What's the fastest you've seen a creator fuck up their meal ticket?
we get ityou want to fuck adult Gertthe writer did not like her being objectified like thattake it up with him and let it go anonlet it go...
>>146126756Literally my first thread about it. Nice to know it's a commonly held belief around here though
I cannot get my head around how this comic went past its first issue. It is so one note
>>146126765if most comic readers gave a shit about writing quality, story and narrative they would probably be reading real books instead of picture books for manchildren.
>>146126765Anything deemed better than "meh" is instantly great in comic book world
>>146126756>the writer did not like her being objectified like thatWhy did the writer even made a story where she's naked the whole time, even fantasized about getting fucked by a guy with a big dick?
>>146126756>objectifiedyes because the internet would never sexualize small childrenthey certainly would make a whole category about that and that category would not become the most viewed category on every adult comic websitesnever ever
>Skottie always gets BIG 2 work because his eye catching covers always sell well>He made an OC that is probably in pre-production for a game, animation or even a movieHe could just do covers and he'd be making more money than 90% of the industry.
Are there any public sales figures that prove your theory or are you just speculating?
>>146126762It's the fact that he offered up something slightly different, literally killed it off, and started telling the same story as before.
>>146126756>the writer did not like her being objectified like thatIs that why he did the half-assed reset? Pretty fucking lame if true.
>>146126751>What's the fastest you've seen a creator fuck up their meal ticket?I want to say High Guardian Spice holds the record, but I could be wrong.
>>146126751>What's the fastest you've seen a creator fuck up their meal ticket?not /co/ butDigibro
>>146127104That name sounds familiar but doesn't bring up any memory.
>>146126938The sentiment around Skottie killing OG gert is certainly negative on th internet but unless OP works for Image Comics there is no way he has any data. Even distributors stopped reporting figured a few years back.
They ruined DBZ forever
He waited too long to start drawing his grotesque porn
>>146127220they made it relevant again
>>146127220No, I don't think so.
>>146127236Wait, when did Scott come back?
>>146127296i think he got divorced and attempted suicide
>>146127220Pussies wouldn't finish buu saga, what asshole faggots and drop everything properly because they WERE going to go to court if they didn't.
>>146127236It wouldn't have mattered, if he drew that porn when he started waining in the 00s, everyone would have dropped him super hard. Also, his art style is super shit for porn.
>>146127385What? They dropped it cus they said they were burnt out, thought it probably wouldn't be funny or high quality enough, sick of dealing with annoying copyright the boo saga being a complete roller coaster of quality and the fact the boo saga is so fuckin long tooThey weren't going to court
>>146127412I miss TFS Gaming, especially Renegade for Life.I understand why it ended since the guys running their gaming stuff left, but still.
Joker 2
>>146127385At least they finish Hellsing
>>146126751
>>146126756>the writer did not like her being objectified like thatWhy are you making shit up? I know there are schizos on this site but fuck off.
>>146127412>and the fact the boo saga is so fuckin long tooIsn't it the same length as the Frieza and Android saga?
>>146129993Only slightly longer by about 10 chapters or so, yeah.
>>146127385Nobody likes Gotenks
>>146127104His fight with Ethan Ralph is possibly the best thing to come out from his downward spiral.
>>146127104>Becomes a pro-#MEtoo feminist after trooning out>Joins Marzgurl #Kickvic after becoming a MAPs activist>Marzgurl and kick Vic are okay with Digibro being pro-mapsPederasts gonna be the next civil rights movement after transgenderism aren’t they?
>>146130068>His fight with Ethan Ralph is possibly the best thing to come out from his downward spiral.Ethan Ralph fighting pedos becoming a regular thing. It’s almost making him likable.
>>146127436No one ever talks about how Lani is 100% to blame for that since he talked the other two into just moving forward in the Nuzlocke instead of accepting the outcome.
>>146127385Thank fucking god. I watched a few of those clips and it was everything wrong with late DBZA but worse.The basic problem is very simply: they stopped writing a comedic parody and started writing fanfiction with some comedy. Even at the end of the Cell arc they were still funny when dubbing the movies and filler stuff, because with those they just tried to be funny without caring how much sense it made.
>>146126770This. Comics have always been for children and retards.
>>146126751Tom King>>146127146I know that some people on Twitter did not like the twist but that was from a discussion of the comic when some comic book twitter user was baffled over a YouTube video calling I Hate Fairyland an "American Isekai".
>>146127255Holy revisionism, Batman!
>>146126770Why are you here? And you're implying most "real" books aren't garbage
>>146130393>>146127385>>146127220they died because they thought they were good enough to be a REAL dub, they didn't want to be known as the dbza guys, to bad no one cared about them beyond dbza. They also got huge egos and thought they kept dragonball alive
>>146126756>gore good boobs bad
>>146127220>Drop DBZA to do something more original>Nothing they do outside of DBZA goes anywhere and because the VA industry is cancerous the best they can do is side bit roles>Begrudglingly go back to DBZA but you don't want to look like you were completely folded like laundry so you instead make a mini series about Cell in Hell with the other DBZ villains going through a sort of rehabIf I can lend some sympathy to them, I get it. Being the guys who made a name for themselves abidging DBZ which created it's own subfandom with the DBZ fandom should have been an amazing jumping off point into real Voice acting careers because it ended up being all they're known forI'd hate being stuck with a job that while pays good I can never leave because there's no where else for me to go and when I do leave I have to walk back with my tail between my legs because it didn't work out and everything I do now is a cope
>>146131695Yes
>>146126751I read it in a storytime thread and I got dissapointed about that dumb turn halfway through the story. I can't imagine what it was like for someone following the comic for years. It's one of those things where you can tell the artist has no idea how to plan out a story so he justs shoots himself in the foot over and over narratively as the story drags on
>>146132732The original comic had an ending. The new series started up years later and isn't really that old, so it's not that big of a deal.
>>146132732I'm surprised people trust Skottie Young in the writer seat since alot of the stuff he wrote usually ended up as big duds. I think 'Ain't No Grave' might be better but he's notorious for fucking up endings.
>>146132775Ironic, since one thing people agree on is that the original series had a perfect ending.
>>146126751From a billion to barely over 200m
>>146132806Warner deserves it.
>>146128467explain
>>146132806>The results are a disappointing total for the sequel, which has earned just $57.8 million domestically and $143.3 million internationally.See the funny thing is the $200 million budget they spent for PRODUCTION doesn't include advertising costs so this movie still LOST money
>>146132806It's impossible for anyone to realistically top this
>>146126938Not the best evidence, but a lot of anons here admitted that they stopped buying the series because of it.
>>146126751>>146132732What was the twist?
>>146133857Christian cartoon introduces a non binary character
>>146135132A past version of Gert kills Adult Gert. The series goes back to following this new (old) child Gert trying to find a way out of Fairyland with Larry as her helper.
>>146135132The initial impetus of the new comic is Gert goes back to Fairyland after growing up. Halfway through the story a child Gert from another dimension kills the adult one and the story follows her. So now you have a protagonist that has nothing to do with the original story or even the little character development she had just walking around Fairyland like in the first comic. It's baffling
>>146135132I'm still mad, what a waste.
Earthspark ruined the entire brand in one fell swoop.
Current arc is about everyone Gert killed crawling out of hell to team up and kill her so maybe Adult Gert joins them with an awful disguise and steals her place back as the main character.
>>146135193So it's literally nothing and you're a singular sperg shitting himself like I expectedGot it lol
>>146135363>Trusting I Hate Fairyland to do an arc without subverting expectations or doing an anticlimax
>>146127220I still find it a bit fucked up that they never released any kind of tribute video to Toriyama. They ripped off the man's work for their own profit the least they could do is say thank you.
>>146135332Get a gripIf it weren't for you seething mongs letting it live rent free in your heads, nobody on this planet would even remember Earthspark happened at all
>>146126751Always interesting to me how a creator made up a whole story about how someone would get incredibly sick of the cutesy fantasy shit after a while. And then he got sick of making that comic after a while.
>>146132732I can't believe he ever had any intention of this going further than 6ish issues at the most. There is just not enough to write about. Little girl gets stuck in fairy tale universe, now we see violent little shit kill cute things a lot. It runs dry after the first issue really.
>>146135606There really is nothing else to tell. The first issue says all the story can say and there is nothing left to do but make more violent stuff happen for the laughs. It's just Superjail at that point. The way Gert kills things just needs to be more and more creative and/or weird with each new issue or else it is nothing but mindless repetition.
Avatar the Last Airbender. Nothing was good after that. Steven Universe Season 1. Was only good for a season. Samurai Jack revival was only good forn3 or 4 episodes.Uzumaki was only good one episode them went to utter shit
>>146127255It was chosen for the project because it was one of the biggest anime properties of all time and has been for decades. I mean, shit, DBZA premiered in like 2008, which was the tail end of the DBZ numetal AMV heyday.Battle of Gods and Super brought it back into mainstream discourse, which has been a negative experience all-around. That probably has a lot to do with Super being trash, but I could definitely do without a whole-ass cottage industry based around analyzing the tensile strength of Goku's ball hairs or whatever DB Youtubers are talking about now.
>>146135714>Steven Universe Season 1. Was only good for a season.I would say 2A was still serviceable, but yeah nothing come even fucking close to the hype we had in the season 1 threads.
>>146135714eh the thread is more about creators torpedoing their future prospectspretty much every example there is either well thought of (ATLA) or still continued on for a long time like SU
>>146135389How is this legal? Does Shueisha get a percentage?
>>1461267653rd post best post. I bought the first trade and thought it was fun. Then I bought the second trade, saw it was just more of the same to an absurd degree, and lost interest immediately.
>>146126765Kid Gert is cute, Adult Gert is ugly cute/ugly hot.>>146135836I would recommend you read issues 15-20, they are not the best but there is a reason fans consider the original ending perfect.>>146135816Either Fair use or "parody".
Not "fastest" but Joe Bennett getting himself kicked off of Immortal Hulk for a tranny joke was funny
>>146136420QRD?
>>146135916>I would recommend you read issues 15-20, they are not the best but there is a reason fans consider the original ending perfect.My local library has all the IHF books, where should I stop reading if I don't want to get into the controversial shit? I've been meaning to read the series.
>>146136485If you are willing to read the rest of the series, just read the rest of the original run, if you like it enough, try the first 5 issues of the revival (volume 5 in the TPBs). After that I don't recommend it, because the controversial stuff happens, and after that the series just gets terrible (at this point one of the issues is about Taylor Swift farting and anticlimactically wastes a really fun and cool idea and then has the guts to say "man, this story sucks hahaha") and becomes a rethread of the original run, but without the original art that was one of the reasons it gained a fanbase, or the overarching plot that made people root for the main character.
I still remember the leakHow do you fuck up this bad?
>>146136670What leak?
>>146136684Series cancelled with only like 5 minutes of animation that fell tonedeaf to the rest of the series since it primarily consisted of weird sex jokes relating to the protagonist
>>146135374NTA but you type like a butthurt tranny, no sane person likes trannies in their media.
>>146127220How? DBZ was shit to begin with and they breathed new life into it.
>creates a vn series that gets immensely popular, accumulates over a $100k on kickstarter to make an anime purely from good will from the first two installments>instead of capitalizing on the trend intentionally shit on your fanbase when you realize that the main demographic of your stuff isn't people in their early 30's, but teenage girlsHe could've made bank by sucking up his ego, but he's now doomed to be known for his Arthur and Batman dubs.
>>146136684The creator was going to turn the MC into a troon like himself and also most of the episode he animated before shuttering everything was some really cringe borderline porn, not even good porn
>>146135741>It was chosen for the project because it was one of the biggest anime properties of all time and has been for decades.People have forgotten that DBZA was the super group gathering of all the big Abridged series creators of the time *because* DBZ was the largest show to tackle
>>146127104I remember him being a horse reviewer, skip some years and next time I see one of his videos his avatar looks like a homeless sleep deprived Neet.Whatever happened to him?
>>146135741>That probably has a lot to do with Super being trashI'd say it's more to do with secondaries who don't actually read the manga or watch the anime, instead just watching clips
>>146128467Funniest part is they weren't even *that* successful, it was the best they ever did but still incredibly niche and they shot themselves in the foot catering to the alphabet mafia
>>146132305There are a lot of guys like that in the internet, Doug Walker comes to mind. >Makes a big event of him stop reviewing movies>His original stuff flops>Comes back to making reviews
>>146133857They introduced a shapeshifting angel who is nonbinary, on the account they inhabit multiple forms and have no distinct, permanent one. This has enraged chuds.
>>146132806I completely understand why the movie failed, but it seems to me that the fact that it failed proves that all the first movie's fans are hypocrites. I thought that what made people like the original was the super gritty realism and, cringe musical scenes aside, the second movie also delivers on that. Psychopathic revolutionary mass murderers get killed in real life. Did people actually want for the Joker to be lauded as some kind of political messiah and actually get a happy ending while he murders all of Gotham's political class? How is that gritty realism and not just a power fantasy?
>>146136768>intentionally shit on your fanbase when you realize that the main demographic of your stuff isn't people in their early 30's, but teenage girlsBased. Fuck teenage "girls"
>>146136879I think people wouldn't object to it nearly as much if it wasn't for it being some gay ass jukebox musical and Lady Gaga
>>146136879Him getting shot on stage would be fineHim getting raped in prison and quitting being the joker is notOne is a satisfying conclusion to his arc, the other is a personal attack aimed at those who enjoyed or resonated with the first movie at worst and a dumb anti-climax at best
>>146135383I gave up on the series when they basically tossed the whole rescuing the CEO's kid/colonizing fairyland plot to the side on the fucking third chapter.
>>146132732reminds me of the woodring's following up congress of the animals with fran, what a fuckup
>>146136905Isnt the point ultra gritty realism? You want to give him a sort of heroic/cathartic death. If we follow the grittiness of the first movie, what happens seems pretty plausible. Unless you want to admit that you never liked the first one for the grittiness and instead liked it because the downbeaten protagonist gets to flex on his societal oppressors.
>>146136903And the fact adverts went out of their way to hide that it was a musical. I'd feel scammed if I bought a ticket.
>>146136941>Unless you want to admit that you never liked the first one for the grittiness and instead liked it because the downbeaten protagonist gets to flex on his societal oppressors.That is legitimately why Joker made a billion dollars and why the sequel bombed, yes.
>>146127220It's been said, but I fell off after I got to around the cell saga and trunks started having EPIC COOL dialogue that wasn't even attempted comedy and it just lost a lotwhich is a shame cause the start of season 3 wasn't much different from 2 but it went downhill and I've never looked into it sinceThey drank their own koolaid and went into business for themselves
>>146135389shit like this is why i never felt that bad for them whining about getting dmca
>>146136941Nigger who the fuck every said they liked it for it's "grittiness"? As far as i'm aware you're projecting that shit. >hurrdurr you want to have the story actually make sense as a story instead of being completely arbitraryyeah, a man getting shot is so much less realistic than getting gang raped by prison guards and then stabbed in a mental asylum by someone who hates him specifically for giving up
>>146136670this one wasn't particularly fast but it's one of the most spectacular ones for how obvious the fuckup is and that it had no defenders
>>146126765It's a fairly original concept and I liked seeing a "kid" pissed off and violent
>>146136759The butthurt is (you)These histrionic fits on the internet ironically make you basically identical to the trannies that have made their home in your head
>>146136819>Whatever happened to him?well...>became a huge anime analyst youtuber>got a cult-of-personality reputation as an "outspoken eccentric thinker">people would literally pay him 15 dollars a month on patreon just to talk about whatever they asked>raking in 5000 a month just from patreon>got a girlfriend, his own house, no idea what to do with all his money except spend it on fast food and dirty bulk>somewhere down the line got entirely too high off of his own fumes (and also copious amounts of weed)>basically lost sight of why people liked him at all, started making his channel all about retarded introspective shit and his own weed-dreamed pseudopsychological ideas>let his loli lesbian fetish take him over completely and came out as trans>actively drove away his audience with worse and worse videos, including the worst "rap" music i've ever heard in my life>patreon money plummets>loses all his friends>wife leaves him for motherfucking ethan ralph>fills the void with more drugs and shitty enabling friends>pissed away all of his money, sold his entire anime/manga collection for pennies>2024 >basically homeless, living intermittently with his parents, producing basically nothing, a lethargic, hollowed out husk of his former selfits so fucking bleak man. and as a former fan of his i watched it all happen in real time. what a slow-motion trainwreck>>146136858>There are a lot of guys like that in the internetdon't i fucking know it.
>>146127220Dragon Ball was literally never good, who gives a shit what some jack offs on YouTube do with it.
>>146137720>no you are the tranny!I'm not the one excusing literal tranny shit being inserted into entertainment lol
>>146135363Wait who is talking to the dead people. please tell me it's Happy
>>146126751Middlewest also had the problem with starting out promising and turning to shit near the end.
>>146127334You don't want it, it's gay incest sex for the most part.
>>146137747>you are the trannyPretty much, the way you're screeching and shitting because you saw something you didn't like on the internetI'm not excusing anything. I don't give a shit about Angel Hare, I don't know who or what this character is, and most relevant to this thread, I doubt the actual audience gives a shit either Your clown show fits over what's probably a nothing character is what I'm mocking>>146136873I see, missed your post initially is this even a prominent character or is he howling over a nothingburger?
>>146136684I will describe it and let me be clear that there is absolutely ZERO exaggeration or hyperbole here:The leak was a montage of Connor trying to escape while initially accidentally flashing his penis to people, as the montage goes on he starts actually penetrating them and at the climax of the video he's slipping on a piece of soap and penetrating tons of people (male and female) left and right until he ends up fucking some gay guy that shows up all throughout the montage, probably some self-insert or insert of one of his friends, who knows. After the leak everyone shat on Bung for spending 5 years drawing softcore porn of his weird accidental rape fetish and he discontinued the project
>>146137825>you can't complain about trannies or you are just like them!
>>146137847I think you got the timeline mixed up, I'm pretty sure that his patreon and the series already imploded because he was dumb enough to parrot his boyfriend who made some fake allegations against another internet personality then double down when it was proven to be fabricated, then he just posted everything he had left and disappeared.
>>146137825>is this even a prominent character or is he howling over a nothingburger?From what's been shown, he's a one-off that went riding into the sunset at the end of his arc.
>>146126756>you want to fuck adult GertYou're literally gay if you wouldn't
>>146136858He has no skills at all and cannot make anything that is not pure shit.Best he can do is complain about thinks other people make.
>>146136879>Did people actually want for the Joker to be lauded as some kind of political messiah...isn't that what joker fans have been doing for years now?
>>146135714>>146135744It totally changed genres after season 1.>SU Season 1 was an adventure show with magical heroes fighting monsters in ancient temples and recovering magic artifacts. >Season 2-4 was a slice of life show mostly about Steven hanging out with the random townie of the week and talking about their problems. It was a bait and switch after more seasons were greenlit. Imagine what people might have thought if it was cancelled after season 1. People would look at it as another Maomao, awesome action show that ended before its time.
>>146136670>>146137847I mean....what in all fuck did he expect to happen after showing that off? Applause? A super secret very specific audience comes out of the woodwork to support the show? The situation would have ended the exact same because fucking nobody wants to see badly animated self insert fetish porn.
>>146127255No.
>>146136858I don't know if he fucked up as much as he just got older. Seeing some 20 something fuck around and crack jokes about old shows is fun. Seeing an aging, bald 40 something crack jokes on a decades old show for donation money is sad and makes me feel bad about things. That and he was never really talented at all, or all that funny, He just got incredibly lucky at the right time. He managed to turn fucking around on the couch and joking about movies into a living. But he had no skills, connections, or willingness to learn new talents to take that further and reach into mainstream media. So he will continue to become increasingly irrelevant every month.
>>146137756Yes, the new arc's name is Happy End Game>>146138009>But she is a hagIs that supposed to be a bad thing?
>>146136941The first one is about the rise of the joker, the second one is about the joker amounting to jack shit, what gotcha are you trying to pull here?
>>146126756>adult
>>146128467Fuck off, Gabby is pure and wholesome and doesn't hate in her heart. That should be something anyone wants to aspire to be.
>>146137858I think you will find the 4chan browser Maddie to be more of your speed.
>>146126751Der-Shing Helmer. Basically just dropped her comic and her Patreon without ever saying anything. Never even suspended her Patreon, so she's still getting hundreds of bucks from forgotten subscriptions. Just posts random shit on twatter now. It's not exactly fast, and she seems to be doing well, but her comic used to be big. I've still seen people recommend it relatively recently. It won awards. She could have been a success story instead of a footnote.
>>146135332no it didn't because Earthspark is irrelevant, the comics are still good
>>146136879>cringe musical scenes asideBut that's every other goddamn scene how can you take half the movie aside
>>146126751Name a creator that DIDN'T "fuck up their meal ticket"?
>>146127255Ruination and relevance aren't mutually exclusive, in fact they often go together
>>146132806I wonder how long do we have before people start praising it for pissing off fans
>>146137825>>146137858Jesus Christ, fuck off you faggots go slap dicks elsewhere
>>146135223>>146135279>>146135328As far as I'm concerned, there's only the first series and absolutely nothing else.
>>146132305>>146136858Honestly the ticket seems to be gradually phasing out the old thing while denying that you're doing it
>>146137740Honestly, I could see the same thing happening to me
>>146136917Was it the third? I could have sworn it took until the sixth, when she actually gets back to Fairyland, to throw that plot away. Which was the beginning of the end.And I get that the original Fairyland was entirely just anti-climax after anti-climax, that was the joke, but it still feels like a waste to watch the new series stumble past a dozen interesting plotlines just to return to hyperfocusing on anti-climaxes. Like, I can't FUCKING believe that we had Gert mentoring a kid through Fairyland and the entire thing is two pages. What was Skottie thinking? Is he a hack, or is he just afraid that he can't write a genuine story and thus defaults to always throwing out an anti-climax?
>>146140585I smell /ss/ potential between these two.
>>146138120tbf that makes sense to me. SU was an American version of Tenchi but oriented more for girls/women, it's name is even derived from Tenchi Universe. Even as a guy my favorite episodes of Tenchi were the ones where it was just the girls hanging around getting on each other's nerves and I liked the ones where Tenchi fought a big bad alien the least. Of course Sugar would make the show more about what she liked the most (character interactions) instead of what she liked the least (fights) once its position was secured.
>>146141251What you smell is Gertrude.
>>146140585It was the fifth since, at the end of that issue, Zuckerberg told Gert the plan was canceled.
>>146141361And I want more
>>146132305>>146136858>>146140439hiimdaisy is probably the only person who did this and flat out refused to ever go back to what made them famous. changing their name, nuking their previous work and basically starting from zero again with cucumber quest only to effectively peace out on that for similar insecurities and start doing VNs.the real tragic part is that she ultimately could've had a career like tyson hesse if she just leaned into the persona & metal gear parody comics.>>146127385i don't blame them. the buu saga was a shit arc with the only good things about it being gohan's super hero shenanigans and hercule's character arc.>SS3 & fusions despite their hype never win any fights and only really exist to sell toys.>takes gohan entire character arc that they spent the entirety of Z building up and throws out the window.>buu stops being an interesting villain when he becomes super buu and later kid buu.>beginning of the series being the goku & vegeta variety hour by having the Z fighters spend the entirety of the saga sitting on their asses at the lookout with their thumbs up said asses.
>>146136768No fuckjng way he's that dumb I need proof. He shat on the people who want him to continue doing dubs and refuses to even upload them to yt anymore.Only thing he did that he didn't shit on was that courses he was doing on how to not be shut at producing lighting and voice quality
>>146140585>>146141251>>146141606Requesting https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/co/image/1521/02/1521027395259.jpg but with Revival Gert and Thomas
I like the original run of IHF, myself. Is it one note? Maybe. But I dunno, I thought it was fun and gorgeous.
>>146126751Skottie young sucks a bag of dicks. Hack bullshit.
>>146140585>Is he a hack, or is he just afraid that he can't write a genuine story and thus defaults to always throwing out an anti-climax?I thought Middlewest's story was pretty good. Maybe because I could relate.
>>146141861you can blame editors for most of the crap in the buu saga. they wanted Goku to win in the end, so they had to keep transforming Buu to more fit the current "will save the day" character.
>>146135279>That spoilerI didn't even read IHF and that sounds frustrating and annoying.
>>146140046wait that's what happened? I had been trying to re-find The Meek for a couple years now to finish up old shit I had forgotten about. It seems like burning out and just leaving your cool moneymaker to rot is the 2000's webcomic way I suppose
>>146143162What makes it worse is that the revival was promoted as "Adult Gert returns to Fairyland," and then they throw all of that in the garbage in a way that does not work for IHF either as a comedy or if you care about the story.It tells you a lot that Skottie stopped doing covers for the revival after Revival issue #5 (Aside from a TWD 20th anniversary cover variant and the cover for Happy End Game part one).
>>146140216Tim Buckley
>>146126765I can see why he'd want to go for another issue or two but I have no clue why it didn't just wrap up after she fried the queen. Felt like it would have wrapped everything up well with her eternally trapped in Fairyland but now as queen and with dark destroyer powers. And leave it up to the reader what kind of shit show she turns her life and the place into.
>>146126874Are you talking about Gert or is there something else he's got going on? Didn't think she would be big enough for anything like a game or the like.
>>146130142That shit ain't gonna fly. They try anything, then shit's going down for real.
>>146130142>Marzgurl and kick Vic are okay with Digibro being pro-mapsAnd that right there should tell you why they're the bad guys. How'd the dipshits supporting them take it?
>>146132305Only shit pay with VA work. Especially gor anime. The fuck'd they expect?
>>146132305Why can't these assholes embrace the New Media? They always want to work with Hollywood and shit. Just be part of the same old shit from before, rather than create and embrace something new.
>>146142918Toriyama's the one who wanted Goku to win. He's the reason why Gohan got sidelined, because he couldn't figure how to write Gohan as a protag. Toriyama's always been hard carried by his editors. They're the reason why Drgaon Ball became action focused in the first place. Toriyama's always been more of a gag guy.
>>146141861>changing their name, nuking their previous work and basically starting from zero again with cucumber quest only to effectively peace out on that for similar insecurities and start doing VNsWhy the fuck?
>>146137742Only dweeby fucks think this. Hit the gym, loser.
>>146144755lol
>>146144723hiimdaisy's story is basically the story of how one person can run away from themselves for so long (which is kinda ironic given that persona, specifically P4's driving theme is accepting one's self no matter how much it embarasses you and/or makes you uncomfortable). she's likely going to run away from these VN projects the same way she ran away from her parody comics & cucumber quest.the worst part is that even if she came back to doing her old comics again it won't be the same because she has so much contempt for those games now.
>>146144667hollywood pays better + "muh connections" even though pretty much everyone @ funimation apparently hated them.
>>146140216james rolfe. say what you want about current AVGN and/or him being too hands off with cinemassacre but he's never shot himself in the foot with stupid bullshit like doug walker or TFS.
>>146128363With how bad the last two episodes were, it'd have been better if they didn't.
>>146138087Anyone who says something like that unironically, should kill themselves.
>>146136879>>146136941You invented a premise and then act like people are hypocrites for not following your premise.
>>146135714i still say that the people who were dissapointed by the SJ revival either wanted an animated version of the IDW comics or were expecting it to be like berserk.
>>146140216Patrick "theprofesional".
>>146135279>>146135223I wanted adult Gert to fuck Cloudia.
>>146145090>she has so much contempt for those games nowWhy?
>>146136905Him dying a martyr would've saved it.
>>146144705no, Toriyama wanted to sideline Goku in favor of Gohan, but the fans only wanted Goku so the editors told him to mess around and make Goku win the game.
>>146135332No one cares about Earthspark. Actual boys were busy playing video games and watching YouTube to give a rats ass about it.
>>146145872That's a myth. The fans liked Gohan, but Toriyama didn't. A protag like Gohan's too alien to him. Goku's more his speed so he went back to him.
>>146136793>>146137026>>146137847This doesn't sound real with how crazy it is. Do any of you have a link so I can see this thing?
>>146127220FF7A was not worth losing out on the Buu Saga
>>146126751He fucked up right off the bat by not drawing itand he double fucked up by not keeping adult gert
>>146146030Did he have a movie or show deal? Was it all for synergy?
>>146145505And you'd still be wrong because people have gone over and over they just wanted the plot threads from the series to actually have been developed instead of just thrown out for the shitty Jack and Ashe love story.
>>146127220Speaking of Abridged channels that fucked up, these guys made it big by making what was essentially an SAO fixfic that everyone preferred over the original. But they were still a small team of underfunded jagoffs and they got it into their heads to ruin their already shaky and inconsistent schedule by trying to do My Hero Academia Abridged. Without fixing their release schedule, this basically plunged them into irrelevancy.
>>146142481i shit you not there's over an hour thirty of footfag shit in the third gametwo out of six endings involve footfaggotry, fully voiced, for some asinine reason
>>146145662Based theprofessional enjoyer.>>146146044I think he did some shoes.
>>146140458good, you at least know to avoid it. let his mistakes serve as an example of what not to do
>>146146184Why? They still had plenty of SAO content to adapt.
>>146145837This anon is overblowing it, she still loves those game but basicaly views her old art as geek meme art of things she long moved past and not representative of her current skills and she rather be know for her orginal art then being that "persona,mgs,amd insert other video game" fan artist.
>>146146528>basicaly views her old art as geek meme art of things she long moved past and not representative of her current skillsBut why delete it all?>she rather be know for her orginal art then being that "persona,mgs,amd insert other video game" fan artist.Then why delete that too?
>>146146597She's a try hard artists for sure, but saying she deleted it beacuse she hated the games was unture, she doesn't like her OWN art. And Cucumber Quest site is still available to read.
>>146136858Doug Walker seems to have come to terms with that and every other month people see a good take his makes in regards to animation and he gets a weeks worth of respect before people forget again>>146140439That's what people should be doing but they treat their old work like a bad drug habit and try to quit it cold turket out of the blue, it causes problems because no one was expecting that and they never managed to grow a new fandom from the new stuff they want to make
>>146126756>>146141606So are you saying this is some kinda Neurotically Yours type situation where the author goes out of their way to objectify and show their fully adult characters naked for the purpose of getting viewers horny, then getting mad when viewers are horny? Am I tracking this right?
>>146131695I'll never understand that sentiment.
>>146147184American puritanism
>>146147155That is about the gist of it.
>>146147411Is there any actual source for this or is it just a guess? Because I remember the story being reset right as there were a bunch of ads for new IHF media coming out which would be a much more like reason to reset to a status quo that can be milked indefinitely
>>146127255It's their golden goose after all
>>146145996https://youtu.be/eP4RdhPhvo0
>>146146298>>146146184They are still doing Sao and imo it's still pretty good.
>>146136858Nah it's a very different situation there. TFS is a group of legitimately talented people whose decisions and long term success on YouTube ended impacting thier future prospects and attitudes. Meanwhile Doug is an incredibly average man who was incredibly lucky but whose dreams and aspirations are just incompatible with reality. Leaving him stuck in a situation he wasn't smart enough to properly appreciate, manage, or move on from when he had the chance. Really the story of the nostalgia critic really is pretty depressing when you look at it from Doug's perspective .
>>146147286>>146147184It's christian morality. Unfortunately you're a pagan heathen who can only understand sensuality, which is why you barely qualify as human.
>>146136768I was going to post this guy. The VNs he made weren't that good and were not-so-secretly his own version of CWCville but he could've easily milked them into something like DDLC and not have to work again. The fact that this isn't even the first time the tard burned everything down because the "wrong people" (read: anyone who isn't an irony poisoned self-hating autist who larps as a black guy to hide his mountains worth of self-loathing) got enjoyment out of it. Fatty might genuinely be the most pathetic a-log type to exist.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGdVqtmV5YIThis was the dev of class of 09 twelve years ago.
>>146126751read the original but haven't checked out the new one yet, qrd?
>>146126756>the writer did not like her being objectified like thatQueen Cloudia had a nice rack throughout the story yet nobody complained then.
>>146149616>>146135223>>146135279>>146135328TLDR:The revival was promoted by Skottie Young and Image comics as a sequel to the original series only to become a mediocre rethread of the original series in the worst way possible.
>>146126770The only "real book" you've ever read is playgirl magazine
>>146126765IHF is definitely one of those comics where it's a one trick pony.>get gert home>kill a guy here, say fluff there>gert almost goes home but OOPS! Something totally bad happens and she doesn't!Adult Gert was nice, but the story should've ended a while ago desu.
>>146138087man that screenshot went the opposite direction from what I was expecting.I was thinking it would say something like>Artists are natural creators. They're always creating, swinging from one project to the next. Living in their element. >To an artist, a work is immaterial and fleeting. It's a passing joy to put your skills into. Critics instead focus on a singular thing and obsess over it. Pick it apart and put it back together and learn from it but never really do anything with this knowledge because they cannot create themselves.
>>146135389>people actually buy theseHo Lee Fuk
>>146132806Joker went from based loner incel to cringe simp loser.
>>146136879>Did people actually want for the Joker to be lauded as some kind of political messiah and actually get a happy ending while he murders all of Gotham's political class?Yes?
>>146140216Edmund McMillen.Although, Repentance was a close one. Had they kept Angel Deals the same as they were in Rebirth and nerfed Devil Deals I wouldn't even consider buying the DLC.
>>146144723Some people are just fucking weird like that. There's about a dozen or so artists I (try) to follow who will, every couple of years, have a fucking episode or a mental fucking breakdown, purge all their shit, and start fresh under a new name (but with unmistakably the same aesthetic).Nobody ever accused artists of being mentally stable.
>>146137740I remember his video about slowly downloading and watching AMV Hell 3 with his brother and I was comforted to know that someone else besides me had that memory.
>>146148128what the incredible fuck is this
>>146148128Guy that asked for the leak here, can't see the video because I'm not bothering on logging to my YouTube account to watch it, but if it had to be age restricted I am gonna assume its something really bad.
>>146140216Valsalia, the man is basically a unicorn when it comes to webcomic creators
>>146146050the version of what you wanted in your head isn't factual anon. at the end of the day the only difference between the original seasons and the revival was that jack didn't dick around for X number of episodes in the revival.>>146146528>>146146653it's not overblowing it if she's actually said that she doesn't care about those games anymore.
>>146150224at least his voice is cute.
>>146136768I wish he went back to movie reviews. I really enjoyed his one on Harry Potter and his Spirited Away one was good too.First two mixtapes are solid as well and have some excellent lyrics. Didn't care for the third one though.
>>146141251Do NOT ship the polite, quiet Catholic kid just trying to get home with the genocidal, sociopath, stinky hag!>>146135363Who cares? Even if adult Gert comes back, what have we gained? We've just wasted however many chapters on absolutely nothing. Fucking, Duncan just WALKED AWAY! They brought him back just to have him go 'oh, I guess we're actually not doing anything' and then leave.
>>146149641Queen Cloudia was already an adult character. Not really the same issue.
>>146149989>>146148128>>146150018>>146145996>>146137847>>146138155>>146137928>>146136670>>146137026drives me crazy how people have completed forgotten the trailer to Ep8 he posted 4 years prior that has scenes that aren't in the "leak" like a fight scene with a big fat guy and a not079 doin surgery>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n86Qw3Q_tKgHe made the "leak" last minute as a way to psychicly flashbang everyone so stunned there isn't a consensus on what to do next like mass reaching out to him
>>146140216Alan becker took a simple animated story about a stick figure fighting a mouse cursor and gave himself a successful series with millions of fans, each video getting millions of views. It feels like I live in the timeline where becker made a wish with the genie to be a successful animator and it wasn't a monkey's paw wish. As far as I am concerned he won the indie animation scene.Also Krinkles, his fans will happily wait a decade for an episode.
>>146145872There's a lot of rumors but honestly it's not that in-depth. Dragon Ball didn't run for very long, all things considered. For example it took only about 4 years for the story to progress from issue one where 6-8 year old Goku meets Bulma for the first time to married adult and father Goku getting killed by Raditz and finding out he's an alien. The manga moved at a breakneck speed and while he planned to switch protagonists to Gohan to keep things interesting after a couple of issues he decided he just wasn't into it so he brought Goku back as the main character.
>>146146044Quite dumb, people are more likely to embrace something that seems like a complete story that actually goes somewhere. Take for example kid Goku merch still selling like hotcakes while Goku was an adult in story. Unfortunately the U.S. is a slave to advertising executives that have no idea what they're talking about.
>>146151272>6-8 year old GokuHe was 14.
>>146148128oh wow i had seen a shorter version of the leak then because this is even worse
>>146146669Smh. I get how they could think that but if you sit down and think about it for just a few minutes it only makes sense to do it the other way. People don't like unexpected change and resent something they like getting taken away. Making a clean break will just leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth and make them resistant to your new project, whereas starting a side project will cause people to gradually check it out and feel like "real fans" because they consume all of your material and not just the "mainstream" stuff. Eventually they'll start to like it and you'll get a large enough fanbase that you can start to focus on that instead. A few people will know what you're doing and start to throw a fit but if you keep saying "No, I'm committed to both but some B.S. about behind the scenes stuff. Don't worry everyone it's not going anywhere!" And eventually you're releases can get fewer and farther between until effectively you can just unceremoniously stop releasing the first thing. And if for some reason you're new project doesn't work out you can just switch back and have the cover story of "I was always doing both! The new thing was just unexpectedly more work than anticipated so I'll be taking a step back from that for now to focus on bringing you guys the content you deserve!" And all the while you get to maintain two sources of income. It's really a no brainer.
>>146147155Wtf happened? Lol I haven't watched this shit since like 2007.
>>146150018Why would you do that? You're not me, I just googled it after asking and saw it already so I left the thread and did other shit all day. Were you hoping for a play by play? Because of so it was already posted
>>146146184>10 years>only on ep 17holy fuck
>>146151289Ok, it looks like he was 12 in the first issue
>>146127220I thought it was fun. Haven't really followed anything the channel has done since, but I think abridged series in general were an enjoyable part of internet humor back when the internet made me less sad than it does now.
>>146140046i miss that one. but still she finished a couple of comics after that didn’t she?
>>146148128Holy fuck LMAO at the zesty black guys
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>>146126756Holy based.
>>146149859This happens a lot with artists that draw risqué or fetish stuffBut even more tame artists do this too I've seen.Crazy how the ability to draw nice directly damages your brain it seems
>>146126765Same reason you continue to post yet are the same
>>146152169>Crazy how the ability to draw nice directly damages your brain it seemsi think it's the other way around, you need to be mentally unstable in some way to be creative
>>146151366He was 14, then later retconned to be 12. He was retconned back to being 14 decades later because Toriyama forgot about the first retcon.
>>146132806>I made the movie bad on purpose to own the chuds!
>>146144705Toriyama wanted goku to die for good multiple times
>>146127220They really didn't You just grew up
>>146133857Started of kind of spooky with questions about the real nature of the angel and the murder she helped the main character commit. Now everything is just about waifuing the rabbit with quirky bazinga jokes and there is no mystery.
>>146153928>quirky bazinga jokesI've yet to see one. The show is still subdued and moody.
>>146153928Don't forget about them adding LGBT shit into a Christian series
>>146152169>Crazy how the ability to draw nice directly damages your brain it seemsYears ago on LJ I speculated that the ability to draw better cannibalizes parts of your brain used for common sense. Which I thought was a funny idea but this neuroscience phD guy who was following me chimed in with "Hmm maybe"Stopped drawing pretty much since...