Why aren't we seeing a revival of traditional fantasy-genre cartoons? DnD is more popular than ever and there's a lot of success in video games and anime within the genre right now. The iron seems hot.
>>146445078Yeah, we sure need another brown dyke show. Don't get me wrong, I hate isekai too.
The talent doesn’t have the money and the money doesn’t want to pay the talent.
>>146445078Because modern Western fantasy is mostly self irritating subversions. Like it's stuff that's based on DND agacent material rather than actual fantasy primary sources.
Because writing is half the battle and as >>146445370 and >>146445264 point out there's nothing genuine about today's crop of shit writers who just want to make everything predictably subversive.
>>146445264I think with things like Baldurs Gate anf Wrath of the Righteous entering public consciousness. We'll see a rise in cool fantasy concepts. An example in Bg3 is aliens fighting demons
>>146445413When I heard and watched it first hand that they wanted to turn Sauron into an anti-hero in rings of power show I just gave up hope for anything relating the fantasy genre at this point.
>>146445413This is a simple matter of finding the right writers, so where are they?
>>146445571Ok, where are you gonna find them?
>>146445078>DnD is more popular than ever???thats the warhammer fantasy roleplay 4ed and the fallout/cyberpunk ttrpg games>t. protonerd
>>146445571 "Where are the good writers">>146445596 "Where you gonna find them?"AI tier exchange
>>146445628I would REALLY want to see numbers to back up the claim that WFRP and Cyberpunk are more popular than DnD.
>>146445571Hopefully growing up right now and not raised in a generation that thinks "man this is such an ingenious twist" is a example of good writing.
We need more goblin comics.
>>146445690Interspecies Reviewers but its about a Goblin female Reviewing different species and their hybrid offspring
>>146445078Fantasy is still a decently niche genre and its not like we have nothing >>146445628>completely ignores BG3 but also consider that the cartoon industry is sorta in shambles and most people get their fix on high fantasy from games
>>146445738Fantasy's niche?
>>146445731>has like 20 kids by the end of the series
>>146445690Why are goblins such huge sluts for human men?
>>146445772I think they're just huge sluts in general.
>>146445752not so much as niche, but niche compared to how expensive it usually is and how lurkwarm the successes are for things that aren't exceptionally big
>>146445441Bg3 was about aliens fighting demons? Can you elaborate?T. Dark elf evil paladin playthrough
>>146445441>>146445820think he's referring to the Gith who have been in DND since 1e but have been put into the limelight because of BG3Aliens sometimes show up in fantasy, i mean there's the Draenei even warhammer 40k which doesn't actually have that much hard sci-fi bullshit until you get into the tau and tyrranids
>>146445820I didn't mean that BG3 is specifically about Aliens fighting Demons. I meant in the intro where Illithids are fighting the Cambions. I thought that concept was really cool
Technically mindflares are more Eldritch than alien but still.
>>146445756Just your average goblin mom.
>>146445078she will carry my human babies in her goblin womb
>>146446172Hope you like paying a LOT of child support
>>146446239why would I pay child support if we're married?
I should read some Conan.
>>146446253>getting married and not running outHow nice of you.
>>146446285I should play some Conan. Been long enough.
>>146445660wfrp is doing numbers in poland thoe
>>146445370I'm writing orcs but orcs will be more privy to Chicano culture. Because the idea of a low rider with tinted windows riding up on you and hitting you with hydraulics as the windows roll down only to reveal Hector, and his orc friends mad dogging you only for the orc to open his mouth with his gruff orc voice and be like "whassup foo? the fuck you doin' in our hood homie?" Is fucking hilarious to me.
>>146446444So Bright?You're just remaking the movie Bright?
>>146445078Because nobody wants orcs that talk like liberal tik-tokkers.
>>146446608Not really bright, although some elements maybe because that universe was really cool but it didn't really have too much exploration. If you want to get more specific I've always liked shadowrun and it's use of fantasy races. Where it's modern lightly bordering sci fi but there are stuff like orcs, goblins, elves, dwarfs ect. Because it's fun and cool to explore that element of races in society.
>>146446444Trips for chORKZThe idea is so dumb yet funny
Speaking of, the Elf Only Inn guy started a modern fantasy office romance webcomic, pic relatedrosegrey.thecomicseries.comI don't think it's got much readership so far, but it's a nice comic
>>146446723Looks dumb as shit, so I'll pass. Thanks.
>>146446743that's anon tsunedere speak for "I want more", I can tell
You got zombies in my modern fantasy... I guess zombies are fantasy, really?
"guess he's one of the good ones"
>>146445370Where do people get this retarded idea from?The biggest /co/ fantasy property around involves killing fucktons of evil orcs, has no good demons, and prominently features an unambiguously good holy woman among its main cast. Its bad guys are pretty much completely, unrepentantly evil, and they are stopped by murdering the shit out of them.
oh look, she remembers him
>>146446827Oh yeah that one... sure. The one. I have no idea what you're talking about
>>146445078>Why aren't we seeing a revival of traditional fantasy-genre cartoons?Nobody wants to write straightforward fantasy, just self-referential rick and morty-esque tripe with a fantasy paint.
>>146445565They wanted to turn Sauron into a villain protagonist. As in, a bad guy that you follow in the narrative and whose evil is understandable. This is entirely a Tolkiensian thing to do, as Sauron was always understandable in his evil. "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions" is very much the arc Tolkien made for him. In fact, it's an important feature of the very world itself that Sauron is not as evil or as powerful as Morgoth, and that the struggle against him is not as vital or tremendous. Tolkien saw the present as a frailer echo of the past, and Sauron is this for Morgoth: where Morgoth fell from grace with a tremendous crash, Sauron sort of stumbled faintly downward after a series of mistakes.There's a lot in RoP that is pretty genuinely Tolkiensian in basic form, but when it comes down to it, the writing and visual design is just not up to scratch. Using Tolkien's base ideas is meaningless if you simply cannot write a scene to save your own life.
WARNING. WARNING.THIS IS A STEALTH GOBLIN THREAD.ALERT.STEALTH. GOBLIN. THREAD.
Aand that's the setup, I'll leave you all to discuss how shit everything is nowadays, they sure don't make 'em like when I was 13, funny how everything was awesome then and nothing has been as good since, eh?
>>146446850It's VM, At least, that's the biggest fantasy cartoon with any of the things we're talking about. The actual biggest is Arcane, which doesn't really qualify because it doesn't have any of those elements.I guess Noxians are sort of orcs, and they're pretty unambiguously evil so far.
>>146446901>"Target spotted. Commencing semen acquisition."
>>146445078>DnD is more popular than everThis is why you should be glad we're not getting anything. It would be absolute MCU humor disingenuous crap.
>>146446295National Treasure is a shit film though
>>146445078>Traditional fantasy-genreIn an age where you get fingerwagged for saving a damsel in distress and need to have wheelchair-accessible D&D dungeons, that you're gonna get traditional hero quest action cartoon? Start loving anime, anon... sorry...
>>146447087>Start loving anime, anon... sorry...Anime fantasy has been a joke for a long time too when it comes to "traditional" fantasy. It's all been cheap shit isekai crap or video game esque crap that's always trying to be OH SO SELF AWARE LOL! I swear it feels like it's been ages since we saw some honest fantasy.
>>146445078Because it's fucking expensive & they keep being these propaganda soapbox shows animated by koreans.
>>146447143Isekais are good up until they get whatever cheat bullshit then they all go down the same tropes and story beats. Every one is more interesting when the characters actually have to struggle and figure shit out instead of pressing the I win button over and over again.
>>146446850>That comicIs there more?
>>146446723HAHAHA Get of load of this spawnbrother! LMAO filing down his tusks hahahaha. Squealers got em docile! LOL!!!
>>146447143>I swear it feels like it's been ages since we saw some honest fantasyFrieren and Dungeon Meshi were like a few months ago man.
>>146446912cute, thanks for sharing anon
>>146447143Which one is that
>>146446827>Where do people get this retarded idea from?Lots of places. Some want to get rid of the "problematic" overtones of someone group being inherently evil, others do it out contrarianism or because they find subversion funny. While not technically demons, tieflings in DnD are a poster child of that "demonic creature in modern fantasy" panel, on a meta level they are kinda stereotyped as darlings of theatre kid pronoun squad who want to play as unfairly persecuted chaotic/neutral good LGBTQQIIA2S+ anti-heroes. Karlach from BG3 is a decent example of a wholesome quirk chungus tiefling.WotC itself has been also steadily trying to make orcs nicer. Traditionally they were an "enemy" race, with the role of "playable" orcs being filled by half-orcs, but for example a 2024 player handbook has no half-breeds and instead regular orcs got fully promoted from being barbarian rapist-plunderers(yikes, that ain't it y'all) to being a fully playable race that doesn't inherently lean evil anymore.Also "church bad" is a widespread theme in isekaislop, not surprising because the authors of these shitty web novels which get anime adaptations all copy from each other. Demons/monsters having a nicer side or sometimes outright being morally superior to humans is likewise fairly common. This shit is so widespread Frieren got tons of praise simply because it subverted the subversion by showing that demons are, in fact, evil.
>>146447734Record of Lodoss War.Also got a decent game featuring picrel fairly recently
>>146447923>While not technically demons, tieflings in DnD are a poster child of that "demonic creature in modern fantasy" panelTieflings have been a good guy player character option since the 80s anon. I'm not sure there's ever been famous tiefling character that wasn't a good guy.>Also "church bad" is a widespread theme in isekaislop99% of isekai has a bunch of good guy priest girls that fall in love with the MC, the idea that they're all evil is silly. I think there's like three mainstream isekai where the generic fantasy church is evil, and they're isekai that set out specifically to be edgy.>Demons/monsters having a nicer side or sometimes outright being morally superior to humans is likewise fairly commonIt really isn't. Demons being treated as not literally made of evil is a thing in anime, sure, but that's because they don't really mean the same thing when they say 'demon'. They're often not even saying 'akuma' or 'yokai', they're saying 'majin' or 'mazoku', which... doesn't really translate into what we think of when we think demon. I can't even name ten shows where demons are often good guys in western media. Hell, I can't think of five.
>>146447369>Frieren and Dungeon Meshi were like a few months ago man.I know. and the fact that you think that's some kind of achievement is exactly my point,
>>146448094Both are honest fantasy. And as someone who likes Lodoss Senki quite a lot, DM is the better story by a fair bit.
>>146448076>Tieflings have been a good guy player character option since the 80s anon. I'm not sure there's ever been famous tiefling character that wasn't a good guy.Tieflings were added in 3rd edition as a monster and weren't playable till the 2000s you tard.
>>146448112The hell they are. Frieren is basically just shonen shit complete with exam and tournament arcs and DM is just shit Wizardry with LOL FOOD jokes. >better story by a fair bit.No.
>>146448115>Tieflings were added in 3rd edition as a monster and weren't playable till the 2000s you tard.Tieflings were playable as of '94, where Planescape introduced them. I'd forgotten it wasn't in '89, but either way, that'd be 2nd edition.>>146448143>Frieren is basically just shonenYeah, there's little point reading past this. I didn't think Frieren was as amazing as it was hyped to be, but it certainly isn't shonen. Not that this would matter - a lot of shonen are, in fact, also fantasy.
>>146446901>stealth
>>146448115>Tieflings were added in 3rd edition2nd.>and weren't playable till the 2000sWhy are you saying this as though that would be later than 3rd? 3rd came out on in the year 2000. Do you think 3rd began in the 90s and 4th in the 2000s or something?
i just wondering where are the good fantasy comics? it seems like it would be a sure thing...
>>146448301It's hard to tell the same stories over and over. Most of the more interesting newer fantasy tales, Earthsea and such, feel like they wouldn't be action heavy enough for a large amount of comic readers, and many of those that would like them would rather just read them as books.
>>146448214>I didn't think Frieren was as amazing as it was hyped to be, but it certainly isn't shonen.They literally spent a third of the anime on a license exam where they introduced a bunch of worthless characters all at once to take part in an exam tournament arc. It absolutely is shounen. And yes I've read ahead in the manga. El Dorado is even more shounen shit show. They lured people in with thinking it's gonna be about Elf realizing the ephemeral nature of mortality but nope. Just PEW PEW!! All the way through.
>>146448323>They literally spent a third of the anime on a license examIt didn't play out like a shonen though. The vast majority of that section was not about intricate battles, but character interactions. Shonen does not mean "there is a tournament at some point."
>>146446885ok this one made me lol
I feel like a decent chunk of modern D&D fans are in it for the "characters doing stupid shit" angle over the traditional fantasy aspects of the game.
>>146448571I had the misfortune of getting a haircut at some redditor's version of a barbershop because it was the one closest to were I was living. The staff looked as you would imagine, bearded women with blue hair, that sorta deal. The woman cutting my hair was talking to another staffer about some D&D game they were apart of, and paraphrasing a little, it went like>The goblin king got on a big rock and threw off his cloak, and he had a luchador mask underneath and he did an elbow drop on the dragon!
>>146445078nobody cares about your DnD campaign
>>146446827Which /co/ property are you talking about?
>>146448322but as the rest of the thread is derailing to there's been a bunch of fantasy manga, mostly as a response to the isekai boom. plus they have the manga problem of quantity over quality. but still i feel like there should be more in the creator-own scene.
>>146448045>Those ears>Those shouldersGod damn. Like looking at a white Night Elf.
>>146446958Sorry I’m retarded, what the fuck is VM? I don’t recognize that acronym and looking up "VM cartoon" only brings up some shitty Indian YouTube slop channel.
>>146448992Vox Machina.
>>146445690Why would she wear all that, pack her bag so haphazardly with sexual paraphernalia, then be embarrassed when asked the question?She should either be seen hiding something to indicate her intrinsic list of BHC while giving the embarrassed response, or she should look smugly or teasingly at the asker and either let her paraphernalia do the talking or say something like "guess".
Want some?
>>146448143>exam and tournamentThere is a SINGLE one in the entire manga, it isn't even that long, why do so many people make a fuss about it? Right after it it goes back to it's pace.
>>146448143>Anime only
>>146445078Who would write it?
>>146449028There's a difference between being enthusiastic about a thing and being confronted about it. If she were being offered it, the bog-standard flush-and-stutter routine would be happening.
>>146445772Because they exclusively have human sons and goblin daughters
>>146448143>>146448214>>146448323>>146448357Fucking hell, both you two are being stupid (the first guy more so desu but still). Frieren IS shonen but not because it has a tournament arc (you fucking retard), but because it’s been published in Weekly Shōnen Sunday since 2020 and is therefore aimed at it’s aimed at 9 to 18 yr old males because shōnen is not a genre, it’s a DEMOGRAPHIC
>>146449459This Frieren is too sexy to me.
>>146447369Wow dude, just gonna drop those turds like that?
>>146445965Depends how deep you go into the lore. I think they've been alien since at least AD&D 1e, maybe OD&D.
>>146448289>4th in the 2000sTechnically true
>>146445078Here's a traditional fantasy genre cartoon you can have.
>>146448045its a Castlevania styled side scroller, don't bother. Gets boring after 20 mins
>>146445078Because every attempt just becomes a snarky sarcastic show that doesn't take itself seriously.
>>146450286
>>146450240>Because every attempt just becomes a snarky sarcastic showthats a good thing> that doesn't take itself seriously.also a good thing
>>146450325Damn man, you're retarded.
>>146448571>over the traditional fantasy aspects of the game.the entire RPG space as a whole has evolved past being a simple dungeon crawlDnD only even retains those aspects out of sheer inertia, it would seem like heresy to get rid of them even though only a fraction of players care about keeping track of every ounce of weight from each coin you carrybut except for hardcore /OSR/ neckbeards who are convinced ADnD was the height of tabletop gaming, most RPGs have embraced the LARP aspects over the dungeon crawl
>>146447369frieren is one of the dullest things I've had the displeasure of watching, just a muddled mess of cliches and emotionless dialogue
>>146450345sarcastic people are more entertainingtaking your own setting too seriously is a far worse crime than not taking it seriously at all, which is hardly a crime but a virtue
>>146450385Why?
Wanted to post those on the woya threads. might be as well here since you fags are in to goblins too.
>>146450555
>>146445370>>146445413>playing fantasy games or watching fantasy media>everyone has dyed hair, tattoos that don't exist for cultural reasons, and side cuts
>>146450589>fantasy "medieval" setting>people have early renaissance-era plate armor>but they also wear dark ages peasant clothing rather than sabatons or bycokcet hats>people speak in elizabethan or shakesperean english and use latin characters for spelling>no one has arquebuses or handgonnes>everything is brown, no one has widespread red or yellow dyescomplaining about tattoos and modern haircuts sounds seriously myopic, especially since there would be no physical barrier to having a sidecut in a pre-undustrial society, especially one that has magic
>>146445191>Brown DykeBut would you go for Brown Bisexual with confirmed OT3? Just a hypothetical.
>>146445078What is this? It's move is nicely.
>>146450630I don't think it's unfeasible, I simply dislike the aesthetic.
>>146450630There's a difference in compositing medieval and Renaissance era cultures. A good chunk of stories that often form the ground work of that kind of fantasy is Renaissance era stories set in the medieval era causing a bleeding together of time-frames.
>>146450157I hope it is nice, I would be happy even if the dialogue sounds "tolkien"
>>146450325>> that doesn't take itself seriously.>also a good thingNo. Fuck you. There's a difference between not being grim dark and not taking yourself seriously. You should always take yourself serious because that means you care about what you're making. You can joke, you can be lighter in tone. But fucking care. So fuck you, you new fag piece of disingenuous crap.
>>146450949>No. Fuck you.yes>There's a difference between not being grim dark and not taking yourself seriously.when people say dont take yourself seriously, they mean dont act like steven seagalwho cannot stand anyone making jokes about him because he perceives it as a hit against his personal pride to the point that he thought SNL was heckling him for even jokingly saying that arnold schwarchanegger is better than himshows are better when they dont act like thatable to take things in stride without having to beg to be taken as more important than it actually is>But fucking care. caring is goodbut taking yourself seriously is bad>So fuck you, you new fag piece of disingenuous crap.god forbid people realize entertainment is meant to be entertaining
>>146450240Yeah it's this.
>>146445078>steal from company>asks why company isn't spending money
>>146450986We are cartoonish villains
>>146450949Personally for me it's snarky characters who get traumatized by grimdark situations they can't joke their way through
>>146450671>>146450903Careful anons if /tg/ gets wind of this people will start melting down that they can't instantly kill everying with a single gunshot.
>>146450903That's a bit like saying there is nothing wrong with kevlar vests and night vision goggles in a story set during the French and Indian War.
>>146445078Megacorps aren't giving green lights to anything that isn't already proven, and even then they're reluctant. Hell, Peacock bought the rights to make a cartoon out of The Adventure Zone and have just been sitting on them for years now.
>>146445413>Complains about "modern writers of fantasy.">Posts sexy goblinYour outrage is selective, I see.
>>146451373NTA but if there was a accepted tradition of using Kevlar Vests and Night Vision Goggles in stories about the French and Indian War written by writers today for the sake of cultural resonance and out of relative ignorance about what gear was used back then that got popular and lasted the turmoil of time. Then in another roughly 300 years it would be perfectly fine to use the pastiche made as the foundation for ones games and fiction.Mostly because if it lasted that long then it has the right mixture of long term appeal and luck to be worthwhile.
>>146445078Why doesn't this goblin have a cock in her mouth hole?
>>146445370This highlights the problems really well. Both sides are equally predictable and boring, but both can be written good, just nobody gives a shit. Writing nowadays really boils down to some fag level of virtue signalling, its not about the substance but some surface level ideas and symbols.
>>146446444This feels like it would fit in well as a ork clan in 40k. I like it.
>>146445690Did he ever do another work this girl or like it?
>>146446874>>146446885Huh, I kind of like what they're doing here. The role reversal is sort of interesting and her ripping her own head off in frustration is a fun detail.
>>146450555>>146450564she needs to get fucked by chris griffin
>>146448262I like this thing's look. Is she the same goblin form OP's thing?
>>146445370>subverting the role of traditionally evil races>Okay I guess.>subverting the role of demonic creatures>Okay I guess.>subverting the role of church>REEE WHY IS THIS LEGAL, I'M LARPING AS A CHRISTIAN AND THIS REALLY HURTS MY FEELINGS!Why are Christcucks always this fragile?
>>146445078>DnD is more popular than everD&D is already dead, normies just haven't caught up yet due to propaganda shows like Critical Role. 5.5 is going to be the deathknell by turning a hobby you play with your friends at home without interference from anyone else into an ongoing subscription service using online resources.
>>146448571When you sit around the table with a bunch of friends and pretend to be Elves and wizards and shit, stupid shit is going to happen. People who think every tabletop campaign should be a super serious Fantasy story are a minority of players or, far more likely, have never played TTRPG's and extrapolate their supposed ideal circumstance from old Fantasy media they enjoy. There might have been a bit of a change as it's seemingly become more common to play with friends rather than game store pick-up groups, leading to a more informal atmosphere at most tables. But even OG D&D shit like Tucker's Kobolds is a clear fucking joke between friends, and if fake grognards who never played deigned to remember Tucker's Kobolds, they'd probably decry them for being a silly meme.Simple example: As a DM, I had enemies capture one of the PC's and imprison him in a big hole in the ground. When the party arrived, one of the players did some quick math in his head: Even at max damage he could survive the fall. So he just jumped down instead of lowering a rope or something and popped some heals when he got there. This was, of course, highly comical. And also entirely within the rules, and entirely practical.
>>146450555The colors here are pretty cool.
>>146446958Not trolling but I watched the first season and I honestly could not figure out what "VM" stood for, and I'm not the only one >>146448690>>146448992>>146447309yusshttps://rosegrey.thecomicseries.com/Second chapter introduces a bunch of new characters though
>>146452852actually sorry, that's the third chapter, second chapter is the camping trip
>>146445370>refuses to elaborate>leaves
Goblin sex.
>>146453853Goblin witchery.
Goblin hoes (bit redundant).
I once saw a comic somewhere about a goblin girl with severe self-esteem issues and human bf. NGL I liked it.
>>146447923>church evil in Japanese slopsOne thing about this: The reason why they always make the church as an enemy is because unlike in europe, where the chuch has been estabilished as an "Unifying force" and at least somewhat tried to work along with the government, not to mention it was a continental religion, in asia it was different. In east asian countries cults and religious sects were powerful enough to compell and turn the masses against the government, whenever religious figures arose, they were always trying to take over shit too and tried to become worldly leaders.In asia, most of the times, cults were often a threat to rulers. remember that one chinese guy who claimed to be Jesus' brother for example and started a war which ended in the death of more than 20 million people? Yeah, that's why. It's just that Here in the west, kings and lords were more like the business partners of the church rather than an opposing force.
>>146454697I've only ever seen the one with the feral goblin that the warrior morphs into a waifu.
>>146453955Those are cool. Goblins being classes they aren't often assigned.
>>146453853>>146453955>>146453970>>146454988>>146454989I despise you.
>>146455023Oh yea? What're you gonna do about it?
>>146452277I'm an agnostic and I find this shit pretty weird.Like in a setting where both Gods definitely exist and they express their will on the mortal plain how the church being evil even work, like unless the god is actively evil (which if so probably would go against the whole holy magic shit) why would he lend his followers holy powers if they themselves are evil.Like what? That's fucking retarded.
>>146445078Most people in the animation industry right now are woke DEI leftists and decadent managerial bureaucrats.
>>146455059>They could pretend to serve a good god but really they serve an evil one, and by making a mockery of the good god, they earn the favor of the evil one.
>>146445078Who's gonna fund it?There's no money in it.
>>146455146half of this sentence is just buzzwords of someone who is too illiterate to express their real opinions.Just like your answer sill be to this omment.
>>146455059That really throws a wrench in adapting Ladyhawke or scenarios like that>>146456475Well this kinda works
>>146452288The problem is that doesn't make for compelling stories.
>>146449130No thanks, I prefer my goblin girls to not be dying from assorted macromastia-induced cancers.
>>146445255/thread
>>146457902You could've just said you were gay.
>>146445571me. im thebright writer.im afraid to stick my head out because i just rhink ill be racially, sexually, ideologically discriminated against
>>146456475Look that kind of story can work but for the most part not what most people actually do, it's usually just "le church is le evil" and still functions as a worshipers of a a holy god. Like I get it, your mad about real world groups, but this shit is just stupid in universe.
There's probably some shorts on YouTube that are kinda like that.
>>146458965yeah for quiye a long time now, whatever the christianity analog is, it's evil.
Ogrepaladin made another comic back in '13, it's a sort of "fantasy CSI" where the investigator, being a Paladin can just *ask* the victim what happened, and maybe raise them from the deadIt was dropped but there's about 4 chapters worth, it had potential.
https://noscrying.thecomicseries.com/ is the link
>>146445370Bottom one is every jrpg ever.
>>146446444Anon, that's just Bright again. Your writing Bright.
>>146460152Bright didn't have chicano orcs though, they all dressed like generic new yorkers than actual mexican gang bangers, you know shirtless with tank tops and dickies or big pants with the long socks with tribal tattoos and bald heads with sunglasses? Moreover they didn't even have accents lmao. Actually in the film they were RIVALS with mexican gangs not allies as I'm implying. Also has no one ever heard of shadowrun? It has that element of fantasy races in a modern setting deal. I just think the idea of fantasy races like that is cool, but I'm not trying to write them as misunderstood or anything like that. Orcs are orcs man lol.
>>146445370I don't mind changing things up sometimes but every fucking modern piece of media has to do this shit. It doesn't matter what genre. Things can't even be serious or genuine anymore. It's seen as "cringe". I've been playing older games and watching older movies and it's such a fresh breath of air to see no matter how silly or edgy, etc. something is, they still will be genuine or serious about the concept/characters.Why is this the way things are now?
>>146461286How are you determining that a piece of media is un-seriousness or un-genuine? Despite having moments of levity, I would describe Steven Universe, She-Ra, and Arkane as being examples of modern, animated works, each of which belongs to a different genre, that are both serious and genuine.
>>146447259This, Arifureta for example started fucking great and I was really excited to get into it, but then all the harem/OP shit started and it immediately crashed and burned. When he was fighting for his life to get a meal from the thicc rabbits it was a 10/10Another great example is Kumo, where its great right until she gets her humanoid form, whereupon they gotta switch perspective to characters that are awful, and she cant really be challenged by anything anymore. The anime in general for that one's just kinda bad though, so I more mean the novels for it.
Goblin Sexo.
>>146445078Lol I dunno
>>146454697This one?
>>146461976Kumoko being given human eyes instead of the ones she had in the manga will never not annoy me.
>>146445965>>146449889There's only a difference if they're terrestrial species from our dimension.
>>146460210Dungeon Meshi did.
>>146465454That anime's really just a disappointment in general. Stuff skipped over, stuff ignored, bad animation, low budget, just...disappointing. So very disappointing.
>>146445370this comic feels like it was drawn by someone who doesn't consume a lot of media but consumes a lot of thinkpieces about media
>>146457902Macromastia doesn't cause cancer. Everything that causes breast cancer just gets more chances with it.
>>146445078I think the famous Star Wars/LOTR ripoff book series could actually become really popular despite its derivative plot but only if the adaptation was animated
>>146450630Your thing is still a fantasy, escaping into a fictional setting made of stitched together historical aesthetic. Loan chum in platemail or battle bikinis is a thing I could actually see on the weekend.
>>146452122You can see her negotiating a price for the man's time.
>>146452286Did one of the various free licensed ripoffs nerds cooked overnight in response to that one particularly egregious faggotry ever emerge as dominant, or is everyone just cooking their own gumbo?
>>146446885This is really cute anon. I would love to read this
>>146456492Netflix throws money at everything. If you pitched them an adult cartoon about these sexy goblins living in a city, they'd make a pilot.
>Medieval setting>Everything is covered in shit, people live in mud huts, nobody practices hygiene, every castle looks like they aren't being maintained, armor makes you move like a tank, characters have multiple european accents but co-exist together in the same land and society because racism and xenophobia only happens to people with different skin colors, barely any color at all
>>146466121Yeah man I went to a viking experience in the 80s, a simulated medieval village, and yes it DID stink, because there is cattle and animals everywhere. The cattle was used as HEATING my dude, and shat where it stood because that's what they fucking DO and people get used to it. And yes in areas like Al-Andalus people of various colours coexisted and being the right ethnicity was less important than being the right religion, god knows I don't like the wokes pretending 19th century england looked exactly like modern London but I'm not going back to 1950s hollywood technicolour crap either>>146466095You're in luck, it's a live webcomic, available herehttps://rosegrey.thecomicseries.com/
>>146466121>call it the Dark Ages>they aren't actually dark
>>146445370>why don’t people use fantasy as stand ins for racism, sexualization of women, more racism, and tradwives anymore :( incel post
>>146466461They kind of still do by making elves nazis or at least obssessed with blood purity, it was a thing in Skyrim and The Witcher. Even Delicious in Dungeon did it a bit with the elven queen.
>>146466121Mind anon that people multiple ethnicities DID co-exist within the same land and society because the modern concept of a nation-state hadn't formed yet. Like Bohemia, you'd have Poles, Czechs, Germans, and variously-numbered Slavics living in close proximity
>>146466603Don't forget black people were there too.
>>146446901There's not enough crying for this to be a goblins thread
>>146446901Stealth?
All Goblins Must Go.Go back to Goblinia.You come into our communities, take our jobs with your low pay, ruin the streets, stink up the place, scare our women and men, spray your Goblin Graffiti(Gobfitti) all over our shops and buildings, and you barely speak God's English.Goblins go home. The next time I see one of you Swamp Skins stealing from my shop you're going to get a 00 8-Gauge Buck to the face.
>>146467797Goblins are here to stay.
>>146467834In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ I shall smite every Goblin that enters my home. My Son will not have a Goblin wife. I'd rather kick him out. >No Goblins.>No Elves.If he wants to be edgy he can marry a Gnome or a Dwarf. They at least contribute to society. Elves are fucking tree hugging autisimos that smell like ass.
>>146467901I'm gonna report you to the goblin mayor who won a free and fair election. We don't need racists like you on our streets.
>>146467997What is he gonna do, huh? I've been here longer than him! No goblins allowed in my shop, no goblins allowed on my property, if I see a Goblin I'm gonna karate chop it's head!
>>146468039Your time is up racist bigot.
>>146461672It's called committing to the premise. Not doing it really sticks out.
Real talk, any comics or stories where the Goblins aren't a bad or antagonistic force?
>>146468107There's barely any genuine fantasy comics in the first place anon, you're asking for a needle in a 10 ton haystack.
>>146466995Saracens were pretty dark, and sure got around.
>>146468116Then it looks like I'll need to finish my fantasy story.
>>146468107Yeah man it's the new meta since like a decade ago? There's several examples posted just in this thread https://www.goblinscomic.com/ https://noscrying.thecomicseries.com/ https://flakypastry.runningwithpencils.com/
>>146468218>Flaky PastryGod DAMN, surely this shit isn't still going?
>>146450643C'mon, anybody? I want to know please.
>>146466047How many books of these were there? I thought it was supposed to be a trilogy.
Looking at what’s posted here, you need quality people before they even start on quality fantasy animation.
>>146468218Anything from this century, grandpa? That Orc/zombie comic is kinda nice, though, thanks for that>>146468245Nah, it dead.>>146468252It's some animator who did it as part of a portfolio or something and put it on YouTube. There isn't any more. She's working in the industry or something, I don't know. It was never more than a portfolio piece. I'm not going to look her up again. You have Google. Figure it out, and you'll see I'm right.
>300 frames just for a minuscule dialog sequence2d animation while good its a massive pain in the ass to do
>>146469175In an ideal world AI would handle the heavy lifting of traditional animation and help 2d to make a comeback
>>146465987Sad.>>146466007
>>146469175And people wonder why animation looks like shit these days.
>>146469039How the fuck am I supposed to look it up on that vague ass description? Also, was it animated to dialogue? Lips are moving.
I am going to debone every Goblin I see and then use them for fertilizer. This is a HUMAN world.
too many faggots think fantasy is a synonym for historical fiction but with dragons
>>146470966Did you know that Hitler killed three million Goblins?
>>146469039I thought I was in the dead webcomics thread, but hmm, that alfie porn-with-plot comic has goblins, both unsounded and kill six billion demons have goblin-ish races in the backgroundactually forget goblins for a hot second, if this is the fantasy comics thread how come no one has mentioned those two? They're pretty awesome.
>>146466461>stand ins for racismOr maybe, just maybe, they can be a common enemy to demonstrate that your fellow man is more alike than not. Who cares about race or creed so long as we can stand together as brothers against the real enemy?
>>146470252This would make godawful animation, the heavy lifting is where you need a human
>>146471078Depends on what part you're considering the heavy lifting. If AI can do a good job of the inbetweening that most studios would just outsource to poorly paying, abusive Asian studios anyway, then I wouldn't find that objectionable. Not to say the technology is quite there yet, to be clear.I would agree however that you can't really compromise on having humans doing the key frames.
any good dnd podcasts to follow?i'm listening to folk and dagger, it's pretty fun
>>146471311>DnD podcasts
>>146445370god people are going to spam this shit-ass comic a lot aren't they
>>146470701Just search "nott the brave animated" on YouTube, you'll find it I'm sure. And yes, it was animated to dialogue.>>146471034I don't think I'd count the Inak as Goblins. Unless you mean Mikaila. She's more of a singular, little Goblin. But neither are traditional Fantasy, so they fall outside of the stated brief of the thread. Both are also good and not representative of the modern Fantasy bugaboo fake grognards have, so they also make poor ragebait.
>>146471311PSAIf you don't grow out of D&D podcasts after two years of listening to them or don't branch out to other games besides D&D after three years then you a lost cause whos euthanasia would be better for the TTRPG community in general.You cans till play D&D but sticking to only it makes you the equivalent of one of those people who only ever read Harry Potter and compare its characters to IRL political figures.Podcasts are meant to fill the void of not having enough people to play with and are to be moved past once you find your own consistent group.
>>146471032>kill 3 million goblins >10 years later they've fully repopulated
>>146445370Lol is this suppose to imply the characters on the right are bad? That bookish succubus is adorable
>>146471585>Goblins fought on both sides of the war.>Have to struggle with that.
>>146470966Well, yeah. The less historical it get the more you risk brown people showing up and nobody wants that.
>>146445370>What if good actually bad>What if bad actually goodAll of fiction the last 30 years.
>>146471626The issue is that the subversion has become the norm to the point of actively shaming people for picking the left versions when those are better for generalized heroic adventuring which is what fantasy fiction is for.
Thats it, Ive had enough of these Goblins!Im sending all of them too...... OHIO.
>>146470701igotchuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae2cJ1O5hPM
>>146472131>Critical RollDropped.
>>146472076Are you hoping the Haitians will eat them?
>>146471632...struggle?
>>146445370>Pathfinder's Mexican culturally rich Orcs>Arueshalae just wants to be a good girl>Ultima VI>lol>lmao>Just going to say Metaphor because it's one of the most recent and there are too manyI'll give Aru a pass at least since you can still corrupt her and keep her true to her nature.
>>146468123Not just Saracens, they didn’t have the modern concept of nation-state so that means African-Americans were there too.
>>146472232>Metaphor“Church evil” is kind of a JRPG staple at this point, isn’t it? As far as I am into it, they’ve also noted that there are good people that practice Sanctism, it’s mostly that Pope is a power hungry monster, and it looks like most of the corrupt members are going to be excommunicated by the end of the game anyways.
>>146472229Gothlin?
>>146472328And eskimos
>>146471715Did you know the nerd stereotype used to be awful, selfish cunts?
>>146470966A Song of Ice and Fire is kind of a mushy in between.Faintly inspired by some historical events but not enough detail to be "historical".The fantasy element is a little lean too, Gurm plays all the cool stuff pretty close his chest to keep you interested and not realize that very little is actually happening for the amount of words written.
>>146475678It's sword & sorcery, like Conan shit. That's older and separate from high fantasy.
>>146466216Petratch can fuck off with that.
>>146475698Right, and the original covers reflected the content a lot better.At some point when the show started airing normies got it into their heads that this GoT was a more "realistic" take on Medieval fantasy, when it was clearly just pulp shlock."Aragorns Tax Policy" was just fuel to the fire.
>>146475701Petrarch*
>>146475752What is this plague of chatbots?
>>146475868I beg your pardon?
