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Scenes for Season 2 dropped today and Alastor proves to be more of an embarrassment than we thought.

https://hazbinhelluvageneral.com/s2/s2leaks
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Jack the Ripper autist from the last thread. Just realized why his use here bothered me so much.
Aside from the idea of using the long debunked idea that the Ripper was from the upper class despite pretty much all evidence saying he had to be someone who actually lived on the East End, it's the fact that
>One of Pentious's clients
>Pentious designed weapons and was an inventor
>Jack just used a fucking knife
The fuck would he need Pentius's services for?
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>>146231758
>Victorian era factory owner
>More than likely employed children for cheap labor
>Also works an arms dealer
>What gets him sent to Hell is associating with Jack the Ripper
They're gonna scrub over Angel doing a ton of bad shit with the mob and what got him to Hell was him being a drug addict, aren't they?
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>>146231715
>Heaven doesn't give a shit about Adam or all those exorcists being dead

>Not even a fucking warning towards Hell to not try that again

>The Hotel staff avoid consequences again

I'm actively rooting for Lute. I want her to beat the shit out of Charlie and Vaggie so bad.
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>All that happiness in Season 1 only to reveal Rosie and Alastor hate each other and Rosie has Alastor's soul

What was Viv thinking?
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At the very least that lute song sounds good, so what's the QRD?
>Alastor is the cannibal lady's bitch
>God (?) agrees with the idea of sinners redeeming themselves
>Charlie (?) will fight heaven
>Lute is looking for some payback
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>>146231784
Hey, lets just be happy that she's going to get the best song of Season 2 https://files.catbox.moe/ae95es.mp3 and that Adam's dead ghostly ass gets at least one final song looking into the framing and the ending with Abel, it seems to be a take on "hellfire" also the beat is VERY Imagine Dragons inspired
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>"I'm retarded?"
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>>146231784
People are saying she's going to kill Lucifer, so we've got plenty to root for.
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I wanna bust a nut in Lute's psycho womb so hard it jostles her brains and makes her retarded for a week.
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>>146231779
My guess is they're gonna keep him a mafia child while distancing him from his dad's actual mafia activities.
We even talked about it near the end of the last thread. Even if Pentius did identify Jack, a huge part of the case is back then there was no way to get the evidence to stick and misinformation flew left and right in the panic.
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>>146231845
Adam...
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>>146231845
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>Alastor gets raped by Vox
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I know with my luck that the whole season will leak once I leave this site for a couple hours
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>>146231837
The song mentions ...save her, and mention an "eye for an eye" etc. She's talking about Vaggie obviously
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>>146231826
If a bunch of Season 2 scenes have to be edited due to the leaks, Vivziepop and Amazon need to leave Lute's song alone. Unironically better than Hell Is Forever.
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>>146231867
oh yeah agreed, getting those big ass Broadway singers to sing costs a huge chunk of the budget, they may edit some scenes or do away with others, but scrapping an entire song would ruin them.
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>>146231863
not now amazon is threatening leakers with a $1 million lawsuit
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>>146231784
>Exorcist Angels are made from Michael’s feathers
>He’d perform the Exterminations himself, but he’s been busy fighting Roo, rarely spends much time in Heaven
>Returns to Heaven because Roo has vanished from the rest of Creation, and concerned about defending Heaven
>Lute goes and complains to her dad about what went down
>Michael gathers his daughters, and goes down to Hell to beat the the shit out of his brother
>All while singing https://youtu.be/WOgxiS33tME
Would be kino. I’d animatic it myself but I’m too lazy.
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>>146231865
I meant that according to a chat, there's a storyboard where Lute kills Lucifer. But yes, in the song, she alludes that Adam was to her what Charlie is to Vaggie.
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>>146231715
I’m really starting to come around to that Rosie = Lilith in disguise “leak” from a long time ago turning out to be true after all. It explains why she’s so OP.
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here's abels tomb
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helluva gods win again
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>>146231890
Kino as fuck, but you just know he'll lose somehow
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>>146231784
It goes to show that Hazbin is a veeeeerrryyyy surface level series, no rhyme or reason or any sort of deeper thought has been put into it. It’s shocking how amateur Hazbin’s show runner still is- she hasn’t improved her craft or her taste since she was a teenager; the show is no more than glorified brand. It probably would’ve done much better as a Sanrio style marketing company rather than trying to pretend it has any substance
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>>146231896
there's a fair bit of "meme leaks" going on now that the real leaks were confirmed, best take everything with a grain of salt
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>>146231784
I want her to nuke Hell.
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>>146231896
I guess I could see it? Lucifer is too much of an instawin for Team Hell otherwise. People will be pissed though, he might be the most popular character after Alastor.
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>>146231916
Honestly yeah, i just care abouut the character designs and some songs, the show is esentially a kids show with swearing and gore, still a guilty pleasure tho
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>>146231779
Worse, they will make the main reason for angel dust to ascend (beyond getting his soul fully back) is because he believed in himself.
But that will only have in the final episode of the final season
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>>146231916
lel the amount of SEETHING, COPING, and DILATING from some fucks is intoxicating!
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>>146231826
>>146231931
>"The Princess has to pay, for what she did that day, for what she took away"
>"You think you're Hells' great savior, will you still be when I return the favor?"
>"Take the one you need, make you watch them bleed, will you break thinkin' how you couldn't save her?"
>"Wishin' you were there when they needed you, the only soul whose ever completed you, maybe then you'll get a little heated too, and understand why this is what I need to do?"
What's actually going to happen? Is it:
>Lute kills Lucifer like the leakers said
>Lute unintentionally kills Lucifer who sacrifices himself to save Vaggie/Charlie
>Lute kills Vaggie
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>>146231890
>You will never see an official scene where a top angel wipes out a Hell city in Hazbin/Helluva with one fell swoop

Sad. Also BASED Epic The Musical mention
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>>146231822

I don’t think he necessarily hates her, he just resents their deal. He might like her otherwise.
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>>146231931
The writing is headed into the direction that Charlie will become the Queen of Hell aka. "The Devil" and that her hotel will be the door to redemption
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>>146231931
>Lilith easily caps Lucifer's power through manipulation
>He becomes an easy target for Lute
Also he deserves it.
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>>146231715
>Adam always hated Abel
>Abel is surprisingly chill that his fucking dad is gone
I just... why? why the fuck is this the go to for Viv? I get not everything has to be biblically accurate but this is the most basic thing you can do. His whole fucking deal is that he was the first murder victim that was the favorite son. Would it kill her to follow scripture a bit? Give the source material a bit of respect? And then this means that Cain is somewhere. Fanon Cain and Abel has more potential than this. This right here:

https://youtu.be/Ix9l_Y36mKQ

gives more respect to the lore of Cain and Abel than what we got. It's 100 percent possible to make a good story that follows the Bible, why couldn't anyone else make this show??
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>>146231957
Why?
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>>146231937
If we're being realistic, Hazbin likely has another two, maybe three seasons depending on:

>whether or not Vivzie's physical health doesn't get worse (she hates moving, doesn't eat healthy, and keeps gaining weight - being a showrunner is very taxing in this day and age)
>whether or not Vivzie doesn't tank her public reputation with general audiences (say it turns out there's suddenly explicit proof she's a bigot, or that it's broadcasted everywhere about the shitty working conditions and she can't hide it anymore, or that she gets the Spider-Man Lotus treatment of scorned friends/employees exposing her)
>whether or not another show doesn't steal Hazbin's thunder
>whether or not Hazbin continues to have a decent budget
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>>146231982
>Quite literally does the worst thing to humanity ever and refuses to take responsibility for it
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Given how popular Lucifer has become I can see that just pissing a LOT of people off. Though they do honestly need to get rid of him or there will be like no real threat power wise. Still him getting taken out by a exorcist blade even if he is not fighting back is stupid as shit. He is supposed to be the most powerful being in Hell and he gets shived by a low tier angelic weapon lame.
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viv couldn't think of something that could strengthen charlie up to make tough and serious decisions so daddy has to die
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>>146231951
God why couldn’t this show have gotten a bunch of seasons instead, FUCK YOU CN
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>>146231937
It's already been picked up for four at least, God knows what would even happen in the fourth or beyond given what's already happening by Season 2.
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Lucifer is the cosmic equivalent of a nigger.
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>>146232006
>People with shit taste get mad
And nothing of value is lost.
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>>146232019
4 fucking seasons and they'll go to war with heaven in the second one? i genuinely can't believe you, i'm not calling you a liar, but because as dumb as Viv is, even she could tell it is a bad idea
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>>146231916
Honestly, all Viv needs to do to improve her writing is read more quality books. Anyone who's shown progress in improving as a writer can tell you that half the work is reading, and the other half is writing just to get your stories out there.

But Viv doesn't read. And if she does, she reads yaoi fanfiction.
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>>146231937
>>146231999
4 seasons and more if it does well. Vox Machina got a fifth season renewal at a tenth of Hazbin’s fame. Unlike every other streaming site, Amazon wants long-running shows in their service, and will support them for as long as possible. Invincible S2 bombed and it still got 4 season deal, Hazbin is never going anywhere if it stays this popular, and all signs imply it will.
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If that Rosie is really Lilith leak is true, what the fuck is her deal? Why send Alastor to the hotel? And if the person in Heaven right now is actually Eve, why?
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The Speaker of God seems very sweet.

Expecting her to be a secret evil bitch now because Vivziepop sucks at writing women.
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>heaven is a Westminster system
DESTROY IT
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>>146232054
Wife-Swap Theory is still the most retarded shit. Lilith is not Rosie.
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Only made to a Ep 8 in season 1, does this shit get better? This just seems like a years old cartoon where the main characters just say fuck alot

The songs aren't even good, they are so fucking..disjointed for some reason. Like Hell's Greatest Dad, Lucifer was getting in a very good tempo and then it all just...strayed
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>>146232056
interesting they are not naming her "Metatron" and are leaving her as just the "Speaker". Also notice how she's obviously a cheeky reference to the Ars Goetia "Birds" in hell. Interesting how her relief was in the court scene in season 1 but everyone thought it was Sera
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>>146231784
>>Heaven doesn't give a shit about Adam or all those exorcists being dead
>>Not even a fucking warning towards Hell to not try that again
Assuming there's a "God" here, this shit is beneath Him and the Archangels. They're probably glad Adam's gone since he was clearly a liability waiting to happen, as seen with him violating the agreement just to give Lucifer's daughter a bloody nose.
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>>146232002
t. yahweh
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>>146232065
I didn’t used to think so, but the first part of the leak was that Rosie owns Alastor’s soul, but she would turn out to be Lilith, so it looks less unlikely now.
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>>146232070
contrarianism doesn't do you any favors chudlet, perhaps another board may be to your liking
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>>146232081
Why are you booing him, he's right.
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>>146232065
I think it's more of a "Lilith is so powerful she can manifest an avatar in hell to see how things are going" sort of ordeal
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>>146232056
No need. Lucifer already acknowledged that giving humans free will just let them spread evil on their own. No need for the "what a twist" shit that heaven is actually evil. Adam being an entitled dick was enough. Not like they blocked Sir Pentious from redemption, they just don't know the rules themselves.
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>>146232047
You leave the yaoi fanfic writers alone, a good number of them can be pretty fucking good at their craft, so if that was the case she would’ve been decent at worse when writing. Her work doesn’t even follow its basic premise, has proper build-up, or explains anything about its setting
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>>146232096
Yeah I could definitely see that.
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>>146232077
>Implying Charlie didn't violate the agreement first by literally interfering with Heaven's duty
Her hosting sinners that are targeted and then killing the Exorcists just doing their jobs is one hundred percent a violation. Otherwise Hellborn could just decide to fuck with Exorcists whenever they wanted, which I think we can both agree would be absolutely retarded. The deal goes both ways, don't play this "rules for thee, but not for me" shit.
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>>146231999
why are morons thinking that Viv still has any sort of control over this series again? She sold the "setting" to Amazon, now the studio is in charge, heck she only co-wrote some bits the main series episodes are written by Adam Neylan, Ariel Ladensohn, Rachel Kaplan, Adam Stein. Helluva Boss is written by Viv and Brandon, that's the show she's at fault for if anything.
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>>146232111
>>Implying Charlie didn't violate the agreement first by literally interfering with Heaven's duty
Didn't Adam literally beeline for her from the get-go? He knew what the fuck he was doing, he just thought he could nip this Hotel shit in the bud before Lucifer found out.
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>>146231826
Lute enjoyers are eating GOOD holy BASED
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>>146232054
Allegedly just to babysit Charlie
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>>146232056
>vivzie goes in depth with hell by using shit like goetic demons and the seven princes of hell
>the best she can muster for heaven are saint peter and adam, everything else is basically OC donut steel angels in place of actual biblical figures like metatron, michael, and gabriel
man you can tell she really half baked the heaven side
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>>146232118
This is the first I’m hearing of this, so it’s a whole new writing crew? Do you have a link for this?
While I have my doubts Vivzie would’ve done any better it is concerning that this whole writers room has been this bad at telling a story as well
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>muh Lilith
Can someone explain to me why a succubus from Jewish folklore is present in a show about the CHRISTIAN religion?
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>>146232159
Semitic religions anon
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>>146232150
In Viv's defense 90% of the show takes place in Hell so it adds up she'd focus on Demons first. With Adam and St. Peter she was probably just testing the waters.
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>>146232155
It's on the episode credits...hell even the wikia has that info. fucking Wikipedia has that info, Viv only wrote Episode 1 and co-wrote Episode 2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazbin_Hotel
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>>146232041
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>>146232065
What we have to wait is to see how much of the "disgruntled spindlehorse employee" theory is true
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>>146232137
He targeted her Hotel and the sinners there, doesn't mean he was planning to kill her specifically. She and Vaggie drew blood on the Exorcists, that should immediately have called all bets off. On top of that, by revealing that angels can die, people are now less incentivized to even try to redeem themselves. They will continue to sin and now even kill Exorcists. Not to mention we have Camilla who literally sells weapons that can permanently kill Sinners and making money off of it, creating wars and encouraging sin. Adam merely purges these souls and gives them eternal rest. Sure he enjoys the job, but I'm sure it's something he learnt to do, since it's his responsibility to carry it out every year.
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>>146232118
because Viv is still the showrunner?

at least the sheer amount of writers explains why the writing is a mess to some degree: too many cooks and all that (seriously though, a show's writing staff should be proportional to the amount of episodes per season: having that many writers and only eight episodes is a fucking creative shitshow)

no excuse for why HB is shit, that's mostly on Viv
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>>146232181
ohhhhh.....
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>>146232180
I didn’t really care to look deeper into Hazbins production since I thought it was pretty lousy, appreciate it. I can only wonder what kind of production stories will be revealed when the series has long ended/left relevancy
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>>146232188
Showrunner means little she's credited as director, but the one to blame for the success or failure should always be the EDITOR of the show who is Scott Henry. Viv only edited the pilot episode. The writing is done by the writers and they mostly go to Viv who can only say yes or no, but in the end, the rights were bought by A24 there's a lot more people than "just Viv" involved in the whole process. Helluva Boss is an entirely different monster, that show is a lot more controled by Viv and Brandon.
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>lesbians
>"love"
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>>146232159
Christianity is just Judaism 2.0, Islam is 3.0
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>>146231784
Dishonored vet lute on her way!
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>>146232185
>He targeted her Hotel and the sinners there, doesn't mean he was planning to kill her specifically.
He could've gone anywhere else but he specifically chose where she was. After all the shit Charlie peddled in Heaven it's clear he had an agenda.
>She and Vaggie drew blood on the Exorcists, that should immediately have called all bets off.
Tbf it probably wasn't the first time demons tried to fight back.
>On top of that, by revealing that angels can die, people are now less incentivized to even try to redeem themselves. They will continue to sin and now even kill Exorcists.
Anon, Angels could always have been killed, Exterminators just always got away because of overwhelming force. Charlie had to mobilize he group to even stand a chance and even then they needed Lucifer's intervention.
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>>146231951
I imagine Mike would just wipe Carmilla’s mansion and Cannibal Town off the Hell map (Carmilla supplied the Angelic Weapons and the Cannibals were the only major participants) as a warning (and beating Lucy), but yes. It would be kino…
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>>146232180
Tons of showrunners don’t write every single episode of their show, but they do supervise every script
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>>146232226
wrong
judaism is judaism 2.0
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>>146232211
yeah, shows "ok" it is making Amazon and A24 an huge fucking amount of money, with Hot Topic selling merch for this generation of hipsters. As long as it keeps making them money, calling it "lousy" or "bad" kinda loses it's luster as a valid argument.
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>>146232226
nah, Christianity is Judaism with the Jesus add-on expansion pack that contains patch notes trimming down Jewish law as a requirement and implementing Original Sin on top of making Satan evil

Islam is the fangame that went into weird territory with mods
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>>146232249
Simpsons has over 30 seasons.
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>>146232218
More like they've hinted at Lute becoming a "Fallen Angel" (what all the Adam chuds wanted) but it will be Lute who gets the "Fallen Angel" treatment at the end.
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>>146232246
this guy gets it!
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>>146232256
and it keeps making money
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>>146232252
I suppose I should say from their own point of view each is the #.0 thing. Obviously Jews don't accept Christianity or Islam.
Trying to explain religions in general is madness in itself I suppose so... fuck it.
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>>146232159
Because the show is not exclusively about "muh christian religionz". It's a mixed setting combining Judeo-Christian concepts with a bunch of Jewish "Apocryphal" add-ons
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>>146232257
Fallen Angel Lute would be kind of cool if its a matter of her wrath damning her without her realizing it. Unfortunately if Adam can be the way he is and not fall, its doubtful.
>>146232265
Anon if you think profitable = good or that zombie Simpsons is good because its a money maker then I don't know what to tell you.
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>>146232249
What does that have to with anything I said?
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>>146232221
>"maybe then you'll understand why this is what I need to do!"
>Lute checks back 1 week after she killed Vaggie
>Charlie already got a new lesbo pet
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>>146232070
>Only made to a Ep 8 in season 1
So you watched the whole thing?...
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>>146231784
kek stupid jobbers don't get sympathy
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>>146232233
Of course he targeted her, she was trying to interfere with Heaven's business blatantly. She should've taken the high road and keep working on her Hotel without immediately attacking Heaven.
>it probably wasn't the first time demons tried to fight back
Anon, I'm specifically talking about Hellborn fighting back. I don't doubt Sinners have tried to resist death by running, but I doubt they ever imagined they could actually kill them. Hellborns should have no right to attack Exorcists, period. The deal is that Heaven doesn't fuck with them and go for Sinners only, so it's only fair to assume the same rules apply vice versa. Charlie deciding to draw blood on Exorcists broke the deal, she had no right to do it. Also, I know that the Exorcists were always capable of death, but nobody was aware of this fact. Carmilla was quite literally the first Sinner to have ever done so. Alastor didn't fucking know until he learnt the information through eavesdropping. For all everyone knew they were straight up invincible. Thus if they wanted to avoid death safely, then the idea of redemption might've been appealing to them. However, now that they know it is possible to adequately fight back and actually win, I don't see how the fuck this will ever lead to more people actually wanting to be redeemed. The fear of death is no longer an inevitability.
>>146232267
Lucifer is just generally a massive fucking hypocrite on everything.
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>>146232256
>Simpsons
Isn't that show carried by the merch these days? Even if the show itself isn't good the name is basically made of gold. HH doesn't have that luxury.
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I can't get over Human Alastor's goofy lil mustache.
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>>146232287
just general points of discussion really, if looking for a "hate the show just for being contrarian" circlejerk I'm sure there's going to be some anons willing to entertain you. Either that or go make a private discord group and circlejerk about it there.
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>>146232300
either the anon said it for "TEH MEME" or they are legitimately retarded, we get a good amount of those around these parts
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>>146232312
Point being that profitability is not necessarily an indicator of quality. If you offered the majority of the world free ice cream if they all agreed on one flavor, it would be vanilla, not rocky road.
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>>146231715
>no new on Kane/Caine
God you can't imagine how much he'd unirronically fit in
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>>146232333
>trips
KWABastor.
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The Charred Council wouldn't stand for this horseshit.
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>>146231715
>https://hazbinhelluvageneral.com
holy fucking shit hhg is eternal now. Adamfag's website on co?
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So how are we celebrating Lute killing Lucifer?
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>>146232345
>/hhg/ is on amazons watchlist now
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>>146232328
and yet also not a "lack of quality" either. If a show is profitable it means that people like it enough to pay for merch. Memery here aside, "out there" in the rest of the "normie net" the show is overall praised and enjoyed by a whole bunch of people. Only a couple of chuds here and in Reddit complain about it being a "catastrophic failure" which if it was it wouldn't have gotten past a first season.
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Are there anymore leaks?
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>>146232331
based Kane
HE IS THE MESSIAH
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>>146232320
Huh? All I said was that I didn’t feel like diving into the nitty gritty of the production info of the show beforehand because I didn’t think it was very good. I don’t understand where you got any of that from
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>>146232358
fuck lol
I should go back there some time...
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>>146232159
>why are two jew fanfictions being combined?!????
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This show needs more gays
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>>146232331
have you guys seen the fanart of cain (caine)?
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>>146232249
to be fair, too many successful shows have been axed because of business majors leading these companies. you never know
>>146232231
>Vaggie can regrow her wings
>lute had to get a cyber arm because....?
>>146232218
Viv cares more about her OCs than the biblical characters. When you really think about it, 'Like Gravity' should have been sung by Abel but is instead given to her OC. I get that we've seen Lute with Adam but it would hit so much harder if it was sung by his son. His own son doesn't care that he died compared to how her OC is grieving. because of this favoritism, I don't see Lute dying either. there's another alleged leak that Lucifer is gonna be killed by her. might be fake but if they do that, it's over. the fandom would seethe. Adam was killed by a cheap gag, I can see it now. I'm already seeing people get pissed that Rosie and Alastor aren't 100 percent buddies. And I for sure saw Adam fan girls coping over the idea that he is perma dead
>>146232313
if this was 2011, Alastor would have been depicted as white.
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>>146232351
>how can people buy merchandise of media based on characters that have stopped being likable and entertaining?
Because no matter how shit Simpsons gets, the older, better seasons are basically unforgettable.
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>>146232384
don't worry, there will be a angel dust episode where he gains fag-confidence and smugly embarrasses his dad with his gayness.
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>>146232393
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>>146231715
Shit, this bitch is hot, can't wait for all the porn of h--
>it's just Pentious as a human
Why are woman designers like this?
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>>146231859
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I'm pretty sure if you had long feminine hair in victorian england you'd have been sent to prison.
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>>146232362
It's a catastrophically bad work with bad writing that appeals to people who either jerk it to the characters and don't care about the story who people who don't know a good story and also like making OCs/ships. Despite the show being M rated, many of the fans are unfortunately younger as well and so their taste in media reflects that.
It is however very marketable for the reasons I described, and thats the difference between something being quality and something being profitable. Viv's work is essentially McDonalds. Cheaply made food that doesn't taste very good, but incredibly addictive.
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>>146231822
>Complains about this revelation with an image showing Alastor being visibly uncomfortable around Rosie

Do Hazbin fans really
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>>lute had to get a cyber arm because....?
So she can regrow it for her next fight.
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>>146231845
imagine waking up before her and hearing her soft moans at being disturbed pulling the covers over herself.
You make coffee and bring some back to her and she looks like this.
wat do co?
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Carlton lookin' ass nigga.
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>>146232395
>>lute had to get a cyber arm because....?
She saw fans drawing Lute with one. So, Viv being Viv, lifted the idea without considering her own lore.
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>>146232452
>Hey Rosie can you make me a sandwich?
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>>146232433
NTA but using McDonalds as a point of reference in an argument, just wow.
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>>146232433
>It's a catastrophically bad work with bad writing that appeals to people who either jerk it to the characters and don't care about the story who people who don't know a good story and also like making OCs/ships. Despite the show being M rated, many of the fans are unfortunately younger as well and so their taste in media reflects that.
Unironically a (you) problem. Going by it's profitability, viewership count, and positive reception, there's an undeniable appeal, even if you don't see it.
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>>146231822
rosie only loves him for his giant black wang
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>>146231898
The details are iffy, but it definitely seems like Rosie might be a disguise for someone else.
And Lilith might not be Charlie's real mom.

it's all just as stupid as it sounds.
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>>146232452
He's Markiplier but black.
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>>146232410
Looks kinda crap desu
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>>146232452
zesty ahh latinx
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>>146232467
I just described said appeal, it's even in your quote.
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>>146232446
Have her make me a plate of bbq ribs.
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>>146232395
>>lute had to get a cyber arm because....?
Because Vaggie had an actual character growth moment that justified her getting her wings back. Lute has had none...yet. Also Cyber-Arm Lute makes her design pop
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Alastor was forced to do Jim Crow dancing for hours in blackface by the Cajun KKK in the 30's
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>>146231911
Shitzie just had a freakout over the previous Helluva leak and tried to act like Millie suicide attempt was never in actual consideration.
they definitely had to change that Ep because of the leaks.
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>>146232474
>I just described said appeal
All you did was go "IT'S SHIT BECAUSE I SAID IT'S SHIT" and make a vague food analogy.
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>>146232452
Of course they made him black
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>>146232331
>>146232374
One vision. One purpose! Peace through power!
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>>146232472
dead fan designs lol
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>>146232452
He kinda reminds me of Sammy Davis.
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>>146232491
>speedreading
Shame. Well, I accept your concession.
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So the answer to the biggest mystery of the series is spoiled, and it's dumber than anyone could have expected.
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>>146232485
>they definitely had to change that Ep because of the leaks.
Why do retards like you think the episode was changed because of the leaks? The episode was most likely already finished when those leaks came out.
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>>146232433
>shonenfag thinking he knows about good writing
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>>146232507
sure Viv. whatever you say.
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>>146232491
most contrarian chudlets are like that anon. They like to call stuff "bad writing" and "bad quality" simply because if "X thing is enjoyed by others, I therefore must go and say the contrary because even if I don't get (you)s at the very least someone reading my contrarian post will be affected in some way directly or indirectly. Meaning that my cries for attention are validated"
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>>146232496
Yeah.
>>146232495
Peace through power!
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>>146232469
the problem with Hazbin isn't that the characters swear, it's that the sheer level of swears highlights the lack of individual Voice and distinct character amongst the cast

Generally speaking, no two characters should sound alike in how they speak, and Vivzie's characters speak so similarly that you could easily switch dialogue between characters and not much changes

Hence the problem with the swearing: Viv relies too hard on the voice acting itself to carry the characters' - well, character
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>>146231784
>heaven isn't upset that people being unilaterally attacked over and over fought back
Based.
>warning to not try [defending yourselves from being murdered] again
>consequences for [defending yourselves from being murdered]
Nigga what?
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>>146232183
There's plenty of those too who were never properly credited for their work on her shit.
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>>146232530
uhh pretty sure that's Helluva, Hazbin characters swear but unlike helluva boss it isn't every other fucking sentence. Some swears in Hazbin are forced for emphasis, which in terms of writing is not bad, not great, but it serves the point for the use of an interjection. In Helluva Boss Brandon Rogers has a need to add a cuss word of FUCK every other sentence to make his writing "stand out"
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>>146232530
I still feel like Charlie shouldn't swear much, since her whole thing is being so overtly nice and kind in Hell.
She should say shit or ass in very rare occasions, and struggle to say fuck.
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>>146232485
>Viv gloats over the leakers getting the wrong Ghost fuckers animatics
>a few days later, a GIANT chunk of HH S2 hits the Internet
it's like cosmic jinxing.
>>146232506
Rosie being Lilith is starting to become more of a possiblity.
>>146232478
>>146232455
it creates a plot hole. if I am watching this show, I'm going to question why she is the exception. it's simply a case of inconsistencies on the lore because "I added it to the story since it looks cool"
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>>146232546
except that not the characterization intended for her. Viv has mentioned that Charlie can be a bit of a spitfire instead of being overtly shy and sweetly. What she does shy away from is overtly sexual shit like the time she went to the porn studio or the BDSM lounge
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>>146232553
Vaggie didn't regrow her eye tho. Only her wings.
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>>146232553
> "It creates a plot hole"
What fucking plothole Not the OP here but even I have to step in and ask, because pretty sure that one anon already explained the reason why she doesn't get a "regenerated arm" Vaggie got her wings back because of the whole character growth from that song and dance number with Carmilla. Lute should be able to regenerate if she undergoes some major character growth moment. She hasn't had one, yet, and therefore she gets a cool cyber-arm!
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>>146232560
Vaggie's eye was specifically removed via Lute's blade; her wings were torn off by Lute's hands. Not the same thing.

Lute should totally be able to regrow her arm, as it was rubble that crushed it, and her own forceful severance. No angelic weaponry involved.
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>>146232577
going by the analysis that Vaggie regenerated her wings because of her character "growth" or whatever that other anon mentioned.
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viv's friends and employees running damage control for her? Not unheard of.
how's that 50% turnover rate going? why'd you fire all those people who were "like family" to you?
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Lute enjoyer here, in regards to the Cyber-arm I am fully in favor of Lute having it, also OURGIRL gets the best song in Season 2, we eating good boys!
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>>146232598
>why'd you fire all those people who were "like family" to you?
Given Joe's subsequential breakdown I'd say it was worth it.
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>>146232604
>I'M GOING TO KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM

Based, /ourgirl/ is gonna bring the pain. Sinner!Adam interrupting her delusions (or being interspersed with them) would be peak kino.
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>>146232621
Schitzo halucination ghost Adam is fine too
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>>146232621
The day we get Lute's song in glorious high quality, will be a good day. That shit's going on repeat for hours.
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>>146232646
ITS SO FUCKING GOOD. Rosie and Alastor’s duet was great too! What happened? How’d this show suddenly start getting good songs?
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>>146232634
>Luuuuuuuute... I'mhauntingyou!
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>>146232621
>Schizo delusion Adam telling her to keep going further and further for their cause, to the point of getting herself killed and joining him in glorious sacrifical death
>Sinner Adam trying to tell her that it's okay and she doesn't have to die and they can figure something else out
>Lute omega-schizo meltdown screaming at both Adams insisting that the demon one is the actual delusion and trying to fucking kill him
Fund it.
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>>146232646
Definitely listening to it along with Hell is Forever when we get it in all it’s full HQ goodness.
Unless Viv axes it completely like she did that one scene in Ghostfuckers…
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>>146232560
another plot hole. ok, let's say that angelic steel makes it so that you can't regrow a limb. a solid theory. this means that Vaggie cannot regrow that eye but her wings are fair game since Lute ripped them out with her hands. But. Lute lost her arm to a rock, not angel steel. so how does this explain why one could regrow a limb that was lost to something other than angel steel while the other, who dealt with similar circumstances, needs a prosthetic?
>>146232574
>muh character arc
yes, her wings coming back is symbolic and meant to be a cool moment but it's dumb when you try consider logic. Logically, why the hell would Lute allow herself to be hindered with a fake arm if she can get her real one back?
>>146232577
exactly yet if I was an Amazon normie binging this show, I'm going to be thinking "wait why?there better be an explanation."
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>>146231715
Is Lute's song supposed to be so sexy? Not even just her, Adam's parts are downright erotic
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>>146232577
It also took Vaggie 3-4 years at least for her wings to grow back, why should Lute's arm just sprout back out immediately? Whose to say the prosthetic isn't meant to be temporary while it does grow back?
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>>146232698
Thing is, we don't know how or why Vaggie's wings regenerated in the first place. Would they have still done so, even if she hadn't visited Carmilla? Did Carmilla's positive reinforcement have something to do with it? Is it all psychological?
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>>146232693
That bit when she's leaning over him while he's on the ground is horny as fuck, and him lewdly telling her to keep going with her schizoramble ... sexy.
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Oh fuck me, it's that time of the year again, time to kek at Alasjobber once more.
Didn't expect it to come so soon, Christmas indeed came early this year.
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>>146232693
enjoy my Lutebros we eating good today
https://files.catbox.moe/tvmvvy.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/edm8ro.mp4
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You just know realizing Vivzie the Hutt is a trust fund nepo baby hack? with an equally delusional mob fanbase
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>>146232698
it's never touched upon if that's because it needs to take years for a limb to regrow. when her wings came back, it was never dwelled upon. it was just a "well look at that, moving on". the fact is, we don't know if she chose not to or if it's difficult to do.
>>146232734
exactly. this is what bothers people about the world building. if Lute is the big bad, we need to know what the limits to an angel are.
>>146232749
did we ever find out what "you think I already didn't know?" meant in the beginning?
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>>146232749
DEAR GOD SHE CRAWLS
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>>146232767
>did we ever find out what "you think I already didn't know?" meant in the beginning?
It doesn't matter because the next line makes it obvious that it's just Lute guessing at what he knew, because the Adam isn't a ghost, it's just in her head.
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Yo, what does everyone think the ETA is on Season 2 dropping? Same month next year as S1 did this one?

That Sir Pentious backstory tho
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>>146232767
probably talking about sinners being redeemed. Since this song and dance number probably happens after the "court" scene. LOOK AT OURGIRL SHE BETTER GET HER DUE
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SHE’S THE BEST GIRL AROUUUUUND!
>What about the people she murdered?
WHAT MURDAAAA?
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>>146232799
>It's just in her head
yeah that's why we're calling it Schitzo delusion ghost Adam, still good
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>>146232800
at this point it will likely be "dalayed" for "rewrites" doubt they will cut too much due to leaks, the story about ghostfuckers leak causing a scene being removed is plausible, but the teams claim that it was removed in the cutting room prior to release and not due to the leaks is also valid. Mostly we got schitzo anons boosting the whole "lelel Viv removed an episode scene because of da leaks hee hoo *wheeze*"
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>>146232854
I doubt Amazon will allow that given the broadway VA's already recorded and the animation is pretty far in
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My god these leaks will cause a bunch of Schitzo Lute fanfics to be written which will likely lead to Viv and the other writers reading them and probably taking from them like the hacks they are. This is gonna boost my conspiracy that the leaks were intentional in order to find "material" made by the fandom
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Crazy excited for season 2 now, it's even better than I was imagining
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>>146232877
Yeah cutting the songs is extremely unlikely. Most of the budget was used up in hiring the Broadway voice actors.
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>>146231784
This. I have so many issues with this. But...
>>146231916
Ultimately I feel this sums it up well.
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Why is he so cute bros?
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I am going to molest all of you (metaphorically of course)
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Lutebros eating good. Birdbros have new GIANT HOLY BIRD MOMMY everyone is eating good today.
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>>146232940
"NOT-Metatron", is a giant bird mommy therefore she must have giant bird mommy angel milkers! OH DEAR GOD
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This one thread is much better than all of the dumpsterfire threads on trash right now.
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>>146232972
I mean...It's /trash/ what did you expect?!
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>>146232767
>did we ever find out what "you think I already didn't know?
The shipper in me wants to believe she just confessed her love to her Adam tulpa.
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If Abel is canon, than so has to be Cain
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>>146233043
yeah maybe they'll mention Cain or use them in a later season
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>>146232503
Looks a bit like Cab Calloway to me
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Season 2 Episode 1 Part 1 Animatic. enjoy : tiny url dot com HAZS2E01PT1
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post it on catbox or miss me with that shit
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>>146233083
Too big for catbox. Put HAZS2E01PT1 after tinyurl.com
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>>146231715
I don't want to click this. can someone tell me if its legit
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>>146233094
Nah, fuck you.
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>>146233100
fuck your mom
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>>146233098
careful because the leaker is phishing for gibs (money). There's an old thread in the archive with a lot of the leaked stuff already on catbox and other non phishing links.
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>>146231824
calling it now, Rosie is Lilith in disguise, she's had Alastor on her leash for 7 years for...some reason. The "Lilith" in heaven is Eve.
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>>146232452
what have they done to my boy
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>>146232452
I don't like the hair
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>>146233111
Viv made a point about characters not being other characters in disguise.
It's more likely that Rosie is working with/for Lilith in some way
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>>146232882
In all honesty, the fans collectively are better writers than Viv. Not every idea is a gem, but the fans seem to see the potential of the world she built (plagiarized) more than she does.
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>>146231784
If Lute somehow fucking manages that then she earns the Doomguy seal of approval
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>>146232452
He looks like Prince kek
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>AngelCHADs once again get best song
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>>146233126
plagiarism implies that you copy everything 1:1 and claim it as yours. Looking at the whole setting she has going on it is not a 1:1 copy of either christian or judaic canon, she took bits and pieces along with other bits like dante's inferno and built her own setting. So, again, calling it plagiarism if its not copied 1:1 you can't really use that word.
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Schizo Ghost Adam is good, and given where we are in the series and how many more seasons are left, I think it's a good way to let his "death" digest a bit. I hope in Season 3 or 4 we do get a genuine Sinner Adam. It just works way too well.
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>>146233144
calling it now, it's going to be the best song of Season 2 simply because the people involved are probably aware of the "meta-meme" that Disney Villains get the "best songs" and they're trying to emulate that.
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>>146233126
>>146233145
>Viv takes ideas from the fans
no shit, look at what happened with Vaggie. She was originally a moth demon sinner before she took the theory of exorcist Vaggie and canonized it since it was more interesting. FFS, exorcist Abel (who has a shitty relationship with his dad) has been around this fandom since, like March?, and even the helmet design is similar to what's found here:

https://youtu.be/BOlHM1E56O8

yes, there's differences between this animatic and what the leaks show (since it's a swap Au) but it wouldn't surprise me desu. Wasn't there a controversy where she ripped off ideas from a friend and only made some changes?
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>>146233117
OK WAIT a second, I might still think he's hot...I might be okay with this? It'll take some getting used to
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>>146233149
I want Sinner!Adam to be a rockstar in hell so badly, ala Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars. https://youtu.be/na8xgu-KLAk?si=rx-6Zw6bayk_fBEp
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Did anyone else get a boner when Rosie spoke to Alastor like a misbehaving dog?
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>>146233201
great now we're going to be fighting between OG "Sinner" Adam (extremely unlikely) vs Schitzo Lute Tulpa "Ghost" Adam
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>>146233206
Why fight? She can take both.
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>>146233078
Wow it's legit, thanks anon. It just leads to a Wetransfer link if anyone was wondering.
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>>146233221
most of the chuds around these parts are "one or the other" never ones to compromise
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>10 minute long episode leak
jesus christ, viv.
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>>146233222
Thank you
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the most Aka way to end this if Kana fights with Akane for Taiki love
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>>146231715

if there's one thing I'm happy about, at least it seems like Alastor is just a straight-up evil guy. I was worried he might get some tragic woobie cinnamonroll softboi backstory and I wanted him to just be an irredeemable bastard.
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>>146233256
Probably depends if they are gonna stick to Viv’s idea of him being like Dexter and primarily targeted other evil people.
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>>146233265
He butchered someone for spilling some wine on his coat
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>>146231715
>MARSHMALLOW
>discotheques
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>>146233265
Was it ever specified he was like Dexter?
From what I understood the comparison was that he had a specific code and morality, but not that he targeted evil people. And "code and morality" could have a very loose definition when applied to serial killers.
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>>146231715
I wonder who lost their job this week, do you think the actors are pissed? Amir seems like the kind of guy to go on Twitter and IG live to lecture about how leaks are srs bsns
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>>146231715
Alastor is a bitch in both ways, wow.
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>rosies "deal" is alastor must wage slave in the hotel for unexplained reasons
no really thats thee reason alastor works there
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>>146233287
I'm still surprised Viv didn't drag Emily's VA to Hell itself when she very deliberately leaked part of the script of the S2 finale
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>>146233297
Can't wait for some fan to make a fan animation of Steel Panther's "Pussywhipped" featuring Alastor.
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>Don't you forget,
>You are my pet!
>I say when to sit and stay
>play ball, or just play dead!

>the moves you make are mine, and mine alone

umm hello, BASED Department?!
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>>146233316
Lilith deal fags on full seethe cope and dilate suicide watch
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>almost 20 fucking leaks
Well, this oughtta' keep me off the Internet
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Kiss Lute. Bewed Lute. Proudly introduce Lute to your family. Slam dunk a nephilim into her Lute chute. Mommify lovely angels. Total Lute Love.
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>>146233325
but now the fun is only beginning, think of the ungodly amount of pics and fics that will come out of this all the while seeing Viv SEETHING
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>>146233277
Well if he has any sort of code I’d assume it’s something like no women or children so it’s more “morally acceptable” of his murders.
Like I don’t know how much of it is just fanon headcanon or not but everyone seems to think he was a mommas boy and respectful to women so him targeting just men seems more likely.
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>>146233347
bring Lute her schitzo meds, and remind her that Tulpa Adam isn't real and that he can't hurt her
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>>146231822
he's literally fawning here lol
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>>146233359
>Tulpa Adam isn't real and that he can't hurt her
Tulpa Adam would never.
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so the episode 1 leaks show that rosies "deal" with alastor is to... work at the hotel?
but alastor doesn't want to work there anymore because luci is, get this, too rude to him and he's had enough
Rosie from what we've seen from the leaks thus far hasn't got a concrete intention, she just wants Alastor to continue working for the hotel for reasons.
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>>146233316
I never got the impression Alastor hated Rosie from season 1. You think he’d be more passive aggressive considering how he reacted to lucifer
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>>146233307
Sounds simple enough so far, get in the good graces of Lucifer's daughter so she might help you out later. But in a more subtle way than straight up contract shit.
Also a question of if anyone in hell believed Charlie's attempt could work, they simply had no idea before. Will have to see how Season 2 addresses Sir Pentious being redeemed. Will heaven tell them immediately or try to hide it? What does it mean for others in hell? Will they try to reach redemption?
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>>146232532
Fucking kill yourself.
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>>146233368
He looks like he's having fun.
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>>146233316
I'm happy to see Rosie more openly malicious. The fact she can be summoned from the living world also makes her significantly more unsettling.
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>>146233368
Well he’s been stuck with her for like 80 years he’s probably grown to be friends with her on a personal level, he’s just tired of being owned in general.
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>>146231976
Because Viviz hates her dad. Bitch needs a good thorough rape to understand the value of a strong male protecting her worthless cunt.
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>>146232094
Because he's a faggot who thinks being able to do Evil is "true" Free Will. The cult of rationality in condensed form.
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>>146231976
This is what I've been saying. This is so asinine it's not even funny. Fanon Cain and Abel DO have more potential than this.
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>>146232518
ok, faggot.
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Helluva is unwatchable bad but Hazbin is at least entertaining despite the writing being bad and rushed, songs are great, gravity slaps
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I feel like if Cain was to show up in the show he should either be a very powerful Overlord, or the complete opposite and just owns a small farm outside the city and lives a quiet life in Hell.
but the curse of nothing grows for him followed him to Hell, making this truly his fitting punishment
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>>146233449
The thing about these two shows, is you can tell one is rife with executive meddling and the other, Vivzie had complete control over (derogatory)
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>>146233432
lol seethe
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>>146233368
Rosie doesn't seem the type to pull rank unless she needs to, and dancing him around like a marionette is likely to put him in his place after he gets out of line somehow. At the end of the day she's the source of his power and his boss. It's likely been an arrangement that has worked out very favorably for Alastor until very recently, and which he volunteered for with a general understanding of the terms, not out of desperation but ambition. Rosie plays the same game he's playing, and Alastor believes he can win, so no hard feelings.

Lucifer, on the other hand, is a direct competitor for influence over Charlie, who might be similarly powerful but is also naive enough to be molded. A Lucifer with active involvement in Charlie's life shits all over Alastor's own efforts, which is why he puts a lot of emphasis on his mere presence in Lucifer's absence, because getting there first is really the only thing he did that Lucifer couldn't.
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The revelation Rosie wants Alastor to stay at the hotel as part of the deal has proven to me at least Rosie is Lilith without a doubt.
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>>146233458
Plus, Lucifer would theoretically be MUCH stronger than Al is. And you can tell his beating from Adam had a much deeper effect than a wounded ego.
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>>146233226
Projecting much?
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So going by the big 9 minute Heaven leak Lute has a Golden arm now? neat.
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>>146233484
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>>146231822
>What was Viv thinking?
killing any chance of shipping alastor with someone, she is too retard to realize she is just giving shipping fuel
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Actually wow way more Sir Pentious than I expected.

Also Lute just going insane and I guess she's becoming obsessed with killing Vaggie in front of Charlie (before you know murdering everyone else) is interesting.
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Did we have/discuss this scene from episode 2 already? Lute mentions Lilith to Sera and she seems pissed/doesn't understand what she's talking about.

https://files.catbox.moe/hsdfcg.mp4
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Yeah, judging from these leaks I don't think Adam is actually coming back like /trash/ thinks he is.
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>>146232024
kek’d
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APPARENTLY the whole season is leaked, full episodes.
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
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>>146233518

Yeah Adam is ether really dead or if he comes back it's a late season thing when Lute actually attacks Hell again.

the only Adam that will be in most of the season at least is the one in Lutes head.
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>>146233518
viv already said he wasn't in her interview lol
https://youtu.be/HhJ3k2TUPxQ?si=qpL4inKmvCydGh3E&t=5038
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>>146233532
How the fuck did this happen?
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>>146233518
>>146233533
he's a ghost in the lute song
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>>146233532

Isn't the season not particularly close to being fully animated tho?
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Would you still breed this man?
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>>146233532
SHOW???
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>Sir Pentious: “you see, I went to hell cause I felt so bad about not stopping Jack the Ripper, the guilt condemned me!”
I was honestly expecting poor orphans worked to death in his factories. Honestly that could still be a reason he was condemned, just feeling guilt over not acting seems like a cop out.
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>>146233536
russians
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>>146233203
Umm uh no, certainly not!
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>>146233540
Not in the slightest, but the full episodes are still leaked as they currently are.
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>>146233316
I’m starting to like Rosie more…
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>>146233550

iv seen half of Ep 2 and 4 but not much else.
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>>146233541
I'd castrate him and throw him into a swamp for crocodiles to feast on.
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>>146233535
I know this, lol. I never believed in the rumor that he was coming back, I was just reaffirming that whatever credibility that rumor had, it's definitely not true now.
>>146233539
Doesn't count, the morons from /trash/ claimed the REAL Adam would return, of which he clearly isn't.
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>>146233203
reminds me of pic rel
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>>146233548
Aren't they busy rigging the election?
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>>146232452
I don't mind how he looks as a human. I do wish his hair had a little more poof and curl to it like black hair tends to do. His little 'stache is a cute touch, very 30s singer.
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>>146233547
He was Pentious' client. Pentious knew exactly who he was and still said nothing.
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So uhhh why is the Speaker of God seemingly a Goetian?
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>>146232926
Plappable.
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>the entire season is leaked
>a massive fuck you to Vivian's smug tweet about the Ghostfucker leak
>imagine if trump wins today
this is her 9/11 LMAO
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>>146233558
web sec is a joke. I remember when season 1 released everyone was able to dl first couple of episodes from the site and the exploit was hilariously simple.
a24 had put the sites up to the episodes but thought that because there were no links to them anywhere else on the website that it was safe lol.
Also the key for the api was bad. You could use the same key for the launch trailer for the first couple of episodes. it was a shitshow.
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>>146233567

desu if you really wanted to make him fully period accurate his hair would be combed down all neat.. but I don't really know if that would fit Alastor's voice at all.
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Why did North Korea do this?
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EYE FOR AN EYE SAYS YOU OWE ME A DEBT
BLOOD [SOMETHING] BLOOD GONNA GET MY HANDS WET
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>>146233573
viv when
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mildly annoyed by alastors arc
voting trump
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>>146233572
mpreg pentious when
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>>146233582
they got the beat for that song based on Imagine Dragons beats, of course it's fucking catchy
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I hope they don’t have to change anything about the show at this point. I feel almost bad
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>migatards are illiterate adhd retards
kek who would have thought
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>>146232331
he's traveling through Earth with his new boyfriend Lynch
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>>146233569
You see a lot of Goetian looking angels too.
Personal theory is the original Goetia kings, like Paimon, were fallen angels who followed Lucifer for whatever reasons.
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#I'mWithHer
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Abel and Peter are totally dating.
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>>146233592
Lute's song would be the biggest loss
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>>146233615
They're that slutty bitchy gay couple gossiping about everyone
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Nice to know God is indeed a thing in this universe, wasn't entirely clear till now.

Also lmao Lute, on to of losing her arm, being told off by her superiors she loses her position because of nepotism.
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will god just be a very big man with his head in the clouds like the simpsons
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So did rthe entire season actually leak or is that guy just meming?
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>>146233636
what does "coded" mean
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>>146233633
God is also probably a woman.
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>>146233636
LOL
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>>146233547
I mean that is one of the ways you can go to Hell
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>>146233646
Bullshit, the Creator God has always universally been considered a male across cultures, for man deposits his life-baring seed. It is his creation that is his "female" counterpart, the fruit baring from the womb of the Earth.
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>>146233518
>>146233533
>>146233535
>>146233556
ADAM SHALL RETURN

NEXT SEASON
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>>146233633

I hope they keep god Looking EXACTLY like that one poster in Helluva
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>>146233660
matpat?
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I can fix her.
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>>146233636
>canonically black man
>is a criminal
What did Vivzie mean by this?
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>>146233688
I will make her worse.
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>>146233684
matpat doesn't understand the universality of ancient human religion
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>>146233690
>all gays go to hell
same question
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I do see any nazi sinners in hell
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>>146233636
Behold: the fruits of catering to the mentally ill.
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>>146233690
Or the fact he's a slave owned by Rosie.
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>OH MASSA ROSIE I'S NOT GON' WORK NO' MO' IN NO HOTELIER Y'HEAR
>OOOOOOH LAWDY NO MISSUH ROSIE DON'T BE TAKIN MAH SOUL I'S DO ANYTING
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>>146233688
I'm in no hurry to see her re-hinged. The manic smile she cracks every now and then when she's losing it is pretty hot.
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>>146233719
omg thank you anon you made my day
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>>146233690
Viv is lowkey based. I hope she beats the allegations.
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ALERT! ALASTOR'S THEME SONG HAS BEEN LEAKED AND IT'S A FUCKING BANGER! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
https://files.catbox.moe/lqeh9c.mp3
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>>146233698
>st. Peter & everyone in the background of Welcome to Heaven
>all gays go to hell
555-c'mon now
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Lyrics to Lute’s song:

(Adam) You think i didn’t already know??

Did you…?

(Adam) No fuckin’ idea! If you don’t know, i don’t know, babe. Soooo….What you gonna do about it?

I’m going to kill every last one of them.

Does no one know who they’re dealin’ with? Think i’ll let it go, forget and forgive? The rage in me (Yeah?) is terminal (Yeah?) There’s no remedy (Yeah?) But to burn em’ all.

I still got a job to do, my mission’s incomplete. Only a traitor could consider making peace. The princess has to pay for, what she did that day, for what she took away.

Storm’s comin’, i can see the clouds. No runnin’s gonna save you now, and hard rain is gonna fall down like gravity, like gravity.

“Eye for an eye” says you owe me a debt. Blood demands blood, gonna get my hands wet. The flood’s come and now you can bet on tragedy, like gravity.

You think you’re hell’s great savior, will you still when i return the favor? Take the one you need, make you watch em’ bleed? Will you break thinking how you couldn’t save her? Wishin’ you were there when they needed you? The only soul who’s ever completed you? Then you’ll get a little heated too, and understand why this is what i need to do.

Storm’s comin, i can see the clouds. No runnin’s gonna save you now, and hard rain is gonna fall down, like gravity, like gravity.

Eye for a eye says you owe me a debt (YEAH!) blood demands blood, gonna (GET YOUR HANDS WET) Bloods coming, now you can bet on tragedy, like gravity!
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I need fanart of Rosie as a plantation owner stat.
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Nintendo Gigaleak ass leak
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>>146233743
they are all closet homos, there is a difference
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>>146233743

Fucking St Peter is part of getting into Heaven.

if you refuse you are cast into the pit, no expections.
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Lute's little spin here is so cute.
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god, lute really wanted that obese first man cock
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aahhhaaha... I want... vahgainah... I am... completely hehtero...
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>>146233636
Viv if you're reading this thread don't scrap the black Alastor idea. Make those flag retards mald as much as possible.
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>believe you did the bad thing, you go to hell
>believe you did the good thing, you go to heaven
you could call this. a belief system
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After watching all the leaks, it just blows my fucking mind that THIS is the direction Viv is taking. Yeah she's The Director, not the Editor or Lead Writer, but she still has sway/pull

>So Sir Pent died with regret, came to hell, did some noble shit, and made it to heaven.

You mean out of EVERY fucking one who has ever been there, he's the only one to ever fucking arrive? That's it? He's the ONLY person who died in some positive, meaningful way? Viv said she kept Penty cause people loved him so much, but does this mean they really didn't KNOW how to handle the Redemption shit in the first place, or--what? What was the gameplan, if Penty wasn't going to be more integrated into the story?

>Abel is there

Thanks, Season 1, for letting us know Abel was around. No where the fuck is Cain, how are you going to even ATTEMPT to explain/integrate this shit in some actually meaningful way? Also we've been denied Daddam, so yay, I guess.

>Lute is going apeshit

I mean we all saw that shit a mile away.

>Sera is just mad about Lilith being mentioned

Ok yeah. And Vox mentioned "She disappeared" talking about Lilith. Soooooo I don't think the writers have ANY the combined brainpower to not make this plot seem fucking stupid. Its going to be some contrived bull shit and I'm not here for the Lilith is Rosie, and the Lilith in Heaven is Eve shit

>Just this whole fucking direction

I stg if we don't get a Sinner Adam story line in S3 or something. I'm all ready on the fucking fence WITH the show, but these leaks just prove that they really have no idea wtf to do. I actually feel sick by the writing.

TLDR; these leaks suck and I'm fucking tired of the bad writing.
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Nifty is BEYOND dead.
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>it’s fucking real
first part of the first episode got leaked
more to come?
https://litter.catbox.moe/en3zab.mp4
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Veggicute
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>>146233826
>HH0204

It's episode 4, anon. And you're late to the punch, we have 4 songs and half of episode 2 already.
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>>146233825

She seems more obbsessed with Vaggie than anyone else desu. At least in so far as she's the one who would hurt Charlie the most to hurt.
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Where's the Evil Kangaroo?
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>>146233834
ok
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>Angel hypnosis scene where he is a good obedient slut
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>>146233831

Oh is Ponytail Vaggies new default look?
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>>146233825
It'd be funny if Nifty killed her too.
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>>146233826
Not to get too tin foil hat, but isn't telegram mostly used by russians?
Just mildly curious where this is coming from. Would have thought most people would just put it on twitter or something, then again I don't follow leaks much. Don't remember how North Korea dealt with their Sony hacked stuff, still amused that even happened.
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So basically

Vox and Co= Main villains of S2 in the smaller scale, trying to fuck with the Hotel and gain more power in Hell

Lute= the main villain of S2 in the larger scale, out to kill literally everyone in Hell (and maybe more given how crazy she seems to be going)
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>Sera calling them innocent souls now too
Getting real tired of this shit, it’s Hell, there is not a single innocent person in there.
Sure exterminating them while they’re already in hell was too much, but don’t pretend these sinners don’t deserve to suffer in hell.
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>>146233870
Same location and everything, fuck. Brutal.
>every single angel ignores you when you're still covered in the blood of a literal archangel that just got fucking murdered
Being Lute is suffering.
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>>146232926
She kinda looks like a paler Integra Hellsing.
>>146232930
Who's that supposed to be?
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So there has to be a reason for why seemingly the ONLY common race between Heaven and Hell are the Ars Goetia right?

Because the Speaker's design she's so fucking clearly meant to be one of them.
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why did lute tear her arm off
it was a fucking bookshelf
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>>146233870
>>146233887
All of a sudden, this comic feels alot sadder.
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>>146233885
It's the same mindset that prioritizes coddling the victimizer over helping the victim.
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>>146233885
Overcorrecting for their own mistakes.
Not like they can force redemptions can they?
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Not sure how I feel about the Pentious backstory cause like.. yeah it makes sense that the first "redeemed sinner" really.. didn't sin much at all. He was just kinda cowardly and let a bad thing keep happening out of it but then if it's that hard for someone who really didn't do much wrong how hard would it be for someone who actually did? Like Pentious.. was basically never actually a bad guy UNTIL he went to Hell and decided to go fuck it and try and be a wannabe Supervillain and even then he was... pretty bad at being bad.

pretty obvious he and Emily's relationship is gonna be a big deal in the season, though he wants to go back to Hell because that's where the people he actually cares about are and I wouldn't be surprised if he managed it by the end ether.
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>>146233895
Easiest explanation is fallen angels.
The only problem is Hazbin’s setting may not have had the war against heaven that traditionally is led by Lucifer that resulted in his Fall along with other angels who followed him, so it’s kind of unexplained now.
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>>146233916

They sort of are stuck between a rock and a hard place because they know redemption is possible now but they still have no fucking idea how it works.
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how is allowing a murder to take place a sin?
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>>146233824
Viv made a bet on the wrong horse, she did not believe in her own success and that it will get any more than 1-2 seasons and it shows. Funny thing is when she gets comfortable enough with the idea of having good pacing and not execute her ideas into poorer, packed version of them, is when this show will likely get axed
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>>146233929

I mean.. given the state of streaming I can't entirely blame her for wanting to stuff as much as possible.

Shows get canceled left and right and seasons are so fucking short now.
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>>146233917
I just don’t buy it.
Like there’s no fucking way a British inventor industrialist in Victorian era England didn’t have some horrific factory worker living conditions or something that would qualify as actual sin.
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Massa. Is comin...
Massa... is comin!
Massa is comin!
HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE DAH WAHTUHMEHLUHN
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>>146233864
North Korean thing is a joke because of the hoster that's being used
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>>146233905
Adam loves his schizo wife from beyond the grave!
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>>146233923
Well they can just stay hands off. The rest is up to Charlie and the sinners themselves, which was kind of the point.
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>>146233601
Lynch(ing niggers)?
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>>146233924
>recognize a murderer
>don't report him
>5 more women die
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>>146233938
That is odd since what was it, Invincible outsourced some work to them didn't they? Or was that somehow fake news? Rather confusing shit.
Could North Korea leak Invincible work?
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>>146233950
so what, they were prostitutes.
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>>146233870
>>146233887
>>146233905
>>146233942
>Lute’s new right arm was state off the art, being rushed out right after the…after the…
>After they kicked the shit out of those sinners and tore that hotel to shreds!
>Lute made her way to the mirror in her room. It leaned just a little to the right, something that always got on her nerves. She’d have to sort that out soon.
>Adam’s old exorcist hemet lied perched on her desk, his golden-toothed smile still painted on.
>She traced the horns with her brand-new mechanical fingers. Her arm would take some getting used to, but it would do. She could certainly get used to not feeling any pain in an appendage.
>She tested the arm out briefly, stretching it out and such.
>Lute glanced to the empty mask.
>”Do i look pretty, sir?”
>”….”
>”I wish you wouldn’t talk like that sometimes, but thank you….You know, i didn’t see you all day. Was starting to think you slept in again.” She threw Adam a knowing look.
>”…..”
>”Hah! Sir, you’re a lot of things, but a good liar is not one of them.”
>She sauntered over to the helmet and picked it up, carrying it like it was the most precious thing this side of Eden. She set it down on her bed and cuddled it close.
>”….”
>Lute smiled ruefully. Same old Adam.
>”Oh, fine, fine. We can take a little nap,
but only…two hours or so. I MEAN it, sir.”
>Lute let out a breath she hadn’t been aware she was holding in as she held Adam close.
>It was a good day.
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>>146233942
She's transforming.
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>>146233942
>webm loop did some weird shit
GIF it is!
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>>146233876
Think we saw a screenshot of pentious with a Robo-egg in heaven
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The fact that Husk may also know that it would also be Rosie makes it all the more hilarious that Alastor is not all hot shit.
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Bruh this shit is gay
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>>146233984
that's not frank
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>>146233603
Moxxie is leader of #WhiteDudesForHarris
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>>146233984

I kinda love how Pentious no matter the realm is just able to find shit to build all his crazy steampunk bullshit.
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>human pentious
>human alstor
can't wait for husks vietnam flashback and anthony flamethrowing japs at Okinawa
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>>146233985

Alastor is basically a powerful servant who WANTS to be the master and thinks himself the hottest shit and is plotting to become it... somehow.


Like he's almost definitely gonna try and get a oneup on Rosie at some point.
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>>146233998
Moxxine will be the worlds first bimbo president to spend 80% of the economy on the cosmetics industry! Fleak!
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>>146234001

Angel's flashbacks would be Mafia stuff if I remember stuff said about his family by Viv and co over the years actually.
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>>146234008
He's so Brat
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>>146234012
yeah but we all know that'll be just exes and ohs 2.0, because helluva is vivs personal hazbin testing ground
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I think the funniest thing about all this is that no matter how trash this second season ends up being the delusional Japanese fans are going to eat it all up and make a bajillion doujins that basically do the heavy lifting for the writers- it’s a hoot how shit their taste can be
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Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that Niffty is an overlord herself. She will be the last to have a clunky expository backstory and all will be revealed.
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>>146234019
actually weirdly I've noticed the highest quality fan art comes from china
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>>146234027
Clearly it comes from North Korea
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in north korea they have their own hazbin hotel where nobody talks about sexuality and they do things like tidy to street and divert traffic and keep the sidewalk tidy



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