Is everyone just supposed to forget that she NUKED AN ENTIRE COUNTRY?Honestly what the fuck?
What color were the people in that country?
>>144663684>Is everyone just supposed to forget that she NUKED AN ENTIRE COUNTRY?DC stands for Doesn't do Continuity
>>144663698They were of terrorist descent.
Why is Lian a teenager?
>>144663684Oh sure Batman can give Talia al Ghul a pass for being a terrorist who fucked up Markovia because she's his baby mommaBut Roy can't do the same?
>>144663797Artists can't draw children. Lian is at most 10.>>144663826Has Batman given Talia a pass? She's been firmly in the villain camp for the last 20 years or so.
>>144663797Because the current DC timeline is utterly fucked.She was still born to Roy and Cheshire and lived with Roy when he was a Titan, but Cry for Justice didn't happen and instead she died in a different scenario, but she was actually kidnapped and kept in a lab until she escaped and wandered the world for years as a street urchin with her teleporting powers. And then she came to Gotham and was part of Catwoman's gang before being reunited with Roy. But Roy is still in his twenties even though his daughter who was born while Roy was already a superhero is now a teen. Don't think about it
>>144663844He literally let her escape justice at the end of Shadow War because it would have made Damian sad
>>144663857The entire Arrow family plus Batman and Nightwing are all acting like it's totally normal that she's there and casually objectifying Nightwing instead rotting in a cell in The Hague for the rest of her life.
>>144663684Namor abd the rest of the illuminati killed millions and yet we still sort of like them
I'm more surprised that DC is actually acknowledging that Dick and Roy have genuine history together and know each other well.
>>144663845She had some type of time warping ability, didn't she? So I guess she may have aged with her whole paradoxical travel
>>144663845She didn't have teleporting powersShe was teleported to another point in time every time she tried to reunite with her dadThat's why she ended up in the future and found OllieI think it had something to do with Parallax Hal
>>144664752Show me on the Titans franchise where Lobdell hurt you.
>>144663684Is her nuking a country still canon though?
>>144664960>>144664904Well which is it?
>>144663684And? She’s also an assassin who’s killed countless people.
>>144666798I can't recall if it's ever been brought up after the New 52. After DC Rebirth, the policy seems to be to "pick and choose" canon, so if asked I'm sure the writers would say no.
>>144667908It's like a big uncomfortable hole in the middle of their continuity. The Deathstroke run where Cheshire bombed Qurac has been referenced multiple times. They said Ravager knows Lian, but she was only hired to care for Lian because the first nanny (Quraci-American) didn't work out, and that Titans run has been referenced multiple times.Kind of similar to Deathstroke blowing up Bludhaven. The bombing has been referenced but not who did it. Nightwing and Deathstroke hate each other again but nobody bothered to explain why. It's a clusterfuck.>>144663705Devoid of Continuity.
>>144663844He treats her like Damian’s heckin wholesome mommy and acts like a cringy married couple having light bickers with her while Damian smirks at his “mom and dad” even though she literally murdered damian before to replace him with a brainwashed clone
>>144669473Qurac was also the place that Black Adam genocided so maybe this is there point where we step back and just say Marv Wolfman is an idiot. Nuking a country is a big fucking deal and even back then Marv treated it too blase so I don't fault other writers for not giving a shot and dropping it entirely.
>>144663684>>144669495Joshua Williamson wrote every comic that this thread is complaining about.
>>144669528>Qurac was also the place that Black Adam genocidedThat was Bialya. Qurac was a radioactive crater when Black Adam did his WWIII thing.
>>144669473>Kind of similar to Deathstroke blowing up Bludhaven. The bombing has been referenced but not who did it.But how could the bombing have happened if Bludhaven is clearly fine and not a radioactive wasteland full of mutants and government experiments like it was before the New 52?
>>144669553Well we're back to Marv Wolfman to being a fucking idiot then.It was never a good idea and that's why people don't touch it.
>>144669563Ask DC. In the City Boy mini from a few years ago Bludhaven still had PTSD from it.
>>144669580Shit take from someone who didn't know the difference between Qurac and Bialya. Marv created both Cheshire and Qurac, he had full right to do whatever he wanted with them.
>>144669563The same way people are alive again and yet are fully aware that they died in the previous continuity.
>>144669667It's absolutely true tho, Cheshire nuking a country is not a serious plot point.
>>144669725The problem was Wolfman never followed up on it. He was too busy glazing Deathstroke to follow up on the bombed out country and no other writer was going to waste time on it.
>>144669649>Check out the Final Crisis omnibusWait, I thought Bludhaven was nuked in INFINITE Crisis.
>>144669853It was, then again in Battle for Bludhaven. Then Darkseid skullfucked the corpse in Final Crisis.City Boy was about New Gods from Apokolips trying to use his powers to remake Earth in Darkseid's image. It's easier to just reference Final Crisis than reference all three titles. Or the editors are lazy and stupid.
>>144666612Right in the Dick
>>144663684>Cheshire is a terroristshe hot though
>>144663684The fact that DC crimefighters are so eager to team up with full blast 100% unrepentant criminals just because some writer thought that was a neat subversive idea makes them look like massive hypocrites. It's bad enough that Batman allows Catwoman to run loose. Then there's Harley & Ivy who are treated like they're unofficial JLA members even though both have killed hundreds of innocent people, then there's mass murderers like Cheshire (who also appears in 'Tec for another teamup), and all the time I'm asking why the fuck do these supposed heroes not arrest these people? Or if that's not an option, beat them until they're retarded?
>>144669725>Cheshire nuking a country is not a serious plot point.Why should we take anything that happens in these comics seriously if killing a million people is not serious? Why should we read them at all?
>>144663684Batman comics got really gay in the 90s and never recovered.
>>144663857Just like he let Catwoman get away with everything she stole while beating the absolute shit out of other thieves.
DC timeliness are a wonky clusterfuck where everything someone did both happened and didn't happen.
>>144663684>mass murderer>also a bad momIt fits
>>144670094That why writers choose to ignore it, because the colossal weight of her actions was clearly ignored by Marv himself.
>>144671842Marv ignored lots of things when it came to his merc characters.
>>144671842Marv never used Cheshire again after that arc ended. He was gone from DC Comics a few years later.I think the blame is less on Wolfman for having her set off a nuke and more on guys like Messner-Loebs and Dixon for using Cheshire like a generic low-rent villain instead of an internationally infamous terrorist.
>>144672589Loebs ignored it. Dixon didn't.
>>144663684And Barry Allen murdered the multiverse twice and almost murdered the multiverse several times after that. Barry Allen is still treated like a hero when his crimes are significantly worse than Cheshire's crimes.
>>144663684Two things on that page that show everything wrong with modern cape comics, especially DC.1.) That is not Lian, that is a weird abomination with her name. Lian is a kid, not a teenage hero with blue hair.2.) The shitty fanfiction LiveJournal/Tumblr/woman/fag quip from Cheshire.
>>144663705>DC stands for Don't Care
>>144667908>"pick and choose" canonIt's no wonder DC is floundering. Cape comics were built on their continuity and they've discarded it in favor of people being able to do whatever they want and pick what they do and don't want to be canon no matter how contradictory. The whole "contiuity is chains, the writers should be free" crowd finally got their wish and all it's done is completely destroy DC by taking away any reason to give a shit about anything going on because everything may as we be happing in individual bubbles.
