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>>146060990I see it's going to be one of those runs
>>146060990First reply to page that will have the most replies.
>>146060999>and tripsMotherfucker!
>>146061010is tony the most out of Cossmision superhero these days?feel like he has been in the hospital way more than any other Marvel character
>>146061017I don't think turning Start Enterprises into Betfair is very ethical tonyWouldn't a former acholic and drug addict realise he's just going to be making a bunch of gambling addicts?Uncut Gems Marvel edition would be kinda funny to see though
>>146061059decent enough reason for dropping the Mysterium armour
And that's it. If you liked this, support your LCS or whatever.
>>146061068so Tony will go up against Entrantrass then rather than Agger after this Roxxon arc is over
>>146061086decent enough start better than Cantwell or Duggan's first issue
>>146060999It was going to be one of those runs ever since they announced the writer:>Responding to the Jeremiah Wright controversy surrounding Obama's campaign, Ackerman, a contributor to online group JournoList, stated "If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they've put upon us. Instead, take one of them – Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares – and call them racists".>Ackerman was also quoted as saying, "find a right winger's [sic] and smash it through a plate-glass window. Take a snapshot of the bleeding mess and send it out in a Christmas card to let the right know that it needs to live in a state of constant fear. Obviously, I mean this rhetorically."
>>146061072>Even one of your Avengers allies is with us.Who?
>>146061129>I mean this rhetoricallyok that's kinda funny.ironically Ackerman made the core Villians of this arc at least way more Woke than Tony being a bunch of ethnically diverse new money girl bosses fighting Tony an Old Money WASP
>>146061017>>146061020So how exactly does AIM still operate as a business when they're known science terrorists?
>>146061044>a jobber like Flying TigerIt's weird for a character in-universe to refer to someone else like this. There's no kayfabe in this world.
>>146060990>>146061024>I>AM >SILLYEven knowing this >>146061129 I still gave it a chance because I figured hey, people grow, they can at least refine their craft. I was expecting bias, but when he described this as Succession-like, I expected some genuine satire at the industry. But no, it's literally>if you're against my politics you're literally Hitler and DEI isn't a thing, bigot!in literal twitterspeak. What's here for an old Ironfag like me to keep giving it 5.5€/month? The "boardroom politics" are simple. It's another >Tony loses the heckin companyplot at its core. Oh boy, he brought back some minor characters, what a move! I guess they're going to build up to Tony getting into magic properly, which is the hook, but it's just going to be the reverse of Waid's Strange run where Stephen started using space magitech. It'll amount to nothing, like all the times Tony tried to get into magic, and that'll be it. Tony will get another company by the end of the run, we'll spend 1.5 years of him slowly building his steampunk armour, and then the next writer will come in and re-do the basic plot all over again. I'll give it a few more issues, but it's pretty bad thus far IMHO.Also, why is the art so bad? Tony literally looks like a 60 YO anorexic.
>>146061024bendis man suit
>>146061184>Tony literally looks like a 60 YO anorexicI think it meant to show he was in hospital for a long time and lost a lot of muscle mass when he was going through physiotherapy. It doesn't make a lot of sense to only lose them in a couple of weeks though it's not like Tony was in a Coma for months
>It's another Stark loses everything and has to start from the bottom up storyIs there really no other story Stark is good for?
>>146061257space adventures is the only other story people seem to think off
>>146061017How the fuck would Starbooking work Tony? Just how often are we going to know a Superhero fight is going to happen in advance with major mainstream knowledge of the event, it's outcome, etc.?
>>146061024The only thing realistic is the lack of racial slurs. They would probably call Tony a kike for all we know.
>>146061298*unrealisticAnyway, meh first chapter. The set up better pay off next.
>>1460611353D Man
>>146061017In an issue full of terrible, stupid things this might be the top one. Does the writer have investments in a lootbox gambling site or something?>>146061144Standard for their kind of brain damage. Diversity in all things, even when it hurts the integrity of the story.
>>146061184More or less agreed with everything you've said. It feels odd and entirely out of left field heh for civilians in-universe to suddenly start calling Tony "woke," when AFAIK Tony's never done anything woke in the past and certainly doesn't actually do anything woke or DEI-tinged in this issue here, unless you want to count "listening to unions" and "wanting to take back his company and stop manufacturing weapons and killer robots" as woke, which would be stupid. Obviously it's meant to be a world outside your window deal, trying to reflect the current US political climate, but at best it feels like Ackerman simply hasn't put any actual thought into these comments and why Marvel citizens might be making them. At worst, yeah -- it does just seem like Ackerman saying "everyone who complains about this is a big dumb stupid internet idiot with no real reason to complain [and deserves their face through a hypothetical window]"What's more artistically offensive to my sensibilities is that it's gonna be yet another "Tony loses the company, Tony makes a new suit, Tony gets the company back" storyline. How many times has that happened by now? Can Marvel seriously not think of any other angle for an Iron Man run?>Tony literally looks like a 60 YO anorexic.In the comic's defence, the whole point is that he's been in hospital for months.
>>146061315he already did a fakeout villain arc in Avengers during the end of Krakoa it would be idiotic to do that again in the same year
>>146061332yet here we are with another "tear tony & stark [whatever it is this time] down
>>146061331My guess is that him getting along with mutants is DEI I guess?
>>146061332We're doing a "Tony loses the company" arc literally right as the last one ended. Comic writers are retarded. Comics are retarded.
>>146061384different Villian doing it so I doubt it's 3D man who is going to be the Turncoat againthe issue with Tony losing control of his company again so much so that it's a meme is getting rather tiresome though I wonder if it's the writers wanting to do these stories or Editorial having some Complex in regards to Iron Man running a massive company
>>146061412>I wonder if it's the writers wanting to do these stories or Editorial having some Complex in regards to Iron Man running a massive companyBoth imo. I guess political corectness is king right now
>>146061129BASED
>>146061153Their PR man put out a very convincing Twitter apology.
hasn't ackerman clarified his stance since that article came outi've seen some of the threads after he was announced as writer
>>146061153still riding good waves from AIMvengers
So why the fuck does Tony keep leaving his armors at random warehouses instead of something like an Avengers Headquarter with an active roster?
Another piece of shit comic from the House of Ideas!!!!!
>>146061086Thanks OP. This was pretty bad, but that's par for the course for modern Iron Man runs. I really wish Marvel would just get decent writer for Tony or Cap, they're both in desperate need of someone who can do something interesting with them that isn't just rehashing the same idea over and over again, or at least do it in a fun way.
>>146061017Chance already did this on ASM, weird for Tony to be stealing business ideas from supervillains
>>146061017I genuinely believe defense contractors to be better people than gambling companies.
>>146061549about the Iron Man essay from 2008?yes he has, he talked about it in interviews at least
Having him look normal on the cover and like a cancer patient in the book is some false advertising bs.
>>146061063>Ironfrost is still strong even separatedJust give an reason for Emma show up because Tony is injured and give her an armor.
>>146062225Pepper is still dead, just give her a Rescue armor with Hank's and Quentin's software
>>146062139>wah cover doesn't matchnnnewfag>>146062265if rasputin is still around bring back that rando New Five from the end of SoS' brotherhood
>>146062265when did pepper die?
>>146062343Killed offscreen by Fei-Long and Orchis, marvel wont admit since this is how he got all of stark's company.
>AckermanFor some reason I thought the new writer was going to be Ayodele instead.
Decent start.
>>146061010>Many weeks laterIt annoys me when the solo books have these big time-skips where a character is out of commission that aren't reflected in any of the many other books the character appears in. Did the Avengers not consider replacing Iron Man with someone else during this period?
>>146061010That is a lot of muscle atrophy.
>>146060990Came here to see how triggered this page would make everyone. You didn't disappoint.Have you chuds ever considered that you're actually the baddies?
>>146061298They should have done a Tony (((STARK))) to make it more authentic.
>>146061284The futurist knows all
>>146061072Once again, Roxxon(tm) shows to be based and put Stark in his place!
>>146061024Wasn't this Riri's suit?
>>146061073Starring Adam Cole as Tony Stark
>>146063466Kek, baybay
>>146063456Riri used it when she was the lead of the iron man book but Tony originally created it
>>146063445shut up
>>146061184He's like a bizarre misunderstanding of "temporarily embarrassed millionaire".
Between Thor, Hulk and now this I just wish they would either pull the trigger on a Roxxon event like "Roxxon Kill...Presents The Marvel Universe" due to magic fuckery or Roxxon decides to do a hostile takeover of everything causing weird team-ups.
>>146061017>>146061020This shit has been done to death.
>>146064018That might be the Summer 2027 event.
>>146061024
>>146061256>>146061005>>146061010This is just embarrassing (somehow even more so than the social media shit and left wing posturing). You're telling Stark had NO fall counter-measures of any kind built in for this exact situation after all these years of super-heroing. You're telling me no one in-universe can help him heal quickly from the fall? This is so contrived, it's just bad writing, things happening because the plot says they have to happen.
>>146061063millionth "Stark companies gets taken over" plotline
>>146064194the countermeasures were disabled by magic
>>146061079I really liked it. People online were hyping up Ackerman as some sort of award winning investigative journalist and it shows he's putting in the work, for something made by an outsider It's very continuity heavy.
>>146061024Anyone that uses twitter in current year knows there isn't a bit of hyperbole or flanderization here. Only thing missing is a porn bot saying she came 10 times to the video of Stark falling.
>>146064328even the cold iron suit?
>>146064484probably not but he wasn't wearing that one was he and the cold Iron suit was less anti-magic and more anti-fay/anti-elfthough all the mentions of Norse magic make me wonder if we will see the Cthulu baby from the end of that run used somewhere in this or Immortal Thor
>>146060984Yes sir!
>>146061047fraction dissassembled vibes
>>146061059I dislike this devaluation of mugga money
Ah sick, I was wondering when we'd get another volume of Gabby Rivera's America.
>>146060984bump
>>146060984Bump.
>>146060990that armor is awful.
>>146061243>>146063456>>146063590Surprised that it took this long for someone to mention the fact that Tony had a shapeshifting with different modes on it and can specialise for different things.Still, 1st Bendis Arc literally had it diagnose demonic possession.
>>146060983>>146060984>Sinclair colorsAh shit, im out. Thanks anyway OP.
>>146065560that's a terrible comparison anon,that was bad and entertaining this is just middling
>>146061024what the absolute fuck is this? why is Iron Man getting attacked by chuds caricatures?, why is iron man considerate woke in universe?, why is this a thing? good lord this seems unbearable, if this is the first issue where you NEED to bring in people and keep appearances then I don't want to see what will happen later
>>146063352People who use that word unironically are clearly the baddies, and will never be real women. This is known.
>>146060990Yep I'm already out, the immersion is gone
>>146063352That stuff is off putting I don't like "chuds" but I read comicbooks to scape reality not to get lectured about some bullshit I already know
>>146066999They're Marvel civvies
>>146066999To be honest I didn’t see anything wrong with itIt looks corny, but regularly browse social media it becomes depressingly accurate
>>146061331>It feels odd and entirely out of left field heh for civilians in-universe to suddenly start calling Tony "woke,"Tony literally points out none of their comments made any senseThey're just spouting buzzwords like a herd of sheepJust like real world twitter users
>>146067339Are you the writer? LOL I don't care about real life shit when I'm reading comicbooks you fucking retard, it's called escapism, if I want to see what people are saying in Twitter I'll check it on my pc
>>146061331>when AFAIK Tony's never done anything woke in the past and certainly doesn't actually do anything woke or DEI-tinged in this issue here, unless you want to count "listening to unions" and "wanting to take back his company and stop manufacturing weapons and killer robots" as woke, which would be stupidLiterally the leftist rethoric is that anything good ever done is woke. Hence they always go for "why do you protest now and you didn't before" counterarguments. To them Tony(and pretty much every super hero) was always woke.Yes, its stupid.
>>146067363>it's called escapism, if I want to see what people are saying in Twitter I'll check it on my pcOh no I agree with thatI fucking despise modern day slang even with the "world outside your window" shtick but I'm just pointing out that the page itself addresses the tweets are utter nonsense
>>146061331>AFAIK Tony's never done anything woke in the past and certainly doesn't actually do anything woke or DEI-tinged in this issue heresupported mutants, fought against his company when it was helping kill mutants, is friend with multiple superheroes of varying minorities, repeatedly talks against making weapons and tries to get his company out of making weapons, etc. If you think this wouldn't warrant randos calling him woke nowadays, you're not aware how stupid public discourse is.
>>146067339>>146067427You're missing my point. They don't make sense for us either, because nothing Tony has done here is woke or would even appear woke to a person in-universe. The comments don't have any reasoning behind them beyond Ackerman wanting to make an obvious point about the internet.
>>146067474Tony would actually do some DEI shit to get better ESGs scores in the most disingenuous way just for stark industries to get better stock in the market
Still the best first issue for Stark in years
>>146067476Hoo boy, you underestimate how dedicated “those” people are. You might see something stupid, I see something stupidly accurate
>>146067363>it’s called escapismGood fucking lord must every single thing be escapism with you retards? Can you read a single fucking story where something happens that’s similar to the real world without having a meltdown?
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>>146067661Iron Man isn't a realistic character.
>>146067772so this magic suit should come in handy next year? Doom was fucking with the Avengers today
>>146067883In a universe with magic and mutants and cosmic beings a guy with high tech armor is pretty down to earth by comparison.
>>146067919Because he is high tech armor, that is worse. Magic is something that doesn't exist so it can be whatever.
>>146067883He was literally made in reaction to Vietnam War protesters Stan Lee wanted to make a character that young readers SHOULD hate on principal but end up liking anyways The modern day origin has Stark disavow weapons manufacturing ASAP but in the actual comics it took him years to consider war profiteering was bad
>>146068008So what are characters aimed to be hated by audience originally now?
>>146060983Wait, I thought he died and was replaced by a sassy black girl ("Iron Heart?") ...
>>146068139that was eight years ago now anonwe have had four iron man since then
>>146067994>that is worseNo it isn’t. You can’t just say something and assume people will agree with it. Sci-fi tech is going to be seen as more “realistic” than magic and cosmic beings.
>>146068206You can study technology and understand when it is horribly misunderstood by writers. Iron Man has a long history with that.
>>146061024So now Marvel is killing Iron Man as a successful comic book as well as a movie character? This is fucking horrible. No one who likes "Succession" will read this. They'll watch succession. And anyone who wants a flawed but fun hero will be revulsed by this.
>>146068139Which Tony, every time he died, an all new all different Tony Stark appears.
>>146068262Comic Iron Man isn't successful.
>>146061017>mayThat is the LAST character from AoS i would have expected to be here.
>>146061048My God this book sucks.
>>146061059Jeez endless recycling. And of course he can't lose to a lady Stane.
>>146061063Well Tony, there was a vote. You don't want to be against democracy, now, do you?
>>146061053If you're going to revive a Hammer from the dead, I would have expected them to just go with the OG. So I guess props for not doing to obvious choice?
>>146061072Magic: the new "equity" ugh.If this Tony wasn't such a tool--a woke rich guy written by lazy, sloppy poor guys ("I'll just build ... some other stuff in muh factories.") I'd feel bad for him. But no one will root for him--which is the point—all white dudes in popular culture who aren't twerking 8 inches into their asses are the not going to be a character anyone roots for...
>>146061073He looks like End-stage Howard Hughes, circa 1970...
>>146068290Well I'm sure crossing "Succession" with old, Tony loses company, suits, and money, gets it back replaces it will be a wild success. Because someone who would've identified with a hero, will LOVE netflix quality decadent rich banter mixed in with crappy fight scenes. Ugh.
>>146068290Marvel Comics aren't successful now thanks to their new identity. But Iron Man was a success back to the 1960's as a book.
>>146068165All of them worse I guess? Why not just leave IM as a can't be beat black chick, with girlfriend problems of course and be done with it?
>>146067661It is similar to the narrative globohomo is pushing, not the "real world."I mean, good grief, Tony is literally a rich man written by a sloppy, lazy poor guy---"I'll build something in my factories--and you brilliant workers can tell me what it will be!"
>>146067474>ow stupid public discourse is.Anything I don't agree with is "stupid."Ugh.
>>146066999THIS. So sadly much this...
>>146067661Can you live in the real world first? Your commentary in unhinged, dull and gay.
>>146066504Someone posted it looked like the hideous Iron Heart armor. I agree.
>>146060983Tony, if the character was written remotely in line with it's history, would be like Elon Musk/Richard Branson/Steve Jobs--a low-key megalomaniac who stays grounded with the help of others and thinks his vision is God's. Tony saying, "I"ll build something else I don't know...--you workers tell me what to build in my rich man's means of production--Let's shake on it!" is utterly lame and out of (broadly his) character.
>>146060983Won't be buying that shit.But I bought this. And it was sweet.
>>146061063Are they actually gunna stick with that whole marriage thing?
>>146068976Until a writer that wants to pair Tony with a different woman comes along.
>>146068615yes, when everything is called woke by someone somewhere, it's pretty dumb
this sucked, writer should probably be arrested
This feels, outdated… must be the suit but the dialogues feel like those 2016 comics that this place like to point out from time to time. Also the “tony loses the company” doesn’t help making these feel outdated too, and people were hyping this
>read issue>knew /co/ would have an unreasonable hate boner for it>come to story time >not disappointed
>>146061005Defeated by a bunch of doves, how ironic
>>146061012What happened when his suit fed him painkillers?
>>146068491He looks like an even more cracked out Charlie.
>>146067559they all are migrating to bluespace
>>146060983I was pretty hyped for this run, but boy that was a rough first issue. The “Tony on Twitter” bit was rough in Cantwell’s run too.Better than Cantwell’s or Dunnan’s first issues. We’ll see where this setup goes.
>>146061020What does she mean by by "if rematches worked like parlays"?
>>146061024I can't wait for a deluge of grifter videos declaring the death of Marvel because they fucked up Iron Man for the nth time, while conveniently ignoring Ultimate Spider-Man, Moon Knight, Fantastic Four, and From the Ashes.
>>146071145
>>146061017>gambling degenerates are better than weapons contractorsI get the Howard Hughes thing he's going for but come the fuck on
>>1460610733 weeks in a hospital wouldn't make him that scrawny and slope shouldered
>>146071352Maybe he has other complications from various weird things his body has been through.
>>146071171>Ultimate Spider-Man, Moon Knight, Fantastic Four, and From the AshesThose are all terrible.
>>146061017>WEAPONS HECKIN KILL I MAKE NO WEAPONS I AM A TORMENTED GENIUS WHO WEARS A LITERAL WMD TO PUNCH ROBOT ALIEN WIZARDS BUT GUNS ARE HECKIN BAD FOR NATIONS TO HAVE, M'KAY?!>anyway, as a certified supergenius, I think that what my company should focus on making now is gambling!What the Hell is wrong with these people? Just how goddamn hard is it to write Iron Man? He's a cool supergenius billionaire with tech who wears a badass suit. How do you screw that up? Literally just have him running around the globe in MGS-esque plots with some good art and that's it. That's all you need. But we're 12 years since Fraction's run ended and we're still, literally, doing the>Tony loses company and goes back to scrapswith>le ebin thinly veiled political background/strawmanstory. Again. Again. And again. Why? Who enjoys reading this nonsense? Who goes>boy, I sure want to see more debris and shitty rundown apartments where the guy in the t-shirt whines about money when reading an Iron Man book? Just... what? Succession worked because it was HBO and was carried by the acting. It felt like a rich show because they had the cash for the sets and clothes and everything. In contrast Billions was very small scale and cringy because they had none of that. This Iron Man run is literally just Billions trying to be Succession, but it can't because it's missing everything.And I'll ask once more; who is this for? Literally? Normalfags know Stark as the quipster with cool gadgets. Ironfags want to see the old, more hardcore Tony who was more like James Bond than anything. The average capefag just wants something cool. So who is the 10th story about Tony losing his company and fighting heckin evil weapon-makers for? It's not new, it's not interesting, it's not cool, it's not well-written or drawn, it's just goddamn trash on all fronts.I just don't understand it at this point...
>>146068976They're just acknowledging it as a thing that happened. Start complaining when they actually shove Emma into this book.>>146068558Comics in general aren't successful. Marvel is actually doing reasonably well as far as comics go.
>>146061024>>146066999Tony replying to culture war faggots on Twitter feels incredibly below him. He's in the top 5 smartest guys on earth and he's saved it countless times. He should be reading scholarly articles, or news about world affairs.It doesn't even sound right for Marvel citizens to call him woke. My understanding is a lot of the world hates Tony because no matter what they see him as the weapons manufacturer. And he feels like he deserves it, so he doesn't revel in any good deed he does. It would make more sense for people to treat him like Elon Musk, but he's more of a saint in his personal life. Is he woke because he doesn't want to genocide mutants? That's the only way I can think to justify this.I was looking forward to this run, but now I don't think I'll continue it.
>>146061002What the fuck is this union guy's problem? First, he wants to keep his job. Tony says he'll keep his job. Then he wants a say on what him and his coworkers build, and they want to build artillery shells for some reason. If he wants a say in what to build, he should look for a new job or start his own fucking factory. Tony isn't gonna perpetuate the military industrial complex because some retarded American wants to keep making shit that blows up brown people.
>>146069973Morphine addiction
>>146061017>>146061020>It's a villains steal Stark [insert denomination here] and Tony goes poor runWe're going round and round in circles once more>>146061024But of course the only thing that bothers /co/ is that they mock online rightoids, what a predictable board
>>146073053>the only thing that bothers /co/The thread has been thoroughly shitting on the "Stark loses the company" plot retread as well since the start, anon.
>>146071171>x-fag worshipping trash and being the dumbest, inner monologueless homo in a 50km radius at any given timeMany such cases. Or not, given the sales.
>>146060984Bump
>>146060983Spencer ACK
>>146073074Good, this overdone to death arc isn't shitted enough as it is
>>146071276That doesn't make sense. Please explain how it relates to rematches?
