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>>146430299Ian Flynn sucks
>>146430299Here he comes, rougher than the rest of them.
>>146430313>I'm great at my job.Knuckles, please.
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>>146430326All the westshit writers are.Jap Sonic is the only true Sonic.
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>>146430411Knuxcels seeething eternallyYou shall never obtain your people
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>>146430444>Ack!she will never be a real guardian
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>>146430444>>146430453>transphobic dogwhistleSmhFlynn needs to be fired ASAP
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Oh God, Trip is just female Archie Knuckles, isn't she?Ian Flynn, you hack, why can't you create anything new?
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>>146430557This is nothing like Archie, KendersGo away
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So, the most I'm getting out of this is... Knuckles is a loser?
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>>146430675big bro figure
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>>146430411Doesn't this break some kind of "no family" Sega mandate?Like I'm sure they're not actual family to Trip, but something about this feels... off.
>>146430346So you'll make sidestories around Superstars, but you won't actually attempt to write the new character.Probably shouldn't look this gift horse in the mouth. Potto can't write anymore, so we should feel relief he won't touch Trip. Though I do wonder how Hesse would've handled them if he got to write these comics instead of just draw them.
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>>146430375I JUST HAD TO OPEN MY MOUTH. FUCK YOU POTTO.
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>>146430689My guess is, they asked if they could use characters of the same race, but not directly referencing family so they could sidestep the issue.
>>146430709Oh boy, incoming ship faction. Look out everyone.
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>>146430689Now that you've said it, this entire comic will be re-edited to change all these people into random Forces furries in the trades.
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>>146430411>>146430428>>146430444Okay, what the fuck?No, this doesn't gel with Superstars at all.
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>>146430664I never knew Angel Island moved.
>>146430411Man, now that >>146430689 pointed it out, it feels like they're trying really, REALLY hard to not say Trip has any kind of connection with these people who are all the same species as her. I wonder what the artist notes looked like, assuming there were any and Potto didn't just tell Hesse(?) what to draw verbally so it wouldn't have to be a note to send to SoJ.
>>146430717 >How am I supposed to get back up there?Infinite jump glitch.
That's it?
>>146430752Waste of time/10
>>146430710The problem with that is that the elder is directly confirmed to be Trip's grandfather
>>146430444So what animal is Trip supposed to be? Are those clothes or fur she's wearing?
>>146430752This should have been made when Superstars actually released. This long after, it feels like just some fancomic made for twitter.
>>146430741>I'm an excellent judge of character after all.fire flynnthat's some spite
>>146430472What's happening in this panel
>>146430775https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_girdled_lizard
>>146430766What were you expecting? Knuckles is boring.
>>146430717Huh? I thought Knuckles could just fly there, I know he glides but that's for gameplay, like Rouge in adventure 2
>>146430752>those comicsRip.
>>146430775>So what animal is Trip supposed to be?A SUNGAZERIT'S LITERALLY IN HER FUCKING NAME
>>146430485Oh, she's supposed to be based on the Spikes power from Sonic Colors.Why the fuck would you recycle stuff from Sonic Colors? The fanbase fucking hates the Pontaff games.
>>146430797I didn't see those.
>>146430795Knuckles and Rouge can't fly, they just glide with Knuckles trapping air under his dreadlocks and Rouge doing the same under her wings like a glidesuit. They can't achieve lift on their own.
>>146430570I feel like Boom was making more nuanced jokes with Knuckles than this.
>>146430778I wish the Superstars prelude got a physical release.
>>146430411Take your pick
>>146430602FUCKING JUMP OFF A CLIFF AND FALL TO YOUR GRUESOME DEATH ALREADY POTTO
>>146430775Trip would have looked better without a nose.
>>146430325>Fang The HunterWTF? Is the word sniper really too edgy for Sonic?
Well that was terrible. Knuckles needs to be reworked or retired.
All sungazers look alike
>>146430854He doesn't really do much "sniping", especially after they got rid of his revolver.
>>146430752Why was the "Rate it" post deleted?
>>146430855What was terrible about it?
>>146430854>>146430868I wanted Fang to come back forever and he did, but they got rid of his pop gun and gave his clumsiness to a new character. I got monkey pawed.
>>146430716Nobody's going to ship them. Trip's a Classic-locked character, so she'll be shipped with Nack and nobody else.
>>146430717Unironically doing the "You think he'll remember he can glide?" joke from Sonic Shorts.
>>146430868But it's a better name than Hunter, hell Knack the Wessle would have been better if they wanted to change his name. >they got rid of his revolver.I'm not going to act like his gun was a defining part of his character, but taking it away from him is just more lame.
>>146430948>Nack*Fang
>all these classic comics recently are just to shill shitper starsLmao. Yeah remember the last one had fang with that topaz. Which wasn't even in the game. Why do they keep doing shit like this.>"Um Trip's people were there the entire time"
>>146430384lol have you even seen the writing in literally any Sonic manga released to date?
>>146430752Shouldn't this page be taken down for GR15 violation?
>>146430865Not cool anon
>>146430888All it did was show Knuckles is just a complete dofus, this was supposed to be an issue celebrating his 30 years of existing.>>146430972>I'm not going to act like his gun was a defining part of his character, but taking it away from him is just more lame.Just like removing Amy's open-love for Sonic.
>>146430976Fuck Sega.
>>146430995But Knuckles IS a complete dofus
>>146430990Oh wow it actually did get taken down for GR15 violation.
>>146430989Unironically SOVL.
>>146431007It was always Fang and Fang sounds cooler than "Nack".
>>146430989The Shadow manga is pretty cool.
>>146431023They'd been trying to edge it out of his character in the last few years. Now we're back to square one.
>>146431058If Knuckles isn't being a retard, than he isn't really Knuckes.
>>146430995>removing Amy's open-love for Sonic.Oh, right, they actually did that in Frontiers. So what’s the point of her character now? She’s always just been “the girl character” and “the stalker character,” and now she’s reduced to being just “the girl character” with no real purpose in the series.>But what about Cream At this rate, it feels like Cream, Cheese, Vanilla, and Gemerl have all been quietly retconned.
Ian Flynn raped me
>>146430743It shows in Sonic Adventure that it moves. The chunk of missing land where Eggman set up his base and you run through the Final Egg level is where the chunk that is Angel Island used to be.Years later when it falls, it lands in the Mystic Ruins by the train track. That giant mountain that leads to Icecap, Red Mountain and the Emerald Shrine. An Archeologist in the game says it wasn’t there the day before.
Holy shit, is Fang actually dead? I expected Trip to be traumatized by this guy, but she never mentioned him.
>>146431104>it feels like Cream, Cheese, Vanilla, and Gemerl have all been quietly retconned.Gemerl has been. Cream and Cheese are still a thing, just there's really no reason to bring them into things these dys.
>>146431058This is classic knuckles, he’s still a doofus.
>>146430346Is the implication here that Angel Island is constantly floating around the world and it just comes across Trip's island?
>>146431161Yes.
All female Sonic characters suck now.>Amy from comedic yandere stalker, to generic "strong woman girlboss" because of #me too>Rouge was the mystique femme fatal, to you guessed it, generic "strong woman girlboss" because women aren't allowed to be sexy anymore >Trip is Pomni as a scalie>Whisper and Tangle are boring, whining lesbians>Lanolin is a big uddered bitch>Vanilla only appears on comics and is generic mother character>Blaze hasn't been relevant in 1 and a half decades>Sally Acorn was removed from the series
>>146431227>Sally Acorn was removed from the seriesThe only positive.
>>146430299I like Knuckles, but I’ve always thought the concept of his character creates a problem. He’s tied to guarding the Master Emerald, which means he can’t really leave Angel Island. Any story involving him has to include the Master Emerald—and while that worked at first, it got repetitive over time. So now what?He’s the fourth main character (with Eggman being third), so it’s not like we can just leave him out of every other game. But having him leave the island without involving the Master Emerald feels out of character—borderline character assassination—because it’s something he wouldn’t and shouldn’t do.It’s a conundrum: his entire character exists to do this one thing, so it’s hard to write him doing anything else. Honestly, I feel like Sega should’ve introduced an understudy or another character to guard the Emerald when Knuckles needs to leave.
Was Trip not the only one on the Island in the game?
>>146431274This is why Amy replaced Knuckles as the third member of team Sonic. It's just so much easier to have her around.
This franchise should had ended with SA2
>>146431354I think it was supposed to?
>>146430647Why don't Chao exist in the classicverse?
>>146431354Storywise has the quilty gone up or down?
>>146431227>Sally Acorn was removed from the series>Speaking as if she wasn't subjected to most of these complaints either
>>146430673Always was.
>>146431227It does not help that Blaze lives in an entirely different dimension.
>>146430816Rouge CAN fly. That's why she's the flying character in Sonic Heroes, despite originally being conceived as a Power character.
>>146430972The gun was a bit important. >his original name was fang the sniper>the earliest screenshots of triple trouble had him holding a gun, though this was cut in the final game>his moveset in sonic the fighters was based around his pop gun>he was supposed to use his pop gun in the cancelled sonic xtreme>his return in mania had him using the pop gun>his debut in idw had him using the pop gunCutting his signature weapon is indeed lame. There was no reason to do this because it was a toy gun and Heavy Gunner is still around.
>>146431227>>Trip is Pomni as a scalieSo she's perfect.
>>146431396You can argue they had good ambition with Sonic-2006's story, but it really didn't work out so well.Pretty much everything after that has been flimsy, but Frontiers' story was straight up awful.
>>146430816>Rouge can't fly>Rouge the BAT can't fly...
>>146431434That's just gameplay mechanics.
>>146431104>“the stalker character,”Amy was never supposed to be a "stalker" in the first place. That label being thrown at her by fans is WHY her portrayal has been affected so much lately.
>>146431361Because Sega can't admit that SA1 is a classicverse story even though for all intents and purposes it is. SA1 finishes the story of S3&K. SA2 is where the series totally changes into something different.
>>146431466No, Rouge is a BAT.BATS FLY. SHE HAS WINGS. Her gliding in SA2 is just gameplay mechanics, because she is shown flying in cutscenes in that very same game. she can glide and fly.
>>146431464This reminds me, remember when Sega put Sonic in a literal Santa costume and called it a "holiday" outfit because they are that Christianphobic?
>>146431516Not at all.
Rouge can only glide cuz of her fat tits
>>146431532And now you know.
>>146431466>just gameplay mechanicsYou're being stupid on purpose. Fuck off.
>>146431449The acting and voice direction in Frontiers were weird too bad.
>>146431274At this point, I consider Knuckles guarding the emerald more of a family tradition and habit instead of something he has to do all day, everyday. Fang is a jobber that doesn't exist in modern, he's friends with Rouge, and he has Sonic to help him pound Eggman if he even tries to take it. There was a time where Knuckles thought every game that Sonic wanted to steal it, but I think him leaving the island more often is him developing to trust others more and be more social.
>>146430754>Hesse(?)Hesse has been too busy to do any work on the comics outside of covers for milestone issues and some early character designs; Aaron Hammerstrom did the art
>>146431115Report it on Twitter and to the police so we can get him cancelled
>>146430313>I'm great at my jobstraight up lying to himself just to make it through the day
>>146431651What's Hesse been doing?
>>146430689It's a case by case basis anon, not a hard rule.I assume Iizuka or whoever told Ian the story he wanted to tell, and that included Trip having a grandpa, simple as that.Alternatively, maybe it was Ian's idea, and this time they accepted it, again, it's not a hard rule, they can do whatever they want if they change their minds.
>>146431150I hope not. I want to see him be a reccuring foil besides Eggman, at least in classic, like he was intended to be before sega kept canning all his returns.
Reminder that all the writers are desperately trying to cope with how unusable Knuckles is.
>>146430325Was that Fang mini good? I'm not reading Scrapnik because Daniel Barnes is an annoying faggot.
>>146431420And yet she shows up all the time in Sonic's dimension whenever the fuck.
>>146431227>>Trip is Pomni as a scalieDoes this make Fang Jax, but not a bunny?
>>146431721Trip was dangerously close to just being girl Knuckles so I am glad she has a family and a people.
>>146430803>the current vocal fanbase who grew up on the Dark Age games hate Pontaff gamesFixed it for you.Also, the ability to climb with a spin attack is a good choice for a classic style character who has to abide by the 'plays like Sonic but slightly different' rather than suddenly flipping to 'fps' or 'God of War' modes.
>>146431735I sure LOVE how Knuckles' character development backtracked from being able to get off the island and hanging out with his friends to being obsessed with the green rock as if he's married to it and stays on the island like he's under house arrest.
>>146431700He works on the animations for games like Sonic Origins, Frontiers, Superstars and Dream Team; and he’s an assistant producer for the movies
>>146431274Him guarding the ME was to ensure that's it all well and good in time for Sonic Adventure, so that Sonic can defeat Chaos and allow the latter and Tikal to ascend to the afterlife. It was a prophecy and it was fulfilled, so Knuckles doesn't have to guard shit anymore.
>>146430803>the Pontaff gameseven as someone who hates Colors, who the hell thinks like thishow rotten must your brain be to somehow associate gameplay aspects with the english dub's writer, who had no input on the actual story, much less ideas like how the various wisp powers workand then on top of that, you've somehow some to the conclusion that because the game was bad, a concept as simple and ubiquitous to platformers as "sticks to walls" is somehow poisoned?I know most Sonic fans are retarded but this post is baffling even by the standards of these threads
>>146431414Sonic Adventure felt like Sonic 3&K just happened a bit ago, retconning out all those other games released after. That's why Knuckles isn't trusting of Sonic, because he barely knows his ass.
>>146430801Oh! She's a lizard? Huh.
>>146431822DarkAgefags are just like that anon.They don't really give a shit about gameplay anyway.
>>146431227>>Blaze>generic "strong woman girlboss">boring>bitch
>>146431354It would have been a high point to go out on which is why it couldn't end there. Series must be milked until you hate them.
>>146431783>Also, the ability to climb with a spin attack is a good choice for a classic style character who has to abide by the 'plays like Sonic but slightly differentYeah but as the comic even shows, she completely negates Knuckles and in Superstars he is the worst character by far. He was given a janky as fuck wall jump which COULD be a cool way of giving his climbing kit more utility, but the implementation of it was bad in Superstars and it will likely never be referenced again.
>>146431361because adventureshit is garbage
>>146431467It's all just anime tropes. The lovestruck girl chasing after the object of her objection and hitting him with her cartoon hammer is all typical anime shit. These games are made by Japs after all. This shit should be a given.
>>146431879Wrong, >>146431474 is correct.
Fang is fucking dead...
With each story, it's makes the story in this game for him more and more nonsense.
>>146431895Go back to your faggot general on the other board, thanks.
>>146430313sly motherfuckers
>>146431474SA1 was gonna have everyone in their classic designs except Amy, who still would've gotten her redesign.
>>146431805the 2000s games just had him there to be the dumb brute
>>146431816he has to, because s3&k was the last time this franchise was actually good
>>146431876Knuckles' strengths are equal parts climbing and aerial mobility and precision, Trip can't glide but makes up for it by doubling down on climbing ability. It seems reasonable to me.The only reason Knuckles is bad in Superstars is because the level design is shit and doesn't give him much he can do, unlike 3&K and Mania. It has nothing to do with either character being conceptually flawed.
>>146431884The point is that the core of Amy's existence is just "Minnie Mouse", and an energetic tomboyish girl whose very sweet and passionate and uplifting. The SonAmy dynamic is based around Sonic being too free spirited for a traditional relationship, so Amy chases after him while he chases adventure. But it got misinterpreted by people who didn't "get it", and then certain media used Cream as the "sweet, nice girl" instead which caused Amy to be written badly as a result, so Amy got misinterpreted as a violent, aggressive "stalker". And once that criticism found its way to SEGA and official writers, they course-correct hard by downplaying the very things that were meant to emphasize Amy as a sweet, loving but passionate and energetic character.
>>146431735Artists are not engineers, unfortuantely.
>>146431889Sega can't admit that SA1 is a classicverse story because even they know it was a shit adaptation of the classics to 3D
>>146431739No
>>146431949>classic amy has been better revived because there's no shit modern characters around to leech her character traitskek
>>146431940>character being conceptually flawed.Knuckles climbing is slow and boring and at odds with the fast-paced gameplay. Always has been this way. That is why the hidden wall jump mechanic should have been made more explicit and a core part of his kit in Superstars.
>>146431959Retarded post.
>>146432003Sonic and his shitty (modern) friends is a meme for a good reason.
>>146432003Cream isn't a bad character. Cream is just Tails as a girl, with the exact same kind of personality. But being a "girl" emphasizes the cuteness and sweetness and kindness by image alone. But Cream's sweetness and Amy's sweetness are two very different things, just as Sonic's kindness and Tails' kindness are two very different things. The problem with Amy and Cream is that they're both seen as "Girl", when they're really just the female version of Sonic and Tails. You're not gonna confuse Sonic and Tails' personalities, are you? Of course not.
>>146432034Cream doesn't have Tails' smarts or tech skills.
>>146430743All the islands move. South Island moved with just six Chaos Emeralds.
>>146432034>Cream isn't a bad character.>Cream is just Tails as a girl, with the exact same kind of personality.jesus christtails is already a bitch
>>146430675How old is a Trip?
>>146432054Tails' intelligence is not his personality, and it's not the point. What fills that space for Cream is that she was raised under strict discipline that makes her very polite with proper manners. That makes Cream behave in a similar way to Tails when it comes to being more observant, cautious and analytical compared to Sonic and Amy who are both more impulsive and energetic and will act without thinking.
I wish we knew about what happened to Knuckles people of the recent past and why he's alone. I bet they had some village like the one here.
>>146430816He flew in the OVA.
>>146430845All these fuckers look the same.
>>146432020The aesthetic was less surreal. It had full voice acting and dialog. most of the characters had strange jank gameplay experiments and whatever accuracy to the classics that sonic's story had was buried under the linear level design, heavy scripting and shit voice acting
>>146432004His wall climb is meant to be used to bypass certain platforming challenges and explore/find secrets. It's not meant for going fast, his glide is his unique speed tool. It can be used to skip large chunks of stages like Tails on crack with a good position or wall jump, and the way it cuts all momentum can be useful for precision platforming, something that most 2D games not called Rush include. Knuckles is fine. Shit like Sonic 1/2 lock-on shows what happens if you don't purposefully design the levels to cockblock the glide because it can easily break the game.
>>146430868Wish they could make him into more of a bounty hunter type character like Jango/Boba Fett. https://youtu.be/EZx4iZ5PV9c
>>146432085Tails' intelligence and his status as an OG playable character that didn't suck ass like sonic characters usually do, are his saving graces. If he was just "observant, cautious and analytical" he'd be trash like cream is
>>146431154They made Gemerl lame in IDW when him being Shard 2.0 in Reboot Archie was way cooler. It made sense since he was basically Sonic's son back when he was Emerl and modeled himself after him.
>>146432166All Tails is, is the kid sidekick for Sonic. Sonic himself is cool and confident with attitude and rebelliousness, so Tails contrasts that by being more timid, humble, and a bully victim who wishes he could be as cool as Sonic. You shouldn't judge Tails' character for not having Sonic's personality traits, because Sonic is Sonic.
>>146432182Gemerl being reduced to a Dollar Tree version of another character they couldn't legally use anymore was not "cooler".
>>146432182Emerl and Shard are kinda similar. But Gemerl is not Emerl. Just modeled after him. So they wouldn't act the exact same technically
>>146432034It's sad how Cream's sort of smarmy commenting (towards Amy) were eventually written out of her character. I can only think of Heroes where she was written like that though.
>>146432207I wanted Gemerl to act like a gentleman after living with Cream and her mom.
>>146432086The ME kept his egg incubated since the original Chaos attack until around when Sonic was born so everything in Sonic 3&K and SA1 happens. He's always been alone.
>>146432217She called Sonic a geezer on his birthday in Sonic Runners.
>>146431739It ended up being just a miserable mandated comic to end Fang's Gang.>inb4 ITWASNEVERCANONITWASNEVERCANONITWASNEVERCANONITWASNEVERCANONITWASNEVERCANONITWASNEVERCANONILOVEJAPCOCKINMYMOUTHEVENIFTHEYHATESONICITWASNEVERCANONITWASNEVERCANONITWASNEVERCANONITWASNEVERCANONITWASNEVERCANONIt should have been. Fang, Bean, and Bark was a fun dynamic and a team thought up since Heroes with a shout out in Mania. Nintendo takes good ideas from their non canon material like making Luigi a coward, and it made Luigi great.
>>146432192every sonic character who's worth a shit either mimics sonic in raw competence or is willing to beat his ass or both
>>146432207>But Gemerl is not Emerl. Just modeled after him.Then why even?
>>146432219I guess you could say he kinda is one with how he does things for them and help, but is just really robotic about it.
>>146432229It's because Bean and Bark aren't bad guys according to Jap lore. They're Sonic's friends. Bean plays soccer and Bark's from North Island.
>>146432232You can't expect every character to be Sonic's rival. Tails and Amy both exist to primarily be Sonic's supporting cast of allies that follow him, and Tails fills that role by contrasting Sonic's attitude with a softer, gentler personality. Amy fills that role by just being the Minnie to Sonic's Mickey. They both accentuate Sonic's "Coolness" through those different ways.
>>146432235Eggman wanted an enforcer to help him conquer the world based off him
>>146432228If she ever gets more speaking roles I hope they eventually bring some of that back.
>>146432217>It's sad how Cream's sort of smarmy commenting (towards Amy) were eventually written out of her characterCream being swarmy towards Amy would imply that Amy can be a bitch and too much. And they don't want that anymore.
>>146432250this is what happens when tails can't fight or fix machines
>>146432086You never played Sonic Adventure? They had a whole mesoamerican city with pyramids n shit.
>>146432243Bean is just wacky (even in Jap lore) and Bark was a shy (another concept in Jap lore) good guy hanging out with a bad group. I like that about the dynamic.
>>146432217>>146432286it wasn't banter between friends, it was cream being a cunt
>>146432318That's a different problem entirely. The problem there is simply that the core basis of Tails' entire existence is being Player 1.5 and Player 2. He is Sonic's kid sidekick, as in the Robin, the Kid Flash. He is supposed to be by Sonic's side in the action, fighting alongside him, keeping up with him. But after Sonic '06, "Sonic's friends" were criticized so badly that SEGA refused to let anyone but Sonic be playable for several years. So Tails couldn't fill his original role at all, so his character regressed more and more until he became... that. Sonic Frontiers had to course-correct that by reaffirming his growth from Sonic Adventure as the new basis of his character, and finally let him be playable again.
>>146432326When I say recent, I mean like not too long before Knuckles was born recent.
Guys this thread has a school shooter. Be careful what you say about Tails
>>146432343It's only fair since Amy can be one too.
>>146432369The best thing Ian Flynn ever did as a writer was bully Tails and I would forgive him for everything if he did it more.
>>146432340Bark also has the mouth of a trucker.
>>146432253So instead of him rebuilding Emerl but as a bad guy, he just made a replica but black? That's lame.
>>146432343Nah, you just can't handle sugar and spice
>>146431115Tailsfag....
>>146432369I am not a school shooter.
>>146432472Yes you are
>>146432369There is something especially funny about a grown man self-inserting as Tails
>>146430557Not enough time in the microwave
>TripPleasant surprise. Good job IDW.
>>146431917I found it weird Amy didn't get more redesigns after this. I remember getting thr impression that she'd constantly re-do her look to keep up with fashion or something., specially when ai learned they planned ro change her look foe this game very early on. Funny enough, this sort of happened with Rouge, her looked changed almost every game, for a while.
>>146432484Grown men self-insert as shotas all the time.
>>146432487Gramps reminded me of Locke. Think Trip was put in an oven or something.
>>146430819Boom Knuckles wasn't as abrasive. Different characters, different jokes.
>>146432540>I remember getting thr impression that she'd constantly re-do her look to keep up with fashion or somethingLike Kimiko from Xiaolin Showdown?
>>146430819>>146432598This is more in line with Archie's Knuckles who was serizzle bizzle
>>146432430Amy could be both before the orange rodent and her shit anime launched
>>146432604Pretty much.
>>146430411.....I thought Sonic Team specifically said that she's the last of her kind?When the fuck did they got the okay to pull that shit (especially in term of relatives)?
>>146432831When Superstars flopped. When a game flops Sega stops caring about any of its lore, becoming a "just do whatever" situation.
>>146430313Shame they couldn't use his modern design>>146430363It's sweet of him wanting to help out like that>>146430583Awww!>>146430602lmao, Flynn really does ship them>>146430709Trip would honestly make a good Tails equivalent for Knuckles>>146430752>Rate itNot too bad, although it feels like it was stretched out from a 20 page story
>>146430743It's an island in the sky, it's not anchored to anything.Hell, in S3K, it landed in a middle of an ocean; in Sonic Adventure, it landed next to the mystic ruins train station.
>>146430299Oh BOY, can't wait for this to be yet another monologue about Knuckles coping about being the Guardian of Angel Isl->>146430313Oh god fucking DAMMIT! Flynn has ONE story with this character!
>>146432852I highly doubt it.Hell, we could've got modern Trip if that's the case.
>>146431057The writing is dogshit, let's not kid ourselves here.
>>146432348>>146432318>blaming it on ForcesThe problem started with Sonic X and Shadow, where everyone outside of Sonic and Shadow were completely useless. Then 06 had most of the cast be so pointless you could write them out. And then Unleashed also had Tails cower from basic enemies.
>>146430313>>146431908This would be a cute reference if this sort of story wasn't all Knuckles does now. As is it's just sort of sad how everyone's become a parody of themselves now. Though even then, at least parodies can be fun, like in Sonic Boom. This is just mind numbing.
>>146432852You're full of shit. Forces flopped so hard Sega refused to release sales numbers for it, yet Infinite is still off limits.
>>146432928>>blaming it on ForcesNo, the root is Sonic Adventure 2 shoving him in that mech. Story-wise, he was very cool in SA2. But gameplay-wise, the mech basically ruined how he's perceived. Sonic X adapted SA2 Tails as its basis for who he is and what he can do, and so it spent the entire series portraying him as completely useless without his mech, and also rewriting his backstory so he doesn't meet Sonic by chasing after him and keeping up, and his fundamental role as Sonic's sidekick, little brother and best friend is outright replaced by Chris, so X!Tails is just Sonic's "mechanic". Heroes, Shadow '05, the Advance series + Battle and '06 (and the Rivals series) portrayed Tails as the kid sidekick who can keep pace with Sonic and fight his own battles, but because of '06's feedback, that got ruined because now no one was allowed to be playable. And so that causes Unleashed to portray Tails as his X counterpart... but without even a mech. He's a complete NPC, so he doesn't have anything to "do" at all, other than be technical support and fly the plane. Sonic Colors carries on that portrayal of Tails, and that becomes the new standard for Generations, Lost World and finally... Forces. Ultimately, all Tails needs is to be the version of himself introduced in Sonic 2 and developed in Sonic Adventure 1. Anything less than that, is a deviation that hurts the character. He has to be able to do what Sonic can do, to be "Tails".
>>146433008> Shadow '05I guess it technically does, but the 'everyone but Shadow is useless' dynamic there doesn't really reflect well on him either. At least Sonic gets to be part of a boss fight.>BattleYeah, he can fight, but the story does kinda portray him as a bit of a sadsack>06You can write him out of the plot and you'd lose fucking nothing. Doesn't help that his only attack is a jank ring bomb.
>>146433008He was in the mech because the game originally wasn't gonna have him playable. Only Sonic, Knuckles and Eggman were gonna be playable. The devs repurposed half of Eggman's stages for Tails.
>>146433067Yes, and that was a big mistake. He was made playable because of Tails fans demanding he be in the game... But as a Tails fan, I fundamentally believe that Tails should not have been made a playable character if it meant he can't actually play like himself.
>>146430786It's supposed to show her clumsily dodging the pillar of rocks, but speed trail doesn't really line up>>146431460She can fly in Heroes, the comics, and animations/cutscenes, but can only glide in SA2 and 06 as a gameplay mechanic>>146431908Nice>>146432059South Island moves around the ocean in a seemingly random pattern, Angel Island moves through the sky in an orbit that takes it over the place it broke off from the Earth, and Little Planet moves through time. None of the other islands move>>146432086Same>>146432353Gerald's diary implies there were several Echidna around 50+ years ago when he visited the island, but he never actually saw them>>146432565I think he's supposed to look like Pachacamac
>>146433091West Side Island was originally South Island during development for Sonic 2. Emerald Hill was even originally Green Hill.
>>146430752>>146430741This was just okay/10. Starts off miserably, then pivots to actually doing something with Knuckles and Trip, even if it was just pure fluff. Still, I wasn't a fan of Knuckles coming to the solution on how to handle Trip by recounting past efforts that were made up for the comic. It felt like the author was implying Knuckles is such a moron he can't really retain anything he learns unless he actively thinks about it. Felt like a disservice instead of him simply realizing that he was going a bit too far on his own. Or maybe just have the Elder guy knock some sense into him, to have the Elder be as much as a teacher for him as he is with Trip. Hell, you could have the geezer play a bigger role in the comic in general, have him antagonize the two.I dunno, feels like a lot of wasted potential. But compared to the absolute dogshit melodramafest that's the Modern IDW comics it's a slight step up.
>>146433129Yeah, I think they weren't sure if it'd be a sequel on the the same island or a remake, but then we ended up with two dev teams, where Sonic CD ended up being more of a remake of Sonic 1Speaking of islands, I consider West Side Island to be the stationary part of the larger Island South Island broke off from and the Island in Forces to be them rejoined since it has locations from both Islands
>>146432980Hm, true.Eh, still a nice comic. Always fun seeing Knuckles be a lovable moron.
>>146433198Funny how 2(during development) and CD both dealt with time travel. Chemical Plant was gonna be the future version of Green/Emerald Hill.
>>146431274>which means he can’t really leave Angel Island. Any story involving him has to include the Master EmeraldNo the fuck it doesn't! Why the hell do people keep pushing this as i that's objective truth?! Knuckles hasn't given a flying SHIT about Angel Island or the ME until Flynn decided to make that the foundation of his entire character. He long since moved on from that shit post-SA1, for two whole decades until Frontiers crowbarred it back.This was never an issue until Ian decided to MAKE it an issue, just like with literally everything that fucking moron touches.
>>146433277Its a mandate from Sega, apparently. "Knuckles can't leave Angel Island without a very good reason".
>>146431739>I'm not reading Scrapnik because Daniel Barnes is an annoying faggotShame, it's unironically the best thing to come from IDW. Being an annoying faggot doesn't mean you can't produce good work.
>>146430741i like that he crashed the eggmobile
>>146432340Yeah, I'll talk shit about Flynn any day of the week, but his handling of the hooligans was generally great. At least before the Nack mini anyway.
>>146432922>The writing is dogshitBecause? Explain.I don't want to hear "It did a plot I don't like". What is actually wrong with the writing in structure?
I thought it was fine, certainly better then the main run
>>146433300[Citation Needed]I'm serious. Show me ONE piece of evidence where Knuckles being anchored to Angel Island is a SEGA mandate. I'm so fucking sick of fanboys deflecting every issue with these stories to vague, nebulous "mandates" that we aren't even sure exists, instead of just admitting Ian's autism gets in his own way.
>>146433392>sourceIan's podcast, I guess.
>>146433300I refuse to believe that considering Lost World, Forces and multiple spin-offs just had him hanging around.
>>146432243Wow some shitty manual from a jap only arcade game is the true canon better ignore everything done with the characters since
>>146433430Well, thats their mandate for the comic, anyway.According to Ian.
Im not gonna pretend people weren't bitching about knuckles not doing his job and saying he kept losing his credibility. Taking it more seriously recently is a direct result of fan's bitching. >Um why isn't knuckles dilly dallying in mediaBecause you niggas ASKED for that!
I thought Knuckles could just use wind currents to glide on up to his island, it's weird that he needs assistance every time he falls off.
>>146430754>doesn't even bother to read the credits>calls flynn pottoI still hate you and hope you die of explosive diarrhaea
>>146433668What credits? There's no credits listed.
>>146432831>.....I thought Sonic Team specifically said that she's the last of her kind?Where? Not even snarking, asking genuinely- Sonic Team notably tried to say as little as possible of anything regarding plot with the game, so I don't remember them being as accurate as that
>>146433452Ian also said that they weren't allowed to use boss characters, despite literally having Neo Metal/Overlord as the main antagonist of the first arc. Ian says a lot of things, and he's mostly full of shit.
>>146433486I didn't.
>>146430972>Knack the WessleI am so tired of these threads being the same archie boomers who last paid attention to Sonic in 1997 coming here to complain about shit they've got no idea about, man
>>146430972>WessleHeh. A wayward wessle?
>>146433277Literally everyone kept complaining throughout the 2000s and 2010s that Knuckles appeared without explaining where the ME is every time it happened. You don't get to act like the shitty licensed writer made up all of the problems in the world just because you were either too retarded or too young to understand the historical context of why things are as they are now.
>>146433432exactly! glad you understand
>>146430741GayIs it me or do a lot of IDW Sonic comics just "I'm insecure but I can do better"? There wasn't even any proper fight scenes in a KNUCKLES comic.
Shadow and Chaotix one shots next year
>>146433897Shadow's is next month.
>>146430411You think they'd atleast experiment a little with the colors
>>146433008Ever since Sonic Unleashed, I feel like Sonic's just advanced too far for Tails to be able to reasonably keep up with him anymore.
>>146433957Doubtful. How can Trip have her Orange Dragon supremist culture where they oppress and imprison black dragons nigs if they don't have the same uniform color scheme?
>>146433957Too risky
>>146433992This is nonsense. Tails' core ability is flying, specifically to keep up with Sonic. This is reaffirmed in Frontiers where Sonic outright states Tails has speed like him, and he's playable in that game as well where he's able to go fast in gameplay.
Lanolin should rape Sonic
>>146433909That's not a one-shot, Boco.
>>146433957The entire Knuckles tribe is in similar colors to Knuckles. Why do you think they'd get to do different to Trip? At most you would be able to expect some being slightly paler orange, browner orange, etc, but odds are that got lost when passed to the colorist or Sega said no.
>>146433263Yeah, I wonder if it was an idea they came up with independently like Metal and Silver/Mecha Sonic, or if it was something they thought of when working on the first game. Time travel seems to be something they've wanted to do for a while, since it's a major part of 06 and Generations (and Sonadow Generations).We'll probably see it properly implemented as a 3d game mechanic since these things can take a while to get right. They were originally going to have a dynamic day/night cycle in 06, but had to scrap it for time. They tried to make it the main focus of Unleashed, but had to scrap that since it hammered their engine (and it would take forever for the Werehog to cross a Sonic level). They did finally get it working in Frontiers, but had to spend most of Forces dev time upgrading the lighting engine to handle it
>>146434013Sonic's faster. There's a mechanic in Frontiers where if you have max rings, Sonic's speed cap gets raised. For Tails, max rings unlocks the Cyclone. For Knuckles, he spins like a drill (which actually slows him down so it's trash). Amy has her card cycle which, due to drift mechanics, can actually make her faster than Sonic, but because it disengages constantly on rough terrain, it ends up being kinda shit.
>>146433838Because it didn't need to be explained.>Knuckes finally moved on from the ME and is now hanging with Sonic and friends.Is what can generally be assumed. It didn't need an intricate explanation. These are just eh video games starring cartoon animal mascots.
>>146433432Japs are autistic like that.
Shadow should have gotten an anniversary comic. Not Knuckles.
>>146434051>Sonic's faster.Of course he is, he is the fastest thing alive.The point is that Tails is fast enough to keep up, just as Knuckles and Amy are. That is important to their relationship with Sonic, as the whole point in the beginning is that Tails became Sonic's friend by keeping up with him, and Amy's relationship with Sonic also hinges on her ability to keep up and prove she can do so in order to chase him and be part of his adventures. And obviously Knuckles, as Sonic's rival, has to be fast enough to keep up just as he's as strong as Sonic is fast. Their abilities all scale to Sonic's.
>>146434086Shadow should have been removed from the franchise permanently.
>>146434058But it did, because people kept demanding an explanation for decades. You can complain that the people complaining were retards, but don't act like those complaints didn't exist at all. It's the same reason Sonic was the only playable character for the longest time. I get time moves on and lil zoom zooms didn't go through all the complaining and screaming that each game would get in response on the 2000s, but it's not hard to go and learn about it in order to gain context for why things are as they are.So no, it's not Flynn making this up out of nowhere. People screamed for years "why isn't Knuckles guarding the Master Emerald", so now Sega has it as a rule that this needs to be taken into account. Even in Superstars his story starts with the Master Emerald telling him to go and have the adventure, he needs permission to do it
>>146433508Might as well just cut the bullshit and just have him fly like in the OVA. If Rouge can canonically fly but is nerfed to gliding in-game for gameplay reasons, then Knuckes should get the same.
>>146433668>>146433706yeah OP didn't include the credits: said credits are:Writer: Ian FlynnArt: Aaron HammerstromInks: Rik MackColors: Valentina PintoLetters: Shawn Lee
>>146434058>>Knuckes finally moved on from the ME and is now hanging with Sonic and friends.>Is what can generally be assumed.No, it's what you made a headcanon. Basically no one else did, and it was never an actual thing. They just ignored the ME when they wanted, it was never an actual character trait in-universe.
>>146433742>Ian also said that they weren't allowed to use boss charactersBut Eggman's all over the book.
>>146431274Doesn't Knuckles confirm he shrinks the Master Emerald as with him and takes it with him so he can go on Adventures with Sonic and Tails and maybe Amy together?
>>146434039Oh wait, thats a Best Of. Huh.
>>146434121No. Where are people making up all these things from? He pulls out a shrunken Master Emerald in one game in 2001 that's been repeatedly contradicted since. He never says anything about it, and definitely never says about wanting to go on adventures.
>>146433742Ian's problem with the podcast is he always states in absolutes what isn't intended.Here's what probably happened- he tried to use a character who only existed as a boss and got killed, say, Solaris. He gets told "Sega prefers characters that died in their story to not come back, so avoid using boss characters like that". The understanding there being, avoid it, but still, if you can justify it well enough, they might allow it. For instance, Neo Metal Sonic, who is just an upgrade on Metal Sonic, who is a recurring character, not a boss character. That's easily approved- "for this story Metal is powered up again and then goes back to normal at the end".And then he goes to his podcast and passes the message of all this along as just "Sega said no boss characters".It's like "no money", which turned out to be "generally avoid depicting money because it raises too many questions but in cases like the Chaotix' rent it's fine to mention", but he just stated as "no money" and now he and his stupid podcast buttbuddy keep mockingly bringing it back up years after."Only male hedgehogs can go super" I can almost guarantee was actually "only Sonic, Shadow and Silver can go super" and he was the one to state it as being about the gender and species. And so on.
>>146434091Thing is, lore-wise, he falls pretty far behind the others. He's good, but Sonic just keeps getting stronger and faster. I mean would Tails be able to beat Perfect Chaos without going Super?
>>146433426Hawt!>>146433508We never see him do it, but that's probably how it works. Rouge was able to get to Angel Island in SA2 without a vehicle
>>146434174>Thing is, lore-wise,No, you mean "feat-wise". Because lore-wise, Tails scales to Sonic the exact same way he did in Sonic 2. The same way Shadow is identical to Sonic, and will always be equal to Sonic. They're gonna scale the characters proportionally, no matter what.
>>146434208Feats are lore.
>>146432548They are virgins also.
>>146434216The "lore" is that Tails is fast enough to keep up with Sonic, period. Feats don't matter in this franchise, that much. They'll say that Sonic is equal to the Flash officially, regardless of how much feats we have to actually showcase that.
Tails will never surpass anyone. In fact no one will remember him and will die with no bitches. Tails is forever lame.
>>146434051Frontiers feels like for every thing it does right, it comes with with a drawback. Tails is next to useless without the Cyclone since all he can attack with are wrenches, Amy is great at platforming but her combat skills are awful and Knuckles is just clunky to use despite how strong he is.
>>146434208That's not true. Sonic does get stronger and faster. He lost to Infinite then came back around and won. These characters aren't just staying stagnant forever, never improving. In order to keep pace with Sonic, Tails would need to improve at the same right.
>>146434244But enough about Silver.
>>146434262Silver actually put in the work against Infinite unlike Fails who was giving up the booty to Chaos 0
>>146430299>>146430709Knuckles FUCKS
>>146434258>That's not true. Sonic does get stronger and faster. Yes, and the other characters will scale proportionally to him no matter what game it is. The "rule" of Shadow's character by his very concept is that he is identical to Sonic. No matter how much more powerful Sonic becomes, Shadow will always be identical to his speed and abilities. The same applies to Tails. He'll always be right behind Sonic's capabilities as his sidekick, able to keep pace with him while flying, because that's the "rule" and basis for Tails' character. The specific details will change to keep that broad concept universal.
>>146434296That's just what you want it to be. It doesn't reflect what's actually happening. Tails will never be strong enough to beat Perfect Chaos.
>>146434311In your dreams maybe.
>>146434099Cope and Seethe, Shadow is the best thing about this shitty franchise.
>>146434247>all he can attack with are wrenchesWhat was wrong with the tail whip?
>>146434047I was about to say that the echidnas in sa1 did have some range (i remember the regular echidna guys looking pretty magenta) but the shade thing you mention covers that pretty well, though there's already a lot betwen knuckles and tikal
>>146434231>The "lore" is that Tails is fast enough to keep up with Sonic, periodNot at his fastest.
>>146434258
>>146434340So he is like Goku.
>>146434296>Yes, and the other characters will scale proportionally to him no matter what game it is.Silver kicked Sonic's ass in 06 but lost to him in Generations.
>>146434338The entire point of Tails' ability to fly is that he can keep up and catch up. That's why his gameplay in SA1 is centered around racing Sonic. Sonic is the fastest thing alive, and Tails is capable of keeping up with him.
Shadow is better than Sonic. He will always be at his peak and more. Sonic will eventually be out of his prime. ThereforeShadow>>>>>>>>>>>>SonicYou literally can't refute this.
>>146434327Not enough to show that Tails is the tech man
>people now having to deal with Sparky on /co/Sparky go back to /vg/ you paragonfag autistic retard
>>146434354Silver in '06 used his psychokinesis on Sonic directly. He never does this in Generations. Regardless, it doesn't matter because Silver, like Shadow, is "equal" to Sonic in overall capability.
>>146434355His flight isn't that fast. What Tails specifically uses to keep pace with Sonic is to use his tails as thrusters. If Tails has to worry about lift, he slows down hard. A helicopter can't keep pace with a fighter jet.At any rate, you're mistaking the initial impetus for his learning to fly with talent. Tails was fast enough to keep pace with Sonic at first, but Sonic's talent surpasses Tails'. It's inevitable that Sonic would eventually leave Tails in the dust.
>>146434284All of them never banged him so he's a simp who got played
>>146431679But then Evan would take over and the series would become Silver's Ultimate Harem with Silver being the typical dorky harem protagonist that is too pussy to make any moves.
>>146434418You're on copium to believe that.
>>146434407It's a children's franchise. They won't show Knuckles getting head on all 4 heads.
>>146434423Christ no.
>>146434519I want you as part of my harem, Boco-kun~
>>146434539Don't be gay.
>>146434099>Removing the 2nd most popular character in the franchise???
>>146434407>All of them never banged himKnuckles and Julie-su have a daughter in the future arcs, Lara-su. Due to time shenanigans, there are even two version of her.
>>146434599And look how she turned out.
>>146434625we don't talk about the penders chronicles.
>>146434369>Silver, like Shadow, is "equal" to Sonic in overall capability.Silver is not Sonic and Shadow's equal, he is explicitly a young and naive person trying to reach their level and has never been stated to be their equal
>>146434423Evan is trying to represent Silver better now. It's just Ian that pushes the dorky retard characterization because he only bases Silver's character on the English voice and doesn't pay attention to anything else.
>>146434663With IDW being canon it is now canon that Silver is an incompetent rookie that's less experienced and capable than the Diamond Cutters.
Silver is just a shit character.
>>146434782Old Silver grew up in a dying world, just fighting the offshoots of Iblis. They were a threat, but Silver probably wouldn't have gotten great experience from fighting them. His environment probably toughened him up, but his enemies had no intelligence and their only ability was setting things on fire. Still, I think he was probably stronger than the current Silver. The current Silver seems painfully inexperienced. Compared to Sonic who gets caught up crazy shit constantly, Silver seems to be more of a beat cop.
>>146434845>knowingnod.gif
Trip is so cute, I want to see how starstruck Fang gets her when he shows his skills.
>>146434726Your post confused me because it reads like you're trying to just blame Ian for Silver's current characterization while providing evidence of Evan admitting to being responsible. If Evan is trying to improve Silver, it wouldn't be clear yet because that post is only from two months ago. To be fair, Evan and Ian probably both have had a part to play in it.
>>146431439They should give him back his original concept gun and have it shoot energy bullets if real bullets are too edgy. He should also go back to the name Fang the Sniper, it sounds way cooler than Fang the Hunter.
>>146431420A place that Sega does fuck all with AND YET still keeps Ian and anyone else from expanding on.
>>146430394this guy's art is oddly soulless. It's like he's tracing over 3D models
>>146434663He can go super sand, he is equal.
>>146435096Nack "Fang" Sniper should be his full name.
>>146435147Doesn't look like he's a tracer. he's just good at being very on model like Spaz.
>>146434174>I mean would Tails be able to beat Perfect Chaos without going Super?If the plot said so yeah, like, power levels in this franchise are whatever the plot wants it to be because they are usually video games and the moment you take control of the characters you become the very best unless it's a >win in gameplay >lose in cutscene situation. You want an example of that? Rivals 2, the end of Tails campaign is beating the Ifrit, a fire demon and a mind controlled Sonic, at the same time, this feat alone would skyrocket Tails capabilities through the ceiling and Sega is ok with that being part of the story, just as they are ok with Tails becoming afraid of normal egg pawns in Forces, because the story wants Tails to be rescued by Sonic now and Sega is ok with that. The characters are as capable as Sega wants them to be at any given moment and they don't really care with giving them outliers or anti feats of they feel like it.
>>146430326Better than penders trying to make echidnas magic furry kryptonians
>>146435147>hey look one of the best artists in the comic! he draws on-model so I'm going to schizo and start thinking he traces 3d models!
>>146430299>Classickino has finally arrived to BTFO modern idw again.Classic always wins. Modernshit always loses.Scrapnik Island? Best Modern arc, heavily inspired by Classic Sonic.
>>146434284>>146434407>>146430709>>146433426fuckles with trip
>>146435147It's certainly very stiff and unengaging, but I wouldn't say its traced.>>146435271There ARE artists on this book that trace 3D models though, that's undeniable. This just isn't a good example of that.
>>146434596The best way to get rid of a popular character without hurting sales and making people angry is to slowly starve the character of attention until people naturally forget about them and move on. It happens all the time in other franchises. What you do is when you decide you want the character gone, you slowly dwindle their screentime. Core cast member > Secondary character that shows up in main games, but isn't playable > Only shows up in spinoffs > Only gets background cameos and mentions > Doesn't show up at all. If they wanted to do this to Shadow, they could have still tried it after 2006 even with his massive popularity and focus at the time. They were kind of trying that, but they messed up by doing it so many Sonic characters at the time that people caught on. If they did it right, Shadow today would still get some discussion with some wanting to see him return, but a lot of it would be dismissed as faggots being obsessed with an irrelevant character that was gotten rid of because he sucked. I like Shadow and I don't think he sucks, but people would decide he did suck because he stopped being relevant. I'm trying to say popularity still needs to be fed to not starve. Shadow being popular doesn't mean the series needs him. However, I'm glad Shadow's still around.
>>146430741>30th Ani comic to celebrate one of the most classic characters>Random story that feels more like a story to promote the new guy (gal) rather than the character meant to be celebratedThat's it?
>>146434845Someone please remind me why Silver is still around after the Metal Virus arc? This comic is so dull that I'm forgetting what's even happening anymore.
>>146435147I'd blame that on the inker and the colorist, which can both contribute to making a penciler's art better or worse. Both of them were a dud here, unfortunately. His art looked better on the other anniversary specials.
>goodSeasons of Chaos and Amy's 30th Anniversary>okayKnuckles' 30th Anniversary>never readTails' 30th Anniversary>toilet paper Fang Mini
>>146435936Evan is a Silver fan
>>146430673He's pretty much a dork who wants to be an edgy, angsty badass
>>146436108The worst kind of Silver fan.
>>146432425Advance 3's bosses were actually pretty difficult, so he was clearly onto something.Or he just wanted to piss off the hedgehog by desecrating his friend's corpse. Either way.
>>146436167Blaze can reverse memory loss.Surge and Kit have no conflict.
>>146436194>Blaze can reverse memory loss.What?
>>146435469>Modernshit always loses.And how. >Fleetway ends with SA1 and is pure mile-a-minute adventurekino>Archie mixes Classic and Modern and is a mix of kino and shit>IDW is pure Modern, pure shitModernbros....
>>146430752As a 30th anniversary for the character. Not a very good special. Even more compared to the others.As "just a storybook", I thought it was very nice. Pretty fun, Trip is cute,Knuckles is still a goof. Good times.
>>146430693>>146430708So tsundere
>>146436329Having Fang's return and the year of Shadow happening at the same time of Knuckles' anniversary probably made everyone too exhausted to want to do anything that special for Knuckles. It could be worse because at least Knuckles got that tv show. You could be Metal Sonic begging Amy for scraps.
>>146434443Seek help, Knux is a virgin in all aspects hence the beta shyness towards ladies.>>146434439No u
>>146436217She's a psychic/mystic type of character, pyrokinesis is her bread and butter but it isn't all she has.
>>146435611Tdlr Shadow > Sonic and his gay friends
>>146436217When Sonic gets amnesia (happens to a Sonic character every week it seems) and Blaze cures it with the Sol Emeralds.
>>146436607You need to seek help because of how much you need to see Knuckles have sex.
>>146436634I said I like Shadow multiple times.
>>146434086Shadow's getting a special to go with the movie.
>>146435611Nintendo did this with Wario. He used to be more popular than Peach and Bowser.
>>146436685I wouldn't say it happened to Wario because he has his own game series. Disney has been trying to do it to Donald.
>>146435713I like Trips though and I ship him and Knuckles. He is the best femboy for the series [spoilerI am unironically surprised they didn't go that angle. I was legit expecting them to come out at some point and say this character is either trans or nonbie just to win over some kiss ass points after flooding this fucking series with dykes[/spoiler]
>>146436329No one gives a fuck about Metal Sonic, literally the most redundant sonic villain.
>>146432070It's to be assumed she's the same age as Amy, so 12.
>>146436805>non-hidden spoilerTrip is a game original, those are untouchable. So unless she was made a trap from the get-go, it is difficult that the progressive western writers could do anything. All the lesbians are their OCs turned official characters.
>>146430299bump
>>146436667But it is about Shadow or Movie Shadow?
>>146430313>>146431908DUDEMEMESLMAO
>>146432831>.....I thought Sonic Team specifically said that she's the last of her kind?I can't find anything saying that on Supersrtar's website, which is the one singular place I would expect something like that ot be mentionedsonicsuperstars.com>Not much is known yet about Trip, the mysterious girl first encountered by Fang on the Northstar Islands. While a bit clumsy, Trip is heavily armored and has been enlisted by Fang and Dr. Eggman to protect and guide them around the wonders of this uncharted region.
>>146434726Silver was treated with dignity under Ian. He beat Enerjak in his base form. In IDW he was the hero of the metal virus arc. It wasn’t until Evan became lead writer was he treated as some special needs child who’s completely worthless and gay.
>>146435469>>146436247Superstars killed Santiago by being so shit. Meanwhile Shadow’s new game is a critical and commercial smash hit.Classic is dead, and I spit on its grave.
>>146436868You act like any of the game cast are actually in-character in IDW.
>>146435469>>146438134>Superstars killed Santiago by being so shit. Meanwhile Shadow’s new game is a critical and commercial smash hit.>Classic is dead, and I spit on its grave.Does anyone else think Sega should just axe the Modern Sonic branch? The Modern Sonic games have never been good. Some might say Colors and Generations were okay but honestly they're just Classic Sonic gameplay but dumbed down, have Wisps, and are 2.5D. The Modern Sonic games along with their awful, ravenous fanbase have given the franchise an amazingly terrible reputation. I think it's about time for Sega to give up on Modern Sonic and focus on making actual Good Sonic games from here on out and the only way for that to happen is to make Mania sequels as it's a formula that works (the best received Sonic game in 15 years). Nobody cares about modernshit outside of storyfags and characterautists anyways. Despite the fact the worst games, stories and characters are all modernshit. So what do you think?Modernshit is genuinly bottom-of-the-barrel, incoherent drivel with not an ounce of intelligence, sophistication, substance or creative value. They chuck in a bunch of edgy, contrived scenarios, cliches and obnoxious, juvenile metaphors together and then repeats them ad-nauseam to keep knuckle-dragging goons entertained like junkies looking for their next shot cheap of poorly built plot twist and shock value. I'm sure Sega is laughing all the way to the bank milking this creatively bankrupt cow that is Modern Sonic. You'd have to possess the emotional immaturity of a sheltered teenage girl to be invested in its circus-tier, cringe-lord games, even worse to take its low-level, unsubtle, parodical writing with any seriousness at all.
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Why was IDW permitted to ignore the Year of Shadow promotion present in everything else Sonic related at this point? Even collabs?Was it a good idea? Shadow Generations was the biggest game Sonic has had in a long time. They didn't need to tie into the game or anything but he's specifically been absent this year, almost like it's being done out of defiance.
Why do so many writers seem to want to keep Knuckles a hopeless dumbass when pretty much every fan, even people who don't like him, would rather he not be so stupid?
>>146438293It’s because they started this current dogshit arc about “clutch and duo and lanolin” in August of 2023. They’ve dragged it on for more than a year now and it’s continuing until at least May of 2025. Not out of defiance, they just seriously thought people wanted 1 & a half years of Lanolin and Clutch
>>146438293The comic has still yet to touch any Frontiers material. It’s still contained in post-forces purgatory (but can’t mention Infinite or the phantom ruby for some reason.)
>>146438434But anon if we moved onto Frontiers then we couldn’t give the people what they really want - Tangle & Whisper!
>>146438434Or the player character who should be an even bigger legend than Whisper is (Silver's words) even if he died or something.
>>146438490Post Frontiers actually would let them fuck around with OCs more, since it frames Tails, Knuckles and Amy as preparing for journeys of self discovery after the game ends. So there would be fewer characters to manage.
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>>146434058And Eggman hasn't been abusing the shit out of it, why?
>>146433392>[Citation Needed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX70IDH3jug&t=732s>Q:Near the end of the Metal Virus saga, Sonic orders Gemerl to face Zeena solo. Doesn't Sonic know the Deadly Six can control robots? Seems like kind of a bone-headed move on Sonic's part.Ian: Yeah that was a last second Sega thing. Knuckles was supposed to be part of the team that went down and got the emeralds back. Very late in the game we got a note saying Knuckles would never leave the Master Emerald unattended especially with Eggman and Metal Sonic present. Fair enough, but Gemerl's there. That's why he's there, to guard things. They go "Nope, Knuckles wouldn't do it." "But we had the outline approved-" "Knuckles isn't gonna move." "...Okay how do we rationalize this?" Gemerl is really bloody fast, he'll get up before Zeena can take control of him, they're out of options so it's the best they can do. Does that work? Maybe, maybe not but ultimately it got us that heartwarming scene with him and Cream so can we fall back on "rule of cool"? Does it work perfectly? No I concede, but I tried to at least lampshade it a little bit.Kyle: Oh man, Ian you blame Sega yet again for your incompetence. Except no, you justified it but there's so many people who say that.
>>146438880>the Master Emerald is apparently so useless that even Eggman doesn't want itWhat makes it worse is that, going by the Sonic Channel art, Sage makes a hobby of bullying Knuckles. The M.E and Angel Island could be under Imperial control right now, but who fucking cares.
>simple whimsy plot>no grandose arc>no multiple issues>only sega based charsgood/10. IDW would be more bearable if it took this approach over archie v3.
>>146438880Because he was bored with that after the first time using it and has since moved on to everythhing else (magic carpets in riders, phantom ruby in Forces, Cyberspace in Frontiers, Black Onyx, Sol Emeralds, Jeweled Sceptre, Time Stones, Preciousstones, Niggastones, Mean Bean Machine)
>>146438293>almost like it's being done out of defianceWhy does everything has to be a conspiracy with you guys?
>>146431049Like both names but preferred Nack in archie just for the low bar Nic sister.
>>146438914>saying Knuckles would never leave the Master Emerald unattended especially with Eggman and Metal Sonic present. Fair enough, but Gemerl's there. That's why he's there, to guard things.See what I mean by how Ian always presents things in the shittiest way? The "mandate" is obvious- guarding the Emerald is a duty Knuckles feels to his culture, he does not just go "well here keep an eye on this for a second" even if rationally that would be the smartest thing to do because it's not about rationality, it's about culture and duty. He doesn't keep the Master Emerald because it's a job, he does it almost more because it's a religious task. But Ian is unable to understand or accept this- he just sees the characters as pawns to move and so goes "ok but if someone else is there to guard it, Knuckles would accept that".
>>146438950>Because he was bored with that after the first time using itBullshit, how many times has he tried to get the emeralds? The ME is a power source for whatever scheme Eggman is hatching, not an end in itself.
>>146438991So you're saying Knuckles would let his friends die for his culture and duty.
>>146439002The master emerald itself, he’s only bothered once in Sonic 3, once in SA1 (for Chaos inside, not the ME itself), and once in that mobile game with onyx island. The ME has different powers than the other emeralds, usually he just goes for the chaos emeralds and doesn’t bother with that one
>>146439040He would at the very least be heavily conflicted about it, which you'd think would be zeroed in to milk for some interesting drama
>>146438942You say this but the Fang miniseries was one of the worst parts of IDW.
>>146439233anon, you're replying to a post that says "no multiple issues". are you unable to read?
>>146433957The guardian's real job is to keep immigration out.
>>146430313The meme doesn't even add anything if you're unaware of it.Less of this kind of reference, more of the kind on the following page, please.
>>146439233That's mostly because it sold itself on being the band getting back together but ended up being written specifically to burn the bridges between Fang and Bean/Bark.
>>146435147This issue had a character supervisor to keep everyone as on model as possible. It seems to have sucked all dynamic qualities out of the lineart. OP skipped the credits page.
>>146431822Colors isn't even a bad game, it's just weird.
>>146430570This isn't really a thing Knuckles actually does. What a weird premise.
>>146433890>"I'm insecure but I can do better"?The writers seem to struggle with writing other conflicts that don't change who the characters are.
This was a cute comic, and I enjoyed it. Glancing over the comics that might put me in the minority. Guess I don't hang out on /co/ enough.I've only just recently started reading the IDW Sonic stuff, as in, within the past few weeks. They're not groundbreaking, but they are heartwarming, which is something I could use right now.
>>146438914Isn't the answer to this to not have Sonic bark orders at his friends and either let Gemerl be impulsive or have Cream go there with Gemerl rushing after her despite the risk?This sounds really fucking stupid and like an excuse instead of owning "Ok, fair, Knuckles isn't stupid enough to trust Eggman and Metal standing right next to the Master Emerald." Like he's treating the feedback as irrational when he's the one who created the situation in the first place.
>>146439910This one's fine and people are being a bit ridiculous, sure. I think it's a bit lacking, but it's not bad.
>>146439605I hated it because it was pointless. Pariah was right when he says that IDW stories don’t have a theme or a message, no story illustrates that better than the Fang mini.
>>146434164Yeah. Ian grasps a lot of the fanbase and especially his fans are autistic, so he spells everything out and speaks definitively. Problem is he's often misunderstanding the feedback given to him. I think some of it is innocent, but he also clearly deflects blame and cultivates his image on purpose, and I find that really distasteful given his fans are too socially stunted to grasp what he's doing.
>>146439977>PariahDipshit who only grasps how to identify flaws and not how to assess or discuss strengths.
Wait.....there are people that cared about Superstars?
>>146440029Isn't that the guy who insists DIMPS Sonic Unleashed is good?
>>146440055No idea. I think that game's pretty decent, personally.
>>146439002>>146439137Off the top of my head>Sonic 3>Sonic Adventure (moreso for Chaos)>Briefly in Sonic Adventure 2 (forcing Knuckles to break it)>And Sonic Advance 3
>>146440055DIMPS Sonic Unleashed was praised upon release, anon. Of course, only the daytime stages- but then again, the same applies to main Unleashed.>>146440007I honestly start to think part of the answer is he himself is autistic, probably, and just is unable to understand "if I say this it'll cause trouble".With that said, I've noticed in recent episodes, when I see them on related videos and check them to see if there's any interesting questions, that his answers seem more straight and to the point, and even his co-host does less "hey hey hey sega sucks" jabs and jokes. I wonder if he finally realized the headaches he causes, or if someone from Sega contacted him and went "hey, stop".
>>146439544>The meme doesn't even add anything if you're unaware of it.More song lyrics, got it.
>>146439934>Isn't the answer to this to not have Sonic bark orders at his friends and either let Gemerl be impulsive or have Cream go there with Gemerl rushing after her despite the risk?That still leaves Knuckles not helping with the most crucial part of the plan to save the world.>Knuckles isn't stupid enough to trust Eggman and Metal standing right next to the Master EmeraldExcept that wasn't the intention. Sonic and Gemerl was right there to stop them if they tried anything.
>>146440527Better way to phrase it: he doesn't trust anyone else with protecting it from Eggman.Again, the problem arises from specifically gathering everyone at Angel Island and then sending Knuckles elsewhere. There are many, many other ways you can write your way out of this, but the core of the problem came from not thinking about this beforehand. Not the end of the world, but the end result wasn't great and passing it off as>SIIIIIGH, UNREASONABLE SEGA CHANGING THEIR MINDSinstead of>Someone in licensing/approvals realized this doesn't work right before the script was finalized, and I scrambled to fix it. Sorry, could have done it better with hindsight!
>>146438965Anger and autism, most likely.Like, duh, it's clearly not that. Their little arc got dragged out by the Fang mini, so pausing again this soon would be a bad call.
I don't understand why the recent game tried to pretend Knuckles was that burdened when he goes out so frequently. Instead of wasting our time, they should've done something else
>>146440636they could just shorten this dumbass boring lesbian arc and not have it last all the way until May of next year. If anything the main culprit is narcissism, they should know some of their ideas are fucking shit and this is one of them.
>>146440597>Better way to phrase it: he doesn't trust anyone else with protecting it from Eggman.The ME has been lost or broken under his watch every time. Rephrasing it doesn't change the fact that Knuckles almost let the world end because of his mandated autism.
>>146440674>Knuckles makes mistakes and is not logical.Yes. He's a character.He has a history of doing dumb shit. Characters are like that.Again, the way Ian wrote it wasn't great, but it's not the only way to handle "Knuckles doesn't leave the island to go fight Zeena." You're stuck on what we got instead of actually considering the writing process. Ian had plenty of avenues to occupy Knuckles and force Gemerl and Cream into a bad situation without ignoring Knuckles/making him go "SORRY GUYS, THE MASTER EMERALD IS MORE IMPORTANT" (which he thankfully didn't do).You're pulling the "it's fucked up Sonic can't weep for his dead children" argument here when the problem is putting the character in that situation to begin with.
>>146440664>NarcissismOr they're just bad at pacing.You're being really irrational and attributing malice in places where that's a big reach.
>>146434423I mean, I ain't gonna lie right now.Whisper has straight up better chemistry with Silver, which is fucking insane when you look at how she's side by side with Tangle and all.It's weird to say as a follow up, but I think the chemistry with Tangle WAS pretty good at the start, but has started to... degrade, if that's the word?
>>146438965Some of it is Shadowfags acting like pic related as of late. The other schizos just love to spew bullshit. FE, the supposed secret drama between Ian and Adam. It's just dumb.
>>146440759Criticising their personality is not irrationality. Evan's heard and received criticism of her overuse of the lesbian turds time after time again, but she continues to plague the comic with arcs surrounding them. It's not that she's bad at pacing, it's that she can't swallow the humble pill and admit people aren't interested in her shitty Lanolin fixation.
>>146440803Tangle helped Whisper when she finally broke.This somehow became Whisper perpetually breaking, which is terrible.
>>146440759Not malice, narcissism. They're so vain and up-their-own-asses they refuse to just write action fighting stories instead of stories about a lesbian dog's triggerwords
>>146440905There's a chasm between thinking someone writes bad comics and opinions on their character. Even if you don't think she implemented feedback correctly, she's been very respectful about it and clearly tries to improve (which is more than I can say about Ian or Danny). Her actions don't really come off as narcissistic, you're just stuck in your head, dude.
"uuuu Tangle I'm sad and gay and you triggered me by saying that word uuuuu"
>>146440947>and clearly tries to improveWHEN??? Fucking retardEvan the fatass piggy will never fuck you, simp
>>146440746>Yes. He's a character.>He has a history of doing dumb shit. Characters are like that.Characters also learn and grow, like trusting the people he's fought together to do something without needing to be the only one to do it. Willing to sacrifice something precious to them for others. Characters are like that, good ones anyway.>You're stuck on what we got instead of actually considering the writing process.Because it reveals the truth of the character. The process doesn't matter when the end result is the same: Knuckles would forsake his friends for the ME. You're stuck on trying to conceal that fact by tricking the audience but I'm not interested in that.
>>146440947>There's a chasm between thinking someone writes bad comics and opinions on their characterNo, there really isn't. Very often bad writers are held back by their own shitty personalities. It's virulent in the comic business.
>>146440969>Characters also learn and growme making every new tom and jerry cartoon boring because they've learned to not use their established flaws for comedy
>>146440990That is just objectively not true. Plenty of great people are terrible writers and complete scumbags can write good books. You sound fucking insane.
>>146441040I shit and piss my pants when Elmer gets fooled by Bugs' disguises.
>>146441047“You don’t write because you want to say something, you write because you have something to say.” - F. Scott FitzgeraldBut i doubt you’ve ever read any real books beforeI never said anything about being scumbags, i said held back by their shitty personalities, which has nothing to do with their morals. You sound fucking stupid.Only look as far as Bendis, who aged-up Jon Kent because his personality is being lazy and self-important, when he claimed he isn’t interested in writing a kid and doesn’t know how so completely changed him. And also attention-whoring, so took suggestion from social media troons to turn him gay so they would sing his praises.A writer’s writing is a reflection of their self, and if that self is lazy or spiteful or petty or stupid and vain it will and does most certainly cripple their ability to write.
>>146441040What a shit analogy. Sonic isn't a slapstick comedy, it's an action/adventure series and character development isn't a detriment to it. It also doesn't make sense because Knuckles stayed on the island doing nothing because of it which is obviously the more boring option.
I miss Julie-Su
>>146440803>Whisper has straight up better chemistry with SilverPfft, no they fucking don’t. UWUver is just a simp for Whisper even though it makes absolutely no sense. If Silver was around her he’d be playing Tangle’s role of being a nanny. Her character is a black hole that makes everyone worse.
>>146441384I guess you could say ____ __ ___
>>146438965Don't like a room of four people make these comics? Them just going "I do not care for the black hedgehog" isn't really a conspiracy.
>>146441384Whisper is the only character to canonically attempt to shiv somebody so she's cool in my book
>>146440947If someone has a normal character they would respect what the people like and what the people want when they write for someone else’s IP. If someone had a very egotistical character they would overlay that book with their own ego, like Evan now writing a bunch of girls crying about their feefees and triggerwords and clutch doing a heckin misinformation and spamming absolutely all of her shitty OCs instead of just doing Sonic and Tails beating up a big mech. Sonic and Tails barely spoke 1 line each last issue.It’s at least respectable when it’s your own series, like Stephen King writing every book about a depressed drunk druggie writer who wants to die and kills himself at the end. But when you’re hired into the role you should stop making it all about you and what you want.
>>146438965Because the comic isn't good, so there's nothing for us but to speculate on why it's bad. The arguments will continue until the product improves.
>>146441384>he’d be playing Tangle’s role of being a nannyThat’s kinda hot
>>146441384>character is a black hole that makes everyone worseBut enough about Silver...
>>146441416>Don't like a room of four people make these comics?No? The comic is overseen by editors and both branches of Sega.
>>146441470>Waaaahhhhh Silver i tried to get on the playpen but Cream said no adults allowed i’m heckin TRIGGEREDDD!!!>Waaaahhhhh Silver i wanted the red megaman toy but Cream wouldn’t give it to me so i punched her in the face but she still won’t give me the red megaman toy tell her to stop it or i’ll be TRIGGEREDDD!!!>Waaaahhhhh Silver i tried to shoot Cream because she’s the imposter from amongus but i missed and shot Vanilla now everybody is discriminating against me i’m heckin TRIGGEREDDD!!!
>>146441134>But i doubt you’ve ever read any real books beforeI dunno dude, is Childhood's End any good? Does Water Margin count? Can I point at Pratchett or is that too childish compared to Fitzgerald?Fuck off. The idea that someone is shitty because they're a bad writer, ESPECIALLY when it's being fueled by a pretentious pseudointellectual who drops quotes in a Sonic the Hedgehog thread and quibbles over semantics, is absolutely ridiculous. Get the hell over yourself. If you don't like her as a person, criticize her actual words and deeds, or at the very least the themes and ideas of her work, not "she's a narcissist because she uses characters she didn't even create more then I would like." Holy shit.
>>146440950Who still thinks triggerwords are a thing in 2024, much less something to write a sonic storyline abouf? I thought we mocked that idea to extinction in 2016
>>146441792>fueledfielded, im retarded
>>146440877I think some twitter autists like Laviarray have been shitting threads up lately, too.
>>146441831What storyline is about triggerwords?
>>146442400Stop ruining my butthurt
>>146438914How does he not realize that are fucking with him? He knows Arzest didn't have to deal with any of this shit, right? They didn't even come up with an excuse in Prime.Do they literally keep Ian around just too see how far they can get while messing with him?
>>146440913That might be it. That might be why I'm like "dude, this ain't hitting like before." Which is sad cause earlier on, it WAS fun! It was nice. Now it just feels kind of bleh.>>146441384It would objectively be better than the current state of Tangle and Whisper. They seem to have fun around each other, and their synergy ain't half bad either. I'd rather just have it be two retards fumbling to the truth rather than all this.(I might still be a bit upset at that Diamond Cutters volume that led to Silver being ousted from the Diamond Cutters as well as the Restoration, and just abandoned. I might alternatively just be upset with Lanolin, I've been trying to work how I've felt about that whole thing for a hot minute.)
>>146442551>He knows Arzest didn't have to deal with any of this shit, right?How would you know? We know very little of the behind the scenes stuff on it.
>>146430384>AWWW WHAT IFA HE WAS CARRED EGGUMAN INSTEAD OF LOBOTNIK??? SONIC RIVES ON EARTH, NOTA MOBIUSbravo nippon
>>146442582We know enough to know Ian Flynn isn't capable of handling it and he should be let go for his failure.
>>146442698He clearly is since he keeps getting work from them.
>>146442712And the work he's putting out is awful. FIRE HIM. WHY THE FUCK DO WE HAVE TO BE STUCK WITH YOU!?!?!?! WHY CAN'T WE HAVE BOLLERS BACK?!?!
>>146442753>And the work he's putting out is awful.Sega and the majority of the fanbase don't agree.>WHY CAN'T WE HAVE BOLLERS BACK?!?!Because he doesn't care about Sonic.
>>146442582I mean they used knuckles without having to worry about the ME.The results are self evident.
>>146442824Because the game barely has a story, that's not the same as in the comic.
>>146442753Fuck Bollers! I want Benny Lee back!
>>146442400The one where Whisper is triggered because Tangle suggested naming their team The Diamondcutters.
>>146442847Knuckles barely has a story in the comic. He's just there sometimes.
>>146442863That got resolved in like one issue though. Not really a storyline.
>>146431805It's really fucking annoying. SA1, SA2, and Heroes followed a clear arc where he was done being lonely and liked getting out there with his amigos Sonic and Tails once in a while. The gay IDW writers just have absolutely no love of Knuckles and aren't interested in him at all, they even replaced him with fucking Amy in the Sonic Riders story.
>>146442863>>146442975It's also not getting "triggered" in any meaningful way. Tangle wanted to name themselves after Whispers murdered friends, it's not "triggered" for Whisper to find that insensitive.
>>146442551Ian is a leftover from Archie. You know, the giant fucking mess created by Sega of America's lack of oversight? Of anything, Sega of Japan have been too nice to him.Meanwhile, the Shadow manga is pure awesomeness.
>>146443052He’s doing his fucking job. The current race has nothing to do with him.
>>146442824>sega of japan>allowing a japanese game company to do something that an american comic isn't allowed to do
>>146430411Another non-character saved by Ian Flynn. Give this guy a medal.
>>146443052> SA1, SA2, and Heroes followed a clear arc where he was done being lonely and liked getting out there with his amigos Sonic and Tails once in a while.>SA1: Spends most of the game hunting down the emerald shards. Crosses paths with Sonic twice (once due to Eggman tricking him, another arriving in time for Chaos 6's runback).>SA2: Spends most of the game isolated from the main plot due to hunting down the emerald shards. Joins the gang long enough to find the keys to Eggman's lair before leaving to find the remaining emerald shards and then joining in stopping the ARK.>Sonic Heroes: Knuckles is with Tails who has the letter with Eggman's ultimatum.Maybe I'm missing something, and I'm not saying he should be glued to the ME 24/7 (he is guardian of the entire island after all), but I don't really get that vibe. Both times Knuckles was involved in the Adventure games, he was primarily rebuilding the ME.
>>146442975>>146443059She wants to name them that as an obvious way of honoring their memory.Noone but an obese twittertroon sjw would possibly think it’s a reasonable response to seethe at Tangle and act like she’s literally Hitler not even worthy of you speaking to her and act like Tangle just shot you and tried to eat your kids for three issues until she breaks down crying and starts grovelling at your feet for forgiveness. You would just voice that you take issue with it and be able to understand it obviously wasn’t done with bad intentions.You know, like a normal fucking person? But Evan thinks this is how normal people act because just like Whisper she’s an sjw bitch who thinks triggerwords are an actual thing. They’re not. They’re fucking words, and getting offended that people used a word you don’t like, even in a good or well-meaning way, is peak sjw retardation. You should be beheaded for being this much of a brainrotten simp you would get offended at fucking words, go back to twitter you tranny.
>>146442824Anon, you realize the demand we're complaining about wouldn't exist if Ian didn't put Knuckles and Eggman on Angel Island, right?
“UUUUU Tangle you said the bad word I’m gonna give you the silent treatment now until you apologise for offending me and being a bigot uuuUUuuUuUUu”
>>146443181For one thing, Ian wrote that part of the arc, not Evan. Two, it didn't take 3 issues, the conflict took 2 issues to resolve. Three, Whisper apologized to Tangle for overreacting to it.
>>146441288> it's an action/adventure series and character development isn't a detriment to it.I'd argue the series (the games anyway) doesn't really revolve around the idea of these characters growing and changing a bucnh; less so back in the classics and Adventure/4Kids era. Plus it's always had elements of slapstick and the like to it; To call it strictly action/adventure isn't entirely accurate, at least compared to something like Archie. The Games have much more in common with something like DragonBall or One Piece; where outside of big explicit moments, the main cast aren't going to develop that much. Knuckles had his change in 3 and a bit in Adventure/2, but that's probably the extent of that.
>>146443417Facts don't matter, some anons have decided to make bitching about this their personality.
>>146443621>Plus it's always had elements of slapstick and the like to it"Elements" being the key word here. Even the classic games weren't slapstick comedies, despite what Mania Adventures may have led people to believe. There's a reason why the second Sonic movie trailers got so much hype because it was treating Knuckles seriously instead of as a joke.
>>146440643Being burdened is what Knuckles' character is supposed to be like. Any instance where that was contradicted is not meant to be considered an accurate representation of the character.
>>146439605You can tell by the way it was written that Ian was bitter and didn't want to do it. He liked writing them.
>>146441831Everything we thought we mocked to extinction in 2016 became the cultural norm. It's insane how easy people are manipulated when you get some celebrities to say it.
>>146444093Yeah, that's how we keep getting meme presidents.
