James Gunn posted Creature Commandos trailer. DCU officially starts December. https://x.com/JamesGunn/status/1816954436448813267
>>144676348Looks coolCan't wait for /co/ to talk about it for a month and then go back to saying Western animation is dead
>>144676348Nice trailer.
Animation looks decent enough
It looks well animated, so that's good.I'm not sure why Caped Crusader looks noticeably cheaper than this.
>>144676348Wonder how many references, if any, this will have to TSS/Peacemaker, since they might be soft canon to the DCU.
>>144676348ehh... looks bland as fuck, zero interest so far
>>144676527Based on the set photos for Peacemaker, they probably will explain what caused the reboot because set photos showed a mural of the White Dragon in a slightly different costume with Peacemaker and another guy in a costume who's likely his brother.
I thought they will do the typical DC animation style but like the linework on this looks unique
>>144676658Here the picture.>>144676691The designs were by that one French guy who draws that one big titted anthro cat
This just looks like suicide squad but with more members lol. This kinda looks vapid and the animation isn't far too different from any other DC animation we've seen recently. Should've made a Wonder Woman show.
>>144676348wow i actually like the artstyle with the slightly thick outlines
>>144676759ya bc wonderwoman IP been handled so well they should take another chance
>>144676348Hopefully this means a pause on the train of shitty Suicide Squad pushes in the comics.Even if it means we're never ever getting an Agents of S.H.A.D.E. relaunch.
i need the fish
>>144676348
>>144676348The skeleton guy, he has a famous reaction image, post it for me please
>>144676976Doctor Phosphorus and Blight are completely different characters. The latter ripped off the former.
>>144677010RIP
>144676527>>144676658Circe is the main villain in this and is being played by the actress from the witcher, magic is probably going to explain the soft reboot
>>144676348>Pedo Gunn Dropped
Looks great
>>144677184Why the fucking the Mexicans so obsessed with James Gunn "saving" to DC?
>how about more suicide squad but with another name?
>>144676348>>144677190Balak did the character designs for this show, too bad he couldn't go full coomer on the female designs like he usually does and give The Bride huge watermelon tits.
So is this DC's Darkstalkers?
Looks cool
Surprised they are using grant morrisons version of Frankenstein and the bride
>>144676759Wonder Woman is boring as fuck
>>144677427If he's not quoting Milton the entire time is it even Grant Morrison's version of Frankenstein?
>>144677433how about suicide squad with another name?
>>144677477There has been way more success with suicide squad than wonderwoman so is it so fucking wild they will make a suicide squad related show
We have Hellboy at home
>>144676348Damn I thought that was atomic skull for a minute
>>144677466He seems to be wearing the same steam punk jacket from seven soldiers
>>144677532oh really? the only success suicide squad ever had, the 2016 movie, was still lesser than wonder woman
>>144677571Why are you trying to prove a point that doesn't exist
>>144677571>2 dog shit movies vs 2 movies with a HBO series spin off and an anime based off it
>>144677612make another suicide squad while you're at it
>>144676348I did not expect Jake to sound like that
>>144677636>They can't stop making Suicide Squad slop in the hopes that it will catch on, that means it's a success
>>144677663yup that's how the industry worksStuff that isnt popular or interesting get seasons and new shows yup yup u are so smartThey arent making wonder woman shows bc it is TOO popular and TOO interesting
>an entire cinematic/animated/comic book universe revolving around Suicide Squad shit
>>144677686they do when it's the new boss' pet project
>>144677686>Stuff that isnt popular or interesting get seasons and new shows
>>144677712ya you are SO smart do whatever the boss says not what the investor say of course bc the bosses have the final say not the people trying to make a profit.You seem like a REALLY smart individual and not just talking outta your ass
>>144677731are you just trying to prove my point?That got hate watched to death so of course it will get a second season
>>144676348Looks decent
>>144677686>Wonder Woman movie is significantly more profitable than the Suicide Squad movie>She gets nothing while Suicide Squad gets the keys to the DCUit is strange, isn't it?
>>144677767You keep mentioning the wonderwoman like that was the end of wonderwoman like were you in a coma the last 20 years or something?They tried to keep wonderwoman a thing but it didnt work out they ruined it
>>144676348Trailer looked decent so I'll at least watch the first episode. Im kind of tired of Amanda at this point and I'm annoyed that its not the real creature commandoes but thats pretty minor
>>144676348james gunn if quirky band of misfits scripts didnt exist. Hes doing this stupid shit with superman again with le epin 80s music again.
>>144676759This is better than SS by default because Harley isn't shoved into it
>>144677795were you in a coma to not see the huge suicide squad flops? but they keep making it
>>144677388maybe they can have a joke with bride giving herself huge tits
>>144677814It never gets old huh Gunny my boy
>>144676348It already started with Blue Beetle
>>144677859based rememberer
Looks like a fun watch. Trailer wasn't a cringe fest.
>>144677795They cast an actress who could play a retarded island hick, but not one who could play a century-old warrior-scholar.>>144677767Skwad without Joker was just a doomed endeavor.
>>144677850This is his THING. The thing he is Good at.Putting him over the whole DC universe is like putting Garth Ennis over all of DC comics.
>>144677859already retconned
I'll now proceed to pleasure myself with this fish
>>144677732>Matt Reeves can't even make a Gotham show because they want to focus on "marquee characters">Meanwhile, I guess the Amanda Waller TV Series must be the television event of the decadeyou must be James Gunn or something
>>144677823>suicide squad 2021>budget $185,000,000>Worldwide $168,717,425>Wonder Woman 1984 >budget $200,000,000>Worldwide $169,601,036you know the biggest fucking difference between these two other than one losing more money one film was actually GOOD and even resulted in a TV series that got good reception
>>144677943isnt his penguin show happening so what is your point
>>144677955now I see how much of a bigger success it was, time to greenlight another suicide squad game
>>144677955>The Suicide Squad home video sales: $15,884,698>Wonder Woman 1984 home video sales: $39,221,719Time to get Max Lord his TV show
>>144677879Sexo
So is this basically Suicide Squad but with monsters instead? Because that’s the impression I got from the trailer.
>>144677859The actor will continue playing him, but the movie will be soft canon at best.An animated series was announced recently, which will actually be canon to the DCU.
Warner Brothers Discovery is currently valued at $20 billion dollars (somehow).I bet Bezos wheedles them down to 10-12.
>>144678019>>144677984>DURRR HURR>WHY NO WONDER WOMAN SHOW>DURRRR
>>144676348I find funny how only one of those (G.I Robot) was part of the original team
redpill me on this semen demon
>>144678024I mean weren't some of the Squad monsters/demons already?
>>144677978Was in production before James Gunn got promoted
Wonder Woman isn’t getting anything (excluding Paradise Lost somewhat) in order to create some distance with the Gadot portrayal.Same thing for Flash (the Rogues are rumored to be getting a show) and Aquaman, creating distance from the DCEU versions.
>>144678091A show centered around The Batman's Penguin sounds awesomely boring.
>>144677536Hellboy sucks
I don't like Flag's voice and hair.I thought GI Robot fought in Vietnam?! I wonder how they'll justify him being in jail.Also can we really say Dr. Phosphorus isn't human?Anyway, I'll be watching it once it comes out.
>>144677978This would be like making a show about BP II's Namor (a movie that sold more tickets than The Batman), except at least Namor was the main villain and in most of the movie.
>>144677190>>144677879Truthfully, I’ll probably end up watching this show because of these two.
>>144678055The DC nations shorts had a lineup closer to the OG comics
>>144677850wait til you see the... oh no no no
>>144678113which reminds me of the main thing: "rebooting" and "creating distance" with the DCEU... except for, you guessed it, the Suicide Squad
>>144678198Well of course, that was the work of a True Genius.
>>144678153but black panther 2 was bad so ur point doesnt make senseAt least the batman and the 2021 suicide squad was goodDont know about the penguin bc it didnt come out but peace walker got good reactions
>>144678198Is there an Suicide Squad project announced? Creature Commandos is connected to it, but is not an SS project itself. Same for Peacemaker S2.
>>144678198>"why would they keep making shows based off one good DC movie made in awhile, it doesnt make ANY sense..."
>>144678251You thought BP2 was bad, I thought it was so-so, but The Batman is just a shallow homage to Nolanbats, with more shitty coat-wearing social justice bombers. Fuck that boring movie.
>>144678279yeah man, those rotten tomato reviews really bring in the cash
>>144678295dont matter what YOU personally thought i thought it was pretty bad compare to nolan batman but the public loved it
>>144678298>"it doesnt matter what the critics or the general public says.... if i hate it it means it is BAD and im always RIGHT no matter what...the world is WRONG"
>>144678279>A flop justifies pushing the IP everywhere because it was "good" and it has nothing to do with it being made by the guy who is in charge, that's just silly!
>>144678306Not enough to sell more tickets than BP 2 though.Lowest grossing Batman in a long while.
>>144676348>>144678055I hope they don't try to shove Amanda Waller into this as the person behind the team or something since in the comics she has absolutely nothing to do with the Creature Commandos and I'm really fucking sick of seeing Amanda Waller on everything now
>>144678325>"good movie gets attention and praise...NO i do not like the guy and he is charge so i disagree it must be bc he is the boss not bc the movie was popular and the show it got was popular so it lead to an anime and more TV related stuff.... it must bc he is the boss not bc the IP did well"
>>144678363we already know the IP didn't do well, so yeah
>>144678352I mean i have NEVER heard of someone say they loved black panther 2 like imsure people went becasue it was a sequel to BP but for sure I heard a ton of ppl praise The Batman and loving it so I can see why people will keep making more related movie/show for it. Wasnt ironheart suppose to come out like wtf happen to that show, so much of marvel projects just being canned or delayed
>>144678360Didn't you watch the trailer?
>>144678363Gunn is good, even great at the loveable misfit sorta movie. But that's all he's shown he can do.
>>144678386>"what I say is FACT"
>>144678295calling the batman shallow in comparison to the nolan movies is crazy
>>144676348>DCU aka Gunnverse, 2024-2025
>>144677388I hate how the modern industry can't let these guys be themselves. Gunn is also a full blown coomer and has been forced to tone it down.
>>144676348Defo wifing the Bride
>>144678400Yes, we've all heard the same Batfags declares "this Batman is the greabest evar" Batman after Batman after Batman.Batfags will loudly praise Batman, it is known.
>>144678426Making Batman a 40 yr old edgy teenager doesn't add depth, nor does retarded "detective" shit, and it's the same old same old Nolan villain.
>>144678024Not exactly, the Suicide Squad gimmick is that a member of the team (that isn't Harley) always dies, the Creature Commandos always survive since many of them are inmortal or in the case of G.I. Robot they just fix him
>>144677190I guess I'm a necrophiliac now
>>144678360Guess who says the first line in the trailer
>>144678402no, he just came here to complain
>>144678061She wasn't part of the original team, they added her in the 2000s comics, so read those if you want more of her, the 80s lineup was this: >>144678360
>>144678478it had a little more going on with the characters but sure
DC is so fucking trash. They have no idea what they’re doing.
>>144678506Rightfully so
>>144678554Amanda Waller is DC's Evil Nick Fury now and I think you're just going to have to accept it.
>>144678543but nothing you could actually name. Unless you want to mention White Guilt, and you do not.
>>144678566remember that time they made Amanda Waller the boss of the JSA? that was wild
>>144677388Hold on, the guy who designed Maxine worked on this?
It always feels weird when a big mainstream appeal show gets made then you go through the main artists twitter and 5 posts down from the show announcement is a girl with her nipples poking through her shirt and showing off her bush
>>144678569nah i just cba rn
>Cool designs>Good animation>Great art style >Coomer scenes like you're always complaining don't exist anymore>Adult action animation like you're always begging for >You guys still aren't happy because Amanda Waller is in it You'll fucking whine about anything won't you?
>>144678582She also made Superman her bitch in that movie.Thank god it’s not canon to the DCU.
>>144678113>Wonder Woman isn’t getting anythingSorry anon, but Amanda Waller and Harley Quinn are more important now
>>144677536The Creature Commandos came out before Hellboy
>>144678590>a big mainstream appeal showThis is just Gunn's Harley Quinn cartoon series, no one in the mainstream gives a single fuck.
>>144678631the sad reality is that women don't want to be Wonder Woman and they never really have. They've always wanted to be Harley Quinn - a carefree slut who fucks the bad boys and is beloved by everyone because she's actually the funniest, smartest, hottest person in the room
>>144678631maybe dont fuck up your chance after a good initial reaction>WOMAN DIRECTOR WOW>WOMAN LEAD ACTRESS WOW
new DC Studios intro
>>144678606Wait till the show is out shill
>>144678678I like it
>>144678697Right back at you, bitch
>>144678664>They've always wanted to be Harley Quinn. The Joker's damaged girlfriendFix'd.No one at all wants to be lezzo don't need no man Harley. No one at all.
>>144678678Ah yes, Golden Age Superman, the one who killed Japanese people
>>144678714whatever helps you sleep at night, chief. Fact remains, the Harley everyone went gaga over was "I don't need no man, I can do whatever I want and fuck whoever I want" Harley.
I do occasionally get sick of this site's need to constantly be negative about and anticipate the worst from everything
>>144678742>. Fact remains, the Harley everyone went gaga over was the one who left in a Helicopter with the JokerFix'd again.
>>144678748This is Warner Brothers, it's a pretty reliable stance.
>>144678775Go take out your anger on women, I'm just the messenger.
>>144678796No, you are retard.They tried to sell Jokerless Harley, even the SAME Harley, and absolutely no one was buying.Nor the second time. Her entire popularity is based on being an insert for chicks to be Joker-boys girlfriend. She is shit without the Joker.
>>144678816Again, I'm just the messenger. Go vent to someone who gives a shit.
>>144677879>>144678022>>144678061She has no vagoo, how do you fuck her?
>>144677536Wetworks is "Hellboy At Home" and infinitely better than it should be
>>144678857>Mouth>Hands>Tits >Thighs >Feet>Armpits>Butthole, presumablyI swear, you guys have no imagination
>>144678825Again, no you are just a wrong retarded person who can't see the evident.It's not even Robbie's fault, she killed it with better characters.
Will Balak sneak in some weasel dick and bride bush?
>>144678921MA Harley show wouldn't even show tiddies, so good luck with that.
>>144678921>bushFucking dropped
Would plap fish and corpse
>>144678951what a pussy
>>144676521Considering its part of the DCU it likely has higher priority. Gunn wants make his DCU the main universe so all attention is going towards. It’s also why My Adventures with Superman got a budget cut for season 3.
>>144678447I assume the whole reason Balak is a staff member on Creature Commandos is because Gunn is a "fan" (aka total gooner)>>144678585Yes, THAT Balak
Had to include him again, huh?
>>144679081desu, as a bit of a coomer myself, I'm glad Balak had to rein it in. I've never understood people who get off to proportions this exaggerated.
>>144676348Looks edgy and cringe.
>>144676348Not bad but feels very Suicide Squad. I know, it's SS: Monsters edition but still.
>>144677955>one film was actually GOODYes, Wonder Woman 1984
>>144676348Soo...What's gonna happen if Gunn's projects are flops?
I would have thought they'd spend more money on the animated show that's going to open the whole DCU
>>144677388If this is true then I'll watch it.We gotta support the big titty artists whenever we can.
>>144679212Superman Legacy will. Nobody cares about Superman with exception of his fans.
>>144678734https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM_CuRytFc4
>>144679259Sure pal
>>144679034>It’s also why My Adventures with Superman got a budget cut for season 3.Good, that show is genuinely shit
>>144676348The trailer is up on Youtube for those who don't have Xwitter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CsuJoumqAk
I'm like 90% sure this is AI generated
>>144679034Not a smart move to cutt My Adventures with Superman Budget.
>>144679122
>>144677745hell nah it didn't. it was greenlighted to two seasons from the get go, "two" seasons.
>>144678874Exactly. I'm always thinking of a quote from... I think Babylon 5?, in reference to these situations:>I can see a mouth and hands from here
>>144679317Look at Superman Returns.
>>144678055>>144678360DC showcase had most of the original lineup
>>144679418Source: Youtube
>>144679122i love this critter
>>144679034Yeah writers already clarified they see it as an elseworld Superman not “THE Superman” of the DCU so they were given alot more freedom than usual,
>>144679369Looks meh but better than shit like MAWS
>>144679243It's true, Balak confirmed he drew the group shot in the main promo image.
>>144678748its james gunn. He cant make anything good to save his pedo ass life
>>144676348>>144679369>They needed to add a Batman villain to the team even if he was never part of it previously At least it was Dr Phosphorus which isn't as well known
>>144679212double down until they sell WB again
>>144679523The fact that they used Doc Phosphorous and not someone like Killer Croc or Man-Bat suggests to me that Gunn just liked the look of the guy and his gimmick as opposed to just fishing out a Batman villain to use to boost ratings.
>>144676348>Weasel instead of the Wolfman>Dr Phosphorous instead of the Mummy>Fishwoman instead of Fishman>presumably Rick Flagg as designated the human "commander"Eh... that's not too bad in terms of substitution. No Vampire but we get 2 Frankensteins
>>144677814>>144677850It literally did start out as a Suicide Squad spinoff before Gunn took charge of DC
>>144676348Don't they got a Medusa lady?
>>144676348>Bullet logo is backKino for that alone
>>144677388What a waste. You have an artist who draws great huge breasts and tell him "don't draw huge breasts".If I had $$$ I'd pay him to embiggen my generic character designs as he sees fit.
>>144679543Phosphorous is in a fairly well regarded run(Englehart's Strange Apparitions) that was one of the go-tos before the modern era, so it's not too surprising Gunn would know him.
>>144677536The new Hellboy looks like Hellboy we have at home
>>144679738The 80s version does, not this one, they also have not a single Vampire member like they usually do
>>144677562Designs don't matter if the characterization is shit.No Paradise Lost quotes no Seven Soldiers Frankenstein.
>>144678734Based Supes
>>144679369>0:40Am I crazy, or did they used some weird-ass cover of "Moliendo Café"?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPSsx0EvWl0
>>144678678I think Gunn is serious about making Superman the heart and soul of DC
>>144679229wut dis
>>144679831based
>>144678678The bullet is BACK.
>>144679801She cute
>>144678055well the original team is from ww2 and then got shot into space and this team seems to be set in modern time. I guess both teams could exist in this universe.
>>144677846Well she must get a second pair of arms at some point so maybe she finds some giant boobs at some point too.
>>144679081BASED! I'm gonna fap to her tonight
>>144676348Looks better than Batman Caped Cucksader. What's funny is how this looks like a more interesting version of the Suicide Squad, kek.
>>144679831Really, because I'm so done with DC. There's too many damn humilation rituals and shitty writing.
>>144680498>Humiliation ritualsYou should try having some of your own thoughts and opinions for once in your life
>>144676348The fuck, it's just Suicide Squad?That feels so mundane.
>>144680659You should try paying attention for once.
>>144680709Everything wrong with Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League was already in-place before Gunn had any say at WB/DC.
>>144676465I just ignore nihilists these days
>>144680741When has it ever stopped though? WB is a revolving door of morons, what's James Gunn going to change. He likes gore shit and thinks superheroes are too retarded as fuck to take seriously. And no I'm not a Snyderfag, because Snyder was a complete moron too with a shit version and obsessed with edgelord nonsense.
>>144677879>>144677939>>144678061Fishes aren't for fucking
>>144676348I say there's an 95% chance of a rock version of Monster Mash being in the soundtrack
>>144678590Source?
>>144681875Not with that attitude
>>144681899https://x.com/YvesBalak/status/1812545320431296828
why do all of these adult animated superhero shows/movies have the exact same art style
>>144679543I don't honestly know how anyone could entertain the idea he was chosen because he was a "Batman" villain. I'm not the biggest Batman person, but I've been hanging around here for years and I didn't know he was a Batman thing (or a thing at all). You think any significant amount of people know enough about him, much less associate him with Batman enough, for it to be considered an effective way to draw eyeballs?Whatever his history or appeal, it's certainly not something that made him attractive as a stunt choice to draw in normalfags who like Batman. Though knowing he was a Batman thing does make me realize he was probably the inspiration for the Batman Beyond villain. But that's not something most people are gonna be thinking about when they see him anyway.
>>144682275This. If it were a cynical choice to bring in the Batman fans then Man-Bat would be in instead
>>144677767Suicide squad is CEO beloved pet
>>144677767>>Wonder Woman movie is significantly more profitable than the Suicide Squad movieNo? The first Suicide Squad made about the same but far more in merchandise while the second Suicide Squad movie did a little better than 1984.
>>144682109
>>144677767Dude what are you talking about? Wonder Woman is getting a game and there is the Amazon's shows that she will clearly be involved with or spinoff from. We're not getting a movie because we just had one 4 years ago. There isn't another Suicide Squad movie happening anytime soon either. We're only getting a Superman film because it's been 11 years since the last solo.
>>144678172>Mr Terrific has a comic accurate suit>everyone is praising, "see Gunn knows what he's doing">a week later Guy and Hawkgirl's shitty suits are revealed>shills start saying "um actually they're supposed to look corporate and bland, okay, a-and they'll get their REAL suits at the end of the movie of course............"
>>144682698Green Lantern is literally an intergalactic police officer who answers to a completely different power than Maxwell Lord. Of course he's going to have his own suit. Hell, Hawkgirl's the same with the Thanagarians, kinda. Just wait and fucking see with this shit.
>>144682698Both are true. Mister Terrific is accurate but the other suits are similar and corporate as they're a team based off the Terrifics. You don't have to like it but that's clearly what's happening
i have capeshit fatigue and I'm sick of quips and quirky one dimensional james gunn characters
>>144678678Boring as all hellbring back that comic book shop intro and zoom into a custom issue of whatever the animation is
>>144679909Gachashit
>>144676348>Suicide squad but z-list/ocOk?
>>144683130What OC?
>bride/Frankenstein romance/breakup subplot I'm yawning already
>>144683145She is a lesbo in this
>>144683005>capeshithow is this capeshit?>DC is capeshitWhat capeshit exclusive elements that you're tired of are visible here?
>>144677190Huh...You know I haven't seen too much of DC's version of The Bride but isn't she supposed to have four gangly arms? In fact:>>144676348This line up looks rather strange. I'm not particularly familiar with Creature Commandos, mainly the earlier WWII version, but I'm fairly sure half of these characters have never been a part of the group. Dr. Phosphorus and who I think is Weasel I know for a fact have never been members, The Bride I don't think was every an actual member just a tangent character because Frankenstien was a member in the later incarnations, and I straight up have no clue who that fish girl is. The robot man I think is an actual Commando but I'm also pretty sure he never served with Frankenstien but with Patchwork, not too sure on that though it's been a while. What a bizarre line up. Also who is the human guy supposed to be? Lucius, Mathew?
>>144683301>Also who is the human guy supposed to beFlagg
>>144678537>>144678857Huh so she is an actual character from Creature Commandos? Odd I've never seen her even in a cameo before.
>>144676348I'll watch it, but I'm not gonna have high expectations.
>>144678116as opposed to sassy black woman and her wacky hijinks?
>>144683549That's kinda of odd, I mean I guess it works since he worked with the another of the robot guy on the first iteration of the suicide squad before it became the modern villain grinder. Still Flagg's been used a lot, seems odd to shove him in here over one of the other human commandos.
>>144683661the connecting fiber is that he's senior, the one who died in TSS was Jr.
>>144683704I always just pretend that Flagg Sr. and Jr. are just in the same situation as Black Cannery and treat them as one person.
>>144679801Overseas censorship laws? Doesn't Red China have a no "supernatural" law. Vampires are supernatural, Frankensteins aren't.
Fish sexo
>>144679909https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlj5Z3wWE_U
so, who are you guys excited for? for me, it's dr phosphorus
>>144679369Creature Cum
>>144683130These are all from the comics, so no OC The Bride did had 4 arms and bigger tits in the comics tho, they probably want this version to look more like Universal's Frankenstein Bride which is odd since they removed the team's vampire
>>144685215Yeah, removing the vampire is dumb
>>144681875dolphins do it
>>144683145>>144683164Just rumors no confirmation of either, they did confirm that they only gave her 2 limbs to make it easier for the future live action movies >This version has two arms, instead of four as depicted in the comics, to simplify her depiction for both animation and live-action. also: >Frankenstein is a member of the Creature Commandos and the Bride's love interest, who Harbour described as "very colorful",The animators gave the character more complex emotions and a softer silhouette to better reflect Harbour's performance.
>>144685263>Harbouroh shit it literally is Hellboy at home
So this Rick Flagg is supposed to be the dad of the previous one?
>>144684686either him or weasel>>144685263>This version has two arms, instead of four as depicted in the comics, to simplify her depiction for both animation and live-action.lame
>>144676348The Nazis were the good guys.
>>144685301yeah its rick flag sr