Eddie Brock is better than Peter, Miles, Gwen, Ben, Kaine, and whoever the fuck else. He is the best.
Anne is still dead.
>>146877856No he isn't.
>>146877878Good. All the more angst Eddie should have as an edgy anti-hero that he should be but isn't represented as in current convoluted books>>146877940He absolutely is. He has something they don't, real internal conflict.
>>146877856symbiotes are lame
>>146877856Eddie's problem isn't the other spider characters. It's the other symbiote characters. Marvel has no idea what they're doing with them and keeps swapping them around trying to keep people interested.
>>146877856It’s because Eddie has the Venom rap by Eminem. That is one of of my favorite rap songs of all time.
>>146878004That's because even though you're an 80s-00s kid you default to "my dads comics" from the 60s as the only good one, aka a true dweeb
Howw many million symbiote guys are there?
>>146877940Well, his hair is better.
>>146878272Too many. Including the one guy who was 5 guys.
>>146877856Kisses babies.Saves innocent lives.Doesn't make deals with devils.Is the hero we need.
>>146878272Lets see, Venom CarnageLife Foundation, that's fiveThen Toxin and SleeperThose are the ones who really count, others are fusions, gimmicks, or not real symbiotes
>>146878272https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Symbiotes#Representatives
>>146878342>Kisses babiesPEDOnom...
>>146878342My HERO!!!
>>146878623T. Baby chucking Carnage
>>146878636
>>146878004
>>146879102Why is everyone who hates Venom like this?
>>146877856BASED.
>>146878636>If Spidey had been alone here, the baby would've ended up as dead as GwenWhy does Peter suck at saving people from falling?
>>146878342Don't forget he is a good father
>>146877856eddie looked so good with long hair
>>146879709so true
>>146879881so cute ;-;
>>146879892
>>146877993Shut up faggot
>>146877856No
>>146880247best marvel couple imho
>>146878636>peter fucking missed
>>146877856Looks like the human Beast
>>146878774>Peter deliberately went for the neck snap
>>146877856Based
>>146881515Shut up tranny
>>146881515Shut up faggot
>>146877856Real
>>146878520Most of the Life Foundatation ones didn't even have names.
>>146877856he would make for a better spider-man
>>146879102>>146879194This will never be a thing. Pathetic edgefags.
>>146877993>internal conflict.You don't even know what that means.
>>146877993truth nuke
>>146883219Cute.
>>146881950Riot, Phage, Lasher, Agony, and Scream. I think Scream was the only one who had a name for a while but they've all been given names now.
>>146877856I want Eddie to rawdog my ass (yes I'm gay)
>>146887207
>>146878774>>146878636fuck i miss comic books
>>146884474It already is a thing, I've known the mentality of the Venom hater since the 90s among comic geeks.>HES NOT CLASSIC!>HES EDGY THATS BAD!>HORROR LOOKING STUFF HAS NO PLACE IN COMICS, BEAKERS AND LABCOATS ONLYYYYY
>>146879652I don't get why the baby didn't get neck snapped.
>>146887556That's dumb. Spider-Man had a bunch of horror flavored guys. Lizard, Green Goblin, Morbius, Man-Wolf.
>>146887361I wonder if the phallic silhouette was deliberate.
>>146880429real
>>146887756Yeah but you know how geeks are
>>146888351Is the joke that he's a boy version of Carol Danvers?
>>146878774Kek
>>146881950>>146886872They got names from the 90s toyline IIRC, but yeah Scream was the only one who ever had a part in future stories, in their debut they were basically just a plot device for Venom
>>146888597the others fused into Hybrid for a while. I liked him.
>>146887207understandable
thots on this eddie?
>>146877993>real internal conflictKaine by Yost does
>>146889966he had a good relationship with the symbiote
>>146889966I still can't not see him as Eric Forman from That 70's Show, even almost 20 years later.
>>146877940SPWP
>>146888206cute
>>146889966>>146892970>May I suggest the teachings of the jedi?>And may I suggest the footing of your ass?>>146877993I dunno I think you could do angsty Eddie with Anne still around. Kind of like a Hulk and Red Harpy situation with her figuring out how to be She-Venom again. Maybe them fighting over Dylan would make for some kino scenes blending action and soap opera stuff that Spider-Man media is known for, just edgier.Though if you don't like Anne that much just think of this,Anne Weying?More like Manne Geying which is what Eddie is doing to his symbiote each night. Guess that's why they call it the hunger.
>>146894354Gay
>>146894499is it?
>>146889966I think he likes being bad, it makes him happy
>>146877856Truth
>>146894381I don't have anything against Anne but her being dead doesn't bother me. I just hated the way they did it in the comics, I remember that was like my first "wtf" moment as a kid reading comics because I didn't understand the choice or behind the scenes agendas of comics
>>146892915on what?
My favorite Eddie is the movie Eddie
>>146896920which movie
>>146896996the new one
>>146896920Have it YOUR own way!
Only Venom is so rad
>>146884489What conflict does Peter TRULY have besides his autistic obsession with responsibility? Brock has a lot more inner demons because he's not a bad guy but clearly mentally ill
>>146898234>What internal conflict does he have outside of his internal conflict
>>146898438Petes conflict is dumb though and revolves around the character having an unrealistic obsession, much like Batman. It's fine for the sake of the characters and what they represent, but Eddie is a lot more realistic.Like, at some point Peter should/would say fuck it, give up his life to use his powers for more practical means, or just become a real vigilante who solves problems for good, etc, so would Bruce. It's why tards can't stop asking "why doesn't Batman just ____ the Jonker" all day, it's not realistic or normal. Eddie isn't normal, but he's a pretty realistic example, when written well, of a dude who's actually confused about morality and his place in the world.
>>146898536Venom has a lot of backstory that doesn't add up to anything. I would have written him off as someone with false memories who doesn't know who he is because the Symbiont Influence
>>146898572Like what? I feel like that's mostly modern stuff, but modern comics can't help but make everything convoluted as hell.Like, did Eddies birth kill his mom or was that a thought the symbiote planted in him? Ider anymore, all the new comics make shit sooooo convoluted all the time. But at his core I think Eddie works as just a guy with mental issues who isn't totally evil like a Norman but clearly has dark desires and impulses, revenge hungry, etc, and the power he has obviously allows him to take that path while struggling with whether he's a good person or not. To me that's Venom done well, similar to Wolverine but crazier.
>>146898604I like non-linear storytelling. And the symbiote is perfect for that, although the Eddie movie is my favorite version of the character, comics need to do more to explore this side of him. Eddie wouldn't be totally himself but THEM. It would also be interesting to deal with sexuality since I believe that symbiotes don't have genders and it would have messed with him. But it's also risky because people would bitch because it's “WOKE”.
>>146898647Well that depends on what school of thought you come from, I tend to like the more old school approach to the symbiote being a more animalistic, but mentally communicating being, which would make any sexuality seem.....quite odd, though was addressed before in the sense of the symbiote being involved in his sex life with the Beck love interest that lasted brieflyIn the 00s-onward, symbiote is usually portrayed as like more of a full fledged individual, basically just a person unto itself like in the movie even if not as often vocal
>>146877856I fucking hate that they made Eddie ascend to literal god hood and became an entire different character nowWhy can't he stay as some retarded anti hero with screwed up moral compass? The symbiotes don't even need fucking host anymore, they just fucking walk around all willy nilly
>>146898787My favorite retcon is that Flash Thompson, who was irrelevant for most of Spider Man's history, was actually abused as a child and later became an abuser himself because of it. We got so little of the character early on that they started inventing things way out there to fill in the gaps
>>146898835Flash is my favourite Venom I wish Betty never wrote a duplicate of his dad's note though, those ideas always work a lot better when they never truly know. Flash works the best as being that step up from being neighbourhood level and not hitting that ridiculous galaxy level they seem to be pushing him into.
>>146897800sex
>>146889966they should have kept the animatronic
>>146901502Sick
>>146888351Mummy Moon Knight is ridiculous & part of why I hate the MCU version.
>>146898835>>146900076As much as I personally think Knull is a dumb fun addition, it's better to just ignore everything about Venom in the comics from after the GotG shit. Fucking Bendis. It always goes back to Bendis.
>>146877856People might seethe at this but yes, he actually progressed in life
Is Venom sticky? Or could Venom read a book without damaging it?
>>146903023To touch? Maybe slightly? But I don't think Venom's touch is any more damaging than Spider-man's to objects.
>>146903023If he was like that then he'd be sticking to the ground all the time and leaving bits behind in that case or when he web swings. Best to just say he can control it at will.>>146898536That's why modern Spider-Man doesn't work. He goes out and seeks it when at this point he should age, realize that he can't keep doing it as much anymore and finally start balancing his two lives. JMS's run really was that final hurrah and extension of the previous history of the character where he figured it all out. >>146898647>>146898728I'd like if that was a slow transition the symbiote had. I need to sit down and read all of Venom chronologically to get a better idea but if they had clear moments where the symbiote is becoming more cognizant rather than animalistic that'd be cool as an arc for it. I'm guessing it was just an abrupt change right? From one writer to the next?If I wrote a series, I'd have it so that an emo girl like the one fron Watamote happens across a symbiote that starts out as animalistic. Then that stuff concerning personal image and sex stuff would be more interesting. Have it set in the 2000's with all that stuff of body image being even more exaggerated and also no phones being a good way to justify some events. Eddie being in a bad place during that time but trying to mentor this girl would be cool and she could help him with his mental issues. Kinda similar to Andi but I assume her stuff mostly concerned being a rebel and her relationship with Flash. Gotta read all that too. Maybe I'm wrong and it's all derivative of Flash's run.
The fact there's no venom game to this day is still astounding to me
>>146903535insomniac is working on one
>>146903535Prototype is the best you got.
>>146877856Bring back nineties Venom.
Hey /co/, what of you think of Knull? I personally hate him and thinks he makes symbiotes actively worse as a concept.
>>146903983It was a mistake from the very beginning to start dwelling on the comic shit with venom
>>146903983I don't hate Knull as a concept but the execution of the cosmic King in Black shit they've done after is just too much. It's like Spider-verse all over again with the totems. Just taking a simple idea that works & overcomplicating it.
>>146877856He's not real anon, you can't suck his cock.
>>146903983He was course correction for what Bendis tried to do to the symbiotes. If you think they're bad now, they would've been much worse under Bendis as peace-loving Green Lantern knock-offs.
>>146877856Does Venom have a good rogues' gallery, though? THAT'S what will determine if he's truly the best capeshit has to offer
>>146905136yes
>>146903983acceptable losses.he's cringe but it's less cringe than the bendis version. preferrably adaptions would do neither but it's all "klyntar" and "knull" now thanks to sony-man 2 and the third venom movie
>>146905136its kinda weak and uneven since he has basically Jobbers or omnipotent cosmic threats with no in-between. but it's not nothing.
venom
>>146905136A lot of the unique enemies he's faced are some of the most extremely 90s, it's kinda funny
>>146877856fuck it, have my venom takes>eddie+black symbiote should be the only time they go by venom>everyone else when wearing the black symbiote shouldn't be called venom>only eddie should be extra big and monstrous when with a symbiote >the black symbiote constantly wanting to go back to peter is lame and overused but I'm fine with it wanting to go back to eddie if on another person >the symbiotes themselves shouldn't be able to talk and only share emotions/images to their host if they deem to communicate with them>only venom/black symbiote should have the spider logo >exception being any other symbiote a spiderman ends up wearing >fine with them being aliens >if you have to do knull then don't make him a generic metal album cover warrior in black armor at least>best idea I got is knull is the original symbiote and his host is an entire planet he hangs out on and spits out baby symbiotes from time to time>no desire to end the multiverse or whatever and just exists and is a problem in the same way a natural disaster is from time to time >maybe likes to wander the galaxy just because or find new planets to spit baby symbiotes at before moving on>don't care for them always having a universe conquering desire to them and more just want them to be intelligent animalistic beings hunting for their preferred perfect host to fully bond/meld to>can still stick with the plot of too many symbiotes in one place/planet can cause a lot of problems
>>146908500A lot of these make sense, but seem hard to deal with for branding issues. However, only Eddie should be extra big though seems strange. He worked out like crazy to get swole, but is still a normal human by Marvel standards. Any other huge guy should be as big paired with the Symbiote.
>>146889966Topher played the loser Eddie Brock perfectly and I'd said his Venom wasn't that bad but that pic you posted, I HATE the fucking fangs and the naked shoulders, worst of all, when Peter pulls him out of the symbiote, he is not naked, Raimi YOU'RE A HACK
>>146877856sexo con venomsexo con screamsexo con agony
>>146908695the key word is "extra big and monstrous" but if a large character gets the symbiote then they should stay large, but not like double in size like eddie/venom does in many versions
best venom game coming through
>>146908735tbf raimi has been very clear about not knowing much about venom prior to making spiderman 3
>>146908735>>146908799I don't hate it as an alternate take on Eddie. He's not big enough to be THE Venom and he's more of a dweeb, but he still had the bitterness down
>>146908854he almost had a more faithful appearance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmM7Z_JbgN8>>146908735>when Peter pulls him out of the symbiote, he is not nakedin the original cut eddie ended as a skeleton in the symbiote
>>146908791the origin of my desire for venom to grab me with his tentacles and eat me
Hot take: his very first design back in Issue 300, almost human-like, was his best.
