Ben 10 would have been a million times better if Kevin joined Ben and Gwen in the original series.>Ben has a buddy who isn't a complete cunt to him 90% of the time.>Gwen has someone to crush on and call her out for her bitchiness. >Max can show more wisdom by mentoring a young troubled youth.
>>146750648Doesn’t matter. He’s currently plowing redhead pussy
>>146750689He could have plowed redhead pussy earlier though.
>>146750648Meh, I liked him better for his role in OV where he was the cool side character.
>>146750648What makes you think kid Kevin would have been nice to Ben? Teen Kevin wasn't even nice to Ben all that much in AF and UA. If anything Ben would have two people who shit on him and laugh at him while they make out with each other. Lame-o.
>>146750781>What makes you think kid Kevin would have been nice to Ben?He was pretty nice to Ben before learning about the Omnitrix.
>>146750807Okay, that's fair. But he was also slightly crazy back then because he had been absorbing electricity. Who knows if kid Kevin would have still been nice if he was sane.
>>146750648>Gwen has someone to crush onway to ruin the seriesromance in a kids show is a cancer that takes away from what makes it fun
>>146750887Would have thought young boys the valuable lesson of "girls love jerkish bad boys."
>>146750951Kevin is more sarcastic than a jerk
>>146750887This is bullshit! I can think of several off the top of my head that enhanced the shit out of it. Tangled the Series, Green Eggs and Ham season 1, and uhhhhhhh that's it but fuck you.
>>146750887I would argue that in a weird kind of ironic way OS Gwen/Kevin would just be Ben/Gwen with Ben being less of a doormat.
>>146751069The draw with Ben and Gwen is the incest, their actual character dynamic is a dime a dozen and you even see it with Gwen and Kevin in OV a bit with the flashbacks.
>>146750887couldn't agree more anon, ATLA suffered in the final season precisely because romance got in the way.though by omniverse, incestuous shenanigans would have been gold and ironically that being a valid reason for kevin to turn out the way he was during the first ben 10000 episode.
>>146751355Anon no woman would leave someone like Kevin for Ben, this is copium of the highest level.
>>146751355>Haha incest would be so funny, right guys? You know, as a joke. Hhaha...
>>146751385Ben's the pretty boy type. He ain't an average looking dork like you.
>>146751385nah but still fun to think about it.besides kevin is a legit bad boy and girls love the bad boys until they are pump and dumped which then they need someone like ben to foot the bill.
You'd like this then. https://youtu.be/qCCZGy1NbOg
>>146751467>then they need someone like ben to foot the bill.You misunderstand the type of guy Ben is.
>>146750648I hate how they had another chance of this in the reboot and didn't.
>>146751451yes.specially when it is nothing more than a facade and fake.teasing faggots and onlookers into an artificial rabbit hole only for them to pull the rug under them as they reveal that they like their privacy and keep it.
>>146750887Romance sucks when you give them relationship drama instead of just having the characters be healthy for one another. Several shows could just say two BFFs are actually dating, not change anything about their relationships, and it would still work.
>>146751491considering he ended with counterfeit pocahontas as a gf when he literally could have landed an alien beauty instead of a mere human woman still rustles my jimmies to this day.shit he had the power to make a perfect wife too and yet he settled down for what? kai? goddamn.
>>146751385As someone who's hobby was ready romance novels with his ex's I do find >>146751355 funny. Yeah if theres one thing overachieving tomboy girls find attractive its immature flaky manlets who brush you off for video games.Gwen/Ben isn't unrealistic because they're cousins a lot of woman find incest hot, its unrealistic because Ben is Ben and Gwen is Gwen.
>>146751532You have no taste. And no being a xenofucker isn't "haha so querky" and being a coomer isn't a personality.
>>146751532I'd rather him and Julie been endgame. Only reason why Kai came back is because somebody wanted to autistically follow everything in the OS pop-up trivia to the letter.
>>146751500Imagine if they kept Yuri for this Ben.
>>146751739Yuri did voice Vilgax
>>146751467If they ever really wanted to do an incest plot line in Ben 10 there is a much better character for Ben to do it with, without all the baggage that attempting it with Gwen would bring.
>>146751739Would have been interesting hearing Yuri try to do a little kid Ben's voice. 11 yo Gwen is voiced by her teen va in OV and it worked.
>>146751803Too be fair Ashley Johnson has played young characters.
>>146751845Who the fuck is that? Someone from Star vs.?
>>146751898Jinmay a robot girl from Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force Go!, She is the love interest to the MC Chiro voiced by Craig Cipes strangely enough.
>>146751787She enjoys it when he calls her the S word with a hard Y.
>>146750648Overall I think Ben Gwen and Max were a pretty complete cast of characters that was wasted by the writers' lack of skill, and adding another permanent character would just end up creating unnecessary problems.>Gwen has someone to crush on and call her out for her bitchiness.Gwen could and should have had a love interest who wasn't the evil version of her cousin.
>>146751787When you really think about what Bwen fans actually want out of their relationship you come to the conclusion that Gwen isn't even the second best cousin for Ben.
>>146752101>Gwen could and should have had a love interest who wasn't the evil version of her cousin.The reboot tried that and it failed horribly people at least remember and acknowledge Kai.
>>146752101Ben and Gwen's biggest problem is that they had no one else to play off of in terms of character dynamic. They constant bickering between them in the original series is a big black mark on it for a lot of folks having another character would have given them another avenue for character growth.
>>146752505I disagree, the real problems with Ben and Gwen's dynamic are that the writers didn't allow the characters (especially Ben) to retain their character development, the inconsistent way they showed Gwen's characterization, and that there was no balance between their personalities, since for some reason the writers decided it was a good idea to give all the positive traits to Gwen, while pretending her flaws didn't exist and magnifying Ben's flaws.
>>146752611Ben was supposed to be relatable and make the kind of mistakes most kids make. That wasn't what Gwen was for.
>>146751942>She is the love interest to the MC Chiro voiced by Craig Cipes strangely enough.Ashley was also Terra in Teen Titans, which featured Cipes as Beast Boy.
>>146752027She like that, damn. Is she into raceplay or because it's Ben calling her that?
>>146752679For a character to be relatable, it is not necessary to make him have practically no qualities or make him a worse person as the series progresses.
>>146750648Ben 10 would've also been a million times better if they made a game where you can customise your MC and find aliens to turn into. Self insert vidya us key to selling a childrens franchise
>>146752751Yes.
>>146752027Lucy seems like the kind girl who would yell at him to call her that mid sex while Ben tried to work up the courage to call her a sludgepuppy.
>>146750648The OS was going to have him and Charmcaster get redeemed but CN wanted AF.
>>146753331>while Ben tried to work up the courage to call her a sludgepuppy.The fuck? He'd just do it. He's already done it. Quit projecting your dweebiness onto the character.
>>146754986He only did it before he found out it was a slur and after that he felt sorry. Don't project your brainrot on the character. Fag.
>>146754994He's not a fucking nerd like you, dude. Ben’s a jock. He's a physically active guy who's into sports and happens to also be into anime and video games. Kevin's into that shit too but does that make him some lame ass geek? No. You're interests don't make you dweeb. It's your actions.
>>146755067Okay? I never said he wasn't a geek. Also I wasn't that anon btw.
>>146755113>>146755067I mean I never said he WAS a geek.
>>146752895>Self insert vidya us key to selling a childrens franchiseI've discovered this truth years ago, it's why pokemon works so well. Hell, even Harry Potter, Harry is the hero but you can easily imagine yourself as student in one of the houses, what your wand and broom and that ghost anime thing would be, etc. Not every franchise needs it, but it really helps tap into some kind of autism.I don't know how Ben 10 could be changed into that or if it really needs to be changed, maybe if there's multiple omnitrixes but I'm not sure if I want to see that
>>146754994It being a slur was a retcon. Originally, that actually was what they were called.
>>146755746Yeah. No shit. Why do you post things everybody knows???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
What's the name of that artist who did those lewd Kevin x Ben panels?
>>146755746No, it was always a term the Plumbers came up with. Just because Max called them that doesn't mean it wasn't a slur. He was just old fashioned.
>>146755746Somebody didnt grow up with a vietnam war vet grandpa.
>>146751626oh I have no taste...when grandpa max claps alien cheeks he is a chad with patrician taste but when I suggest that ben gives it a shot with alien girls then everybody loses their minds.gtfo my face with that shit anon, max did better by choosing alien girls than most men in that universe, first xylene and then that anodite chick.ben can do so much better than a mere human woman, it isn't being a coomer or a xenofucker but actually being wise to choose better, besides the omnitrix was literally made for that shit anyways and cross barriers with no issues.ben can either create the perfect wife for him or choose an alien chick who will certainly perform far better than any woman on earth could do.>>146751654nah, julie was to me practice and besides she was ungrateful too, she won't be anywhere near the person she would be without ben.
>>146756828I'm not a retard who thinks Max is a mean spirited coomer like you and I also never said he was chad. He has objectively bad taste in women. In fact the women he chose were disgustingly bland. Kai is fucking tasty.
>>146756989Imagine making a pairing that no one gives a fuck about 10 years later.
>benpedo thread
>>146753987Not really the thing.
I see Ink Tank released a new breakdown. Hoping it'll push me to make some progress in Omniverse. There are episodes and things I like here and there, but on the whole, I can't really say I've been enjoying the series all that much.>>146751803I think he has done it before. I can't find any audio rips of it right now, but when FusionFall was still deciding between using OS Ben or AF Ben, they had Yuri play kid Ben.
>>146759649yep
Agreed.
>>146756989you just a thing for colonization anon, aka banging latinas and native americans.kai ain't shit, ben literally had a damn repertoire of girls he could choose and even the potential to make one himself.he was a damn fool, julie should had taught him enough about having a relationship with a human.anyone in his damn position would have gone for an alien girl out of common sense, the relationship would have been comfy and stable.and wanna know something funny, most popular girls on the show are either mixed with alien or straight up is an alien, with gwen being a literal alien girl made off of magical energy or something.ben was done so dirty by not ending with an alien girl.
>>146761873>you just have a thing for colonialsation and want to bang native americansYeah but that's not why I like Kai. I like her for her awesomeness and her personality. Plus, she's very very attractive.>and latinasEWWW
>>146761954>Implying they'd be able to without vomiting
>>146761954brown poo poo pajeet demoraliser shill faggot.
>>146750648Kevin was too powerful in the original series. Ben and Kevin together could handle any threat with little effort. The reason why Kevin could join the team in Alien Force was because Kevin was nerfed heavily.
>>146762007I second this, I get having an incest fetish but what the fuck possesses people into thinking that Ben and Gwen as characters would be sexually attracted to one another? Like 25% of the OS is about how gross they find each other.
>>146750648>Gwen has someone to crush on Gwen is a filthy coalburner.
>>146762270>nerfed heavily.>In the series that took him from street level to multi-dimension
>>146762300To quote that other anon. No one knows or cares who this is. He literally stops showing up after season 2.
>>146762300Why did they get Tara back for the reboot but not Gwen's original VA?
>>146762324Yeah and they nerfed him by making him hold back drastically.
>>146762324What?
>>146762300blacked
>>146762324Kevin was a complete Jobber in Alien Force. He was even weaker than Gwen.
>>146762592Looking back, the action scenes were really ass. That and everything's so fucking dark for no reason. Lighten up the picture, guys. Or use different colors.
>>146762340Because Tara bitched to high heavens about the PPG reboot so they gave her Kid Ben again.
>>146762647Honestly she deserves recognition for her talents. She's one of the best and most classic vas out there. She should get to keep voicing her characters.
>>146762300>The two pairings that MoA themselves crafted are either hated or completely ignored.I genuinely wonder how they feel about everyone shipping Ben/Gwen and/or Gwen/Kevin.
>>146762298>Like 25% of the OS is about how gross they find each otherthey took it as them being in denial and then as the show progressed with both of them bonding over the summer with all that good shit we all came to love...those faggots took it as an actual bonding experience to push boundaries.thus since it was new and naughty, ben x gwen became a thing and with that sparking permanently on the internet the incest kink.
>>146763938They didn't grow during the summer they kept hating each other thought. And no it had less than 200 fics back in 2008. And nowadays kevin/Ben has more
>>146762300And then the RB had the constant gwevin teases it was a one off
>>146764860>And nowadays kevin/Ben has morekarma's a bitch.anyways it is merely because it was kinky I guess.it didn't help the fanarts and the VAs signed that shit thus giving it "legitimacy".
>>146751385Remember that Ben can turn into a countless amount of aliens. At least one of them has to be Gwen's fetish.
Hanging out with reformed space nazis.
>>146764860It's true that their average dynamic didn't grow over the seasons, but several moments from the original series show that they actually appreciate each other but don't like to admit it.
I have nowhere to comment this, so I'll use this thread.Ever since THE Incognitymous comic (you all know the one) went full NTR, i've been unironically ultra mad.
>>146765582I mean Ben's been fucking other women aside from Gwen, it's not like they've been in a wholesome monogamy this whole time.
>>146752865>to make him have practically no qualities or make him a worse person as the series progresses.He wasn't THAT bad, jesus christ. You act like if he was Bloo or something. Honestly, some parts of Ben's ego is justifiable by the fact he really IS doing most of the heavy lifting - espically later on. Gwen and Max always felt like more as minor support than being a cohesive 3 person unit. Should've had Gwen be more powerful with her magic; at least enough to rival some of Ben's aliens forms, and played into Max's tech skills and alien knowledge far more.
>>146765582I don't know what you were expecting, Incog isn't a very good writer even by porn comics standards and he constantly makes his many fetishes drag down the quality of his comics, I'm honestly surprised it took this guy so long to put NTR in.>>146765611To be completely fair, a man having sex with multiple women and a woman having sex with multiple men do not have the same implications, at least not in a porn comic.
>>146765714>To be completely fair, a man having sex with multiple women and a woman having sex with multiple men do not have the same implications, at least not in a porn comic.You're right, but I don't recall them really being a couple, just fuckbuddies.
>>146765714I know he loves his futa and swinging shit, but dunno. Precisely because it's been going on for so long, maybe I expected him to keep this one more vanilla...Then again, what I find deeply disturbing is that it upset me at all. Like, its just a stupid porn comic. Why did I got so mad at this? fucks sake im retarded
>>146764860The "Should have been me" scene from Secret of the Omnitrix did so much heavy lifting you don't even understand
>>146765679Ben(OS) wasn't a terrible character but I think we can agree that increasing his flaws, not properly showing the qualities he's supposed to have, making Gwen gain qualities that were more suited to him and preventing him from having character development were things that greatly damaged the overall quality of the series and especially the character dynamic between him and Gwen.
>>146765847Still ignores actual shit for something that doesnt fit the characters.
>>146764962Kevin can too tho?
>>146765105Nice
>>146762300The reboot was really fucking weird at times.
>>146769659>Be Morningstar>Theme is addiction as a foil to Kevin>Everyone thinks you're a rapist
>>146765105Anodites would be fun.
>>146766824Kevin literally has the ability to change his hands into dildos.
>>146769659It's funny how they get away with potentially killing off a teenager by saying that he's hundreds of years old actually.
>>146769659wtf why is top better?
>>146770245I don't think there is a single lewd piece of art of older Kevin and younger Gwen which is weird to me.
>>146750648true
>>146770594Meanwhile I've seen a pic or two of older Kevin and younger Ben.
>>146771539Weird
The fingers alone almost made me give up on the pic entirely. But I stuck with it. Looked a lot better once it was all colored. Pretty happy with how the hair turned out too.
>>146772708Nice
>>146762592Anon, OS kevin 11 was a mega jobber too....
>>146770245Kek
>>146762339He comes back in S4 and one of the specials I think, but it doesn't go anywhere and they should have committed to Kevin.>>146769943He's not dead, he's still sentient trapped in Charmcaster's book.
>>146774336But Charmcaster's book literally got burned up, which was after Michael was trapped in it.Only thing that could suggest he's alive is this quick cameo joke, which might just be footage from an old movie he was in for all we know.
>>146750648And don't forget when he did joined the crew in Alien Force, it felt so cheap and out of nowhere, Kevin from AF is an entirely different character
>>146774509They really should've developed it better. Actually take some time to transform him from the guy we saw in OS to the guy that Ben would call his best friend and the love of Gwen's life.
>>146774509Did you just not watch Kevin's first episode?
>>146769943>Voiced by Drake Bell
>>146769674If Darkstar was a chick people here would think his hot.
>>146775254If Kevin's debut was moderately different and the rest of his appearances were completely different maybe it could have worked(though it would still have its drawbacks), but if it were a direct sequel it would be very difficult to get it right, Kevin's flaws were too many and too big for a proper redemption subplot, and even if it could be done, it wouldn't undo the fact that Kevin threatened to kill Gwen and constantly tried to kill her cousin, which seems to me to cross a line that a love interest shouldn't cross.
>>146776699>but if it were a direct sequel it would be very difficult to get it right, Kevin's flaws were too many and too big for a proper redemption subplot,Literally 80% of the IP's run disagrees with you. Even MoA themselves said Kevin was always suppose to be more of a sad boy tragic character,
>>146776699>which seems to me to cross a line that a love interest shouldn't cross.This sorta shit happens all the ding damn time in media though.
>>146776699The McDuffie drops literally had Kevin originally splitting into to two to keep the continuity with the OS future, CN simply said no so you got what you got.
>>146776699yeah but girls like bad boys anon and that's hot, it gets their fee fees going and thus is goodfunny how they could have made ben end with charmcaster yet they didn't spare her
>>146777087I don't know, I can only think of two or three examples where the man has done something really comparable to his love interest and the relationship still exists, cases where the damage is so strong, direct and intentional are rare in family and mainstream entertainment, at least as far as I've been able to see.
>>146777329>People are shocked Gwen fell in love with Kevin when his only competition where two gross manlets in Ben and Cooper.
>>146777486not really, most guys I knew in school practically saw it coming.also gross manlet? more like late bloomer, ben 10000 is a gigachad.
>>146776943I'm aware of what the sequels have done, but I was clearly referring to it being done well and having good writing, which clearly wasn't the case.>Even MoA themselves said Kevin was always suppose to be more of a sad boy tragic characterWhat's the source? I ask because it's possible they were referring to it being an idea at some point in production but eventually being dropped or similar nuances, I personally think if they were really planning to go with that idea the way they wrote Kevin would be very different, but I'm curious.>>146777215It sounds like a stupid idea that came from a guy who forgot how Kevin's powers worked when it didn't suit the plot.>>146777486There was also the billionaire kid.
>>146777329Even within the bad guys there are nuances, when the whole situation with Gale and Prim from the Hunger Games happened, their popularity was never the same again.
>>146777590>There was also the billionaire kid.No powers thus minimal things to do with him. Kevin/Gwen covers so many themes and what not it would be kind of stupid not to do it if you wanted to add romance.
>>146777769Super technology is supposed to exist and the kid has an incredibly rich grandfather, it would be extremely easy to give him some of that technology and join him to the group, there would have been no need to nerf Kevin massively and it would have been very easy to give him power-ups without compromising the story.
>>146777087Vegeta being an example.
>>146778157True, but anyone expecting good writing from Dragon Ball (especially in romance) is retarded.
>>146778190Videl best girl tho
>>146765105Good design choice that Reiny's Swampfire hand is also bloomed now
>>146778102Doesn't have the same connection Kevin does with Ben and Gwen. You would still have the same problem you do with Kevin where it comes out of nowhere.
>>146779261Yp
>>146779473>Doesn't have the same connection Kevin does with Ben and GwenThat's kind of the point, the connection they have with Kevin in the original series was very negative while the connection they had with the rich kid was small but positive, also, the fact that they know him relatively little is a positive thing because it allows for more adjustments to be made to his personality so that he fits the needs of the show without contradicting the original.>You would still have the same problem you do with Kevin where it comes out of nowhere.The presence of good Kevin carries many problems that the rich kid doesn't, personally I would have preferred them to make a new character to be Gwen's love interest, but I maintain that the rich kid could have been a decent choice.
>>146780662>personally I would have preferred them to make a new character to be Gwen's love interestPeople would still complain about it coming out of nowhere and solely existing to stop incest shipping like they did with Gwen and Kevin.
>>146780735If it had been done and people had only complained about those two things, they would not be valid criticisms, because trying to stop the incestuous shipping is a good thing and it is expected that a sequel will introduce new characters.
>>146780882It can also be expected that more mature take on a series might change previously established characters.Kevin staying as a bad guy would have gotten old pretty quick. You can only do so much with his whole, "I'm the MC but crazy!."
>>146780944A purely evil character can retain his charm for a long time, it can be difficult when he is the only antagonist but that was never going to be the case with Kevin.It's one thing to have a character change, and another to have him retain only a few superficial and greatly attenuated traits of his former personality, especially when those changes occur off-screen.
>>146777486back in that time people liked the romance with le bad boys still the romance was rushed but people can change after a time they all have different experiences so its no rare to see a more chill kevin
>>146750887Don't bother trying anon. You're dealing with a newer generation that grew up inserting as Kevin.
>>146781295I think this is an extremely disingenuous take considering this is /co/. You can't really complain that people like THE cannon pairing that's been a thing for over 15 years across numerus series and even a reboot while overly fellating the singular aspect that gets talked about more then others in regards to the first series.
>>146781350Maybe, but you also can't deny that there are a lot of people who bring everything back to Kevin romance in every chance they can. It's Kevin Kevin Kevin. It's this situation that a lot of cartoon threads these last years have felt like they suffer from. A good deal of anons just latch onto one boy and decide everything revolves around him and take departures from that with severe disdain. This one seems to have been built from some kind of contrarian instinct to go against the main fandom pairing of Gwen and Ben. But it's all nonsense. Personally, I don't like any of these characters really dealing with romance myself. I liked Kevin as the villain from the first series and the massive monster he'd become as Kevin 11000 and I don't really like any of the spin offs and sequel series and what they tried to do with the canon. I don't have much of a dog in this race. It's the level of self inserting and contrarianism that baffles me.
>>146781401You like Kevin for something he hasn't been in 15 years and probably won't ever be again from a character standpoint. It would be like complaining that you hated that Darth Vader is Luke's father as the Phantom Menace is coming out. His character has long since evolved passed his OS version and his relationship with Gwen is a massive part of that.
>>146781401Anon this thread is about that.
>>146781716And you do realize good guy kevin is more popular right? And that this ALWAYS happens to the edgy mirror of the hero.
>>146781136He's an interesting foil to Ben that is way more interesting if he goes good at some point.
>>146777486Had AF's development turned out differently, we would've gotten Cooper and probably not as the fat gamer dude but Kevin it was.
All this arguing about Ben and Gwen forgiving Kevin early is weird to me when UAF literally flat out says Ben let him tag along because he was their ride. Even Gwen spends a lot of time thinking he's a dick. Did it all happen quick? Sure but did any of the characters really have a choice?
>>146781401NTA but even as someone who doesn't care about shipping, Kevin has been far, far more entertaining post-AF. 90% of the memes the show gets come from quoting him, and even Rook as a character works well because he slots in neatly between Gwen and Kevin that it would feel incomplete if the full team of Ben's buddies was just Ben, Rook and Gwen. Sure his redemption was rushed but a lot of the most memorable parts of the series stem from him being on the team even if the execution is somewhat botched at times. Osmosians and their subsequent retconning by the Rooters, Argit and by extension Looma, people clamoring for a Charmcaster/Albedo redemption, a Gwen spinoff, Reboot stuff, fucking Ultimate Kevin arc that everyone still loves to talk about. Hell, Ultimate Kevin itself is so memorable because he went from bad to good to bad again and seeing the others react to it instead of just evil Kevin but Ultimate. Whether it's well written or not is another thing but a lot of people love the arc just for the emotional stakes it provided as opposed to just being another hard to take down bad guy like Aggregor
>>146750648Another hard reboot is needed and I hope the comics at least play with the idea in some way. Ben worked better as a character with Kevin on the team. They had a nice brotherly relationship.
>>146781720>And that this ALWAYS happens to the edgy mirror of the hero.Shadow the fucking Hedgehog for one.
>>146782354In a weird blunt sense I actually kind of like that episode where Kevin pops in to help fight ghostfreaks where he pretty much bullies Cooper for being a beta orbiter. That lesson isn't instilled enough into kids.
>>146783389I find it strange that they finagled Kevin into OV flashbacks a good bit but never tried to shove Kai into any of them.
>>146783389That episode had a dozen retcons a minute. Nothing about it made any sense, and none it ever comes back so it might as well not be canon.
>>146783317>Another hard reboot is neededI have been summoned.>Total reboot.>Ben gets the Omnitrix at 15 rather than 10.>No road-trip. Bellwood’s the main setting.>Julie’s the love interest.>Ben and Gwen are twin siblings here since them being cousins is now unnecessary.>We actually see Kevin’s development to being a hero, or anti-hero/dark hero in this case. This includes his and Gwen’s blossoming relationship, and his and Ben’s brotherly friendship. He could be the Han Solo to Ben and Gwen’s Luke and Leia.>Charmcaster is Gwen’s foil and a Black Cat analogue to Ben. She’s the Bad Girl Veronica to Julie’s Good Girl Betty.>6-10 episodes a season. 10 if you wanna be cute about it. That way the budget’s better spread throughout.
>>146784142Technically we don't know WHEN exactly it takes place but it is seemingly before Kevin joins the Rooters. This means that theoretically Servantus could have just wiped this part of everyones memory.
>>146784213>This means that theoretically Servantus could have just wiped this part of everyones memory.Why?
>>146784142Ben already soft rebooted the universe. There's your explanations for any changes.
>>146784157not bad but keep the romance out of the equation.that's how ATLA died out at last season, make romance take place in the epilogue.
>>146784368The idea that people don't enjoy romance seems silly to me. The problem with the last airbender is that no one gave a fuck about Aang and Katara.
>>146784368>not bad but keep the romance out of the equation.These are teenagers, my guy.
>>146784385>The problem with the last airbender is that no one gave a fuck about Aang and Katara.Makes it funnier that Aang was one of the creator's self insert and he got butthurt that fans wanted Katara with Zuko instead.
>>146756828Grandpa Max is just Kay from Men in Black The Series
>>146784411I know...just for once I hope there's a show where the people set aside romance for the story and plot.>>146784431oh wow...man that got to sting, anyhow creators should put the integrity of their show over their own needs, including giving up on love interests.
>>146784431No one likes bald dudes. It was inevitable.
>>146784431>>146784860>>146785510To be completely fair, the idea that Zuko would prefer Katara is highly questionable.
