>two more spinoffs (Side Quests and BMO), a movie, and F&C S2 in the worksIt's funny to me that Adventure Time is still going and has far outlived all the shows that were started by people who spun off the AT crew. What's the secret to its longevity?
>>146433054Modern viewers reluctance to watch anything that doesnt belong to an already established property.
>>146433054Not sure but has there ever been another sort of hydra case of continuation. Like it feels like the show just multiplied into tons of different shows once it died, like how a hydra grows more heads once one is cut off
>>146433054What the fuck is side quests? They don't have any main quests.
>>146433143>it feels like the show just multiplied into tons of different shows once it diedSince the end of the main show, there has been the S11 comics, Olivia Olson's Marcy & Simon comic, a Marceline pirate graphic novel, the Distant Lands specials, and the latest is F&C.
>>146433233It's a kids' series that's a flashback to young Finn with no story stuff and just episodic adventures. The BMO one is a preschool show about BMO with new friends.I think the goal is diversifying with the F&C series for old adult fans, the Side Quests for the audience the original show targeted at first, and Heyo BMO as their baby show.
>>146433054>Clarence>Steven Universe >Mighty Magiswords >OK KO>MaoMao>Summer Camp IslandThey're all either the type of show that even kids hated, doesn't click with kids but adults love, or is just so limited by itself that it can't really go on much further.
>>146433480>Steven Universethe funny thing about that one is that I'm pretty sure /co/ liked Adventure Time's last seasons more than Steven Universe's fanbase liked their show's last seasonsit was such a hot mess
>>146433054It throws you right into the action, not just characters beating each other up at the beginning (like Mao Mao) but knows to put the inciting incident for the story of the episode very close to the beginning so you have a reason to watch, unlike some shows (such as Mao Mao) and has a unique style of surrealist humor instead of heavily relying on irony that detracts from the theme of the episode and entire premise of the show (like Mao Mao) and has an expansive world with a system of rules that makes it iconic, instead of taking Anime and shrinking it to one town (like Mao Mao).
>>146433054Cn banking on it saving their ass back then (granted the 08/09 era is overhated it’s main issue was just cn real being shit and their original shows being Underplayed as hell like shit like billy and Mandy Ed edd n eddy and fosters were gone from the line up half the time he’ll chowder and flapjack were basically fighting for relevance but George of the jungle chop sooky chooks total drama island (and action) and Johnny test aired several times through the day) but to get back on topic cn basically attributes all their success in 2010 to adventure time and regular show and gumball so essentially their shows from like summer 2011-early 2014
Adventure Time is closer to Dexter's Lab than to modern day.
>>146433925The time between the 2007 Boston bomb scare and the airing of Adventure Time and Regular Show was only 3 years.
>>146433960I know people were acting like it was over for cn that entire time though (hell even up to like fall 2010 people weren’t super confident about cns quality) also I’m an anon that was born in 2003 so o have no memory of pre bomb scare cn at all (or anything before like December 2007
>>146433298Too bad everything that came out after it ended is non canon and mean spirited and bad...
>>146433942it is, isn't it?
>>146433054Adventure Time just lends itself to endless storytelling opportunities. It's really impressive to see just how much can be mined out of its setting and premise. Also, saying AT is "still going" ignores the fact that it was cancelled and had been losing popularity before getting revived with specials and spin-offs. I think allowing the franchise to further expand its world and reinvent itself also helps with its continued popularity. Compare it to other reboots/revivals that just try to do more of the same.
>>146433738i feel like you have a vendetta over a promising show
>>146434924Fionna and Cake isn't even really a spin-off and is more of a direct sequel tho
>>146433925Total Drama is popular
>>146433054it's got an interesting world and timeline
I understand it's not to everyone's liking, but I personally liked Pen's new adultswim pilot: https://youtu.be/THut0DHFkaY It's charming
Cartoon Network's flagship show during what most people view as the Network's pic
>>146434924>I think allowing the franchise to further expand its world and reinvent itself also helps with its continued popularity That's one thing I appreciate about the upcoming King of the Hill revival. Even though I REALLY would prefer the show not come back at all, it's nice that they actually moved forward with a permanent time-skip. That's new territory for a long-running animated sitcom, so I imagine it must've taken some convincing for Hulu to approve of the writers' vision.
ALGEBRAIC!
>>146437168>upcoming King of the Hill revivallooking into this has led me down a rabbit hole about the weirdness around Luanne's VA, her husband, and their deaths
>>146433054Adventure Time is the hot ticket for Californians to push their shitty politics and "I wish I were in an anime right now :(" into a popular cartoon that can be easily regurgitated ad naseum, hence the selling out to multiple spinoffs.
>>146433054Desperately failed attempt to keep pushing a show that was outed for child homosexuality indoctrination and hetero male boy demoralization. Big game of aversion therapy to turn children faggots trans and boys in to self hating cowards.CN is dead and the IP is going to be openly hated by the coming anti-woke backlash. It won't be as bad as Steven universe will get it though.
>>146437509This shows insistence on "lore", open hatred of the lead, and deeply disturbed objectively evil characters being portrayed as good or blameless stripped away and all hope of this show being a simple child friemdly zombie show,Even the cn appropriate audience sensed how disturbed the people who created it are and distanced themselves from it. >>146437485Murphy went to the same"trainer" as Kanye and Ellen "Elliot" page. We all heard the voice recording he sent to ye and we all see what's happened to Ellie. Also ,any of his clients are corpses. I can't say anymore.
>>146437430>that TUMMY https://youtu.be/JZYJ_6Xo4-E
>>146440062Fionna tum is to be treasured
>>146433054The secret is nostalgia by the loser millennials that watched this show back then, fuck even the original show got cancelled early because kids preferred to watch TTGO over some pretentious arc about Candy Mengele and her family
>>146441397The show was cocaine to kids for the first 5 seasons. CN has never made and likely never will make a show that rivals its draw, all they can really do is undo the damage from the second half of the show
>>146441397>cancelled early>lasted 10 seasons and was a big enough draw to continue to milk it after
>>146441397People complain about Teen Titans Go because it's goofy and childish and off the wall, but at least it can tell a coherent plot every episode, which is actually why it worked. It had good fundamentals under all those gags. Adventure Time told stories in an alternate way, but it seems like a lot of shows trying to copy that AT resorted to making random events happen on screen to fill 11 minutes of time in the tone they wanted, and when pressed they're like "But kids like Anime and Anime has slice of life sometimes".
>>146441563Do you have any reading comprehension?I was referring specifically to the last season I wouldn't brag about getting more slop content in age of the IPocaplypse, even Regular Show is getting more content and that one had an actual finale
you ever think about how different things would be if Nick picked it up?
>>146443010Not really. Knowing Nick, it'd probably be cancelled after the first season. Maybe it would have had more foot jokes.
>>146443560not the showthe whole landscape of American animation
>>146433054lack of competition
>>146443935>Man, Flapjack really went downhill after JG Quintel left to make Regular Show. The first 3 seasons were good, but by season 5 it's just not even the same show anymore
>>146433054Warner being to incompetent to use it's IPs right so they just fall back on the one they remember.
>>146441920TTGo struggles to break 120k views anon, it really shouldn't be used as a gold standard.
>>146433054It's actually good, unlike SU and all the other derivative trash it spawned, no matter how much self-insertfags on this board want to BAWWWW about it.
>>146441397Yeah sure buddy. Kids totally watch your shitty cape shit series.
>>146444541>0.09holy shit
>>146443010I don't wanna think about it. Nick would've fucked it up so bad. We are living in the blessed timeline
>>146435015It's both.
>>146446485Nick would probably have Making Fiends-ed it
>>146444541I know it was literally 10+ years ago but pretty crazy to see shows drop from like 5 million views to these numbers.
>>146433054>a movieReally?
>>146444541Zamn.... ATfags got cucked by zat?
>>146445165That's what FOP new wish premiered at
>>146448508Yes. Rebecca Sugar and Patrick McHale are working on it. They just can't escape kek.
>>146445165Cable is dead. It's not any one show's fault.
>>146434924Pretty much this. No kind of story or character feels out of place. It's a catch-all setting
>>146434924I hate spinoffs/reboots as a rule, but I respect how AT has handled it (so far). F+C is a continuation, but also a distinct thing with it's own look/feel. Side Quests is disappointing because that is just a blatant regurgitation of the original show. Maybe it'll be good, idk, but conceptually it's fucking lame. I'm more intrigued by the baby BMO show.
>>146433925I liked destroy build destroy
>>146434932Vendetta against a promising show (like Mao Mao)?
>>146437592>CN is dead and the IP is going to be openly hated by the coming anti-woke backlash. It won't be as bad as Steven universe will get it though.In your dreams dumbfuck stupid hillbilly, After trump and his zionist admin is done turning this country into rightwing venezuela in 3 years, the hard left is gonna come stronger than ever. You guys don't ever do anything besides destroy stuff out of spite. You can't build civilization on that
>>146451136I'm torn on Side Quests because I love classic Adventure Time, but that also died 12+ years ago and I have little faith that this new thing will come close to capturing the old feel of it. The mere fact that Jeremy Shada isn't a kid alone already means it won't feel the same. And you are right that they're just treading new ground- but it will be sort of interesting to see the first form of a reboot for AT. May be the start of a decade long thing depending on how long they're gonna extend this franchise. The new BMO thing seems like it's gonna be boring though, unless they can make it like Bluey or something to that quality a show for literal babies will be hard to make interesting to us pathetic adult cartoon nerds.
>>146433054I think part of it is just sunk cost fallacy and the feeling that if it fades once from the public eye, it will never be able to reclaim past glory. The show had mega-hit potential around the early 2010s. It didn't quite distinguish itself enough to truly enter that Spongebob, FOP, or even Phineas and Ferb conversation (I blame the status quo shit around Too Young.... there is a reason why this show started flopping after Gravity Falls took over then, people were sick of Butch Hartman tier status quos, you didn't need a "lore show" just do better character building), but its still the biggest thing CN had since the Powerpuff Girls fell apart. Rather than repeat the mistake they made with PPG, where they allow it to wither and die on the vine after one failure of a movie, they keep it alive in the public consciousness by churning out increasingly sloppish spinoffs and follow ups. It's a strategy that has worked semi-well for Nickelodeon... the Patrick Show and A New Wish were pretty successful, everything else rebooted not so much, and Disney is currently realizing that Hirsch is never going to stop being insane enough to bring back so they're relying on Povenmire to save them. But it all goes back to companies relying on the Redditbob success formula and it's never coming back.
>>146433054>What's the secret to its longevity?Being good
>>146451443wtf are you talking about, the show WAS a mega-hit, bigger than Phineas and Ferb at its peak. >show started flopping after Gravity Falls took over then??? 2012-2014 was THE peak popularity of the show, during seasons 4-5. Blaming Too Young makes zero fucking sense.
>>146451449lmao
>>146451466Lil bro, fucking TUFF PUppy got higher ratings than this shit in its "mega hit" daysdon't confuse being popular on /co/ or the internet with being popular in real life... same reason kamala lost
>>146451466>mega-hitkekaroo
>>146451466>most viewed PnF episode>10 million>most viewed AT episode>3.5 million
>>146451494ratings are a crude metric when discussing the popularity of adventure time. It was popular with older demos than CN was targeting i.e. people who weren't tuning in to watch kids' cable. This was a problem for CN because they couldn't fully capitalise on the audience they had, which is why later on episodes were put up on their website and itunes BEFORE they aired. The cultural impact of adventure time was massive. Don't even try to argue TUFF Puppy was actually more popular in "reality." That's retarded. Fionna and Cake was number 1 on Max for the entirety of its run. That kind of staying power in the public consciousness THIRTEEN YEARS after the show aired, is not possible if the show weren't very popular at one point in time.
>>146433054I'm surprised there haven't been any more art books. The first one only covered the first five or six seasons, and it's been out of print for a long time.
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>>146451530>its a Joker has reality warping powers issueKek.
