>Becomes more popular then Mickey Mouse>Gets his own cartoon serise> Appears in more Disney cartoons then any other character>Carl Barks makes him the number one (non Superhero) comics character in the world>By extension also influencing the likes of Osamu Tezuka> Which may or may not mean that he is (if even a little) important to Manga history >Orange Juice How the fuck does this happen?How the fuck does the one off Silly Symphony duck become that important to pop culture?
Simple.He's blue.
>>144607163>>Becomes more popular then Mickey Mousenot really
>>144607163He's a relatable everyman
>>144607233Yes really. I Mean I guess more people KNOW who Mickey is, but if you were to ask a random person who they preferred more, nine times out of ten there gonna say Donald.
>>144607163The juice is loose.>>144607243That's a good joke.
>>144607243>long duck
Was Donald's growth as a character natural? Like, was he a toon that people geinuely wanted more of?
>>144607243>t. 4chan
>>144607163He is a sailor. I think one of the the actual big pushes was in WW2 when Disney had his studio ask actual units what kind of personalized cartoon mascots they wanted, they mostly just wanted Donald Duck.Not to hard to see men who came home who felt he represented them in every way.>A loser from birth>Anger prone>But doing his damndest even in trying times.
>>144607272This. I seriously think WWII is what cemented Donald as more than just Mickey's short tempered friend.Even his character to this day can relate to a lot of boys and young men. He fails, fails, fails, and fails more. But despite it all, he gets back up again. He continues to love his poorly behaved nephews, his stingy greedy uncle, and faces a world that seems against him at all times simply because he cannot quit.It's really just a classic case of an underdog.
Who was better, Barks or Rosa?
>>144607163Donald was allowed to have a personality that isn't just 'nice and pleasant guy'
Donald had a really, really, really, really, rreeeallllyy big....?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFw-V_LelRg
>>144607387>Public Domain Diary >Disney Cartoon from 1938Your practically dancing with the sun at this point.Anyways, kino as fuck short. Disney cartoons aren't laugh out loud funny but man are they charming and fun.
>>144607251I've been needing more Donald reaction images/gifs. Thanks for the freebie.
>>144607163Europe made this happen
>>144607163walt’s need to treat mickey like a pampered celebrity figure/j-pop idol lee to this
>>144607710No. It definitely was America, and if we wanna play ball, South America too.Europe's influence on the Fuck came later on.
>>144607724>J-pop idol Mickey MouseGod damn you Barto I'm gone for a week and I'm already aroused.
>>144607726Oh yeah, rest of the world too, you know cap on made alor of Donald games, also haha you said fuck
>>144607724Yeah but we gotta put ourselves in the shoes of Walt back in the late 40's. They clearly ran out of good scenarios to give the Mouse (in the shorts that is) and Donald and Goofy were making a big splash with audiences (not even mentioning other studios like WB and MGM's toons skyrocketing in popularity). Mickey was a vital part of the very early years of the Golden age (just don't tell that to /tv/), but his potential was dried up. It made sense at the time to migrate him into the mascot role. The thing is we have hindsight now.
>>144607753>also haha you said fuckFuck..Wait no fuck! Wait, shit fuck-FUCK!
>>144607448Dolan Duck was from a simpler time....
>>144607233Nigga he's more popular then Mickey everywhereEven in the US where Mickey is more known for being the most merchandisable face but is not the most popular
>Donald more popular then Mickey MouseSilence, Finland.
>>144607794Go back Rudish.
>>144607233Anon, please explain...?
>>144607762What I don't get is why Mickey didn't get naturally moved into a more masterly role in the aftermath of that sort of development. House of Mouse uses him perfectly. He's the MC, he's the guy running the show, he's the guy who has to do the public things and the not-so-public things to keep the Disney Empire running. It feels like a role in which he actually gets to be a character, a fun character, but doesn't seem sanctimonious or hollow.Man, fuck, you know who Mickey is? Mickey is the Nick Fury of all of Disney. Mickey is the one who keeps it all running behind the scenes. THAT is something you could do with The Mouse that would be fun and wouldn't cheapen him. There's a story there, maybe a lot of stories.If you're not going to take the European route, if you're committed to a more "corporate" understanding of Mickey, there it is.
Are you guys excited for the evil Mickey and evil Donald that will be in Seth Rogen's Darkwing Duck fighting the 12 year old nonbinary kween?
>>144607825>you're committed to a more "corporate" understanding of Mickey, there it is.Alot of people just don't care about the Mickey comics unfortunately. And this is coming from a certified Duckbro. Those euro stories will always be dismissed because...Le evil boring Mickey Mouse.>Mickey is the one who keeps it all running behind the scenes. THAT is something you could do with The Mouse that would be fun and wouldn't cheapen him. There's a story there, maybe a lot of stories.I actually think this could be a perfect concept for Mickey. It can even be used for public Domain stuff. You can have Mickey be a show runner for a big budget program, like Kermit from that really good 2010s ABC Muppets show. Really, just make Mickey a slightly more optimistic Kermit. It fits Mickeys admittedly vague...everything.As long as they avoid the whole "evil corporate douchebag" trope, I think you could have a semi decent toon right there.Public Domain fag's, take notes.
>>144607854The..the...the what?????
>>144607854>Disney unironically pulling a Velma
>>144607163Why can’t Mickey have a personality like Donald and Goofy do?
>>144607334Pretty much this. People had an easier time identifying with the injustices Donald faced in a daily basis.
>>144607870Because HES THE FACE OF OUR BRAND!!!>t. Jew-I mean Iger
>>144607448Would Goofy and Horace Horsecollar be a fun mirror of Donald and Gladstone's rivalry over Daisy?
>>144607870I mean, he has a personality, the issue is people don't find it interesting.
>>144607862> Public Domain fag's, take notes.No thanks, I’ll just make a shitty horror game.
Why doesn't /co/ male their own Mickey shit if we care so much?>>144607881Yes. Also, you bringing up Horace has made me wonder why they don't pair up Mickey and old Horsecollar anymore. Horace has the snippy attitude you could bounce right off of Mickey's heroism.
>>144607891Actually I'll just make tranny porn with anti capalist messaging.
>>144607762So Mickey ain’t interesting anymore even in the nowadays huh? FunnyOswald would’ve had a lot more potential than Mickey himself lmao>>144607862>>144607825So Mickey would be a wonderful nice guy who at least still can be a hero but id like the ceo of a big business? Alright
>>144607906The only thing Oswald has is the history surrounding him. He's just an early Mickey.
Adding on the whole nice guy ceo Mickey thing, make Pete apart of a shadowy cabal or some shit.And do some goofy (pun intended) Liquid snake shit with Osawld.I'll take my millions of dollars.
>>144607233Shut up Mickey, you suck
>>144607892>they don't pair up Mickey and old Horsecollar anymoreDid they ever? It never crossed my mind but that could be pretty fun, like a more subdued Mickey and Donald pairing with less hot-headedness
>>144607331Hard to say, I enjoy Rosa's stories more, his attention to detail and his humor. But Barks invented almost half of the characters in Duckburg so as a writer he was arguable better, to create so many iconic characters that shape the comics world for a century
>>144607949Sorry. I'm comic brain. Gottfredson paired them up all the time, and I know Roisel did for his Zombie Coffee one shot.In the toons they really didn't partner up in any way admittedly. I mean, sometimes but not for anything serious obviously.
>>144607916But considering epic Mickey his own character could be open to the idea of being a genius who could be seen as a nobody, you know?
>>144607331Not sure who's better, but Rosa made my favorite story
>>144607966True.Can't use that when it comes to public domain domain though. What you could do is make Oswald a grumpy father archetype. He's first cartoon "Poor Papa" portrayed him as a father. You can do some fun stuff with that too (and I know Epic Mickey to a degree does make him father, what with all the bunny children).
>>144607163It's really from the dark
>>144607331Rosa wrote the Life and Times series and those books made me feel things I hadn't felt in a long time. Might be nostalgia but I genuinely consider them to be among the greatest comics of all time
>>144607960I'd say Barks made the funnest stories, and was obviously the most important out of the two (he laid the groundwork for everything). But Rosa used the world to it's fullest potential, and really brought out the true intricacies of Duckburg.If you asked Rosa though, he'd say Barks was better. Kek.
>>144607981>>144607331Prime Scrooge's fight scenes impressed me so much as a kid
>>144607981The Life and Times serise made me really emotional desu. Shit really got me for some reason. Even one of my friends (who hates anything Disney) said he got a bit connected to the characters. Rosa is a comic legend.
>>144607974Oh that’s a good one too, an old man with experience
Guys. Ima be honest. I love classic Disney shit, and I love Mickey and Donald.Does this make me a Disney adult?
>>144607994>>144607998Seeing these key defining moments in young Scrooge feels so good
>>144607916The one thing Oswald has is he kept his personality and snark, even under the eyes of Disney itself, and so far mostly being used for the games has kept him that way Oswald is pretty much what people want Mickey to still be but he can’t be now
>>144607964Ah, well, I read the comics too but I've never noticed the authors. They're mostly Duckberg ones so I don't get to read a lot of Mickey either
>>144607862>Alot of people just don't care about the Mickey comics unfortunately. And this is coming from a certified Duckbro. Those euro stories will always be dismissed because...Le evil boring Mickey Mouse.ngl i feel like they just haven’t been distributed well enough; like it’s one thing for fantagraphics to distribute mickey comics, it’s another for marvel (a publisher they own btw) to do so
What's the best Donald toon?My vote is Duck Pimples.
>>144607969The second one is my favoriteSo damn comfy
>>144607163he shoulda been the company mascot
>>144608073Why? So he could have his personality massacred?
>I like the way he waddles, and I like to hear him talk!>And when somebody makes him mad...>QUACK QUACK QUACK>Oh he can sqawk!https://youtu.be/6-j8D_nwaFs?si=21whEELqNai1m8-L
There's not enough Donald video essays. Why?
>>144608031I can't believe how long it's taken for Disney/Fantagraphics to publish the Euro/Topolino stuff internationally. Disney really is the most retarded conglomerate of all fucking time.
>>144608148All the real stories are extremely old, and most of them aren't that deep. I guess you could explore some connections between Barks and Rosa stories but overall they are very simple adventure stories
>>144607163>>Gets his own cartoon seriseIf you think of Ducktales, it's ironic that he was only a minor character there, appearing in eight episodes. However, Donald got his own two series, which unfortunately did not become popular. The second Donald series Disney doesn't want to admit it exists. But you're forgetting that Donald got his own movie called The Three Caballeros to serve as America's ambassador to Latin America in World War II. >>Carl Barks makes him the number one (non Superhero) comics character in the worldYes, but Donald also became a superhero as Duck Avenger. Thanks to the Italians.
>>144607331None.Al Taliaferro is the best.
>>144607331Both, but I also like Al Taliaferro, William Van Horn, Romano Scarpa, Guido Martina, Carpi, Vicar, Cavazzano, Alessandro Sisti, Andrea Freccero, Arild Midthun, Kari Korhonen, etc. There are just a lot of authors who really made Donald Duck very popular. Although it all goes to one man, Walt Disney, he even preferred Donald to Mickey.
>>144608246>If you think of Ducktales, it's ironic that he was only a minor character there, appearing in eight episodesNope. I'm talking about the serise of Golden Age shorts.>But you're forgetting that Donald got his own movie called The Three Caballeros to serve as America's ambassador to Latin America in World War II.Ahh I knew i was forgetting something.
They used to show this one for Christmas in Denmark, byt then they changed it because of guns. Bastardshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l49a9z8xBL0
>In Europe Donald got all the honors for his 90th birthday, a lot of comics were dedicated to him>In America, Donald got a three-minute classic short with a terrible background and selling toys just to make more money for DisneyWhat went wrong that Europeans celebrate Donald Duck more than America?
>>144607331Rosa's stories are more memorable personally, but they wouldn't exist without Barks in the first place so Barks was better.
>>144608258>Although it all goes to one man, Walt Disney, he even preferred Donald to Mickey.I guess that is true, but let's be frank, I'd say Donald's creation goes to a lot of artists and writers who worked on him throughout the years. And did Walt ever say he " preferred" Donny over Mick? I mean the only direct quote I remember Walt Jokingly saying is that "Donald is the studios problem child". Something like that atleast.
>>144608267>Nope. I'm talking about the serise of Golden Age shorts.Oh, it makes sense. Yes, Donald's classic shorts during the 1930s and 1940s were the best. Especially under the direction of Jack King. Donald's Crime is my favorite.
>>144608286>1. Americans really don't like Disney right now>2. Nobody wants to get called a Dianey Adult>3. Other countries outside of the U.S.A have notoriously gotten the better treatment when it came to Disney properly distributing their classic cartoons>4. The Euros have much more respect for comics as a whole, and they know Donald best for his comic stories.
>>144608295God that one is hood kino. Donald having a mental crisis over taking Huey, Duey and Lueys money is weirdly entertaining.
>>144607994>has fought Teddy Roosevelt twice
>>144608335>two of the most red pilled based people on planet earth>Teddy Roosevelt>and Scrooge McDuck
Donald pay denbts t. Scrooge
>>144608359....Skwooge pls.
>>144607233Mickey suffered for decades because he had to be safe corporate mascot with no personality. He was just a pair of ears to slap on merchandise. It allowed Donald and Goofy to both completely eclipse him in popularity.It's only the 2010s series that let Mickey have more of a character again, and people love that show partly because of that.
>>144608385Rudish shorts suck. If they weren't Mickey cartoons, barely anyone would care.
Would you date Donald Duck?
>>144608252Does anyone have the meme edit where Scrooge is threatening to send Donald to the deathstar?
>>144608429That....exists?
>>144608436Scrooge doesn't want the planet blown up since he has business interests there, so he warns them to abandon the ship since he's sent donald to deal with it, with the deathstar exploding with donald adjusting his hat, i saw it ages ago and haven't since.
>>144608444I've never seen that one before. I've seen many Donald comic edits but I definitely know I never saw anything like that. Sounds funny though.
>>144607163You forgot that he's also the most powerful being in the Final Fantasy universe.
>>144608491>Niggers at square made a spell so powerful it changes the entire game when it comes to the FF spell systems>So naturally Donald Duck is the only one to use itLet's all be honest.This is Nomura's world, and we're all just living in it.
>>144608491>>144608519Curious but does playing KH make me a Disney adult?
>>144608491.......You think Rosa knows about Kingdom Hearts?>>144608525No. Infact Kingdom Hearts fans are known for hating Disney. I bet you can count the amount of "Disney fans" who like KH on your hand.
>>144608525>>144608002>D-D-D-DDD-DISNEY ADULT!!! AHHHHHH!!!!!
>>144608525Enjoying classic disney can help you enjoy kingdom hearts, a lot of retards will say the disney stuff doesn't matter but the worlds/films selected do play into the main narrative of kingdom hearts as well. Don't let out of context meme's kill the idea of the series for you.
>>144608525>>144608542"Disney Adult" is a frame of mind. Don Rosa has spent a fuck ton amount of time thinking about Donald Duck and Scrooge McDuck and such. But it would feel improper to call him a Disney Adult. I doubt he cares about Marvel shit and Star Wars shit and going to the Disney parks every year and etc.I mean fuck I wouldn't even consider Walt Disney himself to be a "Disney Adult".
>>144607969where can i download and/or read these?
>>144608294He probably never did. It's just something duck fans like to say.
>>144608565That's what I find so annoying about the term though. I feel like most people can tell who an ACTUAL Disney Adult is (hint: they usually have an Instagram account). But despite that, I've been called a Disney Adult because I like everything about Mickey, Donald and Goofy (there my favorite cartoon characters desu), and I enjoy alot of their classic film catalog. It's annoying because it implies that I'm one of those Disney cultists like you explained. What's even worse is that now that everyone is afraid of being a "Disney Adult", even more people won't experience the great comic and golden age stuff M, D and G have. I dunno, I admit I'm pretty salty. It just kind of sucks.
>>144608565I don't even think Rosa is even really a big fan of the Donald shorts either (could be wrong). It seems he's just hyper obsessed with the Barks comics.Also wow Rosa really is autistic.
>>144608593I'm currently learning Japanese and in my class is an old guy who is obsessed with classical music. He doesn't watch anime, or read manga, or play Japanese games, etc. He doesn't know what Cowboy Bebop or Neon Genesis is.I mean apparently he likes Japan enough to learn the language but I feel it would be wrong to call him a "weeaboo". In the same way I feel some people can be fascinated with Disney stuff without being a "Disney adult".
>>144607254>long duck>long duck dong
>>144607243>He's a relatable everymanI thought that was Goofy's schtick
>>144608115I like the way he waddles also... when he shakes that cute duck ass it makes me diamonds. in fact anytime hes moving that ass makes me diamonds. HHNNNNGGG
>>144608252based murder donald
>>144608565got to wonder id rosa or barks ever drew some porn comics of any of the characters.. you know those secret drawings like the ones supposedly in the infamous disney vault, stuff animators drew while animating disney movies and cartoons. the porn that never existed but is rumored to? would love to see one of these guys' hidden stash get discovered and plastered online. bet theres some comic of scrooge roto-rootering donalds ass as payment for donalds debts.
>>144608593I wouldn’t make those people bother youPeople don’t get Disney Adult. Liking anything Disney made isn’t a “Disney Adult” that’s fucking retarded. It’s when your entire identity is Disney, when you buy into Disney timeshares and go to D23, when you aren’t critical of anything they do and are a “fan” of all their contentLiking Donald Duck comics or even being very hard into that IP isn’t a “Disney Adult”, that’s being a Donaldist
>>144608679>Donaldchads that see the world through a based point of viewVS...>>144608424>Nu-Tales gay Tumbler Fandom being gayThe true duality of Duckfans.
>>144608294>And did Walt ever say he " preferred" Donny over Mick?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYhzZ9Dwqn8Walt Disney once stated that he preferred Donald to Mickey, someone posted his statement on 4chan earlier. So it's not a lie, besides, watch that documentary I sent you.
>>144608676Daisy, Minnies been calling you for weeks. She's worried.
>>144608565But Don Rosa hates Disney (the company, not Walt Disney and classic Disney). Pic related.
>>144608735Why is Rosa such a chad?
>>144608424>Would you date Donald Duck?date? no way. plow that ass and leave? sure!
>>144608723Once you realize Donald is for gay Latino birbs you never go back
>>144608429It was more that Donald killed his uncle in an unofficial comic. I am not joking.
>>144608754Silence! Based Duckbros will fight back against the lesbian Latino bird women!
>>144608754Nu-Tale fans aren't real Donald fans.
>>144608754>Donald is for gay Latino birbsYou forget that Donald has his girlfriends Daisy and Reginella (and more), Jose has Rosinha, and Panchito has Clara Cluck.
>>144608768>He thinks Cabsfags are Ducktalesfags
>>144608755>It was more that Donald killed his uncle in an unofficial comic. I am not joking.you mean.. this comic?
Who else has a massive crush on Daisy?
>>144608534Well it has Disney characters though, and the whole thing involves Disney movies and characters. I mean honestly I like to see them getting into making their own unique toon characters and what not. Seeing Mickey and the gang though getting into it is still a good idea and the rest yeah, but still.Branding out the whole movies for corporational stuff is weird.>>144608558Thanks!>>144608565Yeah I see what you mean though: when you think of a Disney adult, it’s like someone obsessed with it so much it’s part of their lives a little too much.You can love Disney but not too much. I love the comics, KH, and the movies but not Disneyland itself and the corporation.
>>144608699Barks drew OC duck girls with exposed tits before and you can find that art easily, and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen some very suggestive stuff from Rosa before but can’t find it atmBoth almost definitely drew porn of the characters, but to what extend and which characters got them hard is their secret
>>144608778No, this comic I mean. This was drawn and written by Don Rosa before he wrote and drew his comics.
>>144608790Me, but Daisy from Donald's Diary is the best for me.
>>144608819>You can love Disney but not too much. I love the comics, KH, and the movies but not Disneyland itself and the corporation.This. The only thing I like about Disney is comics and cartoons about Mickey, Donald, Goofy and their gang, as well as some video games. I also love Disney Afternoon and Disney classic movies, I don't care about the rest. Yes, I watched it, but I'm not into it, that's just how I feel.
>>144608831oh.. well I like the comic I posted better.. it has a more violent ending.
>>144607191Nice Dilbert reference.
>>144607331Never cared for Don Rosa much. It always had this like otaku fanboy quality to it. Barks's stories always feel spontaneous and organic. Also the simplicity of his cartooning is top notch.>>144607163It's because he has the sweetest disposition.
>>144608778Please give me context on what this is>>144608831Lmao>>144608860Damn straight
>>144608824im not talking bout some duck tits I mean full on porn with complete sexual interactions. im sure one of them 2 has some secret stash. all artists develop some sort of fetish for their artwork at some point.
>>144608903>Please give me context on what this isits some comic was posted online a while back from I have no idea where.. basically donald is tired of being scrooge's bitch and pretty much blows him away. not sure if its safe enough for this sensitive board, its mostly violent theres no like sex or porn.
>>144607774>Dolan was 13 years ago. Time flies man.
>>144608879>it has a more violent ending.But there is no Daffy Duck in that comic like in the Return to Duckburg Place comic where the father of Donald's nephews is revealed to be Donald's eternal rival, Daffy Duck.
>>144608925I know this comic. In the end, does Donald kill Daisy because she was with Gladstone, just as Donald kills Gladstone? Fucking based!
ok this one has some... stuff.. I forgot about.
>>144608790Daisy is not only a whore but also a unhinged woman. So get out.
>>144608309I am a Euro and I hate Disney too, but that doesn't mean I hate Donald
>>144608944something like that, he kills them both after discovering them together then blames scrooge cause scrooge fired him and he came home early to discover them, and goes back to kill him.
>>144608969ok I forgot he survived, but still. donald went total psycho on everyone. been a while since I actually read this one lol
>>144608593Like that anon said, being a Disney Adult is a state of mind. At the end of the day it's no different from other hyper consumerist fans who give normal fans a bad rep. The key is not having it define your life.I've also noticed that the people that get called Disney Adults actually have a pretty shallow concept of what they obsess over. I personally know morr about the studio and it's history then most people but just saying the Lion King is my favorite movie shouldn't get me labeled a Disney Adult because I have a life outside of that.
>>144608950Woo-oo
>>144608909What I was trying to say with that is the answer is very likely yes they likely drew actual porn with the established characters, we will never see it though and never know for sure
>>144608999if they did do any actual porn comics, I am sure they will get discovered eventually.. unless its some family member that doesnt want to tarnish the legacy and destroys them never making any acknowledgement they existed. who knows.
Donald Duck was born to be Napoleon. Why doesn't Disney make a movie about it?
>>144607243What House of Mouse episode is that?
>>144607862>Kermit from that really good 2010s ABC Muppets showI also liked it but I think you and I are alone here. I didn't think people were ready for Kermit and Piggie to call it quits as a couple
>>144608455>Image>Now wondering which comic series is more popular/autistic in terms of fans and/or insane writers; Sonic or Donald?
>>144608754
>>144607882Nice guys finish last. I wonder if the problem is people are just too jaded, now more than ever, to find an upbeat helpful guy who is an optimist engaging.
>>144607163 Donald Duck is relatable, Mickey Mouse became too safe and corporate to the point where many would question if he even has a personality anymore.Such is the nature of corporate greed; it sands off the edges of once daring ideas.
>>144610352>Mickey Mouse became too safe and corporate to the point where many would question if he even has a personality anymore.Mickey has his own personality, but in the comics. Italian comics (Topolino) did a great job of raising Mickey to a higher level, the problem is that most of the world, especially America, doesn't see it, because they hate Mickey a lot because he represents a corrupt company called Disney. It is necessary to clearly separate the character Mickey from the mascot Mickey, because they are not the same person. I will not mention that Mickey Mouse as a detective has a special edition of comics with dark elements called Mickey Mystery. Except for Epic Mickey, Americans would never have made such a thing, at least in recent decades.Everyone identifies with Donald, because Donald describes all of us.
Quack
>>144608723True Donald chad fans make him an emperor and leader. It's just that Donald was made to be a leader.
>>144609943Hmm...true fans of Ze Carioca know who his true love is.
>>144611226>who his true love isMay Duck.
Don't forget, Donald is canonically the strongest mage in the Square Enix Universe
>>144607191da ba dee daba guy
People find Donald's voice funny whereas they find Mickey's annoying
>>144607854>evil Mickey and evil Donald that will be in Seth Rogen's Darkwing DuckWhat?What?Where the fuck did this info come from?
>>144608651I think you mean George Geef
They should just make a cartoon called “Donald Duck VS The World” that shows he can dish it out but can’t take it. Make him go up against kids, police officers, ants, bees, the works.Imagine how funny it would be to see Donald snap and slam down a book about how to make a pipe bomb or some shit, he’s furiously throwing chemicals together only for him to knock it over by accident. Then he just flips the whole table and just puts a stick of dynamite through a roll of toilet paper, running out of his house yelling like a banshee. When he goes to throw it, it arcs over the roof of his enemy’s house and he runs to the other side to watch it blow, only for the roll to keep rolling and ending up right where he is before it goes off.
>>144607331Barks higher output had him end up with more stories of lower quality, but he also had higher swings, too. That's how I feel about it.I personally like Rosa a lot, though I really dislike the Rosa fanboyism that some of the scandinavian duck comic fans suffer from, where it is "Barks and his true successor Rosa are the only true duck comic greats". This despite the fact that Barks didn't even like Rosa's work and explicitly preferred a lot of other duck artists, and his 'chosen successor' was William van Horn.The italian duck scene is massive compared to the others and has produced tons of good stuff. The homegrown scandinavian scene has some really good artists like Midthun who works with solid writers. One of my personal favorites, Carlos Mota(another artist, not writer) mostly works in this space too, despite not being scandinavian.
>>144608444I vaguely remember that, wasn't that a screencap?
>>144608942>I'm such a fucking waste of space...The worst kind of loser.>Sob SobDonald's your average /r9k/ frequenter?
>>144607163He literally is the Daffy Duck to Mickey's more boring Bugs Bunny.
>>144609854Nah, we wouldn't split Mickey or Minnie up. Just how kermit is characterized really.
>>144609922I'd say Donald has had more autistic fans throughout the like...Well, last 80 years or so. Sonic though is much more popular with younger Millennials and Gen Z, so I'm terms of most comic fans now, I'd say most are more likely to gravitate towards Sonic stuff.
>>144610201Maybe. Honestly a lot of people throw around personality, which I don't think is that big of an issue (we've had Incredibly optimistic in peppy characters, before hoard popular anyway). The actual problem is that, one; Mickey is a Mascot for a massive conglomerate that is now more then ever on bad standing with not just consumers, but with people in politics as well. Mickey is a tinted symbol. Two; Mickey doesn't really have as much content as Don or Goof have (if we're just ignoring the euro comics). I mean most kids would much rather watch anime or Digital Sircus or some shit like that, then a bunch of old rubber hose cartoons from 90 years ago.
>>144611226Ok I'm about to ask something retarded. How does feet work in the Disney Bird universe? One character can have actual bird feet and the next can have humanoid feet. The fuck!?!
>>144614354Generally, the more human the frame, the more likely the feet are human too. Not always the case, but mostly true.Gyro Gearloose has had humanoid feet since his introduction, Dickie Duck is generally the same(though the fact that her feet are always in her shoes have some artists color her legs in orange, implying duck feet), and most of the really feminine looknig ducks have human feet, as do most very human looking male ducks.There are some weird cases of a character starting out with duck feet and then later having human feet. Lyla Lay being an example.Note that she still had human legs, it was just the feet that was duck feet
>>144611605>Kingdom hearts (multi?)universefixed that for you
>>144610931Who made this art? It's actually really fucking good.
>>144609616Because there a bunch of filthy cowards.
I really want an official comic staring Donald and Oswald once in this lifetime
>>144607163Years of studying the occult and arcane will do that to a duck. Apparently.https://youtu.be/67TH80xj_FQ
>>144615794How could that dynamic even work?
>>144607233Mickey's the literal face of the company, seeing how his silhouette is the Disney logo, but in terms of having an emotional impact on people Donald and Goofy utterly eclipse him
>>144617019Kek.
>>144617019Donald, no.
>>144617374You know this isn't the first time it happens either :I
>>144617019Sorry I had to
>>144608651Maybe if youre retarded.
>>144614094maybe that is more likely perhaps it's been a long while
>>144617560Did you make that thread for this one joke?Kind of based ngl.
>>144607994That scene looks like a reference to the Biblical figure Samson and his tearing down of the Philistine arena.
>>144614180Donald and Daffy are the best characters overall. You can use them wherever you want and never get bored. Although the interaction and rivalry between Daffy and Bugs was fun (although I prefer the interaction between Daffy and Porky), I never found the interaction between Mickey and Donald funny and entertaining. Even in the comics, Mickey's interactions fit better with Goofy than with Donald. Donald's interaction fits better with Goofy (see classic shorts and Kingdom Hearts). Funnily enough, because Minnie's interactions with Daisy work so well.>>144617019>>144617560I'm not a fan of Donald from Mickey Mouse Works and House of Mouse, but it had some good killer moments.
>>144609774Donald's Rocket Ruckus (Mickey Mouse Works) and Music Day (House of Mouse).>>144615100From Instagram, from frankchoartist.
>>144607870He has a personality... In the euro and south american comics. You know how Euro!Donald is a superspy and superhero? Like that.Euro!Mickey is an adrenalin junkie, a globetrotter adventurer and detective who stays in Mousetopolis just enough to keep his relationship with Minnie before fucking off to find a mistery to solve. He's a martial arts master that gets to fight Pete in hand to hand combat. He time travels under the orders of two scientists to uncover historic mysteries. He has a roomate who looks like an alien but is actually a hyperevolved human from the future.
>>144619660Funny too is that Donald and Daffy started out pretty similarly personality wise. Both started out as incredibly silly and eccentric characters, and gradually became more and more angry and bombastic fellas.
>>144619660Looking at this image really does raise the question...Who is the better Duck? Donald, or Daffy?
>>144619973>Donald, or Daffy?Tough question, but I'd say both and it's hard to separate them. However, strictly speaking, Donald is the best in comics, and Daffy is the best in cartoons. >>144619964True, only Donald immediately became what we know him to be, while wacky Daffy lasted longer. It was only after the Second World War that Daffy became what we know today.
>>144614038>and his 'chosen successor' was William van Horn.Huh, source for this? That's really interesting, I've never even heard of William van Horn before!
>>144620030While I do admittedly prefer the Disney cartoons over the Loony Tunes shorts, Daffy on an objective level is better when it comes to short cartoons.
>>144607825You've just described Kermit.
>>144608385Yeah, even in Kingdom Hearts Mickey is just...whatever. Like they know they just HAVE to play it safe with him compared to Donald and Goofy.
>>144608525As someone who's been a fan since the series started, I would say no. Liking the Disney Renaissance films (which in most of the games is what they focused on) certainly helps with appeal, but the main crux of KH is its main story and all of that is Nomura's fever dream of a wild ride.
>>144607854Damn Jews really do ruin everything they touch
Do you think Donald ever raped Daisy once?Serious question.https://youtu.be/6k01DIVDJlY?si=9yaxWkuN8ZgL-CY0
>>144620254No, they are fictional characters
>>144620335Your laaaaaaaaaaaammmmmee.
>>144619973donald is the best for sexy duck asses.
>>144620254>Do you think Donald ever raped Daisy once?Yes, many times.
>>144620492Pathetic!
>>144607854>Seth Rogen's Darkwing Duck fighting the 12 year old nonbinary kween?WHAT?! Gosalyn is nonbinary?! What it is?! Honestly, this is the first time I've heard this. Are they really normal?!
>>144620254Why are all the cute animals so awful?
>>144620641Everyday Donald becomes more and more based.
>>144620650It’s not Gosalyn, she won’t even really be in the new show
>>144607243God I love long bitches.
>>144621126>God I love long bitches.
>>144621112>It’s not Gosalyn, she won’t even really be in the new showReally?! What's a Darkwing Duck reboot without important characters?! Seriously who writes that and who allows it? I don't understand at all.
>>144620030War changes a man.
Bump.
>>144620254Sometimes the devil wins.
>>144608651
>>144620072Van Horn worked together with Barks to bring his last few comic to life, and Barks loved his artstyle(hence why he picked him for the job).This is from an old Barks interview(I think the page that has it is dead, but it might be archived:>Sébastien Durand(french interviewer): You have written a new story that will be published soon (Horsing Around with History). Did you choose the artist that will draw it ?>Carl Barks: Yes, I chose Bill Van Horn who lives in Vancouver to do the artwork. His drawing style is very Disney like. It looked quite a bit like my own drawing and his way of staging things is close to mine. I just wrote out the script with a typewriter and had been trying to sketch it out and he got the feeling of what I was thinking of. He would read that little blurb and come up with a sketch just like I thought it in my head.>SD: When you receive his drawings, can you resist correcting a few things ?>CB: I had very few things to correct. He and I went over his pencil drawings quite thoroughly. I went over the whole way though once before I even got to thinking: "Well I have got to correct some things. " >So I went back and looked at two or three small situations that required a tiny bit of changing. It could have gone through and make a successful story without my correcting at all. He was that good at interpreting what I wanted.
>>144623730Also from the same interview, Barks on other duck comic artists he likes:>Sébastien Durand: Who are the Disney artists today that you would consider as having the same feelings as you had for the characters? Van Horn is one of them, of course, but who are the others ?>Carl Barks: Those guys in Italy and a number of people working for Egmont. They are marvelous artists. They are doing much better drawings of the ducks and other Disney characters than I was able to do. Daan Jippes for example has been very good doing Disney style for many years. Vicar who comes from Chile is excellent and there are a number of them up there in the Nordic countries and down in Spain. Those guys are superb artists.
>>144623742And... Barks on Don Rosa(this one was a correction sent to a german magazine)>This is to clear up possible confusion in the German media.>I stated that I don't like my work rewritten or see a reason for it. This includes sequels and the recent history of ScroogeNote: this is him talking about Life and Times, which was fairly recent at the time. Considering how much of Rosa's catalogue was Barks sequels, and Barks didn't like sequels to his work(seemingly much preferring freer hands, like Scarpa and Van Horn would do), Barks didn't favor Rosa's stories much.>This does not imply that I feel that Don Rosas' version of my characters should not be printed.>On the contrary, if they sell, more should be printed. The point I made was that I don't care for that "style". As stated, I prefer works of artists such as Daan Jippes and William Van Horn who have a look and style on model, on character and in the Disney tradition.>Although Rosas' work is not my personal preference, I defend the right for it to be printed.For context:>This press information is to clear up an inaccuracy with a journalist. He felt that Carl Barks had said, besides having a static underground look, Rosas' work should not be printed.
>>144623816Barks preferred Brigitta as Scrooge's love interest to his invented Goldie. Even though she was invented by Romano Scarpa, Barks admitted that she would fit perfectly into his universe.
>>144620644>Pathetic!sorry, im not into black asses...
>>144624495>no way fag: the characterWhat's she got that Goldie's tragic love doesn't?
>>144624624Goldie took Scrooge's gold by trick, while Brigitta loves Scrooge with all her heart and has no interest in Scrooge's wealth. I'm telling this for Goldie from Barks perspective, not Don Rosa.
>>144623527Dolan NOO!!
>>144607163>Orange Juicehwat
>>144624607Yes you are Bugs
>>144608929Dolan feels way older then that wtf
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>>144625066>he doesn't know
>>144607233bruh
>>144607163Donald actually has a personality. Mickey is the most boring and bland character Disney has.
>>144608593Do Disney Adults even care about Kingdom Hearts
>>144616809Both are sarcastic fucks, Oswald is more easily annoyed while Donald also gets easily annoyed but will get more into rage over it
>>144629572Disney adults only care about the theme park and movies they grew up withThe only people who like kingdom hearts are weebs and obviously the japanese
>>144630129You meant this for >>144629264
>>144630129weebs care about Kingdom Hearts? I thoguht they only cared about seasonal shounen shit and rap music now.
>>144607854>>144607865>>144607868>>144611665>>144620226>>144620650Here's the previous leak thread:>>144539733
Would you they duck?
>>144630897>The Ducktales reboot was originally supposed to be based on the Carl Barks and Don Rosa comics and earlier plans would have Scrooge and Donald as the main characters>Disney turned it down because they wanted nephews and Webby to be the main characters because "they are cartoons for children and the main characters should be children">Nu-Ducktales became a rip-off of Gravity Falls and the Disney Afternoon Marvel cinematic with a terrible ending and bears no resemblance to the comics or the OG Ducktales>There is The Legend of The Three Caballeros which was supposed to be shown on the Disney channels unfortunately Disney didn't want to air it because they didn't want the alleged "Ducktales competition">Lot3c had everything better than DT17 even focused on Donald the most, unfortunately most people don't know about it so we will never have a second season>it did show on Disney XD but at the time when Disney XD's viewership dropped off and Disney still denies that the show exists>The Darkwing Duck reboot was supposed to be a sequel to Nu-Ducktales, but due to poor ratings and Angosen's tweet, it was given to another man, Seth Rogen>The alleged Darkwing Duck reboot to be called Duckie will be like a so-called Darkwing Duck sequel with old man Drake and some girl teenage OC without Launchpad, Gosalyn and the Fearsome Five>The 90th anniversary of Donald Duck was with a crappy Donald shortSeriously, does Disney really want us to burn that company down with all the crap they do?! Everything that is beautiful should be completely destroyed?! You know what, I don't care about all that anymore, I'll turn to the European Donald Duck comics because at least there's no vomit and nonsense like the American Disney does. And no LGBT or Woke propaganda. I wish Disney California all the worst to fail completely! Fuck Disney!
>>144628605This thread image is getting a a lot of milage.
>>144630704The only people who really care about Kingdom Hearts is people who grew up with the first two games and Hsck and Slash enjoyers. I wouldn't say many FF fans like the serise either.
>>144633118To be frank, it's utterly soul crushing how awful Disney is. I've always loved Mickey, Donald and Goofy. I loved watching the old cartoons, reading the comics, playing the games and what not. If it weren't for these icons I wouldn't have ever taken art as seriously as I did. So it's asolutely insane to see this company brun everything to the ground like this. I truly mean this when I say that Disney deserves everything that's coming to them.
>>144621126look up 'keep your hands off of eizouken!' one of the main characters is a pale tall alpha bitch
>>144607879See also Porky Pig. He was also kind of the Mickey of WB but he kind of fell out of favor for Bugs and Daffy because nobody liked writing him because he was just kind of a boring nice guy.
>>144624495Based, she is great. Love that comic when her and Goldie team up.
>>144607794Train coming in so fast it has to lean to the side not to go off the rails.
>>144608819The people bitching about Disney in Kingdom Hearts are FF weebs that don't realize that Disney owns all the OCs made for Kingdom Hearts.
>>144607163The directors of the golden age Disney cartoons straight up said that they werent allowed to use Mickey at all after a certain point in order to keep his character "clean" so no edgy or mean gags with Mickey after a while, that's why they ended up using Donald and Goofy a lot more during the 40s and 50s before they stopped making shorts WB on the other hand was more than happy with allowing the directors to do wathever the fuck they wanted with Bugs during the late 40s and 50s so Bugs Bunny ended up being in way mroe shorts than Mickey ever was despite coming out over a decade after Mickey
>>144636363Well also remember in the context of history Porky would have been the Mickey Mouse of that time.It’s less that they were more willing to let Bugs do anything but more like they were more willing to admit their Donald and Goofy aren’t just more interesting than their Mickey but also just should be the new stars now.
>relatable everyman with funny accent and vices who always seems stupider than the audience while not being stupid enough to make him unable for you to self-insertI wonder why.
>>144635581>Bridget's racist against asiansWow I like her now.