Joker beat Giorno.Next Episode is Bowser vs Eggman
OH NO! HE'S NOT GONNA GO 3 - 0
>>146124256With the shit they pulled this episode I can’t even argue, Godzillafag.>DB will give a combatant weaknesses and limitations based on AU versions of them if it gives them the preferred outcome
>>146124252I hope in the battle, Eggman just pulls out a gun like Adventure 2 and the Sonic IDW comics for the sheer hilarity.
Since Godzilla is contractually obligated to have a clause that makes me incapable of losing any battle, does this mean his matchup would be a Dwayne Johnson character?
>>146124273>Death Battle comes back>It's more retarded than everPoetry.
>Xander Mobus, who voices Ren/Joker in the games/anime, voiced Jack Frost in Joker vs GironoThat's hilarious!
>>146124273All the characters appearing in Fortnite are now bullet tier in their original continuities
https://youtu.be/SKaWjRITxRw
>>146124420So this is how Goku/Vegeta surpasses Superman/Vegeta...
>>146124273Nigga, GER NEEDED EOH to get any actual high tier scaling because otherwise it has NOTHING that could’ve been used as a counter against Joker. Without EOH you’re stuck with planet level at best RTZ, I don’t think that you understand that it was given to Giorno because he loses harder without it.
>>146124273Vergil has even less of a chance against Sephiroth then
Happy Spooktober, everyone. Here's today's costume>>146123444>>146121000As always, the rules are simple, respond directly to the anchor post (i.e., this) with a costume request, and if you get trips/quads, you'll be featured for the next day. If multiple people land trips, that's fine, and if there's no trips/quads for the day, dubs can also get it. The selections only run till midnight (EST) of that day, so if you go over that, it's doneso. You'll need to reply to the next day's post to roll again. Also, do not make multiple requests in a single post. They must be separate posts for equal chances of rolls.Also, if you want to see the previous costumes and pieces by Art Anon, here's the mega https://mega.nz/folder/EcxVUI4a#60R6sJ_zsyuIwK_OHLNz0A
>>146124273>Written by ArakiSo why is it not allowed to be used? This isn’t a Dragonball GT situation.
>>146124377>>Death Battle comes back>>It's more retarded than everNo. It's as retarded as it's always been. You've just forgotten how retarded they are.
>>146124482Nikocado Avacado!
>>146124451Joker isn't planet level, it is just how the magic interacts with one another. Realistically both are just street tier, but Giorno and the autonomous nature of GER just make him remarkably hard to put down. Joker has access to a lot of the same things but his tool kit is a lot more limited by the nature of video games.
>>146124750Look man unless you can give a counter argument to Joker being able to scale to the dude who fused two realms together then this isn’t going to go anywhere. As it stands GER needed EOH to compete with the high level stuff Joker can get normally (no he didn’t get the Omnipotent Orb they just used it to explain the capabilities of Almighty attacks), even if it came at the “““““cost””””” of him being able to lose to high tier reality warping, but WITHOUT EOH then what the fuck does GER have other than scaling to Diavolo’s planetary time erasure.
>>146124273The alternative is just them saying "yeah Almighty could probably get through this cause it beats omnipotent orb" anyway without even citing EOH, which would've gone over even worse. It's effectively just an official in-universe power comparison, as opposed to say, EOH giving Jotaro new shit entirely
>>146124252tony stark is just marvel bruce wayneWin condition for iron man is having access to cryptonite
>>146124799Joker can't scale to it because Joker never fuses the realms. He just defeats a dude that did. And just because that guy could merge the realms doesn't mean he would be able to cause a similar scale of damage with his attacks nor focus it down to a point. It doesn't say anything about his durability either.
Eggman wins btw
>>146124865How does Eggman respond to his army being sealed within paintings?
>>146124878He probably seethes pretty hard
>>146124878Eggman was trapped inside a photo once
>>146124889Although, I should add a caveat in that other Sonic characters managed to help him out. So I guess Sonic characters can free each other from seals, including his army.
>>146124273>Alt universes in the same multiverse now countThat's dumb and everyone knows its dumb. Just look at the wide spread of just the various Hyperions from Marvel to see why its stupid. >>146117143If this was a normal 1 v 1 fight it wouldn't matter but this is a army battle where they get all their gear and plot devices so it does matter. Bowser looks across the battlefield and sees 1 Eggman he needs to kill to win. Eggman looks across the field and sees pic related but oops all Bowsers and some of them are nearly as powerful as the real one. Eggman either needs to get lucky and kill the right one, kill all of them, or invent a device that'll let him pick out the right Bowser, which while possible, would distract him and take him out of the battle at hand.>>146124799I don't get this argument in the slightest.You don't need a fireball the size of a universe to drain Joker's hp. You need one his size. Do you think if Joker stepped on Dr. Doom's time platform that he wouldn't travel through time? How would stretching out the time platform to the size of a planet or a star or a universe change anything? I think you got scaling on the brain.
>>146124273Jotaro vs Kenshiro btw>>146124675It wasn't written by Araki, that's a straight up lie. All he did is supervise it. By this logic any official JoJo spinoff material is canon.
I honestly don’t see any connections for Jotaro vs Kenshiro besides “80’s manga protags who punch really fast”. Always seemed like a REALLY threadbare obvious stomp MU.Gojo vs Jotaro would be a lot more interesting.>connection is literally “the strongest HIM in history vs the strongest HIM of today”>both die to a villain with connections to a villain they previously faced>without wank, both are close stat-wise>depending how you see it, Timestop might be able to get past limitless, because Gojo’s cursed energy can’t flow in stopped time
>>146124904LMFAO!I remember Lousy being a pretty bad researcher but damn!
>>146124878You know Sage has BFR right? She can teleport everyone to cyber space if she wants.
>>146124937Oh and I forgot to mention that she has sealing powers of her own too since she imprisoned all of Sonic's friends inside a different dimension, so this argument can go both ways.
>>146124937She sealed people in cyberspace by using the architecture of the Starfall Islands.
>"AAAAIIIIIIIEEEEE IS THAT JACK FROST? REQUIEM SAVE MEEEEEE"
>>146124955This is an army vs army fight where everyone is given everything, do you not realize the absurdity of going "UMM AKSHALLY" when that can very well also apply to a lot of Bowser's shit?
>Stand Arrow lend me your power, this is BASE JACK FROST I’m up against…
most likely scenario is all things are considered even but eggman needs his mechs to achieve his peak physically and thats how bowser wins imo
God personafaggotry is legitimately the worst.
So is this the worst Death Battle result since Gaara/Toph?
>>146125108Are people as mad as last fight? I feel like there should be more people calling them out on using something so blatantly non-canon
How does Bowser beat the Time Eater?
>>146125108kek noJojofags got fraudchecked and Swank got btfoIt's the best result we could get.
Okay, what’s the worst-case scenario ending you can think of for Bowser v Eggman?>Archie shit gives Eggman the win>Metal Sonic or Wily just shows up and steals the win>somehow pic related
>>146125114what was the last fight again?
>>146125114I don't think many people are seething cause even fans know both series are huge toss-ups that rely so much on personal interpretation. It's abstract as fuck.
>>146125127Bardock vs Nolan
>>146125119>It's the best result we could get.Persona winning is never a good result though.
>>146125136cope and dilate
>>146125127Nolan somehow beating Super Saiyan Bardock.
>>146125126Using comic shit at all when it's literally a game vs. game fight .
>Personafags getting uppity after being handed a non-canon boneWhat matchup should we get to keep them in line?
>>146125143Thats what personafags do though.Thats just fact anon.
>>146124992How exactly do you have a fucking alien civilization as part of an equipment loadout?
>>146125156brainlet-tier question
>>146125148I dunno how you really beat>NLF for me but not for theeYou could pretty much argue for SMT protags beating anyone using this episode's logic.
>>146125179NLF?
>>146125148kek stay seething FAGGOT2-0
>>146125189No limits fallacy. The idea that a character doesn't have limits because you've never seen them before. GER doesn't get NLF because of some PS3 game everyone forgot about.Almighty attacks get NLF because most Persona fans never played P2 I guess.
>Jojokeks already malding and coping
>>146124904>oversaw>meaning he looked over everything>meaning he approved So in other words, it’s fair to use since it’s just an AU of the main timeline.
>>146125260>alreadyis there supposed to be a delay or something
>>146125250Oh that.Yeah Personafags always do that. I think that cancerous troglodyte bitch from 4 is the worst case of it I see ususally from them.
>>146124750RTZ isn't planet level either. It negated an ability with planet level range while right in front of it. Ability AP is not real.
>>146125126Eggy wouldn't get Archie shit, but he'd probably get IDW shit with the Metal Virus.
>>146124849GER never rewround the planet. He rewround a guy who can effect the planet. But you think he's planet level, right?
>>146125108I don't think it had enough invested fanboys to cause real seethe, but Apocalypse vs. Black Adam is really retarded the more I looked into it.
>>146125266The same way Toriyama oversaw Xenoverse and Sega oversaw IDW Sonic?
>>146125318That was another one with Lousy. Lousy might be the worst researcher they have.
>>146125323Toriyama didn’t oversee shit about Xenoverse but he wrote plot outlines for DBO that Xenoverse also uses.
>>146125318Kek, by that episode's logic Apocalypse is >>>> Phoenix because Adam is >>>>>>> Raven.
>>146125331https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmpyu8zhBVU
Joker had the one advantage Giorno didn't. Giorno had acquaintances and fellow gang members, while Joker had FRIENDShttps://youtu.be/M9aF9_mZDyY?si=89YqvwvbemmjLuJJ
>>146125340Yeah, it was in direct vicinity with a fight that contradicted it pretty directly. Also there's a comic where Captain Marvel and Black Adam 2 vs. 1 Superboy Prime.I'm pretty sure Apocalypse doesn't have anything remotely close to 1/2 of Superboy Prime.
Any autistic swordsman that Iori Miyamoto can fight? Protagonist of the Fate/Samurai Remnant game. Really likes strong people and he wants to fight a load of the cast in F/GO like he's Goku.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QScRqFYhdA
>>146125396Kenpachi from Bleach?
>>146125396Shez fire emblem, both use two swords
>>146125407Ooh, Kenpachi is actually a good one.
>>146124313He can lose, they just can't imply he's permanently dead. In fact it happened to him three times in a row in Japan, with Shin Godzilla, Singular Point and Minus One.
>>146125396>>146125407If we use the Servant of Iori, we may have something here with Kenpachi. It'd probably get past the invisible ghost rule Shinigami have.
>>146124420Those are omniversal bullets. Characters appearing in Fortnite are the strongest in fiction.
Reminder that Jojo is now consistently lightspeed and have universal top tiers. Swan finessed us all. Giorno was the sacrifice to make sure his horse never loses again.
>>146125514Fortnite is canon to Marvel 616 so reality warping Marvel heralds are vulnerable to mindhax and debuffs apparently
>>146124482Kevin R. Nash>>146124905OldGODS matchup that filters zoomzooms like you>>146125396Not him but Doc Samson from Marvel vs Samson from here would be an fun matchup
>>146125578>eggman also gets goombasThose traitors....
>>146125578>Stuff like IDW and various shorts also countOh no no bowserbros...we're gonna get btfo by the metal virus....
>>146124905If the amount of connections a matchup has are what makes it good, then your top 10 should probably include the most popular MUs on r/deathbattle. Kenshiro vs Jotaro at least had the fact that SP allowed Jotaro to fight without getting into close contact with Ken. Sure, it's still a clear win for Ken, but SP at least makes it more viable than other matchups. Also, what the fuck is a "HIM"?>>146124482Vampire Hunter D.>>146125108Didn't you say that last episode?
>>146125359Well that explains why they gave 18 energy absorption even though she can’t do that.
>>146125550That's omniversal mindhax.
>>146125578I guess it comes down to Eggman's Cum Virus, huh? Can Kamek cleanse it?
>>146125578I can't wait to see them try and unironically say that Eggman is MFTL or something retarded.
>>146125675I mean he does run faster than Sonic
>>146125675Nigga his arch nemesis is Sonic.
>>146125682That was 1 (one) time in Sonic 2 and Sonic wasn't even at full speed.>>146125685Sonic ain't FTL or anywhere close to it.
>>146125578>never betrayed Eggman whatsoever in Forces yup Infinitebros we got this
funny that I think Kira would beat Adachi with Bites the Dust, if he was just being the last bit stealthy about it.
>>146125704So Metal gets swapped with Infinite?
>>146125691>Sonic ain't FTL or anywhere close to it.Based retard
>>146125627Maybe. At the very least Thwomps, Boos, Lava Bubbles, and Bob-ombs and other non-organics should be immune.
>>146124962busting out GER so soon made as little sense as Alucard going to Level 0 to deal with one dude
>>146125716This isn't true or else every single game wouldn't make any sense because Sonic should have scoured the entire planet in seconds.
>>146125732That applies to every speedster ever
>>146125713If eggboy gets everything he personally invented then Metal is involved in the fight too. I suspect Metal, Infinite, and Sage will be the heavy hitters of the Eggman empire.
>>146125363
>>146125736Sonic's entire tagline is being the speed of sound. He isn't FTL, even in super form it takes him time to get into orbit.
>>146125732First vs battle debate?
>>146125748By that logic, Galactus is only star level because he's a sentient star
>Metal Sonic kills everyone just like bef-AAAAIIIEEEEE!!! WALUIGI SAMA!! DON'T USE YOUR OP AS FUCK TKD SKILLS AGAINST MY EVER SO WEAK ASS OVERLORD FORM!! NOOOOO
>>146125770>B-butNo retard, not the same. Galactus has actual feats, SHITnic has nothing to suggest he's that fast. Even in cutscenes he's never moved anywhere near light speed.
>>146125600No because I didnt see last episode, didn't even know what it was.
>>146124905>Gojo vs JojoShit matchup.
>>146125755And its never been refuted.
>>146125755Stats for first? Havent heard too much about him but battle debate is tough to beat
>>146124905Jotaro can't get past Limitless lmao
>>146125781>Even in cutscenes he's never moved anywhere near light speed.But it did happen before in cutscenes, you would know this if you knew anything about what you're talking about.
>>146125108Giorno doesn't actually win so no
>>146125807Nigga I've played nearly every Sonic game, unlike Soniggers. He's never moved that fast, ever.
>>146125813Did you not watch any of the cutscenes in Colors DS?
>>146125823You think because he was in space he had to be moving FTL? Lmao, the SMARTEST Sonigger.
>>146125834Omega literally calculated his speed while he was running anon. I know reading text might be too hard for an illiterate person like you, but try to keep up.
>>146125578wait so is Eggman Nega apart of Eggman's army? he fucking hates Eggman but he still keeps teaming up with him
>>146125848Omega doesn't appear in Colors, retardo.
>>146125856That's why I said Colors DS, you're only proving me right about your lack of reading comprehension.
>>146125773Greatest fighten style of all time 100%
>>146125866>noncanon in your pathWoah, what a zinger
>>146125866>at this rateThat means he was approaching light speed at best. Anyway he has multiple below lightspeed antifeats.
>>146125879actually this version is more canon then the Wii version since it has the Mother Whisp which isn't a thing in Color's Wii
>>146125870>Greatest fighten style ever Jobs to Chad Cobra Kai style Tang Soo Do
>>146125879Everything is canon in Sonic per wog.>>146125884>actually disagreeing with what the game says in favor of your own headcanonConcession accepted. None of this really matters in the long run when Eggman and Bowser's settings are both inconsistent and DB will take high ends regardless.
>>146125578Eggman has>Sage>Time Eater>InfiniteBowser gets>Kamek>King Boo>Koopa KidsAm I forgetting anyone?
>>146125716>character called Sonic>runs at speed of lightbravo Sega
>>146125898All of his friends appear in colors DS. Makes me wonder if Bowser is allowed Paper Mario/Mario and Luigi RPG stuff if Eggman gets handheld spinoffs too.
>>146125781Galactus has even more antifeats on account of jobbing so often
>>146125930>Approaching>Meaning nearing>Meaning not currently at>>>>disagreeing with what the game saysSonigger IQ on display.
>the thing that pushes Giorno to use GER was Jack FrostHE HO
>>146125933Bowser gets his Impostors who are at least similar to him AP wise.
>>146125879It's also canon that Mario games are stage plays and thus all of Mario's feats are questionable
>>146125958It's also canon that I fucked your mom a couple decades ago and thus it's questionable who your real daddy is.
>>146125938They said he's getting Paper Mario stuff so we're getting Dreamy Bowser with the star rod. Good look beating that with your limited range Infinite you cunt.
>>146124252>In the Super Mario Kun manga, Bowser defeats the mangaka and becomes the author himself, being able to rewrote the plotdoes this counter the Genesis Wave?
>>146125958Who's to say those stage plays don't actually have them fighting life and death? Art is pain.
>>146125951>admits he takes his own headcanon interpretation over the canon cutsceneWhat part of exceeding light speed light don't you get? The word 'exceed' isn't hard to understand sped
>>146125979They said no kun.
>>146125578>All spin offsDoes this mean Bowser and Dry Bowser are considered two different people?
>>146125987Sonic never exceeded the speed of light... that's why it says "at this rate". That's relativistic.
>>146125987What part of "approaching" do you not understand? Do I need to link the dictionary to you?Sonic never exceeded light speed.
>>146125992>Eggman gets IDW>Bowser can't get KunThese faggots need to stop picking and choosing what is and isn't canon.
>>146125933Kammy Koopa means Bowser gets Kamek X2.
>>146125995They're both two different people AND Bowser can become him.
>>146126000He doesn't get Archie either.
>STILL no Baki matches
>>146125998And Sonic continues running in the cutscene, that only holds true if you assume he just stops.>>146125999>Impossible... At this rate, light speed will be exceeded.You realize these words are supposed to make sense in a sentence right? Are you actually so inept and braindead you can only understand one word at a time and ignore context entirely?And even then Sonic was dodging lasers since CD.
>>146124252I just blocked DB channel. I can't stand their shit anymore.
>>146125704Get this CHADow fodder out of here
>>146126043Holy shit, are all SHITnicggers this illiterate? Can't even understand basic sentence structure.That statement is straight up TELLING you that Sonic is nearing light speed and will exceed. How the fuck are you this retarded? Are you brown?
>>146126055SEETHING
>>146126043Sonic keeping with Cyan laser wisps means he has to light speed at bare minimum
>>146126051>shitowCHADbob's bitch
Does Bowser get Paper Jam Bowser?
>>146126055>Sonic will exceed light speed at this rate if he keeps running>Sonic keeps running in the cutscene>Thus Sonic exceeded light speed in the cutsceneImagine having zero critical thinking skills and being so mentally handicapped you can't even comprehend a cutscene in a game made for children to understand.
>>146126043Wanna know who else dodged lasers?
>>146126086>HeadcanonLeast dishonest Sonigger.
>>146126088>A blaster,[2] also called a gun,[3] was any type of ranged weapon that fired bolts of intense plasma or particle-based energy, often mistaken for lasers.>plasma>mistaken for lasers
>>146126086No, unless he actually maintained those rates he was going, he didn't reach light speed. Can you prove he continued to gain speed that let him reach light speed?
>>146126099Uh retardbro, lots of characters use laser weapons in SW. Pretty much all ships use lasers. Ergo, Han BEASTlo speedblitzes that slow nigger JOBnic.
>S-Sonic isn't FTL!!! YOU HEAR ME?!?! HE ISN'T ISN'T HE ISN'THere's him traversing an infinite corridor in its entirety btw
>>146126094You were literally unaware of the cutscene until I referred you to it because you are clueless and know nothing about the series despite claiming to have played every game. Your word is worth less than nothing kek>>146126105>Sonic: Light speed? That's small time. There's no challenge!>Omega: Does not compute...Sonic continues running in the cutscene because Omega's measurements of his speed keep changing, and if he continued running he would've exceeded light speed.
>>146125740He should get Loyal Metal Sonic, I don't think he should get Metal Overlord or ready-to-betray Metal Sonic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqHxGoFERZw>"Heh, here that, faggots? I'm faster than light! You can't touch me-AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE NOOOOOOO SPARE ME EGG-SAMA PLEAAAAAAASE DON'T DRAIN MY SUPER BUSSY AND TURN ME INTO A FURRY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AGHHHHHHHHHHWOOOOOOGA!!!!"
>>146126130Anon, that literally just says he traversed until he reached the purple maelstrom.
How did Joker get back up from this?
>>146126168He had insta revive on his Persona
>>146126168Social links
>>146126126Sonic should be fast as the cyan wisp at bare minimum so he's light speed. With further amps like Super Sonic, that would increase his speed faster than light, it's basic reasoning.
Does Bowser have any minions who can possess machinery? If so that swings things a lot in his favor.
>>146126181>It just is because I said soVery cool!
>>146126168his will surpassed that of all mankind
>>146126197>denies what the game says about the wispsCyan wisps are in universe stated to be lasers, that just shows, that's now what I say, it's what the games say.
>>146126215Yeah and "lasers" in fiction can mean anything, moron. Did you already forget the Star Wars example?
>>146126192If Bowser gets King Boo, King Boo has minions called Possessors that should be able to maybe possess machinery?
>>146126161You can pick apart and reject as many feats as you want but I have hundreds of feats to prove Sonic is MFTL until you cope. Here's an official Adventure 1 bio.
Does Mario or Bowser even have any actual FTL feats in cutscenes?Outside of vague statements and fan calcs because you can do that to wank Sonic too.
>>146126222>All Sonigger has are statements from shady, unreliable sources>No feats, no direct creator statements, no cutscenes, nothingMhm very convincing, much like the niggaversal Kratos "evidence".
>>146126219Your mean your retarded star wars example which contradicted star wars canon itself?Blasters like the ones Solo used aren't lasers, they're plasma. You got two different franchises wrong you dipshit.
>>146126239https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/DLT-18_laser_rifleWhat's this then, dumbass? Hmm... it's a LASER.Go back to your furry convention.
>>146126227Here's Vs SHARTle's wank.>Massively FTL+ (Capable of reacting while being launched by a Launch Star. Capable of dodging attacks from a Grand Star-powered Bowser, who can tag Starship Mario with his meteors and flew to the center of the universe in a short time. Capable of reacting to Bowser and Bowser Jr riding the Koopa Clown Car, which flew towards the sun and from their home planet to a nearby galaxy in a short period of time)
Sonic is like a DBZ character but for people who never grew out of their obsession with crappy video games. Stop talking about this slow ass faggot, this is about Eggman and Bowser
>>146126250Oh, this is Mario btw, who they scale Bowser too.
>>146126258...'s laundry.
>>146126246That wasn't even the gun Han got shot at with anyways.https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/DT-12_heavy_blaster_pistolThis one doesn't have a laser label on it.
>>146126168Outside help is allowed if Lousy wants you to win.
>>146126168Joker would have never been hit with this btw
>>146126192King Boo's ghosts should be able to do it. They possess devices in the Luigi's Mansion games.
>>146126273It doesn't need to be the specific gun, dunce. Lasers are a common weapon in Star Wars. Han can literally dodge lasers while piloting his ship.Do you want to argue that Han fucking Solo is FTL now?
>>146126251Bowser and Eggman's speed scale off Mario and Sonic dumbass
>>146126273>Star Wars Battlefront descriptions for featsholy shit lmao
>>146126284Your only proof for the laser rifle being light speed is the fact it's called a laser rifle. If you only actually stayed consistent with your rationale, then Greedo's blaster not having 'laser' in its name means you're wrong by your own logic. Ironic how you autistically screech about headcanon when you're the one making assumptions you pulled out of your ass nowKEK
I am a furry. I am a Sonic fan. I am proud.
>>146126296>Goalpost movingFunny, weren't you the guy claiming Sonic dodging lasers made him FTL?I accept your concession. Another SHITnicgger btfo.
>>146126288Star Wars Outlaws is part of Disney canon chud
>>146126303Your shit for brains tried to disprove Sonic dodging lasers by using an example from Star Wars that failed by your own definition because you can't even prove the guns used against Han were lasers to begin with.And you never even addressed the other cutscenes because you're evidently too incompetent.
>>146126318>Continued goal post moving after being proven wrongWhy are Soniggers so fucking stupid? They really ARE trying to emulate CHADgon CHAD as much as they can, huh?
>>146126234kek stay seething, at least we can bring up sources to prove Sonic is FTL while all you can do is bitch and moan.
>Oneshots everyone below Solar System level
>>146126326Besides the zillion anti-feats in the games that prove Sonic isn't anywhere close to light speed.
>>146126335>My Life As A JOBBER RobotYou're next after I'm through with the Soul Society
>>146126325>laughably incompetent dbspic who knows nothing outside of his sweaty mandrama show for future cartel victimsYou're only proving my point.
>>146126342Nigga you do not want to bring up anti-feats, this is not a battle you will win with Bowser.
>>146126335>>146126346Oh man Beerus, you better lend me some of your Hakai, this is BASE NICKELODEON I’m up against…..
>>146126346>Jobby Phantom beating ANYONE from Soul Societyjobs to Ikkaku.
>>146126355Sonic dies to lava btw.
>>146126355Prove that's not multiversal lava. It already flows like water so its nothing like real lava.
>>146126348>I have no argument and I must sneed about the superior work my shoddy shovelware series shamelessly copied
If non canon material is on the table then Giorno can't lose because in the non canon but official novel Jorge Joestar, Giorno uses GER to undo his own death
>>146126386Joker used charm on Giorno so he doesn't want to undo it gg
>>146126394>Joker used charm on GiornoThat seems kinda gay.
>>146125540... But what MUs does this help JoJo win?Josuke and Kira get graped by Yu and Adachi, and those two are mus that likely be next for jojo.
>>146126379Bold of you to assume it's worth bragging about pointing out the mistakes of a negative IQ mouthbreather like you.
>>146124252>Joker beat Giorno.That's it, DB lost all the credibility they had>>146124273spbp
>>146124904>>146124273kek
How come Shido vs Valentine doesn't really come up as Jojo vs Persona match?
>>146124905>I honestly don’t see any connections for Jotaro vs Kenshiro besides “80’s manga protags who punch really fast”.They don't need more.
>>146125108yes
>>146126406What if they give Kira Hayato as equipment?
>>146125118Hitting it really hard like Super Sonic and Super Classic Sonic did.
>>146125135>>146125144People are angry because they make Nolan like 450 times faster than light just because he traveled the universe.but in the series he couldn't dodge lasers, explosions and couldn't catch a guy using teleportation.Also the first fight of the series debunk this result.https://youtu.be/TqxXVNejouM?si=1oRvrN5dgqmEv3m9
I WANT SPIDER FROM COMMAND MISSION VS SHADE FROM DARK CHRONICLES
>>146126471Fan speed calcs and scaling wank always make no sense when taken in the context of the story
>>146126471Note that he could not dodge a single blow from that flash copy, he could only catch it when the fist had already landed and he could only capture the rebound.
>>146126496nah, just db is so retarded to say this.
Who should fight moving goalpost Beerus? In the original Death Battle, he had an incomplete version of Ultra Instinct. Now he should have a better version of Vegeta's Ultra Ego, which Vegeta admitted he was a novice at using destruction energy compared to Beerus.
>>146126513Moving Goalpost Beerus always wins because he's a Moving Goalpost, so Black Adam since he's played by Dwayne Johnson and he always wins because he's Dwayne Johnson.
Would Giorno have won if he was a therapist
>>146126513>>146126517>It's only good when capeshit does itYou guys are cancer.
>>146126406Yu vs Josuke is ass, Kira vs Adachi is definitely a match where this buffs gonna matter. Shit like Jhin vs Mista, Kars vs Meruem and Diego vs X Drake are some thats also gonna feel that swank. Its an actual monkey's paw situation. Rewatch Giorno's analysis, they really thought they could sneak in those weird arguments without no one noticing.
>>146126529I didn't mention capeshit at all schizo. Why did you reply to me?
>>146126533Kars gapes Mereum anyhow.
>>146126533>random irrelevent One Piece side character getting a Death Battlewhyat least Diego was a major antagonist for his part and is relatively popular
>>146126529What are you talking about retard?
Slayer vs Chief rematch should have been something they did years ago, feels kinda pointless now. Everyone knows Slayer godstomps the Haloverse, let alone Chief.
>>146126553Chief vs Titus Space Marine when
There's really gotta be some more fun JoJo matches than stomp or be stomped, right? There has to be a fun marksman duel with Mista, or a cool cowboy for Gyro?
>>146126544I like the fight. Prob not happening but a guy can dream.
By the logic they used in this fight, Johnny and Josuke (8) can beat Joker
>>146126588Didn't Tusk Act 4 job to TWOH as well?
>>146126588Wouldn't Death Battle rule that they get statued?
>>146126533How would those buffs matter in kira vs adachi? Kira's a mid tier at best character with a gimmick ability as his one tool against adachi.Adachi will scale to most of the stuff Joker got simply because he's a canonical high tier, so he already statstomps. That's without bringing out the fact that Adachi is a ranged fighter which really doesn't help Kira, or how he could just spam him with grim ripper army.And the funniest part about it that Kira is a huge coward and gets scared easily the second he realizes he's fighting another stand user, and guess what? Adachi is a fighter that intimidates and fearmog people he's fighting (evil smile skill) and has an instant kill against scared enemies.Kira has ONE trick that's not even that reliable.Adachi has multiple ways of reliably kill Kira, it's a very huge stomp no matter how you slice it.
>>146126592Johnny only shot his golden bullets at DIO in EoH, he never attempted to use Act 4s infinite rotation
>>146126588Josuke isn't that powerful. Go Beyond is nice hax but he's not good at controlling it and it still has to be manually shot and hit the opponent.
>>146126622Bites the Dust can't work either because Adachi wouldn't give a shit about Kiras identity
>>146126622>>146126653I want kiradachi to happen because it's the only villain persona matchup that has any chance.
I feel like this fight sets a bad precedent for the future
>>146126680I feel like this season is turning into a mistake
>>146125318Apocalypse vs. Adam gets kind of overlooked and it's been mentioned before but part of it might be because of all the BA shilling happening at the time thanks to the Rock
>>146126653To be fair, that doesn't matter. BTD activates if Adachi finds out his identity in any form. The real problem is that Kira can't use Killer Queen if BTD is active, so it's basically a Hail Mary maneuver.
>Another Army fight>Bringing in named characters, so you can watch them get unceremoniously killed as fodder in a match-up that isn't even their ownThis is gay.
Kira will somehow fight like Jotaro Dio and Giorno instead of hiding and using his enviroment to fight Adachi
>>146126622yeah this is generally just a worse fight than Joker Giorno which was already only a fight because of GER, with the all the extra shit Persona characters get on DB there's no way Adachi doesn't just statue and delete Kira even if they give Killer Queen maximum wank
>>146124482Sportacus
>>146126553… in bizarro world where DoomJOB doesn’t get GAPED by 11D Chief and Cortana.
FYI back in their DB cast a couple of years back they discussed this very match and argued Mecha Sonic is in fact the strongest of all of Eggman's creations because he's the only one shown to use the Master Emerald to transform into a super form and so they scaled his super form to the other super rodents.There's a chance we might actually get SMBZ Mecha Sonic in this match up if they still believe in that argument of theirs.
>>146126836G-merl has a super form too
>>146126836Who can possibly beat Tressa?
>>146126836That would be dumb because base Knuckles trounced Super Mecha Sonic since it couldn’t hold onto the super form for more than a few seconds without needing to recharge.
>>146126860My dick
Eggman scales above the chaos emeralds with the ruby sapphire. He doesn't need the time shitter to win this match.
>>146126553As long they ignore that feat Cortana just did where she took over an 11D space like an infection. And that the Didact went after her and was fully able to destroy her with his bear hands. Chief scales to this guy.
>>146126984>ruby sapphireRayquaza victim
>>146126984Sonic Channel gave him a superform using the original phantom rubySuper Sonic easily beat him
>>146126362Sonic dies to water.
>>146126996Applying Kratoswank to Chief I see
>>146126996Didn't Infinite run out of power creating a giant fireball with it?
Deamstone is a better version of the phantom ruby.
>Both can have any weapons or mcguffins they've used in their careers, even those people would argue where (sic) one time or non standardwhat the fuck is the point of minions, when they're just going to whip out bullshit hax mcguffins?>>>>>>>star rod, but I'm going to send my goombas at you
>>146127041Entertainment value for the viewer I guess.
>>146126836Years ago they said they wouldn't use EOH and look what happened now
>>146126547>>146126537lmao faggots
>>146127086We don’t sign our posts here.
>last good street tier ep is Red Hood vs Winter SoldierShame they are too broke to hire live action actors now
>>146125728>Level 0 to deal with one dude>One dude who beats him anywaylol
>>146126984Explain how the phantom fraud doesn't lose to the dream stone.
>>146127035That fireball was outerversal.
>>146125108Nah Omni-man v Bardock exist and soon Kratos v Asura will happen.
>>146127143It came to me in a dream.
As always Death Battle yesterday made Powerscaling History!This time they settled a debate once and for all! And they gave Joker his rightfully W!First they Fraudcheck FEATLESSdock proving you can't win by scaling alone, now they Fraudchecked NLFno proving you can't win a battle you are hopelessly outmatched just because you have one badly explained Hax that has too little showings to determine it's actual power.POWERSCALING WON DEATH BATTLE DID IT AGAIN!
>>146126622Lightspeed stand, also EoH scaling
>>146127041Because otherwise it will be like Ben 10 vs Hal where people complain about how we didn't get to see any of their less powerful but more entertaining powers used.
>"Bring me Jack Frost!"
>>146127207But enough about Bowser.
>>146127207>bardock reps scaling>when nolan literally got numberrot stats because of scalefaggotry and a long chain of bullshit
>>146124898That's a stretch, different situations and none of those sonic characters are in the Eggman army.>>146124937>>146124943King boo counters Sage's cyber space for Bowser.
>>146127263Sage specifically counters King Boo
>>146125728>>146127132The difference is that Alucard literally can't break open level 0 by himself.
>>146127268King Boo specifically counters Sage.
>>146127274Uno reverse
>>146127277Reverse Breaker.
>>146127269They needed to give Alucard a lose-con, because they knew Dio with his mid-regeneration couldn't go 1,000,000,000+ to 0, against an illusionist wallhax toolkit
>>146119223>muh freezelmao, Diofags really think he can do this huh?
>>146127228> Kira getting anywhere near EoH scaling > lightspeed stand as if adachi doesn't get joker speed scaling Retarded or bait?
>>146127228Star Platinum is lightspeed and Killer Queen is explicitly much slower than Star Platinum
>>146127362Star plat is not light speed. Never was, that whole thing is from a misunderstanding. The author thought the speed of electricity was the same as light. Plus, nothing in part 3 was nearly thst fast. They gave Silver Chariot a speed limit and TOLD YOU IN UNIVERSE what it is. I'm tired of you idiots thinking that Jojo is ftl when it fucking isnt.
>>146127336The weird thing is, he thinks that freezing Alucard's head would do literally anything, when his body is just a skinsuit around an amorphous mass of eldrich energy; you can see his head slough from his body as an empty mask when he's fucking up Luke Valentine; it's also one of the reasons why fleshbuds wouldn't work, due to nonstandard anatomy.
>>146125500That rule is dumb and nobody uses it outside of DB because of they're dumb and/or have anti-Bleach bias
Enough about shit matchups, post kino
>>146127397>That rule is dumbIt's actual lore though. YYH also had something similar where spirit attacks are invisible to humans if you're not spiritually aware.
If you ignore NLF isn't GER kind of not a huge deal? I mean that's what happens in EoH. Even before jobbing, Giorno isn't just some god in that.
>>146127387>Star plat is not light speed>Canon material directly states he is light speed >No-no... You see the author didn't knew what he was writing, I on the other hand know way more than him about his own work It's okay anon, next time choose a verse with characters fast enough to deal with Jojo
>>146125307No he's street tier.
>>146127421
Alucucks really wanted a 10 minute animation of Al being bullied by DIO over and over again until he died in tears?
Scaling kind of doesn't fucking work when everybody is a hax machine
>>146126848He didn't make Gemerl, he just repaired and spray painted Emerl.
>>146125396Depends on how much wank you give him.
>>146127498>Alucard getting splattered for 48 minutes, until he eventually Street Sharks DioMore accurate depiction tbqh
>>146126836Metal Sonic got a super form he could actually maintain, using a Dark Ring in Knuckles Chaotix but no one talks about this shit cause it's pretty much untouched lore.
Will there ever be a death battle where weakness to the sun, or water or anything that's a relatively common part of real life is an actually deciding factor?
>>146125578So Bowser has access to basically all the different artifacts he's used. Star Rod, Grand Stars, Power Stars, Lazy Shell, potentially the character macguffins in their contained states (Star Spirits and SM3DW Fairies), the Pixels, Dreamy Stone, Vaccuum Shroom, and Fury Bowser (via Jr's Paintbrush).
>>146127476He litteraly admitted it in an interview but you ignored the rest of my post that backs me up anyway. So, whatever.
>>146126883To be fair, until the comics, that was a unique way to go Super. So it seemed less like >Oh, he can barely maintain a super form And more like >Wow, I didn't know anyone could draw out power from the Master Emerald like thatAnd it stayed a unique occurrence for years.
>>146127548I mean Mania invokes Metal Sonic Kai in a sense with Giga Metal.
Mecha was such a cool design, I wish he'd come back.
>>146127582I more meant the dark rings. Did they even mess with them in the Archie comics?
>>146127207>>First they Fraudcheck FEATLESSdock proving you can't win by scaling alone.Omni-man literally won by scaling alone take a break from sniffing your own farts and come back to reality.
>>146127583They let them rewrite him in the comics, which unfortunately tells me Sega has no plans for him.I like what they did with him, but I care more about game appearances than comic appearances, and Sega is usually more protective of the characters they care about, so imagine if they let them make such a serious change, it's cause they had burned him indefinitely.
>>146127591Archie comics didn't even use the Chaos Emeralds in a traditional sense until that big panda fused them together to make just 7 Chaos Emeralds. So yeah it makes sense that they ignored the Dark Ring.
While Bowser and his Army are focused on the Bots, couldn't Eggman just build some kind of laser to disintegrate Bowser down to nothing? That way he can't keep fighting as a Skeleton.
>>146126394Giorno uses his social links as a mobster to undo that
>>146127610They should use Shyguy Surfing scaling to have him effortlessly trounce the Silver Surfer.
>>146127618Not with the amount of artifacts the battle premise has Bowser loaded with. He's got several forms of invincibility with only very context specific vulnerabilities.
>>146127638It's insanely fucking retarded how many world-ending mcguffins they're giving Bowser
>>146127618Eggman can do whatever the story needs him to do. He depower Super Sonic and make a star tier laser, both just to keep the story in those games moving. But he's also a bumbling idiot who gets usurped by other villains all the time. It's really hard to use a character like this without knowing if you're giving them the correct amount of benefit of the doubt.
>>146127647I wonder how far they are going with it, because if they are giving him the Grand Stars from Galaxy then he has universal rewriting scale of power.
>>146126168Enduring Soul, obviously
>>146127689Eggman has to be getting something really, really good, because otherwise it's blatant favourtism towards Bowser>we're doing guy A vs guy B... but we gave guy A access to a gun he held once back in college
>>146124865Eggman is kinda a joke to sonic? Bowser is actually a strong tough Dinosaur creature that is actually stronger then mario, but mario has powerups and stuff.I don't even know if you combined eggman with lex luthor and maybe Dr. Gero (dbz, the maker of CELL) if it would still be a joke to sonic? Sonic is pretty crazy.As much as I like the idea of smart tech guy, I don't think it stands much of a chance here?But maybe I don't know enough about Eggman.Someone tell me his craziest stuff?I'm guessing he uses the powerful chaos emeralds. (which are are basically like dc infinity stones?)
Storyboard is out. Artist added an extra post-battle scene ala Gojo vs Makima. Nice-looking board.https://x.com/dywtba_brony/status/1850877334649270583?s=46&t=T7ZKuOTnZ_1-CuTuRj6OnA
>>146127784Yeah, it's like, he got his ass beat in the meta-verse, or whatever, so the real giorno is still alive, right? that's a good way for jojoids to cope
>Bowser Jr means Shadow Mario could show up>Now Eggman has to deal with Bowser and the guy who beat his arch nemesis in the last DB
>>146124252>Dragon Ball Daima has just retconned ki into being magicOH NONONONONONONONONONOSUPERMAN BROS WE WON'T WIN A ROUND FOUR
>>146127805Aye. Storyboard bro made GER save him from getting nuked via Metaverse braindeath at the last second. It’s just a fun extra that has nothing to do with research or the fight, but it’s pretty neat.
>>146124904>Any official JoJo spinoff is canon Please no, nobody in any fictional universe comes as retardedly powerful and unbeatable as the George Joestar novels
>>14612783836 KARS ON MARS
>>146127763They occasionally try to make Eggman serious again, but then, like in Frontiers, the writers get too excited about new threats and he ends up being one of the first characters to make the new villain look more dangerous.This happened with Chaos, Neo Metal Sonic, Black Doom, Solaris, Gemerl and Emerl, Heavy King and sort of with Eggman Nega.
>>146127827>more SHITku cope over Superman CHADS
>>146127784This time the actual fight ended up looking just as, or even cooler than the story board.Still Joker swinging with his grappling hook and the Giorno + Gold experience jumping looks better here Also this extra scene should have made it into the final product
>>146126406>and those two are mus that likely be next for jojo.There are like three other JoJo MU’s where they win that are more likely to be next what’re you talking about.
>>146127784>For storyboard Jack Frost he just used a traced image Lmao
>>146127838I unironically do want a Jorge Joestar anime at some point, it's a fun read and [Wound]s are a cool concept
>>146127763>Someone tell me his craziest stuff?He has the time eater which eats and swallows entire timelines, then you have the Phantom Ruby which warps reality itself to what the wielder wishes. You also have his creations like Metal Sonic who has fought Sonic on equal terms before, and Sage who can control any tech and seal anyone to a different dimension with her powers.
>>146127838I'm worried this is all just Swan making a sacrifice so he can use Dio who has both a Beyond and World over Heaven at the same time.>This will seem less like horseshit If I establish a shared multiverse as a lose con for a Jojo first, before I use it to make a bullshit composite!
>My biggest complaint about Mario games is that Bowser gets too much screen time, and we need more returning/new villains, like having Tatanga, Grodus, etc come back.>Always been jealous of how Sonic has so many new villains aside from Eggman, but never been interested in the games>This ultimately leads to Bowser getting stacked with feats, and Eggman getting shaftedIt's like Death Battle embodies everything I hate about how properties are handled.
>>146127784>>146127805I mean this is basically what most people were already saying. Even when he loses and gets his fragment crushed in the metaverse, GER could just snap it back IRL so he doesn’t actually die. Basically he’s the second loser to not outright die.
I really want Bowser to win but I wouldn't be shocked at all if Eggman wins. From what I'm seeing most of their items, abilities and higher-level shit cancel each other out. So, I think Death Battle will just end up going with Base Bowser vs Base Eggman (In a random mech) and Bowser should comfortably take that.I've heard talk about the Metal Virus but most of Bowsers army should be fine because they're not organic beings. If Bowser goes Dry Bowser, then he's safe too. Hell, I think it's questionable can the Virus even affect them because they're all mostly Magic
>>146127888I want it purely for Funny Valentine, Funnier Valentine, and Funniest Valentine all being on screen together at once
>>146127902It was the same problem with Optimus Prime vs. Gundam.The character they refuse to let go vs. the series they try to keep fresh.The former unfortunately has a huge advantage from stacked feats.
>>146127827>TARDku thinks he can beat SuperCHAD with “magic” when he doesn’t even have God Ki or UI now
>>146127912And the other being disc*rd, I imagine? vaguely remember ponoids talking about him being reborn from chaos, or some shit.
>>146127913Bowser should solo unless Eggman uses something like Egg Emperor where it's difficult to say who would win
>>146126168
>>146127922They should put Optimus up against Superman or Mazinger, both of them are old and iconic series with a ridiculous amount of feats accumulated over the years.
>>146127913allegedly fire permakills people with Metal Virus, but they couldn't show it because Blaze wasn't in the arc
>>146127943Where does Blaze even land power wise? In Rush she's essentially equal to Sonic and even has her own Super form, but IDW she has like a Human Torch tool kit.Does she just have all that shit? Same with Rouge having Knuckles abilities in SA2 but Tails abilities in Heroes. So does she just get both?
>>146124901Unless specificed otherwise, size is a good barometer for power, just like destructive capability. Breaking bigger thing (assuming same material) is more impressive, Maruki warping reality on a larger scale than GER is more impressive, and there's no reason to assume KC has some sort of hyper resistance of reality warping to exceed Maruki's feat, and Joker was able to deal with Maruki and he has several means of resisting Will to Zero shit like his wildcard type so it stands to reason that Joker could resist GER's RTZ long enough to fire an Almighty shot it can't RTZ and doesn't have the durability to tank.
>>146127923>Superman can't best a child OH NONONONO he can't even FLY
>>146127925Yeah him. Since he couldn’t really “die” in the first place.
>>146127784>A-Alice!why did joker call his persona out like that
>>146127984Joker only dealt with Maruki because he explicitly held back. It's pointed out by several characters that Maruki could erase anyone from his cognition instantly, but he doesn't because he wants Joker and co. to come around to his vision.
>>146127988>This is the guy who’s supposed to do better because of magicKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>146127988I still hope this show is good but goddamn is it slow. We've had like a movie worth of run time now and it's just been set up.
>>146127989From what I remember, it was described like, he's the embodiment of chaos, and it would require the erasure of the concept from the home universe to put him down for good, or some shit? By banishing Pyramid Boy outside of that reality, it was effectively a draw.
>>146128010To be fair Super didn't start the plot till episode five
>>146127822Pretty sure Metal Sonic would beat both Jr and Shadow Mario. He not as strong as the real Mario, plus he has the worst Ultimate Attack of all time.
>>146128022This one isn't supposed to be some indefinite length Toie production though, It's got limited episodes from what I understand.
Death Battle should have stayed dead if this is the quality of their scaling
>>146127996>*GULP*>I-IS THAT A TWINK ANGEL????>ALLLIIIIIIICCCEEEEEEE!!! J-JACK FROST!!!! SATANAEL SAAAAVEE MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>146128027Metal Sonic can't even best fucking classic Amy, seriously she fucked him up in the coming kekHe's a full on Jobber
>>146128036Around 24 it seemsI don't mind the build up, it's nice to have a DB show that isn't immediately "ACTION ACTION ACTION FIGHT FIGHT NOW!"
>>146127984Researcher hands wrote this pathetic post. Who are you?
What is this Persona bullshit? GER LITERALLY CAN RESET ANY ACTION TO ZERO AND CHANGE REALITY HE CAN JUST GO "UHHHH sorry that attack doesn't work on me and just to be safe it never even happened lol" on ANYTHING Joker throws at him what kinda bullshit is this "he lost lol!"
>>146126553Doomguy vs Security ChiefI seriously doubt they're giving Doomguy multiversal retardation btw
I'm just happy that GER got fraudchecked really
People keep name-dropping all these other potential characters to use in Bowser vs Eggman, but with the pacing of the animations, there's no way the majority of them will get satisfying representation; they're going to get maybe a few seconds of screen time, or the scene is going to be saturated in so much shit it might as well be a Where's Waldo image.>If you squint at 7 minutes and 4 seconds, you can see Morton Koopa getting his head caved in by Mecha Sonic MK.I
>>146127984Joker couldn't do shit to Maruki doing a little thing like retconning him going to jail. Him resisting GER was retarded. You're retarded. God have mercy on your retarded soul.
>>146128067All he said was that Joker’s fought people who’ve warped on a larger scale than GER.
>>146128094And? Captain America has fought people who warped reality on a larger scale than GER. Can Captain America endure having his timeline fucked with? Of course not you retard.
>Death Battle researcher ittPut a trip on you goddamn coward.
>>146127784Basically affirming that Swan was only willing to let Giorno so easily go and with a brutal death because he technically doesn't die>>146127912Starscream is still alive, they had Tommy escape Kiryu's Absolute Zero
>>146127900It's clearly this. They literally reversed the fine print on EoH from Jotaro vs. Kenshiro.
>>146128102GER has timeline powers? This is news to me because I remember him being able to fuck with fate and erased reality, not entire stretches of time. >DiavoloThat lasted for ten seconds and is absolutely not enough to say that GER can impact ENTIRE timelines. That’s why the “larger scale” thing is important. Otherwise you’re just assuming that he could do something like rewind reality back to 0 and make the world go back to primordial sludge or the Big Bang.
I predict the Bob-ombs will do most of the killing
>>146128089He beat Maruki eventually btwCope about NLFGER getting fraudchecked btw retard.
>>146127784>Giorno lives>But this means Joker killed Jolyne and Jotaro by proxy.Amazing.
>>146128102Probably not, but if he had a gun that GER couldn't RTZ with a bullet it can't dodge and had the power to bust like a city or something he'd probably beat GER with it
>Ultraguy apparently mocks 5D Eggman{spoiler]Ultraguy has also apprently said that Bowser stomps in the matchup[/spoiler]Welp I think my Kings got this
>>146128182I don't wanna see any more Mario wank
>>146128182You got a source for that?
>>146128182There’re like five other researchers so I’m not really concerned with what one says. Then again I’m not all that concerned with this MU at all I’m just here for the fallout.
RIP Ro Butt nik
It feels like Bowser has a huge advantage because he has a bunch of fuckoff shit in terms of dumb universe+ shit vs Eggman's shit being really centralized towards a few objects, like if Eggman loses the Phantom Ruby or Time Eater, he loses a shitton of his arguments, if Bowser loses Star Rod, he has Kamek, he has the Dreamy Stone, he has the Grand Stars.
>Eggman can go super>All super forms are relative to each other, therefore super eggman would get multiversal stuff right off the bat via upscaling Solaris>Metal Sonic has a form that can harm Super Sonic, therefore being in the same ballpark as Solaris and also Multiversal >Time Eater is also Multiversal >Infinite is blatantly more powerful than Solaris so multiversal+Bowserbros... Our turtle is getting COOKED...
>>146127913How the fuck does Bowser counter Time Eater? He just freezes everything .
What's stopping the Time Eater from traveling back in time and just stomping baby Browser into a red mist
>>146128372Because Bowser can do the exact same thing with just his Magic. It's the main reason why I'm going team Bowser, him and a good chunk of his army having magic is what fucks Eggman over I feel.
>>146128372>Time huh? Thanks for the tip.
>>146128027Wonder Bowser Jr solos Metal Sonic.
>>146128372>Bowser and Mario can Time Travel on a whim by themselves in Yoshi's Island also this >>146128431
>>146128431Is that Hotel Mario
>>146128465Mario is Missing. The game that gave us Wee Gee.
i see everyone is still seething bout giorno's rags...
>>146128431The deepest Bowser lore will seal his victory.
It'd be funny if this battle was decided by obscure kids games to see who has the most out there bullshit possible
>Phantom Ruby lets Eggman spawn infinite clones>Bowser almost certainly has ways to resist existence erasure>both have time travel>Goomba vs Koopa ended the same wayThey're gonna do it aren't they?
>galaxyvideo max ghosted and blocked otto, taking the money otto paid in advanceIs everyone connected to death battle just a shitty person?
>>146128526>Uhh ..he has toonforce in The Adventure of Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon, therefore he wins!
>>146128512>>146128551UM...OTTO?
>>146128011Yep. And he also has time travel, which they ignored despite saying that he has it (and Bill doesn’t). Doesn’t matter how long it takes for him to come back if he can just Doctor Who right back.
>>146128323>>All super forms are relative to eachNot in the games. Super Mecha Sonic had to keep recharging. Hyper > Super. Super Sonic needed Eggman's help to hurt Super Gemerl. Super got outpaced in Frontiers. And Superstars may not say anything about powelevels, but it makes huge distinctions that there are differences between different characters super forms (Super Sonic, while Amy, Tails and Knuckles get "super powers" (maybe the same state Tails and Knuckles have in Heroes?) and Trip gets a whole unique form).
>>146128559Unfortunately, it is true.After the kiddie hrt stuff from his discord leaked, I sent him a message asking him to talk to his mod about making such statements. He ghosted and blocked me and I paid him in advance for work so yes, Max took my money and ran with and he's very likely pro child hrt.
>>146128323Infinite hasn't shown any Solaris tier feats, hype statements are featless (especially with Solaris not even being in the timeline) he can make a fake sun, that's about it. >Metal Overlord You also can't scale all super tier fights on the same level, or it'd run into a fallacy of Death egg robot from sonic 3 (which had missiles that harmed Super sonic) being somehow solaris level.
>>146128551I don't think most of them are bad people, just kind of silly and suck at researching. Speedy and unfortunately Max are the ones with concerning views about children.
>>146128551>galaxyvideo maxwho
>Bowser wills through existence erasure and infinite Phantom Ruby clones and stabs Lightman Eggman Nightmare with the Star Rod, prompting Eggman to try to reverse time with the Time Eater and suckerpunch Bowser, prompting Bowser to go back to the very beginning of the fight and Item Steal the Phantom Ruby before crushing Eggman to deathWoah...kino...
>>146128613He edits Death Battle videos.
>>146128588Also "Doom Shadow" soloing Metal Overlord when it took 12 people (including regular Shadow), three in super state, to beat him before, has insane implications on power scaling.
>>146127827Well I think it is more accurate to say that Gomah and co just did not recognize what ki attacks are since they were confused at what they were looking at in general. This goes doubly true since the Shenron stuff is described more directly as being light magic.
>>146128627Give what happened with the dream stone, couldn't Bowser eat the phantom ruby for a power up?
>>146128627>Eggman goes back in time, hears baby Bowser's annoying as fuck crying from Yoshi's Island DS.
>>146128655Yeah, if he can steal it, although I do wonder how Death Battle feels about theoretically stealing the opponent's shit as a wincon
>>146127902It's opposite for me.Eggman getting fucked over to shill random kaiju and anime wankery is the worst part of the dark age and hate how nostalgia for it is making a comeback.
>>146128372>>146128683Baby Bowser then eats Eggman for lunch. GGs. >mmm, scrambled eggs
>>146128075If DB can give Kratos, who has zero universal/multiversal feats and all of it is fan headcanon, then they’re giving Doomguy his niggaversal stuff since it’s actually supported the lore AND the devs themselves.Not like he needs it to gape Chief, though.
>21 hours later>I am forgotten
All I want is for Bowser to have a better showing since his last shit battle with Dorf
>>146128713I want this simply because I hate the >Goes back and kills you as a baby theoretical everyone is obsessed with, and this is such a good answer to it.
>>146128431But he won't be even able to move here. The Time Eater just freezes everything.
>>146124252Bowser lost to Ganon no way he's going to beat Eggman.
>>146128743It's kind of a boring MU if you think about it. Either they give GER fanon NLF and he totally outclasses Joker or they only give him actual feats in which case Joker totally outclasses.
>>146128583Such a shame Max ended up being faggot pushing troonshine on children. I really liked Pinhead vs Tallman.
>>146128740>Not like he needs it to gape Chief, though.Say that again nigga
>>146128767The fuck is this from?? Did Sonic beat him?
>>146128767Eggman jobs to Tails, no way is he going to beat GODser. His kids are real unlike INCELman’s.
>>146124252>>146128767>Bowser lost to Ganon no way he's going to beat Eggman.Ganon would beat Eggman too because of Death battle NLF for him, he annoyingly can't lose to anyone without a holy weapon, even though his biggest feat is castle level.With Star Rod (a holy artifact), Bowser would have won against this fallacy wanked Ganondorf.
>>146128583You should have realized he was going to rip you off when you learned his mod staff was 2/3rds troon. Max has no personal honor or convictions and is bullied by shemales into whatever position they want him to have.
>>146128431Negged by Phantom Ruby and time stones. Eggman will also have the Super Emeralds and Master Emerald. >>146128805Bowser also jobs to a random Toad. No way he can beat THE E.G.G.M.A.N.!
>>146128811Oh and I was the guy that leaked the drama so I guess I caused this. Sorry he took your money Otto.
>>146128818Eggman jobbed to 4 year old Cream.
>>146128787Doomslayer just tanks this. His armor is way to tough to be entreated by it and it canonically can't shoot through ships so there's no way it has enough power to penetrative DoomSlayers armor.
>>146128826It wasn't a lot of money but it does still sting that he would do that. I'm honestly more hurt learning that he wants to shoot up kids with hormones.
>>146128787Yup yup yup, 11D Master Chief with the Binary Rifl GAPES DoomJOB.
>>146128855Cream the rabbit? Who would do such perverted thing???
>>146128855And Bowser loses to a single little mushroom man with no legs.
>When you see a child with unaltered hormones
>>146128583He could’ve refunded you before he blocked you, what a bitch.
>>146128903Oh my fucking god what. How did THIS ended up here? Legit never put this in the file button.
>>146128923If you think that makes him a bitch just imagine him taking all the feminine cock of his mod team.
>>146128904That mushroom man is an adult. SUCKSEGGSman loses to literal children kek.
>>146128771Yeah, it''s a boring matchup that comes down to a single question. Which is why it is the worst of the popular JoJo vs Persona matches.
So, if we went with more 'what would they usually have with them' what would we have?'Bowser>His Clown Car and regular car>Bowser Jr. with his paintbrush and his Clown Car>Koopalings>Kamek>Kammy?>King Bomb-Obm>King Whomp>Goomboss>King Boo?>various minibosses>airships>various enemiesEggman>Egg Mobile>Wrecking Ball>Drill Mobile>Metropolis Zone Boss>Death Egg Robot>Egg Dragoon>Egg Walker?>Sage (not sure how useful she would be without ancient tech)>Metal Sonic>Hard Boiled Heavies>Egg Fleet/Egg Carrier/Death Egg>Death Egg Sentinels>Badniks>Egg Pawns
>>146128903What did they do to Cream to turn her into a spanish man?
>>146128904This Ala-Gold MONSTER solos the sonic verse?
>>146128951She was a biological girl below the age of consent. Max got to her.
>>146128807Wasn't dark/light Gaia energy kind of like a holy energy in Sonic Unleashed?
>>146128876>entreated
>>146128974>Wasn't dark/light Gaia energy kind of like a holy energy in Sonic Unleashed?Light gaia, maybe, but Eggman doesn't have access to that.
You could maybe argue for Chaos Emeralds before they became Aylmao shit.
>>146128876The UIC report about his armor implies that they did find a way to break it, and if those shitters can then a heavy duty Forerunner weapon can as well
>>146128787Doomguy’s fist hits harder than this thing, nigga. Doomguy’s armor can tank hits from Marauder axes and the Dark Lord, this is just a weaker ballista.
If Nintendo and Sega had to answer this, what do you think they would come to (outside of the usual, they're equal).On one hand, neither are really serious villains, but right now Sega is treating closer to how he wa in the 2000s. Not that Bowser isn't also sometimes used as a hype man for new villains, but it tends to happen less to him....
>>146129057Honestly probably EggmanNintendo will probably have Eggman outsmart Bowser similar to how Ganon fucked him over in Brawl
>>146128583> troon battle associates supporting child mutilationWhat a surprise, never saw it coming.
>>146129122On the other hand, Sega isn't really pushing Eggman as the big threat anymore.
>>146129057They’d never answer such a question. Sega scrapes and bows before Nintendo.
>>146129018Nah it's never shown that sort of power. Again it can't even shoot through most spaceships so I doubt it can shoot through DoomSlayers armor. Maybe if Chief could hit him a few times with it but that's not gonna happen because Doom Slayer would have already killed him. Chiefs best chance is if he gets amped Infinite Cortana. She'd fuck DoomSlayer's suit up and Chief could just take his time peeling Doomslayer out of the suit and then shooting him with the digitizing rifle. I'm kinda doubting they will give Chief that though.
>>146129128Max uses a cartoon pfp to lure in kids so his troon mob can fuck them.
>>146128811they also banned the cobson guy for saying that shemales community is a death cult.
>>146128954Cream the 4 year old Rabbit could solo this squad. Cream >Eggman>Mario>Bowser
>>146129057In the Olympic games they are both equally incompetent morons who make each other look worse.
I heard Max got in trouble at his last job because he did something so I'm not surprised he ripped Otto off.
>>146129182Her Chao attacks were OP in Sonic Advanced 2 desu
>>146129245Elaborate
>>146129259I've just heard rumors that he used funds the wrong way and it caused a big fight.
>>146129182>Cream >Eggman>Mario>Bowseron opposite day
Face to face, no power ups, Bowser could just oneshot Eggman with a punch or breath fire on him.
>>146129182Cream the phat-assed rabbit could drain their balls
>>146129461Eggman noclips Bowser.
>>146129245this death battle drama gets deep
>>146129461Eggman outruns Sonic on foot in the final stages of Sonic 2 and 3.
Bowser loses to a plumber.Eggman? He's basically a plumber, his buildings have pipes. All Eggman has to do is jump on Bowser (with the aid of a leaping machine cuz he'd never get off the ground).
>>146129722>Eggman outruns Sonic on foot in the final stages of Sonic 2 and 3.Going to be written as an outlier. Just like Bowser's 9800 IQ in Mario.
>Eggman loses to a rat and other members of the animal kingdom constantly >Bowser: uh, meow?
>>146127459I don't care, it circumvents a ton of MUs simply because of it.>No Akatsuki vs Espada>No Espada vs Warlords>No Kenpachi vs Battle Beast (though that's fucked no thanks to Sun Disk scaling)>No Mayuri vs Orochimaru >No Whitebeard vs Yamamoto>No Escanor vs Yamamoto>No Captains vs Warlords>No Captains vs ArchonsAll because of a rule that again NOBODY OUTSIDE OF DEATH BATTLE USES. NOBODY, BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING *BORING*
>>146129775*now thanks to
>>146129775I'm sorry anon, next time try to look for MUs with actual characters instead of Fodders who can't see ghost
Is there a reason Eggman couldn't just camp out in the Space Colony Arc or Death Egg and destroy any ship Bowser sends at him?
Will DB give Yuji a good fight against Okarun or will they feed him to Denji?
>>146128655Well he does have the vaccuum shroom.
>>146129863Bowser can also camp out. Bowser also can teleport to the Ark.
>>146128743Well Giorno kinda sucks, people only really got upset at how stupid the Omnipotent Orb ruling is and the EoH thing.
>>146129863He can make himself bigger than a planet like in Galaxy 2
>>146129922Bowser can teleport?
>>146129942The EoH thing is a Dio Swank Trojan horse and everyone is going to regret letting it slide when Swan comes to collect.
>>146128627>your face when Eggman left the groundhog day loop device from Sonic Boom on
>>146128818The Super Emeralds are the one artifact set Eggman never gets a hold of. He's also only ever used the Master Emerald as a power source rather than taping into its more mystical traits.
>>146128950Eggman would also still have the Phantom Ruby in the form of Infinite I think. Regardless, I don't think any of the standard equipment compares to Fury Bowser, which is technically always on the table as a last resort.
>>146129826OH SURE LEMME JUST CALL UP EVERY JAPANESE MANGAKA AND SAY 'HEY MAKE THIS SERIES THAT DOESN'T HAVE GHOSTS OR HAS GHOSTS WITHOUT INVISIBILITY SUDDENLY HAVE INVISIBLE GHOSTS AND GIVE EVERY CHARACTER THE ABILITY TO SEE THEM TO MEET THE CRITERIA OF A RETARDLY BIASED YOUTUBE SHOW AND A DUMBFUCK ANONYMOUS POSTER ON 4CHAN ACTING LIKE A WHINNY CHILD THAT GOES "NUH UH MY CHARACTER WINS BECAUSE YOURS CAN'T SEE MINE".' THAT SOUNDS SO MUCH MORE EASIER THAN JUST IGNORING THE RULE AND FOCUSING ON THE STUFF THAT MATTERS.
New thread>>146130048
It's ez. Sonic beats Goku, therefore Eggman wins. Simple.
>>146130060...on opposite day.
>>146130060>Sonic beats JOBkuIrrelevant.
>>146129122I don't think so, Eggman hardly ever uses subterfuge (Knuckles, Amy hostage gambit, Unleashed, Trip, and thats it?) and usually loses to just raw straightforward assaults. Bowser on the other hand starts most of his schemes with subterfuge and does false alliances about as often as Ganondorf. In a tag game though, Eggman and Bowser would be the final boss together and probably wouldn't betray one another until things started falling apart.
>>146129959>bigger than a planetCmon Anon. If those were planets then Mario and every other enemy are the size of continents
>>146129971>Kenshiro vs. Jotaro:>"Actually, Eyes over Heaven Jotaro is way more powerful but that's non canon. Just thought that was interesting!"Planting the seeds.>Joker vs. Giorno >"Okay so Eyes over Heaven is canon, but it's actually a disadvantage in this case, so it's not wank to bring it up."Tending the fields.>Dio vs. (Insert victim)>"So remember that Eyes over Heaven thing we keep mentioning..?"Reaping the rewards.
>>146130148Who's the victim going to be?
>>146130173Castlevania Dracula. Dio will avenge the Dorf while Egmman humiliates Bowser again.
>>146128583Make a video, dammit.
>>146128743They're pretty much literal whos outside of battleboard shit. Nobody cares.
>>146130197"Death Battle's Editor Wants Kids on HRT and Stole My Money."
>>146128010>he hopes the literal BABY show will be good and keeps watchingYou? Low iq. And brown.
>>146129969think he does that in mario party
Bowser will crack eggman like an Omelette.
so, who wins between eggman and bowser? i hope it's eggman.
>>146130739i hope bowser wins vs eggman, everyone moved to the other thread though, going there now.
>>146124482Toadette and Ashley (Super Mario and Wario Ware) ohkoing Solaris and The End (Sonic the Hedgehog)Super Dimentio oneshotting Marine with his attack.
>>146130888holy based mariochad
>>146130918Loved mario party 6.
