Will Barbara's movie ever be released?Will Steph ever be relevant again?Will Cass' new series last more than 20 issues?Will someone pretend to care about Bette Kane in this thread?Tune in to find out!
>>146432273Hey, I love Bette! I think Cass will get at least 18 issues. Tate is bragging about huge orders for issue 1, and he's got Absolute energy in his sails, so maybe it'll last 24.As for Steph. I believe in her.
>>146432699DC needs to embrace Bette as a type-A giga Stacy.
>>146432273Lucky Dick
>>146432820Interesting idea. They could try for a Regina George type story. With a good writer and hot artist, they could get a villain style book going.
>>146432273The immense willpower Steph showed during this moment was incredible. Most people would have committed a hate crime.
>>146433012Evangelicals are not people.
Cass' new series had better go past 20 issues, at the rate it's going, we'll be lucky if anything actually happens in that time.
>>146433259you misspelled progressives>>146433268how many issues are out? I thought just one?
>>146432273Bat-dykes
>>146433012This is absolutely brutal. Not even Spider-man gets cucked this bad
>>146433306One of reddit's favorite ships btw
>>146433327reddit and not tumblr?
>>146433340Tumblr has been dead for years anon. But reddit unironically ships KonTim and CassSteph.
>>146433327>>146433374dude livejournal was shipping them before 4chan was even a thing. I started shipping them in middleschool and now I'm a boomer. you are a nobody to me. Reddit accusations mean nothing. You are not invoking some sacred protection spell.
>>146433418That's nice reddit.
>>146433451I've got fics and art saved from before you were popping pimples
>>146432273>Will someone pretend to care about Bette Kane in this thread?I volunteer
>>146432273Maps >>>>>>>>>
>>146432273I have absolutely no faith in DC anymore. I really should have called it quits with the New 52, but like an abused housewife, I stayed. Imagine a near decade of average to mediocre, that's what we've gotten.
>>146432844Nah, she's straight up a hero and great person, she just effortlessly mogs everyone in some way.>>146433012>The only thing I hate more than having to play nice to Bernard and Tim's faces is how wet I get when I think about them fucking.
>>The only thing I hate more than having to play nice to Bernard and Tim's faces is how wet I get when I think about them fucking.
>>146433537Each day passing where Maps isn’t trained by Bruce, Cass, Steph or anyone in the Batfam is a day DC wasted.Someone got to prepare the latest Robin against the scum and villains of this world! There could be clowns armed with crowbars! Black masked crime lords! Sticks thrown by teamkilling fucktards!
>>146433799Yes, yes, how DARE anyone make a joke about this.
Hey new thread, and its a group one now>>146432273Probably notProbably! It depends more on other thing.Id say depends on the sales, the first issue sold rather wellPeople like bette here.>>146433327Huh?? Ill be honest seems like the opposite, not a lot of content of it there relative to twitter/tumblr and seems to get less traction there.>>146433374Again, not really. Well there's defintely people that do it, but it doesnt get that much traction there.
Ill post some of the timsteph comms since its actually thread appropiate here :)
>>146434229>Again, not really. Well there's defintely people that do it, but it doesnt get that much traction there.Who are you kidding, they'll downvote anyone who doesn't adhere to their gay ships
>>146434306Idk, they generally seem to really like tim/steph if anything.
>>146434326Oh right, they actually think heterosexual readers care about gay characters like Tim. That's even worse.
>>146434306The only gay Tim ship anyone gives a damn about is Kon, and most of those know it is never going to happen.
>>146434352People just generally like tim and steph but okay.
>>146434400All that Tim has left are bisexual men who desperately seek validation through comic books.
>>146434425You keep saying that, but it doesnt seem to be the case, there's plenty of people who like tim/steph who still clearly do lol.
>>146432843
>>146432273I don't like them as a couple at all. They should just be friends.
>>146433306So tired of this.
>>146434570Same
>>146434579Of fanart? Ok.
>>146434525I think it's really amusing how this backup has stuck around so hard.
>>146434591I dont think sketch made it for that? Like this one is way older.Also thread jokes are like that. (I dont find it super funny, but whatever stones and glass houses).
>>146434608I know, I couldn't find the ones that were specific to that backup, but it comes up a lot. Compared to nearly everything that happened in Batgirls by the same writer, it's just kind of interesting what gets remembered and what is forgotten. (Also the Steph fights vampires backup - but I think that's because the shoulder pads made dravots happy and so we got a good chunk of fanart from it)
>>146434626Being fair, i feel we got art of batgirls early on, dravots really liked corona's style (which is good, i agree).
>>146432273Since babs at one time or another housed or raised these girls, how do you think she'd feel about her "daughters" being so "close"?
>>146434733>Well at least none of them are getting pregnant.
>>146432273>Will Steph ever be relevant again?Hard to say, but she got relegated to a footnote in the latest character guide while Babs and Cass had their own unique entries, so I’m not going to be holding my breath.>Will someone pretend to care about Bette Kane in this thread?Yes. Happy we got some crumbs with that card.
>>146432273
>>146432273>Will Cass' new series last more than 20 issues?I hope so. It was pretty solid. I bought the digital version. Her original book lasted a good while and probably only got canned for editorial reasons.
>>146434754They'll get pregnant if that's what "daddy" wants>>146434755Sadly Steph really has no way to get into the main stories and shows to get attention outside of camos.
>>146434733Steph was never really hre daugther figure. Cass was tho.
>>146434525Imagine the neighbors' reaction. Imagine when Rose shows up to visit.
>>146434899I meant more like she took on a lot of the training and more older sister/mom vibes on the other batgirls helping them through stuff and giving them places to stay etc.
Imagine being the toilet at the Batgirls hideout
>>146434962Pretty hot stuff to sweaty barefoot ex assassins turned heroines wrestling for dominance
>>146435005She was def a mom figure to cass, but steph had her mom, where babs was more the older stister type.
>>146435093True but I mean isn't steph's mom dead now? Also older sister but I'm sure steph and cass both call babs mommy kek
>>146435228>True but I mean isn't steph's mom dead now?No? Not sure where you got that idea.Cluemaster was dead but got brought back.
>>146435236I don't pay much attention to steph honestly, she kind of just appears and I swore she was homeless for a while so I assumed they killed her mom or retconned her into being a criminal too.
Oh also there's a brand new funny kon outfit..so i gotta get something with it and cass's new hot one>>146435228Nope she's still alive.
>>146435322So Steph has been homeless twice - first when she ran away from home in Jon Lewis's run, second in Batman Eternal when her mom helped her dad and she had to escape. Steph's mom hasn't really been seen since 2015, sadly.
>>146435364Ah welp guess I barely remember her besides her advice with the whole deadbeat baby arc.>>146435420I thought you said steph for a second I was like no way 2015. But yeah steph is barely relevant so her mom is super irrelevant.
>>146435536She was pretty present in steph's batgirl run, was when she was really trying to be a mom.And i mean steph has had books since then like she was a main character in two runs.
>>146434362It doesn't need to happen considering how far more people read TimKon smut than they do the actual comics.
>>146435991So, it's my understanding that most comics from the big 2 are running between 15-20,000 to 200,000 (for a monster Absolute Batman style hit). Are we really getting that many hits on AO3 and tumblr for smut?
>>146436037With a quick glance at AO3 I've found a Tim/male OC piece that's been viewed 1400 times. While AO3's search function is kinda garbage, from what I can gather there are plenty of smut fics that if they were a comic would be in the top 100 assuming view=sale. And that's just pure smut.
>>146436037>>146436256There are stories with DC characters on AO3 with millions of hits. Tumblr seems to be kind of dead but rumor has it that several NSFW artists on Twitter got cease and desist letters from DC because their content was more popular than what DC was putting out and came to be what dominated the search algorithms.
>>146436038Hot steph
>>146435624Yeah but my point was more she just isn't around a lot because most of stephs appearances are cameos in cass' books mostly.Also random off track topic, but as the cass supboy guy. How do you cope with their constant differing ages? Like when she's in her early teens but he's in his 20s or when he's fresh clone in his early teens and cass is a time tested batgirl assassin who trains damien who would be that connors age.
>>146436626> Like when she's in her early teens but he's in his 20sThis has never happened?
>>146432273Lesbians
>>146433553Same here lmao. Sunk cost fallacy is a bitch.
Still no absolute debut
Bump
>>146436323Seems fake but who knows.
>>146436626Most of Steph's appearances are in Robin, not Batgirl.
>>1464362561400 is way less than even 15,000 though.>>146436323Stories get millions of hits sometimes, but specifically Tim and male romance? I don't think so. As for the artists cease and desist...er, any specifics? That's the problem I am pointing at - there js so much rumor and assumption in these arguments.
>>146432273>Will Cass' new series last more than 20 issues?Couldn't find any proper storytime thread, and haven't scrolled a BG one in a while, so what's been the general receptions lads?Strong enough first issue, I thought. Lots of the characterization of Cass as a bastard little shit I've missed from her original solo; got a good laugh out of her trying to ditch Shiva and taking cheap shots mid-teamup.Definitely the most I've enjoyed mommy Shiva as a concept... basically ever. Feels like the first attempt to really nail keeping their mutual respect for each other as warriors and rivals at the forefront. I'll be glad if this is the kind of dynamic maintained going forward.
>>146433537superior to who? All of them? That's a no from me
>>146440530Same yeah
>>146432273Recs for steph?
>>146442570She was mostly a supporting character in Robin Vol. 2 and Batgirl Vol. 1 until she got her own series. You can also read War Drums and War Games if you want, but that storyline was not nearly as well received as Bryan Q. Miller's run.
>>146442570anal
what if cass and steph had sex
>>146443790They have. They don’t consider it “sex” though. They call is massaging each other.
>>146440530I think he means that Maps is hanging out on the right way out of the picture, you got to squint really hard to hallucinate it
>>146443803>Babs wonders why they're buying so much baby oil
>>146443843kek
>>1464401431400 is for Tim and an OC. For Tim and actual DC characters try between 5x-20x that number. Pure Batfamily polycule smut is around 40k. You're missing the forest for the trees, smut is a much, much larger market than comics when completely fungible pornfics are capable of hitting comic book sales figures on a much faster schedule with less editing and zero quality control.
>>146434733Proud.
>>146444443Can't really compare fics with zero barrier to entry to paid comics. you'd have to at least find out how many people are pirating them.
>>146445803Abs yum
>>146436038>>146433306Is it the same artist.
CassCain and Conner has to be one of the most forced ships on this subreddit
>>146446051It's just one person obsessed with it. Most people like (or are at least familiar with) Conner's love interests being Wonder Girl or that martian girl from the cartoon...or Tim for the fujos.
>>146446051>this subredditLol>>146446492The fact one guy raised it so much is impressive. And I've seen it talked about
>>146446492TOCA is an absolute mad lad for buying so much art of his ship that people think it's more popular than it actually is.
>>146445803It's a poor direct comparison for multiple reasons but is indicative enough that there exists a demand enough that thousands of people are willing to search for it.
>>146446492Is it really that rare? Miss Martian has the cartoon going for her and Wonder Girl has a couple years of canon ship, but M'Gann's a non-entity outside YJ and carries a decent sized hatedom within it while Cassie is a non-entity in adaptations and no real draw or fanbase of her own in canon.
>>146440143Playing around with the different tags on AO3 and filtering by hits there are quite a few Tim slashfics with Conner, Jason or Dick that have hundreds of thousands of views.>>146445803Very few people read comics, even when taking piracy into consideration. People would much rather play the videos games or watch the cartoons, movies and television shows.
>>146446572It's the same logic as the guy who got ship art with Charlie from Hazbin hotel. Gamed the system to get free art of himself and Charlie.
Reminder that gookgirl and used goods whore are dismal fucking failures with no rogues they don't steal from Batman, no notable stories, a supporting cast they need to steal from Batman, and zero sales. They utterly failed to surpass Babs in any way and have consistently proven to be flops. Gookgirl's movie will kill the DCU.
>>146446758Dat ass tho
>>146446758Babs has only one good story and it's the one where she stops being Batgirl.
>>146446830And yet she's still the #1 search result for batgirl.
>>146446895Which is peculiar, because she was only ever interesting when she had wheels.
>>146446916Secondary gookgirl detected.
>>146446551>>146446572People aren't talking the ship because they like it but rather about how someone would spend so much money trying to push it. If you want it that bad become a writer for DC.>>146446671It's rare amongst Conner's fans. I don't think the majority of them even know who Cass is. The ship seems to be confined exclusively to Cass' fans.
>>146447062Hey look, I'm holding all the best Babs hands in my hands.
>>146447172*Babs stories
Why does DC make a point to present Steph as a complete idiot compared to Cass?
>>146447314They dont.
>>146447128Ask him idk.
>>146447609They do.
We were robbed...
I see Domino Dare Doll has graced us with their presence.
riddler is best girl
>>146447172This but gookgirl and used goods whore stories
>>146448693Gookgirl faggots can't even make up good schizo names.....
>>146449311I'm a Steph fan. I eagerly await your incredibly misogynistic insult to replace your incredibly racist insult.And if you don't want to be lumped in with the asinine Babs fans on reddit, don't be asinine. No one says Steph or Cass have to be your favorite, but you're the one insisting on being a racist and misogynist asshole about it.
>>146433012post the fanart, you know which one
>>146449415there's two, actually.
>>146449415
>>146449415And the other one!
>>146448043For sure
>>146447128Makes sense, the issues that spawned the ship are from Cass' book.
>>146449504>>146449524>>146449553Kino.
I miss TimSteph. And I always wanted a book with just the 90s kids Tim, Steph and Cass doing bat things and hanging out
>>146449553>>146449652Imagine being Bernard during that issue and finding out that your new boyfriend didn't have a mutual breakup with his ex to explore his sexuality and instead ghosted her and now he's expecting you two to meet and play nice but you're sitting there every muscle locked tight and ready to dive out the window when she goes full hate crime. And the worst part is you get it, you really fucking do.
>>146440159>Couldn't find any proper storytime thread, and haven't scrolled a BG one in a while, so what's been the general receptions lads?I think most people are in the "wait and see" mode. The first issue looked okay, but it had almost no story in it, and what little there was was a recap of cass/shiva dynamics which the long-time fans already know inside out. So basically we're waiting for it to get going, and that might take a couple issues.
Batman comics went to shit with NML and never really course corrected afterwards.
>>146449792We got burned by Batgirls pretty hard.
>>146449875Even based on the first issue alone it's pretty clear this isn't going to have the same problems Batgirls had.
>>146449868Fuck you, NML was the single best event DC ever did with the arguable exception of the original Crisis.
Huh. I just noticed Tate Brombal (the writer of BG 2024) has protected his tweets. They used to be public until a few days ago. Wonder what's up with that.
February issue variant cover
>>146450279Least if everything else about this book somehow goes wrong, we got some real bitching Cass covers out of it already.
>>146450441Sick cover.
Nudists
>>146433491Based Andy Price art. I remember he draw Barbara x Bette, as well as his very specific fetishes of Kathy spanking Bette with a hairbrush and Diana doing the same to Donna.
I miss Babs
>>146432699>I think Cass will get at least 18 issuesShe’d only need 10 to be tied back up with Babs for total ongoing issues. Not a competition, but I do gotta sensibly chuckle at Dan’s decade spent building Babs’ lead being undone this fast.Steph, uh… maybe she’ll break 50 one day.
>>146449662Tim is gay now, GAY, THE ROBIN GAY, that will never change because DC would be accused of homophobia.
>>146432843he doesn't wait, he goes up
>>146452370What are you talking about?
>>146452543He's comparing solo issue counts like a clown.The only Robin that actually matters has never once had a self-titled Robin solo book. Curious...
>>146452744The one everyone prefers as Nightwing, you mean? Mysterious, that.
>>146452744That’s because he was too busy slumming it up with a much of C-listers.
>>146449662Based
