with a bit of muscle, and slightly wider in the bottom part.She's a dex build with a little str sprinkled on top.Now she just needs a vampilee bff/gf and a reboot back to pre-gabby era X-23.
holy shit the nyx outfit looks terrible
>>144522633>the two people who treated her like a person she had to kill due to trigger taking any choice away from herher mom and who else? whos #2?
>>144524363>her momway too many people give this bitch a free passshe knew the entire time what was being done to her and only does anything when she's in her teens
>>144524363The martial arts instructor guy, I think?
>>144524400Yeah it's crazy how the writers just gave her a pass, and when they met her clone they just pretended like she didn't bring Laura just so she could help torture her for over a decade.
>>144524455holy thicc who is this one of the Benes?
>>144524573Leo Matos>Benes8---DDDD
>>144513758>>144514081>>144514198i want her like thisi want to fill her up with so much cum she can't even muster the will to try to escape
>>144524363Her sensei RIP
>>144524400Yes, its the point. She literally writes that laura should NEVER forgive her.
>>144524955except laura didand it's never brought up again
>>144524991i enjoy mike choi/sonia oback team so much
>>144524991>killed her off in the shittiest fucking wayalso, she never looks this young again
>>144525025Choi is so kino.
Brooks drew disney laura. Hopefully this means the other nxm are soon since he also helped design them.
>>144524991so she raped her, right?way too many rapey subtextsbitch outright licks her teeth when cutting off her arm
>>144525137he only released like 3 last weekAnd he still hasn't done Magma, Husk or Skinfeels like he's starting to wrap up
>>144525146Maybe
>>144525193she even abuses her like lesbians often do
>>144525193
>>144523505What are your chapter ideas?
>>144525281i like how casual she is here>>144524991she's just used to roughplay
>>144525351She's a doomer before it was cool
>>144525150I hope he does at least some other new x-men, he designed them for god's sake :(And I doubt it he keeps getting a ton of content from it.
>>144493126I wish she'd go back to whoring.
>>144525414It'd be funny if she just gave up on trying to be Logan 2.0 and got herself an OnlyFans account instead.
>>144525414I'd like closure Have a short with Laura thinking about her past and how she us grateful for her current life
>>144525458Could do what she did in liu's run (as much as I am mixed on it) her hunting some people who do that would be cool.
>>144525458She's too busy girlbossing and getting compliments, much to the chagrin of the CHUDS on internet message boards.
>>144525539disgusting
>>144525503Maybe have a short with one of the psychics like Emma or Betsy remembering helping a damaged but brave young girl get over her tragic past.Or a princess bride type bedtime story with Laura telling Gabby about a captured princess who was a slave all her life who escape and had to learn to love again
if they're keeping her cringe ass nu-self, it should be her getting raped back into a slut
>>144525545It can only get worse from here.
>>144525137cute
>>144525572I have some trust the NYX writers at least mentioned her past stuff. I doubt its gonna be this bad.
She need to have hot lesbian sex with magik
>>144526329Laura seems like the type who will maybe kiss another girl on a dare or slap Jubilee's ass but is pretty hetero although if someone she respected like Jean said "Laura Strip" she would do it.
Do you prefer blue, brown or green eyes for laura?
>>144526555green eyes obviously>>144522160even her porn gets it right
>>144526555Green, I lol when the official art gets it wrong
>>144526555Dead.
>>144526851I prefer chois wide eyed more innocent eyes.
>>144526889
>>144526895Eh wouldn't be a top 5. Top 10 maybe.
>>144526909
>>144526916Better example of the same artist
>>144523835it's crazy how there's so many options for the new avengers academy and they chose all the worst ones lol
>>144525247different each chapterolder male x Laura first chapterteen boy x Laura for the secondgangbang for Laura for the thirdplanning flashback chapter for 4th
>>144524363"her mom"Implying that bitch is her mom and she was ever born and birthed. She was grown in a tube and fed lies.
>>144507186I dunno I thought it gave her a really solid characterization and I liked the role Remy played in it. You can argue it got a bit lost once Jubilee was added in, but still
>>144526271hot>>144526006i have complete faith in their ability to fuck it up
>>144526851Green is the best choice.Blue eyes and black hair is better for the evil office lady.webm related, what 3DPD Laura would look like(maybe a bit too brown but pretend she's been tanning)
>>144516989Didn't her creator hate this?
>>144518910I don't like her being sexual
>>144526549>all of these are, technically, legacy versions of Marvel heroesInteresting
>>144525281Her handler being indestructible was weirdly brushed aside like why wasn't that a bigger deal
>>144527824Kyle and Yost didn't agree with it but cashed the cheque anyway
>>144526350I agree with this but Gabby said she had feelings for a girl so that could mean Laura is the same but it could just be a Gabby thing
>>144527824Man, I would be fucking pissed if my angsty but cute Wolverine clone got turned into a child prostitute for cheap pathos. I don't know how writers do it.
>>144527891nature vs nurture, if you cloned anyone some of them would be gay
>>144527925they get paid everytime a character they created gets used, Liefiled just gets Deadpool money and hasn't worked on him in 30 years
I liked Female the boys better, she's cute. Meanwhile X-23 is just an OC that didn't work out. At least she's fun in MVC3
Someone needs to remember she used to have friends.
>>144528907She was sacrificed on the girlboss altar so we could have the female Wolverine that is as good as the guys pretty much.Now she has the same cut and paste personality as every other female X-woman.
>>144527861It was pretty important.
>>144526271Nice
>>144528280They need to stop with the Wolverine mask, it just doesn't look good on women.
>>144493126She's one of the only tolerable examples.She was allowed to exist for over a decade before becoming Wolverine, and she actually had a biological and even emotional connection to him to justify it.The issue isn't that she became a female Wolverine. It's that modern comic writing is dogshit, especially for most of marvel. If it was better written and wasn't shoehorned in along with a dozen other legacy character pushes, it'd probably have been better received.
>>144496412>Rogue>Cold fishNah. When you're horny as fuck for at least a decade before you can finally touch somone, you're not going to be a dead fish.Like, imagine you're the first man Rogue can touch safetly. Imagine the sheer enthusiasm and willingness to do any depraved fucking thing you want because she's spent years fantasizing about every sex act imaginable.
>>144508835Isn't there also a third Laura clone around that's a little girl becausr Weapon X cloned like 6 more Lauras and the child one is now basically Laura's little sister?Or did they kill that child off too?
>>144531100it's so fucking stupid
>>144531100They did kill Gabby but then they brought her back
>>144531062Rogue is especially not a cold fish after gaining control over her powers.
>>144531100>>144531124That's gabby. Wasn't weapon x tho. Laura wasn't created by weapon x either
>>144527598Evolution Laura was about that shade.
>>144531353awkward
>>144531353>>144531475
>>144531532>allabuoh no
>>144531532cutei miss her autism
>>144531532And she still is a better roommate than noriko.
>>144493265This
>>144531551Same
I'm surprised nobody is mad at the a.i. images ITT
>>144532957If we ignore them they go away
>>144530218Yeah but I mean how indestructible, how'd they do it, can it work on other people? Stuff like that. It just seems like a more impressive power for an assassin to have.
>>144527936He's made stuff recently
>>144534163Cute
>>144532967
>>144534928>>144535241How long should her claws be? 7 inches at most?
>>144493416Hope she is in Deadpool & Wolverine
>>144535558She might not be
>>144535333However long logan's are i guess.
>>144535333Weird how her claws looked like they grew while being incased in adamantiam but that could just be how some artists choose to draw them
>>144536435>>144537161Should be smaller than her forearm
>>144527936That's not true. Royalties agreements at Marvel and DC have differed over the years, and all depend on what contracts the company was offering at the time. Books like Deadpool, Cable and X-Force need to sell over a certain level for Liefeld to get any royalties from them, we learned this when Marvel replaced those books with Agent X, Soldier X and X-Statix in the early 2000s, and people thought it was about preventing Rob from getting royalties, he admitted he hadn't been getting any in years because the books weren't selling well enough.
>>144538022Lol, sucks to be them
>>144527936>>144538022A reminder that todd macfarlne got paid more for stargirl using artemis than for any of the venom movies.And as far as x-23 goes, kyle has commented on some stuff and not being fond of it. The prostitute thing definitely being one. Which Is why the origin minis he did with yost largely ignored it.
>>144538476it happens, he created a character based of another character, If I created Son of Joker I can't really get upset when DC does stuff with him
>>144538495I mean, coming from the same person who thanked you for creating the character. You do have a right getting mad. Especially when they came to you then to write them properly.
>>144538539yeah but if they decide to take my son of joker and make him trans for sake of sales it's out of my hands, my opinion doesn't matter it's just business
>>144538548Id say it still matters.
>>144519301>And them gestating and growing their multimillion dollar weapon in a dumpy doughy middle aged geek Real life cloning uses real mothers. Korean cloners have a breed of dog that exists just to give birth to puppy clones. Realistically they'd have 100 mothers giving birth to wolverine clones and most of the mothers would miscarry or die in the process. The reason laura kinney was used was because zander rice is a cunt who wanted to fuck over the person getting in the way of his project. this is the guy who's concept of revenge is cloning some one then torturing the clone.
>>144538944Sarah, but yeah.And man people sleep on what a good antagonist he is, and how that ties to good cycles of revenge thematically.
>>144514081"terminally online" male, you mean, desu
>>144539069cope
>>144518910What is this slop. Is this comics? Old or new?
>>144539082newish within the last 5 years
>>144519584>But she is also popularShe is hot, not popular. She can easily be replaced with vaguely 20ish thicc asian british former hand assassin Psylocke from an AU and she will have far more fans and easy iconography to start from. Hell Psylock did what x-23 is failing at doing right now when she died and was resurrected with the ebon dawn and was far cooler and hotter while doing it. Laura is objectively inferior as a character and only emo losers like her.
>>144539110
>>144539110She cant, becuase they've been trying to and kwanon isn't the one used in media outside of the comics.I don't know what you're even saying, but you're also the silverfox guy so your stuff is legit bizarre. Rn it wouldn't be a stretch to say laura is more popular than psylocke, she has logan to her name, that's more than psylocke has lmao.
>>144533535Anon, litterally everything and I mean everything about X-23's origin is indefensibly fucking retarded. They have a luke cage level indestructable class 10 who is under their complete control and she's treated like something they just whipped up with ease. And they are spending all of this money and effort on fucking barely functional female wolverine clones? Let the sheer idiocy of that sink in. The logistical incompetence at play. Even Wolverine was more of a proof of concept prototype and a one off soldier to put into wars as a shock and awe one man murder machine soldier ala captain america that could be disposed of. The fuck does x-23 have? They could litterally get a low-tier marvel boy level psychic to crush the windpipe of anyone from a half mile away for not even a million bucks per kill and still come out cheaper then making a fuckton of x-23 clones that they keep in line with apparently easier and cheaper to create, far more powerful and objectively superior 100% controllable basically indestructable class10+ super soldiers. The math isn't fucking mathing!https://youtu.be/KJtopGwXJH8?t=8
Laura has alot of nice lewds
>>144539224It's comicbooks, there is squirrel girl
>>144539224Yes just like weapon X has SHIVA, and yet they waste their time with wolverine and sabretooth.
>>144539161Okay lots of wrong to unpack here1.They've been trying how? 2.No one knows who kwannon is, no one gives a single sideways fuck about betty. They care about hot asian chick with purple hair and psyblade that appeared in xmen movies and xmen 90's era stuff like the wildly popular xmen vs capcom. 3.Shes wolverines creepy retarded origin clone that has appered in a shit cartoon, as an uncared for extra in a now noncanon wolverine movie, and an not very popular addition yo st vs capcom.>>144539302You mean the android that was built later and is a one off?kimura is built into x23s origin. you cant unfuck this
>>144520413What? How? Which comic confirms this?
>>144539392She went to college. She's 18.
>>144539341The adnroid built with the ability to kill all weapon x creations yeah. That exists. And yet they don't mass produce it.
>>1445393411. kwanon2.Yes that's the point, their attempt at keeping the visual without the character has not really done shit.3. In the most popular wolverine movie which is considered to be one the best superhero movies where she's essentially the dramatic heart. Yeah lol. And she was a very popular addition to MVC that helped her popularity immensely (much like shuma, but didn't work for marrow).
>>144539341>hates character>has nothing to add to discussions on the character>constantly talks about shitty fanfiction instead of characterWhy the fuck are you on a thread about the character?
>>144539224The driving force behind x-23 was Zander rice, who just wanted to clone wolverine for the purpose of torturing him. That’s it. An undetectable child soldier with the ability to sniff out targets was a side benefit.
>>144539579There is nothing stronger than spite is there?
>>144539707nice
>>144516480Nah. Fundamentally flawed. Should not have 2 claws per hand. Should have 3 and no foot claw. They were trying to make her unique but it always looks worse than just having 3. Also, if she is supposed to be Logan's clone/daughter she certainly looks nothing like him.
>>144538450Who that
>>144539770The foot claws are modeled after lionesses, and they are more useful than 3 desu.
>>144539707Abs
>>144539224They easily could have worked around it like her having a low level control over metal. Nothing as strong as Magneto but enough to repil Luara. Or she could just be a really good fighter.
>>144539789doesn't matter if they are practical or what they were modeled after. It's a shitty design choice
>>144537936Nice
>>144539770retard take. the 2 claws plus foot works
>>144539098I mean. Both are still great.Especially when mom clothes are hiding some truly slutty lingerie underneath.
>>144543270>both workDude laura has been not greatly written in that period. Then again the other example is bendis, and that was the beginning of the end for her.
>>144541283haha
>>144539707Cute
>>144546080Nice
Need more pinips
New book is fun, has the sisters back together
I hate nu-Laura. I want X-23 back.
>>144548724wut
>>144547098I misread that as pimps.
>>144548837Fungus baddie controls people with spores
>>144548914what he do with x
>>144548937Control her with spores for 2 or 3 issues
>>144548953i meant specifically
>>144548976Touched her boobie
>>144493126they ruined herthey have her dress up in her dad's clothes and pretend its empowering or interesting or some kind of character growthalso Honeybadger is cringe
>>144549044naisu shouldve raped her though
>>144549487If you want to see cringe look up LGBT x-23 on tumblr, a few artists turn her into female Nathan Explosion
>>144538476From what people working there have said, it sounds like Marvel contracts in the 80s and early 90s were better on royalty payments for comic sales than they were for royalties on reprints, or characters you created getting adapted into live action, cartoons, toys, games, etc. DC being owned by Warner since about the early 70s meant they had much better royalty deals in place for characters getting adapted into TV and movies, there's that story about Len Wein revealing he got more royalty money from the Dark Knight trilogy using Lucius Fox than he ever got in royalty money for Wolverine.IIRC Jim Starlin got some payout from Disney and a lot of work from Marvel to keep him on board with the MCU using Thanos, as the royalties he'd have been entitled to based on the contract he signed back in the 70s would have been virtually nothing, like nobody at Marvel back then seemed to think superhero movies were going to take off.
Will we see her?
>>144550068She's doing some other Disney thing, But she will almost definitely be in that young adventures thing?
>>14455006890 percent. If not in DP3 then in SW.
>>144550068Hope so
>>144551016Nice tummy
>>144552035I love professional/autistic women casually wearing thongs.it feels appropriatelike they just wear what's comfortable but it's odd as far as anyone else sees
>>144552093You see her underwear in her first solo book when she meets Danken
>>144552190i rememberpretty sexy
>>144550068How would she look in the classic costume
>>144552749Curvy with a thicc ass
Laura is back to NYC, back to the street, seem she's dragged back to being a teenager again.Thought ?
>>144493126>>144493265Isn't she dead now?
>>144552922Yesi feel like writing something where some random somewhat dubious schmuck takes her inHe sees her wandering lost on the street and tries to hire her as a prostitute for her to ask if she can just stay at his place in return for whatever. She's like a pet and a wife. When there's a chance for him to get a promotion, Laura proposes that she assassinates the other possible candidates. He accepts, not knowing she's completely serious, and is actually okay with it when he figures out, having been fucked or at the bottom of the ladder for as long as he can remember. He keeps moving up thanks to Laura until he's rich. Something like that.
>>144493126>Marvel legacyYou need to leave.
>>144552922>>144552968Laura is back on wearing midriff again. Seems without her sister daughter Cabby around, she's back on wearing her " before kid"clothing
>>144552922Id say nah, but laura should be autistic again.
>>144553054Honestly somewhat intrested in her actually getting to interact with characters she has history, for bloody once.
>>144553094she somehow grew older than everyone in x academy despite being the same age as them
>>144553100>she somehow grew older than everyone in x academy despite being the same age as themHow old Laura is anyway? At the beginning of her year as the female wolverine, she said she couldn't drink beer yet. But now apparently she could. So 18 ~20 maybe?
>>144553100They're very much the same age now. And it was debatable prior desu. Anole runs a bar and prodigy is in college. They're all 18-20 now.
>>144553100Laura was the oldest of the New X-MenJubilee was the youngest of the 90's crewAnole was in Laura's class then deaged into Gabby's friend group now looks like he's back up to older teen age
>>144553370Laura wasnt the oldest,s he was about average.
