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In case you missed the new issue: https://www.teamfortress.com/tf07_thedayshavewornaway/

To think that the Adminstrator's design started out as a fan portrait that Valve bought. In-lore, she became the ultimate hater
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Lemme check if I can find the flashback Helen pages from the old comics
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Man, what a story...
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Looking back, it must have been shocking for Pauling since this dream was what she thought what the Administrator wanted.
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>>146841143
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>All this so she could rant a few more hours to Zebediah
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>>146841167
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>>146841176
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>>146841204
Also, Engie's the only one in Blu for the whole comic, no?
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>>146841214
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>>146841222
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>>146841214
They used Blue Engie for the Loose Canon comic so he's Blue for narrative consistancy.
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The oldest lore portrait
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>>146841091
ITS HERE
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Reposting my Olivia fanart
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>>146841417
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>>146841417
Forgot the picture like a dumbass
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I was so pleasantly shocked at the reveal.
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>>146841222
You can tell right here that the story of #7 is a massive retcon, but eh, after 7 years I'm just satisfied we get an ending. Would be interesting to see what the original plan was, probably the Abe Lincoln leak from ages ago.
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>>146841091

Did anyone else think Ms. Pauling was the Administrator's daughter/clone?
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>>146841611
Obvious that this was not the original intention but eh what we got can still work with that page.
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>>146841611
Hard to tell. I vaguely remember the original "leak" having something to do with Abraham Lincoln. I wonder if someone has a cap of it.
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>>146841619
A lot of fanlore (trying to overexplain the respawn and the merc lookalikes) pointed to it but it didn't have a lot backing the theory
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>>146841091

Is this gonna be your FOTW /co/?
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>>146841611
Was the original merc pic with Abe Lincoln actually supposed to be a story leak? I thought it was just just a funny little goof that you could kinda' slot into the story otherwise that wouldn't have much to do with things otherwise. Like you could replace Tom Jones with any other sexy crooner from the era and it wouldn't change anything.
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Absolutely boss of her
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>>146841091

Did anyone else notice that Administrator's probably dad is fucking John Wilkes Booth?
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>>146841684
Reaction pic for you guys
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>>146841686
Fuck, I didn't notice that.

>Booth was later killed in a shootout between himself, Bilious Hale and a large group of people, during which Hale sat on his chest as others took turns shooting him; Hale was subsequently awarded Booth's hat tower for his bravery. - wiki
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>Saxton Hale accidentally continued the gravel wars when he retired
lel
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>>146841726
If they completely replace the Announcer with Pauling (which I know they won't for obvious reasons), then it really would just make the whole story come full circle. The fight continues in the exact same way just now with Pauling at the helm of the merc company and the mercs just getting to have fun while being a family.
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>>146841705
That actually makes it pretty brutal, maybe Zepheniah or sent Barnabus's son off to kill him, Billious based on photos and artwork seems a lot more grim than his father or his son. Or idk, timeline is kind of weird on this one.
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>>146841748
I can see any future game using the comic characters as the least bit of fanservice. Zhanna and Pauling would be just as good as hearing Scout and the Heavy sisters cheer the new generation on.

But we won't have that. We have Deadlock instead.
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>>146841695
Geez, even at like 40 she looks so fine
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>>146841767
I still don't like anyone making a deadlock v tf2 thing, both games appeals to completely different types of people, pitting them against each other because of the developers not managing themselves well is a disservice.
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>>146841767

I'd prefer they use those 1800s Gravel Wars characters we saw from the catch up comic
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>>146841767
I'm fine with that. Through its ups and downs, TF2 gave more than any game really had any right to give. It got an ending and deserves to rest.
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>>146841705
Damn wish they mentioned the original Team Fortress. Abe's already a wild one considering TF lore ( both the pyro and the inventor of the rocket jump )
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>>146841777
It's hard not to sometimes. People who don't like Deadlock will point at it as Valve's source of distractions when they could be working on insert legacy title here. It hasn't had a chance to prove itself and it stands in-between Marvel Rivals and fatigue of hero shooters and mobas in general. Personally, I'm surprised we didn't have a Valve BR title outside of Counter Strike GO's shortlived mini mode.
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>>146841774
Lots of 40 ladies look fine. A lot of them tend to let themselves go like army dudes becoming dads.

>this is a sixty year old, single
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Neither Saxton nor Gray Mann taught Olivia much about sex education...
Or how to avoid getting blackmailed...
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>>146841611
no it all still fits into the story. She wasn't talking about australium, she was talking about revenge
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What I'd give for a classic HD revival of the grenadefest that was TFC
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>>146841222
>I even thought I was done once
oh. ohhh
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>>146841843
Suddenly it all makes sense
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>>146841222
fuck, I just noticed her child self was crying
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>>146841816
Valve is usually pretty good about only doing something if they think they have a good idea for it and chasing a trend for the sake of it *cough artifact/underlords* has only backfired on them. Deadlock seems to be popular for now, but give it a little bit of time and we'll see how long that lasts and if they just go back into hibernation.
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>>146841785
Some of them show up in the flashback, TF1800 Heavy is carrying a cart i think
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>>146841204
So weird thinking a lot of the Administrator pages, it's so serious. It's like something that doesn't belong in Team Fortress. God I love the colors in all of them.
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>>146841449
I realize that the specifics are different but big bald dude with a broad chin = heavy. IDK why they designed this dude like this, this could easily have been heavy in a slightly different style than we're used to.
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Who would have thought that of all of Valve's IPs, TF2 was the one to get a finale? Portal 2 too if we're talking Chell. Meanwhile, Left 4 Dead 2's still stuck with a bittersweet cliffhanger like Half-Life.
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>>146841857
The game is losing players, but it is also in a highly volatile alpha state as well that is changing quite a bit.
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>>146841886
For an early access with no current advertising, it's doing well enough. That said, I only got 10 hours out of it before I moved on to my other games.
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Post yours.

Rookie numbers, I know. I'd have more but I was split between it and Dota2
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>>146841915
I also split between tf2 and dota
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>>146841915
Only recently played it within the last month or so because an old friend wanted to pub. Before that, I hadn't touched it in at least 2/3 years, so all this time is from before then.
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>>146841915
500 of these hours are from before MYM. I don't know when the other 100 were put in, feels like I only picked it back up for two weeks.
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Scout: Jeremy Willis
Soldier: Jane Doe (possibly even his government recorded name)
Demoman: Tavish Degroot
Heavy: Mikhail
Engineer: Dell Conagher
Medic: Ludwig
Sniper: Mister Mundy

and Florence Pauling. Spy and Pyro are the only ones without a real name.
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>>146841965
Almost 3.5k, nice. That's the standard for PoE and Warthunder people
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>>146841915
I only have 2 unusuals but both are pretty good
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>>146841091
Wait. Is it finally over? I could swear the last one I read ended with a To Be Concluded.
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>>146841977
In the end... the real Pyro was the friends we made along the way.

I like that the story had no epic final battle, no terrifying boss... just a story about the emptiness and pointlessness of revenge.
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>>146842001


Take a look at this shit and tell me it isn't the end
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>>146842001
Yep. In true Valve fashion, they just shipped it without any prior hype announcement.
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>>146842017
Somewhere, a radical Team Fortress 2 fan would cope and say Valve's just waiting for the Heavy update to release a new issue after this.
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>>146842017
Scout could have totally tried his luck again with the Heavy sisters. Then again, that would have made Misha die inside.
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>>146841417
>>146841446
Very nice work.
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>they retconned the original photo
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>>146840108
Is the team as a whole even retarded though? Yeah, Soldier is a delusional wacko, Pyro is an unpredictable force of nature and Scout is an idiot but others are mostly fine. Sure, Medic is a psycho but he's also a genius so he should be considered valuable thanks to his groundbreaking discoveries and inventions, Engie is a genius too but he also has common sense, Heavy is a (surprisingly) highly educated and reasonable dude (as long as nobody touches his Sasha, Medic and his family), Demo is a completely normal guy when he isn't drunk and Sniper might be a loner and kind of a weirdo but he's a professionable who's able to behave like a normal guy most of the time.
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>>146842093
*professional
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>>146842017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-HdGnzYdFQ
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>>146842093
All-in-all, I think it's a mixed bag of good and bads. Pyro's insane and only talks to Engie, Demo's a drunk liability, and Medic is generally despised for wanting to operate on his teammates. Maybe thematically, they're the guys who didn't make the cut for every other team. That or they're actually the cheapest compared to the others' asking rates.
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>>146842017
Kino. And Engie's missing in most team pages so that one's the apology.
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>>146841322
>>146842079
did they? soldiers got his thumb on the torn part
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>>146842112
>>146842093
The real question remains what war between the ACTUAL top tiers of the TF2verse even looks like, if there are notionally people who make Heavy, Sniper, Soldier, Spy and Pyro look like rank amateurs out there.

I asked myself the same question about what war even looks like in Jason Statham's Transporter movies, because the shit his character does is NOT standard soldier training IRL.
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>>146841417
>>146841446
She is 14
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>>146842127
Thumb height to the two guys beside it says otherwise. But it doesn't matter since at the end of the day, it was all the Administrator.
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>>146842134
Out of 18!
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reposting my doodle from the /v/ sticky(that was reposted in the previous thread)
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Feels good knowing that we were playing the least futuristic, most inefficiently equipped team even though game-wise, they ruined the aesthetic with the crossover weapons and holiday hats.
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>>146841091
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>>146842162
She's not drunk enough. She needs to be blushing.
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>>146842093
When isn’t demo drunk?
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>>146842128
If anything, Scout's the picturesque "amateur" of the group. Sure he does scouting pretty well, but he's also the youngest and has the lowest health. Everyone else is just professional and mental.
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>>146841176
How does he know it's all gone?
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>>146841239
Whas this issue 6?
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>>146842201
he doesn't, but knowing Administrator, she could have been boasting for a long time how much she's been hoarding. The last bit of lore about it was the implied theft of the US cache of australium during the Poopy Joe story.
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>>146842215
Yep, Issue seven's in the OP.
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>>146841830
At least she gets an early start at continuing the Mann bloodline.
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>we finally have canon unmasked Spy
Gotta say, I didn't expect it even if there was a timeskip
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>>146841091

>Scout got to fuck a bunch of women who left him

>Soldier got to fuck Zhana twice

>>>146842249
>>146841091

Damn he's good looking
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>>146842259
>Soldier got to fuck Zhana twice
probably more than that
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>>146842249
I'm just glad they didn't try to expound on Pyro or anything.
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>>146842259
>twice
Oh they did it 24/7
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reminder that the dyke dei woke mafia got to tf2 and now the ideal dream for men according to tf2 is to raise all of your cuck kids on your own and the one true love of your life likes women
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>>146842267
They got the most out of Classic Pyro even if it was voiceline-inaccurate. I'd have wanted more gags with pyrovision but I suppose you can't beat the first issue with that.
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>>146842259
Reminder that Scout's gonna die early according to God. Grandaddy Spy's gonna be raising the lot in their teen years.
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>>146842267
I'm a tiny bit disappointed that we didn't get a scene where they tease Pyro taking off his mask, and it's this big thing where everyone leans in for it and it's a big reveal; and then there's a smaller mask underneath it.
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>>146842272
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>>146842267
Perhaps the best surprises are the ones kept an eternal secret.
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>>146842272
birthing hips well used
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>>146841686
So is the cover (the basic structure of it anyway) a reference to this one for Batman Year One? In keeping with how the other TF comic covers are parodies of famous comic covers
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>>146842312
Yeah. More than that, it also hints that Administrator can't even remember how her parents died.
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Posting an edit from the pinned /v/ thread
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>>146841686
Booth's tower of hats was more varied and wild, her father just seems to be the Gentlemanne of Leisure
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>>146842128
The real issue seems to be handling and professionalism. Yeah, the Teufort gang are terrifying in their pocket, but they tend to leave a lot of collateral damage in their wake and are really bad at focusing on their goals.
Heavy seems like the one most likely to get to the big leagues, but he still suffers from really odious habits and his fixation on guns.
In theory, the top leagues should be fast, efficient, focused, and deadly, instead of just dangerous to be around.
From personal experience dealing with basic training, as well as with a limited understanding of military history, you tend not to be able to get a crew of people who are willing to get shot at without a level of batshit insanity creeping in.
In other words, this is pretty much exactly what you would expect to happen: Nine trained killers with their various brands of dysfunction forming a found family and becoming murderous psychopaths towards anyone that isn't one of them.
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>>146842330
Somehow it fits /tfg/ too
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>>146842330
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>>146841417
>little pubes sticking out
perfection
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>>146842331
is that TFC Medic I see at the side?
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>>146842338
The spotlight. The slow aging per panel. It's so perfect.
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>>146842048
One of Heavy's remaining sisters
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>>146842356
>they didn't get with Sniper

Also weird hairstyle change
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Ew.
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>>146842360
>Also weird hairstyle change
I think it's just the angle making the hair blend in
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>>146842362
>Can't stick my dick in Administrator Dust because it's mixed with Zephaniah Dust
True hell
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>tf2 is catering to the gays and ultra sjw feminists now
its over. it is so over
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>>146842371
Here’s your reply
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>>146841091
Best dad.
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>>146842281
Meds. Now.
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>>146842376
Oh thanks, I've been looking for that.
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>>146842360
>>they didn't get with Sniper
SHE'S TRYING
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>>146842388
Ah that's a good catch.
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Weird to think that after all these years, we finally get a good closure. Even the Half Life fans got one in a way, but at least ours isn't a cliffhanger.
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>>146842388
Ooh, she's bold. The other one will be getting her GILF if she can get Spy away from his grandchildren
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Has /co/ always been a LGBT central location? Is everyone here a train or fag?
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>>146842017
From a oneshot to a loved Doofinshmertz
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>>146842413
Here’s your reply
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Never thought Hale would get the best ending too.
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>>146841091
Makani's gone a long way.
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>>146842093

Sniper throws bottles of piss at people and is generally a super loner serial killer, Heavy is kind of poor and has to support his whole family, Demoman is constantly drunk and will actively charge a gunline with medieval weapons like a true scotsman (i mean he survives and thrives but that makes you look crazy), Issue 5 and 6 show that th TFC crew kind of hate the shit out of Medic because he actively experiments on his teammates and can surgically remove your soul, Engi works for Mann Co, Scout is a sex offending idiot who can barely read, Soldier is a delusional psychotic hobo, Pyro is.. Pyro.

For me i believe Spy either joined because he already knew Scout was his son or because he's kind of lazy and wants to make money while dealing with idiots. Based on the photos on his wall in Expiration Date, Spy comes off as a bit of an adventurer type who liked travelling the world, he probably blows tons of cash on fancy shit and maybe the Gravel Wars pays just enough to support him
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So, the Administrator was Zephinia's sister, right? That's what was implied by Zeph being put in the tiny grave? Am I tweaking?

>>146841686
I had forgotten about the cover by the midpoint of the comic. What the fuck is going on then, was the mystery never solved?

>>146841767
>I can see any future game using the comic characters as the least bit of fanservice.
That one kid from the Christmas comic as the new spy. Soldier's kids as the soldier and demoman (the one with the eyepatch is obviously the demoman)

>>146841726
I immediately caught on to *SOMETHING* being set up when one of his two assistants was literally named REDdy.

>>146842283
>voiceline-inaccurate

Probably huffing in smoke more than any other merc, and a cold hard bitch like no other to survive alongside the much grittier TFC lot. She might genuinely just sound like that. We can't exactly hear her voice in the comic.

>>146842017
The fourth wall break, as sappy as it was, as removed from the game as all of this was, still made me fucking cry.
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>>146842373
I remember there is a model of the anthro tank in the workshop
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>>146842446
really? show me
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>>146842442
>So, the Administrator was Zeph's sister, right? That's what was implied by Zeph being put in the tiny grave? Am I tweaking?
No? I think it was to imply that he wants his two sons fighting to the death as early as their toddler years.
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>>146842388
She's a go-getter
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>>146842442
Bidwell can't do shit to a man with this much focus and willpower
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>>146842425
I get that they were running out of time; but it still feels weird that we didn't get a scene where he confronts Darling and wins her back before the timeskip. Even something as simple as Maggie telling him to prove that he's done with the company and Hale rushes off to kill a Kraken or something.
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>>146842455
>No? I think it was to imply that he wants his two sons fighting to the death as early as their toddler years.
She literally says that out loud to him yeah, but like, Zeph dying happens way after that.

So we still have no motivation for this bitch? She's just evil? The cover seems to imply her family got killed because of something involving the Mann family, but i've seen talks in this thread that make it seem like her beef would be with saxton more than anything.
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>>146842442
Just realized one of Soldier's kids having an eyepatch may be a cute reference to the time he and Demo were best buds.
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>>146842451
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3038967620
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>>146842469
I think it's as simple as "she wanted revenge, ended up fetishizing it as the best thing she's ever experienced". In the final two issues, she's talked about how much she loved it and can't get enough of it. And then a sprinkle of immortality insanity here and there. In a meta sense, it might as well be like how we can't let go of Team Fortress 2.
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>>146842442
She put Zeph in the tiny hole as one final fuck you, denying him the glory of resting with the rest of the Mann 'winners' and relegating him to the forgotten Mann's in the cemetery. His whole life was dedicated towards raising an heir that deserved to be buried in the mausoleum, and in the end, Helen denies him his own spot in it.
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>>146842482
Power is a drug. She was in control as long as she had the Australium.
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>>146842330
why are they crying
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>>146842491
So literally everyone here is a fag or some train?
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>>146842495
The fuck is a train?
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>>146842500
It's a vehicle that usually runs on rails.
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>>146841091
Throwback to the will
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>>146842500
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>>146841125
Im actually kinda shocked how satisfying the ending is.
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>>146842495
I see you're not denying the election tourist thing. For all intents and purposes, yes and the sooner you realise you're wasting every second you spend here, the better.

>>146842506
>Throwback to the will
So whatever she told Senator Grey here was a load of bull, right? You'd think "I'm locking up an eccentric rich old man in perpetual agony over a grudge I barely remember" wouldn't take this long to explain.
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>>146842503
>>146842509
It's a way of saying trans without saying it. Why this retard is saying it like this I don't know.
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>>146842526
No, I'm pretty sure he's scared of transformers.
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>>146842519
Yep because even Florence didn't know and she's always assumed she was evil.
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>>146842530
woooooo
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>>146842506
I wonder what she thought of Grey before he was born into the world. She must have thought this would complicate plans.
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>>146842547
Oh wait never mind, I got the timeline mixed.
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>>146842512
Right?! I've seen so many good things fuck up the ending I'm genuinely still processing how neatly everything wrapped up. Even though I still think out of universe, Valve was building up to something bigger but quietly realised that for whatever reason they just can't bring themselves to do anything new with the game.

>>146842533
My guess is the bluff was something tantamount to the Australium version of nuclear deterrence. Something that threatened MAD enough that nobody else thinks it's worth trying to send in a third party team to shut everything down.

>>146842530
Makes sense, Astrotrain is a big guy.
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>>146842547
I can't decide if Grey is lucky she apparently never thought it necessary to meaningfully factor him into her revenge plans, or if she's lucky (well, luckier apart from the botched suicide thing) that Grey never thought of her as a loose end.
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>>146842459
He never lost her, he just pursued Mann Co. over a life of adventure and she wasn't willing to wait for him. There's multiple scenes of them having conversations and laughing along until he mentions getting back Mann Co. and her face sours.
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>>146842565
Pure luck. In the recent issue, he literally missed all the Australium she had that were covered under a blanket. She probably thought about outsmarting him through and through. Equally smart, equally wicked, and if I remember correctly, Grey wasn't too interested in Australium alone at first because he wanted Mann Co, which he felt was easier.
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Leaving the noose necklace for this scene was a nice touch
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>>146842338
GOD I would fuck HER so BADLY
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>>146842589
Pauline please, she's a dusty old hag!
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>>146842298
God I love these two retards.
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>>146842580
Honestly it seemed like a mutual case of blind luck. Maybe they should've just fucked.

>(obligatory post about ss being kino)
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>>146842519

She probably detailed her whole revenge story, being immortal, all the people she's gotten killed for it, etc. I guess the whole plan would be really fucking weird to some people.
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>>146842458
Reddy should get the company, Bidwell didn’t have the balls to fight for it.
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If Pauling said yes, I wonder what would have happened. The cat's out of the bag.
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>>146842636
What would have happened if Pauling dropped the Australium into the dust pile?
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>>146841674
I genuinely don't care so no
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>>146842643
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>>146842643
nothing, there is nothing to bring back, is just dust.
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>>146842636
She would have gone back to exactly what she was doing. Killed anyone who inconvenienced her.
Helen had nothing left in her heart but hate, and hate was exactly what she wanted to do, if the chance to keep hating for a few more centuries was available to her she'd kill anyone for it.

>>146842643
Nothing, It can't resurrect the dead from dust, just breath life back into a body that still yearns for life
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>>146842636
Let's not kid ourselves. Nothing would change. The Administrator would feed Miss Pauling a crock of shit about how she's totally doing something meaningful here while continuing to use the Australium stock to piss on an old man's grave.
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>>146842658
there has to be a body that is viable for life, in this case, there is nothing
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>>146841915
still a newfagoht
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>>146842664
you got the post quotes mixed up
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>>146842636
I love how her VA also voiced Glados. I keep looking back to Portal 1's ending with this.
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>>146842636
>>146842673
Here's hoping some fans gets her to voice these final panels.
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>>146842673
>"One day they woke me up, so I could live forever"
>"It's such a shame the same will never happen to you"
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>>146842604
>(obligatory post about ss being kino)

By the time Zephaniah died the mann brother's (all born at the same time) were grown men, including Grey. He's not a child in the flashback, he's just a runt.
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>>146842017
THEY KEEP PLAYING SAD SONGS ON THE RADIO

AND I FEEL LIKE I'M SO ALONE ON THIS FIFTEEN HOUR DRIVE
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>>146842690
>Goodbye my only friend
>Oh, did you think I meant you?
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>>146842172
Well, you can think of those hats and weapons as hand-me-downs
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>>146842655
>>146842658
>nothing
What if we melted a few tonnes of Australium in one of those fancy crucible furnaces and mixed the Administrator's AND Mann's dusty remains in with the melted Australium? I'm sure they'd be alright. A little battered, but ultimately okay.
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>>146842710
anon, they are gone, there is not even bones remaining, their entire selves collapsed, they are dead and this time not even australium can bring them back
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>the very first story comic was released in 2010

Time flies by so fast.
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>>146842673
>>146842690
>"It feels so strange not to hate you anymore"
>"But you wouldn't know, would you?"

>"I forgive you for everything"
>"You monster"

Also:
>Glados canonically knows Batman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j370EOXd2RY
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>>146842720
>this time not even australium can bring them back
Bullshit
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>>146842709
>some poor squad got mowed down because the aliens sent the wrong squad their equipment
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>>146842723
I miss 2012 so much
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Since the comic is over, lets discuss the unique style they have for advancing and making panels change or adding new details to them. Specifically, what are your favorite moments created by this method?
For me it's gotta be what comes next in this part.
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>>146842773
From this...
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>>146842784
...to this. And also, Sniper sneaking to the window butt naked
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>>146842773
I'm a simple man. Seeing them hide the visual gags before my eyes could look down and spoil them for me is the best simple gimmick for me.
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>>146839919
I appreciate it.

I finished it. Great read, there were parts I didn’t like, but those were mostly “me” issues with challenging the game’s canon(like the time skip, something I’ve never been a fan of, or apparent end of their employment), from a story perspective, it’s quite satisfying. Still would’ve been nice if Scout and Pauling eventually got together after the kids.

But the game itself doesn’t really have a true canon and does whatever it wants, like Hale trying to retake Mann Co. while Grey Mann has the TF2 mercs try to kill him), so what’s canon is ultimately up to you. I personally am going to believe they kept fighting under Miss Pauling.

Good read, and the cheesy invitation for the viewer to the Smissmas party was perfect. Not sure how I feel about Spy being unmasked though, feel like they should’ve left that out.
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The comic was good overall but I HATE how they characterized engie. If you look at the games and the voice lines in the games, he has as much of a god complex as medic, but in the comics he's just some humble down-to-earth good-old-boy. What happened? Where's the man screaming 'I AM GOD" when ubercharged and putting robber's souls into pumpkins? THIS TEAM HAS TWO MAD SCIENTSITS GODDAMNIT!
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>>146842797
>Not sure how I feel about Spy being unmasked though, feel like they should’ve left that out.
They did justice by not peeking under Pyro's. I think it just matches the consistent closure theme especially since it's obvious how much bias the writers have for Scout compared to certain other mercs.
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>>146841674
God, I hope so.
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>>146842802
The thing is a lot of the mercs here are muted from their Meet The's and their game lines except for Soldier, who was exaggerated compared to his first few comics. It's also apparent that because there were so many characters here, they couldn't find a way to incorporate Engine in without making him a minor character.
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>>146842797
It's a sendoff at least. Valve can't say goodbye officially and neither could the fanbase. This is their best bet unless they truly pull the plug.
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>>146842784
>Ms Pauling using Spy's weapon
I guess that fits
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>>146842797
>Pauling after losing the administrator is lost for a while
>Not having scout chasing her anymore is actually a bigger blow to her than she expected because now she doesn't feel like there is anyone that needs her
>After several years she runs into scout again and in a moment of weakness tries to flirt with him because she needs someone to validate her
>It naturally causes scout to go right back to trying to fuck her and being so desperate for the attention she breaks down and accepts
>She keeps telling herself that Scout's body is slender and feminine so she can just pretend it's a woman
>But scout is God's gift to women after all....
>After the sex Pauling is laying in bed with the biggest "Oh shit, what have I done, I've fucked up so bad" look on her face as she realizes she just let Scout turn her straight, or at least bi.
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>>146842830
>as she realizes she just let Scout turn her straight, or at least bi.
Note to anyone who ever fucks a lesbian do not make these kinds of jokes with her, best to just reassure her you're a special one off
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>>146841091
Only complaint is I initially thought the Administrators revenge would have made more sense if Zeph was respnsible for the death of her child(ren) not her parents, would make her initial plan to target Redmond and Blutarch more of an eye for and eye thing and add a sinister angle to her playing a sort of parent matriarch figure to Pauline and the Mercs. Although I guess that would have conflicted with >>146841222 so I guess the choice is undersandable.
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>>146842835
do lesbians actually date straight dudes. i thought this was against the whole being lesbian thing?
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>>146842892
>do lesbians actually date straight dudes.
No because they're lesbians but sometimes shit happens
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>>146842892
From personal experience, it's a mixed bag from lesbians wanting to experiment to bi's in denial and lesbians who are already friends with a guy they're fond of platonically. I once knew a fruity gay guy who became a dad because he had drunk sex with his bestie who is a woman. They're co-raising the kid as responsibly as they could. At the end of the day, it's mostly just confusion and human sexuality.
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>>146842915
>it's a mixed bag from lesbians wanting to experiment to bi's in denial and lesbians who are already friends with a guy they're fond of platonically
>platonically
the amount of lesbians ive seen who ended up saying theyre bi and marrying some dude friend makes me wonder if lesbian means lesbian
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>>146842921
It's confusing at times. Usually it falls under either sexuality or preference. It's much less of a headache to just assume every gay person is bi. But anyways, we're getting off track. Here's a pic of Miss Pauling's dating ad to compensate.
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>>146842921
I'm still not convinced lesbian and gay isn't just a fetish.
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>>146842931
Every lesbian couple I've seen is completely based on them fucking or some fetish or something related to sex. I'm not saying heterosexual relationships are perfect but those seem to work on some level of mutual understanding and if they have kids, making sure the kids are raised well. Even the gays seem to be able to live like normal people. Lesbians just seem to only be obsessed with sex and only talk about sex openly and I don't know if this is the norm.
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>>146842819
Not like Pyro got to do much either.
Mostly just "there" in the background if you're lucky.
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>>146842939
Being a Pyro fan is suffering. Guess it could have gone one way or the other (that being his identity could have been story or Engie related) but at the end of the day, it didn't matter. I'd still wish for more gags with him.
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>>146842929
It's funny because Soldier's illiterate
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>>146842929
>It's much less of a headache to just assume every gay person is bi
this seems more true of dykes than fags.
>>146842835
>fuck a lesbian
>as a guy
lol. lmao even.
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>>146842929
>>146842915
>>146842909
i have a lesbian friend who i asked out but got shut the fuck down but still flips the fuck out whenever i talk about some other girl or even talk about other chicks. whats going on here? i thought she was one of the dudes.
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>>146842938
I'm gay and I feel like these people make the rest of us look bad
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>>146842939
It always annoys me whenever you have a mute or otherwise communicatively disadvantaged character and they're just completely sidelined and reduced to a background prop. Another example is Kenny from South Park. You can absolutely have fleshed-out characters with arcs with little to no speech. It's just writers being lazy and it makes you wonder why the fuck they made them mute in the first place if they're too lazy to work around that disadvantage.
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>>146842969
Are dykes looked down on by gays?
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>>146842965
She's either a control freak or has abandonment issues.
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>>146842982
why would abandonment or control freak stuff matter if theyre categorically disgusted by any intimate relations with guys?
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>>146842954
>lol. lmao even.
She is a radfem who fantasizes about a Y the last Man type scenario trust me on this one if not for me she would be smashing clams on the reg and if I slip up she'd be back to it
>>146842939
Pyro is hard to write because you have to keep him vague
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>>146842970
I think it's also the fact that they don't want to actually open the can of worms that is Pyro's lore. They can do deep with him but they decided not to and the deepest we've ever gotten of her is the Meet the Pyro video. Though I'll admit they definitely tried avoiding it since even with Engineer, Pyro's just a support character.
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>>146842975
I am very indifferent towards lesbians. I can relate to all men, straight or otherwise, because I'm a man. I can relate to straight or bi women because we both like men. But lesbians are like fucking aliens to me and I want nothing to do with them. Nothing personal.
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>>146842992
Why are you friends with a radfem who explicitly hates you in the first place? I'm not the type of guy to not be friends with someone over their political views, but if their political views are specifically targeting ME, that's pretty incompatible and you're a pushover if you don't have a problem with that. And she's a hypocrite.
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>>146842975
>>146842995
every lesbian ive met has been some angry fuck, perverted, is a fucking cariacture of some butch abuser, or cant hold a conversation like a normal person. either that or they just try to act and turn into a guy and fail miserably because lets be real here. gays blend in a lot better and have better social skills.
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>>146842985
It's a deep issue. Speaking as someone who's had crazies for friends. One specifically, everytime I spoke about another girl, she admitted she felt jealous because of a weird perceived irrelevance despite her being in a relationship. Worst case scenario, you're seen as a back-up friend or something.
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>>146843000
>And she's a hypocrite
Lesbians in a nutshell
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Bit of a shame that Engie got so little screentime compared to the others, but I like when he's advising Pauling to let it go.
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>>146843005
>Speaking as someone who's had crazies for friends. One specifically, everytime I spoke about another girl, she admitted she felt jealous because of a weird perceived irrelevance despite her being in a relationship. Worst case scenario, you're seen as a back-up friend or something.
Did she treat you like shit but you still stayed friends and how jealous did she get?
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>>146842814
>he gave him the smallest desk he could find out of spite
Pure ludo
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reeee
I can't make up my mind whether I should reread it all first or read the thread first and most likely spoil myself.
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>>146843022
read it all first dummy
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>>146843022
I debated the same. Ultimately I went with reading the comic first and I'm glad I did. It's really not that long anyways.
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>>146843001
I don't know many dykes but the few I met were kind of into the same types of girls EDP liked. Disgusting really.
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>>146843016
Yeah I kept her around primarily because I didn't have a lot of friends, but we eventually separated after a few years of drifting apart and we found new friends since then. I can describe her jealousy as possessive, but not really toxic outside of our occasional hang outs since we usually visited shooting ranges and buffets together.
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>>146843014
At least what screen time he got was really good
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>>146843022
Reread. I was lucky enough to have read the whole thing a month ago out of boredom and a lot of the small details still stayed with me.
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>>146843014
>>146843038
Yeah, I'm an Engie player and it's a shame he's just the important lore guy kept to the sidelines. Then again, ever since >>146842819, he was destined to be one for the rest of the story.
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>>146843035
I don't get the possessive part though. Do they do that because they're lonely? The one I know gets really really fucking insane mad on her Twitter not directly to me if I even mention chatting up another girl.
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>>146843038
I'd ask for more. For every comic they released, he hardly got the spotlight he deserved. Okay, he did get a good spotlight in the Expiration Date short, but that was it.
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>>146843019
It's the same desk she had when she was six; Hal just never bothered to give her a new one as she aged. He set up a trust for her and maybe adopted her(?), I don't think he hates her.
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>>146843045
Possessive as in "don't talk about other attractive friends while we're hanging" unless it's ranting about officemates, which I presumed she wasn't exactly happy with her romantic relationship and just wanted my platonic company. If your crazy ass friend is how you describe her, my condolences. Better to cut her loose or keep her at a pole's length. Mine was just insecure with shared backstory between us, but not nearly as miserable to be with.
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>>146843049
Bidwell would have liked to have adopted her, probably. It would have been funny too if she ended up making him her butler and the dynamics he had with Saxton continued with Olivia.
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>>146843065
>bidwell uses his butlering for oliva as a claim to why he deserves mannco more than reddy
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>>146843065
She'd kick his ass. She'd kick everyone's ass.
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>>146843072
The cycle continues.
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>>146843065
>Bidwell adopted her on Hale's behalf; he found out a week later when she was sleeping in his guest room.
>He lets her stay as long as she agrees to let him run the company, which is okay with her because she hates running the company.
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>>146843047
I main Medic so I feel the same way
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>>146843098
I just realized Hale never really had a color to begin with apart from his brown pants. Not a hint of green either.
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>>146843063
She's a really good friend but I'm starting to feel like being around her is rotting my soul. She's never happy and just talks down to me all the time. Part of me wishes I never met her but every time I show some sign I want to move on, she keeps sticking on. I don't get it.
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>>146843103
Medic got a great arc with the devil and Team Fortress Classic though. You guys were lucky.
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Posting a cute Ms. Pauling video to celebrate.
https://youtu.be/vmBMO9BXoxw?si=a-DgLP7aSxZPsiZS
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>>146843104
He's not a Mann. He's a Hale. Although I did just realize that Olivia is olive, so she's still fitting the convention.
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>>146843108
>Part of me wishes I never met her but every time I show some sign I want to move on, she keeps sticking on. I don't get it.
Oh anon, that's control freak 101 for you. My narcisist sibling did that to me before I dropped her ass. If you don't have a heart to heart, you'll just keep second-guessing and being miserable. Talk to her as a friend if she ridicules your qualms, she's not really taking you seriously and therefore, not worth your time.
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>>146843115
My absolute fave. Workaholics with glasses gets me everytime, it hurts.
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>>146843113
idk man
I'm still salty Medic doesn't have any domination lines
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How many threads did we have before this? I keep seeing that the comic released twelve hours ago but I just saw the /v/ sticky maybe eight hours prior.
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>The comic is telling us to move on
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>>146843143
I think this is only the second /co/ thread
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>>146842388
>Sniper's probably the forever virgin now.
Also how the fuck is he greying already when he's barely in his 40s.
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>>146842547
I missed that their mother was a Darling. Did that come up aside from this card?
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>>146843188
Nothing, not even a reference from Charles Darling.
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>>146842938
>>146842931
I think its just harder to be a Lesbian than gay.
There must be a cock.
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>>146843193
>filename
o no
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>>146842814
But anon she's a minor
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>>146843187
People can gray early if they're stressed.
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>>146843047
>>146842819

Personally i imagine he would have had a solution to a bunch of the problems the mercs would face, like a teleporter (australium powered but it probably needs only a sliver)
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>>146843187
I'm guessing Snipin's not a good job after all.
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>the final issue came out before Silksong
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>>146843228
>parents died (but got closure in heaven)
>lives alone
>buddies with Spy somewhat
>final pages, get hit on by hot russian lady
Bittersweet run but he's getting back on track
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>>146843218
Zepheniah's third son must've burned out early, he's been a Gray Mann since he was a baby.
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>>146843235
his mom is still in the australium rocket in space
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>>146843129
Amen brudda
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>>146843239
He literally invented a new form of algebra while in his mother's womb. He's that much of a geezer.
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>>146842338
>GILF until her literal dying moment
Fucking wew lad
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>>146843243
> >>146841167 - "the last bit of australium on earth"

>there's still a rocket in space full of the shit

Now that's a loose end I completely forgot about
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>>146842338
Overwatch could never
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>11 days till 2025
>TF2
Eugh, people still care about this shitty, tired meme game?
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>>146842338
One gilf won
Another gilf won harder
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>>146843187
Have you seen the guy's lifestyle?
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I'm overall satisfied with the ending and I'm glad the shitty ass greentext leak (whether it was from a genuine source or not) did not happen. My only complain is the lack of panels and lines from every merc that wasn't Soldier, Scout, Spy or Heavy, bit weird that characters like Merasmus, Saxton and Olivia (I know the last two were plot relevant but still) got much more focus than half of the main cast.
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>>146841091
La Grande Madre.....
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>>146841322
I want more lore of gray mann, and silas mann.
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>>146843312
Well yeah, it was disappointing that Pyro, Sniper, Medic, and Engie got pushed to the side. At least Merasmus is considered a legacy villain in-game by Halloween standards, but still- seven years waiting and all.
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>>146843265
>full of the shit
painted on the hull not full
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>>146842570
No, I get that; I'm just saying that it's weird that after she just exits the story because he's still obsessed with the company, we never really get an answer as to why he stops being obsessed with it. It's just glossed over in the timeskip. He ruined his relationship with Mags over the company and then he just wakes up one day and goes 'actually, I've always hated this company, I'm just going to quit.' There needs to be a catalyst.
And sure, you could argue that Olivia was that catalyst, but like, c'mon. That can't be the first time he's had that conversation.

>>146843323
I love that Merasmus just forced his way into the story by sheer stubbornness. He just keeps coming back, no matter how little sense it makes, he's like a human running joke.
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>>146843312
Heavy and Medic didn't kiss, shit ending.
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>>146841214
>It's not just for me
NOW WE KNOW
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>>146843333
First off, nice quads.

Hale's been shown to be stubborn as hell and the only thing that could match that is boredom. But I think the con has more to do with squeezing as much in the already late comic as possible. Whatever we felt was seen too little in the comiic, we can only hope some fan art can make the most out of it.
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>>146842267
They probably already did, you just didn't realize.
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>>146843333
he embodies Team Fortress 2. He keeps dying, he keeps coming back, and he hangs around like a ghost even after taking a beating.
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>>146843353
I totally agree; it is just an issue of them running out of time, ironically. There's only so much space in the story and the Hale plotline is the B-plot. It's gonna get cut. But it would have been nice to have Hale really question why he's even sticking with the company, why he's gone so far to become the CEO again, when his real love is for adventure. It's unsatisfying to have him just up and leave one day without hitting that grand revelation.
It is the entire focus of his plotline.
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All the kinda' loose ends and dangling plotlines are basically summed up by "there was a 7 year time skip" and, if you want to be meta about it, that 7 years is the time that people are still going to keep playing TF2 even now. But it seems pretty clear that Valve is saying that they're done with TF2 with the comic and they're giving people plenty of wiggle room in the middle to still have some fun with, but they wrote the best damn ending they really could and thanked everyone along the way. Honestly seems like the best of both worlds.
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>>146843187
My dad was nearly totally grey by the time he was 35.
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>>146843404
I'm sorry your mom was such a hassle anon.
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>>146841881
It was to be a joke that made the scout look like he made solid progress on his gains, stupid.
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>>146843501
I'm just lucky THAT part of his genetics isn't quite so strong in me. Not even thirty yet but I'm getting grey flecks in my flanks, and that's still better than dad having them in high school.
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I've never felt this comic series was anything but random writing and vague coopts of memes or attempts at forcing screencappable memes.
Zero plot. Just random stuff. Random lore that means nothing.
>American Soldier? Nah, Canadian, also he's impregnated a Russian
>Ozzie Snipa? Nah, Kiwi
>there's a limited amount of Australium until we just state there's a cave that the Soldier has never been living in has always been living in
>the Medic has a deal with the devil or something, who cares
It's a shame this was tied to TF2 which has a solid series of animated shorts that put most modern, professional productions to shame, even if the good people had clearly left by the time of Meet the Pyro and Le Bread Teleportation.

I'm glad it's over.


>>146841785
>>146841839
>TFcomic back then: all the mercs are men, just like in the game, just with minor race swapping
>>146842172
>TFcomic now: women
The statue and various portraits the mercs were looking at were more Overwatch than TF2. Dumb.
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>>146843878
>Soldier
>Canadian
????????
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I am 100% sure the daughter spy gave his mask as a gift is Scout and Pauline's daughter because it took a year after the entire lawsuit and she free from her administrator obsession and insane "love" to admit that she loves scout like the expiration date but she was too married to the administrator's shit that only after she died she learned what family and love is from the Mercs and Scout.
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>>146843187
Probably due to blood loss, I know a guy who started greying before he was even 20 because of that
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>>146842287
Wasn't that date a joke/reference about some song that was topping the charts at that specific date?
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>>146843917
It was just a dumb pop reference after all
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You think the VAs will ever act out at least parts of this? I really want them to be officially involved again
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>>146843955
I'm sure they will, considering how much fun they have doing other TF2 skits. Although, they will need to find someone else to read Soldier's lines...
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>>146843215
out of ten!
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>>146842388
My headcanon is that they are together, but Sniper is just not a PDA kind of guy. He was the one who went with Heavy to save Soldier, so he’s still clearly in touch with him.
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>>146841091
Wait what? IT FINALLY FINISHED?!
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>>146843187
He died. He got better but it still takes a lot out of a man.
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>>146843982
That is Nolan North since he learned how to imitate Rick May's voice and also voiced Engineer
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>>146841446
>smut of the 14 year old instead of Helen, the grown ass woman

/co/ never ceases to amaze me.
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>>146841785
>John Henry Heavy
>Fu Manchu Spy
>Union War Vet Soldier
>Crazed Gold Miner Demoman

You guys have no idea how badly I want this game.
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>>146841915
>>146841924
>>146841965
>>146841971
I'm an addict, aren't I?
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>>146844210
Anon, there are people on /v/ and /vg/ saying they preferred her literal child version.
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>>146844210
Don't act surprised.
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I don't even remember half the story that came before this and my heart still has that little painful pang in it when I arrived at the last pages. Damn.
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>>146843187
Who said he was in his 40s? He's only a few years older than Scout.
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>>146844254
>>146844284
I'm not surprised, I just wanna see MILF/GILF smut of Helen/Administrator. I've fucked a woman like her before and I'm still chasing that high, you anons are missing out.
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>>146843323
Pyro, Medic, and Sniper already got their big moments in the comic series though. What we really needed is more Engie, but we already read so much about Radigan so it makes sense the final issue focused on wrapping up the Administrator's and Saxton's story
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>>146842780
Oh yeah, that was awesome.
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>>146843295
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>>146843014
>>146843047
I mean, He _is_ a support class
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>>146844292
That makes it even worse.
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>>146844308
Oh there is
It was actually posted before the Olivia images too
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>>146842797
>>146842830
I like to imagine a bittersweet and/or happy reunion where years after everything, Pauling and Scout meet for coffee or something and talk about their lives.

Pauling has gone around the world, doing the most random things like she was doing for the administrator but doing it because she wants to. Boxing, diving, you name it.

Scout talks about how proud he is of his family, and how the team comes to visit every so often. Soldier's kids are friends of his and come over practically every week, and Spy is there more often then not. Scout chuckles and remarks that it feels like Spy is watching over him more then he's watching the kids.

At some point in the conversation, Pauling brings up the time he "moved on" and ask if he finally found that special girl.

>"You know Miss Pauling, I've seen and slept with a lotta woman these last few years. And I think you did your math wrong. I ain't found a woman more beautiful then you yet.

Now that the comics are over and they're both technically single its literally all up to headcanon.
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>>146843187
I started going grey from stress in my late teens, dude.
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>>146842723
Is Batman a Combine collaborator, or just useless?
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Why did the have to ruin it by making the ending woke
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I unironically love how miserable, bitter and hate filled the Administrator was. She was just savoring that Domination she had on Zepheniah the whole time.
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>>146841977
Spy burnt his name well before the gravel wars and Pyro probably can't remember it.
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>>146844511
Even though she wasn't at the dinner at the end, I feel like Scout and Pauling (as well as the other mercs) will still see each other often.

The contract voice clips show she hangs out with all of them outside of work, I don't see why that would change.
https://youtu.be/09VnRev8XgA?si=Wg3ZOebsRnlpJ-lk
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>>146844251
noob lol
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>>146844575
She stopped by to bring a turkey, dunno why she wasn't in the initial picture.

But yeah, as good as ending as anyone could realistically want for the crew.
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>>146844511
People kind of glazed over the fact that parents legally on the hook for child support are also obliged to pay for major holidays and birthdays. I don't think Scout being a prolific dad and having his holiday funded by Miss Pauling was some sort of coincidence.
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Scout having a bunch of babymamas and happily raising his kids is a full-circle thing for him. YES obviously he's gods gift to women and too stupid to pull out, but remember he had 7 brothers and a deadbeat dad, with a mother forced to raise all her kids on her own. While he's arguably in a similar position to her, he didn't abandon his offpsring like his dad did.
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>>146842281
Anon Jeremy is gods gift to women of course he keeps getting with different women
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>>146842172
Huh, just realized one of the circle on the rocks is missing. On the bottom area, they have the metal holder, but nothing in it. I wonder what that means
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>>146844670
What letter comes after E, anon?
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>>146844613
>Some point after the comics, Scout and Pauling have that coffee talk
>Hot coffee ensues, and bam, Pauling is pregnant
>Pauling is in no way ready for a relationship or a kid, as she's trying to clean up the remnants of the administrators work, so Scout says he'll be happy to add another munchkin to the group. (At this point his kids kinda learned to expect Scout to bring home a new sibling everything he leaves).
>Scout now raises their kid while Pauling does her thing around the world, bur comes back every so often. She pays child support and makes sure Scout is actually taking care of himself.
>Everytime she has an argument with spy, he brings out the deadbeat mother card.
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>>146842993
>Pyro's just a support character.
no she’s not, she’s in attack with scout and soldier
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>>146844666
>>146844664
I'm picturing a Fry-like funeral or get together, where every single baby mama returns to talk while he's dead.
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>>146843231
we got the final tf2 comic before gta 6
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>>146844613
>pauling is the only one who isnt a deadbeat
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>>146844474
SAUCE? Awoooga
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>>146842310
I just realized one of his kids is a cyclops, just like his best bud
>>146844682
I get that, but why is it missing?
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>>146842970
At least Snake-Eyes got like a solid couple of decades being the main character of GI Joe.
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>>146841091
>TF2s comic finally comes to an end.
>Actual, factual proof that Half Life 3 is coming.
Truly the world is going to end before we get the latter.
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>>146844726
Team Fortress got shut down some time during the comics (I don't remember why), that's why Pauling had to go around and gather them, it probably has to do with that
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>>146844686
Oh shit you're right.
Good end.
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I'm bitter. Valve has abandoned this game for 7 years now, ignored a horrible bot issue, never gave us the heavy update, and the sappy sentimental ending tells me that it's over; not just the comics but tf2 as a whole. They're 'sending it off'. No heavy update, no final update of any kind, like the final pages with saxton this game is gonna wither away until eventually it dies an uncerimonious death.

The fandom is still alive, it's still going strong, WE annoyed valve until they did something about the bots (they didnt really fix it at all but we all pretend it's better now), and this comic ending specifically how it did feels like they're trying to get us to leave at this point, they want us to move on to something else and let the game die. :(
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>>146844825
They got rid of the bots
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>>146844825
Every update for the past few years has been Valve gathering community maps and cosmetics and dropping them into the game. Plus what is there to add at this point? TF2 Classic tried to give Heavy a new minigun and it was badly received.
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>>146841091
I don't even remember. Was it ever acknowledged who the BLU Team was in the comic? Just clones of the RED Team like in the game or just unseen, vague mercs?
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>>146844535
Sars/Ma'am, the overwatch comic thread is in the other aisle
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>>146844825
what did you expect from the comic ending? more open-ended "glad that's over, back to the front, guys!" ending?
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Meh I don't know why people like this shit so much it's just lol so random nonsense. Overwatch has an actual story and plot. Things happen for a reason there not just because lol it just did
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>>146844917
Most of the content Overwatch releases isn't even canon.
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>>146844535
Scout being a single dad for four kids is the least bit woke thing to ever be written.
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>>146844926
Cope
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>>146842425
>his fate is to fight an endless horde of cheetahs
>because that's what TF2 has become
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>>146844926
Aren't the games non-canon as well?
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>>146844985
Women abandoning their kids is a liberal woke idea you retard
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>>146842921
most of humanity is bi with heavy preference to one side and it's a matter of circumstance when do you discover you might have a small percentage of liking the other side
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>>146845006
>>146844926
Overwatch has good writers writing a consistent story where stuff happens for an actual reason
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>>146842975
Despite their combined branding and annual parades, LGBT is actual a very loose conglomation of different groups only united by not being straight.
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>>146845032
Such as?
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>>146842921
Bisexual women are straights in denial and lesbians fucking hate them which is why dyke domestic violence rates are sky high.
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>>146845006
It's hard to find anything Overwatch related that is actually canon.
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>>146845013
And they're being raised by their loving stupid Father who has loads of money and is athletic as fuck.
Lets pretend he doesn't die 8 years from now.
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>>146844917
>Overwatch has an actual story and plot
ANYTIME NOW
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>>146845064
They are saving it for overwatch 3. The ideas they were gonna use for 2 they pushed back to 3 because they can actually count to 3 unlike some companies
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>>146842182
shes getting there slowly
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>>146842338
All Time Woman
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>Be, me.
>2013. Junior year.
>Buddy in STEM class introduces me to steam, to TF2.
>We play after school, and during school in the Comp Labs during lunch, and during class when we've finished our assignments.
>Biggest TF2 fan I ever knew. Dressed up as Pyro for Halloween party at school, but sent home for looking too scary.
>We got on to separate colleges after high school but still play together.
>I was never good but never needed to be. I was either medic to his pyro, or double pyro, or rocket+pyro. It was all we needed. All we wanted.
>2020 rolled around.
>He told me he can't come on steam, he's sick with "something ugly". Should be back in a week.
>He never came back on.
>I found his mother on Facebook. He died. Covid with his already weather immune system ruined him.
>He never saw the comic end.
This is... Bittersweet.
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>>146844987
You lost
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>>146844687
>she
Go back
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>>146845076
>Implying there'll be an Overwatch 3
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>>146842281
>cuck kids
They’re his kids, retard. Raising your own kids makes you a cuck now? Is that why your father left you, because he didn’t want to be a cuck? Fatherless faggot
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>>146845214
Pretty based how comic 7 showed how awful all the women were.
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>scout is god's gift to women because he is rich and a single dad
all he needs is a dog
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>>146842272
>Filename
Kek
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>>146842388
Just for clarity, it’s the one taking the photograph who likes Sniper. Her sister holding the mistletoe is just trying to help out by giving her a window to kiss rather than creepshotting him.
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>>146842294
>It's thanksgiving 1986.
>Pyro is the one cooking.
>You only see hints of him in the kitchen. Gloves. Boots.
>It switched to Pyros point of view, where he's taking out the turkey, one last dash of lemon and salt, he sets everything up, takes it all out, everyone's smiling and waving on Pyro.
>He goes to set up the camera. They tell him to get in on this, and bam.
>He didn't set the camera right and all you see is everyone but his face.
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>>146843878
>The statue and various portraits the mercs were looking at were more Overwatch than TF2. Dumb.
anon that
that's the joke
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>>146842172
>Team Fortress: Future
Gimmie..
Gimmiegkmmiegimmoegimmies LET ME BE RUSSIAN ROBOT HEAVY DAMNIT
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>>146843312
Yeah, I know it’s a big cast but it’s weird for a finale that some did literally nothing in it. Did Demoman even get a single line?
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I'm glad Spy ended up being an actually decent guy in the end and is involved in Jeremy's life
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>comic asks the question of whether or not sticking to something for 17 years - I mean over a century is worth it solely out of spite
>Administrator looks directly at the camera and says "Yes"
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>>146843146
and THIS is why I'm so bitter!

>>146844905
YES
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>>146845368
Then why aren't I laughing?
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>>146844308
Holy shit, a anon lost his virginity
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I don't even play tf2 but I know a bunch about it because of just browsing here, /v/, gmod vids, etc. I kinda forgot all the covers were homage parodies and yesterday I happened across Batman Year One Issue 1 and bought it. Today it just clicked that comic 7 is a parody of that cover. Weird how things happen in sync like that.
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>>146842494
Because it's been so so long. All the war, the pointless of it all. A waste of time and revenge.

And it's finally over for the both of them.
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>>146841977
scout took his wifes' last names, as evidenced by his mailbox, but yes as of the '7 years later' section that is his legal name.

Also, how interesting is it that the last thing we see of Saxton isn't '7 years later', but MODERN DAY. I wonder if they're planning on making a TF3 set in the modern day?
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>>146842995
>I can't relate tobpeople with different tastes
I want to call you a faggot even though I know that you are a genuine faggot
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>>146842442
no i believe Zephiniah was involved in the death of her parents, somehow. Presumably for business reasons.
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>>146842017
I didn't keep up with this comic - Pyro's mask is on the table, so was Pyro confirmed to be a woman? Which one of them is it?
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Who drew all the teen Olivia art and where can i find the sauce or more or is the olivia art in the thread already what we have
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>>146846166
You can see his hands too. He's just kneeling by the table and resting his head/hands on it like a dog.
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>>146846090
Based off of the cover, in my opinion, not too far off. Her parents might have been killed via his weapons, so dedicated herself to taking him down and destroying his munitions empire.
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>>146846270
I was thinking more like "you won't sell me that land? Then I'll buy it from your corpse."
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>>146845899
Because you have a terrible sense of humor
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>>146842797
Continuing off this

>Wait seven years for the comic to release
>Timeskip is seven years

I refuse to believe this isn’t on purpose. I adore that Soldier and Zhanna stuck together and had kids, plus their names are fantastic. I was worried they would split after Soldier finds out she’s not American, but thankfully Soldier probably realized colonizing foreign territory is the most American thing of all.
Not sure how I feel about Scout being a dad, but I do like they showed he’s actually a pretty great one. He did always seem like a guy that would be a cool older brother. Still kind of a shame he never got together with Miss Pauling, or give Miss Pauling any sort of life outside of work. Still don’t really like they unmasked Spy, but really glad Pyro is still a complete mystery.

>>146844511
I’m going to choose to believe this, thank you.

>>146844905
I recognize this is a great ending, and this is a personal issue on my part, but yeah, pretty much what I wanted.

>>146839962
It’s because of his love for suprise buttsecks
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>>146846363
Didn’t he get unmasked by the classic sniper right before he was going to kill him? Or am I misremembering.
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>>146846363
Here I meat to reply to >>146840108 at the end there, in response to why Spy isn’t on a different team.

>>146846397
Misremembered.
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>>146846270
The covers imply
>Killed via his weapons or possibly by men in his employ
>Worked to death due to unsafe experimental
>Something with Ice
I like the reading that she remembers the broad strokes not the particulars, all she knows is dead a parents, Zebidiah, and rage.
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>>146845161
You got to enjoy it for him Anon, tell him about it at the end.
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>>146845076
To be fair Valve did start episode 3 back after episode 2. They had about 6 months in the game, enough to build some of the basic systems and start testing the new weapons and concepts. They took a break for L4D and by time they came back they didn't feel they were going in the right direction anymore so it got shelved, first just for a few months and then indefinitely.

And of course now they're working on HL3 for real... it's just a question if they'll release this one or bury it again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpw2ebhTSKs
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>>146845161
Now I'm sad
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>>146842310
Wew lad.
She's on my list of "God, I wanna fuck this woman's brains out, but her husband is that nigga, and I could never ruin their relationship".
Right next to Big Barda and Jessica Rabbit.
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>>146846941
I'd be more worried about her brother than her husband desu
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All I can say is
>no gay shit
Based.
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>>146847032
No one would be upset if they made Heavy and Medic kiss though.
But yeah, no gay shit is based.
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>>146843187
>>146844292
>>146844464
Wait... Sniper was supposed to be in his early thirties in the games this whole time? I always thought he was supposed to be middle-aged! Why the fuck is Spy beefing with someone his son's age?!
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>>146842425
This was honestly the coolest way they could've ended the comic. Something about that last line is genuinely so impactful.
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>>146847089
Wonder how the shippers coped.
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>>146842093
One of the things I was reminded of re-reading the old comics after all this time was that Medic literally lobotomized Demo to keep him from asking for his eye back.
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>>146846066
Don't pretend like you don't have your own biases. You prefer hanging out with people of your own gender, your own race, etc. That's just how the human brain is programmed. We all have some tribalism in us (some more than others).
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i want to take this opportunity to ask for female versions of all the male characters
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>>146847192
it's already been done
https://www.drewwolf.com/tf2alt/
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>>146842017
warm colors, character design of each character makes them all stand out, dynamic poses, shading guides the eyes towards the center making the characters stand out even more

>>146837646
cold colors and same ones used for the administrator's panels like >>146842122
, character design generic screaming of "I just learned anatomy", stiff poses with the characters literally just standing, no shading gives nowhere to look

If you are an artist or want to be one learn to not be like overwatch
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>>146847192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNxindOiBgM
Here's your FemPyro bro
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>>146841611
wdym? everything fits, she even says she was craving it since she was a little girl, so it's not autralium, but revenge, and it's only revealed in 7, and in the previous page she says "it's not just for me" presumably talking about Zeph Mann
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>>146847274
I can get off to this.
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>>146847358
Fag
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>>146847028
Mikhail would probably rather ANYONE be married to Zhanna than Soldier, so I doubt he'd get too overprotective. And knowing Jane, I could probably convince him AND Zhanna that me marathon jackhammering her Siberian ки́ca would help stop Communism from invading US soil. The point is that I wouldn't want to do that, because they're a perfect match.
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>>146845571
But she's portrayed as being in the wrong isn't she. The comic is basically telling people thanks for playing but it's over now.
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>>146847402
Wonder how things would had went if Scout shut his mouth and banged Zhanna instead.
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>>146847476
Zhanna would've still sniffed out Soldier's superior might and left Scout for him.

You know, assuming with how incredibly fucking strong Heavy's family is, that Zhanna would not have literally snu-snu'd Scout into a coma first.
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>>146847513
Nah. Remember, Scout is literally God's gift to women. Zhanna just didn't give him a chance enough to realize it.
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>>146847476
Scouts pelvis shatters 2 minutes in and Zhanna ends up running into CHADdier anyway
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>>146841785
>The pyro invented rocket jumping
Is this why Pyros of later lines were nerfed?
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>>146847181
>Don't pretend like you don't have your own biases
I don't pretend that I lack them, but mine aren't just "hang out with people that share my preferences or are my preference"
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Maybe i'm retarded, but didn't administrator fail in her revenge? Like Gray Mann existed, killed his brothers, and had a daughter Olivia.
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>>146847586
Zhanna is not a woman, dude. She's like Woman PREMIUM. She makes other women look like little girls. Only a Soldier-tier lead-poisoned schizo could possibly survive that.
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>>146847665
That doesn't matter to her, she kept Zephenia alive and made him watch us retards attempting to fight for 100 years or so.
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>>146845050
It's a shame he dies while his oldest kids are 13(7+8) but that's what the other mercs are for.
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Would a theoretical TF3 work in a 80s/90s setting?
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>>146847665
Like, again, maybe i'm retarded and forgot older comics, but she knew about gray, what he is capable of, but didn't even try to fuck him over (aside from Blutarch and Redmond business that was happening anyway)
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I really liked the comic
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>>146847802
Why would she care about Grey?
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I just read it all. It was worth the weight.
it's going to haunt me forever not knowing WHY helen wanted revenge
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>>146847851
>it's going to haunt me forever not knowing WHY helen wanted revenge
Why? They didn't even bother, so why should you?
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>>146847860
You have to hate people in a special way to do what Helen did. I need to know what that special way was.
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>>146847851
Headcanon that she was his cousin
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>>146846941
Russian woman be built like that.
I know.
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>>146843243
Not the mom that mattered
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>>146847665
He doesnt know that
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>>146844240
>Enter TEAM FORTRESS : Zero
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>>146847843
he is a "champion" son that killed all of his siblings and took over, what the father wanted to happen in the first place.
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>>146847890
We got the basics of it. He killed her parents for whatever reason, she just cannot remember the exact method of death or why they were killed. Just that he was involved.
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>>146847963
Does said Father know that happened though, or does he die thinking his two idiot sons never broke the stalemate
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>>146847963
And? All she cared about was that he was responsible, in one way or another, for her parent's death if the cover(s) are anything to go by.
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>>146848021
Father doesn't know, or shouldn't, but SHE knows.
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>>146848060
>but SHE knows.
And?
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>>146841830
Arthur, have you returned to us
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>>146842017
So all this time Pyro was a handsome bastard?
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>>146848434
that's sniper, pyro is below medic
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>>146848434
No, that's Sniper. Pyro's being sneaky in the pic gasmask on the table
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>>146847670
Scout nearly tapped this but decided to tap AMERICAN asses instead.
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>>146847513
>>146847476
Going with the idea Zhanna isn't just imprinting on soldier and is legitimately as crazy as him, Scout slowly has a "What have I gotten myself into" realization. By the end she falls in love with Soldier through platonic friendship. And dumps Scout to his relief, however Soldier says if this is going to happen she must be fought over fair and square. Through contrivance Soldier and Zhanna end up fighting eachother for the right to be together as Scout slinks away with a sigh of relief.
>>146847963
To be fair she also destroyed him and his "heir" was as scheme adopted, co-opted by the enemy, and eventually relinquished the company entirely.
Zeb's legacy is in utter shambles whether he knows it or not. But ultimately he still spent nearly a century and a half in a state of undeath with Admin gloating at how hard she's cucking him.
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>>146848000
The reveal really makes me wonder what kind of wild things they'll do for the next Half-Life game. I think past Half Life Alyx's release, they talked about almost giving the story a time travelling revenge plot about stopping the crystal from reaching Gordon but thought it was too edgy so they scrapped it.
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>>146847954
What I'd do for a game about that.
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>>146848434
Why is being Sniper suffering
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>>146848485
>Soldier and Zhanna end up fighting eachother
Is it weird that I genuinely want to see them have a no-holds-barred all-out brawl until one of them is bloodied and battered on the ground underneath the other one?

And then they fuck?
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>>146847890
The secret to seething hatred is to actually dedicate your whole life, your whole existence to it. Like, no backup plans if that hatred suddenly disappears (sudden death, disappearance), it's gotta be obsessive to a point where actually performing the coup de grace would be detrimental; an orgasm you can never get out of anything ever again.
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>>146848530
That's what makes it hot. Playfighting before fucking is just as good as hatefucking after an argument, except you're wrestling with smiles. And with wide muscular bodies on both sides, there's plenty to grab on to.
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>>146848515
>Loses adoptive parents
>Becomes a psycho brooding in the dark and having no qualms killing his former co-workers
>gets betrayed by real parents
>gets divine intervention and eventually becomes bros with his co-workers again
Man just needed people to talk to after grieving
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>>146848558
See, you get it.
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>>146848580
>Becomes a psycho brooding in the dark and having no qualms killing his former co-workers
I mean, that's kinda who he was before, anon.
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>>146848609
>"have a plan to kill everyone you meet"
Yeah you're right, how could I forget
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>>146844210
To be fair, /co/ is one of the most lolicons, and anti-lolicons boards on this godforsaken website...And that is pretty funny.
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>>146841915
There is only one metric that matters
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>>146842773
>we are going to have an endless supply of free kids to
They were going to do horrible shit to those children, weren't they?
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>>146841915
Started in May of 2012, only just recently got back into the game this month
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>>146848741
It's the most outsider-friendly board with traffic, and I mean that in a nice way. Sadly, it also attracts your usual crazy /pol/ tourists but that's to be expected.
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>>146848777
Yeah, it was a good gaybait joke. Sadly, it was also the only time we see Pyro do anything interesting in the later issues.
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The ending didnt really feel very Team Fortress esque to me personally but I guess everyone has a different perspective on what that means exactly.
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>>146848754
Man I only got level 1 out of autism.
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>>146848835
Having an ending isn't team fortressy to begin with. As far as the setting goes, the seven-issue run literally started as an epilogue to every merc being fired from their job.
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>>146842814
>valve made a 14 year old cute girl become an alcoholic on screen

how based is this company?
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>>146844598
>She stopped by to bring a turkey
She bought it and either shipped it to them or just paid in advance so one of them could pick it up.
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>>146848504
Is it
>Abe Lincoln - pyro
>Tesla - medic
>Davy Crockett - sniper
>Butch Cassidy - scout
>Fu Machu - spy
>John Henry - engineer/heavy?
>??? - demoman
>Tom Sawyer - soldier
>Doc Holiday - medic
I'm not American, I know cowboy stuff from playing Bang so I'm probably wrong with most of these
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>>146846941
>God, I wanna fuck this woman's brains out, but her husband is that nigga, and I could never ruin their relationship".
Seras victoria
Actually, now that I think about it, most of the waifus I like are in committed relationships...
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>>146849002
Wait actually Tesla should be the engineer and John Henry as the Heavy
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>>146849002
Demo's apparently Alfred Nobel, inventor of the dynamite. Scout could either be Butch Cass or Billy the Kid.
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>>146849002
There's a clearer picture -> >>146841785
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>>146849002
>>146849047
Tesla as Medic actually would have been pretty funny considering the pigeon/dove connection.
>>146849081
I'm pretty sure Scout was Billy the Kid, yeah.
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>>146849081
I guess it makes sense but Alfred Nobel and didn't have the same kinda beard. Time wise it works fine though.
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>>146849002
>Stonewall Soldier and John Henry Heavy
Pretty funny that it's an extension of the pseudo rivalry between Soldier and Heavy.
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>>146849198
ah, was looking at the wiki seeing Stonewall Jackson, but no actual confirmation on who Soldier really is.
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>>146841839
Man, TFC Pyro went from fit to a fatass granny lol
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>>146849239
Engie didn't exactly age gracefully either.
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>>146849275
True, also the fatass granny bit was a compliment on my end. Im a bit of a freak
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>>146849239
And god bless her for that.
>>146849376
Based. Bet it gets steamy in that suit.
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>>146842048
>>146849239
>all these aged babes and all the threads get are Olivia drawfags
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>>146849439
Yeah wtf. Drawfags serving out verjuice while we yearn for wine.
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>>146849439
>>146849517
Might be a rare moment when Twitter artfags are actually useful. Trust the process.
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>>146849439
i wanna draw them all
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Thread's finally going down. God, it feels good to go down memory lane these past few TF threads.
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>>146849550
It's been real, anon.
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>>146849532
Make it cute Olivia instead of hag Olivia and you have my interest.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ZafWA2jd8

Time to rewatch the trailers for comfort.
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>>146849532
Olivia really really needs a gun.
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So the conclusion is that Elizabeth/Administrator had this everlasting hateboner for Zepheniah and even if she forgot the actual reason behind it she decided to:
- making sure red and blue feud will stuck forever
- she decided to resurrect zepheniah just to torment him more
- And the whole deal with Gray Mann, was just "an obstacle" in Elizabeth?

At the end she regret nothing. She enjoyed this hateboner all the time.
One question though... Given she would still have australium. What was her plan since red and blue were killed? Feels like the main source of Zeph misery (i.e. lack of successor) was no more.
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>>146849687
Her goal was simply prolonging Zeph's suffering. She doesn't care of the OG mercs weren't there to keep the fight because there's TF Industries - plenty of mercs at her disposal if she puppeteers it. The longer she and Zeph both lived, the longer she gets to enjoy him watch as he lives past his expiration date. Much like how we, the players, enjoy watching TF2 live in spite of having lived past Valve's interests
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Does Olivia have a danbooru tag?
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>>146845137
Perfect.
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Man the TFC Mercs where honestly done dirty by their Asshole Heavy and his power hungry greed. You can tell there used to be some close comradery between all of them that was eroded away.
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>>146842017
T-thank you Scout... Soldier... En-Engineer... *starts crying* thank you team fortress twos...
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>>146849741
None that i can find, i also don't have a gold account so 7 or 8 pictures was hidden from me.
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>>146849807
Weird to look back and see that these guys were probably more tight knit than our mercs.
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>>146849873
Our mercs are a dysfunctional family, but they're OUR dysfunctional family, anon! Pls understand!
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>>146849873
Yeah thiking about it, them all probably being WW2 vets and a team during it has probably books worth of untold stories about them as characters
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>>146849873
What I'd give for a Team Fortress cinematic abot these guys.
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>>146849939
WW1, the TFC merc are the 1930s >>146841839
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>>146844240
>Union war vet
that was Stonewall Jackson

>>146849002
>Abe
Pyro
>Tesla
Engineer
>Davy Crockett
Sniper
>Billy the Kid
Scout
>Fu Manchu
Spy
>John Henry Irons
Heavy Weapons Guy
>Alfred motherfucking Nobel
Demoman he invented dynamite irl
>Stonewall Jackson
Soldier
>Medic
Sigmond Freud

This is the OG team on Tf2 official wiki
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I didn't read the thread, but.
About that retconned picture, like i heard it was supposed to be Gray Mann there.
That picture was taken when Zepheniah was still alive, right?
And when Gray Mann ressurected her (which was after Zepheniah died) he looked like a kid, right?
So it could be that the only thing they retconned was his height./

UPD reread the issue, he wasn't a kid, just a tad bit shorter than administrator. And like they retconned when administrator got that white hair streak. So forget about it.
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>>146850084
I doubt that was Grey, i don't think Zepheniah learned that Grey was alive until after his first death. Also Grey's introduction states that he is small even if he was newly born. I don't think that picture got retconned either, wasn't it just Team Vanguard becoming Team Ajax that was a retcon?
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>>146850077
>invented dynamite
Yes the whole impetus of founding the Peace Prize was he felt guilty that his invention was used for violence so he founded a ceremony to celebrate inventions and movements used for peace.
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>>146849275
Was this Engi's dad?
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>>146841091
I blame these fuckers for making me sexually attracted to the Administrator.
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They may have been the lowest of all teams, but in the end they outlasted all other five and beat TFC when the others couldn't because they had one thing none of the other teams had
They were all batshit crazy
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>>146850337
That's what the wiki says, yeah.
>>146850388
Why don't you be grateful instead, dummy?
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>>146841839
Given that they are literally introduced in the comics as "Team Fortress Classic" I think we could say that they were literally the original Team Fortress who were either fired or too good at their jobs to keep working for Helen.
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>>146847670
She's looking right at it in that third panel
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>>146850337
No, Engie's dad also knew how to maintain the immortality machines.
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>>146850412
Engineers dad is Radigan Conahger
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>>146850418
As she should. With envy.

Or lust.
>>146850432
>picrel
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>>146850147
Man, i like stumbled on this on wiki while talking on tg.
>He also left Elizabeth the "miracle gravel" cache that he discovered on a trip to "Terra Australis". According to him, Gray had resurfaced the year before and wanted to blackmail him for it, so he entrusted Elizabeth with it, to keep it secret and safe.
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Storyline

About retconned picture. Original torn picture had a tall mysterious figure in it. Soldier could hide him under his finger but that mysterious figure sure got really small.
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>>146842338
>for hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee
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>>146848454
pyro is *taking* the pic
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Interesting
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>>146842376
The fact that this is more or less true to canon is nice.
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>>146850562
Damn, that's a really interesting read.
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>>146842710
>What if we melted a few tonnes of Australium in one of those fancy crucible furnaces and mixed the Administrator's AND Mann's dusty remains in with the melted Australium? I'm sure they'd be alright. A little battered, but ultimately okay.
buddy that's how you create a kaiju
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>>146850562
Ten pages too late, but it's nice to know that this was always the intended ending
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>>146850635
Hale is already on his way.
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>>146842636
A few more centuries of kick the can. Then came to the same ending as here. Even a loser simp like Pauling can see that.
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>>146842965
Women are territorial. They're hard-wired that way. Being gay doesn't really change that part of her grey meat.



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