>>146080454>usagi completely misses out and she's to be married to a nice yet old guy>she dies in space usagiWhy can't best girl win?
Hey a furry thread.I'm looking for the name of that webcomic with the toon animal virus and the rape camel.Anyone know what I'm talking about?
>>146080524>toon animal virus and the rape camelI've never heard of this before, but I am now interested in whatever this is
>>146080524No
>>146080454NO GAMENO MANNO HONOR
>>146080454Sad moments because imperial Japan.
>>146080524Jack anon its called Jack and its ludoegdekino
FEUDAL JAPAAAAAAAN!!!I forget, how long has she been gone outside of Space Usagi or flashbacks? In universe I am sure it has only been a few months but it's got to be double digit years for us.
>>1460820242008 was her last mainline appearance. So about 16 years if you ignore Senso and the TMNT crossover.
>>146080454JAPAN!!!!
>>146080482>a nice yet old guyThat was a fake-out. She's marrying I think a retainer or possibly a son of that old guy.
>>146082086>2008holy shit lmao
>>146082183Deepest Lore (not really lots of people know this): Sakai based her on his first wife who died of illness. He probably doesn't want to use the character again because of this.
The tea made in a tea ceremony is considerably different from what's made for daily drinking and enjoyment. Generally it's made pretty damn strong for a tea ceremony and very unpleasant. Or so I've been told.
>>146082198ffs this is why you never base characters off real people
Usagi thread?>>146080482>best girlThat's where you're wrong. Mayumi was the best girl
>>146080454He should have joined the clan earlier. Let's be real, he isn't down to marry anyone unless you have bunny ears. He had tons of opportunities, he had tons of suitors some even free of the class laws! If he was at all open he would have married at least one person.
>>146082445I will forever hold the opinion that Mariko is one of the lowkey evilest characters in the comic the longer it goes on considering the bullshit she's put Kenichi, Jotaro, and Usagi through.
Tomoe is literally built for humiliation porn
>>146082086Jesus, that is a long time.
>>146082468>KenichiNo one cares about him, he's a jerk! The biggest jerk on jerk world (by self appointment)
>>146082802mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm red oni tomoe...
I think Usagi is going to marry Chizu just because she has been trying to push him away and she has been his best ally despite themselves. They are going to get married completely without each other's consent and with everyone's objections because that's how Feudal Japan works.I mean, her boots saved him from Jet. Fucking Jet
>>146082802>that art>can't have
>>146082588It's the psychological scars from her crazy bitch sister. Made her a natural masochist. Speaking of crazy bitch who I forgot the name of, given how long it's been I think it's safe to say that she really did die buried in that mine, I suppose.
>>146083004Nah, she's probably cutting down dudes like rice paper in some yet unexplored area of feudal Japan. She just hasn't been seen since Tomoe hasn't been relevant in a decade and a half.
>>146083017Has tomoe appeared at all in the IDW run? At this rate she is going to completely skip publishers
>>146083058SOON(tm). Usagi's cousin has met all of his other weirdo friends beyond Ishida so far, so Tomoe's time is bound to come. Trust the plvn.
>>146082959>>146082942>Regular tomoe and Usagi>Fighting ninjas who want to kill Tomoe's Lord and destroy the geshu province>Oni Tomoe and Usagi>Battling small children who throw beans at them
>>146080482>>146082310you're both wrong since Kitsune is best girl but she's for me
is she still serving the panda kid
>>146082802This pic is awesome, is astonishingly in the style of the comic.
>>146083309Last time she appeared they marriage had just been agreed to happen but she hadn't been wed yet. No nevermind if she married she will belong to a clan aligned with Lord hijiki
>>146082945She might be the best candidate, but they care about each other too much for that to happen. Even though both have said they would like to stop the bullshit and settle down, if one of them got killed by the others enemies, they'd never forgive themselves. So Chizu took charge and distanced herself to protect him from her enemies.>>146083141You can keep her
>>146083503I don't think I ever got far enough to get to a wedding involving her desu
>>146082468
>>146082086Well with the parade of returning characters we've gotten as of late, it's only a matter of time before Tomoe shows up.
>>146083141Kitsune's fun and has shown to be a good big sister and even wife if she decides to stop thieving and settle down only to then die. Just wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole because I don't like getting pulled into life or death scams and getting robbed by her all the time.
>>146080524Gone Feral? Where the chick turns into a mouse or rat?
>>146080524>toon animal virus and the rape camel
show me some crowd scenes please
>>146084307You mean like this?
>>146084307Also this. For some reason I can't find an image of Usagi in a group that doesn't want to kill him
>>146080454If she yelled out "He's just one man!" Usagi would have gone for her.
>>146084840>>146084844more like village/town scenes of civilians but those help too
>>146084863Or if there was a nefarious plot and in order to stop it, Usagi would have to marry her and knock her up then he'd do that. He'd be meddling all up in between her legs.
>>146080454>It was not a compliment.
All this time, and we never seen sumo in the comic, makes me wonder if stan just respects the sport enough to not make it into a spectacle.
>>146084307
>>146083141Goku would choose the worst girl in the series
>>146082175Yeah I don't think the husband had a family name in SensoThough I kind of dread the wedding arc coming to pass due to NTR shitposting
>>146085560Middle panel, guy checking out dat ass or cake or gyatt in zoomerian
>>146082445Mayumi-chan...
>>146085915A bee bit her bottom.
>>146085937>he could have fixed her and settled down with a loyal small town girl
>>146085889lmao
>>146086906Let's be real. Usagi won't settle down for a long time. He'll be wandering for years and getting into trouble every other day. He needs a girl that can travel with him and can protect herself.
>>146083906Came here to guess this
>>146087882That's only if Senso doesn't happen tooI hate to think about it but when Stan retires he probably would just do an open adventure continues ending
>>146087989Is this Endtown? Like what the fuck is going on here?
>>146088968Endtown rules. Different comic.
>>146080524Endtown?
>>146081618LEARN HOW TO MAKE TEA, YOU STUPID BIYATCH
>>146083445oh wow I didn't realize it wasn't stan
>>146083141you can fucking have her
>>146080454We haven't had anything new since The Crow right?
>>146091756If you're Writefag, then thanks again for doing my requests.
minor tragic girl
Hey all just wanna report that dogtanian and the 3 muskethounds is somewhat similar to usagi yojimbo, if usagi yojimbo took place in france and had less death.
>>146092274Most pointless girl.
>>146093133>tomoe getting attentionsomething's wrong, maybe another village well got poisoned>>146093342Thanks for the suggestion
>>146085915
>>146093720make your daddy proud jotaro
>>146080454Never actually read this before. Is it supposed to be read left-to-right or right-to-left?
>>146094072Left to right.
>>146090598Who's art?
>>146091968>>146093720Damn, what did I miss?
>>146094898One of them was cropped WIP nudity.>>146094820Callmewritefag
>>146095145>CallmewritefagWas he the one that did those old onsen brawl pics with Tomoe and Chizu?
>>146095219I don't think so, but I might be wrong
>>146095219nope
>>146080524>toon animal virusEndtown>rape camelWait, what?
>>146095298Would Chizu dom Tomoe or would it be the other way around?
>>146080454Tomoe has no game.
>>146087882>He needs a girl that can travel with him and can protect herself.Yes, because he says he is a bodyguard but he has a horrible track record in protecting people.
>>146096034Tomoe is always a sub and she hates it.
>>146080482There's a baffling belief among many Western authors that a happy ending is "too cliche." So we get Usagi Yojimbo, where Usagi and his one true love don't get to be together. And we get Bone, where Fone Bone spends most of the book adoring Thorn, and the two end up magically psycically linked so they know one another better than anyone else ever could and fully understand how awesome they each are, and then Fone just fucks off back to Boneville because his cousins kinda-sorta-but-not-passionately want to go home. Cerebus... oof. Those poor dumbasses.It keeps happening in comics meant to be among the best ever. So treasure the stories where They Live Happily Ever After.
>>146094007
>>146097157I'm fine with characters not always getting together but when the chemistry is that great and they obviously like each other and it's borderline contrived that nothing romantic happens then it's pretty frustrating to see. Tomoe either gets set up with someone else or she fucking dies. Stan seems intent to keep Usagi single forever while teasing romance here and there.
>>146082802We don't deserve such wonderful things.
>>146080482>>she dies in space usagi>Why can't best girl win?Best girl in Space Usagi was Koto though.
>>146092274I really wish she'd stuck around; the Komori have been around forever but have never really had any actual characters besides her. Plus it would have been interesting to have her and Chizu interact.
So has anything been announced after The Crow?
>>146091968>>146082310>Not Big ChizuC'mon. These are cool though
>>146097602The reprints of Space Usagi seem to be setting up more Akemi stuff. Plus a few years ago Stan mentioned finally finishing Ten Little Critters; now that he has his own imprint that might actually happen.
>>146082086>So about 16 years if you ignore Senso and the TMNT crossover.You tease
>Live in feudal society>Be awesome>Go far far far beyond what any other vassal does>Retarded child-Lord is easily duped by a scheming traitor and "rewards" you by tearing your heart to shredsIt's painful to watch, but at the same time I prefer it to nonsense trying to present feudalism/monarchies as being fine-and-dandy. No, they were shit.
>>146097729>scheming traitorHe was scheming but if nothing else he wasn't a traitor by any stretch and if we're being absolutely fair, Tomoe's accusations towards his ancestors based on her dream/vision where both completely pointless and, quite frankly, absolutely retarded. And if either Usagi or her said something Panda Lord probably wouldn't have tried to hook her up.
>>146097157>There's a baffling belief among many Western authors that a happy ending is "too cliche." So we get Usagi Yojimbo, where Usagi and his one true love don't get to be together.>WesternYou know Stan Sakai is a Japanese guy right?
>>146097776You know he lived in Hawaii since he was two right?
>>146095467
>>146097776Raised almost entirely in American culture, sure. It bleeds in.
>>146092967>That thread where anon dropped a whole doujin of Usagi in moonspeakI hope someone translates that for next year's storytime I don't have a fucking clue what any of it said.
>>146097807She was cute. ;_;
>>146097784>Asian dude, asian family, did asian research to write a historically accurate asian story about an asian swordsman who never married>suffering makes it somehow not asianThe whole point of Usagi suffering is to show how shitty fedual japan was. It's not a western thing to have him not be romantically linked. Usagi pines for every girl he meets. He fucked his childhood GF and has a kid, he dated a princess for a day, he longs for Tomoe and Mayumi etc. If he hooked up with someone he couldn't wander any more and that would basically end the series. Also fuck Kitsune but not in a good way. She can go to Enma's hell.
>>146097807>>146097823FEUDAL JAPAN sure likes to take a lot of waifus. And pretty much anyone else. Because that's how FEUDAL JAPAN is.
>>146097495>KotoWas that the one with the slingshot?
>>146097844Artist?
>>146090176>Someone saved my edit
>>146080524What the fuuuuck
>>146098503We saved everything. EVERYTHING.
>>146098586Even the pizza cutter of the gods?
>>146098593EVERYTHING!!
>>146098624I didn't even remember that one.
>>146080524Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Gone Feral. He's talking about Gone Feral. The webcomic about an outbreak of SOMETHING that's turning random people into human-animal hybrids with a large range in how it goes - some people end up "toony," animal-like but opposable thumbs, walking, talking, etc, some people ending up quadrupedal animals that can talk and think, and some poor buggers turning into human-animal monsters. Including a camel-man that attacked the main character (anons dubbed him a "rape camel" even though there was nothing even implied rape-wise, just a rampaging wild animal, but anons gonna anon).
>>146097825Both East and West do "it's sad, but the main character doesn't get the girl."But /co/'s "all time greats" list has a lot more of that than /a/'s. It's just how comics rolled.
>>146099322
>>146094007>>146097213Truly an ass-man.
>>146097225They can't get married because Usagi is a hobo and doesn't want to sign up with the Geishu.
>>146097729I kinda like that as Noriyuki becomes older and more indedepoendant he's becoming stupider and making worse decisions.
>>146097791Nice feet.
>>146097157With Usagi it wasn't so much Stan didn't want a happy ending, but that he didn't want to end it at all. If Usagi got with Tomoe either the comic ends or shifts drastically in presentation. Can't have Usagi wander up to his hometown or learn about onions sauce when he's honour-bound to serve the panda.
>>146097776>>146097825You can be ethnically Japanese and still be a Western author, or at least an Amerimutt one.
>>146097802>still out of stock>never getting another reprintLoad me into a teppo and fire me at Hikiji province, I am ready.
>>146080482>Why can't best girl win?because usagi didn't go back to that bridge.
>>146100160To imagine Sakai was considering an ending where she was just another assassin trying to kill Usagi.
>>146100089That's the way doujins be.
Reprint Saga volume 9, Stan!
I wonder what sorta autism we will get to next year.
>>146093720>>146094028The big trapezoid head makes it look like Mariko is off to 'spar' with Kenichi and not Usagi but the colorized version of that picture has his fur Usagi white instead of Kenichi's brown, which further makes me think that Mariko makes her husband put on makeup and roleplay as her baby's daddy if he wants to get sum fuk. Truly, the man who was cucked to death.
>>146100587Or maybe this fan art was created before the first colored Kenichi chapter.
>>146097635The term "Kashira" is used by the neko ninja for the rank of leader or boss of the clan. Hence, "Big Kashira"
>>146100747I know what kashira means.
>>146099827Stan draws some damn good feet, that's for sure.
>>146101548
>>146098112>>146082945>>146098112
>>146101596>TFW Gen then secretly donates all his money to help people in need
>>146100987indeed.
Good thread anons.
>>146102236Usagi threads are usually pretty cool
>>146100538>meow meow meow meow
>>146102513Really nice
>>146102513Hope
>>146102569>chewed tip
>>146102518I am getting some uncomfortable signals here.
>>146102660It's feudal Japan, everything has its price.
What did he draw?
>>146102569>>146102660Ouch
>>146102774The real question is what did Usagi draw
What did Ishida mean by this?
>>146102797
>>146102837
>>146102804
>>146102917
>>146102917>>146102944Hide yourselves, Keiko's on the prowl
>>146102288>>146101678Luv Gen, 'simple as.
>>146080454>>146082223The Tea Ceremony is full of deep meaning.
>>146103131go away furfag
>>146103131Another fine addition to my collection.
>>146103218>He saved the thumbnailHere, take the full image.
>>146103202>>146103214duality of Anon
For me, it's Ishida
>>146103131>>146103214that's the wrong version buddycheck the booru to find the one where I didn't forget Kitsune's ears
>>146103249Many thanks
>>146099295It's Rape Camel because it mirrors the Rape Horse from Berserk in its appearance and intended horror.
>>146103434Thank you drawfriend.
>>146100065At least that's what Hideo Kojima is trying to be.
>>146103459Man not the way I expected him to go out
>>146103994Just some scandalous woodblock carving of a thief and samurai woman.
>>146103994some booba
>>146100578>Clan Murakami>It's a turnip
>>146103283Cute dead tengu
>>146103964
>>146104131She's now lives in the waifu heaven
>>146103095>Tomoe becomes a tokage ladyYou hate to see it
>>146104180becoming a bit crowded for my liking
>>146103283>>146097807I missed her. When did she show up?
>>146097646What's that, an Agatha Christie style thing?
>>146104218After Usagis latest return to his home town.Before cousin Oliver arrived.
>>146103925Like everything in his life he didn't even do seppuku right. He didnt have a second or a stoic expression. All he did was just stab himself a bit, the bitch!
Has Cousin Oribur met Sasuke yet?
>>146099310Lame and gay. Let the hero get the girl for once. Fuck subversion.
>>146104271At least the western hero will show an interest in girls. 90 percent of the time anime heroes barely even register the females in their presence but will absolutely obsess over some retarded rival.
>>146093889Lol, still nice to know some of my old OC is still floating around.
I remember when I was watching a Great Ace Attorney playthrough and felt extremely proud when they mentioned that Japanese cops just looked at the corpse and came to conclusions from that without forensic because I already knew it from Usagi Yojimbo
>>146101452Lol, nice
>>146083141>Kitsune is best girlstatements dreamed by the utterly deranged
>>146100160If Usagi did go back then how long would she had remained by his side? I feel that sooner or later Stan would've wanted to get rid of her.
>>146104423
>>146104533Something bad probably would have eventually happened but maybe she could have settled down some place better. Relatively speaking. I mean feudal Japan is still a dump.
>>146082086>2008 was her last mainline appearance.
>>146104549
>>146104537>Yare yare daze>*Good grief
>>146104543She'd need Ktisune or Sneak's level of plot armor to survive being with Usagi long term. Close calls and occasionally getting hurt while avoiding getting FEUDAL'd.
>>146097825>>Asian dude, asian family, did asian research to write a historically accurate asian story about an asian swordsman who never marriedStan knows the Nihok Shoki and the one other big jap myths book to heart, but his writing style is clearly western, and has western prioritiesie the whole thing with japanese christians is considered a footnote in jap history
>>146100578Admirable dedication.Have an internet.
>>146104853Thank you, but i'm not mon-anon.
>>146104069>>It's a turnipvegetable / flower / tree clans mons quite common actually
>>146100578This is actually quite cool. I wonder if Stan has something like this himself when he draws this up.>>146104947That's clan cope. It's a turnip. It's somehow worse than those two clans that have sake bottles as their mons.
>>146105002>That's clan cope. It's a turnip. It's somehow worse than those two clans that have sake bottles as their mons.>conquers japan under a fucking flower>clan cope
>>146100160Who won the waifu vote this year?
>>146105656Gen is literally me.
>>146106039Amaterasu?
>>146105656green his whole body, yo
>>146104794>historically accurateHe deleted guns to emphasize swordplay.
>>146106705Sunny D, motherfucker.
>>146107079Were these lines from Venture Brothers?
>>146107183https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNm9M7JDlq4Yes
>>146107143In the end he's not an amateur historian nor have any need to become one. He's just working with Edo period samurai dicksucking & their own accidental revisionism.What I'm saying is: It's accurate to jap's own popular perceptions of the period, and on top of that he gives extra attention to stuff only an US foreigner would care for.
>>146107224Yeah, fine; samurai movies mostly ignore guns for the same reason (and many situations movies like that depict likely really wouldn't involve guns) but it's a modified cartoon history for the author's own purposes. Even the lack of real cats and dogs affects it somewhat. The tokage are an intentionaly cartoony touch.
I hope Kimi avoids getting Feudal Japan'd.Most don't deserve it, but she extra doesn't deserve it.
>>146109480Even if Senso isn't "canon" I don't think we'll ever see anything that absolutely goes against it either.
>>146080454The only thing I don't like about this relationship is the fact that Usagi and Tomoe met each other as kids, even if they don't remember.
>>146082945
>>146109551It was a pretty inoffensive meeting and not really all that implausible where and how. Like it'd be pretty weird if he somehow met Chizu as a kid given their upbringing. But bumping into Tomoe at a sword contest for kids is all in line.
>>146109480Who's art is this?
>my post was deletedWhat the ever loving fuck
>>146110516FEUDAL 4CHAN
>>146107224>In the end he's not an amateur historian nor have any need to become oneI don't know about that. With the amount of research that goes into UY and all the notes at the end of each issue I'd say Stan is doing his best to keep it as historically authentic as possible, within the allowances necessary for narrative and thematic suspension of disbelief, of course (no one knows what guns are, takoyaki existing 300 years before it should, tuberculosis being this unknown foreigners disease, etc)
>>146100578>>146104853>>146105002Mon-anon here. I missed one FUCK
>>146109480She's killed a lot of her "brothers".
>>146110768>I'd say Stan is doing his best to keep it as historically authentic as possible,That's the problem. "Historically authentic" is relative even according to the japs themselves.The NHK (biggest historian clique in japan) has basically dedicated the last 30 years of their existence to refuting old urban legends and actual revisionism that took since the early Edo period, which considered itself a golden age and retroactively imposed it's customs on 1500s civil war Japan and even Heike war era japan (early shogunate) because it's 1700-1800s historiography and they simply couldn't fathom their culture not being eternal and unchangeable.ie: bushido code. Never existed. Bushido wasn't even a common term until the 1800s. It was drafted whole cloth by some minor samurai courtier that never used a sword in his life. Japs heavily resist the idea of it not existing because it heavily damages coolness factor of the Samurai (but some, even KOEI the history game company, have come to terms with it). Rest of the world to this day believes the Samurai Code is a thing.And EVEN THEN, there's things the NHK will, never, ever touch because they goes to close to harming core Japanese identity ie the fact the royal line is not actually 1500 years old.So yeah, Stan has a great handle of the "official & popular history of Japan", but not of the ACTUAL history of Japan, because he started Usagi even before people started taking a real, historigraphically scientific look at Japanese history.
>>146110768>no one knows what guns areEh, I just see that as an outcome of Tamakuro buying up as many of them as he could for his plot. A big chunk of the teppo in Japan are now buried in the ruins of Tamakuro Fortress and the shogunate clamped down on their manufacture to avoid anybody else getting the same idea.Some major clans probably still have stockpiles (like the Houses had atomics in Dune) but they're not going to openly use them if they can remotely avoid it to avoid the Shogun coming down on them.
>>146110983Shut up.
>>146080454Matcha tastes like ppwdered grass.So yes.>>146082945>Stan ends up making Kitsune marrying Usagi just to troll everyoneThankfully the "the hero does not get the girl in the end" rule keeps us safe from that[\spoiler]
>>146111356Make me kusokokujin
>>146111102Usagi is set after William Addams' times. Most ashigaru were musket men.
>>146110983How about some of the other percieved historical conventions, like families selling their daughters to red light districts, or wives getting prostituted during hard times?
>>146111871Women have no honor, so it doesn't matter.
>>146111871>selling daughterselling kids was common in all history in all cultures>whybecause one crop season failure means the 40cms lanky potato sack is not gonna make it through the winter. Instead of letting it just fucking die, you can give him up to a passing caravan or local town so at least he has a chance of living, if a shitty life. There's also the fact that pre industrial cities were literally hell rife with poverty peddlers and worse scum that made the most meth-addled street in LA look like an eden. An abortion in 400AC literally meant drinking poison and starving yourself for a week straight then it's back to the whorehouse. Safe cities are a post-industrial invention.This goes straight out of history and into anthropology research and it's hard to discuss because americans can't conceptualize any form of slavery that isn't the most comedically extreme forms of chattel slavery.
>>146082945>I mean, her boots saved him from Jet. Fucking Jet>Jethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwRXxtwcJus
>>146103040He's my favorite
>>146108494yo jimbo
>>146103925Color was the worse thing that ever happened to this comic.
>>146113121Yeah it should have been used sparingly like for Senso-type stories
>>146110983>Stan has a great handle of the "official & popular history of Japan", but not of the ACTUAL history of JapanNo, I don't agree. UY does a good job of threading the fine line between genre fiction and historical authenticity. Stan's not a professional historian but he's a decent amateur one. What I like most about UY is that for a comic and a setting with wizards and yokai, who are all furries to boot, there's painstaking research to make sure everything else is reconstructed as authentically as possible: again, with consideration to allowances for genre conventions like bushido. In other words, I don't think it's a case of Stan taking cultural propaganda at face value without question, but he's made a decision to work within it for the sake of telling a good story. Compare the early Albedo Anthropomorphic issues to the later Dark Horse ones. The AA published ones were straight up samurai movie stills, complete with Sanjuro blood fountains. The later DH issues where Stan starts doing some research are more nuanced with how they depict daily life in Feudal Japan>>146111102But no one KNOWS what they are. It's like everyone has collective amnesia about guns.
>>146098624Still the best villain, forever.
>>146113121I was really hoping they'd go back to BW after returning to Dark Horse
Well, I didn't see it coming.
>>146114409It's not cultural propaganda, it's more nuanced. But I affirm he hasn't gone beyond reading the national epics and the most popular "history of japan books", which is what I meant by "official & popular" history of Japan. Many things and offices he showcases are closer to how they are depicted in popular theatre plays and novels. It's not like Stan started reading actual papers researched how a samurai's personal court operated.But I stress - He had no way to knowing this, Japs love their popular culture and defend it to their dying breath. He did an excellent job with the info he had at hand. Hergé Seal of Approval.
>>146116267>Many things and offices he showcases are closer to how they are depicted in popular theatre plays and novels.Yeah, because the comic is genre fiction. At no point does it ever truly stray from that. What makes UY so enjoyable is that it's well researched in spite of the limitations of accuracy imposed by genre conventions, compared to like, an NHK taiga drama which is straight up cultural propaganda.
>>146116479It's well researched but not historic. Again, he depicts the early 1600s / late 1500s when daimyos still had armies, loyalty meant jack shit, christians were not banned yet, then uses Edo period and Tokugawa shogunate legal & social customs that only appeared 200 years later. Or just straight up adapting stuff from the 1800s ie the retainers that assassinated their master's killer then sudoku'd.
Best way I can put it: The Samurais depicted in Stan's Usagi have littke to do with the period acurrate Samurai's depicted in Kitano's Kubi
>>146116796GENRE FICTION CONVENTIONS holy shit do I have to all caps this point to get it across to you?
>>146116884Yes. What made you think I was discussing the entertainment value of Usagi as a comic?
>>146116796It may not be totally accurate, which is good to know, he just selects interesting stories and adapts them from all different time periods into an amalgamation of plausible plots.
>>146116796>Or just straight up adapting stuff from the 1800s ie the retainers that assassinated their master's killer then sudoku'd.That was a stand-alone work not part of Usagi Yojimbo, though.
>>146116981>here's an apple. Well I begrudingly admit it's good for an apple it just can't compare to the orange-like qualities of an orangeTell me everything you know about backpacks in Feudal Japan right now or forfeit your right to participate in Usagi threads forever.
>>146116983That is true, but the Samurai Warriors fan in my still yearns for a proper period piece set in the 1500s Sengoku period. Edo contamination is so normalized nobody even it's a thing.It's hard. It's hard and nobody understands.
>>146116860>Kitano's KubiOooh, have to check it out>Nobunaga ultimately dies not from committing seppuku, but is beheaded by an infuriated Yasuke (much abused by Nobunaga throughout the film)lol more accurate than Ubisoft, I warrant
>>146117215>lol more accurate than Ubisoft, I warrantUnironically yes. Only piece I've seen that remembers Yasuke was heavily tied to Portuguese missionaries. Nobunaga's death is "lol baka gaijin" joke tho, Kubi is literally the best researched shitpost i ever watched
>>146117382>historical anachronisms are okay as long as I say it is
>>146117492>anachronisms? Kubi is a sengoku period piece about the honnoji massacre. Yasuke WAS there, he was nobunaga's retainer in exactly the last year of his life.
Well I guess we have the answer about what the next autism was going to be.
>>146104549ruff news
What Usagi been up to these days? I only read random issues and volumes here and there over the years, I should read in order someday.
>>146117761>Nobunaga ultimately dies not from committing seppuku, but is beheaded by an infuriated Yasuke>Nobunaga's death is "lol baka gaijin" jokeLook you can either accept that period genres all draw on tropes that are informed by cultural biases from the past and present, and have to make allowances that favor historical verisimilitude over historical accuracy, or you can apply your hard-line this is historically inaccurate approach to all period genre pieces, but you can't pick and choose which allowances you want to let slide and which allowances you want to put under a microscope.
>>146117865If anon is willing to commit himself and create a whole pic with period inaccuracies pointed on it, with pics of said inaccuracies, I will applaud it.
>>146117922Yeah that might actually be interesting instead of petulant whining about a silly bunny samurai book.
>>146117865Nah this discussion has been going on since the first storytime. It's fast approaching the point where we can call it Stan's Law: as a Usagi Yojimbo thread approaches critical mass (above 30 posts), the likelihood of two or more anons getting into a frenzied (you)-to-(you) duel over whether or not Stan's research is period-accurate or not approaches 100%.
>>146117492>historical anachronisms are okay as long as it's some barbarian culture I don't give an actual shit aboutbut maybe that's just me
>>146117967Fuck off and kys faggot. It is NOT silly ok Usagi Yojimbo is SERIOUS BUSINESS for SERIOUS badasses like myself
>>146117898When's the last time you stopped reading? Some pretty big plot points that have happened recently in the spoiler text below:>Usagi bids farewell to Tomoe Ame after their tea ceremony and we haven't seen her in over a decade of issues in real time>Usagi's wanderings have led him back to the forest where he buried Lord Mifune. After a lot of soul searching he's finally asked the spirit of his lord to release him from his vows.>While he's in the area, he visits his hometown and he kind-of-sort-of buries the wakizashi with Kenichi>He meets cousin Oribur (Yukichi) a little further down the road, the son of his mother's sister that he previously didn't know about.>They go on some adventures together that reintroduces old supporting characters from Usagi's past: Gen, Stray Dog, Kitsune, and most importantly, Chizu.>Chizu's finally gotten her shit sorted out and is no longer on the back foot in her one-woman war against her former ninja clan (thus all the Chizu as Big Boss fanart in this thread)>Usagi's last meeting with Chizu, with Yukichi in tow, ends on a sour note for them. Their relationship may be irreparably damaged but that remains to be seen.
>>146117907Nigger you are so upset I broke your picture of Perfect Historian Sakai you are trying to drown yourself in an anger puddle.Kubi isn't just well researched, it's a period piece so confident in it's handle of history it takes the liberty to be both an off-the-walls comedy and an aesop on peasant-daimyo relations during Sengoku Jidai with references only history autists would recognize.Either watch the movie or go die mad in a corner
>>146118242>I broke your picture of Perfect Historian Sakai Strawman retort. >so confident in it's handle of historyAccording to who, you? Self-proclaimed weeb expert? Your expertise doesn't mean jack shit anonymous.
Fanboys, not even once
>>146118232> Their relationship may be irreparably damaged but that remains to be seen.I very much doubt that to be case. Usagi's not dumb. (well. I mean..) so he GETS IT. But at this point if he gets involved with her at all again it's going to be in something bigger than he can really prepare for. Ninja war is go.
>>146111356[teleports behind you] No you shut up.>>146110983Can you point me towards some more info on Japanese historical revisionism in general, Anon? Books are cool, I like books.
So far we had following "battles" about feudal Japan:>argument about guns being common (or not) during the period>argument about superiority of either katanas or spears during the period>argument about responsibility of Europeans for tuberculosis existing in Japan during the period>argument about tea ceremonies during the period>argument if bushido really did exist as a concept during the period>argument about freedom of travel during the period>argument about how much political power could a woman possibly have during the period>argument about underwear worn during the period>argument about crime, punishment and atonment during the period>argument about backpacks existing during the period>argument about historical accuracy vs tropes and stereotypes in works of fiction taking place during the periodAll we need is an argument about women's periods during the period and we'll be done.
>>146118556>[teleports behind you]
>>146118635All of those contests falls under the greater umbrella of historical accuracy vs. tropes and stereotypes. And really, the battle (if you can call two retards seething at each other in a Feudal America recreation forum a battle) isn't even so much about that scale, as it is "how much credit or discredit does Stan deserve for his personal research when writing Usagi."
>>146118232>>146118456I don't remember I usually just read it here and there.Damn lot of that sounds like forced drama...
>>146118456He most likely will get involved in the upcoming ninja civil war. Even if he doesn't really want to help her at first, it'll at least be an opportunity to do some real damage to Hikiji's influence by reinstalling Chizu as leader, thus ending the Neko Ninja's loyalty to Hikiji.>>146119398The epilogue of that chapter showed that it was part of Chizu's plan to sour the relationship in hopes that it'll keep Usagi safe from being associated as her ally, and no longer being a target for the neko ninja. But yes, it was forced
>>146111359Kistune is one of the few major female characters who DOESN'T want Usagi's dick.
>>146119630Gen will fix her.
>>146119589Pay attention everyone. Chizu is cute. CUTE!
>>146119793I love when chizu is drawn cute like this. Stan has a weird habit of giving her a chiseled jawline and cheekbones every now and then.
>>146119827She's on the run. Even with her supporters helping her out, she probably doesn't get to eat or sleep that often
>>146119827yeah when i first saw her I though she was a dude
remember
>>146120061
>>146119982>that spoiler imageYou fucker. You absolute piece of shit peasant kirishitan mendicant rock-collecting sack of dishonor. Look at what you've made me do. Are you pleased with yourself?
>>146120139kek, based
>>146120139
>>146120139Yes
>>146118556>Can you point me towards some more info on Japanese historical revisionism in general, Anon? Books are cool, I like books.Don't imagine it as revisionism as a political movement (That only happened during Meiji)This phenomenon is best described as the detritus of 2 centuries of theater, novels, artbooks, overrepresented accounts & and jap popular culture imposing itself on history or filling in gaps where knowledge was vague because it wasn't written down or the only sources are nobility (therefore "official narrative") derived. etc. There really isn't a word to describe this.But understanding that this is a thing that happened will be enough to remind you to not believe every pre-tokugawa historic depiction at face value.As to what the actual era was like culturally. that's harder to figure. There aren't many cultural works from the period, you have the Otogi Zoshi that's supposedly 100% pre Edo + post Heian. What we do have is a downright stupid amount of primary sources about local geopolitics thanks to a large number of clan annals (family history books), records and saved communications between notables that allowed historians to publish comparison papers that dispute some popular associations with the timeTo keep it thematical: even a walking nothingburger like yasuke is mentioned in 3 different annals, and comparison between the 3 not only shows yasuke existed, but there was a dozen or so blapipo on japan travelling with the portuguese procession, and in one annal they had to avoid a human stampede because peasants would walk over themselves to gawk at the funny looking men. Yet nobody bothered to research this until westerners made yasuke controversial.
>>146097602The only thing I`ve seen was that crossover comic with Usagi and the Power Rangers. I haven`t gotten to reading it so I don't know if it's good or not. Space Usagi has also been getting re-releases done in color now, I have one of the issues and Emi Fuji does a great job.
>>146104340>90 percent of the time anime heroes barely even register the females in their presence but will absolutely obsess over some retarded rival.that is unironically incredibly relatableYou'd be surprised how many guys will ruin something with a girl because they were fixated on some gay shit that didn't matter
>>146121253>that is unironically incredibly relatableIf you're a faggot.>You'd be surprised how many guys will ruin something with a girl because they were fixated on some gay shit that didn't matterWell yeah but they'll also at least react to attractive women around them even if they're too dumb to pick up on the signals.
>>146120120
>>146121301I think the point still stands that they're still not gonna get the girl and that's the relatability
Welp, we now have a theme tune for Feudal America.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoGV24yjpzs
>>146121236Power rangers comic was meh
>>146121051>There really isn't a word to describe this.I dunno, "cultural drift" and "buying your own bullshit" both work.
>>146121236Stan didn't write or draw, just did a cover
Art isn't bad but this is pretty generic, whoo boy, I don't think Stan even does thought boxesStan shouldn't let others write his characters
It's always MMPR
>>146123274>middle panel>both actors are dead nowFuck.
>>146080524I know two completely separate comics with animal viruses but I do not remember any rape camels
bully Tomoe
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>>146118635>>argument about backpacksnot again
>>146125166Ok.
>>146121051>There really isn't a word to describe this.Of course there is, it's called "history"Europe did the exact same shit, possibly even worse. People didn't write down everything which makes the few periods where they actually did stand out so much (looking at you rome) but that didn't stop 'historians' from just making shit up to suit their narratives. Shit like prima nocta pretty much didn't fucking exist but if you're trying to sell a republican movement well you gotta slander the past as much as possible
The one thing he(Usagi) Will never meddle with is a lady's womb.It's not his place to meddle.
>>146124693>tomoe toes
>>146128544And then Tomoe woke up and felt frustrated.
>>146127896Oh yesSo sexy
watching this place like a hawk, huh jannie?well it's on the booru now
>>146127753>Jotaro_intensifies.gif
>>146128652keep your furry porn out of here cunt, no one cares
>>146129675don't tell us, tell Stan.
So far, the Tomoe subplot feels like it's begging to be a huge event if it ever becomes a thing again:>Obvious relationship drama, likely would end with the marriage going through given Senso>The clan she's marrying into would be connected to two clans hostile to each other, promising drama likely involving ninjas (Chizu vs the president of the Starscream FC) and giant snakes>Usagi himself did the clan a solid with the whole ice thingMeanwhile, Ishida's got his own narrative going with the>Secret Christians>Mastermind playing Moriarty in the big city>A sometime ally, sometime enemy in NezumiThen there's the multiple supernatural threads involving>Jei>The Lord of Owls>Sasuke seemingly mentoring Usagi in the art of demon slaying
>>146129675half the posts in here are waifufagging and making lewd edits of dialog
>>146129889if it was actually good i wouldnt mind, but i dont want my usagi threads getting shit up by a shotashitter who openly admits to not reading/caring for the comic then proceeding to ragebait the jannies cuz his garbage got deleted. just typical attention whore furry shit.
>>146130083Actually I did read a whole bunch during the storytime this year and I intend to be here for the entire next one. I am enjoying drawing these characters.
>>146129857>NezumiThose bits are almost comedic>You can't escape justice!>Can justice get up on this roof?>Drat!
>>146123213>>146123274This is dumb.
>>146129857Blah blah blah no one gives a shit about any of that let's see the real money shot, Stan
>>146128652what booru? collection?
>>146131643yesthe new one that is. that's linked in the drawthread OP. I say that because there are still people who don't know the original is defunct
There's a lot more /co/-generated fanart of Usagi than I thought there'd be. I was expecting like 10 pictures at the most, not five pages of it. It's a lot hornier than I thought it would be too
>>146083141Anthro girls with actual muzzles are hottest, not human-faced chicks like Tomoe. She's for "I don't really like furry stuff" guys. She's damn near a piece of shit nekomimi.
>>146131387>Usagi when a beautiful women wants him>Usagi when someone is making some mundane craft
>>146088968All I can guess is people are randomly mutating and some get the shit end of the stick. Either it was on hiatus last time I checked or it just got dropped while the camel was chasing the mouse, during which a police officer shot at her. Somehow another cop knew she was that unconscious kid's mom and chewed him out for it.
>>146089204Are you saying Endtown kicks ass (cuz some of it does), or that it's playing by Endtown's scenario for mutations?
>>146129889A /co/bro has to do what he can to get by, neh?
>>146129724...welp, time to hit up archive.org...I had a chance to buy this when I was in stores buying Furrlough and Genus, and passed it up cuz I was burned by Kirk Wilken's shitty Aztec Anthropomorphic Amazons.
>>146132214I read a copy of it online (p-purely for research purposes ) and unless you just wanted to have something with Sakai's name on it as a collectible, you didn't miss much. He only drew the cover, the stuff inside has nothing to do with him.
>>146129724>for mature readers
How would Usagi react to a Kuchisake Onna asking him if she's pretty?
>>146132214Wait, how old are you?
>>146132686
>>146131877Going to try and make some fanart when the time comes round again for the Usagi thread. Didn't follow it through all the way because life got in the middle of it sadly. Though now I'm more confident to actually practice.
>>146133477I look forward to it.Proper creative types like you are always welcome.Bottomfeeding image editors like myself on the other hand just remain here, whether people like it or not.
>>146133532Bottom feeders are an important part of the ecosystem so do not fret anon
>>146133477I like what I see already. >>146132632He opens his mouth to say something stupid but Sasuke literally [teleports behind u] and ki-blasts her head off before she can entrap Usagi in her yokai shenanigans.And speaking of /ourguy/, have you guys seen this rumor?>"On July 29, the whistleblower @ignusthewise said that the rumors about Black Myth being a trilogy are true. Prior to this, he had accurately revealed relevant information many times, such as the release of new information about Black Myth: Wukong on May 19">"He said, 'Game Science has applied for trademarks for Black Myth: Jiang Ziya and Black Myth: Zhong Kui, and they are likely to turn to the development of these two games after the release of the Black Myth: Wukong DLC.'"How do you feel about the possibility of a Shoki video game in the near future?
>>146133763I feel bad for ghosts and deamons already.
>>146133477nice, godspeed
>>146133871>the scene where Mifune' character shoots a hawk with his teppothat's not how I remember it.
>>146080454I went to a vietnamese restaurant this weekend that inexplicably had a usagi yojimbo wallpaint all around the restrooms.
>>146134230no photos?
>>146134230China is the Land of Dragons, Korea is the Land of Tigers. What would Vietnam be in the Usagi universe? I also want to see pictures if you took them. If you haven't, you must go back and take them.
>>146133763>Black Myth: Jiang Ziya and Black Myth: Zhong Kui,Aw, I wanted Erlang and Nezha
>>146134343Erlang and Nezha would probably be in Wukong DLC. I do hope that Buddha would be here as a special boss fight.
>>146134324Land of Talking Trees
>>146097157>So we get Usagi Yojimbo, where Usagi and his one true love don't get to be together.It makes some sense for Usagi. Since the entire series is based on samurai films where the characters never get happy endings.
>>146096055>t. ninja scum
>>146107143Guns DO exist in Usagi, though. Just because they're not common doesn't mean he deleted them
>>146111359I dunno, he hooked Kitsune up with Gen in the last TMNT crossover, he seems to be heading down that route even if she finally got what she fucking deserves in that story
>>146097802Usage douji-What???????Also fuck you nigger modsThe spammer psyop doesn't work
>>146134865Yeah, turns out there's at least few Japanese Usagi fans.Also it wasn't that kinda doujin, in case you were wondering.
>>146118043LMAO
>>146134887>Also it wasn't that kinda doujin, in case you were wondering.Yeah, and anon still hasn’t posted it.
>>146134887Still want either way.Cheesecake best cake
>>146134943>Yeah, and anon still hasn’t posted it.? They did though, at the end of this year's storytime after Senso.
>>146135869He said he was going to post the scans but never did.
>>146099322>shows up once>never againhonestly a real shame, I'd rather have her show up again versus a certain fox BITCH, especially with little tease of a story we got
>>146136047No, they wrote and I quote>If anyone is dedicated enough to get one, crack the spine and scanlate it properly!Which is a project I'd be happy to take on IF IT WASN'T PERMANENTLY SOLD OUT
>>146080454>herWho?
>>146080454She is best girl.
>>146117052Thought people preferred boxes on sticks, since canvas is a Chinese thing?
>>146136832She needs to have a human men.
>>146136881Oh no, it's hikiji toono, the blackface lord!
>>146136227I swear he said he was going to carefully disassemble it, scan it, and upload it here and ehentai.Guess I was wrong
>>146136881Stan gets massive props for never trying to retcon this even if it makes Hikiji completely unusable as a character
>>146137636We discuss it often but the whole Hikiji situation is weird as hell as far as central antagonists go. I don't think I've ever seen a villain so untouchable and so ... doesn't even probably know the hero even exists...able.
>>146137673When you put it like that, Hikiji is almost like Usagi's white whale: this thing that's a force of nature that isn't even aware of Usagi's existence except in the most abstract sense, that nonetheless causes him (Usagi) endless malding and seething.
>>146138141Usagi must be aware by now that Hijiki killed his dad yet never brings it up, or did Stan forget
>>146138912He knows but it's out of his hands. His dad died with honor so that really has to be enough. It's also important to remember how much Usagi changed from when he just stone killed Gunji. I wonder how he'd reflect on that now actually.
That was a fun doujin
I miss Inazuma, bros.
>>146136881>Man was the real villain all along
>>146139337To absent friends
>>146139337I liked her backstory.
>>146123213>I am a bodyguardOkay, first of all, not reallySecond of all, they'd say Yojimbo**Bodyguard
>>146123213those aren't thought boxes, they are narration boxes
>>146132100you have shit taste, nekomimis are superior.
>>146138912No he definitely knows. The first time he wanders home (this was like the 3rd or 4th issue) Mariko tells him his dad was killed by Hikiji and Kenichi was installed as village headman in his place.
>>146139337I still think male Jei having plot armor while she doesn't is bullshit
>>146141502Meh, Inazuma Jei was milked for all it was worth.
>>146142353She fought Gen and Stray Dog but not Usagi, iirc
>>146141502I think you're missing the point of why she didn't have plot armor. Jei wasn't fully able to take her over at any point. She was actively gimping Jei just from sheer force of will.
>>146140663Nekomimis are generally underage caucasian or asian girls with pasted-on animal parts. You have shit, possibly racist, and borderline pedo tastes.Oh, shit: Captcha is "ytypps"
>>146139337The madman went and redid the original panels.Fucking sick!
bad news guys the artist I usually get my usagi harem commissions from is not responding to me any more know any other cheap artists I can com?
>>146144497You must have been a creepy weirdo. Weirdo.
>>146144497I bet he died of the wasting disease brought by those accursed foreign devils!
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>>146143271I wonder if the Jei spirit isn't also just bad at controlling women. I mean, his first and third hosts (that we know of) have both been presumably celibate men of the cloth. It would be amusing if Jei in addition to being a dark spirit with a twisted moral compass, was also a sexist spirit too.
>>146146446Do remember he was originally brought out so a monk could save the ravioli
>>146143952are you really this stupid? you’d rather fuck something that looks like a literal animal?western furfags like you are fucking braindead shitstains.
>>146146660>literal animal>anthros that walk upright and are capable of speech are literal animals
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>>146146844we were talking about the snouts and the faces. not the bodies. goddamn moron
>>146141502>I still think male Jei having plot armor while she doesn't is bullshitI don't think it was ever stated but I'm pretty sure Inazuma's will was so strong he could never fully control her. She broke free several times which is more than any other host has managed. And her soul was freed at the end, she managed to survive the exorcism and her soul was saved.
>>146144497>cheap artistsWell there is your problem anon. Stop being a cheapskate.
>>146146584He doesn't seem to have a problem slaughtering women and children though. The family in Teru Teru Bozu, the passengers on that ferry.
>>146147266We never did see what happened to the family.As for the ferry, I don't recall seeing any kids on it.Besides the sweet innocent.
>>146147014This, his previous hosts accepted Jei's curse. The first host willing accepted the curse as payment for curing the ravioli (although he was unaware of what Jei would do next), and the third fully embraced it. Inazuma may have been controlled, but she was not corrupted willingly, and was constantly fighting Jei in her mind for control.
>>146147292>his previous hosts accepted Jei's curseThat's a good point. It is still funny to me to imagine that Jeicel just hates icky girls (based) though
>>146147444You're an idiot.
>>146146857the literal animal was man all along!>>146146877>Egyptian gods are literal animalsok
>>146144767>get to the Mother Of Mountains arc>Noriko ryona-ing her half-sister
>>146147509>t. JeicelTouch grass, dark spirit.
>>146147444>Only kills people who have fuckedDamn, you might be onto something.
>>146147642You're only getting this now? His name is literally JEI!! Which in Japanese would be politely JEI SAN. JEISAN!! JASON!! He's literally fucking Feudal Japanese Jason!!
>>146147669When does he fight Feudal Freddy Kruger?
>>146147669In my defense, I have never watched any of Jason's movies. I know of him through cultural osmosis only.He too only kills fuckers?
>>146147685>He too only kills fuckers?Literally every horror movie killer only killed people who had premarital sex or did drugs. This was always kind of the point of them. Everyone else was a irresponsible teen so they died except for the innocent virginal final girl.
>>146147718Interesting. You think that was the writers fetish or something?
>>146147731I think it's a fundamental aspect of story telling that goes back further than the dawn of film.
>>146147778I doubt that.I don't recall hearing or reading any stories like that.
>>146147792I'm beginning to wonder if you've heard or read any stories at all.
>>146147802Can you give me some examples then?
>>146147669Stan has even said he intentionally named Jei this in reference to Jason.
>>146147821well there's the aforementioned Jason and slasher movies, practically every fairy tale, Myth or legend ever written, a not insignificant portion of the pulps and Jesus fucking Christ read literally goddamn anything.
