Why don't you give Ant-Man the respect he deserves, huh, anons?
>>146704927Does he have any good comics?
>>146704927A N T S
>>146704927I pray to Hank Pym and denounce Eric O'Grady every morning when I wake upI will only date women named Janet and will never interact with any AI
>>146704927Who is Scott’s waifu since he doesn’t have his own Wasp in comics?
ANTLION FUCKING SHITS
>>146705054>Eric O'GradyObjectively the coolest looking Ant-Man.
>>146705105>Objectively the coolest looking Ant-Man.May Hank have mercy on your atoms
>>146705131I take it back, I forgot he existed, they're now tied for the coolest looking one.
>>146705139Ultron-13 take you for your blasphemy
He's a gross abuser
>>146705054Kek
>>146705197Didn't Janet technically take advantage of him when he was mentally unstable and having a psychotic break which is essentially abusive to, honestly both of them needed to sort things out before getting married/gotten him treatment which would've solved a lot of issues.
>>146704927But I do>>146705063Darla Deering, Janice Lincoln. Maybe Black Cat. The Jessica Jones fling never happened and it was all a bad dream
This was easily Hank's best costume besides Yellowjacket but I also think Rita Demara should be the main mantle holder for that since she purrrty. Giant-man suit both looks cool and still clearly having the strong ant imagery he needs in his design without looking to silly.
>>146705214I kinda wish they did more with the Janice Lincoln pairing since I quite like her but same time pairing her with Randy was fun for interaction between their dads with a lot of history. I still think Hank and Rita woulda been a fun dynamic if it was mostly him thinking she's being nice while she is somewhat spiting Janice for not sticking with him like how she was down bad for Black Knight when Janet turned him down for reminding her of Hank.
>>146705105This is going to be blasphemy but for me the coolest Ant-Man costume will always be the first MCU suit, it has so many things going for that I love and I always thought it was a design that could also work on 2D
ANTS
>>146705315to be fair the Ant-man suit in the MCU is genuinely cool since it just radiates Tokusatsu vibes, like the Yellowjacket suit also looks fucking radical in that film. The concept art for Hank's version in Antman and the Wasp of it also looked real dope but also didn't give him a helmet sadly
>>146705248Tell me more about Rita DeMara, what are her comics? A girl running around as Yellowjacket sounds good
>>146705381well sadly she's been dead since 2006 but she debuted in Avengers #236 as a crook stealing the left over Yellowjacket suit and customizing it for herself, she was defeated in her debut by the first time she shrunk herself completely causing her to panic utterly since she wasn't psychologically ready for it. Afterwards she appeared in the Under Siege story as a member of the Masters of Evil being one of the clearer nicer members since she doesn't put up with Fixer's simping or Mister Hyde trying to murder a guy but is clearly stuck along for the ride, was in #12 of Solo Avengers which this lovely page is from and played a part in the Evoloutionary war plus became an Avenger/Guardians of the Galaxy member before sadly being killed off in The Crossing. Last thing she did was appear in Dead Avengers where she got resurrected for a bit to help save a ton of people and called Dr Druid a dick/asshole/comic book swearing.
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>>146704927I keep thinking about how they did him so dirty with Janet>Be Hank>wife ded>college slut drops all over you>give her powers and propuse>become a crime fighting couple>complete mog whirlwind >avengers starts>Janet is the only woman on the team and the book needs drama so you have to get cucked for drama to happen>Janet starts whoring out to the rest of the avengers. is framed as a shit test or banter from her side but to you and other people it seems more like you are getting cucked and are the weakest member with a partner that doesn't respect you>pretty much every single mental issue and insecurities can be traced down to Janet making you feel like a lesser man compared to your peers and you trying your hardest to prove yourself worthy>ffw slap>ffw rekindle with Janet only to get quite literally cucked by Hawkeye>also you get turned into a robot and your lost daughter who idolized you gets raised by Janet who shit talks you>your daughter changes her name from Pym to Van Dyne>your lab and assets change name to Van Dyne as wellJanet is such a shit love interest, to say she is the avengers bicycle is an understatement
>>146705214All those women have moved on
>>146705634EMH Janet really is the best one just by genuinely being a great character and not as unintentionally nasty at times. Helps her flaws are much more called out/balanced out by Hank as a character since they have a healthier relationship and the main issue is how different they are as people.
>>146704927Not read any other ant man story aside from irridemable and to be fair even the people in his own world don't give him the respect he deserves.The whole premise of the story is a shield agent steals the suit and goes around using it to snoop on girls, get pussy and steal purses. Meanwhile everyone in the avengers are all busy with actual problems like the hulk rampaging and civil war just having happened so they're like "hmm? Yeah whatever shield can sort it out I guess". I won't say much more because I it's a great story and I think anyone reading this should go on and read that instead if you think it sounds fun. Highly highly reccomend.Not sure if they do much else with Eric O'grady after his run cause I didn't give a shit about the avengers story afterwards.>>146704983The one I'm gushing about>>146705054LOL
>>146705105Scott Lang's Heroes For Hire/Johns Avengers suit begs to differ
>>146705990I quite like his Black Ant suit and him having a friendship with Taskmaster that Nick Spencer went with, though the fact the current Eric O Grady is a robot is still weird to me a bit
>>146705653Just naming the few girls he's been with, because he really doesn't have anyone, the dating scene is not kind to a 40+ divorced single dad ex-con that's also a superhero. According to this book, (which is not set in 616) Scott even had flings with Black Widow and Emma Frost, he even made a rule to never date mutants again.
>>146704927All those ants are girls. Do you think they let him... you know?
>>146705634>college slutDid Jan even go to college? IIRC she was about 20 when she became Wasp.
>>146706021WHAT!?! What comic does this happen in? I need to read this horse shit
>>146706941well they hang a lot in Nick Spencer's Spider-man run, Secret Empire #1 and 8, Captain America Steve Rogers #12, 14 and that's what can remember. I know that essentially Rick Remender brought him back as an LMD but Spencer liked using him a lot anyway despite that
>>146706992The original O'Grady met Taskmaster back in Avengers the InitiativeThey bonded over making fun of Scott Lang and then pretending to die/be injured so that they wouldn't be forced to fight KIA
>>146707010huh I didn't know that, I mostly know of the stuff with Constrictor and Diamondback with the Initiative but didn't know those two knew each other in that to. Funny how Taskmaster just befriends his robot replacement like nothing lol
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>>146707082the fucking balls to say stuff you did and then blaming it on Scott in front of his daughter, he's such a fun douchebag. Also artist draws Taskmaster very weird, like every other character looks good here which makes it odder.
>>146705634I kinda hate whoever made Nadia and Janet this way for Nadia’s, aka literally who, comic, whos is even the creators of that comic line anyway?And speaking of Janet, the writers failed big time with Janet and Hank during that run, turning both of them into the messes they are now>>146705676This, Yost knew what he was doing>>146707082>>146707098>>146707115Will admit he is a likable douchebag, which is kinda unique for someone like Eric
>>146707501Yost really was just doing great with every character, but especially Hank and Janet who in the show alone jumped into some of my fave characters of all time.
>>146704927shrinking powers are fucking awesome. 6-year old me would agree with that statement
>>146704927I want to have the ability to become tiny.I envy him.
>>146704927child abuser
>>146707914Since when??????
>>146705315Pretty cool
>>146706485yes
>>146708018Since he killed his son, Ultron
>>146708488Ohh, I mean that's a son that abused first and way harder, even tried to claim his dad's wife
>>146708458Princess Kkkrrkkkikk should've gotten a costume and become Woman-Ant
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At some point you guys just have to accept that he's canonically a mentally ill wife-beater no matter what the 'original intent' was. It's part of his character now, stop being faggots and making excuses when you wouldn't do the same to nearly every other character who had a spot of bad writing.
Guys, hear me out. What if, ants right?But they Sexy female anthro ants?!
>>146709907Mental illness is in vogue nowAlso Reed has beaten his wife. So did Peter when he had one
>>146710273But they're not wife beaters like Pym. Cope
>>146710527>>146710527Not even making excuses here, but boiling it down to "schizo wife beater lol" is taking away the nuance and years of rehabilitation the character went through
>>146704927Because he don't have any good comicbooks since pre2004.
>>146708458Anthrmorphic Voluptous Ant woman, can we get that drawn?
>>146704983Not the most extensive library but there's plenty of good material>>146711494Not even true
Calling him a wife beater when he hit her once, one time, while having a mental breakdown is a bit of a stretchYes it happened and yes it'd been addressed and moved past but there's a nuance there that people love to gloss over
>yeah be beat his wife but uhh...she was a BITCH anyways hahaha...
>>146713011This but unironically
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>>146705676I’ll never forgive them for cancelling EMH and losing Best Jan.
>>146705990God, I love O’Grady. Why is he so cool, bros?
>>146705214>>146705248The Janice stuff in Spencer's Astonishing was really fun but way too short lived. All the hotness of Batman/Catwoman or Spider-Man/Black Cat but none of the shitty, drawn out will-they-won't-they soap opera. Unfortunately, Janice is pretty tainted as a character now after everything that happened with her in Wells/JRJR's Spider-Man.
>>146713456Janice just straight up changing race in the recent comics is insane to me
>>146713581She's been half Black since Spencer revealed her dad was TombstoneAnd her mom is DominicanSo she definitely shouldn't be White
>>146713581I seriously don't know how that even happens.It'd be one thing if it was a blanket racelift like what happened to the Maximoff twins (which would still be stupid shit, btw), but the big problem is that everyone else still draws her as usual even in issues of ASM from that very same run, and then when JRJR comes along he's drawing her like she's some fully black ghetto girl. It's a massive discrepancy I can only attribute to terrible editing.
>>146713581her race never changed, JRJR heard she was tombestones daughter and drew her as if she were fully black because he's a hack
>>146710527>>146709907counterpoint I don't give a shut what you think and I like the character regardless since he's got so much more to define him like cartoons or other issues then a single panel
>>146713270I like how Janet is completely dodging any part she played with constantly undermining him beforehand or the things she did that only factored into his psychological issues or how she clearly took advantage of his mentally ill state to marry him, like the fact he hit her is bad and shouldn't be defended but she contributed to it and also did nothing to treat his obvious problems
>mentally ill man hits his wife once and is demonized for it for 50+ years>Spider-Man uses his super strength to smack his pregnant wife into a wall during a fit of rage and gets off scott freeyou bitches really do love spider-man huh
>>146705063I liked his one night stand with Beetle.
>>146713456yeah the issue isn't even they draw her as a caricature but essentially suck out all personality, capability and make her come off as much weaker on both fronts then when Spencer wrote her it genuinely feels spiteful. Also her alternate costume was soooo fucking bad dude.
>>146714114it's even more frustrating since that was in a more recent storyline so it was fresher but it's even more ignored by everyone and their mother. EMH at least gave us a Hank not having to deal with ANY of this shit and just get to be a cool character.
>>146714143Thank God for EMH and the Thor: The Mighty Avenger comic for giving us cute couples in love without all the baggage
>>146714176yeah I do like how EMH gives their relationship flaws and problems but more grounded and arguably more mature ones where they clearly care for each other plus want what's best for each other but are just such vastly different people with different interests that it causes them problems, like it's a very compelling dive into how even if opposites attract is a fun dynamic the sheer struggles that can come of it. Also I genuinely didn't realise how recent a character Jane Foster was since I thought she debuted much earlier then 2010.
>>146714298I gotta be honest, Janet really should be a mental gymnastics athlete.
>>146714487they should've made her the secret skrull infiltrator, some of her little games were diabolical
>>146704927Because there's multiple ant-men and the first one's most famous feats is being a domestic abuser and creating Ultron.
>>146714531I thought his most famous feat was shrinking and turning big, the making Ultron thing though is not bad out of universe considering how iconic and enduring a villain he is
Pym should beat his wife more often.
>>146713261>>146713270Doesn’t this fall apart when it’s HER fault in part to getting slapped? And they made this okay? And nadia changed her surname to janets last name?
>>146714531Ultron made the Vison, Jocasta, and Vic Mancha, and in turn Vision made his robot family (one of whom is also a superhero) so it all balances out
>>146715408I think it's as fair as you can get>It's not his fault he's mentally ill, but there's no excuse for hitting her whether he's sick or not but it's something she was able to accept and forgive because it wasn't a continued pattern (no matter what some writers would have you believe)>The fact that he never got on medication or got therapy or noticed when he was getting into a manic state and became a danger to other people is the problem. >Because if he had gotten help to try to manage his mental state he probably wouldn't hurt peopleIt's the only way the uwu generation could even consider forgiving him after the wife beater reputation he's built
>>146713602Her dad is Tombstone? That’s fucking stupid.
>>146713011are they wrong tho?
>>146715528What's stupid about it?
>>146715528It's better then it sounds, well when Spencer was doing it that is, Wells made their dynamic awful
The real reason Hank hitting Jan being bad is not the hitting itself, it’s the fact that hipster douchebags who pretend to be fans bring it up to try to prove their nonexistent cred and seem witty.
>>146709843I'm still amazed the first Ant-Man movie turned out as good as it did.
>>146715543The entire idea. It’s stupid on its face.For any further questions, see pic.
>>146715572Thanks for letting me know you're just retarded, I'll disregard your posts in the future
>>146715435Vision was also the reason Wanda created Tommy and BillyAnd since Billy is going to become the Demiurge, kinda important for the future of the multiverse(Tommy might also be involved if the Avengers Academy webtoon is right)
>>146715572Fucking pussy, if you are gonna spew shit have the balls to back it up
>>146715555I'm gonna have to give it a rewatch tonight, rewatched the first Captain America this year and that was quite solid to.
>>146715572>phone poster>itoddler>refuses to engage with a simple questionthat checks out
>>146713974Ah I see. Damn, what do editors even do?
>>146715865collect paychecks mostly
>>146714298I Hate Janet so much bros...but at the same time i think it would be best for her and Hank to get back together and raise Nadia, even tho Janet doesn't deserve Hank.its pathetic seeing Jan love live and story all this time Hank has been dead, it would be a mercy for her.
>>146705315one of the best MCU suits for sure
>>146711787bug women are so hot
>>146712484spider-man did it too and everyone forgot about that
>>146716474They should both die and come back, and get that sweet continuity free pass that Tony Stark gets each time he gets replaced.
>>146713581most mixed-race characters get that treatment at least once even if it's just inconsistent coloring lol
>>146717361>Unfunny YouTube guy who makes the most shallow surface level jokes possible
>>146715555Everyone involved was motivated to do something good after the Wright fiasco, Peyton Reed, Adam Mckay and Paul Rudd literally locked themselves into a hotel room to make the final script based on the original and the one with a billions of notes from Marvel. The hard part was making sequels. Also fun fact, Quantumania is the tenth most expensive film ever made (not adjusted for inflation).
>>146717573I don't hate the idea of Quantamania, but they needed less shitty humour, better effects/script, despite liking Kang in everything else should've used Psycho Man since he's the tyrant of a tiny realm character and remove MODOK but keep Darren Cross and also don't have everyone be shitty to Scott for trying to enjoy his retirement.
>>146704927Who says I don't? Hank Pym(p) is a character I have the utmost respect for. He keeps bitches in line.
>>146717538That’s him pretty much, kinda the worst parody stuff you can do, literally others are copying him now
>>146705210Yeah but he's a white male so it's okay.
>>146718152you did remind me that Nadia essentially had the same psychotic breakdown and attacked multiple of her female friends and didn't suffer ANY amount of the backlash Pym got for it.
>>146717861>despite liking Kang in everything else should've used Psycho Man He does fit better the Quantum Realm setting like the comics but they really just wanted to have movie about Ant-Man vs Big Avengers Bad Guy and liked Kang because he was the biggest villain that's not been used. An idea this ambitious could have used a way better writer than Jeff Loveness, or at least no re-write the thing while filming.
>>146708458>Didn't take her hand in marriage.Opportunity of a lifetime status: missed.
>>146714114>gets off scott freeSpider-Man’s marriage belongs to the devil and he’s a cuck now. No one gets off scott free
>>146719167okay that's pretty bad
Look at this dude
>>146718986Honestly if they absolutely had to use Kang, they needed the whole squad in suits fighting him and having it be clear it's not about beating him but surviving him and not getting in his way. Still I feel Psycho Man also woulda been good since his tablet with Fear, Hate and Doubt coulda made for solid dramatic scenes or psychologically challenges to overcome but also coulda been used in small comedy doses if you had to.
>>146719378Neat suit
>>146704927If ant man shrank to the size of an atom on a beach ball would he be able to tell if it was flat or spherical?
>>146721110look flat I guess
>>146719703They even fought once in the comics
>>146718664because no one reads Nadia's solos + it doesn't count as the scandalous domestic abuse
Hank should be a mainstay of the West Coast Avengers. It fits him perfectly and it'd make WCA way more interesting to have him as a consistent presence.
>>146717861also not destroy Cassie's character or original actressalso also give Hope or Janet stuff to do or develop dammit the movie is called Ant-Man and the Wasp ffs
>>146717538though I gotta give him that the delivery of that scene was very good
>>146704927Which Ant-Man are we talking about here?
>>146717281Hank looks like a cockroach here
>>146704927How good are Ants anyway?
>>146713261>"...How could that man be the same person who hit his own wife?"My brother would fight me if he ever lost a video game duel when we were kids. Maybe it's because I was strong enough to subdue him, but I don't see why "the slap" is such a big deal for people.>>146713270>"I saw it on the internet."Janet herself is the only person on the team who could/would have leaked the footage.Bitch.>"He refused to have that illness treated out of pride."Hank refuses to take MEDS. Good on him.
>>146723401>Janet herself is the only person on the team who could/would have leaked the footage.Not footage of the slap, but the media coverage and gossip articles afterwards
>>146723267The best
>>146704927film adaptations tained Scott Lang.
>>146704927where is hank right now actually I mean the movies use him so why does it seem like the comics killed off all the other antmen to focus on scott
>>146724836Bro Scott was on the verge of perma-death if it not were for the movies
>>146724868Hank was revived but is an old man now
>>146725842how do they explain it besides lol synergy
>>146725842>Hank gets old>Agatha gets young>Tony Stark still isn't deadit's not fair
>>146725869He was combined with Ultron for years And then the Avengers imprisoned Ultron inside a Vibranium coffin enchanted with Asgardian RunesAnd then the coffin was hit by a Time Accelerator Ray that mixed it all together and sent Ultron into the future where he had become All-Father UltronAnd Hank used what tiny control he had over Ultron's subsconcious to control a small fraction of the All-Power to separate himself from All-Father Ultron and send himself back to the present. But it came at a cost and a small back up of Ultron came along for the ride
>>146725879Marvel just does whatever the fuck, it sucks
>>146725908>>146723044
>>146725879>>Agatha gets youngfunny how AAA ended with her as an old lady
>>146719378WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
>>146727980mobile game skin
Pym Particles, son.
>>146727457Marvel Comics and Marvel Studios have like no communication between each other is insane.
>>146725170Shrinking shit really is an useful power
Cool design
>>146722561Yeah, Quantumania's whole problem is that it doesn't do a good job at establishing and resolving the character arcs of the cast, Scott and Cassie don't really address their personal issues, the plot takes over and they are fine by end because they just survived a near death experience. There's so much meat to the missing 5 years between Scott and Cassie that one would think that would be a huge plot point when facing Kang, a guy that controls time.
>>146725170that black and yellow outfit of hers is real sex
>>146704927What are some good runs to read as a Janetfag??? I picked up Avengers Assemble for her but she’s barely in it. Surely there was a point in history where she was ACTUALLY a key player in her stories right???? I’m also interested in a Hankschizo arc rec because im currently reading tales to astonish and he’s just a normal scientist, i started reading because i heard he was a depressed sperg loser.
Want to see a version of Hank Pym where he never met Jane and goes full mad scientist. He gets so insane to the point where becomes Hanks version of The Maker (but without the obsession of fucking Hanks over like The Makers hate boner for himself but still a menace).
Our HERO
>>146714121>still wearing the helmet
>>146732824now this is what I want more of, Hank as Giant-man fighting the giant monster roster of the Marvel universe
>>146732835It's not the same, but I'm reminded of that alt-universe Hank from an issue of Exiles where he his team of scientists traveled the world researching and containing kaiju as an homage to the SSSP from Ultraman
>>146732845ok but that is the fucking tits though, I'm a slut for Ultraman and having Hank, Janet maybe some other marvel characters as an SSSP equivalent having to track marvel kaiju, aliens and villains in that ball park would be rad
>>146732862Looking back the team consisted of>Bolivar Trask (the flatscan who invented Sentinels)>Curt Conners>Hank Pym>a Japanese lady I don't recognizeand their other staff
No Pym Particles for kaiju wrasslin' but they did have this
>>146732871they even have the fucking uniforms it's so intentional I kinda love it, Bolivar Trask as a member is odd but know you have me thinking that Hank Pym and Curt Connors working together would be a fun idea as scientists with mental problems haunted by consequences of their scientific progress. Though Hank still quite likes ants while Connors has kind of grown to hate reptiles despite it being his main area of expertise besides all round science.
>>146732883YOOOOOO motherfucking Red Ronin from the Marvel Godzilla run, shame it got destroyed in the Zodiac miniseries. Speaking of that series wish marvel would utilize Dr Demonicus in the modern stuff at all or flesh out what happened after the Betans and Megans war finally ended thanks to Godzilla.
>>146732828Ant-people are into some freaky shit
>>146732968They for sure are going to add Ant-Man in the game, the good thing is that there'a a lot of potential for skins
This is cursed, Nadia looking like MCU's Hope on a story set in 616 with Scott.
>>146734433It's about time for Scott to get lucky again.
>>146717538>>146718151UndeadHumor is better.
>>146734755Anon, she's like the same age as Cassie
>>146734042true plus just sheer moveset possibilities and could see his Ult either being turning giant or just a fuckoff ton of Ants.
>>146732824Well look at that >>146734564 think we'll see some giant vs kaiju action soon?
>>146736079We'd netterI wanna see a Scott and Cassie do a father-daughter double lariat once before I die
>>146736492*better
>>146736492That would be so cool, we really need more Kaiju fights with the AntFam
>>146732251There was a point when she was the leader of the Avengers yes
>>146732099That Wasp costume was designed by the same artist who gave us Sue's boob window costume in FF, and it's like a prototype of that design in a lot of ways. Sadly it only lasted for one issue, but it lives on in fan art.
I like this Wasp costume
>>146728558This may not be unlikely since they revealed that Pym Particles can give you super strength at your normal size.
>>146732883They use them to shrink Godzilla in the OG Marvel comic. Then he gets lost on the sewar and fights rats. For little guy action I prefer the 70’s Micronauts.
I respect Henry Pym
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NjCzbfz-Lw
>>146738131Yo thanks this will be good as a ref when comm any art of her in this getup
>>146739229Hank and Firestar is an underrated friendship, I wish they interacted more since seeing this page so often
>>146739260Why is Hank punching Kong?
>>146739229Meanwhile, the "worlds smartest man"....
CHOOSE
>>146739538You don't have to knock Reed down here. He'sa good guy too.
>>146739544It's hard to remember and keep track of them all mentally but reading my latest epic collection I really like this number here.
>>146739530he already punched a dinosaur, it's only fair.
>>146739580It's really nice!To me it's less of a superhero costume and more of a snazzy uniform, which suits her fashion designer backgroundThe collar even works as a big "W", kinda
>>146739611Yeah spiffy simple details like that count for a lot. Things you don't realize but your brain registers. Her EMH outfit had a few hidden and not so hidden Ws too.
>>146739594Fair
>>146738275Ah yes, the Pym Particles control more than size and mass thing
>>146738131>That Wasp costume was designed by the same artist who gave us Sue's boob window costume in FFHe clearly had good taste
>>146704983yeah
>>146738131post more costumes
>>146742731posting random jan costumes
>>146743246Once started charting her costumes, but she has over twenty outfits from her west coast guest appearances alone.
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>>146743337Kinda dig these weeb design
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>>146743464Jesus christ Wanda looks horrible. As in something from a horror story.
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>>146743710This design seems like a good match for Eric's Ant-Man suit, just need to change the colors
>>146743786What the hell
>>146704983not really
>>146739252Nice tunes
So guys, we know that superheroes don't have an actual "endgame" but what do you imagine would be the ideal end point for every Ant-Man? Like, what role or development would feel right for them to close their story, heroic sacrifice, retirement?
>>146746439Hank Pym ends up retiring after inventing stuff that improves life/change status quo of every day life to retire with Janet/whichever girl he hooks with while hanging with bugs every know and then as he goes back to researching bugs.
>>146746615I think Hank also becoming a mentor/teacher for the future generation like in Avengers Academy fits well, he can enjoy his retirement while guiding new heroes
>>146747410yeah exactly, that way you can give him a nice end but give him nice moments of suiting up once or twice to help out on a villain if his students are in over their heads but still be sure to give a reason he doesn't do it all the time. Avengers Arena should've been the first issue but as Mettle is about to be blasted, Hank makes Arcade eat shit as he dismantled his entire operation while he was fixated on killing kids to prove he's not a loser and then without his cheating bullshit just gets jumped by these very fucking angry teenagers.
>>146747526>while he was fixated on killing kids to prove he's not a loserNever gave Avengers Arena a chance and only have second hand knowledge, was this really Arcade's motivation? That sounds really pathetic lol
>>146748697Yeah essentially on his birthday the villains that go openly shit on him and say they are just their for the food and drink, my bro Constrictor in particular.The funny thing is Arcade is smug after arena but then Zemo and several of the same villains shit on him even more for killing kids and uploading it like they are meant to be impressed he couldn't cut it with experienced heroes and then painted an even bigger target by being a child killer.
>>146744764The Crossing
>>146743786Oh hey it's that storyline that killed my gal Rita.....fuck The Crossing
>>146749485That was the girl Yellow Jacket right? yeah shame. God what a dumb story. Teen Tony? The fuck where they thinking.
>>146749357>>146749485qrd on what happened in The Crossing?
>>146749533TL:DR version. Tony Stark becomes evil because Kang and Mantis from bad future mind controlled him to kill girl Yellow Jacket and shoot Wasp. Hank used science to try and save Wasp and she became monster warp. Tony Stark died but they replaced him with a time displaced teenager version of himself. Then Onslaught happened, which sucked, and everyone became Heroes Reborn, which also sucked, and then something something Franklin Richards and the heroes came back and it was like none of this happened and we got the wonderful Busiek run where Tony and Wasp were back to normal.
>>146749525The only time teen Tony worked was Ironman Armoured Adventures but that's because they build around him being younger and does great with his cast, villains and has top notch character design. Also yeah was Yellowjacket, they killed her and it's worse cause Thunderbolts was gonna use her and give her more backstory but that obviously fell through.
>>146749624>Yellowjacket, they killed her and it's worse cause Thunderbolts was gonna use her and give her more backstory but that obviously fell through.Bummer. That'd have been a good fit.
>>146749636Yeah especially since she was one of the founding Masters of Evil in the Under Siege story which the Thunderbolts roster mostly draws from, just a damn waste since I really like her. I wish she got to interact with Hank Pym since that coulda been a very fun dynamic and her simping coulda been funny since now Wasp has to see what she put Pym through with her flirting with other guys.
>>146749624>>146749810Would she have been on the initial roster alongside Atlas or instead of?
>>146750558I think she either would've taken Jolt or Songbirds character position/role in the story I've guessed with another anon
They share the same brain cell
>>146704927He beat down Kang so hard he cancelled him from the MCU forever, he has all of my respect.
>>146714013>h-he's good in non-canon spinoff slopTruly Antcucks are pathetic.
>>146714114Difference is that it became a core part of Hank's character that he was a deranged wife beater while it wasn't for Spidey.
>>146753850do you let buzzwords make up all your points and thinking faggotini, cause if so then anything you say is worthless to anyone who can read or speak more then 2 sentences. Motherfuckers find out about the word slop and cuck thinking it makes them above actual proper thought and engagement.
>>146753858Ultimate Hank is proof why you need people to actually remind hack writers how a character is actually meant to be and not some flanderisation based on one panel.
>>146753850A cartoon adaption isn't a spinoff retard, also use real points instead of calling media you've not seen or engaged a drop of slop, you wanna shit on something know what you are talking about
>>146746439For Scott, I think the best would be for him to finally be successful with his small security company and make it grow into a respectable institution in the heroic community because it could become the best route to reform ex-super crooks and villains' henchmen. It could also rival Taskmaster's goon school from way back.
>>146749525>The fuck where they thinking.>"Marvel's execs are going to outsource our books to Jim Lee and Rob Liefeld and we're all going to lose our jobs if we don't do something immediately to get attention on our books and spike sales."Their backs were against the wall and they were desperate. Once you know that, it's hard to be mad at them.To be honest, there were some good ideas and new characters around that time, but what they did to Tony and Jan was so hated it just overshadowed everything else, and led to later writers just sweeping it all away, even the stuff with potential.
>>146743652>Jesus christ Wanda looks horrible. As in something from a horror story.I was halfway through typing an explanation of it being her "villain costume" in Heroes Reborn that she just kept wearing afterwards, then I enlarged the picture and realized what you meant. Heroes Reborn started out with star artists but Jim Lee was just getting Literally Who? guys to draw some of the later books.
>>146754789The weird thing is that the other people don't actually look THAT bad, just 90s. Then you get to Wanda and the proportions, angles and everything just makes her look like a demon wearing a contorted flesh suit. I suppose She-Hulk looks fine because she's a hulk and wasn't meant to look "slim", and Janet is wearing armour so same thing there? It's kind of funny that Janet's armour is a bikini with two hands spreading her legs apart. Stellar design.
>>146754026yeah it sucked
>>146739554>i cant cure cancer but i did make this telepathy machinesuper science fucking sucks
>>146739554ONLY two million dollars and it's not some complicated medical procedure implanting them into a single person, but an ear piece that could be passed on? For something that would be a goddamn miracle for anyone with various forms of paralysis, damage or muscle problems? Don't be an asshole hogging the invention and let the world's governments club together to make them affordable, you fuckhead!
>>146755099at least new Ultimates Hank is pretty good, has my fave helmet design for Ant-Man getup, though my fave Hank costume is still the Avenger's Academy Giant-man costume.
>>146755185Osborn made the cure for Cancer solely so he could have a way to kill Deadpool. Wakanda has it to but hordes it cause fuck those cunts, hope aliens rock their shit in and make them look like idiots.
>>146755292The new Ultimate Hank and Jan seem nice and they do have good designs.
>>146755851them being a happy healthy couple is very refreshing and the bit with them being exterminators but also clearly caring for the Moloids rights as sapient beings did a lot to sell them.
>>146755297>Osborn made the cure for Cancer solely so he could have a way to kill Deadpool.The length of time it would have taken to make something like that, he must have been working on it long the Dark Reign era where Deadpool was even on his radar as a threat. Presumably whatever he'd made wasn't enough of a workable cure to release and make money out of, but was something he could re-purpose to almost kill Deadpool.
>>146754869It's probably just an attempt to draw a sexy pose that ended in absolute failure. Honestly it would be nice to go back to a time when the worst thing that could happen to Wanda was just that she'd somehow be the one character on a page who was drawn terribly.
>>146754099Cassie should become a full time Avenger ala MC2 since that's what she always wanted
>>146751802Lol
>>146714166He also proved himself superior to Egghead
>>146757238>He also proved himself superior to EggheadBy growing hair?
>>146704927he doesnt have an ant eater themed villain
>>146757577He's got the porcupine, that counts right?
>>146757486By creating the mechanism to defeat the Masters of Evil by himself under the very nose of Egghead.Also, the hair.
how
>>146758392porcupine should team up with an anteater themed villain
>>146757577would he be a mutant hybrid, costumes criminal, cyborg or other option?
>>146759778Ants
>>146761088he would be a human that got fucked up after a lab accident
>>146761370ANTSANT-MAN
>>146705230>best costume>doesn't even have the helmet
>>146762898The head of the costume looks like an Ant though with the lil eyes/antenna and that's real neat.
>>146762616What a babe
>>146764209The most important detail for Rita is she have DSL's to match her figure
>>146743265>over twenty outfitsliterally made for each other
>>146760527OUR HEROES
>>146765276and Yellowjacket!
>>146713261>>146713270its crazy that janet put herself in the yellowjacket situation and just skirts that shit like he just all of a sudden was acting crazy instead of being imbalanced enough to say that hank pym was dead. shes a piece of shit and so is stark for that matter
>>146766060I hope once Hank is young again and back into heroism finds himself a better social group and support from others that won't backstab him or slander him utterly.
>>146715494>The fact that he never got on medication or got therapy or noticed when he was getting into a manic state and became a danger to other people is the problem.thats bullshit though. it wasnt like hank being unhinged was dropped on her. she knew his mind was gone and she still moved forward with marrying him. she could have sought out a means to help him, but he didnt. and its constantly thrown back in his face. very few characters in marvel constantly have their mistakes thrown back at them like hank does. spider man did a similar thing and that shit is forgotten. stark has done absolutely terrible things on and off of alcohol, and its never brought up. captain america was a dictator that rased vegas and noone cares. but that slap;? it was enough for stark to say that it was the turning point in the avengers not being a family anymore. its crazy to me that with the world being in the space where people with mental health issues get praised, hank is still the only marvel character burdened with past sins. they even allowed wanda to be forgiven before him.
>>146766189Maybe Hank and Wanda should try being friends, it'd be like a buddy cop dynamic of a scientist and a sorceress but both united by history of mental health, robot relations and being shat needlessly by writers and characters a like unfairly.
>>146766120he wont. he ultimately seeks validation from those that have hurt him. if he would have tried a little harder jan wouldnt have been hurt. if he wasnt a failure she wouldnt have ran into starks arms. if he wasnt such a trash human than ultron wouldnt have turned out wrong. to him, no matter what he does, he;ll never outrun those sins. what he needs to do(kinda like what they left him with at the end of avengers inc) is let him be a leader of a team of redeemers, villainous characters and fallen heroes that really want to change their ways and be better people.
>>146719378why does that ant man have a memory driver on? does he transform like a rider?
>>146766248I initially thought you were just shitting on him but I don't hate the idea of Hank playing team wrangler/leader ad therapist to some supervillains that he's trying to redeem. I could see the lineup being Blizzard, Absorbing Man/Titania from Gamma Flight, Armadillo and maybe Beetle/Janice Lincoln on recommendation from Scott.
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>>146766244theyre technically family by way of the vision. but that would be dope. just dealing with crazy shit while also dealing with each others crazy shit>>146766304 i really want moonstone on this team. like she does it because its not as chaotic as the thunderbolts is, she plans on completing it and doing her thing, until she realizes that she likes being a hero
>>146766413I was gonna mention Moonstone funny enough since I needed to think of members who were no hopers/not as redeemable but still go along. If Rita was still around I'd have her in to since I think the idea of her and Hank interacting would be a lot of fun. Constrictor or a Serpent Society member I'd throw in since I'm biased towards them also.
>>146766413Aye could be a lot of fun overall in a Hank and Wanda teamup like moving science and magic threats, Grim Reaper facing them since has loose connection to both and maybe bonding over some past events even maybe thinking on times they've briefly met or things weren't around for
>>146768804awwww the Ants are the only people who never faulter in appreciating Hank
>>146768804>>146768827Ants make good friends
>>146769024yeah, always give you sugar, will watch ant films with you, kinda feel bad not been the best to ants myself.
>>146768827That reminds of when Hank had the delusion that the ants were putting him on trial for sacrificing so many ant lives in the name of heroics. Can't remember the issue though.
>>146769252I'm now just imagining a shrunken Hank in tears hugging every ant in his vicinity
>>146743265I feel like they were drawing her with a new costume every issue
>>146769024
Busiek seemed to treat them well
>>146769287aw this is actually genuinely charming, plus Hank should fight Psycho-man more. I'd love if Ants were just sentient in 616 Marvel also as a part of the settings wackyness
You have to have Hank Pym take a villain from another rogues gallery into his, who do you take and why?
>>146704927He physically assaulted my wife and abandoned my (step) daughter. So he can eat shit.
>>146770361Whirlwind shut the fuck up and get back to sweeping the Bar with No Name
>>146705315Scott has all the best designs, but Hank has always been the one that I like the most
>>146769312Busiek was the GOAT
>>146769367Sometimes they are sentient, rare but it happens
>>146771264Pym particle exposure I reckon gives some sentience
>>146770361>>146770390Lmao
>>146705990>>146713336Hes literally me FR
>>146770510Why is ant booty so huge?
>>146769252Found it. Join me for a short tale of Hank Pym going crazy theatre.
>>146772580the real insanity was original goliath costume
>>146772600
>>146772612
>>146772625
>>146772640
>>146772652
>>146772664oh hank no
>>146772680
>>146772698Big Fin means Big End, and I'm fine means I'm not fine at all
>>146772600>the real insanity was original goliath costumeI have to agree, it has never been my favorite. But not as insane as those jacked ants lol
>>146772640They just did they slap off-panel
>>146772612>lady antWOULD
>>146770361your wife is a whore, and does he even know nadia exists?
>>146772612ok....that's kind of a cute ant
>>146776432shoes are for humans, that's a wasp
>>146775703>>146770361Nadia was a stupid character and much like Gwenpool only carried by cute Japanese art team people
>>146772713He is a hero, our HERO
>>146777921
If Hank or Scott had a new solo which villains would you want to use?
>>146779206I think Alistair Smythe might be fun as a foe considering his hordes of lil drones, fun armoured design making for a physical threat and also being a smart foe for Hank instead of a dumb thug.
>>146779206Egghead
>>146779206Borrowing some villains, bring in Deathweb as some mid level mercenaries.
>>146779206Clash/Clayton Cole might make a good foe since he's a sort of friendly criminal but also a genius with sonic tech so might make for someone Hank empahsises and tries to talk down instead of just think nothing of beating him
>>146779206Swarm was planning something with the Bug Lords so maybe him
>>146779206Black Ant and Tasky should always be part of the action even if they are not the main villains
>>146781383O'Grady has a point, Maria Hill is a pretty banging babe, especially her Disk War and Ironman Armored Adventure versions.
This show was by all accounts pretty shit but the fact that someone pushed and made a show where Hank was the lead avenger does make me smile. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS13aWX9osM
>>146781411It was a bold idea, too bad the show wasn't very good
>>146781887It's a pretty good idea since it makes Ultron a more prominent and personal for if the lead Avenger is his creator Hank plus it lets him show his character qualifications/insecurities in a more frontlines manner. If only a better show or comic run went with the idea of him as Main Avenger/leader
>>146772600>the real insanity was original goliath costumeWanda made that costume for Hank in case he ever returned to the team.
>>146781566Cool head
>>146782735thanks, it's funny friends shown the comm said mask looks creepy but I like the idea that Hank tried to make it look friendly but still accurate since he's an ant autist, gave me funny idea of him trying to be comforting to a bus full of kids he's saved in big form while they're crying and screaming at his ant face
>>146779206Ultron, again.
>>146783546Alkhema deserves another shot
>>146784430Whatever happened to her "son"? Anaxagorias I think? He was some kind of next generation machine that was almost human (like vision but better?) From Ultron Unlimited I wanna say?
>>146782805>Hank tried to make it look friendly but still accurate since he's an ant autist, gave me funny idea of him trying to be comforting to a bus full of kids he's saved in big form while they're crying and screaming at his ant faceHa, sounds like an hilarious idea for a scene, maybe Hank would consider to change his mask design for a more friendly look but probably his ant autism would win in the end
>>146704927but i do
>>146777136I thought Nadia was fine in the mini series with Scott from way back
>>146778938Helmet plus labcoat is a good combo
>>146781411Kinda sas the prototype for Mighty Avengers. God, how I wish an AntFam book was a thing, there are currently many Ant-people running around but Marvel barely does anything with them
>>146785524aye will be fun to have artist eventually also do his Yellowjacket design since thinking of having the sci-fi gun he has look like a stinger and for the mask to match this one somewhat in being more insect looking. Hank seems like the kind of guy who likes an aesthetic regardless how others feel, probably wouldn't hurt Janet is supportive but also doesn't want to make him feel bad about bug looking masks, treating insects as kindly as he treats people or being cordial to nearly every villain they face.
>>146788770that one anon suggesting the AntFam as a sort of Super Sentai styled team was onto something
>>146788787We need some drawfriends to materialize this idea
>>146789610Yeah could have a tokusatsu redesigned Ultron looming over them or just have the focus on the Sentai style team of Hank, Janet, Scott, Cassie and Nadia probably. I'd have Rita as the sort of rival/anti-hero Sentai role
>>146789819Rita sounds good for that role, and the Ultronbots could also work as the usual foot soldiers
>>146790528Aye Ultron's mass production models do fit perfectly for the combatant role plus Living Laser and Whirlwind could be named recurring villains. Egghead I could see as either an independent villain or the initial main villain who gets subjugated Into Ultron's snivelling lackey/IT support.
>>146757577>he doesnt have an ant eater themed villainEgghead once tried to use an actual ant eater to kill Ant-Man.
>>146787863A trench coat is good too
>>146788787Damn straight
>>146793095gonna Rider Kick through Ultron like a bullet through Frank Castle's wife and kids
>>146704927Ant-Man is not cool.
>>146794335>Ants are cool>Man is coolAnt-man is clearly cool
>>146794460True
>>146772664cool monstrous version of yellowjacket
>>146791962He could have saved them...
>>146792652Cassie as Stature looks older than how she is now
>>146797576
>>146797868Oh she looks fine there
>>146781383What are these 2 niggas doing now?
>>146787863For real
>>146799355Just being mercenaries for hire mostly
>>146704927I do, he's a fuck-up. Not even the best tiny hero.
>>146788787A Sentai team with shrunken heroes has been done before. Basic premise is that the Sentai team is the same size as the merch.Also, apparently there's a 65-episode Micronauts cartoon that was completed but not released.
>>146779206If I was to dreg up a villain, SODAM. Reveal that she actually was Maria, the MODAM that showed up later was just a brainwashed decoy. Then make the whole Pym family suffer the drama. Maybe have her teamup with Pymtron once just to make things weird.
>>146714121I don't like how cavalier her attitude is. It actually enrages me. Her being so cavalier about being a whore and then denigrating herself.>I'm sleeping with divorcees now!You don't get to neg him by owning yourself for so easy to get into bed, Beetle. That isn't cute behavior.
>>146803335I mean she is a supervillain and not even one of the nice ones
>>146802927>>146803307We need more ant-man animation
>>146803546
>>146802927o7 to that hamster
I do, but ant-man hasn't used pym particles to help solve my migraine.I just don't go about shilling for him, that's all. I still respect him a lot more than that creepy Richards fella.
Reminder that Scott is still a hobo living in an anthill
>>146804240Lies
>>146704927Anti man
>>146704927He doesn't
>>146806517that's not grammatically correct as a form of response to the question
>>146804773He should live in a tiny house
>>146807084Or an ant farm
When the time comes I think I'll storytime Ant-Man's Big Christmas
>>146801666>there's a 65-episode Micronauts cartoon that was completed but not released.There's a fucking what
>>146801666>>146808788What vault do we have to break in to see that cartoon
What a nice man
>>146809831So there's a rumor that Marvel planned in the late 70's to make an Ant-Man solo series after the debut of Scott but plans fell through because John Byrne, who would be in charge of the pencils, grew dissatisfied the involvement of Bob Layton who would work on the finished art work and inks, so much that Byrne quit, canceling the book before it even began
Honestly the most freaky thing about Wasp is how her wings are implants that Hank gave to Janet, they are a part of her and not a suit.
>>146772713Hank is never fine
>>146801666>>146808788>>146809146No seriously, is there a source on this?
>>146779206create an actual ant eater themed villain
>>146812899>Eric Rogers, the Co-Creator, Executive Producer, and Show Runner on it recently said in a series of tweets talking about the Wrtiter's Guild Strike that it been written off for tax purposes after being shelved.>"Great post from my former staff writer on Micronauts. The studio keeping a show on the shelf after we had almost no support staff after 3 years of some of my/our best work ever turned that time into a 52 episode gig job. 3 years of a job that doesn’t exist… 1/">"Because the studio decided it should be a tax write off and had ZERO consideration for the humans involved and literally erased our careers for those years b/c we have nothing to show for all of our hard work.">"THAT is what writers are fighting to stop. Now and for the future.">"Hasbro. They didn't even bother selling the show to a network/distributor. Had us make 2 seasons of content and then... zippity zilch.">"Just sitting on a shelf since Jan. 2020, my dude. Completely produced. And it was GOOD. There was no reason for the studio to not air, especially during a pandemic when everyone was home, other than their greed in wanting to make a movie first... a movie they can't get made."
>>146810659>Byrne hated working with Layton THAT MUCH>Marvel cancelled the whole book rather than just change the art teamMistakes were made.
>>146804384nah he cheese was squishy, he's fine
>>146811471She also has antennae that let her control insects (which she never uses), and had Hank implant bio-electric blaster organs in her rather than rely on the air cannons of her original costumes.
>>146815453Janice Lincoln's great, honestly keep her out of Spider-Man at the moment and have her do some ANTagonisong
>>146813813Damn, we could have had something good. Reminds me how Alan Moore wanted to write an Ant-Man comic but Marvel wasn't sure it would sell
>>146816074How'd you think he'd sneak rape into the Ant-Man run? Think be Ultron or Whirlwind trying to on Wasp?
>>146816218Double team up, Ultron steals Pym Particles, binds Janet and shrinks Whirlwind so that he can do pic related. All while Ultron changes into a metal version of Janet.
Member this?
>>146816998Rita should take this name if she ever comes backSince it seems like we're stuck with Darren Cross as Yellowjacket indefinitely
>>146816998This being the most that's been done with Rita Demara is a shame since it's not a bad outfit but hate the hair
>>146814099God I love how Hank just gifts superpowers, he also eventually boosted Jan's shrinking powers to give her extra strength, plus her body adapted to her wings to the point she was able to use them without shrinking.
>>146817084
>>146817014>>146817017Yeah not a bad look, just change the hair and we good
>>146817171At least her vital lips are still in top form, it is a cool outfit but doesn't fit her career crime/reluctant heroine vibe but I still like it.
>>146816998she would look a lot better without those tacticool details
Another thing that I find freaky but neat about Pym Particles is the effect they have on the body, long exposure to the formula or the right procedure can cause Pym Particles to become part of the body and it will naturally produce them without the need of a suit or the old gas canisters. For example, how Cassie discovered that her repeated attempts to expose herself to Pym particles over the years resulted in her eventually gaining size changing powers.
>>146817359cool
>>146816735What did he mean by "your turn"?
>>146704927I miss Hank
>>146818485clearly she shrinks and plays with his penis duh, work it like a stripper pole
>>146818489Soon...
Ultimate Pym is his best version>Millar doubling down on domestic violence and with that he ended up making one of the most realistic depictions of domestic violence in comics>He's smart but not that smart I feel Millar gave him a bit of Scott Lang traits Millar managed to rehabilitate a domestic abuser, which 616 never was able to do
>>146705990He showed up in The Initiative around the same time, and generally continued being based.
>>146704927because he slapped his wife once ages ago so ill demonize him for eternity
>>146819189Not sure chief, having Hank spray a can of raid at Jan and sending an at swarm after her to teach her a lesson is not something I really want to see. Besides, Ultimate Pym didn't have his best trait, creating Ultron
>>146819189>which 616 never was able to doprobably because he's not a domestic abuser
Any fans of Secret Avengers Reminder/Hardman?
>>146820768>And I didn't think twice about it.
>>146820768Me, Valkyrie and Venom were top. Also I miss Escorpio.
>>146819189>Hey you know character flanderisation based of a panel and tacky hack edge lord writing that is total assasination of how they're meant to be portrayed which doesn't factor their actual characterisation, yeah that's the best versionfuck off shit eater
>>146820703I swear it's one person that keeps coming in here to beat the dead horse of slandering him as an abuser or in this case bring up an awful version that's a shittly written parody based on said moment that removes all depth, nuance or actual character he fucking has.
>>146820768
>>146820809That's why I don't think Eric fits going full evil, a bad guy for hire sure I could see that but not a monster. And now he's still dead while a robot copy of him is running around
>>146820768Was Remender forced to do major crossover event Axis or something? The guy was gold, Uncanny X-Force, Venom, Secret Avengers, even Uncanny Avengers. Mostly got great artists, too, then he basically disappears. Don't even see him brought much in discussions. Axis felt unlike him.
>>146822027X-fans have it out for Remender for some reason
>>146822027>Was Remender forced to do major crossover event Axis or something?He was, though I think he came up with concept for Axis as an arc for one of his books, but Marvel made him turn it into a big event. Plus, apparently much of the things he wrote for it were altered by editorial. It's essentially what made him quit Marvel.>>146822127They have it out for him because of the "Call me Alex" speech. Can't have mutants be more than their race after all.
>>146822511yeah he was more and more right about that ever since the current state of X-men/it's insufferable audience but also surprised since he wrote Magneto killing Red Skull without his powers which people have eaten up.
>>146817359To be fair I think that the Future Foundation said that the Lang family bloodline was genetically inclined to manipulate Pym Particles on all 3 AxesThat's why Scott figured out the Strength enhancementThey even considered digging up Cassie's body to see if she had inadvertently used the Pym Particles to self resurrect as an Ionic being like Wonder Man
>>146813606Armadillo
>>146823211be better then being shat on by Bendis, could use the interaction with heroes who will take him somewhat seriously.
>>146823054So this means that the Pym-Van Dyne and Lang bloodline need to mingle so the ultimate Pym Particles user can be born?
>>146823352god i hate bendis
>>146823655We don't need to make the family tree more weird
>>146821407Okey but where's the Goth Wasp
>>146825980
>>146823211a real anteater>>146823352what did he do with armadillo?
>>146704927So does he can control all kinds of ants?If so, which is the best ants?
>>146812899Some news articles here:https://movieweb.com/micronauts-completed-series-canceled-by-hasbro-comepleted-51-episodes/https://www.gamesradar.com/entertainment/animation-shows/micronauts-tv-show-creator-finished-four-years-ago-hasbro/https://www.ign.com/articles/micronauts-animated-series-live-action-tv-series-movie
>>146827233>"When fate brings an unlikely team of alien space explorers to earth in pursuit of the evil Baron Karza, they make a shocking discovery - on our world they are the size of action figures!" explains a Hasbro marketing kit. "The Micronauts are small heroes in a big world but the stakes are higher than ever as their miniaturized size presents dangerous obstacles at every turn. Fortunately, they forge an alliance with teenager Cameron Ruck, who will join them in their pursuit of justice. Although the Micronauts are small in stature, their bravery and adventurous spirits remain larger than life."
>>146827264The Micronauts were based off the Japanese Microman line. It sounds like the new Micronauts cartoon had the same premise as the Microman anime from 1999.
>>146825980The OG Hope
>>146826599Generally write him as a joke to be easily taken down by Miles, Riri and other heroes and made fun of fof his choice of Alias until Jessica Jones issue but even then that issue despite meant to develop him still shits on him the whole time
>>146813606Ant-Eater; a mad scientist in pursuit of his own amoral scientific goals, he uses biologically augmented and created insect servants, ranging from small to gigantic (he also likes to snack on the smaller ones). He has carved out a laboratory-fortress in Subterannea. Has an assistant working as his proxy on the surface, running a company, she is allied with the Ant-Eater because he continually augments her with new powers and she uses his discoveries to make herself rich.Maybe an exile from the High Evolutionary's New Men, like the Hippo. Or just a human with a creepy elongated anteater like mask. perhaps an Egghead rebrand
>>146827421She was crazy
>>146827817>ant-eater gets full eating the ants>leaves Hank alonecool plan dummy
>>146823054>Let's dig up the corpse of Cassie just to check if she can come back with an Ionic body, in the name of science.Gruesome idea but it has potential of working out, maybe with a touch of mad science. I'm not sure how to feel about the fact that Pym Particles in theory could potentially give people Wonder Man tier powers, it sounds cool but also overpowered. I'm more comfortable with that being a last resort Hail Mary, with the potential to kill the person that's harnessing that level of power, like how Scott said that performing the strength feat to beat Doom took a such a toll on his body that he could not use Pym Particles for months.Though, the idea of an Ant-Man and Wasp energy forms that resembles their suits, composed of kirby krackle makes for a cool image in my head.
>>146830073It's only really successfully worked for Wonder Man and AtlasAnd Simon had to die before it actually activated for him
How come they never gave Scott Lang a solo comic until 2015?
>>146830198Marvel didn't have much faith
>>146704996A N T I S
>>146831122More like mantis lol
>>146830198One of the few times I was grateful for synergy desu
>>146830519Such a shame
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>>146831765For real, synergy brought him back from the grave
>over 10 daysThis is how you know Ant-Man is garbage.
>>146833792Your favorite hero could never get a 10 day appreciation thread
>>146833792by lasting longer then most threads and making bitches like you seethe? I'd say that's the mark of a good hero
>>146830198>>146830519Marvel always had a hard time selling an Ant-Man solo title, for different reasons. Even back in the Silver Age it struggled for a while and added many things to reinvigorate the title like Wasp, or turning Hank into Giant-Man.It seems there were plans for Scott when he first appeared but they never came to fruition and he was stuck as being a supporting character in other books, although sometimes he would be given a prominent role like back in the 90's with the Fantastic Four while Hank became an Avengers mainstay, suit or not. It probably was a combination of lack of confidence in the characters and at the same time not having writers interested in writing for them, while the ones that were interested in writing them were already using them but not in a solo. Buy Marvel's lack of confidence was for sure a big factor, like how didn't they believe an Ant-Man comic by Alan Moore would sell.
>>146834305Fucking Marvel
>>146834305Remember when Marvel tried again and shrunk Hank for a while so that he can be Ant-Man again
>>146827233>>146827264The fact that this is complete and just collecting dust somewhere because of a tax write-off is grim
>>146833866Why the fuck did they give Ultron lips?
>>146838177they didn't have faith that he could emote well enough through his voice and body I supposebasically part of the reason why these heroes keep taking off their masks and helmets in the middle of fights
DON'T DEADOPEN INSIDE
>>146838243>Place is called Pym Fallsheh
>>146837101It means that it wasn't seen as profitable. Which means something was going wrong about producing toys for the show.The characters aren't even recognizable. Especially compared to the Micronauts cartoon pitch from about a decade ago.
>>146833866No, he'd hit bump limit in a couple of days instead.>>146834180Long-lasting threads are a bad thing on a board of this speed. It means it's constantly and worthlessly being necrobumped.
>>146838879This is copium
>>146838671That villain design is pretty awesome
>>146838879>It means it's constantly and worthlessly being necrobumped.my brother you made a post an hour after the last oneyou zoomies don't understand the value of a good, slowburn discussion>a board of this speedah yes, better make way for more east vs west threads, waifufaggotry, twitter screencap threads, and peridot assholes
>>146838879If a thread can be kept alive for days by a handful of autist, it means one or two things, either the board already is slow as fuck or antCHADS are dedicated bunch
>>146838893Thinking a long-lasting thread is a good thing is copium.>>146838919I support any comic book thread, even if I think little of the topic at hand. I necrobumped this thread from page 10 myself once or twice, and that was days ago. Someone's been doing it since then.>>146838962The board is not that slow. So it's maybe one or two Ant-Fags keeping it alive. The only other threads that stay up this long are the most bottom-of-the-barrel coom or drawfag bait threads. This thread is obviously not nearly as bad, but it's not a very good sign. Still, I'm glad it lasted as long as it did.
>>146839038I've been monitoring the thread for days and bumping when I can, problem is that I can't post or discuss in depth as much as I would like since I have a grueling 10 hour shift that leaves me exhausted by the end of the day. I wish I had more free time like before...Anyway, ANTS is a way of life so, I'll always be posting when I can. Oh and this christmas eve/day i'll try to storytime the Marvel special, Ant-Man's Big Christmas and everyone is invited
>>146839293Saved
Good thread lads, until next time
