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New episode tonight
https://youtu.be/hLsvfN8JkUw
Any hopes or expectations?
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Ryona
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is this a kid show for adults, or adult show for kids?
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>>146760805
I'm hoping with this being an exhibition tournament that we get a bunch of cool one off designs and characters in the background and in some fights. I was expecting Andy to have a fight montage or something but the preview seems to imply it's going to be a challenge just finding a fight so that may not happen. I do think it's kind of funny that the show acknowledges that Andy has just blown up in strength every fight.
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>>146760872
No one knows, it's part of the mystery
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Is this show good?
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>>146760805
That art style is super bland
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>>146760983
Not really, but hardly anything is airing and the animation is decent.
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>>146760983
So far it's enjoyable. Likeable protagonist and supporting cast. The world is weird enough to have some interesting questions and some uncertain ones.
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>>146761343
She get naked in any episodes?
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>>146760983
I like it. It's not great but it passes and its better than the dtva slop imo. Solid 7/10
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>>146760805
Mega for the previous episodes please?
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>>146761349
No. There's some costume damage but no naked shots yet.
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>>146760805
Doing 100 sit ups every day in honor of Andy
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>>146760815
Not much recently but maybe in Andy's tournament matches.
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>>146761387
>better than the dtva slop imo
This. Andy has decent ambitions and doesn't rely on quirkiness to seem interesting. Plus it has a fun world.
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>>146761645
Yeah, here's the first six.
>E01
https://mega.nz/file/RRx1SDaC#_pj6Re5dz9HeS2pdvyQyiZY4mj0PiFoK2beNP6VLrBs

>E02
https://mega.nz/file/RBwwWZDR#GbbI1pdKMZ_hog4me3vus6sAZDIfHW8dwy114Tb_CaA

>E03
https://mega.nz/file/RN40mAoI#WFokKU_ZUS9zUg8LXbokMEbwSVt-Ix-Dm-4kJ3m7Mo8

>E04
https://mega.nz/file/dJ4zGAQR#uWS2fSC0qpCo96PLFLxp5KEqP_dHULaM8yZJ2K-ybRE

>E05
https://mega.nz/file/4dwTxZ6b#hT4GO0H2R0FWyMQWgR_d6JyJPxjjXPZEWP34Ck2CIxs

>E06
https://mega.nz/file/wcpjzKaL#jhX6MUvDbj_BTJi2RQgSVr9CRT2NRiy8Lqe4OUOH1uM

Then episode seven
https://big.fileditchstuff.me/b47/lLvZRloDzOVwSKAwzKO.mp4
The guy who rips the smaller file sized ones didn't do one for episode seven so it's going to be a stream rip. Hope he's still around since the smaller filesized helped a lot.
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Why can't these shows air on the same hours Steven Universe did
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>>146762790
Cuz zaslav is a piece of shit
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>>146762790
What time slot was that?
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>>146762876

And they can't compete with Nick and Disney shows
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New promo art
>>146762900
Monday nights new @ 7 block, usuly 8pm est. Easy time b4 bed for typical kiddos
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>>146763116
Monday seems like a weird day for premiers. I think since Cartoon Network doesn't do action shows right now Andy gets put in a weird spot. Her show is also anime inspired so I get why they're putting it on Toonami. Not an unusual thing for them to do.
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>>146763139
Better than frigging steven bomb
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>>146760983
It's heart is in the right place.
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>>146763116
Masked guy seems ominous. Don't think we saw him in the trailer or preview yet.
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>>146763183
Anything is better than those. Those felt like the precursor to the shitty dump a whole season at once format Netflix and other networks or services would use. It's fucking annoying.
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>>146760805
I hope Goldy fights at some point.
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>>146760805
How is she still so flat?
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>>146764801
She's only fourteen. Give her a bit of a break.
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>>146762763
Thanks!
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I hope we see Andy's feet again.
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>>146766171
If only. Maybe if Andy picks up a new fighting style or fights a different themed opponent.
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THIS EPISODE IS ANIMATED DIFFERENTLY
WHY WASN'T IT ANIMATED LIKE THIS THE WHOLE TIME
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MBrandon is a good guy
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>>146766725
Was the episode already streamed? It's still not in my time zone just yet.
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>>146766725
it has star vs. disease
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>>146760805
Mbrandon is a real bro, he deserves the Andybowl
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>>146760872
It's a kids show for kids just like MAWS but Zaslav vehemently refuses to let CN have new stuff airing
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>>146763110
>And they can't compete with Nick and Disney shows
They dug their own graves the moment they decided TTG was the safe choice all the time
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>Invincible Fight Girl S01E08 - The Rusty Rumble 1080p DTVS WEB-DL
https://big.fileditchstuff.me/b48/wGIrudYHHeRKvmjHxlxg.mp4
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i stomp on gumball, poo involuntarily erupts from his anus in a high pitched squeal. Fairy blob laughs
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>>146768587
Hot dang. Early this time around. Thanks anon. Both for this one and for being on point with these.
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New promo:
https://twitter.com/swimpedia/status/1868167312148148401
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That was a really good episode. I can't believe I'm hyped for the perm gang rematch of all things but here we are
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>>146760805
Looks like woke garbage
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>>146768975
It surprisingly isn't, so far. I can only describe it as "action kids show circa 2010 somehow misplaced into 2024 adult swim". Watch it and tell me this wouldn't have aired right between chop socky chooks and hero 108 back then.
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>>146768975
Woke is a meaningless word anyway
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Finally got a front shot of the not-Juri.
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So Keith David is a character in the show too. When Moon Girl had it's narrator be a character it ended up being interesting and adding some unique spice to the narration. Also looks like he has a deep connection to Poblana and the wrestling world as a whole.
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>>146767525
Glad to see him back and to see that he has his own Ken and Ryu thing going on with Opening Act.
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>>146768924
Immaculate and the rest of the gang sure look like they've been through some rough stuff since Andy last saw them. Andy got a lucky grab in to end that first fight early. Can't imagine her getting another shot like that again.
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>>146760872
Its a shonen, which means its a kids show where its okay for people to get beat up, but also most fights will be won with the "power of friendship"
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>>146760805
I'm sorry, i'm pulling a blank. Who is this referencing? Carl Weathers?
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>>146770034
The face and mustache definitely looks like him. The outfit and satchel is one of the more accurate mailman outfit I've seen before which I'm not sure how that ties in.
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oh hey sick.
i didn't know m.a. larson was working on this.
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>>146770050
OOOOHH, Karl Malone maybe? He was a famous player for the Utah Jazz; his nickname was the Mailman. He had the handlebar mustache, but I remember him being bald mostly.
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>>146760805
Stinkmeaner?!
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>>146770263
That's quite the reference if that's the case, but it would answer pretty much everything about the outfit and style. Good catch there anon. Wouldn't have expected something like that here. I was thinking it would be primarily anime and game references like the Not-ruto and crew here >>146770260
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>>146770306
He made his way out of hell again and this time wound up in a whole other series. And somehow ended up voiced my Keith David of all people on his way here.
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>>146770306
Awww shieeet, he's gon fuck andy shit up
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Still not on Max
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>>146768587
Holy mother of echo
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So what's with the animation change this episode? Did they finally stop giving the show to Koreans?
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>>146770728
Probably switched to Flying Bark
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Da Samurai had a child
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>>146760805
Expect to ain't watch that shit
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>>146770916
Small dick Lenny over here
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>>146770791
I was mad that da samurai didn’t return as an accomplished warrior.
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>>146769002
Woke is a term that can mean “anything that offends me”. Like the fact that the main character is a black female who fights way above her weight class and either wins or holds her own is what some people would call woke. In reality it is an “action kids show” but some people can’t help but politicize everything they see and it’s not hard to call pretty much anything woke if you really want to call it woke.
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>>146770685
Interestingly enough, when I download the video and play it in VLC on my tablet, there’s no echo
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>>146770753
What's Flying Bark?
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>>146771179
she doesn't even have any solo wins outside of Bertie. her first win was from an assist from granny and she lost to mbrandon.
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>>146760805
I both love and hate the artstyle give the glasses guy a nose for gods sake
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>>146769873
>>146770791
I actually like they made him a good fighter, really showed how in a way andy wasn't on mbrandon's level. As we see those two were bringing the best out of each other as both weren't just plucky and determined but also highly trained and skilled. Good andy gets a reality check even if just seeing some real wrestling.
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>>146762763
hello, here's both logoless eps
>E07
https://mega.nz/file/FApDFAIT#HKWwVaQ_YoTe-gAO_ut8m2yZI27Bhvct8ExzCsb0O1M
>E08
https://mega.nz/file/EF5nzZzQ#7UtutDUps_oo6F9NDOg9oAY0DhlTOiiQdnbgWJn2aMI
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>>146769249
>>146770306
I honestly predicted this guy would be keith david, but now I wonder if he has bertie now? Since he was the narrator and think that was only ep with true narration. Does that mean he was telling us that part from the future after he got his hand on bertie for the GWC or was it info he knew maybe monitoring her as he said he's always on the lookout for new talent. though now I wonder who the standing hydra is as well.

I kind of hope in ep 10 we get to see some real GWC fighters/the new gen they keep mentioning. I'd imagine most of the old fighters are aging out or are injured

>Poblana-old
>Ruff and tumble-old and out of prime/crazed
>Mikey's dad-limp/crippled
>Poblana old team- one is stated to be training/on a pilgrimage others we don't know
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We running this shit back accountant girl. Final destination, no items, Fox only!
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Invincible Fight Girl insists upon itself.
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>>146772853
His name was listed as Scouter in the credits, most likely a placeholder name, and he was out there scouting out the talent so it does feel like his crew would have snatched up Bertie if she was still wandering out there. And considering the state she was in I really doubt she'd have been able to say no. It's either with that crew or out on the street most likely like the Perm Gang. Which does make me wonder why they passed on the Perm Gang after they went destitute, but considering the world revolves around wrestling I would guess it be because Andy messed up on their taxes since she never actually did them so they got screwed and abandoned by the wrestling government. Either way with the focus on the younger and newer wrestlers this episode had and the way the old guard is falling out like you describe it does seem like the new generation is a theme in this show.
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>>146773219
I mean just a headpat and food, and grandfatherly vibe and she'd be his in a second. She had no parental love and was closer to a broken beast/little girl. Be easy to subdue her.

I mean since we see many aren't official who knows, but with perm gang since odds are andy will beat them. And he didn't recognize the leg crank but Mbrandon did, they are like those rookies/people that state in the low league never in a official league let alone the UFC etc. But really also they are looking for young talent they mention the next generation over and over, so bertie a insanely strong kid of two top 100 fighters of old gen plus with a berserker mode/insane muscles is like not prospecting Kobe Bryant. She's a D1 prospect, also yeah hope it is, because young and cool fighters like standing hydra(hoping she's andy's age or younger based on her height) but yeah young rivals for andy would be fun.
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>>146773310
That's true. Just a bit of kindness after the beating and running out of town by her parents and their crew would probably be all it would take to recruit Bertie. Sad.
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>>146772842
NTA, but thanks mate!
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>>146773551
It is not just recruiting but probably making her the most loyal subordinate. Honestly, I miss when more villains really were good at gaining loyalty and using peoples hang ups to make them feel valued and needed. You get a peak antagonist and honestly that'd be cool a play on that one guy that raised up Mike Tyson, using a innocent/naive person and turning them into a demon who won't notice you are actually shady and scummy behind closed doors.
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Prediction:
>Andy will not to do 10 Perfect Strikes, but she'll manage 1
>Quesa Poblana will tell Andy to leave her alone
>Keith David steps in and offers training
>Quesa Poblana will change her tune, telling Andy to not accept the offer, and at the very end even offer to train her
>Cliffhanger, which one will Andy chose to go with
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>>146772842
Glad to see you again anon. Thanks for these. Helps so much with low storage space.
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>>146773794
How tall is andy in canon?
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>>146773802
Good question. We got a character this episode who read off a bunch of wrestlers heights and weights but Andy's just happened to be one that wrestler skipped over. Though we can kind of guess around the ball park of her height? One guy in the analysis was about four feet seven and Andy calls herself and Stand Hydra, the analysis, the smallest wrestlers so we can maybe guess Andy is four feet nothing or close? It's a rough guesstimate but it does sort of work with Andy being small.
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>>146769873
HE GOT A BOYFRIEND??
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>>146773939
Everyones getting laid except Andy.
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>>146773664
Yeah it does feel like it's been a while since we last got a villain who recruited through genuine loyalty. If he's supposed to be one of the recruiters of the wrestling world, and the wrestling world is the biggest thing there is, then he should be someone set up to be an antagonist nicely. Especially with the way Poblana reacted to him. And I said this with Amphibia, but I really doubt anyone would get Keith David of all people to voice a minor character. I'd bet he's going to be a big deal later on.
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>>146773710
>Cliffhanger, which one will Andy chose to go with
Oh hey, I like this idea. Andy has been dealing with nothing but rejection from Poblana, the wrestler she had went all this way to get training from. So a big guy from the wrestling world offering her a chance and acknowledging her growth and skill could be very tempting.
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>>146770306
>Final boss of the series is this guy
>Andy shit talks him
>His up till then composed demeanor finally breaks
>"WHAAAT DID YOU SAY NIYUGAAAA!?"
>Lands Perfect Strike
>Boss music starts
https://youtu.be/RV1KkUJivNE?feature=shared
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It's gravity control, isn't it?
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>>146760872
Whatever twitter people are called
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>>146774371
If he channels his inner Stinkmeaner and beats the hell out of Andy it would genuinely be a big season fight. Maybe even something he does only after calling for the cameras and satellite system to be taken down for a few minutes to not hurt sponsorships.
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>>146775273
Probably. That is what it looked like is what took down The Duke. Though that was a lot of dancing for just gravity control. My second guess was that it's some soul binding thing? Invisibly cutting body energy points or pressing pressure points?
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>>146769320
As I said long ago, they were always washed up.
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>>146769873
I honestly thought Opening Act was a woman for a minute.
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>>146775671
That wouldn't have been a bad idea. Could have even been a sort of reflection of a wrestling world raised Andy.
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>Bunny 1 and 2 weren't at the tourney
>Bunny 2 still has no sheet released
>No Bunny 3 yet
A dark day
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>>146773856
Jeez her being that height is a bit hilarious as that would mean she weigh less than 60 lbs. Even the scrawniest /co/ guy could bench andy.
>>146773996
Yep same with honest villain that actually believes in their motives without slime and scummery. Not even the biggest thing the only thing it seems, everything is wrestling here lol.

Yeah he's just one of those guys like getting the dio va in Japanese he'll always be a major character. I do hope we get to see the new no 1, and I hope they are teenish really flow into that next gen of wrestlers. Hate that realizing it now all our GWC info is super old based on kid andy's information she snuck into her island. I mean seriously she had never even heard of rough and tumble or the meat puncher guy so she probably only knew the top 10/ones she heard of at that 1 match. So her info is most likely super out of date.
>>146775273
I mean why has no one guessed poison the most iconic hydra skill. Hydra's were known to be the most poisonous monster in greek mythos
>>146775445
Probably introducing ki(or wresting power system)
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>>146776003
Bunny?
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>>146776279
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>>146776044
>she weigh less than 60 lbs
Almost certainly so. She's got some muscle but she's small even on a best day.
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>>146776327
Ask the character designer on twitter
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>>146776044
>realizing it now all our GWC info is super old based on kid andy's information she snuck into her island
Huh, yeah I didn't think about it but you're right there. Hell she didn't even know Poblana had shrunk to the diminutive stature she is now. Her information and knowledge on wrestling world, techniques, and top wrestlers along with any number of things is possibly many years old. Maybe even a decade if she's fourteen now and looked like this >>146772181 when she saw Poblana.
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>>146776617
Where else would people talk about an animated show? Virtual spaces are it.
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>>146776617
It’s all over Twitter and does numbers every time something drops, since the KV. Sounds like the algo knows its not for you.
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>>146776417
Yeah but her small muscles wouldn't be more than half a pound and honestly she'd be what they called toned/cut. Her body isn't weighed down with extra muscles.
>>146776594
That is true still crazy that had to at most be 10 years. If andy is 14-15 more likely 14 with the whole size thing, but somehow in 10 years she went from a muscle woman with a great build to a old woman missing her teeth and covered in wrinkles.

Literally wtf, also rough and tumble are much older than her since they canonlogically call poblana a rookie and her debut. She somehow outpaced them by 20-30 years, as even fit they are all 50 you don't get smaller like that til your 60-70s especially losing teeth. But she had to be 20 and they had already had bertie so we have to assume maybe they were 30 and are now 40ish how can a 30 year old look like that?
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>>146776702
Don't mind him nobody took his bait
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>>146776754
As I recall, one of the crew last week confirmed that Andy is fourteen so yeah, ten years at most. There really is no normal explanation for how Poblana withered away like that. Well, no normal explanation that could be used in a PG rated show anyway. There's just no way something didn't happen to her there to force that kind of radical change.
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>>146777035
I mean it's on adult swim lol, so not so PG but really no way will be wholesome.

I feel that's it maybe poison, muh powah takes years off my life bs. Unironcially if it does hope she stops andy from using the perfect strike though could be a cool way to age her up

>1 perfect strike takes like 6 months off your life and ages you up
>Next season andy suddenly wakes up after a fight sore then looks in mirror and she's at like 16-17
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>>146776702
>does numbers every time something drops
Yeah it does a whole buncha fat number 2s.
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>>146760805
It's trash.
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>>146776617
>super popular.
Oh yeah, about that...
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>>146777157
>so not so PG
Eh, it's on Toonami and the age rating for each episode so far has been PG so I think there are still some limits to things. But all that aside, I wouldn't mind that to be a price for the perfect strike. Keeps it a very very last resort move rather than something she could just spam. Maybe even prevents her from ever actually using it beyond the one time to get Poblana to train her. Suddenly aging Andy feels like it would be almost too cruel to her.
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>>146777480
There has been more than a few scenes that gave Craig's butt some focus. Seems like Andy isn't the only one a skin tight suit compliments.
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>>146776479
Does he answer questions often? Not really aware of how active the crew for the show is on Twitter.
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>>146776003
I mean, we saw part of one of the bunnies in one scene. But yeah, disappointing none of them got to have a background match. I think we saw more of the Juri look alike this episode than any other random backgrounder. Makes me wonder if she's one of the storyboarder's favorites.
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>>146776754
>toned
There it is. Yeah that's the word for her build. Lithe more than beefy. Means she's got some strength to her but she's still going to be the smallest and lightest around. Stand Hydra is apparently smaller than her but it sounds like she's got some weird stuff going on so I don't think she counts exactly.
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>>146773939
I don't think so. More like a Ken to his Ryu.
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>>146778391
so his boyfriend?
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>>146777325
I mean superman had some blood so I don't think it's a hard PG or adult swim cares. Most parents know what adult swim is at this point and if your kid sees a tit or a gun you really accept the risk if you let them watch.
>>146777975
Yeah might be a bot with the way her scanning went, though who knows also actually brings up a question or two. Like the weird builds and bodies why are wrestlers so inhuman compared to her island where everyone was human? like do you get fucking wrestler super powers or something or just weird stuff like guy fiery or the washing machine guy.

But so is a bot really weird or not, I feel the reveal will be the robot is a top 100 girl, and is in cahoots with the scout guy. She's just there to test her abilities or something, and they'll make her being a bot a big deal. Though as I just said it won't work because what's the difference between her and a walking sprite program and etc
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>>146778679
True. And it's airing at twelve o'clock so they'd hopefully be allowed some leeway if they wanted it. I guess my main thing is that it's hard to tell if this show was from the start intended to be a Toonami one or Cartoon Network one. Depending on how far into development that was decided that could effect things even if it ended up on Toonami. Either way this being a shonen show makes me think it would stay in that age range anyway.
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>>146778792
It was slated to go under Cartoon Network when it was announced.
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>>146778831
That explains things then. I was wondering why the little Andy character sheet and some of the posters and other sheets had that logo on them.
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>>146778792
I feel next scene will go ham most likely, it was made for CN but like many was moved to adult swim. I feel s2 we'll see a lot more blood and bruising because they'll be given more leeway like with MAWS s2 having a bit of a massive shift
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>>146778679
>bot
We have washing machine and living wall guys so that's probably not really that out there and actually very possible. Would be weird to think a robot could be built that could compete with active wrestlers but I guess it's all possible. She could have all sorts of goals. Maybe from Buffcorp or perhaps someone trying to bring them down. With the way the accountants on accountant island managed to survive The Perm Gang's moves I wonder if everyone has some potential and it's only trying to achieve it that keeps everyone from entering the ring. Though I would guess if you're born a walking ball of fire or a cactus guy then your course in life is sort of set into having to become a wrestler.
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>>146779040
The second season of My Adventures With Superman pitched things up in the second season? I only watched the first season so I had no idea. That's interesting. Invincible Fight Girl does feel like it's ramping up the potential tension and threats right now leading into it's first season finale so if there was ever a time to go all out it would be now.
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>>146778545
Maybe you are right.
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>>146773113
what does that even mean?
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>>146760805
Why is this show on adult swim?
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>>146780466
Because kids can't have nice things anymore
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>>146779050
True though the cactus guy had no chance since he was stiff and slow. But quite interesting honestly now I can't wait to see official GWC fighters seems everyone we've seen so far are mooks and losers. Seems you don't gain a true name until you reach the GWC which may be in the top 100.

Yeah more like with the free reign they had a bit more dark themes and showed pain/hurt more in p2 of s1 and more abuse. Like how theirs a whole lab of disfigured and mutilated human experiments in MAWS and the genocide stuff so yeah.

Though idk if fight girl will do it, but maybe more open to show broken bones and bruising or something.
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>>146780822
Oh second part for>>146779288
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>>146780822
>>146780830
Huh, had no idea. I think I only watched up to maybe the second episode of the second season. Thought it was going to stay mostly the same as the first. May be time to eventually get back to it. Anyway, don't know if we can really expect such a direction from this show since it's inherently more cartoony and shonen, but anything is possible I guess.
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>>146776617
>Irl
Of course people come to places like here to talk about the show. That shouldn't be surprising to you that adults choose not to bring up cartoons they're watching to their co-workers and peers. I would feel gross even bringing up normie shit like Invincible in casual conversation.
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>>146781139
I mean shounens show death and eerily realistic limb breaking and reactions. Or kids beaten til they vomit and cry, shounen at it's peak doesn't mess around.

Though the cartoony part maybe saving andy
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>>146781213
Yeah, you're right. I'm not really giving them the credit it deserves in that regard. I sometimes forget it's a very very wide category filled with a lot of possible shows in between.
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>>146781264
Yeah in fact shounen is weird how often many forget even classic astroboy and megaman were technically shounen and revolved around two dead boys turned into manmade horrors.

An remember the scene that fucked with me reading classic astro was seeing astro almost being ripped apart as another guy wanted to revive his own kid/make improved version and he had to kill the guy and his son. An remembered being like holy shit this felt just terrible as point was dad wasn't evil just grieving and the son/daughter was just a bot that wanted to be real so they were both just fucked up.

But most American shounen's tend to forget where the series came from and go raw comedy without being able to stay serious for long. Why the bertie ep was weird to me, like going from such a serious concept and backstory to the comedic poses and faces of the toes vs fingers was weird.
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>>146781306
>going from such a serious concept and backstory to the comedic poses and faces of the toes vs fingers was weird.
It's something I know I've seen in some anime. I felt the first episode of this series had a similar weird level of tonal whiplash in that starting thing where Andy was trying to fight Immaculate. The jump from dramatic struggle as she's being beaten half to death jumping to some chibi stylized joke version of the other accountants fighting the other Perm Gang members to me felt like it really hurt the scene. It's an odd level of tonal whiplash that I genuinely don't think I've seen outside of anime and anime inspired things. Bertie I think at least had the benefit of the joke only being in the lead up and once she revealed herself as the one behind everything and once she went unbound it was serious the rest of the way through. I just hope this series doesn't do another instance of tonal whiplash like the first episode again.
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>>146781356
Nah but see they do it ep by ep almost like a reset you rarely see a anime undermine a series scene usually they end the ep on a serious note.

But in this case they kept flip flopping. Yeah that's true and again why it doesn't work, usually during a serious fight you might have a small joke here or there but more banter like goku vs frieza but he still treated him like a evil tyrant. And they even cut out that one part where it's like a side story about bulma getting possessed by ginyu because it was pointless.

Nah remember they were all doing the goofy voices and poses right after beating their daughter out of town. It felt way to comedic for a blood feud that they lost their daughter over. But yeah not saying anime doesn't do it but most that did are those classic ones which we talked about a lot. Most shows like IFG tend to replicate a bygone era of comedy and timing, like how we consider classic westerns good but if a new one came out and did the same style and formating we'd call it ass because we have new tech and standards. They are replicating stuff from back during the infantile age of anime and when it was ok to use such tropes. But look at new shounen they tend to take themselves more seriously and respect the fans more to be able to read and handle deeper and longer series. But these creators tend to replicate the age when they themselves were finding their footing as writers and a genre, because they based it off of our stuff. They are copying a copy of a early copy of a early copy we might as well call it sloppy toppy heh rhymes my b
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>>146781578
I actually think it worked better in that episode, because it was such a punch to the gut, as if underlining how much they became such assholes.
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>>146781578
I was about to say some recent anime that I know had bad tonal whiplash problems, that but I was thinking recent as things back in 2012. That's long enough that people who were just starting out could already be names in the industry. Still it would mean writers now could be taking bad lessons from those anime too. Either way, you're right about the Ruff and Tumble thing. That they were still posing and joking as their gang beat and stoned their daughter, but I think it was at least manageable there since it was supposed to be jarring and disgusting. Andy herself was appalled by their careless disregard of their own daughter and when the two of them started fighting over recruiting Andy it drove that point even harder. It's not perfect since it's weird how they go from a seemingly happy family to caring about nothing but their dumb toe finger fighting style after only one defeat from Poblana, but outside of the suddenness, it feels intentional and something that's supposed to hurt more because the whiplash of their reaction shows how little they care while Andy is fighting back tears and anger.
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Wait so two on ones are fine as long as you're both in theme?
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>>146781627
True I suppose shows how little they gave a fuck about their little girl
>>146781634
Yeah that's literally 13 years ago soon my guy. But realistically I'm sure some haven't gotten the memo or depends on type. Like undead unluck has a lot of classic manga vibes.

Yeah really wish they at least took a second to show their opinions on it. Also weird they live in a world with fire guys but a hulking teen girl who's only about rough's old height scares them. Like I said another thing about modern shows they tend to write a plot and be like world building be damned. We saw a feral wrestler recently as well but seems like berserker bertie a little girl is somehow enough to scare x GWC/top 100 wrestlers like dafuq. How could anything scare them plus based on how they imply wrestling is bertie scales to mbrandon and opening act at best since andy was able to redirect her and survive her hits barely.

Really why I brought up standing hydra being a robot and the reveal being treated as shocking but worldbuilding wise would honestly be a nothingburger. But it's exactly what they did with bertie oh no someone increased their muscles but we saw mbrandon do that a bit when he did his super punch granted much smaller scale but you are telling me no one else can do that or they've never seen a giant/hulking wrestler before?
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>>146781634
Really again it was ruined by the comedy of it all, remember they didn't even take the perfect strike seriously which is weird as it's the whole thing. As you said really bertie's backstory as I think about it stinks because of her parents. They should have took a serious approach like this

>Losing made them lose their spot in GWC
>They try to redeem themselves but no matter who they beat they aren't as well liked or remembered
>Tons of hit pieces on them saying how they were always the weakest of the rankers
>People saying how they are losers who lost to a rookie
>Them seeing how far poblana keeps climbing as they keep falling
>They lose tons of money and their town falls into shambles partially because of the lost revenue
>Scout introduced just as shadow figure though, tells them to prove themselves by making a strike on par with perfect strike or replicating it
>They become obsessed with revenge and redeeming themselves then slowly the family breaks because they say the other is the one holding them back
>Better showing of a fall from grace and realistically showing how sometimes athletes just have a decline
>Also to better explain bertie maybe imply they started taking performance enhancement drugs
>This effected bertie who took some or was born while they were using it explaining her insane muscle density
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does the show have actual wrestling yet or is it just more shonen fights
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>>146781781
Ironically the most wrestling came from two side characters

>Opening act and Mbrandon was closest to real wrestling in the entire show tons of reversals and grapples mixed with strikes.
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>>146780466
Because of the many instances of a teen girl getting punched in the face.
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>>146781672
Collectivism, I guess.
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>>146781839
Yeah, I have a feeling that's one of the main reasons.
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>>146781731
True. Once you show a brick wall can be a fighter, even as a gag montage, there's nothing else that can really surprise. Well, at least as far as wackiness is concerned. It's still possible they could do spending interesting with Stand Hydra and whatever she could be. Maybe a Gray the Ninelives situation. I think she and a be treated as new and unexpected because we're seeing them through Andy's eyes and while she's a big fan of wrestling she's also only very recently a part of its world.
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>>146782463
Yeah, she’s small fry.
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>>146782463
That is true honestly happy hydra is strong I was worried they'd go the anime trope of guy thinks he's better/strong but is weak asf and then hydra would fight andy to redeem herself like her sasuke. But she's actually op though with how we saw no actual skill I'm worried she might genuinely have powers or something which is lowkey the beginning of the end. As the moment people can do invisible strikes and have aura I feel we'll lose some of the kino that brought most of us. Watching a young black girl getting punched in the face.
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>>146777975
She doesnt have "Build", she lack of any training.
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>>146761349
>>146761690
Considering that this was meant to be on Cartoon Network before being moved to Adult Swim and that this show was already in production before that decision I doubt they had plans to show Andy in any form of nudism, maybe in the second season. Also the other fact that we don't know actually old Andy is, I mean everyone who meets her called her a "kid" as to refers to how immature of a wrestler she is but they haven't confirmed Andy's age yet and if she's underage they're not gonna show her buck naked anytime soon.
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Choose wisely
>team andy
>team bertie
>team hydra
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>>146760805
Is it better or worse than Kid Cosmic?
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>>146783607
We don't know enough about Hydra for her to be a valid option, so I'm sticking with Team Andy.
>>146783640
They're not comparable. Kid Cosmic was a comedy, IFG is action.
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>>146783597
We know she’s 14.
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>>146783741
Yeah, that's underage.
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>>146761349
For me, her prancing around in a tight outfit is better than being naked. It's almost like she is wearing nothing at all
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>>146783863
>It's almost like she is wearing nothing at all

Nothing at all
Nothing at all
Nothing at all
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>>146783863
Nothing at all and has worn it and nothing else for over a week now.
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>>146783444
Good point. If her power is just random dancing until her opponents pass out it would be lame. Part of why I'm hoping Andy at some points fights Stand Hydra. Andy, at least right now, feels like she'd have no other option than to stampede through and punch her down which would be gratifying after her non fight with The Duke.
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>>146784800
True though be ironic if hydra is a glass canon, somehow andy survives the attack though would be bs but somehow stays up and decks hydra causing her to be knocked out or fall over.
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andy is cute and the only reason i enter these threads. i guess i'll wait until this is all out to see if it's worth watching just for her.
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>>146784774
Considering that she did lose all her belongings in like the second episode not like she had a choice.
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>>146776044
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my bet is the dancing is a distraction
and Hydra poisoned him before the match even started
her "philosophy" is going to be to win at any cost
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>>146784990
Yeah alright. Fair point. But I'm sure Craig had some kind of outfit he could have sold her. Would probably end up being something sketchy, knockoff, and stolen but it would be something.
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>>146786815
>I'm sure Craig had some kind of outfit he could have sold her.

If Andy would've dare wore anything made/from Craig she would've ended up naked long ago.
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>>146784967
She's a cutie little punching bag.
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>>146785668
I mean that's kind of the most bitch way to win, not even during the match lol. If that's true hope andy ryonas her into correcting her ways.
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>>146785668
I was thinking long range pressure point but I kind of like this for how much of a shit that would make her. Would mean any beat downs she gets would be well and truly earned. Could also always use a win at any chance wrestler.
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>>146788191
She's the bratty loli everyone wanted under that robe, she believes she must win because she's a true wrestler
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>>146785668
>>146788191
Personally guessing its some sound wave thing that fucked him up when she finished her 'dance'
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>>146788287
Or that. Infrasound is an angle that isn't often exploded. Targeted and focused like animals do it could make for a powerful technique. Though I doubt she'd be a popular wrestler if she kept using it. Which is something I'm wondering about. The crowd didn't seem to really like how her fight went down. Clearly a world run on wrestling wouldn't want wrestlers who can't put on a good show, right? Where would that leave people like her?
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>>146788217
Man I hope so. With Andy becoming more able and getting less beatings getting some other cute girl to get pounded into the mat would be great.
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>>146780466
CN is dying and AS is the new main channel
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>>146789126
Yeah does sound cool especially if she's arrogant about it, she's a dumb brat that thinks she's invincible because she uses poisons or some form of secret skill.
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>>146785668
The hint is in the name. Stand Hydra.
Stand High-Dra.
She can inflict vertigo.
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>>146789498
Interesting though if it was vertigo why did he stop in his tracks and not suddenly lose balance or start having a hard time walking/moving?
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>>146760805
when did Ronaldo get fucking hench
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>>146789498
>vertigo
Huh. You know, I can sort of see it. And having a pun name feels very appropriate. And would be kind of interesting seeing the shortest wrestler inflicting something that often comes from high up places.
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>>146789513
Artistic license?
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>>146781578
I'm glad both of you brought this up, because it is easily the most frusterating thing keeping me from getting behind this show. The frequent attempts at humor are not anywhere near funny or entertaining enough to warrant undermining the serious drama it keeps trying to get us to care about. I don't feel like the show has done enough work to show Andy being taught fundamentals of how to fight or defend herself in the ring which is frusterating when the show is choosing to spending a bunch of time jangling keys trying to get you to laugh at Craig or some goofy chibi skit. When a new match starts, she kindof just downloads the moves she needs to get by and it feels a bit like cheating narratively. Her footwork sliding around the ring when fighting Mbrandon taking out his legs was nuts when all she was taught prior was an ankle crank and how to lean into a punch.

It really needs to decide if it wants to primarily be a comedy or an attempt at emulating a more serious shonen, because it can't seem to juggle both very well. It is disapointing because the artwork and fight choreography is clean as fuck.
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>>146783607
Andy all the way so far. It would take something big to get me off her team.
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>>146790670
Potentially
>>146790812
Yeah I brought this up as well, she went from having no moves or skills against immaculate besides taking a punch and even then she was getting tossed around. But against mbrandon she could suddenly tank punches and move around like a experienced rookie with those low kicks and spins.

Yeah really felt the same about her arm bar on bertie, sure it's a modified arm crank but as someone who did judo. Youd can't just take a leg bind and turn it into a arm bind without doing some high level practice or thinking as it's two fundamental different moves and body parts. Like she didn't even use her legs like in the leg lock but called it a modified ankle crank it's such a different move. But it was perfectly done even using the fundamental logic of joint locks but the ankle crank would use such a different philosophy in how it would work. Either way as you said sometimes felt she just got the skills to stay up long enough to do the new move she's trying or needs. I feel it does detriment andy's growth, why not show her practicing her ankle crank and someone like Mikey mentions a arm bar would be better etc. Also you can't learn the timing on a head block easily without practicing on a opponent.

Hopefully s2 will lock in as seems the scout is bringing in the serious plot, and fighters will get more desperate and serious in s2/gwc arc. Though I'd hate a fighter to have worked their whole life training to be a top 100/gwc fighter and andy just wins with perfect strike or new move of the day with no proprietary training in other skills. A better version of this is "how to fight" where the mc learns new moves every arc/few chapters but he literally trains for it for months. Like he learned the head block thing but spent a week learning it and his special low kick move. An he wasn't suddenly moving like a experienced beast he was awkward and lame looking but he won. So yeah I say that's the better way to do it slowly building up
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>>146790812
It's tough. I really like the leg work Andy had on display here and the speedy fighting style is kind of cool. But canonically this is taking place the second day she got to town. Which means this is only one boat ride and a day and a half away from her only having one move against Immaculate. Unless it turns out there was a master trainer on the boat that we just skipped over there's really no explanation for how she's this good already. They could have at least spliced in flashback moments of Andy practicing foot work back on accountant island by herself and smashing her head against rocks and trees to build up a damage tolerance. It would be weird to think she didn't use any of that against Immaculate but at least it would be some explanation for how she can do all this. Any explanation at this point would have been appreciated. It's almost funny how Mikey quickly picks up on how impossibly good Andy is getting and how she just is good enough to be in the ring with people every time she tries. Andy picks up on this too after he mentions it. The cast is aware of her explosive growth and I don't know if that really makes it any better. I don't even think they can really do an "accountants are naturally skilled at analysis so that's why she's learning so fast" thing since we saw Andy was kind of shit at accounting.

I don't particularly mind the humor in recent episodes. It was egregiously bad anime in the first episode, but it has been more fine after that. Still, they still could have cut at least one or two jokes to give Andy some training on the side. I know it's sometimes a trope to make anime characters impossibly skilled at young ages but there are some tropes the show could have done without borrowing from.
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>>146792208
This brings to mind something I was surprised to look back on with Hajime No Ippo. Ippo's boxing matches are months apart. He's constantly training in between them and we see primarily see the big moments of those training months but we know he's not just waking up one day and is ready to fight his next strong opponent. I know this show gave Andy a tight time limit so she didn't really have that luxury but something may have helped. It's going to be strange if she really does pop in and start taking on top one hundred wrestlers any time soon.
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>>146789136
That's about it yeah. Though I would have thought they'd be doing anything to try and bring people back. A new show could have been a step towards that.
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>>146772245
She absolutely won her first fight by submission. It was over before granny did anything. The guy didn’t want to accept his defeat and granny stepped in at that point but fight #1 was a victory. She lost to M Brandon but she clearly held her own against him and even had him shook in that fight and she beat Bertie who was easily presenting as more powerful than M Brandon.
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>>146791848
Replace the kid on the left with Craig and now we're talking.
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>>146760805
High hopes
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>>146791848
>>146792136
Come on, we all know it's gonna be Craig.
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>>146792785
Yep also pretty realistic especially for a rookie, their'd be tons of down time as no one really wants to fight you. You are trying to cut your teeth by fighting others a bit like the new ep of andy begging for a good fight. An again ippo actually trained and more than one move the true flaw of this current arc is andy is training one specific move and nothing else also 7 days but in the about 7 days she's been doing this. She's had insane growth just from nothing

>Day 0/1
Fights Mbrandon and is suddenly able to tank multiple punches most likely stronger than immaculates. Also being able to suddenly keep up with a experience fighters tempo and speed
>Day 3
Goes to find rough and tumble, is able to fight bertie and makes a new move right out of her ass "arm crank" cuz I le modif muh leg crank.
Day 7 spoiler for next ep
Beats immaculate easily because muh I've gotten fast and stronger. But HOW SHE'S DONE NO TRAINING! If just punching a dummy was enough to improve all your stikes and overall ability everyone would be beast. Literally she hasn't even been practicing how to hit better she's been practicing one specific punch. She only learned how to punch for about 30 mins from mikey but now she's been doing 7ish days of one strike over and over.

Weirder thing is she didn't have a time limit. Like she is apparently free to be in the wrestling world so why give her such a small time limit and no training. An yeah I'd be pissed too imagine being a top 100/GWC fighter and you've trained your whole life for this and some girl from the accountant island beats you after about 8ish days of experience. You got to kys at that point.
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>>146792668
>>146792668
Yeah this exactly, and the weird thing is just do the karate kid bs or boy and the beast. Andy learns moves by watching how Poblana does things. Oh wow look at her foot work when she runs around or she beats up a wild beast etc. So easy to mix in some training even if unintentional to andy, they seemed to have picked some of the worst tropes over the more acceptable ones.

An yeah really andy doesn't even fit the skilled for her age thing as again she's from the accountant island. If she was just another wrestler kid like ko is a hero kid in ok ko, you'd be like oh well it's literally in her genes or something. But she literally comes from a line of non fighters. Also the accountant idea is both good and bad as I'd hate them to do the typical oh you secretly have long lost wrestling genes or some bs. But really her having some anylasis skill like the old man from kengan asura would be kind of cool honestly.
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Maybe if they had given the show twenty episodes upfront, we would have seen that.
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New sneak peek:
https://youtu.be/chq2Ay_6nhY
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>>146795578
You know, that's a good point. I sometimes forget this is being compared to shows with fifty episode first seasons and manga with over a thousand chapters. With the time constraints they've got kept in mind I don't entirely blame them that much.
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>>146795907
I like this shot. Kind of cool seeing the people Andy met along the way coming up to the plate to defend her. Didn't think cactus guy could even lower his arms but I guess when action calls he can. Unfortunately I don't really see this going well for Immaculate and his crew after the fights Andy went through so far and how even back when she first met them they seemed washed up, but I'm glad to see him again.
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>>146795578
Supposedly they made something like that, but similar to other shows they are splitting s1 into 2 parts. So s2 will actually be season 1 part 2
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>>146796297
god, i hate that shit. just make it one season, it's so annoying.
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>>146795907
>Mbrandon stepping in
What a chad
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Reddit AMA from the show creator and cast
https://www.reddit.com/r/animation/comments/1hggr4n/hi_were_juston_gordonmontgomery_sydney_mikayla/
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>>146797864
This could be interesting. First one of these they've done if I remember correctly. And just in time for the season finale it looks like since next week were getting the next two episodes together.
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>>146798179
Any questions you guys want to ask that haven't already been asked in the thread?
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>>146796341
It's weird like they don't trust them but not giving a full season makes it doomed to fail anyway
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>>146796285
Yeah it's nice also to be fair cactus guy is probably a tank he probably did decent in small scale matches. He just really slow but think about it imagine punching a cactus you'll get hurt more than him.
>>146797081
Truly he's the big bro chad, probably sadly means when they start the GWC arc he'll get bodied hard either in his first fight or protecting andy. This will give her a zenkai boost to avenge him
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>>146797864
They need to answer those weird S2 descriptions if S2 is not greenlit yet
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>>146795907
craig is so fucking funny lol
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>>146799241
I wonder if they could even talk about that. There's usually an unwritten or sometimes clear rule about not recognizing leaks and things like that.
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>>146798219
I'd want them to elaborate on why they think Andy is improving so fast. I actually liked the idea of analysis being something accountants are naturally good at, but I don't know if that's something they're going with or not. Maybe throw it out there as a theory and ask their take on it? Besides that maybe asking if there are other islands around that are dedicated to one thing like accountant island was.
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>>146798926
>he'll get bodied hard
Dang it. I hate how shonen that is and because of that how likely it will be. Characters getting blown out by the new threat to show how dangerous it is is a very anime move and something they probably would end up doing. If he's lucky he'll end up tagging up with Andy instead and doing some combo moves, but who knows.
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>>146799455
A fast taking money grubbing trickster was a good addition to Andy's team. He balances out Mikey and Andy well.
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>>146799870
Yep it'll probably be standing hydra or some top 10 female to show off how even though mbrandon is the new gen he's not the mc. It's the typical trope like how kaiba loses to show off how strong characters like pegasus was.

Actually Andy and mbrandon tag team match sounds good. Though that has the same flaw, mbrandon tags in to take the main hit and andy finishes the match and stronger of the two team members. It's sadly hopeless mbrandon is getting pounded, though maybe he'll be the gojo and get to be strong for a while
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>>146800905
That wedgie can't be conducive to wrestling.
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>>146801136
But the tighter it is the less chance she can be grabbed from it.
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>>146795907
>loses one fight
>fucking dies
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>>146801636
At least he didn't abandon his kid like Ruff and Tumble did. Part of me hopes what made his group destitute wasn't actually losing to Andy but that Andy never actually did their taxes so the wrestling IRS took everything they're worth from them.
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>>146800905
I really like the freckles she's got here. They're a cute detail.
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>>146800905
nice
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>>146794882
The guy does seem to be the most obvious choice so I think you may be right.
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You think Bunny 2 has a rivalry with Bunny 1 and the reason she didn't participate was that Bun 1 just wasn't available
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>>146804155
Sounds about right. We've seen a bunch of animal people but those two were the only repeats of a species I think. I hope we see them doing some wrestling eventually.
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Is this show what OK KO was supposed to be?
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>>146805148
Was OK KO this heavily anime inspired?
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>>146805535
Yes
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>>146760872
Neither
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>>146805148
What was OKKO "supposed to be" in your mind?
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>>146805535
It was inspires by both anime and video games, since on the show characters have cards which details their respective power level and stats, keep track of where they currently rank in powers. Like in Anime like Dragon Ball Z (before they became meaningless) they had scouters to scan the character power level to determine if ever they were a threat or not, or in video games where the character level go up after they complete a task/mission, or like in Pokémon games where the more your experience a Pokémon has its level goes up.
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>>146807645
Considering that the episode ended with her running off into the desert and the trio choosing not to pursuit her after her I assume Bertie will be showing up again in a future episode, which could good or very bad since she's basically now a Hulk and also came close to killing Andy.
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>>146760872
This trash the same sound effects of Dragon Ball. You can imagine who are the target audience
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>>146760872
you decide
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>>146807412
So it sounds like this show is more anime inspired exclusively rather than game and anime like OK KO was.
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>>146807356
NTA but OK KO's pilot seemed more obviously campy tone wise and had more action, while the show was more mellowed out and childlike with no edges.
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>>146808180
I feel she'll be less the hulk and more she hulk, able to control her transformation or even fuse it down into more bound boost of strength
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>>146807645
If she's lucky, being an enforcer and muscle for Buffcorp.
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>>146810417
They don't need a enforcer since we can assume the top 100 are the strongest in the world. Besides maybe poblana though she probably unable to fight long.
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>>146811227
Good point. Alright yeah wandering the desert sounds like what she's be up to now. Sad for Bertie.



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