Originally this was to be drawn by Tim Sale, but he died so now it is a tribute to him. I'm just happy to be reading Jeph Loeb again.
>>146153606>I'm just happy to be reading Jeph Loeb again.You are?
>>146153649Yes, he's my favorite comic writer.
>>146153662Fair enough desuI respect him now for having Catwoman come onto Robin in this page
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>>146153606>I'm just happy to be reading Jeph Loeb againStrangely enough, so I Am. His mind seems to be healed since the horrible, horrible stuff he churned out at Marvel in the mid-to-late 2000s.
>>146153730Oh hey it's The French Connection
I hope this thread is still up tonight because I won't have time to read it before then.
>>146153606>I'm just happy to be reading Jeph Loeb again.what the actual fuck
Book bad.
>>146153606>happy to be reading jeph loebWhat a depressing existence, op. Praying for you.
>>146154596>>146154811Hush/TLH has been a perennial reprint for 20+ years now, and the 10 year olds who got it at a book store and thought it was the coolest shit ever are posting here now.
>>146153606There was already The Long Halloween 2. It is called Dark Victory. Also, I liked the Legends of the Dark Knight Halloween specials and they stopped doing them after TLH.
>>146153630This art is fucking awful
>>146153649When it comes to DC he’s a better writer than 90 percent of the people who ever wrote for the company. I’m so sick of hulkfags and the six novafags that exist seething about him.
>>146153633Why is robin wearing pants and long sleeves?
>>146153714>>146153723>>146153730>>146153739>>146153749>>146153756The shitty fake halftones here look fucking awful. Why didn’t they just have a single artist work on this? Why did they need to rush it after two decades? It looks horrible. Risso’s issue wasn’t perfect but it was so much better than this dogshit.
>>146153974You mean when his son passed away?
>>146155489Dave Stewart is a plague.
>>146155524I’m a big loeb fan, easily my favorite writer when it comes to dc work, and I very much hate that “people” (read: marvelfags) retroactively seethe about him and say everything he wrote is bad because of his marvel work but that’s not an excuse. Editors and publishers should know when to pull someone off a book. Here are pre-established characters and titles, they’re not therapy sessions. Someone should tell Tom king as well.
>>146155939Nah most of the problem here is janson. Stewart’s work has been fantastic in plenty of projects across the years. You must be thinking of Sinclair.
>>146155489>Why didn’t they just have a single artist work on this?Agreed. And the worst part is being sold that it’s a feature not a bug.
>>146155939The half tones are already present in the inked pages from what we see >>146153796
>>146153756This looks a shitty fan-made webcomic
>>146155489Using multiple big name artists is Loeb’s go-to for cashing in on deaths. Remember the Batman/Superman issue his son co-wrote? Janson’s not really a big name but he’s got a big legacy through DKR
>>146153606Does this take place in the pre-flashpoint continuity? I know, I know "who the fuck cares?"
>>146156634I’ve been reading comics for 30 years anon and nothing you said is either news to me or has anything to do with what I said.
>>146157128You asked why and I gave you the answer. Was it rhetorical? This was clearly a cash-in from the first solicit
>>146157017It takes place in The Long Halloween continuity which is vaguely the same as year one but not the same as the Millerverse
>>146157207Yes it was obviously rhetorical you faggot fuck. They rushed it because their sales are in the tank, they got “big name” artists because after Tim died they knew they blew any chance of this being a big hit. You’re ignoring the context of what I said to pedantically try answering obvious questions instead of saying “yeah it’s retarded they should have stuck with one artist” for some reason. Probably autism.
>>146155939Yes, Dave Stewart is famous for his use of halftones.
>Long Halloween was about gangsters getting killed>Dark Victory was about cops getting killed>Last Halloween is about all the rogues getting shot with a .22 bullet but not outright killed since they can't actually die>>146153649Loeb's pretty dumb but he writes a better Batman than Snyder, King, Tynion, and Zdarsky.
>>146157348>Loeb's pretty dumb but he writes a better Batman than Snyder, King, Tynion, and Zdarsky.Amen
>>146157287Nah I just thought it was amusing. The Sam Loeb issue 20 years ago was one of my first realizations of how shameless the guy was
>>146153606>so now it is a tribute to himthanks anon.
>>146157503Feels like you’re just a baiting faggot. While I don’t think using his kid as a shelf for criticism of his marvel work is acceptable the issue written by his son is pretty beautiful.
>>146158466Shield for criticism*
>>146156634You're fucking retarded. That was a tribute to a co-worker. They broke exclusive contracts just to make that.>>146155952Loeb's Marvel work is some of my favorite. I read Spider-Man: Blue every Valentine's Day.
>>146159428>Loeb's Marvel work is some of my favorite. I read Spider-Man: Blue every Valentine's Day.This isn’t what people are referencing when they mention his marvel work. They’re talking about hulk and nova.
>>146159626What? Nova was good. It and Ms Marvel were pretty much the only two books of that era that worked.
>>146159691It’s not my favorite, nor do I hate it, but Sam pissed a lot of Dick Riders off.
>>146158466You're weirdly aggressive about this. I'm about to head to a halloween party so I doubt I'll post in this thread again.I'll simply agree with you and say, yes, they should've gone with one artist since that's apparently what you wanted to hear.Maybe Matt Wagner, Doc Shaner, or Chris Samnee. It's honestly hard to find an artist who really has Sale's qualities though. Some artists have similar styles in regard to proportions but not the rendering, some have the rendering but not the proportions.
>>146160105Yeah, I never understood that. Its not like it was shitting on Richard, it just wasn't using him.
>>146155407Still better than tumblr webcomic garbage.
>>146161208$5 book made by 72 year old veteran artist is better than free art done by hobbyists in their 20sHigh standards here.
>>146160948It’s not about the specific artist but it’s about having a single artist. Sale and Loeb had 30+ issues in this. The idea that the finale has 10 different artists is just insane to me. It’s a sales gimmick not a storytelling driven decision at that point and calling it a celebration or honor is just disgusting to me.
>>146161208No it really isn’t. 80s janson was, 2020s janson? Wouldn’t get hired if he was using a pseudonym
>>146161654objectively false
I expected this art to be so much worse from /co/'s bitching but it's fine.
>>146161784>o-o-o-objectively!Lol sure thing faggot you’re the singular arbiter of quality.
>>146161816>>146161784Why samefag?
>>146161832you don't seem to understand what that means
>>146162085No, it’s pretty clear you tried to do a non-direct reply as if you just came into the thread.
>>146162249you are either retarded or a bot because your posts don't seem to even relate to the things you're replying to
>>146162749>>146162085>>146161816>>146161784I accept your concession
>>146153615>>146153624These two pages look great then>>146153630>>146153668It goes right off a cliffHaving seen his recent work in Tynion’s Blue Book I knew he’d severely degraded but this is pretty rough. I’m really not looking forward to Sink’s issue at all for the same reason. Idk why they turned this series into Old Timer’s day at Yankee stadium.
>>146162844same bot-like response
>>146155426I hate him because as the head of Marvel TV, he cancelled Earth's Mightiest Heroes to replace it with a new MCU Avengers synergy show. I was a newfag back when that happened so many years ago and everyone shat on him.
Amedeo, I mean Arianna, melting down in any thread about this comic is classic lol. You loopy man in a dress lol
>>146163420>I’m impressionable and don’t actually read comics.
>>146153630Why did Robin’s head turn into a soda can in the third panel? look at his fucking foot too. Holy shit lol
>>146153668>>146153674>>146153678>Let’s just put dots everywhere to hide how bad it isYikes, deodato did this shit on his flash and it was grotesque there too. Sad to see janson has not only gotten so lackluster but so self conscious too. Waste of an issue. And to think there are only ten. Well, maybe that’s a good thing if this is to be the quality of them.
Jeph Loeb is a megahack and his biggest success, The Long Halloween, was plagiarized from a story called "Eye of the Beholder" from Batman Annual #14 written by Andrew Helfer. Every story he's done since has been a retread and progressively worse. Only casuals who don't know this and just googled "Top 10 Batman stories" like The Long Halloween and Loeb's other shit.
>>146164550Ah sweet it’s pasta time! Kill yourself
>>146164176Poor old man is still drawing like digital doesn't exist. These sort of shortcuts flew when comics size was the only way normies would see this stuff, now it just becomes meme material
>>146164668I actually think it’s a mix because those shitty dots look like a poorly employed half-tone in procreate or some other program.
>>146153606Nice cover. How much random Tim Sale art did they have lying around?
>>146164654No, I won't, casual faggot. But you should for having such shit taste in comics.
>>146163121>These two pages look greatI don't get this. Why do the first two pages look better than the rest?
Story is decent. Art is mediocre and not actually bad. /co/ doesn't read or like comics. They just want to shitpost about them. It's like /v/ with meme'ing on every failed game and actually being disappointed when a game doesn't bomb.
>>146163711Oh, I wish Loeb never stopped writing comics. Apparently It would have been a win-win for you and me
>>146164550It plagiarized The Godfather as well. But The Long Halloween had a lot of great moody art and moody narration and Batman fights his popular rogues one by one every month which is why the story works.
Thanks, OP.
>>146165393Idk but it’s an immediate nosedive the first time we see Batman>>146165476>Art is mediocre and not actually badYou just have low expectations. This shit is horrible.
