They tried it with RWBY. It was popular initially but fell off when it got bogged down in politics and rainbow shit and then the company went under

>>146739372
Also its creator died somewhere in between all that.

>>146739141
You are never going to make something better than Kingdom Hearts. The fuck you on about nigguh?

you can't imitate Nomura's autism

Also isn't the charm of KH interacting with a variety of Disney worlds? Can't really do that anywhere else.

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>>146739421
This, his autism is a special kind of autism.

>>146739141
is this still popular? I know it was huge in the 2000's

I'm still looking forward to KHIV, don't care what people say.

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>>146739451

>>146739457
The third game was the best selling in the series. It was multi-platform though, unlike the first two which were PS2 exclusives.

>>146739458
Me too. Don't listen to haters. People who claim to be KH fans online just hate everything.

>>146739457
Somehow. It basically went through its post Lucius Star Wars phase after 2 where each iteration/spinoff is hit or miss than the last with neither of them being as good as the PS2 originals. Right now its ironically in its Disney Star Wars phase of just shoving anything KH out the door.

>>146739493
I've only played the first two main games, never got to III, never played any of those spinoffs. I hear that IV is going to be a bit of a reboot. I'm curious if there will be Turning Red content in IV. Also Incredibles

Because Kingdom Hearts is earnest in a way people in the western entertainment industry can't seem to fathom or replicate. It’s a story about coming of age using aesthetics and storytelling from one franchise aimed at young adults and teens interacting with another aimed at children and it plays it completely straight. Mickey Mouse is portrayed as this competent, yet flawed character who wants the best for everybody- Nomura doesn't treat him as a corporate mascot to use as a mouthpiece. He's more respectful towards Walt's idea of Mickey being a malleable actor you can insert into situations than most people working at Disney these days.

Bugs Bunny wouldn't stand for it

>>146739556
Do you have a problem with Paul Rudish Mickey or something?

KH looked like the stupidest gayest shit ever I will never get it sorry, do the weebs who played it even cared about the Disney stuff in it or did they just miss NGE

>>146739556
Yeah the Japanese are pretty slavelike like that

Is The Owl House anything like Kingdom Hearts? how about Amphibia? Adventure stories. That's all I got.

>>146739141
Most cartoons nowadays are quirky teen isekai fantasy adventures with DARK lore

>>146739578
Those could probably fit in it
>>146739579
Because of this

>>146739571
I'd say the average American weeb ingests Disney with as much pleasure as anyone. I wonder more about the Japanese audience. Disney played second fiddle to Ghibli throughout the 90s in Japan.

>>146739593
I would say that they'll never have Disney TV animation in a Kingdom Hearts game but then again Pixar once seemed off limits as well.

>>146739571
Kingdom Hearts owns and is the coolest shit ever. Don't listen to Alex Hirsch

There's probably going to be Inside Out, Moana, and Zootopia stuff in IV. Just in time for those sequels lol.

>>146739723
>no one
>But they make money
whatever, anon.

>>146739512
It's not a reboot it's just a new story arc.

You should play the other games. I personally thought that DDD had SOUL. And kh3 had fun fighting. Some of the worlds in 3 are peak. Just some though.

>>146739578
No they're not.

>>146739775
>badly written
You're crazy. Also there is no multipuke.

>>146739820
>rhythm games
>mobile games
Can't imagine why these fllopped.

Do younger gamers want to play Kingdom Hearts at all? Or is it all just 30 year olds?

>>146739578
nah Owl House and Amphibia are mean spirited and occultist. Whereas Kingdom Hearts is uplifting and whimsical

>>146739421
I don't have to, I have my own. It's just sometimes aesthetically similar.
I came up with a concept for a manga-ish webcomic in like, a day. Granted I've added some more ideas for it since then, but I came up with the first and last arcs in a pretty short amount of time, and a few parts between them.
But it's not actually like Kingdom Hearts for the most part.

>>146739900
Yeah this might be a problem then. The audience got older but it's still Disney shit. Which might be fine if you're a kid but kids don't want to play KH

>>146739880
>How does Nomura present death in Kingdom Hearts? As a bigger joke than Dragon Ball. It's impossible to actually truly permanently die in Kingdom Hearts. You can be revived, you can time travel to stop your death, and if you die you reincarnate. Horrible writing.
Literally none of this is true though. The closest thing to this is Maleficent appearing in 2 but I think she just didn't die in the first place. Everyone else who ever "died" and came back didn't actually die. Xion Roxas and Axel never existed so they couldn't die.

>>146739844
Sora is in the real world which is more like the other side of the kh coin. It's more reality vs. unreality rather than multiple universes.
>Somebody else named Sora
You don't know that. Even if he did, how does that make it multipuke? It wouldn't be sora from le multiverse, it would just be somebody else from irl with the same name.

>>146739903
I don't know about Owl House, but I really wouldn't describe Amphibia as mean spirited or occultist, I could even see Amphibia as a kingdom hearts level honestly.

>>146739903
>mean spirited and occultist
ok Christfag

Anyone else think that when Roxas and Xion get into school Xion will have to ride the short bus and Roxas will be embarrassed to be her friend so at school he acts like he doesn't know her?

>>146740110
don't get me wrong i like those shows but it doesn't have the same level of camp that KH has, Sora would never summon Satan like Luz does

>>146739141
big feet

>>146739141
I have in no way watched one second of Demon Slayer but I assume that's what it's about

>>146739556
This. The west could never hope to reach this level of non-irony.
>ermmm is that le Donald Duck talking to le Sephiroth from FF7??? ermmm LE CRINGE??? WHAT THE SCALLOP??? BLUD THINKS HES ON THE TEAM FR
Unless western entertainment breaks out of this mentality, they're ngmi.

>>146741814
Seriously, only someone with a level of 'tism worthy of Chris Chan could pull this shit straight, but would also be unable to produce anything of note from all that' tism

>>146741814
4chan started the irony cringe fad when Kingdom Hearts was around. I blame you and other anons for all the Whedon/Gunn slop produced over the past decade.

>>146741857
Normies lap that Whedon/Gunn stuff up. If anything half of us find it completely exhausting.

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The main selling point is that it's a Disney crossover game.
Everything you listed is the stupid crap that people just tolerate. Only complete retards look at costumes like this and think it looks cool.

>>146741999
That's not from Kingdom Hearts, it's not even a Nomura design.
This is why the japs are raping you in entertainment. Kill yourself you disingenuous retard.

>>146742022
>Um ackshually
No one fucking cares, you faggot.
You completely missed the point that the only reason this gayass design has no impact but the Mickey mouse twink hybrid does is because of the Mickey mouse part, not the twink part.

>>146742037
No, it's because the "mickey mouse twink hybrid" was designed by an industry veteran with talent and vision that riffs on a tried and true concept with a unique and memorable twist.
You had to bring up unrelated shit because you know you have no argument. Retard.

If something with as many crossovers as kingdom hearts got a series, learning with pibby should be back on the menu.

>>146742059
Look, dick sucker.
Sora's design is fucking awful. Stupid shoes, stupid belts, weird chains all over the place with no goddamn purpose, the most hideous onesie in all of fiction, and a dumb weapon that makes zero goddamn sense even within its own lore.
The entire series rides off the success of actual franchises, and literally picks and chooses what settings it's going to use specifically based off of their previous commercial success.

Vision? Talent? Get the fuck out of here.
No one seriously likes KH for the characters themselves. They like its a Disney RPG with Simple and Clean constantly playing in the background.

>>146742151
The weapon makes complete sense it opens doors to other worlds, integral to the story

>>146742162
Whoooooa.... naruhodo, nomura-sama.
Sasuga

>>146742151
You're in the minority, niggerfaggot.
Sora's design is memorable and instantly recognizable, and if you really believed it was utter shit you wouldn't have posted a completely unrelated design by a different artist.

The Disney part is what gets people's initial attention, but everyone stays afterwards for the characters and the gameplay.
This retarded "durrrr jap games cringe" rhetoric would have worked in 2013, but not anymore. You're just a mental child that can't admit truth or see quality. Now go jerk off to your brave and stunning goyslop, trash.

>>146739141
Keyblade wielding Disney heroes or Disney Princesses should have been a thing.

>>146739421
Closest thing I saw that can matchup to it is Toro's autism with Black Souls but then again that is a completely different kind of autism altogether

>>146742172
>and if you really believed it was utter shit you wouldn't have posted a completely unrelated design by a different artist.
Haha, okay then.
I dare you to justify why >>146741999 is bad but sora is somehow good. I already listed off to you by both these designs suck ass.

>and the gameplay.
I can't argue with that. Gameplay is actually fun.

>This retarded "durrrr jap games cringe" rhetoric
Hey. Buddy. The thread's question was "Why hasn't it been imitated".
And the question has been answered already.
It's because no one actually likes Nomura's crap in the first place, they just tolerate it for the crossover. This isn't even anti-jap rhetoric. If you think it is, it's because you keep playing/watching stupid crap to begin with and you're probably used to getting (justifiably) mocked for your awful taste.

>>146742151
You are factually incorrect on nearly all points and also probably mtf

>>146742215
I mean, when you put it like that, I can see some parallels between the two, like a r-rated 'what if' Sora's suffering was turned up to 11 and beyond. It's like comparing an orange juice with oil

>>146742224
>dare you to justify why >>146741999 is bad but sora is somehow good
Simple. That design has no cohesion and is drowning in its own details. Sora's design has a defined silhouette and makes a solid image when you step back and allow the details to blur together. Tidus is another design that's been shittalked endlessly, yet you'd be able to instantly pick it out from a crowd. You see it once, and you never forget it. That's good character design.

Also, literally everyone likes Nomura's crap. Everyone. Even the people talking shit about it. You and your fellow discord troons are not representative of the average opinion. Not to mention that Nomura has a fuckton of stuff misattributed to him to begin with. I mean, there are still retards that think he writes his own games.

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>>146742274
>Sora's design has a defined silhouette
Oh I beg to differ. I promise you, >>146741999 is engrained in my mind just as much as Sora is. Being recognizable is necessary to being good, but it does not suffice being good.

>Tidus
HA HA HA HA HA.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
For real, are you trying to make my arguments for me?
I mean, thanks for giving another example of why turds can be recognizable. I guess.

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>>146739141
It's very much a product of it's time.
Final Fantasy was still relevant and well-liked thanks to the recent release of X and Disney hasn't yet transformed into the corporate abomination we know and despise today.
Kingdom Hearts literally couldn't be made today now that Squeenix is a shadow of it's former self and everyone lowkey hates Disney.

>>146741999
>>146742037
>>146742151
>>146742224
Joyless subhuman detected.

>>146739141
>Why hasn’t it been imitated?
It is, all the time. What sets KH apart isn't having a novel concept but how it's essentially a high budget Deviant Art fanfic by a guy who gives zero fucks about being called cringe.

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>>146742310
Oh no!?

>>146739556
This is another reason, yeah. Despite all the awkward silences, brain damaged characters and over-complicated world building KH never resorts to irony. It doesn't laugh at itself for how ridiculous it can be and takes itself 100% seriously at all times. There's comedy but it's not really done in a self mocking way. This form of authenticity is something that western writers struggle with in general.

>>146742304
>no argument
I accept your concession.

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>>146742305
I wish people hated Disney because if they did the shitty live action remakes would all fail. And Black Little Mermaid despite being a blatantly divisive race swap made a LOT of undeserved money.

And other movies like Wreck it Ralph 2, Incredibles 2, Toy Story 4, Monsters University, Moana 2, Inside Out 2, etc would fail. But sadly shit for brain normies still blindly buy into Disney media. Dreading hearing that incoming movies are all doing excellent at the box office. One or two failures will never kill the mouse.

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>>146739141
Probably for the best. Knowing Disney they'd probably make it like Wreck It Ralph 2 where they try to flex their IPs by shoving everything in. They'd forget they aren't writing an MCU movie and turn it into some meta multiverse shit.
>You see there are many worlds out there Sora. One in fact had a man made of iron and a great warrior with a shield.

Also you try explaining the clusterfuck plot of Kingdom Hearts to a Hollywood executive.

>>146742332
Hey, if you're this eager to make me own arguments for me, I'm happy to concede. That just saves me time and effort.
Thank you.

>>146742391
You're still here? I'm sure there's a goyslop thread on the catalog with your name on it.
Your mystery meat lesbians and their superior designs await you, anon. Maybe one of them will even be mtf.

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>>146742347
>I wish people hated Disney
A lot of people do. Depends on the person.

Remember not too long ago people got sick of Disney pushing LGBT stuff on kids so the governor of Florida basically ended up having a feud with them. This made him popular with a lot of people that were sick of Disney's shit, even if others will mindlessly follow Disney no matter what.

Disney has also had a bunch of notable failures at the box office recently. The MCU isn't doing as well, they completely fucked up the Star Wars franchise, the Indiana Jones sequel flopped, so did some of their animated films like Wish.

>>146742215
The thing that separates black souls and kingdom hearts (apart the very obvious age ratings and overall tone) is that Black Souls has a more consistent vision and direction that doesn't contradicts or retcons itself with every new release. Of course that is due one is product of the collaboration of two multimillions corporation and the other is essentially someone AO3 fanfic they stitched together with duck tape, rpg maker, glue and lots of semen

>>146742414
And yet the damn mouse continues to live. Disney has this annoying habit of not dying. And you know what I don't think Disney can die. Disney can lose trillions and what will happen is they won't die instead some RICHER company like Microsoft or Apple will show up and buy them. Companies with iconic historic fame don't die they always become OWNED by a richer conglomerate.

So if humanity hates Disney? That still won't kill them sadly.

>>146741999
KH's aesthetic is for the early 2000's what glam metal was for the 80's

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>>146742443
Yeah if the most successful mousepad company were to go bankrupt tomorrow, people wouldn't care much because you can just go buy a mousepad from someone else. But people have an emotional attachment to Disney, Marvel, Star Wars, etc. Everyone knows of Disney. It's to the point there would probably be a government intervention if a country like China tried to buy them.

I recall there were some leaks from Microsoft that showed they were in talks to do some corporate scheming to buy out Nintendo in some sort of underhanded way. This outraged a lot of people in Japan. Now Nintendo, other Japanese companies, and the government have some sort of agreement such that Nintendo would sooner die before it got owned by a different country. It would be a national embarrassment to them if Nintendo was to get bought by a foreign company like Microsoft.

>>146742375
Ariel: I'm going to fuck Vanellope so hard
Moana: That's a child.. out of 10!
Sleeping Beauty: Why aren't they focused on me?
Anna: I hate my sister I hate my sister
Elsa: Don't look me in the eye, you froggy bitch
Tiana: Muh restaurant!
Merida: Me ma's a beer
Snow White: I no longer exist
Pocahontas: Quit trying to shove your finger up my nose
Belle: I'm going to take this dead harlots headband.
Cinderella: Ooh asian Mulan out of the pan
Mulan: Arabian slampig loves the ham
Jasmine: Allahu Akbar!
Rapunzel: Just me and the bitches

>>146739141
It's soul in the most purest sense of the word
Something no one in the modern era can adapt

>>146739141
WB is probably going to call up Atlus and make their own KH if Multiversus fails.

>>146743741
...that was supposed to be pibby... I think...

>>146743761
Pibby is shit and finished and everyone mocked them after the rose tinted glasses wore off

>>146742375
are Raps tits big or just out here?

>>146742414
>I hate Disney but I can't wait to consume newest Disney product!
It's all so tiresome.

>>146742319
does that mean that Alaska and Hawaii are the only happy states

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>>146744065
Yes

>>146739141
RWBY imitated it and that flopped horrendously.

>>146744065
Hawaii....happy? They are miserable. They are watching their rare unique ecosystem destroyed by shitty Feral Cats. There's a growing hatred towards cats in western nations but especially in Hawaii and New Zealand. Humans are learning that cats are vermin that should be killed and no longer considered pets.

>>146744170
Hawaii are a bunch of welfare retards that actively vote for the worst shit imaginable just to spite the US.

>>146739571
this i why Americans will never produce anything like KH, they're too poisoned by self-awareness and cringe culture.

>>146739141
I'm me he says..

>>146744563
Peak

>>146744426
Good morning SAAR

>>146739457
>is this still popular
Not...really? There's infinity less hype for the stuff coming after KHIII compared to the stuff that came after KHII mostly due to how bad the former was and how over it people are with Disney and Final Fantasy as properties now so all you have left are people who are legitimately invested in the story and characters which is honestly not a whole lot after KHIII.

>>146739466
>The third game was the best selling in the series.
And FFXV is the best selling title in the franchise yet nobody likes or even gives a shit about it the immense disappointment that followed KHIII's release was very much comparable where the common consensus was how it was not worth the 15 year wait and how the story became too retarded to even make fun of. If you're a Disneyfag you hated how unimportant and fillerish the sections became, if you're a FFfag you hated the lack of cameos and representation, if you're gameplay fag you hated the theme park summoning, KHIII just did so much wrong that not even Re;Mind could make amends for it.

>>146742347
Don't worry anon, I hate Disney enuff for all of us

>>146745491
>could
*couldn't

>>146742878
?

>>146743741
What worlds do you want to see in Empire Souls?

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The thread reminded me of this.

Looney Tunes could possibly have something, but it being more irreverent it'll be tough doing a 1 to 1 with Kingdom Hearts.

Closest with them has been that gacha game (is it still going?) that sort of tries to make a whole universe with all the different characters.

>>146742322
There's exactly two "ironic" moments in the series, and they're more like injokes
>Tifa asking if the gang saw a guy with spiky hair, and Sora pokes one of his hair spikes.
>Sora saying they usually land in the colosseum and hear trumpets in the olympus world in 3

>>146747435
>Barbie x Warcraft
If only they knew back then what WoW would turn into...

>Capcom x Looney Tunes
Could unironically be great, if this theoretical game included other WB properties.

>Doom X Don Bluth
Whoever made this clearly didn't watch All Dogs Go to Heaven

>>146747530
What about when it said KH 2.9? /v/ told me that was a joke.

i've been listening to simple and clean on repeat the past couple days despite never having played kingdom hearts

i feel nostalgia toward the commercials

>>146747725
I like Don't think Twice and Sanctuary.

>>146747771
i was planning on listening to sanctuary a lot next

>>146747697
That counts too I suppose.

>i've been to see him... he looks a lot like you
>i'm what's left... or maybe i'm all there ever was
>i've been having these weird thoughts lately... like is any of this for real or not
>a scattered memory that's like a far-off dream... a far-off dream that's like a scattered memory... i want to line the pieces up, yours and mine
how can one series have so much kino?

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>>146742224
I'm getting real fucking tried of people, who know jackshit about character design, or the game he comes from shitting on Luso.

He was literally sucking into a magic book world and has to play its hero. His design is meant to protray he's the player protagonist, and in-game you can build him to be whatever class you want, hence why there's so many different things on him. And in-context you could easily say he doesn't know to properly dress as an adventurer because he's literally never done it before.

Good character design should tell you what a character is like just by looking at them. KH, for all its flaws, does this too. Sora is childish, but also heroic and kind. So his design as more light colors, that eventually fade because he's growing up in-game. Aqua is calm and collected and proper but not very well traveled, hence her design is more regal and elegant, but shiny and ready for travel. Roxas is street smart and full of emotional pain, hence why his usual clothes are more casual and dully colored. Fuck, even the "zippers" have a point, Pete is a bumbling idiot who wants to be important than he actually is, so he's just copying the styles of other characters, namely Mickey, whos zippers DO have an in-character purpose, wear a trenchcoat, which does serve a function in-game, also shows how "hidden" a character is, shutting themselves off from the rest of the world.

I swear, thorw a JPRG character at me, and say its a "bad design" and I swear it's from someone thinks Sonic is iconic only because he's blue and has spikes.

>>146747435
>gacha
yeah no

>>146739372
That's what happens when the main cast are all chicks. Literally asking for it go gay.

>>146739465
Wish he did a Star Wars game. Throw his ass into the Old Republic and let him cook.

>>146739141
You know what I find amusing given the recent times and this being a Kingdom Hearts thread? Viv the creator of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss is a Kingdom Hearts fan. She even gave Lucifer his own keyblade:

https://youtu.be/C3taRD4CfXM?t=854

Make me wonder, is Sora strong enough to fight and defeat the Deadly Sins of this series? They're about as powerful as a keyblade wielder and Lucifer is the strongest one. And I find this premise amusing because Nomura has not shied away from representing Sora as angelic given he grows an angel's wing during his DLC fight against Xehanort. That and the Foretellers Sora has to fight are ALL named in Latin for the Seven Deadly Sins such as Invi equals Envy and same to all the other ones. Some food for thought.

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>>146748166
No.

bump

>>146750643
I'm so sorry you never learned how to read.

>>146739795
dogshit taste. DDD is the worst game

>>146739795
Dream Drop Distance sucks balls man

>>146741999
It is cool though.

>>146739141
This really captured the nerdy weeb girl demographic in a chokehold. Western comics and cartoons couldn't dream of mimicking this.

>>146739141
To imitate Kingdom Hearts, you have to understand it. And who the hell could understand KH without a flowchart?

>>146744170
>>146744362
Cats suck? And the strays are assholes? There’s something you don’t know then lol

About the dogs though?
>>146750506
>vivziepop
>kingdom hearts fan
Keep that psycho bitch away from this franchise, please and thank you

>>146739372
The problem with RWBY is that the original creator/head writer died during production of the third season and got replaced by writers who admitted they don't care about continuity and had no idea where to take the story after he died, but still continued it for another 6 seasons of directionless bullshit and forced drama

>>146739141
MAXIMUM
OVERSOUL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64b_TFFnZa4

>>146742375
>Also you try explaining the clusterfuck plot of Kingdom Hearts to a Hollywood executive.
>A boy gets a magical sword called a keyblade and travels to different Disney worlds in order to save his girlfriend from Billy Zane

>>146754897
The only people that think KH is a complicated clusterfuck are the ones that haven't played it.
The games spoonfeed you their plot like you're a baby.

>>146739141
how can one image about a fucking videogame with a kid using a key as a sword and fucking disney characters, convey SO MUCH fucking emotions.

Nomura's best art ever ffs. This feeling of responsibility, that chilling wind blowing, the mode of melancholy. Fuck man

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>>146754897
>Disney execs: "Okay give us your proposal for this 'Kingdom Hearts' idea you have."
>"OKAY SO THERE'S LIGHT AND THERE'S DARKNESS AND YOU HAVE A SWORD BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A KEY AND IT OPENS A DOOR TO A PLACE THAT IS PURE LIGHT AND THERE ARE SOULS AND THERE ARE SOULLESS AND ALSO THERE'S DONALD DUCK AND GOOFY AND THIS JAPANESE CHARACTER CALLED SEPHIROTH HE'S A ONE-WINGED ANGEL AND-"

>>146754973
Nomura is genuinely and unironically my idol. He's a true fucking artist who has known the grind.

>>146741871
The amount of damage Joss Whedon has done to the cultural zeitgeist is difficult to overstate.

>>146754987
He is probably also a huge edgelord

https://youtu.be/7B-iw8qhZbQ?si=_9xAS3tkvEcPbH-I&t=1411

just see how sakaguchi is imitating him, dude probably loved the edgyness.

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>>146755007
Some Japanese devs like Itagaki act like they're rockstars and wear sunglasses all the time like it makes them cool. Look at pic-related. He has horrible acne scars and is not attractive at all. But he puts on the sunglasses even if it's an interview at night and pretends to be a badass anyway.

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Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty.

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>>146739458
Based

>>146754980
Why do people act like the war of light and darkness is one of the more complicated ideas in Kingdom Hearts when it's a basic Good vs Evil dichotomy that was more or less conveyed by making the factions into a ripoff of the Jedi and Sith?

>>146756244
Because le kingdum farts is le cringe and they're enlightened by their own intellect.
Westoids are irony poisoned.

>>146739466
>third game
*10th

>>146739421
The sticking point for Sora being in Super Smash Brothers is that Nomura couldn't find a way to make in canon, that is how strong his autism is.

>>146756244
Kingdom Hearts is just Anime Hot Topic Star Wars.

>>146754987
Dude could've been a great manga artist had he not gone into game development.

>>146756485
I've seen some of his storyboards. Dude has a great sense for movement and dynamism. I wish he had directed more CG movies than just Advent Children. My watch count of that is already at triple digits.

>>146756244
Xehanort decided he wanted to see the final battle between good and evil so bad he dedicated his life to being the universes' biggest asshole so some hero would come try to kill him. It really is that simple.

Why haven't WB done a Kingdom Hearts ripoff? I guess Space Jam is the closest they've gone?

>>146756244
The games were released over multiple different systems, so a lot of people only played 1 and 2 as kids. I've had friends play through thr whole series now that it's on Steam and say it wasn't really confusing until DDD, and not by much.

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>>146756244
Are you familiar with the term "elevator pitch?" If you were to pitch a Kingdom Hearts movie to a bunch of Disney execs you would need to be able to summarize it quickly and make it something they could mentally digest in a quick amount of time.

Like if you were to propose a Neon Genesis Evangelion movie you'd probably just want to say it's big robots fighting each other like Pacific Rim or Godzilla and had teenage drama like the Twilight movies. That's easy for them to understand. The more complicated you make it by talking about how it's about depression, and artificial life forms, and a metaphor for Shinji wanting to fuck his mother, and also there's a bunch of Christian symbolism, the less likely it would be for the execs to greenlight your movie.

>>146757541
Kingdom Hearts was literally an elevator pitch.

>>146739421
This. Disney tried making their own shitty phone game way back when with V-Cast and now don't do anything related besides merchandise.

>>146757607
Because Disney and Square shared the same building at one point.

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>>146756681
No idea, but they're leaving money on the table

>>146739466
The second game was GBA exclusive, not PS2.

>>146741999
This isn't even a bass design. Busy, yes, but still everything is perfectly recognizable.
>Overalls
>Pizzacutter judge sword
>Sheath to hold pizza recipe grimoire
>Belt to attach longsword and book to person
>Green sash to keep belt from digging into his skin
>Attachment to second belt for support to keep the heavy gear in place
>Some accessories and pins
If you look at it and your brain turns off instead of on that's all on you.

>>146754957
Depends on the game. DDD is a bit of a clusterfuck with some later retconned details and complicated time travel mechanics and X/UX was intentionally designed to be obscure and confusing and cause players to constantly piece the plot together akin to the Dark Souls series, but otherwise yeah it's mostly straightforward. There was also some mindfuckery in 3 that had to be explained in the DLC.l

>>146756681
They chose the Smash ripoff as their crossover video game instead. Not an unreasonable decision; Ultimate alone has almost as many sales as the entirety of Kingdom Hearts. KH is a soulful Japanese autist's fanfiction with a budget. There's no one at WB who would be interested in the concept outside of $$$, which Smash makes significantly more of.

>>146756681
Who'd be Maleficent stand i?

>>146759306
Like for example, if I told you the reason for the world being destroyed in the series' backstory wasn't the Keyblade War but instead it was because of Maleficent being dumb and fucking up, would you believe me? If I told you all the monsters in DDD are actually human children, would you believe me? If I told you the girl in the KH4 trailer is a clone of the stabbed-to-death original, would you believe me? If I told you the reason Xehanort turned evil was because one of his friends went on a school shooting and murdered all his other friends, would you believe me?

Cause all these are true.

>>146759713
I simply wouldn't care because any game after KH2 might as well be non-canon. I'm getting KH4 because I want to see what crazy shit Nomura will come up with and also because it might be his last game before retiring.

>>146759748
>I simply wouldn't care because any game after KH2 might as well be non-canon.
Thankfully you're not in charge of the series because holy shit conversing with people of this mentality is insufferable. I WANT to go down the rabbit hole of crazy plot conspiracies. Kingdom Hearts was made for people like me, and I couldn't be more pleased.

>>146759769
When Tokyo team died, the series died with it. I treat everything after KH2 as a different series.
Sure, I'll speculate about plot and characters, but not with the care I once had.
That being said, you couldn't pay me to care about the mobile game lore. Unchained/χ/union cross, I don't care. Right over my head.

>>146759804
>When Tokyo team died
Yep, you're one of THOSE guys. Always the same with you.

>That being said, you couldn't pay me to care about the mobile game lore. Unchained/χ/union cross, I don't care. Right over my head.
Yes, I'm well aware. You guys are all the same. You're not the kind of person I ever want to discuss the series with, it's like talking to a brick wall. Good day.

>>146759878
Yeah sorry, some of us want more substance in a game than just pressing a button to nuke the entire screen over and over again.
Story can be experienced by watching it on Youtube, gameplay cannot. Nobody's stopping you from rolling around in slop.

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>20 years
>Sora's mom hasn't been shown once
Man...

>>146739614
Japan loves Disney movies, I don't know what the fuck you're on about.

>>146760210
Considering Sora didn't even think twice about leaving her behind to sail into the unknown, she might've been abusive, perhaps sexually.
In this video essay, I'll

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>>146742274
>shit design
No kidding, he looked better as an actual school kid.

>>146745491
A lot of people have been getting into the series because of the Steam release.

>>146758820
Daffy makes more sense as the mage.

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>>146760297
How dare you, she's a loving and caring mama who instilled good values on her son
so obviously its consensual

>>146742375
>Also you try explaining the clusterfuck plot of Kingdom Hearts to a Hollywood executive.

A child fights Disney villains with the help of Disney heroes. Also, toyetic filler villains show up mid-way through as a sequel hook.

>>146760410
She never found out that her son died or that he might be getting erased from existence next.
This is why protagonists tend to not have moms, it makes shit cruel and complicated.

>>146760467
All the more reason to remember she exists and make her important.
Assuming Nomura wouldn't just kill her

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Why is Pete never around his wife?

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>>146761290
She divorced him for Goofy

>>146760210
>>146760410
Now I'm feeling like we missed out on seeing Sora's surely cute mom. Start us back on Destiny Island and let us talk to his fully modeled NPC mama.

>>146761341
After rewatching some of the show (its just as awful as I remember) I gotta say its fucking canon. She already makes out with Goofy in episode 1, I think even in front of her kids. It's fucking weird.

>>146745491
FFXV is the best FF game thoughever.

>>146761519
>It's fucking weird.
She's just a woman that knows what she wants. Pete is a bad husband anyway so it's ok that he gets cucked all throughout the show.

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>>146739141
Too much effort and money for not too big of a risk.
Kingdom Hearts is successful, but it's niche successful. It thrives because over the years it has acquired a very loyal army of dedicated autists like myself that grows slightly every time they release a new one.
The problems with imitating it is several elements of it are far too hard to replicate. Kingdom Hearts thrives in a realm of earnest cringe. Which is goddamned impossible for most companies to comprehend in a post-avengers world.
It's so goddamned genuine and plays every single cringe stereotype straight and it's so goddamned unashamed of it that it's endearing.
Kingdom Hearts without the crossover element, even if Disney is such a nothing factor to the actual story, is simply not Kingdom Hearts. And making a crossover element on par with Disney is functionally impossible. It would be a licensing nightmare akin to trying to recreate the success of Super Smash Bros. And I think that Multiversus and Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl are prime examples of why nobody wants to try to meet a crossover franchise on its own level. Because it's damn-near impossible to recapture what makes it special.
And as >>146739421 said, Nomura's autism is a deep, and powerful autism.

>>146761290
He doesn't have a wife anymore. She left him and took the kids. Why do you think he became a villain in the first place?

>>146761382
>let us talk to his fully modeled NPC mama.
You just want SFM porn of her.

>>146761600
If you played this shit as a kid, you were hooked. Especially since anime was getting big in the US in those days.

>>146759983
Khux and dark road have the best story in the series desu
Also dark road had great Disney integration

>>146761290
He's around maleficent all the time what are you talking about

>>146761622
Yeah, that's how the shit got its hooks in me. Played KH2 first because I saw its box art on a shelf at a video rental store and thought "why the fuck are Donald and Goofy and Mickey mouse on a box with a bunch of Anime characters?" and then it never let me go.
Fucking hell, the 'tism this franchise has instilled in me. I have made it a personal project to create the absolute shortest, but at the same time comprehensive summary of the plot of Kingdom Hearts possible.
I managed to condense it down to about half an hour but that's heavily abridging KH2 in a way that I'm not happy with.

>>146761795
I mean just say sora goes through Disney worlds that don't matter at all except foreshadowing in 3s case, and then beats up an old man who won't learn his lesson multiple times

>>146762101
Anon.. that's data strelitzia. The real one is dead. Luxu took data strelitzia out of data daybreak town and sent her out

>>146762163
We saw her heart fly away to kingdom hearts. We also saw the data version continually dying over and over and luxu taking that out of data daybreak town

>>146762101
Why did you use strelitzia as an example of reincarnation over player who we know canonically reincarnated and raised xehanort on destiny islands and did remember his past life and that influenced xehanort who could read his memories/emotions

>>146762285
Player didn't have to reincarnated though it was a choice. He could have became a dream eater or just faded all together

>>146762406
It's been too long since the earnest writing of KH1 and the heartfelt writing of KH2.
I remember playing KH3 with a friend when it first dropped and riffing on the nothing dialogue. Just inane lines everywhere, scenes not being allowed to breathe...what a chore it was.

>>146762115
That is basically the gist of how I explain the disney worlds in my summary. An off-handed mention of "Sora, Donald and Goofy go on Disney adventures, PLOT PLOT PLOT and then Sora Donald and Goofy go on some more disney adventures PLOT"

>his posts got deleted AGAIN
kek

>>146762530
The only reason I'm fully committed is because I'm Nomura's top guy. Plus, I want to see what elements of Versus 13 he's gonna shove into the narrative. That game's cancellation hurt me on a personal level and I've been chasing its phantom ever since.

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>>146762606
>For example regular Heartless are capable of speech. Same to the Dream Eaters
What bullshit lore did the the gatcha pull this time? When was this a thing? And more importantly, what was the context?

>>146762594
Versus 13 was going to be shit and you know it. The man wantede to make it a musical at one point for fucks sakes.

>>146762666
That was after it was hijacked by executives and internally rebranded into FF15. By that point, Nomura knew he was on his way out and didn't give a shit. I don't blame him, neither would I.

>>146749695
Well, KH4 will have a Star Wars world.

>>146762606
>>146762651
https://www.khwiki.com/Darkling
It's basically just applying Ansem being a heartless retained his personality to other keyblade users.

>>146762785
Maybe it's Anakin. His autism could be fun to witness, especially contrasted with Sora's hopeful disposition.

>>146756244
Anon, people still shit themselves over there being two Ansems.

>>146762651
Dream eaters are the children who skipped out on the key lade war fused with their chirithies

>>146762747
It's not a fucking at-st it's a fucking rock

>>146762827
Does anyone have the obi-wan copypasta where he said sora Donald and goofy were there during episodes 1 and 3 and they were good friends.

>>146762651
He's talking about Darklings. They're special Heartless formed from Keyblade wielders willingly eschewing their Keyblades in favor of the power of darkness. They lose their human forms and become Heartless, but retain their sanity. Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 already hinted at this when DiZ commented that Ansem was able to retain his sanity as a Heartless by willingly embracing darkness, and Sora managed to do it too.

In KH3 Aqua was strongly hinted to be in the process of becoming a Darkling when she became Anti-Aqua.

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>>146762770
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>>146763444
From my understanding, Darklings aren't "regular" heartless since they're former Keyblade wielders, which I already knew, but I digress. Since I have the oppertunity to say it, that was a dumb inclusion too. Or rather an inclusion that could've potentially been interesting but in true KH fashion they do nothing with.

>>146763490
They're also the only "true" Heartless in KHX and UX. All the others are illusions or programs recreated from data.

>>146739141
Kingdom Hearts is just way too specific to be copied well.

>>146764803
More like no company has the balls to do anything like it again. KH is kinda miracle, coming out a just the right time, when Disney was trying to zero in on the teen market, and Nomura was thinking of a game that could rival Mario and knew the only character that could is Mickey, and the two meeting a just the right moment to let everything fall into place.

Sure, WB could've done something, but who could've they partnered with? Sega? Konami? Capcom? Same goes for literally any other company, to say nothing about how Disney is an IP that hugely popular in both Japan and the West, hence why KH exists at all.

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>>146761290
Because Kingdom Hearts is a prequel to Goof Troop.

>>146763444
You don't even have to be a Keyblade user, Scar did that shit.

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>>146765042
Scar didn't become a Darkling, his lingering hatred just a different Heartless, the Groundshaker. Darklings are a very specific thing.

KHX also has a Chirithy, the game's spirit guide companion critter, turn evil from darkness, then consumes four Darklings to become a monstrous hybrid being. It partially shows up again later when Darklings start getting eaten by Cy-bugs in the Wreck-it-Ralph world and they become Heartless, then mutate.

>>146761856
Anyone who draws sora having sex with grown women should be shot on sight

I’ve seen sora getting shipped with that green women from icarus

>>146765166
>I’ve seen sora getting shipped with that green women from icarus
Palutena?

>>146764897
Exactly, it's too specific. It just wouldn't work the same way with any other two companies. Though I could see one company doing it just with their own IPs. I know I'd play the hell out of Mario going to other Nintendo worlds or something.

Kingdom Hearts is a perfect example of an auteur-driven franchise, with both the wonder/imagination and total nonsense that comes with that. It's Nomura's vision presented totally unfiltered and wholly earnest, and Nomura is a cracked out autist who somehow made a Final Fantasy/Disney crossover work. That's why it hasn't been replicated. You'd need a similar madman to even get the project off the ground.

>>146756244
I think people just kind of say that they're confused about the Keyblade War when what they mean is that they're confused by the broader cosmology of the KH universe and the actual details of the story.

You're right, the worldbuilding in Kingdom Hearts is no more complicated than your usual fantasy universe (most of it boils down to "Light vs Darkness" and the idea that people can be divided into Hearts, Bodies, and Souls). But it doesn't really explain itself all that well, and you also run into the problem that the series is so spread out across different platforms with every single entry, including the browser game that basically nobody played, including important information. You've got characters running around sharing the same identity for reasons that aren't totally clear, time travel that works in a pretty unintuitive manner, and lore hidden in documents like the Ansem Reports. If you're not dedicated and paying attention, there's a ton of moments in the series where it seems like stuff just sort of happens.

>>146764897
>coming out at just the right time
This can't be overstated either. Square was at (the tail end of) its peak, and Disney was coming off the Renaissance. I mean, the movies that were fresh in peoples' minds (Aladdin, Hercules, The Little Mermaid, etc) were even perfect for adapting into JRPG areas. They were full of sorcerors, exotic locations, heroes, etc.

If KH were attempted fresh today, it wouldn't work. Hell, I'm sure a ton of people noticed on some level that the movies chosen for KH3 just seemed less inspired overall.

>>146765358
>the movies chosen for KH3 just seemed less inspired overall.
And the worlds themselves were uninspired save for the Pixar ones. The Frozen world is easily the most poorly done world visit in the franchise.

>>146765166
Why does this bother you so much specifically? Simply curious here.

>>146765395
Because older women are hotter.

>>146765140
The ghost scar you fought at the end of the first time you go to the pridelands was also scars heartless. Unless that was actually his nobody

>>146765448
>Kingdom Hearts is not unique.
The difference is that (aside from The Goonies which is weird) it's all just Konami. Kingdom Hearts is unique for being one part original story, one part Final Fantasy, and one part Disney. Very different from Wai Wai World. Mickey Mouse, or another OC stand-in, going to just Disney worlds with nothing else going on just doesn't work as well as Kingdom Hearts.

>>146765358
>think people just kind of say that they're confused about the Keyblade War
It doesn't help that there were two key lade wars, one that was light and darkness over kingdom hearts and ended with almost everyone except 1 guy and 13 darkness's dead, and then one later where the guy from the last one tricked a bunch of furries to make children kill each other

>>146765489
Yes, that's what I mean. The lingering darkness from potently evil individuals can transform into a Heartless. It happens to Mother Gothel and Hans in KH3, who die separately and their lingering darkness transforms into the Grim Guardianess and Skoll boss Heartless, respectively. A particularly strong darkness can curse an object and transform that into a Heartless too. Captain Hook's sheer greed transformed the treasure he was seeking into the Ruler of the Skies Heartless in Days.

Many different dark emotions are associated with creating Heartless, through many different means. This was so well-known that in KHX it was explicitly forbidden to express emotions like anger, sadness, jealousy, and such. Do so openly and you might get "disappeared" for being a source of darkness threatening the others.

>>146765518
I think they still have enough good movies for worlds for another two games at least, depending on how generous Disney decides to be. Kingdom Hearts may have to double back on worlds some more, but I personally don't mind that as much as some people. Hell, I still want my King of Thieves adaption, but with Gilbert Gottfried's death being so recent I wonder if that'd ever happen...

>>146765544
They were pretty important at first. Not as important as the Disney stuff, but they still had a strong presence. It's only after Kingdom Hearts II that Final Fantasy fell so far to the wayside. I do wish they'd become more important again...

>>146765544
But made kingdom hearts 3 suck harder than it is due to removing final fantasy entirely and had to add them back in dlc when it's too late

>>146765453
It's also worth mentioning that Disney just isn't the same company in more ways than one. From what I understand, Square (i.e., Nomura) had way more freedom to do what they wanted with Disney properties back in the days of KH1/2. It's why you saw stuff like Dr. Finkelstein messing with Hearts, Chernabog hanging out at the End of the World, and King Triton knowing about the Keyblade. It all felt like a more integrated whole, instead of a bunch of setpieces for Sora to kill time in (like you said, Frozen is a perfect example). The only exception in KH3 was Big Hero Six, which was probably the best World in the game by a mile.

>>146765518
Moana would work well enough, but you're right. Ironically, Nomura moving more in the direction of original content (which he seems to want to do in KH4) might be the smartest play, as much as that would rob KH of its magic. I can definitely say that, as of right now, I'm not particularly interested in playing 4.

>>146739141
YOU DON'T HEAR ME SAY

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>>146765395
seething

>>146765699
To be fair to nomura he wanted a real remake of ffvii. He was outvoted by the other two who said they wanted it to have time jannies and ac sephiroth showing up everywhere

>>146765699
If he had an editor keeping him on a tight leash from the beginning, the series probably wouldn't have been so magical in the first place. The thing that's undoing it right now is the same thing that made it so special when it first came out.

All in all, it's probably better to just let it go, especially since the Xehanort Saga has concluded with all the loose ends tied up (even if it was done pretty hamfistedly in 3). I'm not gonna say Nomura is creatively tapped or even that he definitely won't surprise us with KH4, but Kingdom Hearts specifically has probably just run its course. It's a perfect example of lightning in a bottle, where the stars aligned to make it work out.

>>146765358
A lot of the world selection for KH3 was great. The execution was uneven, but Nomura wanted to include Pixar movies since KH1, plus returning to Olympus and The Caribbean was great. The Caribbean is one of the best worlds in the series.

>>146765651
Nowadays Disney has a tighter reign and for stuff like tangled and frozen the teams that made the movies were still around and said it has to follow the movies. Pixar wanted sequels and bh6 also did a sequel probably because roy conli is a xehanort

>>146765770
>Crab hunt
>One of the best worlds
LMAO

>>146765166
That's because Palutena is regularly shipped with Pit because /ss/ and thanks to the smash connection and Sora looking like Pit he is brought into the horny realm also.

>>146765763
But we could finally have a Star Wars world....

>>146765790
>3 minute mandatory crab pickup
>go back to sailing
Wow, so terrible

>>146765844
So even though your posts have been deleted multiple times, why do you continue to post in a thread about a series you don't like?

>>146765844
MoM is great though.

>>146765651
>which he seems to want to do in KH4
In what way?

>>146765904
Hes using the ideas he had for vs xiii for kh4

>>146765868
Not that anon, but I also don't care about the crap that Nomura is adding to the series to prolong it. As far as I'm concerned, the series ended with 3, for better or for worse.
>B-but then why are you posting
It's fun to reminiscence. KH was truly peak 2000's culture.

>>146765763
Anon the problem now is the Disney has him on an incredibly tight leash
Frozen was supposed to have Elsa making the ice castle come alive and fight sora for the final boss but Disney said no

>>146765896
I just want funny scenes of Anakin fighting alongside Donald Duck, Goofy, and a spiky haired anime boy to stop the power of DARKNESSSSS

>>146765963
>Luke did I ever tell you about sora, Donald, and goofy? They were 3 friends that came to help me fight Darth Vader and cut off all his limbs to he fell into lava and burned. And they were good friends
>Ah here they are now walking into the home, sora, Donald, goofy.

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>>146765763
Nah, I'm on Nomura's wild ride to the end

>>146765996
If it was that easy to just buy the original material, they probably would've done it by now.

>>146765996
Disney owns all of kh, and square wasn't in a good position to buy it either.

>>146765996
Hey yanderefag, didn't think you'd show up outside of /v/.
>And if Square Enix has any interest in Kingdom Hearts style media they would have to make an original property from the ground up think like World of Final Fantasy (but you know decent because World of Final Fantasy is shit).
Terrible fucking idea.

>>146766016
He's only doing one more game though he's gonna retire after 4 which won't come out till 2027 at the earliest

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>>146765282
>I know I'd play the hell out of Mario going to other Nintendo worlds or something.
My autistic ass has already thought of premise for an AU KH with a Sora stand-in meeting with Nintendo and Universal/Dreamworks characters

>>146766047
My autistic ass has been imagining Sora just going off to worlds not related to Disney at all. Anything you can think of that'd fit with Kingdom Hearts, and it'd be great to see happen somehow.

>>146766078
MoM was saving them though. Making sure they got infected with the 7 strongest darkness's and then going to the future

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, and as many times as I need to. With the exceptions of Donald and Goofy, Disney is almost always the worst parts of any given KH game, because Disney itself is such a horrible company to work with.
God forbid anyone does something interesting with your characters and worlds, and dollars to donuts when they add Star Wars it's going to be worse, Marvel stands a better chance though with things like Snap and Rival existing, showing that Marvel is allowed to be fun and not pigeon holed to the MCU again

>>146766075
Nah. KH and Sora are for Disney and SE, and I guess Nintendo. Any other world feels wrong, gotta keep some of that tism on tap.

>>146766112
It's sad how loose Disney was at first, only tightening the leash more and more as years went on.

>>146766112
You're over here acting like 100 Acre Wood in KH1 and KH2 aren't pure soul

>>146765996
That was never going to happen because the Disney aspect in inherent to to series as Nomura sees it.

>>146766112
Halloween Town was great too.

>>146766112
Reminder that the entire reason Hollow Bastion existed was because Disney forbid Nomura from letting the Disney characters outside of Donald and Goofy crossover to different settings.
So Nomura worked around the limitation by making a separate world where all the direct crossover stuff could happen.
Also man I wish I would of seen this thread earlier because by now because I have some points that would be good for newcomers in the earlier discussion but everyone left at this point is already deep in it.

>>146766209
>Reminder that the entire reason Hollow Bastion existed was because Disney forbid Nomura from letting the Disney characters outside of Donald and Goofy crossover to different settings.
Haven't heard this before. Got a link?

>>146766219
I don't think Kingdom Hearts is in Disney's radar at all outside of them being overprotective of their IP's though.

>>146766219
KH without Disney isn't happening. Nomura doesn't want that. Just move on.

>>146766145
>>146766172
There are natural exceptions scattered throughout the franchise, but those have been fewer and fewer as the years have gone on. The Princess of Heart are never going to be important or a "thing" again, despite what KH3 teased, since that would require them doing things, Which no character beides the Mickey gang and is allowed to do, besides giving them random bullshit powers, like the Fairy Godmother from Cinderella being able to cross the boundries of life and death like its nothing despite other characters stating how impossible it is, and how Sora nearly broke the universe trying to.

>>146766112
>and as many times as I need to
someone thinks they're important

>>146766219
>it will be as woke as usual Disney Shit and it will be a grand expensive failure.

Take your non horse meds

>>146766315
It's not a matter of being important, it's a matter of everyone else being dumb

>>146766313
Don't forget merlin having a better form of time travel that can change the past without getting you booted from the universe. Xehanort needs her precise complicated loops and can only do what he was gonna do, and if you do change things like sora did you get yeeted out of reality

>>146766339
Being dumb about what? Disney worlds loosing relevance to the main plot? That's literally one of the most discussed topics among KH fans.

>>146766362
And yet they cry if their favorite Disney movie/show isn't represented, even though they're likely going to be ruined if they do, if they ever had a chance of showing up at all.

>>146766362
Worlds in kh3 had more relevance than in 2 though

>>146766423
Not really. There was literally no rason for Sora to travel to any new worlds in KH3 besides vague notions of "training" to become a Keyblade master, despite that title meaning jackshit in the current state of the KH world. And it's not like anything that happened in those worlds were all impactful later on either.

>>146766454
He went to worlds to try to gain power and also stop the organization. They were in every world, stuff like Rapunzel and frozen and potc foreshadowed sora making a sacrifice for love while stuff like bh6 and toy story was foreshadowing the org trying to bring back xion

>>146766401
Yes. People want Disney movies they like represented in a Disney series about going to Disney worlds. I know, very shocking.

If Nomura had managed to wrap it up by KH2, it would have been hailed as a masterpiece.
Now it’s a laughingstock.

>>146766362
nta but
>Disney worlds losing relevance in the main plot
How? The main plot never takes place in space. It all takes place on worlds.

Also
>among KH fans
Heh, doubt it faggot. How would you know what KH fans discuss? You're not a child. You don't run in their circles.

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>>146766352
The power system everyone else is using ain't got shit on fairy tale magic.

>>146766517
>You're not a child. You don't run in their circles.
Nigga people talking about KH online are in their late 20s/early 30s. Its prime millennial material.

>>146766517
KH has not received new child fans in any serious regard for years now.
The main source of people coming into the series at this point are 20 something's that grew up with Anime and Disney content in the mid 2000s who are playing through the collections.

Always been funny to me how /co/ has the angriest KH threads

>>146766599
/v/ doesn't have Vidya as much as /co/ hates cartoons. And /vg/ survived the agrabah khux days

>>146766599
/v/ has a handful of dedicated sctizos and people who deliberately cause arguments to keep threads alive as otherwise they fade out around 250 posts in.
/co/ has people where because of the anime influences and general distain for what the series represents for Disney actively decry and shun it out of some weird form of resentment over its existence. To that end this thread has actually been nicer than some of the others I have seen.

>>146765246
Yeah
>>146765465
Pedophilia?
>>146765727
Mmm
>>146765821
Fucking people I fear sometimes are too much of a mistake

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>>146739372
fpbp. RWBY, even if it never got more popular than it always was, was always pure SOVL like Kingdom Hearts.

>>146766143
>loose Disney was at first, only tightening the leash more and more as years went on.

Disney was always strict.

>Disallowed them from using Mickey Mouse as an protagonist so Sora was created
>Disallowed from using Mickey for more than one scene because Capcom was doing a Mickey game
>Disallowed most of the Disney properties to actually crossover which is why all the worlds are seperate

>>146765358
>You've got characters running around sharing the same identity for reasons that aren't totally clear, time travel that works in a pretty unintuitive manner


Daily reminder time travel was in Kingdom Hearts 1 because Merlin is a time traveler and has stuff from the future in his Traverse Town hut.

Non Disney time travel also makes perfect sense. Hearts are made of light therefor hearts can go faster than light and time travel. Thats right you fucking heard me bitch.

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Kingdom Hearts needs a Captain EO special summon where you do attacks by dancing to Captain EO's Change the World, Another Part of Me or some other Michael Jackson songs. Maybe a different special one depending on the world you use it in, spooky world gets Thriller, Big Hero 6 gets Bad, etc.

>>146768752
Time travel in Kingdom Hearts is actually pretty fast and loose. If you can travel faster than light there's nothing stopping you from time traveling. However, if you fuck something up along the way you'll suffer the cosmic consequences. To prevent this Xehanort imposed a series of restrictions on the method of time travel he developed to avoid paradoxes. It's understanding this which leads to a lot of confusion.

Merlin's method of time travel is less restrictive (Sora suffers the consequences of abusing this), and the Ark method has dire side effects.

>>146742151
>chains all over the place
lol
lmao

The only Sora design with a chain that ISN'T just his necklace is KH1 Sora with ONE non-necklace chain

>>146747530
I loved that Olympus one lol it was neat
>>146747697
Everyone says it's a joke and how they're "still not at KH3" at that point despite having "KINGDOM HEARTS III" appear four times before that scene. In fact, the Sora scene in BBS 0.2 was also referred to as "2.9", and the Olympus prologue is titled as such because of how you're going to a returning world from a previous game while still using Sora's KH2 design, with your only Formchange at that point if you aren't pulling a New Game Plus being the Kingdom Key's "Second Form" which gives you back the KH2 combo finishers alongside stuff like Sonic Blade and Ars Arcanum.

>>146754957
This is the same series where people had a brain aneurysm over "The guy you fought in the first game stole another guy's identity" before it even brought up the Org leader being his Nobody

>>146770261
This is why I don't take outsider criticism of KH seriously.
>i-is that a...a stolen identity plot point which has been used in countless works of fiction??? AAAAAAAA IM GOING INSANE HELP ME NOMURAMAN

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>>146768734
Yes, but even with those three rules, things still felt way more crossover-y back then.

Series should have ended at 2. Or used different characters after it. 2 had the perfect ending.

>>146771460
I'm just playing the randomizer at this point. Some of the most fun I've had with vidya in years.