Talk about anything transformers>"I've made some fumbles, i've become humble, so says Rumble"
the sentinel thread seems to have become the TF general for the time being
Okay, but what if there were several TF threads?All at once?Will ONE get it's sequel?
Why was Transformers One such ass? I kept being told how great it was, so I finally watched it. It's just yet another shitty kids cartoon.
>>146111146I miss Hotrod.The Death of Optimus will always loom over him, and that makes him unlikely to appear. I did like his stressed out personality in G1 after the movie.I
>>146111146I got this studio series core class frenzy at gaystop yesterday. I really hope they continue core class assortment but i have a feeling its getting cancelled
>>146112930>Paradron bots collectively mourn their now destroyed planet, leaving centuries of culture and hard work behind>Rodimus: "YEAH BUT CYBERTRON'S FAR BETTER ANYWAYS"
Will the upcoming GI Joe/Transformers crossover kill or save both brands?
>>146113927i don't think anyone actually cares too much about GI joe nowadayshasbro keeps trying to make it a recognizable brand but it simply isn't something they can do anymore
>>146113927It will do nothing for either of them, but if it releases on the summer, it will probably make more money than Transformers One.
>>146113927Probably won't attract much people since G.I Joe is a dead brand and Transformers has fallen out of the public's favor. IF they manage to make it enjoyable, then it could be a nice blockbuster; a lot of fans, myself included, have said that some of the best moments of the Bayverse were the autobots going on missions with NEST. If it is requiered for your Transformers film to have humans in a prominent role, then yeah it's far more engaging if they're soldiers instead of following Shia's love life for 3/4 of the runtime. You can even make some parallels between the Cybertronians and humans on their endless cycle of war. Or just dumb action, if executed well I'm fine with any of those options.
Next time can we leave out the "Yet Another" in the title? Anyway I think Agent Fowler and Silas are good human characters worth keeping in future series>>146113927ROTB pissed me off so much right after the goodwill Bumblebee had
>>146113927Its worked in the comics before but I don't trust the makers of the live-action films to competently cross them over. They really screwed up with Snake Eyes solo movie and ROTB was also mediocre.
is Transformers One a flop?
Shadow Striker is a character I think many are sleeping on>Autobot>Go on a mission with Bumblebee>Mission goes south, whole unit falls, Bumblebee flees thinking she's dead>She's clinging to life because she's so pissed at Bumblebee>Decepticons drag her worthless body to Megatron>Megatron is impressed at her will to live and rage>Shockwave starts experimenting on her, trying to see why she endures >Fix her up using the parts of her fallen team>Becomes a Decepticon for revenge
>>146114212The story seemed really boilerplate, downright generic in places. The visuals were nice though, and I enjoyed seeing Cybertron before it got fucked to death by endless war. Megatron taking control of the proto-cons was great, I loved that shit.
>>146113927Can they just do a crossover with a mech series instead
>>146113927>>146113937>>146113972>>146114001>>146114266Why the hell does so many zoomers hate gi joe? Cobra commander is one of the best characters hasbro owns
>>146114306I'm in my 30s and have never given much of a shit about GI Joe, Transformers were always cooler to me all the way back to early childhood. I had a couple hand-me-downs but otherwise the closest I got to the franchise was getting some CORPS figures from the dollar store.
i can't believe starscream is fucking dead over a movie................
>>146114306The franchise has been in a decline in popularity since the 90s with each new version sorta failing to really connect with enough of an audience. GI Joe Extreme, the live-action movies, etc... It still has an audience but kids have likely moved on to other flashier franchises or stuck with franchises that are a bit more cartoony. Like Transformers, to a kid, is about giant robots fighting but GI Joe is seen by many as more of a military action thing and stuff like COD replaced it as the go-to military action franchise.
>>146114306Cobra and the ninja stuff is cool and all but even as a kid it never caught my attention like other franchises - TMNT, Transformers, Marvel etc... and Im not even a zoomer
I have a hard time picking between Soundwave and Shockwave as my favorites. Shockwave is really cool, has the awesome senator Shockwave story, his whole "logic is his true master over the Decepticons" thing. The fact that he's both the smart one and built like a fucking tank. But Soundwave is superior to otherwise inferior Autobots.
>>146114306Cause the Snake Eyes movie which isn't really a Snake Eyes movie and more of a ninja themed action thriller and the Rock GI Joe movies are the only things they really have connected to the series. In their eyes it's nothing but a military themed MCU Avengers movie
READY TO SHAKE, READY TO QUAKE!
>>146112930for what its worth, Cyberverse Hot Rod exists and is probably the most amount of care and respect he's ever gotten.
You now remember Darby wore heels for Opty
>>146114239When she transforms, crotch is literally right out in front of the car on the bumper. Just saying. In case fred perry is around.
we got em
>>146113927>Will the upcoming GI Joe/Transformers crossover kill or save both brands?The upcoming GI Joe/Transformers FLOP will be the final nail in the coffin for Xitter.The public backlash from the general public being hoodwinked and bamboozled by persistent, autistic YouToop influencers shilling for their brand into going out to watch maudlin mediocre schlock will be the last straw that cripples and topples that derelict cesspool of anti-social media platform.
>>146113927No one cares about GI Joe so
RUMBLES A TREE
>>146115408NOO, these mermaids can't keep getting away with this!!
>>146114306I agree with that one anon who said their appeal pretty much fizzled out when shit like Call Of Duty became popular, I get G.I Joe has more in common with something like S.H.I.E.L.D than an actual war themed IP, but they just got outcompeted.
>>146115717I guess COD is too dull for me i always liked the flashier GI joe but i know teenage boys are plebs who think bright colors and fantastic elements are "fake and gay and lame" so they want all that tacticool brown and beige shit instead
>>146114266They should really do that DC crossover they wanted to do, but then again it's probably just asking to make it all about how the robots sex and robot kiss.But then again i would want to see Cybertron's Green Lantern and how the galaxy percieve's Cybertron's war, like how Rom had Stardrive did it.For example:>"We encountered these mechanical lifeforms Hal, we need to help them!">"What a retarded decision Clark, that's a fucking Cybertronian, EVERY world they touch down on is ruined by their endless war. They've been at it for MILLIONS of years."
>>146115408
So is Cybertron still in Sol’s system in the original cartoon series after it’s blown from Earths orbit?
>>146114212In box office? Absolutely. In quality? I'd call it the third-best movie in the franchise.
>>146116207What's second best?
>>146114306COBRA is most of the appeal
Thoughts?
>>146115220This might be an unpopular opinion but....I think I like the TFO primes designs
I'm cool making Sentinel the asshole bot. Did that first start in TFA? Also I heard they originally wanted to call War for Cybertron Zeta Prime "Sentinel". Is that true?
>>146116270To me? Bumblebee.
>>146114799Scale is screwy with transformers, especially combiners. Folks like to make'em Megazord-sized when really they'd only be big enough to go toe-to-toe with a mobile suit.
>>146116871Combiners' scale fuckery is rationalized in some continuities by them literally being more than the sum of their parts. Devastator for instance isn't as strong as six bots but more like sixty.
>>146116871Tell me about it. That's why I mostly gave up on figure displays being accurate in terms of size
I've found that knockoff Transformers can sometimes be as good, if not better, than officially licensed stuff. Plus there's an entire custom market out there, with upgrade kits you can slap onto stuff like Legacy figures.I've recently gotten back into TF figure collecting, and boy is it a rabbit hole. I want to get an 86 Ironhide, Jazz, and Wheeljack for starters to go with my Optimus, Bumblebee, and Ratchet
>>146114239essentially Armada Wheeljack for Bumblebee. granted they did that with Breakdown in EarthSpark but after the recent batch that dynamic's ruined.
>>146117003Didn't watch Earthspark, didn't care for TFP Breakdown. The BEST take on Breakdown is the War for Cybertron game were he's a nervous wreck always on the verge of a panic attack. Great characterization for the Stunticon
>>146117031yeah WFC Breakdown was definitely peak, i miss the paranoia schizo angle about him.
>>146112913>It's just yet another shitty kids cartoon.If that's your takeaway from it, then you obviously haven't watched it, and are on the wrong board.
>>146115220Love him. Still iffy on Devastator though.
>>146117050Which I think is a great gimmick and contrast to the other Stunticons. They're a team of thrill seeking psychos, so I love the idea of one of them being a constant coward who can pull off these insane feats much to his mental detriment. Kinda like how Silverbolt is a jet.....WHOS AFRAID OF HEIGHTS
>>146117100desu, G1 Silverbolt's kinda a lame wet blanket. i feel like the BW characterization the cheesy do-gooder hero persona would've fit G1 better and also it would've better contrast the rest of the Aerialbots being asshole mavericks in the Sunbow show.
>>146117095My thing on Devastator figures is that the collector has to pick one of 3 things to be good while sacrificing the other two points of articulation; you can have a great looking bot, a great vehicle, or a good Devastator part that looks good collectively. You can't have all 3 unfortunately
>>146114306I hate the LIVE ACTION GI Joe movies. If the movie was animated I would 100% be into it.
>>146117124My thing is I already have CW Devvy. So its hard to justify another one.
>>146116446This is the correct take
>>146117147I dont have one yet. Was thinking of just getting knockoff Devastator and Bruticus later
>>146117175They're doing Bruticus too. And Superion.
>>146116446>>146117158Is it blasmpehy to swap Bumblebee and The TF 80s Movie? Because while there is some fondness to the 80s movie, I think it's also severely flawed. As someone said before, the film is basically just music videos cut together. The script is disjointed, no clear connection between what is happening on Cybertron and what is happening on the Junkicon world with Wreck-Gar and the Quintessons. Unicron is cool, but at the end of the day the film exists to wipe out much of the G1 cast for the sake of "The new blood"While Bumblebee is very much an ET film, I think it excels in being the only true good live action TF film. Bots look the way they should, self contained I think it works. ROTB was shit though
>>146116446Besides the first one, I can't tell which Bayverse movie is which
>>146117199Yeah but some KOs are just as good for a fraction of the price
>>146117249The 2007 film is still bad but as a highlight has Blackout. That opening feels like a completely different film than the rest. The glasses plot point is irrelevant, and making The Allspark a fucking object is a stupid idea. ROTF was that lame shit in Egypt with Devastator. AOE was crap with nanobots making Galvatron and Dinobots out of nowhere. Last Knight pissed me off too
>>146117065I already posted my review before, but I did not like this movie.It doesn't have good voice acting, but I knew that going in due to the cast. I wasn't expecting it to be this tedious, but it was just boring voice work for the most part. I think it would have definitely elevated the script with better voices. Jon Bailey being in the film was great. it should have been a bigger part. It was a Hollywood animated film instead of being an animated film. There's a lot of connecting with characters that comes from a performance, and when you don't hire good voice actors for a voice role, that makes it difficult. The writing was just bizarre. It wasn't the most mind-blowing film. It was certainly better than all the live action films, the characters were growing, and it seemed on pace. I didn't really care about any of the characters, but they were actually characters. Then, it all quickly turned to crap. It just felt like they cut out 20-40 minutes of the film. Megatron was doing this slow turn to evil, Optimus was becoming more jaded, and then suddenly Megatron was just a full on bad guy and Optimus was just given the Matrix and then Megatron was beaten and Cybertron was suddenly restored and then Optimus is narrating as they do an outro jump scene. Credits. That was all in like 15 minutes. It gave me whiplash. Was there a time constraint on the film or something? Did they only have 90 minutes to use? If so, who not cut out some of the jokes and annoying bits to spend time developing characters more? I have no idea what happened here. The whole film just fell apart completely in the final act. The worst part the people who like the film fully recognize these problems. They just then start claiming you didn't understand that film despite having the same issues.4/10
>>146115796That's true, Tacticool is the rule of cool these days, probably the same reason comics got more edgy in the later 2000s and 2010s.
>>146117289>and making The Allspark a fucking object is a stupid idea.They wanted to use the Matrix. But Paramount was all like "derp, people will confuse it with the Keanu Reeves movie" and they had to change.
I wish Rails was canon.
>>146117321NTA but if you didn't understand Megatron's arc then I think you're genuinely retarded
>>146117356Wow, he even called you doing this in his last sentence, and you did it anyway.
>>146117349That's not much better honestly. To have The Matrix of Leadership not on Prime is fucking retarded. And lo and behold it became a plot point of ROTF. And while we're at it, I'm sick of macguffin artifact hunt scripts! That's all half of these goddamn movies are!>We need to find The Allspark>We need to find The Matrix of Leadership to stop The Fallen's sun eater machine>We need to find the Transwarp Key to prevent Unicron from entering our solar system
>>146117388Because he is fucking retarded, anon, and its worth telling him. It's not a hard plot or script to understand. It's not even deep
>>146117352Sky Lynx is not a good character. There, I said it. His robot mode is lazy and weird
>>146116207I'd call it the best, better than the original movie even.
>>146117414He clearly understood the arc. He said it was rushed and unsatisfying.
While I fucking hate most of the live action movies, I think a few of them admittedly have new bots worth keeping around for future series/comics. See that's the great thing about Transformers, almost every installment has one diamond in the rough idea worth sticking around. Movie characters that come to mind are:>Blackout>Nitro Zeus>Battletrap>Shatter
do you prefer triple changers being something "naturally" ocurring in how a bot is built(G1, IDW, etc) or the result of a fucked up experiment for the arms race (Animated, Dreamwave)
>>146117349That explains why in One they ALWAYS say "the Matrix of Leadership" and never just "the Matrix".
>>146117435He was never really a Transformer. Hasbro went to Japan, saw a robot toy that vaguely turns into something else, and went "yeah, that'll work".Same with Omega Supreme.
>>146117349The more I hear about Pramounts meddling the more I feel they're just out of touch with the whole universeCase in point: the marketing for TFO
>>146117567You have no idea. Wanna know why AOE, TLK, and to lesser extent RotB are so messy? They keep combining two scripts/story concepts into one.
>>146117550I think beast modes (not BW techno-organic, just animal looking) and triple changers should be early days designs protoforms were given, but now far less common. Beast modes were designed because at the time there were no cities and bots needed unique ways to traverse the planet surface. Triple changers could follow the same logic, basically the transition into vehicle models when cities began but were discontinued because of how unstable they were. So guys like Blitzwing and Shatter are unique cases, modern bots that lucked out and can have two modes. Now shifters, bots who can basically become anything if they have the right mass, should be even rarer. We can equate all of these things to genetics
>>146117558Omega Supreme at least works. He's a giant heavy hitting Autobot that can turn into a spaceship/rocket.
One thing I liked about TFO? Establishing Shockwave's hatred of women with Elita-1 socking him right in the eye
>>146117783FEMALES
>>146117443People were saying this about Rise of the Beast too. It came out, I hated it and everyone told me I was crazy. Then the hype went away and everyone sees it the way I saw it when it came out. Transformers One is still new and Transfans are so hungry for content that slop like RotB and Earthspark satisfied them until time passed enough for them to evaluate properly. This will be the same.>>146117356>>146117388>>146117414>>146117473Exactly, it goes from A through T hitting every letter along the way, but then it goes from T to W to Z. Skipping vital character beats that leave the whole thing just feeling empty. Especially since I already barely liked Megatron to begin with. All the characters sucked really, but if they had at least at satisfying arcs then it could be a passable film. They don't though. Megatron skips cutscenes and Optimus is just given a deus ex machina. Like I said, its as if 40 minutes were cut. It ruins everything and it goes from okay to terrible in the final act.
>>146117839I never defended ROTBs fuck off. I dont know what exactly you felt was cut about Megatron's arc
>>146117839>People were saying this about Rise of the Beast tooNo one defended ROTB what are you talking about
>>146117839Well I haven't watched RotB nor Earthspark so I can't speak for those.But I truly believe TFO to be better than the Transformers the Movie, it's good, but as someone with absolutely no nostalgia for it, it's far from perfect.Still better than all Bay movies tho.
where would we be if we got a good faithful live action transformers trilogy instead of EXPLOSIONS! TIDDIES! TESTICLES! HUMANS YELLING LOUDLY!
>>146117870I would have to watch the film again to get into specifics. I had just finished the camrip when I wrote my review and I had to be, that movie drained out of my brain fast. It was not memorable at all outside of the race scene.>>146117888>gaslightingI wasn't on /co/ much but there was some praise here. There was more on X, Discord, and Facebook.>normiesphereDoesn't mean it wasn't happening. There is a whole world outside of 4chan and they get just as much political power as you do.
>>146117839>Transfans are so hungry for content that slop like RotB and EarthsparkJust making shit up now are we?
>>146117991I have no nostalgia for Transformers. I grew up on Beast Wars and was stupid. I thought the Unicron Trilogy was a ripoff of Beast Wars, confused why anyone would want to play with cars over animals. I then didn't touch the franchise until a few episodes of Animated here and there, but Dark Cyberton was when I read through all of IDW. I then followed it and Prime and haven't quit. I've gone back watched 90% of the shows and have storytimed every Transformers comic ever on /co/. I was trying to do GI Joe, but I haven't been able to keep up.Anyway, the 1986 film is still the best movie. It is well directed, gorgeously animated, well written, and has a ton of memorable moments. One goes nowhere close to that with anything. I think its not even fair to compare any of the films to that, its a near masterpiece of animation.Bumblebee sucked too, it was just 2007 with nostalgiabait, a chick and a worse love interest. The closest Bay got to a watchable film was AOE, its just fun. It kills off the lame comic relief brutally early on, setting a tone. It has no annoying Shia and instead has Whalberg hamming it up. It has Frasier. Nicola Peltz in booty shorts as the sexiest female lead. It has the best Optimus design and Lockdown is a badass villain. Not only do we get giant robot dinosaurs, but Optimus Prime riding a giant robot t-rex. The new way the Decpticons transform is great, with [CENSORED HASBRO FRANCHISE] turning into a gun. Galvatron's introduction is fantastic and Optimus uses a sword. The Transformers actually have color now, the Transformers are actually characters now. It also has the best action scenes as Michael Bay finally realized he could get away with R-rated level gore. I don't think any of the live action films have been good, but fuck me if AOE isn't a blast.>>146118213Dude, you have got to talk to people off of 4chan. Earthspark was universally praised until season two, specifically because of that one thing that I'm not going to bring up.
I had an idea for transformer reproduction where a male and female touch their sparks together causing energy build-up resulting in a new spark ready for a protoform.
>>146118400>AOE defenderStay away from underage girls.
>>146118400>Anyway, the 1986 film is still the best movieNot with that ass middle part.
>>146118400>with [CENSORED HASBRO FRANCHISE] turning into a gunWhat?
>>146117839When ROTB came out every critic talked trash about it and TF fans were mixed. A lot of people said it was hype, but a lot of others didn't. It was a point of discussion of people wanting Transformers to be back and the ones who knew the movie was not all that. Earthspark has been mainly ignored, especially after S2 had a change in animation, and now people are critical about it because S2's writing wasn't as good as they expected.TF One is a genuinely good movie. It doesn't have the things that held back Earthspark or ROTB, it's just a solid entertaining film with good characters. It's not going to be disregarded years later when something else comes out, because chances are, nothing as good as it will come out in a long time. The GI Joe crossover movie will be such a disaster people will just remember how great One was.
>>146118400>The new way the Decpticons transform is greatI too love floating CGI particle effects.
>>146118400>Dude, you have got to talk to people off of 4chan
>>146118497https://youtu.be/MD4AulkzdJE?t=420
>>146118035>I would have to watch the film again to get into specifics. I had just finished the camrip when I wrote my review and I had to be, that movie drained out of my brain fast. It was not memorable at all outside of the race scene.I feel like you're full of it and refuse to actually elaborate
>>146117521>Shatter Her design would let her fit right in with the Prime cast. Any artwork of that?
>>146118796Not that I can find. My general rule is that if you can't simplify it to fit G1, then the design probably isn't strong. That's not to say G1 is the end all be all, but simple designs are often stronger and can become more versatile. That's why G1 Bumblebee's head is normally better than the stuff we've seen over the past few years inspired by Bay
Im fascinated by the concept of a Decepticon medic. Is Knock-Out also an interrogator? He's in that same category as Astrotrain, the Constructicons, and Stunticons where they're clearly from the labor class of old Cybertron, yet chose to side with the Decepticons. It's just always cool to see non-military designed bots rolling with that faction
>>146119196Been a while since I watch Prime and my memory is spotty, but I think he handled interrogation duties, yeah. Having non-combat-oriented bots join the Decepticons plays very well with the underclass uprising version of their origins.
>>146119196The whole "Decepticon medic" thing has been done like three times now to varying degrees of success.>Flatline from the IDW comics who's not really well known but still kinda cool since he's just an actual mad doctor>Knock Out from Prime who's the most popular of them all and is probably the best character from Prime>Scalpel from the movies who's got a really cool concept of being a teeny tiny little Decepticon operating on people
>>146119494Scalpel is more of a mad scientist than a medic. We already have Shockwave as our Con scientist too. But people have previously suggested maybe retooling Scalpel as Shockwave and Knockout's assistant/Igor. He would just need an updated design
>>146119196>>146119494There's also Glit, and recently this guy.
>>146119196Knockout is FABULOUS!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DxIYYtpWyQ
Kinda interesting that TFO Megatron has 3 guns he can swap between, 4 if you count his vehicle mode cannon>The classic arm cannon (most powerful, slow)>The rapid fire triple barrel (medium in terms of fire rate and power)>The left handed mini blaster (fast but lacks punch)
>>146119728Looks like the triple replaces the classic completely when he switches cogs, which is a shame. I like the triple fine, but I loved One's look for the classic. His tank cannon definitely counts, though it makes sense that he only uses it once in robot mode.
>>146119728Design wise, I wish they had retained his round cannon when he turned full on Megatron at the end
what a lot of people forget about the live action movies is that the human/cybertronian ratio needs to be maintained due to budgethaving giant robots that turn into cars in a live action environment costs a fuck ton to animate, so you have three choices1. increase the action but lower the screentime used for character development for the cybertronians2. lower the action to focus on screentime for character development of the cybertronians3. put in human characters and plotlines as it costs less, so you can have enough budget to give ample screentime for the cybertronians in both action and character developmentthey *could* give us a fully animated live action style war for cybertron movie like the scene in bumblebee, but the CGI budget would be astronomical, and by that point why not just make an animated movie? (plus in my opinion kids wouldnt want to watch a movie in that style)this is where ONE succeeds, by having it be an animated movie it means the costs are kept down, you dont need to add in human characters or plotlines and you can focus entirely on character development and action for the cybertronians
>>146119889I think he has a new gun in the after credits scene. Also he may not be able to use the triple barrel anymore after Prime cleaved it. I like how the upcoming Threezero figure lets you swap any gun. Wish it had the Decepticon logo and orginal D16 black head though>>146119957I'm just going to assume he can use both.Also random thought but we really need to show more examples of Transformers fighting with their adaptive body parts. Like when Prime turtled his head to avoid gunfire, or when Elita-1 rotated to do that grapple move. It's a visually striking idea future shows/comics need to use
>>146120007wait i worded this badlyhold on, I'll give the proper argument when I work it out
When it comes to human characters, I think you only really need ONE civilian to round out the cast. Like say for example you only need Jack and his mom from TFP, or Charlie from Bumblebee. The rest should be soldiers or government people. I say this because in reality these are the types of people the Autobots are going to mingle with most, and its easy for a soldier to bond with the bots given their experiences. On the other end I think having the Decepticons have unsteady alliances with humans like Silas and MECH is also worth exploring in future stuff considering we're so used to just seeing them independent. Sure Megs likely hates humanity, but why not use people and have people navigate the planet for him?
>>146120007>what a lot of people forget about the live action movies is that the human/cybertronian ratio needs to be maintained due to budgetI am completely aware of that, it's one of the main reasons I don't like the live-action movies in the first place, like many other properties, Transformers work better fully animated.
>>146120020>swappable chest>no option for the burned-on logo>no option for the branded logoThat's a damned shame.
I just wish the bay movies had better plots, even by just a little. After the first movie it made zero sense, even with the amazing action
>>146120149I hoping that changes in the final product. Earliest shipment is June of next year
>>146120361First movie isn't even good in terms of script>"We have to find the glasses to locate the Allspark!">Sam and company are abducted by Sector 7, and are led to it anyway>Optimus and the other bots dont even need the glasses anymore because Bee alerts them that they have the cube after leaving the dam
>>146120426the glasses were a means to an end, the Allspark. the glasses not mattering once it turned out Sector 7 had it in their possession doesn't matter.
>>146113927>>146114306I don't hate it on principle, and I can see how it would work on paperBut I'm told people have been burned on the concept too many timesI've also never given too much of a fuck about GI Joe but I'm optimistic about the Skybound stuff I've read
>>146120572But anon, there was no means for them at all. Sector 7 would have found Sam and Bee regardless, and nothing would have changed
>>146118684>why don't you remember that film you disliked that you watched well over a month agoAnon. I don't even remember what I had for breakfast this morning.
>>146120610Anon that's legit concerning if you can't retain basic information. Not insulting you, but have you been tested for ADD or something?
>>146120426>>146120361I kinda miss sam even if he was a complete loser https://youtu.be/-qt5f2mUYSM?si=6B-Al24OwMiqTmVn
>>146118400>liking AOE pixel formersI want to kill you
>>146120361When these movies came out I used to sometimes just replay the action scenes either on DVD or on YouTube over and over again, like the Blackout opening in 2007, Ironhide/Sideswipe/Optimus doing a cool compilations or the third act of DotM, this probably has left my overall impression and memories of these movies a lot higher, though I think I'm not alone.
>>146120671>like the Blackout opening in 2007I think that's the only good scene of the entire Bay franchise. Also where the fuck is my Legacy/G1 style Blackout, Hasbro?
>>146120623Too much information here, but I got hit by a car when I was in my twenties and it caused brain damage. I process information faster, I seriously got smarter. I gained an internal monologue. That was rough, suddenly hearing a voice in your head that wasn't there before. I also have terrible memory issues now. If its not important, or doesn't leave an impact, I won't remember it. I watched The Clovehitch Killer about a month ago and remember that, it was a good film that left an impact. Conversely, if I hadn't wrote it down then I wouldn't have remembered that I saw Terrifer 3 last week. I basically have a list of film reviews on my PC just so I can just crtl+f to make sure I'm not rewatching something.
>>146120671I remember watching the Drill scene a lot and being disappointed when Optimus was just stuck in those wires later for what felt like 20 minshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzVZAFTFIVM
>>146120732>I gained an internal monologue.That's called having the ability to think and process information, anon. Everyone fucking has that
>>146120588But it would. Sam was only involved because of the glasses. The glasses need to exist to connect Sam to the plot.
>>146120769No, a lot of people don't have an internal monologue and I didn't before my concussion.https://www.businessinsider.com/i-have-no-inner-monologue-2024-9https://bossproject.com/podcast/not-everyone-has-an-internal-monologue-including-my-husbandhttps://www.iflscience.com/people-with-no-internal-monologue-explain-what-its-like-in-their-head-57739https://eccentricemmie.medium.com/only-30-50-of-people-have-an-internal-monologue-b75125ca5694
>>146120703If it happened it wouldn't look as cool as your picture. It would be some compromised pretool of some random Unicron Trilogy helicopter guy.
>>146120781The story would have still unfolded the same because Sam bought Bumblebee at the used car lot. It's a contrivance that goes nowhere and had no payoff
>>146120799Everyone in those articles is legitimately autistic/retarded, acting on impulse/emotion rather than cognitive thought.
>>146120820Sam bought Bumblebee because Bumblebee wanted to be bought to get near him. Remember: his dad had no money for a car of that budget, so Bee had to fuck up all other cars in the garage with his sonic weapon to get the salesguy to let him go with Sam.
>>146120844Then that's 30-50% of the population.
>>146120886I know what I said. The ratio of stupid is at least that high.
>>146120876I think you're missing the point here. The glasses don't do what the plot wrote them for. The allspark literally falls into their laps. In a tweaked script you could just as easily say Bee was just blending in until Optimus gave the word to move on
>>146120898I was just trying to be more optimistic.
>>146120937I can't agree, because plot devices aren't about being a lean story all the time, they also exist to increase some depictions. For the example Sam talking about his glasses both allows us to see him being a weirdo in high school that sets hiim up as an underdog teenager and also allowed the story to seamlessly bring in the stuff about his relative being part of the expedition that found Megatron.
Serious question; are seasons 4 and 5 of G1 (post movie) worth watching? I don't care for Galvatron, and would miss Prime, but I'm curious
>>146118573>>146120656Why is it bad that they did something new that looked cool?
Should weapons be held or an extension of Cybertronians morphing their bodies?
>>146119728Man I gotta get all the official art for this movie. I like how they show how small small they were cogless compared to with a cog
>>146120007>what a lot of people forget about the live action movies is that the human/cybertronian ratio needs to be maintained due to budgetIt's why no one likes the live action. In my opinion, Transformers as a whole excels in animation, 2D or 3D. It just doesn't work in live action
>>146120020>It's a visually striking idea future shows/comics need to useIt's wild to me how TFO is the only Transformers media that actually used transforming in combat.
>>146121182It didn't look cool man, it looked like cheap CGI effects, one of the coolest parts of the Transformers is that they actually transform pushing and shifting their whole bodies, turning into a bunch of boring ass obvious computer polygons instead sucks.
>>146121314Is there an art book? Because I'll buy it. >>146121350Right? I think its wild to think that for 40 years we've been stuck in the mentality of 2 modes when really we should be taking advantage of how bots move in general
>>146117521I’d throw in Mohawk, Dropkick, and Stinger as well. >Mohawk I think would pair well with Nitro Zeus as a duo of thugs. Everyone loves the big guy/little guy pairings, and I liked their one line of dialogue together in the Last Knight. Plus G1 needs more Motorcycle Bots so that could be a plus. I imagine he’d have a head similar to Human Bebop from TMNT.>Dropkick feels like you need to include because I liked the pair he and Shatter/Fracture made in Bumblebee. To differ the two I’d maybe merge him with ROTB Battletrap to make him a pickup (Like his original 07 Movie toy) or tow truck/helicopter triple changer since Battletrap is already a relatively known G1 Duocon.>Stinger I think can work as an easy evil Decepticon Cliffjumper/Bumblebee/Bumper repaint to go alongside Bug Bite, or something I pitched in a different thread as a new name for a Movie Scorponok stand-in (Like the unused G1 Scorpion Cassette) to go alongside Blackout.
>>146121480>I think its wild to think that for 40 years we've been stuck in the mentality of 2 modesIt's even worse because Transformers have a very interesting way they can fight in combat BECAUSE of their transforming. And that's pretty much exclusive to them. And yet it's never been depicted in combat until nowTFO proved that you could do so much with fights because of their unique ability that isn't just "shooting each other"
Masterforce is the best classic TF season/series. Combines everything I love about Transformers and toku and ends up going way underappreaciated.
>>146121480>Is there an art book?I honestly don't know. I've been seeing art for the movie flying around but no word of an actual artbookIf there is one I'd buy it immediately
>>146114306I'm starting to hate GI Joe more and more with how much it latches onto Transformers like a malignant tumour for any shred of relevancy
>>146114306Cobra is funny but the Joes are so fucking bland and boring compared to both them and the Transformers they're crossing over with that it almost becomes annoying how much Hasbro wants to push GI Joe as the next big thing, no matter how many times they fail.Like hey, remember the Snake Eyes movie that failed?Or the fact that Transformers Prime's ending was supposed to be a lead in to a Hasbro shared universe that never went anywhere?Or RotB ending with GI Joe instead of things people actually care about like the fucking Predacons?If the Transformers absolutely need human organizations running alongside the Cybertronians just use fucking Earth Defense Command and MECH, nobody really cares about the Joes.
>>146112930It's funny that Hotrod got sidelined into the nether, while Arcee is front and center. I miss Hotrod with his friends
>>146121804I miss Hotrod. I liked him better than Bee
>>146114306Because they keep stitching it onto my series about giant robots fighting each other. I don't give a fuck about GI Joe, stop forcing this dead brand onto transformers to try and eek out some sales.
>>146121491Wasn't Dropkick already a thing before the Bumblebee movie?
Any collectors here with the Studio Series 86 Ratchet? Motherfucker refuses to transform into car mode completely, and I'm afraid to apply force to the windshield
>>146119494There's also Oilslick from Animated who was more of a Virologist then a straight Medic, but it works for a Con. I personally am a fan of his pic related design for a G1 Setting, where he's a mix of Movie Colored G1 Ratchet and GO! Decepticon Ratchet.>>146121860It was name retroactively given to the truck drones from the G1 Episode War Dawn, which was taken from the videogame drones based on the 07 Movie Toy, so no the name has never been used in a major way besides the Bumblebee version.
Honestly transformers should ditch cartoons/3D animation and move entirely to anime
>>146122055I miss Armanda
>>146122055G1 to me is the original cartoon, the movie, and its Japan only seasons. I closely associate stuff like Masterforce and Victory to Transformers moreso than the other stuff because it aired in my country. In my head THAT is Transformers. Idgaf about Earthspark, Bayformers, IDW etc and never will.
>>146117783>Elita-1 punched him in the eye>Arcee shot him in the eye in PrimeJeez, wonder what Chromia or Windblade would do
wait.speaking of shockwave, why didnt they get corey burton to voice him in ONE?not that the voice he is given is bad (I think its good but too emotionally charged) and I know the reason why corey turned down voicing some bots in the live action moviesjust seemed like a missed opportunity?
>>146123104Same reason they didn't get a vasy majority of VA's to voice characters in ONEParamount is operating on the ancient belief that star power = more ticket sales. Despite that not mattering or having any pull in sales for over 20 years now
>>146123127pretty sure every minor character (except starscream) is voiced by a literal who
>>146123153But 90% of the marketing for TFO was about all the star power in the movie
>>146123153MINERS??
>>146123179yeah but its not relevant for shockwave
I thought Clancy Brown was TFO Soundwave, but I was wrong. Did anyone else make that mistake?
>Prima is one of the most important and strongest of the Thirteen>Nova Prime has his moments like how he's a major character in IDW and became Nemesis Prime there>Zeta Prime got to be the Matrix bearer in Transformers One>Sentinel gets the spotlight every now and then, basically the second most recurring Prime barring OptimusGuardian Prime bros when the FUCK will it be our turn?
>>146123104I just keep hoping we get a Hal 9000 type voice for Shockwave someday
>>146123258>Megatron me boy! Gimme some whales to turn into Energon!
>>146121822I'd like to see some new iteration doing their take on classic Hot-Rod, going from thrill seeking punk to a capable and responsable leader. Since that role's been taken by Bumblebee during the last decade tho, the only way I can see them doing it is by returning Bee to his original role (friendly scout, overall not too rebellious and a good soldier)
do you think action masters could work in current transformers if they were cybertronians that intentionally removed their own t-cogs to keep their own energon consumption low
>>146111146>"THIS THREAD IS NOW A TERRITORY OF THE GLORIOUS DECEPTICON EMPIRE!">"MAY MIGHTY, SUPREME MAGNIFICENT LEADER MEGATROOOON LEAD US TO VICTORY!"
>>146123434He should get a better name first "Guardian" is too mundane. Like if you want to stick with a G-word maybe like Gamma Prime.
>>146111146>Talk about anything transformersRavage is the man, Soundwave is the dog.
>>146123817I love you, Lugnut. I want a new figure of you
>>146123893>"No ravage this is myyyy Energon, if you wanted some, you should have brought your own energon"
>>146123893>>146124395>"My name is Soundwave! I'm soundwavery guy! Everything made out of buttons and wires. I'd like to watch you, and then I'll tell you the time! Yes sir its EZ2B an evil bot just like me. When you do it all digit-tal-lyyyyyyyyyyEEEEEEEEE!
>>146121292They're robots, so really they should have their own weapons as part of themselves, but I think it's still worth keeping separate weapons around.
>>146113927They killed it Transformers already with RotB being done by a guy more concerned about being black than anything else.
Im tempted to get all of those newly announced Constructicons.
How would you guys redo the idea of organic headmasters? For me it would be antagonist humans or a humanoid faction piloting cybertronian or psuedocybertronian bodies. Like Silas from TFP
>>146123569I could see that.
Is IDW Ultra Magnus technically a pretender?I understand actual pretenders are present in IDW, but Ultra Magnus is a smaller cybertronian who wears power armor that makes him look larger like the western version of Pretenders.
If there is/will be a Galvatron in the Transformers One universe, how do you suppose he'll come to be? Will he be an entirely different character from Cybertron's future or past? Will he be Megatron after an upgrade, and if so, will it be a simple recolor (like the Unicron trilogies) or an entirely new being wholly separate from Megatron (like the G1 cartoons)?
>>146117232Shut the fuck up 86 is A perfect film. The connection is they’re both robots you stupid NIGGER. You sound like reviewers watching when it came out, what’s happening? What’s going on? Quintesson and junk planet are two different planets you fucking RETARD.
>>146124975(You) really are trying too hard. There are better ways to bump the thread
>>146124975watch your cholesterol grampa, it's gotta be getting up there with all that malding
>>146124927I'm hoping he's his own bot in the One continuity, since Megs already had two upgrades in One.
>>146124975Jesus Christ, anon, I'm an oldfag myself and love the '86 movie, but there's no need to lose it.
>>146121366Bayformers transformations always looked like trash, they're a giant hodgepodge of CGI moving around already. At least this way they can do cool stuff with it like transform while going through objects.
>>146125726That's not really cool, it just looks bland and cheap.
>>146125726That's even worse. It's a mess of cubes instead of a mess of random small parts.
whats the difference between the Classic Transformers and Transformers Classics reprints? do either have the UK issues?
>thread is still up after 4 hoursDamn /co/ really got a lot slower nowadays
>>146127318bump
>>146123104>>146123127>>146123153>>146123179>>146123194the funny thing is the guy that voices Shockwave in One, was one of Lennox (Josh Duhamel's) stunt doubles in DOTM for the Chernobyl scene.
what are the best comics to read if i don't want to see any humans?
I like to think that even when separated the Comstructicons are built tougher than normal bots. Sure they CAN shoot like any other Decepticon, but I believe their true fighting style outside of Devastator is just bulldozing through obstacles like they’re The Juggernaut.
After Cyberverse and Earthspark, my new favourite ship might be Starscream X Sanity
>>146128784>No HumansProbably MTME, that's one that doesn't really have humans.
>>146129074Look at https://www.tumblr.com/search/earthspark%20starscream/recenttumblr is mad because it's Bully Starscream day again!
>>146121103Like all of G1 there are good episodes and shit ones. But the worst episodes are really fucking bad.
>>146121685I actually think Jem and the Holograms would make for a more fun crossover than GI Joe
>>146129362me too!
>>146129344Honestly I feel it's generally on par with season 2, the real issue is the same thing the Batman TAS writers said: "you could write the best episode in the world but if it went to AKOM, that was the kiss of death".
>>146121103>seasons 4 and 5 of G1 (post movie)Post movie is season 3 and season 4 (only three episodes).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3E358n7pcII want a Fall of Cybertron movie so badly.
>>146129608I want one but with good designs instead of that.
Looking back on stuff like the Dictator's Handbook, I'm curious to know if any TF media ever really explored the realities of each faction's psychology.The Decepticons are generally all about might making right, with Megatron leading because he's the best warrior, but at the same time, because he's an autocrat with a less than secure hold on power, the top ranks would be impacted. Starscream is capable, but untrustworthy, hence why Megatron is forced to keep him close and bring him on the mission that leads them to Earth. Soundwave at least is strong and trustworthy, and this helps balance out the Screamer issue in the inner circle. Meanwhile, I figure Shockwave would have to be some combination of trustworthy or loyal since he's trusted enough to operate independently with safeguarding Cybertron. In fact, maybe have this reality of autocracy reflected in Megatron having to fill his top ranks with loyalists regardless of actual competence to justify why the Decepticons have the advantage in overall muscle but are unable to outright win the war.OTOH, the Autobots have healthier dynamics even within their military structure, with Optimus bringing one or two subordinates he can trust to pick up the mantle if something happens to him on the fateful expedition, with the rest being trustworthy but not capable of leading independent commands. Would even justify why powerhouses like Ultra Magnus or Elita-1 stayed on Cybertron since they're both trustworthy, yet competent to command their own personal forces. The reason they can't win the war is that aside from a few top-tier fighters and commanders, their forces are either too few or less skilled in combat.
>>146129293Every day is Bully Starscream Day>>146129362Given some continuities have the Cybertronians create holograms of human drivers/pilots in their vehicle forms, Synergy could turn out to be based on this technology
Having finished Prime, I don't want to watch RiD knowing it doesn't pick up on anything left off in a satisfying way. Plus the fact it's tonally a much more safer kid friendly show. Anyone else do this kind of thing? Just ignore dramatically different sequels? I mean I do it with movies too.
>>146129798Predaking is so hot
>>146129798For the longest time, people said Gundam ZZ wasn't worth watching because it was too silly and incongruous with 0079/Zeta and Char's Counterattack. So I avoided it thinking it was unnecessary, even though CC does pick up on elements from the end of the series.Eventually I did watch and I'm glad I did, it was refreshing compared to how serious Gundam could beI feel the same about RiD
>>146129997Not a fair comparison when ZZ picks up right from Zeta & continues with what it established. We also get a large amount of the important cast returning plus it still has an appropriate tragic "war is hell" Gundam tone despite it's comedy.
Whats the opposite of passion?
>>146129756Yeah i think that was pretty much the reasoning behind why the war lasted so long in many parts of the series like G1, The Cons were all military robots who could fly and were more well armed than the bots, but they are an incredibly disfunctional and pretty much undisciplined army. Even in the movie Soundwave was one of the cons who were willing to throw Megatron out into space (likely because he was loyal but not stupidly so). While the Bots being the consumer/worker bots they were much better at working together most of the time, the origin episode showed how bots like Orion Pax had to actively get upgraded to actually stand a chance against the cons.Personally, i think Animated did the whole concept really well, The cons in that show were straight up larger and physically stornger than most of the bots, and it could take a whole team to take down just one con. But they were either dumbasses, crazy, or disloyal like Arachnia and Starscream.
>>146130076Contempt
>>146116207>In box office?only if you believe it cost 100 gorillion megadollazif it wasn't an election year (which is every other fucking year for the US, so it's a big problem for anybody who wants to advertise) then october would have been the best time for global release - kids are off school for a week most places, you maintain the online hype before anybody can spoil the plot for another country - but in an election year october is filled up with attack ads paid for by short-lived political entities with more free capital than a large enterprise and actual billionaires buying up hours of airtime on every channel etcthey could have gone earlier but september is back to school (and I'm not certain how much earlier it was finished but even aiming for a date is sometimes impossible, so aiming for summer might have been completely impossible, not to mention this year's been abysmal for a lot of movies); august is a dead month (end of summer, kids want to be outside, Rebel Moon 2: Rebel Moonier came out on Nutfux that month and did you even notice)they could have gone later but then they're too late for advertising the toys ahead of christmas for budgeting or up against actual christmas movies which will suck the audience awayanyway, 125 million so far, so 1.6 budget; but it'll be the toyline and home video/streaming that decides whether it gets a sequel, and nobody will know about that until january
>>146130334It needs 2.5 it's budget just to break even. Right now it hasn't even made a profit. At this rate, unless Paramount greenlights it anyway like they have with the GI JOE x Transformers sequel to RoTB, it won't be getting a continuation. You just have to hope Japan & China like it enough to not only increase the box office but also buy/license toys.
>>146130094Contempt would be the opposite of respect, admiration, or love, as contempt is defined as...>"open dislike for someone or something considered unworthy of one's concern or respect"You must have been thinking of "compassion" which is kindness or sympathy towards those less fortunate.>>146130076The opposite of passion would be something like indifference and dullness, since "passion" is defined as strong emotions.
>>146120426The first Bayformers movie feels like it was made in a 90's blockbuster script template with 3 plots converging in the finale(ID4, Godzilla)ROTF is a mess but actually not as bad in plot bloat, surprisingly. DOTM feels like the Shockwave plot was heavily trimmed down and Bay just wants to focus on Sam and Carly(and especially Carly), I know this movie gets a lot of love but I hate it rewatching it because of how obnoxiously loaded the human scenes are.As much hate as TLK gets, I think it's he only Bay movie where the human elements are better balanced with the robot plotTLK is a mess.
>>146130502I used to hate the humans before but I find a lot of scenes especially with Shia hilarious now https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DYPuNFvBy_A&t=1s&pp=ygUZVHJhbnNmb3JtZXJzIG1pbGl0YXJ5IHNhbQ%3D%3D
>>146120937>>146120820Bumblebee was pursuing Sam because of the eBay auction, wasn't he? The Autobots and Decepticons both scoped the internet
>>146130522>ITS A COLLECTERS ITEM
>>146130057RiD does pick up elements from Prime too, though. Not everything, and it's not the focus, but Prime had a fairly tidy ending anyway.Tonally while RiD is more humor based, I really don't think Prime was as dark as people make it out to be.
He circumcised millions...
>>146130572A mutilated man piloting the corpse of a dismembered decepticon dies on screen after being turned into a robo vampire after he was tortured for weeks to months.
>>146130584Too bad I can't go dig up George Washington, graft his foreskin onto my dick with zero chance of rejection, and double in height.
>>146130649You can make anything sound more terrifying than it is with proper verbiage.And I say that as someone who did think that was a good episode.
>>146130584and gave their tax money to Cybertron's greatest ally
>>146130773Yes but it is literally that. There's mutilation & death in the show. Granted just not on Clone Wars levels. Point is RiD is clearly a step down tonally from what was a more mature show kids could still handle.
is Animated the only TF continuity where Cybertron has breathable air?
>>146130835>There's mutilation & death in the showThe "mutilation is bloodless and less gory than some of the 80's comics.There's death in plenty of juvenile, immature shows, it's not the marker of making something deep or mature. Otherwise every cop and lawyer show is prestige tv(they're not).I don't see Prime as all that mature, nor do I think RiD lacking death or having a lighter tone makes it less mature. I think Prime is just really impressive to a generation that wasn't expecting a show like it.
Tidal WaveTidal WaveTidal WaveTidal WaveTidal Wave
>>146130947You're missing the point so hard.
>>146130841Sunbow G1 technically, its not like Spike and Carly needed any suits to walk on that planet's surface. Cybertron/Galaxy Force is another.
>>146131022I'm not, but we're never going to agree. I will never think RiD is the worst shit ever and I'll never think Prime is actually as mature as people describe it as. They're both kids shows to me.
>>146129798>bulkhead and ratchet show up in RiD and have important roles>arcee and wheeljack never appear or mentioned again (except for that blacklist from the council)its not fucking fair.
do you prefer Shockwave being loyal ride-or-die ('84, Animated), a traitorous ambitious snake (Marvel, Energon, Dreamwave) or pragmaticly self-absorbed (Aligned, IDW).
>>146131326I like the ides of him starting out loyal and going to pragmatic logic over time as the war drags on. Pure ride-or-die is Soundwave's shtick, to me.
>>146131326Pragmaticly self-absorbed.Have him work for Megatron because it gets him what he wants (access to resources)
>>146131326I feel like he should follow logic. If Megatron seems like the most rightful candidate to lead the Decepticons he'll follow him, but if he's faltering, he's more than willing to take over. Conversely, if Megatron actually provides a compelling argument that makes logical sense as to why he should lead, he's more than willing to throw away any attempts at mutiny.
Unrelated, but I kinda wish we had more good Primes other than Optimus. Sure you could have him have a corrupted predecessor, but I wish we had an other Cybertronian Vector Prime situation again
>>146125845The small parts are just as visible as the cubes. Its all just a blended mess, they were at least doing neat stuff again with the transformations.
>>146131835I agree, I wish we coul've had a good lineage of Primes bearing the Matrix separate from the 13 before Sentinel fucks it up.
>>146131835>>146131853i've grown to hate the idea that Optimus Prime is the only good Prime.
>>146131870The 13 in One all seemed good, so that's a change to how they're usually portrayed.It's just that there wasn't a chance for there to be a lineage of worthy Primes bearing the Matrix thanks to Sentinel.
>>146131981well yeah thats a rare exception, i think its cause of IDW2005's whole universe being the way it was. the fact even Megatronus and Liege Maximo seemed to me good people betrayed by Sentinel was a genuinely shocking twist.
>>146129997Zetafags are the worst motherfuckers in Gundam. ZZ was made lighter in tome as a palette cleanser after Zeta being edgelord shit the whole way. ZZ is great.
>>146131835Rodimus is a pretty good dude he's just forced to accept a title way too early and is all too stressed out over it.
>>146130652His foreskin would become dust in the wind like the matrix.
>>146130800What was Sentinels plan for when he ran out of Energon?
>>146121480>>146121592>Is there an artbook?They're working on one
Woo, new beast characters.https://news.tfw2005.com/2024/10/28/new-takara-tomy-wildocking-series-in-the-works-525061
>>146131326Shockwave feels like the pragmatic middle ground between Soundwave and Starscream.He'll follow Megatron but will question him, and will overthrow him if push comes to shove.Evil Spock in a way.
>>146131981I think I like these designs better than the comic ones
>>146131326Mostly loyal but always making plans B and C for himself.
Need more Strika
I have a question; just how smart/technical are the constructicons? What have they made?
>>146134374Scrapper and Hook are very smart, Mixmaster is also clever but insane. The rest are fairly dumb.
>>146134529I think Long Haul, Scavenger, and Bonecrusher might be offended by such slander
>>146134726Only Long Haul would have a legitimate complaint about that. Bonecrusher would be mad in general.
So are there any vehicles/concepts they haven't done yet?
>>146135032Have they done Mototaxis yet?
when i was a kid i had an idea for a decepticon centric show. it would star Onslaught as he's pretty much the straightman to the usual mental caliber of the decepitcon army. it would basically be an absurdist sketch comedy of what day to day life was like for decepticons. wish i kept my drawings. i basically made them very Tartakovsky-esque
>>146135410Sounds like a plan.
>>146133870
>>146119196He's the fucking best and I am continuously disappointed that they never wanted to use him again in any show. Not like his VA is hard to get considering he's also Cosmo.
>>146133034New Beast Wars show when
>>146131981It would have complicated things if The Fallen was the traitor. There's probably a draft script version where he does the same deal as before, but what we got works way better for this universe.
>>146135410You were onto something as a kid, I've always liked that Onslaught is actually a competent leader.
I don't see Transformers Armada mentioned much in these threads, mainly prime and animated, is it not considered good? I'm pretty sure it was the one that was on TV when I was a kid.
>>146135032probably a shit ton of aquatic vehicles. I know they wouldn't be practical 99% of the time but they could still be used for triple changers. A battleship city-bot would be nice too
>>146135981i try to mention the UT when possible. For me it has the best depiction of megatron.
>>146136069Is UT the name of that series of shows?I'm a pretty casual fan of TF, I caught the odd Armada episodes when I could and then later I think I watched most of Prime when that was running and enjoyed it a lot; I saw the new movie on a whim and it was so good it made me want more Transformers.
>>146135981Armada only had a handful of good ideas>Primus's robot mode>Thunderblast>Tidal Wave
>>146136230Is one of those the helicopter Decpticon that defected? Because that is literally all I can remember from watching it 20 odd years ago.
>>146136249No Tidal Wave is the giant Decepticon aircraft carrier/boat, Thunderblast is the boat chick who loved Megs
>>146136273Oh wasn't Tidal Wave in the game that came out then? Didn't realize he came from Armada.
>>146136288He's from the Armada show, yes.Thunderblast is from one of its sequels.
Ever consider how fucking scary Insecticons are?>Can eat anything for energy>Can make a swarm of clones>Shrapnel has electric attacks, Bombshell can control minds, and Kickback can just kick you
>>146136699I liked how in the show they were sort of rogue agents that barely followed Megatron's orders
>>146136716Which is why the idea of Airachnid reeling those 3 knuckleheads in fun
so we have the triple S and the seekers as part of High Guard, future Autobots and Decepticons as Cybertronian with Cogs as shown in the Iacon 5000 leaderboard and the G1 autobots as cogless miners, but where there any Decepticons as cogless miners?
>>146135032Has there ever been a Schwerer Gustav transformer?
>>146135032Has there ever been a limousine? Stretch doesn't count he's a Go-Bot.
>>146136699Really underrated G1 subgroup.
>>146136967Probably. The Constructicons likely are still in Iacon and will defect to the new Decepticon capitol, Kaon
>>146136993has there been a proper WW2 transformers plotline yet?I know the last knight had a bit of it, but wasnt that just autobots siding with the allies?I want to see decepticons siding with the nazis and having megatron be a tiger 2 or some crazy shit like starscream being a doodlebug V1 rocket
>>146136993>>146137162I have a better idea>World War 2 era>G1 still happened as it should>Plot is the untold story of one Autobot and one Decepticon on opposite sides of the historical conflict, each came to Earth, lagging behind from everyone else>The Decepticon allied with the Axis Powers, giving them a slight boost in tech to achieve rockets/jets. The whole "Hitler was looking for artifacts" shit was the Decepticon manipulating the Nazis to find The Ark, Megatron, and the Nemesis>Entire story is about an Autobot and a company of WW2 soldiers stopping the Nazis from unknowingly finding this shit and/or unknowingly signaling Shockwave for support>Autobot and Decepticon both die in combat, a mutually assured stalemate. Autobots and Decepticons later wake up like they normally do years later>
>>146136699they should add a female insecticon that turns into a ladybug
>>146137248>decepticons giving technology to the nazis which is why they were more advanced in WW2>nazi occultism was due to the hunt for cybertronian artefacts etcwtf this is awesome?but what vehicles should the bots transform into? the decepticon changing panzer types throughout the story until the end where he's a tiger 2 is a given, but the autobot?
>>146137317I want to say the Decepticon would be a mercedes benz so he can accompany high ranking SS officers and speak in private with Hitler's inner circle. The Autobot could be a cargo truck to ferry troops across the field
>>146136109yeah its short for Unicron Trilogy since the big dude is a central part of the plot in each. I really recommend watching them if you're getting back into TF; these series were pretty much the gateway for zoomer TF fans. 1080p upscaled version of each series are up on youtube for free by a channel called magnus after dark.
Reminder that Barrage's first animated appearance was in a Family Guy cutaway gag
>>146137661They must either have some die hard TF fans in the animation department or they just got whatever decepticons looked cool. I still think it's the former since they bothered to include both Rumble, Frenzy and even have Astrotrain in it.
>>146137695They've made about a dozen Transformers references so maybe.
>>146137722Jeez, even the original cartoon didnt put as much detail into the constructicons as this.
>>146137758They don't need to animate them doing a bunch of things on a children's cartoon budget.
>>146137661https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpXsbuzTEY0What the fuck.
First off, reminding everyone that this scene from Fall of Cybertron is badasshttps://youtu.be/3c7I_RS-TAsSecondly......Bit strange that after so many movies we've never seen live action Metroplex or Omega Supreme. But that's probably a good thing
>>146137974>Metroplex willingly gives his life to power the Ark>Trypticon is forcefully converted into the Nemesis permanentlyAbsolute cinema
>>146130800why did quintus make these guyswas he stupid
>>146139356I fully believe Quintus was the Wheeljack of the Primes, the kind of Bot who asks if he could instead of if he should.>The Quintessons are the Thirteen's version of the Dinobots except they fully turned against them
>>146136699I still can't believe Kickback got the best theme song in Transformers Devastation, that shit slaps.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k44o6z9fSD0
>>146139390Is there any evidence that not all the primes died?
Anyone else think Warpath is underrated?>Seems to always be a cybertron made Autobot from day 1>Has a tank alternate mode for some reason>When he isn't one in a continuity he converts himself into one I sometimes wish he'd be more of a cast member again, maybe a stand in for the big and aggressive member. Plus i'm pretty sure they can handwave him having robot tourettes, so he's have brownie points too.Also i really wish they'd touch on his alt mode, i feel like in a lot of media Autobots with military themed alt modes are upgrades or Con turncoats. He could be like one of the few military cybertronians who actually decided to join the bots.
>>146139788There's also bots like Hound, but he's a jeep, so i guess it doesn't count?
>>146139788>Anyone else think Warpath is underrated?No?Pretty much everyone loves warpath
>>146139788I liked him in the Cybertron games
>>146137758>>146137836that is true they're all just standing there.
>>146139788I hear Officer Flareup is his biggest fan if you catch my drift... Bang, Zoom, Kerpowie indeed!
>>146137722Who's that piece of shit on the far right?
>>146137722>>146137758>even the original cartoon didnt put as much detail into the constructicons as this.>>146137938I'm pretty sure 1 episode of Family Guy has more budget than an entire Season of G1 Transformers.
>>146141137Judging by the rivets everywhereprobably a unique joke character for the skit
>>146141137>>146141205Negatron, a canoe transformer who points out the follies of Megatron's scheme.
>>146136230the first 2 were from Cybertron.
>>146141568Were they connected?
>>146136699I'm pretty sure the first Insecticon episode showed off how scary they are before becoming easy fodder
>>146139788only now I found out that he is classified as a mini-bot like bee and cliff wtf
>>146141806its the Unicron Trilogy, it's complicated but its supposed to be the same continuity.
>>146139570As always, depends on the continuityTFO makes it pretty clear they all died, unless One 2 wants to pull something out of its butt
>>146142081His toy small
>>146142081I think it's because his OG toy was actually really small alongside Cosmos and the rest
>>146142081its funny seeing minibots be bigger like most modern Bumblebee's, Prime Cliffjumper, Universe 08 Powerglide, Energon Beachcomber, and EarthSpark Cosmos for starters as well.
>>146142849To me a minicon is just a jab term at smaller bots and not a genetic variant like beast modes or triple changers
>>146142950my headcanon is that Micronus Prime is the patron saint of minibots while Onyx is for beast transformers and Nexus is for combiners
>>146143301the hip part makes it look like she is wearing a shit filled diaper
>>146143531That is like the opposite of a headcanon. It is one created with the intent of being that.
>>146143531That’s not even headcanon that’s straight up the canon
>>146143531given now Alpha Trion has a beastmode, it does make Onyx's beast mode origin a bit shakier.
>>146137162>>146137248>has there been a proper WW2 transformers plotline yet?>I want to see decepticons siding with the nazis and having megatron be a tiger 2 or some crazy shit like starscream being a doodlebug V1 rocketDreamWave had a GI Joe vs Transformers miniseries that did this.
>>146144031do we know the order of birth of each prime? All I know is that Prima is transformer Adam
>>146144095It's Prima then Vector Prime then Alpha Trion then Solus and then I forget
>>146144031I like to think Onyx gave Alpha the ability to become a beast as a gift because he was nice like that :)
>>146113927After RotB? Nuh, they absolutely don't know what they are doing.
>>146136699aren't there like 50 different ones just in G1 now
This thread needs more Swindle.
>>146145130Rare instance of bot calling bot a "Transformer"
do you prefer galvatron being a complete rebuild of mega ('84, AoE), a mere powerup (UT), or a separate individual (IDW).
>>146145591Generally I prefer rebuild. If they continue the One continuity and have Galvatron, I want him to be separate.
>>146145591Rebuild makes the most sense but my favorite look was a recolor. And then there are times a Megatron gets rebuilt but doesn't get called Galvatron throwing a wrench into things.
>>146144031>>146144268Alpha Trion can be the second beast mode. It becomes more common depending on what region/era of cybertron bots were built. Also Alpha Trion's giimmick is being the wise sage and guardian of Vector Sigma
>>146145591 A rebuild that becomes a separate individual that in certain circumstances can become a power-up.
>>146115796IE you're autistic.
>>146131184>arcee and wheeljack never appear or mentioned againin the case of Arcee, fucking why? She's one of the most popular transformers in Prime.
>>146116299Then have a series about them. Maybe have Snake Eyes go solo and take the fight to them since he's the coolest Joe.
>>146121848They're in the same universe. Girl in pic related's the daughter of two of the Joes.
>>146145156I'd watch a whole series based on the adventures of Swindle and the Combaticons travelling through space
>>146129798I had issues with both but have seen a fair bit of both. The connection of RiD to Prime is mostly an afterthought. But hey, if you're into Megatronus at least one of these is worth checking out...
are Scourge and Cyclonus their own selves or just rebuilt Thundercracker and Skywarp?
>>146146279>They're in the same universe.A ton of shows are in that universe.Where's the Jem and the Holograms crossover?
>>146146317in Sunbow the latter but most people i think have less of a issue with them being the former due to the whole arguments over who Cyclonus once was.
>>146146221She was in the comic.
>>146146317Well they have different body layout, personality, name motifs and abilities while there is an actual through line from Megatron to Galvatron, so corpses being used for parts doesn't matter much. Plus as >>146146383points out, Bombshell was actually the one in the foreground which would suggest Thundercracker and Bombshell. And that the earlier scripts had those two as ancient Decepticons reborn.
How do Transformers like Shockwave consume Energon?
>>146146317You're opening a whole can of worms there bro. The community has been debating this for decades.
>>146145145>takes him to the beachGay
>>146146480A cable
>>146146480I like to think he drinks through his eyehole.
>>146145130I like this, rare moment when other Autobots and Decepticons get into a personal confrontation other than Megatron and Optimus.
>>146145130Cartoon weren't so kind to pacifist...
>>146145094It's always weird to me when Decepticons make deals with humans, at least when they're trying to present it like they are both discussing like they're on the same level. Autobots may believe in coexistence with humans, but Decepticons notably don't, and should be squashing them like bugs.
>>146146608wtf I thought that was Hugh Neutron when I saw the thumbnail
>>146146608disposable assetshumans are corrupt greedy creatures, decepticons can play into that quite well
>>146146581Because he stole the role. In the bios Groove is the one that hates violence. First Aid is just an overly zealous medic that doesn't let you be at 99%.
>>146146608Wonder how they handle it in the GI Joe crossover film, hard to imagine what would possibly give Cobra equal footing with the Decepticons.
I just wish GI Joe stopped latching on the TF brand like some sort of malformed conjoined twin
>>146146784Hasbro would rather take down one of their remaining classic IPs down with them to try and hastily buoy a dead one instead of giving TF the care it desperately needs outside of One and merch.
>>146146621dammit, now i wish they made Fairmaestro Hugh Neutron lmao, that would've been funny as fuck.
>>146146755They don't. Cobra ends up having to join the good guys since the Decepticon plans will kill them as well, but then split to commit more terrorism before the dust settles to evade capture.
>>146145130>what if Hound was Megatron, and also terrible
>>146145203imo the official name of their race should be "cybertronian" while "transformer" is the nickname they got from humans
They should use combaticons if they make that GI Joe movie, they are perfect for the military setting
>>146146865Probably in the comics, but these films rarely take those into account.
I was watching the scene were Orion makes a speech for the miners and god there's so many reused models there, I think I count 3 Prowls, 2 Sideswipes(one in front of Orion and the other at his back lol) and 2 Houndshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrGXzM930E
>>146147242>Swindle joins Destro and shills MARS weapons.
>>146147280Not exactly out of the norm
>>146147324Now that's a movie I would like to see
>>146147324>>146147951The Combaticons are on Earth now in the Skybound Books so the Skybound Team have the ability to do something really funny and could actually make this happen.
>>146147280I like that they tried to give the background seekers little differences from each other instead of only being basic recolors
>>146148023i think only 1.5 of them are
>>146148090It's a good detail but I'm admittedly a bit mixed on Thundercracker and Skywarp having visors and faceplates this time around, those two just kinda look right when they're identical to Starscream
>>146148191I like it because I love faceplates and visors, makes them look cool
>>146148131Based on the solicits for the rest of the Arc 3, all of Bruticus is now on Earth and it's going to be a major plot point with him fighting Devastator for leadership. Volume 3 is even called "Combiner Chaos".
>>146146313They're like villainous A-team lol.
>>146148090I think what makes it good is that because there are so many minor characters already, you dont need to really make generic filler characterspretty sure all those seekers in that image are named, for example the purple one is definitely slipstream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUcMue0nteQ
>>146148131>>146148280Vortex, Blast Off and Swindle are/were on Cybertron when the space bridge closed, Onslaught and Brawl are on Earth and Brawl is in two halves; it's not clear what happens to Onslaught (who is part of the fighting but then just disappears) or to Brawl (who is not part of the fighting and hasn't moved or said anything since he was ripped in half), but then it's also unclear what happened to Cliffjumper when the space bridge shut off (or why it shut off after Prime shot the energon and not when Elita destroyed the portal) or what happened to Devastator/the Constructicons after they fell onto the energon harvester.I don't know if that means the space bridge is going to reopen or Blast Off is going to fly the other two to Earth or what, but it ain't gonna work otherwise.
>>146144041I have that book. It sucks. The story telling is weak and the art is incomprehensible. Only seek it out if you want to gawk at it.>>146145094>>146145113It really stinks that an episode that focused on giving the Combaticons some personality is also one of the worst of series.
>>146149375Well at least Starscream's Brigade and The Revenge of Bruticus were good. I can't believe episode like B.O.T. was the last episode before the movie, it's hilarious.
>>146149576I find it strange the protectobots were the only S2 combiner without an origin episode. wouldve gladly exhanged one of the weaker episodes with one for them being built to control the damage the combaticons leave behind.
1. give me a proper figure of transformers one airachnid2. if they did, her "feet" are effectively blades so it'd need to use the spider limbs to stand (which is fine)great design for the character, even if the only real comparison is from prime
>>146149878I think the Prime design is better, and you can still get a decent 3rd party figure of that
>>146149878I adore both but One's really grown on me. The xenomorph-style head really works to make her looks a little more off putting. Not to mention thighs for days and perfect for rad action scenes. Perfect murder mommy.>her groan when she's forced to broadcast her memoriesDiamonds
>>146113927It's going to kill Transformers even more than the Last Knight did. Why? Because NO ONE outside of USA cares about the fucking GI Joes
God I hope Lugnut is in Transformers Two
Exactly how much are Cybertronian brains "Cyber"? Do they have targeting systems? Can they hack software by mental link?
>>146149775It does suck, but on the other hand I kind of like that they just show up like out of nowhere as Defensor to BTFO Bruticus. They blast him to scrap so only I think Swindle survives and just walk off saying "lol moar liek Faggicus am I right? Someone clean up this trash."Too bad post-movie episodes with the Protectobots had First Aid be a pacifist bitch.
>>146123893>>146124395>>146124423Does she count as a transformer?
>>146149991Yes, but it isn't a consistent thing. Sometimes things like that are superpowers.
Which Con that isn't a total afthole? Soundwave is definitely not a jerk, but what about others?
>>146150019Thundercracker sometimes.
>>146150019Tidal Wave is sometimes too retarded to be one.
>>146150074Isn't Tidal Wave retardedly evil as he is loyal? He's got nipple cannons
>>146149878
>>146150186I think this film deserves an animation award
>>146150019Onslaught is a posh gentlemanDemolishor is dumb but can be friendlyLugnutz (aka Roadstorm) is a pot smoking hippie.Sixshot (Energon) seems like a chill dude as long as you dont betray him.
>>146150006Maybe if she had a transformation cog.
>>146150168Sometimes Tidal Wave is like, smart enough to say words other than his name.
>>146148090Something about Thundercracker's alt resembles Laserbeak and Buzzsaw and I'm not sure how I feel about it.
>>146148090I really wish I was obsessed enough with Transformers to know which is which exactly.
>>146150186She’s so cool. I want her to ram her tongue down my throat
>>146150894Thundercracker, Skywarp, Dirge, Ramjet, Thrustuhhh... and I'm guessing Slipstream, Acid Rain and uh... Sriracha Sauce?
>>146150943>Sriracha SauceRedwing actually.
>>146148191I like them better like that, makes it easier to tell them apart.
>>146150984Thank Primus, I was afraid it was Sunstorm. I've never seen this red bitch before in my life. Movie OC or super obscure BotCon Shattered Glass exclusive?
>>146151049>Red Wing owes his entire existence to a series of miscommunications between Hasbro, TakaraTomy, e-HOBBY, and Fun Publications, coupled with a slight coloring error.The latter.
>>146151074Also the Japanese dub of Cyberverse calls Thrust Red Wing because no cinehead.
>>146151074Also, One Redwing shares the same body as Slipstream, so this one may be a girl.
>>146139788warpath was always one of my favorites. rarely do you see a mech with a tank turret for a chest.
>>146139788he's pretty universally liked. the fault is just in hasbro for never fucking using him.
>>146147280Makes sense, a lot of Transformers are just recolors of another, at least toy wise. Then they get their own designs in other media sometimes.
>>146148090Is that second last one a new original seeker?
>>146139788More like underused
Do you prefer Rak and Ruin bring conjoined at "birth" or later on?Sometimes i like the idea of them being a factory defect, but i also like the idea of them being conjoined as a means of survival.
>>146151794I wish they wouldn't differentiate which one was Rack and which one was Ruin again, maybe they could have a Rosencrantz and Gilderstern thing going on.
>>146148090Does Skywarp has a mouthpiece?
Does anyone have the lineart character model for Armada Starscream's vehicle mode?
>>146151773IIRC there's a seeker with gold and aqua colors in the background of an early issue of RiD protesting HorriBull's death.
>>146151843Correction, he's protesting after Megatron returns in issue 12.
>>146151794Conjoined at "birth" for no particular reason.
I love how the Fandom page for Seekers just creates a bunch of fan-names so that every Seeker in the 'lineup of color schemes' has a name, and does nothing to make it clear these aren't official.
>>146151801Yes. He even has one singular line in the movie, the director voiced him.
>>146152144GrossHow can you have a skywarp without the smarmy face
>>146135032uhh let me see...>Anything french >Anything chinese (in official media) but third party exists of em'>Russian aircraftsand more
>>146135032They should do more 1980s vehicles and soviet vehicles
>>146152385>Anything frenchNot even Dassault?
>>146152880And that's how Ayrton Senna died
>>146152880This shit is why he gets turned into a tree. It's to counter a naively destructive greed only seen in fables of old, a fitting consequence for his reckless behavior.
>>146150019>Soundwave is definitely not a jerkUhh, which one, cuz orginal in the g1 cartoon is a pretty cold hearted.
>>146111146Just watching EarthsparkIt has the hate plague started by a red hatWhat did they mean by this?
>>146153550it was started by a illegal alien playing the system.
>>146153518Cold hearted =/= jerk. Compared to regular asshole like Screamer, Blitzwing, Skywarp, and MegsOh and Astrotrain too.
>>146152498>Trabant/Lada/Wartburg Transformers
>>146153597That’s super cute! Personality kinda conflicting with her alt mode, but that’s probably the point.
>>146153033Don't forget -- Rumble is also a Brony.(And it's actually super cute.)
Funny mental image that just entered my mind:>Starscream wearing a Burger King crown getting kicked out of an airport
>>146154077I can never remember who is Thundercracker and who is Skywarp. Seekers are a clone mess. One of them should have a mouth plate, and the other should have a visor
>>146154109Are you serious?That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard
>>146154109Just remember this image.
>>146153685Unfortunately Megatron had to shelve the Trabbicons after their total loss to and subsequent consumption by a herd of goats.
>>146154142this is extra funny when you remember that Skywarp is the black seeker
>>146154096Where does he compress all that mass?
>>146154255>that’s the joke
which series have an episode where the transformers become human for a brief period other than animated and that one G1 episode from season 3?
>>146154052>"No airplane tickets, no entry!>"I am an airplane!"
>>146154109this is not even a rumble/frenzy scenario where they change names depending on the continuity dumbass
>>146151794This reminds me of an idea I had for a Decepticon counterpart I called Jac 'n' Drill; they're girls and transform into a pair of mining machines that switch pack only when they are together.
>>146117558It's apparently because Hasbro wanted to cuck Go-Bots out of anything they could use.
>>146154789>Jac'n'Drill went up the hill to fetch a pail of energon
>>146154390Master force whole series is based on that
>>146120802So Armada Cyclonus?
>>146154005He reads funny comic books
>>146120703Isn’t that literally just Vortex with more kibble?
>>146154052lolHe'd look good in a burger king crown.
>>146139788Warpath's problem is that red is a really popular autobot color and Optimus already has a lot of it.And then Ironhide is the more popular big tough red guy for the team.
>>146155086Ironhide barely gets used anymore almost always background fodder at best.
>>146146317Personally I think it's easier to just treat Skywarp and Scourge as their own bots.Who Unicron got the raw material for doesn't matter.
>>146155071Now that's a good comedy
>>146152749I think they did use only one time the rafale but it was for a obscure con i think, so kinda not really
he has nice hips
So, kinda curious, has there been any story that tried to explain where the fuck all the Season 2 guys came from?Like, some of them just sorta show up there like Blaster, Blitzwing and etch.
>>146154664I'm imagining him saying this with his head stuck in the airport doorway, blocking the entrance for everyone else.
>>146155315nope. Marvel G1 at least had to explain where they came from which admittedly was the most frustrating thing for Bob Budiansky writing the comic.
>>146152880GTA Cybertron
If someone makes a new thread, can you use the Zombie Optimus prime as the OP image to celebrate halloween?
