What would you do if you only had one more day?
Oh boy, here we go.
>>147008068This is how it happened. This is how Peter Parker died.
>>147008068The damage this did to the Spider-Man brand cannot be understated.I'm not sure if this or IHF Volume 2 #7 Is worse.
I can't, the pain is too great.
Christ, this art's fucking disgusting.
>>147008068>What would you do if you only had one more day?Destroy my computer completely and utterly.
>>147008068One day more till revolution!We will nip it in the bud!We'll be ready for these schoolboysThey will wet themselves with bloOwait wrong day
>>147009007You should have told Doom he'd get to style on Richards, that would be enough to get his 500kg(of whichonly 1/5 are steel) lazy ass off the throne
>>147008111Christ, JMS was a rockstar before this shit. I feel like he was a sacrificial lamb thrown on a pyre for this.
>>147008810Parading Aunt May like that is so fucked up.>>147009523ENTER
>>147009524>>147008111Like, Christ, I'm a legit oldfag. You guys have no idea what a huge fucking deal Rising Stars was in the comic scene. JMS was untouchable as a writer. Between that, his Real Ghostbusters shit, and being the mind behind Babylon 5, he was a titan of the 90s. And then this shit happened.
>Reed Richard's>Dr Strange>Dr Doom>all can't heal a bullet wound Bullllllllshit
>>147009556Oh nvm i thought it was mephisto, not some unrelated loli
>>147009907I remember this guy, he seemed like JMS' mouthpiece insulting the dumbass editorial.
>>147009933is that 4chan but with the Halloween theme???
>>147010008This was the other page where JMS was very clearly telling editorial this was a dumb fucking idea, you can feel his disdain for Marvel's insistence on bachelor Peter.
the consistency of faces and angles are abysmal
>>147010048Oh Hi Wanda!
>>147009825fuck off kid
>>147008589So, I'm sorry, how does helping a completely innocent elderly crime victim count as aiding a criminal?
>>147010131In Quesada's world, anything is possible.
>>147010149OK then but what about you, are you spidey if he became a speedrunner?
>>147008810Imagine if you actually had an elderly relative about to die, as a Spider-Man fan, and you had to read through this shit. I think it'd turn my fucking stomach.
>I wish mephisto took it up the ass 24/7there i fixed one more day
>>147010230With that femspideybod I wish I was the one giving it to her
>>147010239I can't believe in a world of super heroes that someone with such powers wouldn't just punch out the devil.
>>147010413couldn't they just write a memo telling their future selves to remake their marriage?
The put this trash out right after Spider-man 3 came out and broke a billion.
>>147008197Spiderman has been crap since 1994
I hope one day someone retcons this awful story in the most petty and outlandish way posisble.
>>147010761Mephisto turns out to be a random comics editor named Bo Lasagna who forced it because he's an incel and didn't like Peter being happily married. Peter beats the shit out of him until he undoes it.
>>147010761If somehow in the future I become ASM's writer, this would be the first thing I would do>>147010784Yes people love meta plots. This would be spider-man's animal man. Actually, it's very feasible, lol
>>147010856The great thing about being a prince of Hell is not taking away random kids, but doing it on the most reviled event in the comicbook world for everyone to see!
>>147010866FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKI DID NOT ATTACH THE PICWAS THIS YOUR DIAB)LIC PLANNOW MY SHITPOST IS RUINEDRUINNNNNNNEEEDDNJDJCNn bkijsc(pic relates)
>>147010876>I can't let my 90 year old aunt die!>Sacrificing my unborn daughter to the devil, however...
>>147008068Thanks OPIt's just as terrible as I remember it
>>147010892>Mephisto (marvel editors collective) is so powerful that he can ruin funpostingSomeone stop this menace!
>>147010898>talked to God, GOD, before doing this>Marvel's saint unironically doing a deal with the devil This is beyond retarded
>>147009186I feel like this is almost some kind of Tindalos reference but I can't be sure, and if it is it's imperfectly done.
>>147008511And this is before they hired Ramos!
>>147011023What were they thinking
>>147009491You know, all things considered this could have at least been a good message on processing grief and guilt and dealing with the death of a loved one.Instead it became... What it did.
>>147010996The impression I get is a lot of writers know this direction is shit but can't do anything because editorial loyal to Quesada is too insistent on keeping it intact
>>147009385Hahahahaha
>>147011207Oh hey, I'm in one of the letter pages of this story. No, I'm not proud of it either
>>147010149>This is how incel parker was born
>>147008440Peter evolving to gain organic webbing was cool, fuck the haters, and fuck Marvel editorial for taking that away too in this astronomically retarded retcon.
>>147011207You know what the worst thing is? I remember reading some of the comics leading up to this, with Pete back in the black suit and him and MJ being partners in crime together properly. It actually legitimately made me love the pairing. They really are cute together. And then...
>>147010263I'm sure Ghost Rider would love to give it a try.
>>147010387>I want to make you miserable>By giving you the green light to form a harem of spider-bitches guilt-free
>>147011252https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGBhQbmPwH8
>>147010876Why include this at all? It's bad enough he's making a deal with the devil, why make Spider-man's choice go from a selfish wish to outright evil by having him kill his own kid?
>>147010607The most infuriating thing about this all is that the very premise of them not remembering it means none of it fucking matters.
god i fucking hate joe quesada
>>147011147>because editorial loyal to Quesada is too insistent on keeping it intactBut I still dot understand this. I don't read many comics, specially DC ones. But obviously Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man are culturally the biggest superheroes. He's arguably the biggest one right now. But I don't hear Supes and Bats fans constantly screaming about how their comics nowadays suck sooo much. But Spider-Man fans have being doing this for the last two or three decades. So why won't they listen? Ultimate is doing very good because it shows a married, mature Peter who isn't a childless manchild. Of course we want this, but why won't they do it permanently in 616? Spider-Girl was the obvious route. Someone from Marvel recently said that they ordered that Peter and MJ could be together, but not married. It's so dumb. We will soon get issue #1000, and there's nothing prepared. It will happen during Kelly's new run. He sucks, JRJR sucks. We're getting nothing, nothing good for one of the biggest comic's milestones. It will also be one of the most controversial nothingburgers. Or maybe it will be acclaimed in a very cheap and normalfag way because they'll awfully use Miles and/or multiverse crap or something like that, something that mouth breathers like. And this could be a good opportunity to finally unite Peter and MJ, and eventually marry them. But of course they won't. How could they? She's still with Paul, and Peter is with Shay. And they're doubling down on it. Jesus Christ, why, why, why? Are Supes and Bats happily married, with cool and sexy wives? Marvel, what's wrong with you?
>>147010790So the comic book ending is ain’t mays spirit coming in here to slap the shit out of peter for even thinking of doing this>>147011151The Faustian ending is this is aunt mays funeral after dying of natural causes
>uh the devil just shows up and resets the status quo for Spider-Man, the endHow do you even come up with something so random like that? The crab people in South Park was a less lazy and retarded twist than this.>>147011179Ah yes, praise from Bendis, Feige and Millar, the beacons of quality, that's how you know you've got a quality product in your hands.
>>147010806So basically the people who wrote this spat in the eye of God himself and got away with it. That's literally what they're saying here.
>>147011179It's funny to see all this praise for JMS in a story he didn't want to do
>>147011459>Ugh, Kirby? Man, he wasn't that good, lolMarvel, wtf
>>147011487seeing those webs with that art style is weird
>>147011420Hypocritical manchildren worked their way up to the top and made sure that only like-minded hypocritical manchildren could take their place when the time came for them to step down.
>>147011220It's a good piece, TBF.
>>147011431>Paddy wagonPete no, that's racist! You know so many redheads, why would you impugn the irish?
>>147009556Cunny...
>>147011561Fucking birds.
>>147011603>>147011627I'm mad already. I mean I already was but this is like watching someone about to run a red light, like you see the gears in their head turning.
>>147011443To be fair I think they're celebrating JMS for his run on Spider-Man and not specifically for OMD
>>147011716Yeah but what would you give your legs for flash?
>>147011735wow i fucking hate this
>>147011179The revisionism in this story is disgusting,
>>147011735>This place Di told me about, next time you're in LondonOops, showing your age a bit too much there.Also this is some of the most egregious character assassination I've ever seen.
>>147011252>Marvel Comics proudly presentsDo they really have to take pride in this?
>>147011671It's actually incredible that they had the gall to handle it this way.>Let's basically reprint the original story, but then add in random bits here and there to justify why the whole thing is a waste of time
>>147011791That's the sad thing. They genuinely believe they did Spidey a great service with this and that everyone involved should be proud of themselves.
>>147011836That's the damned thing of it all, it's not framed as a way to get peter's identity back under wraps, which is what it functionally is actually supposed to be doing. The primary focus is nuking the marriage in the most mean-spirited way possible, literally helping the devil beat god. And he just... does. He wins.
It's a miracle the marriage lasted this long. They wanted to get rid of it already in the clone saga, either by saying Ben was the real Peter or by having MJ disappear completely in a random explosion.
>>147011875One of their ideas was to have the MJ Peter married be a clone as a means to undo it.
Well, I'm sure something this emotionally impactful will have long-lasting effects on the characters-... Oh, they won't know it ever happened? They retroactively deleted their future daughter and they won't even remember it? Well... Yeah I guess technically that's tragic, but... Oh, you mean he'll get a bunch of other girlfriends down the road, including another spider-themed superhero with horny spider pheromones?... O-Okay.
>>147011343Sounds awful, every Spider-Woman in 616 sucks. How dire are things when Jessica Drew is the most functional of the bunch?
>>147008068Checking in for, How bad could it possibly be?
>>147011179>My favorite JMS Spidey moment also happens to be my favorite Spidey moment period: Aunt May discovers Peter's secret. It has become my mission to put that moment up on screen. Someday we will. I promise.>Kevin Feigehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=FgoRz47x-JM
>>147011956What fucking good is your spidey sense if you can't dodge a cinderblock you dumbass?
It's so hilarious that even newer readers don't like Peter being single. It's the editorial stuck living in the past regurgitating the same stories they liked reading as the audience. Peter of the late 70s being a bachelor running around as a freelance photographer, missing his college studies and fighting crime. Modern Peter doesn't even do photographing anymore, he just skirts around his life falling apart by being Spider-Man.
>>147011995>And so Peter broke his neck and died.>The end.
I seem to remember someone telling me once that something after OMD mitigated its damage somewhat, but I don't recall how, and I doubt it anyway.
>>147011942You fool
>>147011982>Any actual conversation between them happens off screenSo fucking retarded
How does Michelinie feel about his story being being cut up and mangled to fit the exact opposite storyline he and Shooter put together?
Thanks I fucking hate it
>>147012126Wow they managed to copy my reaction perfectly.
>>147012017Had a feeling this was the direction it was gonna take. What a cop out.
>>147012062It did not.
Why not just normal Divorce?Why need to use THE FUCKING SATAN?
Fat pig MJ is almost as disturbing as OMD itself.
>>147008197>IHF Volume 2 #7Which is that?
>>147012244Just tell people you got hit by a fucking car you jackass
I wondered, back when Quesada did variants for DC after leaving Marvel, just a few years back; how popular is he now? The impression I got was that he was popular back in the 90s but nowadays it feels like most people seem to think of him as the guy who wrecked Spider-Man
>>147008589It's kind of odd how much of an absolute cunt Iron Man was so shortly before the film came out.
>>147008810This is such a wild cover.
>>147012213Divorce is for lame old farts. Satanic pacts are for cool young dudes.
>>147011992I think OP should also post the Spider-Manifesto pages, too. It's hilarious looking at that in light of everything they've fucked up since OMD because all of what they're doing still adheres to thinking from there, despite any denials Slott has
>>147012380Found out slott and Ken penders have worked together.Explains a lot, wouldn’t you think
>>147009007>>147009728Putting the Mephisto and marriage shit aside for a second, I can't tell what I hate more about the basic premise of this story:>the idea that a mature, married Peter is so completely and childishly incapable of accepting that his aunt will dieOr>the idea that not a SINGLE superperson on the entire planet, magical or otherwise, is able to do anything at all for an old woman who got shot (and the comic actually goes out of its way to show Spider-Man asking everyone on the planet)Both are fucking stupid and it's all just in service of this crummy storyline.
>>147009776>he doesn't know
Wow, Spider-man fans had it rough.
>>147011420Part of it is loyalty to Quesada, other part of it is pride. Notice how Brevoort kept insisting DC made a mistake restoring Lois and Clark's marriage and constantly getting into arguments with people over the Spider-marriage
>>147010413This whole deal is still just fucking crazy
>>147012457Not as rought as Ant-ManOr Iron Man pre MCU
So, Marvel still not eat up their own mistake, and admit this the whole thing is nistake?
What happened to Quesada anyway?
>>147012570He left a few years ago. That was the plan from Disney once Feige took over all of Marvel, not just the movies. Since then I think he took some kind of job at Amazon and also did like a variant cover or two for DC.
>>147008589"I'll let you walk away" he stutters in a faltering voice having been soundly and completely beaten
>>147012285i mean, for Marvel editor, rich white man = villainThat's why they make him absolutely a cunt in CW
>>147009385"I don't even know why I'm here Victor, I've already spoken to Reed and he said no one, not even him, could do anything!"
>>147011004>>147011023>May calls Peter "Tiger">Peter says May is cute and then kisses herWaitaminute...
>>147011982Grim
>>147010131In Quesada's world, prison is filled with doctors who gave routine checkups to relatives of jaywalkers.
>>147011420>But I don't hear Supes and Bats fans constantly screaming about how their comics nowadays suck sooo much.Batman's gone pretty downhill in the last decade tbf
Yeah, BUT would you sold your marriage to the devil for Superpower, with no baggage
>>147011956>>147011976>>147011995Wow, this is REALLY fucking stupid.
>>147012664What's with those proportions on MJ in the last panel? She looks like the dwarf girl SpOck stuck his dick in.
>>147011488It really must have rubbed salt into the wound. JMS forced into doing this and being praised by utter hacks for it.
>>147012283"I'd sell my soul to fix this!"Queue an ever running series where Peter gives up more and more random things to Mephisto to fix increasingly minor issues in his life.
Man, why did Quesadilla's art look so good in Kevin Smith's Daredevil but so awful in OMD?
>>147012816Son of a bitch it’s gonna be the guy that spider got arrested in the first part of the storyIt’s so hacky
>>147012797He hadn't drawn on a regular basis during the 00sIf you wanna see how off his art could get around this time, look at Daredevil: Father
>>147011179ALL THESE PEOPLE HATE SPIDER-MAN AND MARVEL COMICS
>>147012956>Can we stop this now? I really don't want to do this anymoreYou don't get to say that, Joe
>>147012931This series wasted some of the best covers of all time.
>>147010542I remember seeing that in the theater. You won’t believe me, but people laughed and a few actually cheered when Dunst MJ got slapped down in that one scene. I lost a lot of respect for Raimi with that movie. You can really tell he was petulant about being told what he had to do and chose to actively sink the film as a whole. Yeah, sorry you had to use a marketable villain and not the fucking Vulture, I guess.
OMIT somehow manages to be worse than OMD
>>147013166It's the comic book equivalent of "insult to injury".
>>147013196>i couldn't live with that i'd break in twoWhy not? Why not experience complete devastation to it's fullest?
>>147008583What about your backups, Anon?What about your backups?
>>147008111Rest in piss, old bag
>>147008589Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!Iasaiah 5:20
>>147012380Okay.
The end.
>>147013367It's a shame Norman also forget Peter's identity. Would have made for a fun dynamic in Dark Reign.
>>147011816Goblin is MJ's Best Man, for killing Gwen and setting them up.
>>147008068This is not what I wanted to see when I woke up.
>>147012220
So reading this trash made me want to go back to where I left off in 616 spider-man and I wrapped up the clone saga. The end of that is fucking bleak and then one of the first stories afterward the villain is fucking paste pot Pete. What the shit.
>>147013570Oh also aunt may was dead in this storyline after having a strokeMakes one more day all the worse
>>147013370>>147013372>>147013375>>147013382>>147013386What a riot
>>147008068Heard rumors Quaseda drew the story himself, because no one else at Marvel wanted to touch it.
>>147008573People rightfully shit on Pete's del with Mr.phisto, but this moment and some moments in the Dream sequence shows just how out of character Pete's acting, >Tony claims that he cannot help May cause Pete is a fugitive(Never mind the Fact that May has nothing to do with that) Pete could easily offer his surrender in exchange for May's treatment as that would be the RESPONSIBLE thing to do
>>147012428It's the old guilt complex again.Like with Ben Parker, it was "his fault".
>>147012428>the idea that not a SINGLE superperson on the entire planet, magical or otherwise, is able to do anything at all for an old woman who got shot (and the comic actually goes out of its way to show Spider-Man asking everyone on the planet)Kek, also add to the fact that Strange HEALS peter later with his magic, yet a fucking bullet wound eludes a guy, who a moment ago bent time and space for Peter
>>147012976Paolo Rivera is one of the all-time great Spider-Man artists imo. One of my absolute favourite issues ever is Spectacular Spider-Man Vol 2 #14, which he did.
>>147013059>Yeah, sorry you had to use a marketable villain and not the fucking Vulture, I guess.Spider-Man 3 would have been fine if it just focused on Sandman and Harry as the villains, without cramming both the black suit and Venom in there as well.
>>147009066>>147009148>>147009186>>147009224Can anyone explain, what was the point of this sequence, didn't we already know what happened? Also this scenes accomplish 0.
>>147013070That top right panel is very overdue for exploitation
>>147013336What a load of BULLSHIT
>>147013386Th-thanks for the storytime, OP...
>>147013370>>147013372>>147013375>>147013382>>147013386Holy shit this is fucking terrible. I knew this guy was a hack when he said Peter being a teacher is bad.
>>147009768 Dead gay muppet gang-bangs
>>147013059>t. Avi Arad
>>147011910Maybe Silk is a Mephisto agent? Spidertotem my ass(but lube first)
>>147012244Should just have let him drop to his death. Hell, he has Muerto written all over him!
>>147011134I've always maintained that it would have been a good What If...?. All the contrivances can be hand waved as the plot just needing to happen. You're able to forgive more because its not canon. It being canon is what killed it.
OMD would have been good if after all this build up, all this seeming weakening of resolve, Mephisto shows up, MJ thinks he's made his choice and then Peter says NO. Just an absolute fucking of this villain that thinks he's won and a complete affirmation of Peter. Instead we got him saying yes because this entire story is just an editorial mandate to get rid of a part of the book they're butthurt at.
>>147012752The paparazzi ain't allowed ass shots like that no sir
>>147012244That page reminds me of that one porn parody comic, where entire Venom, Kingpin and even Hulk rape Spidey. Haha, it was so funny.
>Peter, I can't be with you, because your superhero life gets in the way. Anyway, I'm a superhero myself now, and love Paul. How's your life?
>>147013386now do sins past coward
>>147013942Yeah, that plot development kinda did remove any cope she had for not being with Peter didn't it? It's like the writers are bad at their job and have no idea what they're doing.
>>147012876wait, how do you actually KNOW he has done it before?
>>147013956We don't have enough posts, it needs to be a new thread.
>>147008139Still can't believe that Peter saw his 120 year old great grandma aunt and thought that maybe sacrificing his marriage to save her was a sane idea.Like, what if she was brought back to life and then died two days later due to a heart attack? What then?
>Marvel's flagship hero has canonically made a deal with the Devil>this has barely been addressed whatsoever in the 17 years sinceFucking mad
I like how they spent so much time shilling Carly to be Peters ultimate love interest, just to eventually drop her and never mention again after. They even had an issue where everyone, including Aunt May and MJ tell Peter how super mega ultra perfect she is for him. Like, COME ON.
>>147014278Don't worry anon, now we have Shay, and she's the new bestest thing to ever happen to Peter™
>>147014278Wasn't she also based on Quesada's daughter?
>>147014293She was named after her, don't know about appearance.
This & Spider-Man 3 gave me go away heat for life
>>147013372>Unending homagesBND did try to create new stuff for a while but guess what? Menace is an homage to Goblin mystery boxes, and Mister Negative is the only notable villain created that is at best a C-lister. Yeah sure there's some more C-listers like Screwball and others who have stuck around but they're just background material. Going back to the homages, I don't need to post the Gwen collage, the retreads of Juggernaut, or Spider-Verse.>>147013375>Never really got fleshed outCivil War. That's all I need to say. That event and the very stuff we are reading now is the reason why it didn't get fleshed out. That point is like incompetence and arrogance incarnate.
>>147013370>Spider-Man makes mistakes and bad choicesA mistake is forgetting the thermostatA bad choice is not telling someone you're Spider-Man after years living with that someoneDoing a deal with Mephistopheles is character assassination.>>147013372>Bugs Bunny of Super HeroesNow he sounds like shittier Deadpool, thanks a lot, dipshit.>Circle of FriendsStill inexistent as of right now.We have>May when the writers want the old fart>MJ (Who doesn't count because she's a super hero now)>Paul>Shay (for now)I can't remember anyone else that doesn't happen to be a super hero who's a mainstay of his support cast.>>147013375>knowing he's putting one over on the guy who hates him the mostnigga please, JJJ makes Peter's job fucking impossible because JJJ's retarded rhetoric makes Spider-Man look like he's worse than Red Skull.
>>147010959The worst thing about this is the art being great.
>Buy the One More Day four parter that was part of a Spider-Man compilation coming out>"One More Day...this is it, May's last 24 hours....">
>>147014558>Now he sounds like shittier Deadpool, thanks a lot, dipshit.What?He was Deadpool before Deadpool was a thing
>>147014645No. Peter was witty and funny, he wasn't an obnoxious faggot who made the shittiest/retarded jokes that are just two degrees of outright 4th wall breaking.There's a reason why people think Spider-Man "is just like Deadpool" and it's because the jokes fucking suck.
>>147014628What a weird selection of stories to compile
>>147008373Wasn't Anthony here indirectly responsible for this in the first place?
>>147013370Just compare the paragraph of that first section to the Wells run and it horribly fails at the first fucking hurdle.L O L
>>147014645Peter was outright caustic and insulting, he was not Deadpool level lol so random. As the other anon said, bad writers have made them seem equivalent.
>>147009556Is this a loli-demon or a demon-loli?
>imagine if aunt may found out peter sold his family and future away in order to save her
It’s not just his Aunt, It’s his GREAT Aunt.
>>147015019There's a reason Aunt May doesn't speak in the comic, and it's because even the editors knew she'd slap the shit out of Peter and tell him to let her be with Ben while he lives his life.
The fucking devil. Man come on
>>147010149Hits too close...
>>147010149Marvel always has to take a dig at their fans
>>147012678>Yeah, it was love, probably. I mean, it's that or you made a deal with satan or something, but cmon, ha. Congrats kiddo.
>>147012903The salt in the wound is them still being cute together in parts like this. Fuck all of this.You know, what's really funny is that in No Way Home, which was basically a retread of this plotline, even WITHOUT the marriage getting sold to the devil, even my NIECE hated the fact that they did this shit to reset all of Pete's relationships. They didn't even have nearly as long to build up Pete and MJ and everyone still hated that they reset it.
>>147012999>The Sentry>Didn't end too wellHoo boy that's a fucking understatement.
>>147013060They can do this shit but they couldn't heal some old broad. Just wanted to put that out there again for posterity.
>>147013096Meanwhile the one important mistake and lesson is the one he won't remember. Jesus christ why even bother at this point?
>>147011252Just the single sentence description of the story like that reveals so clearly how stupid the idea is. It really shows how far up their ass they are that they would write it out like that.
>>147015724Anon, the very idea of desecrating Annual 21 shows how far up their own ass they are.
>>147014163>barelyHas it been addressed at ALL?
>>147015785Yeah, there's a few hints here and there that makes Peter feel like something is wrong and Mephisto is sure to mock him about a deal he doesn't know about whenever he appears but that's it.
>>147014558>Now he sounds like shittier Deadpool, thanks a lot, dipshit.This is what annoys me about post-OMD Spider-Man, for a lot of those stories (I'm thinking most of BND/Slott/Wells) they overly try too hard to be funny. There were people on here long ago insistent that Spider-Man needed to be unfunny to be annoying to everyone, which sounded like it was Marvel hacks going on here trying to defend bad writing
>>147009768Pantyhose or bare legs?
>>147015776True but it's just so crazy how proud they seem to be of the fucking deal of the devil idea.
>>147013386Here is the WWLA Spider-Man Brand New Day panel from March 2008, only about a few months after the conclusion of OMDhttps://www.cbr.com/wwla-spider-mans-brand-new-day/"The audience has a question for you, Dan," said editor Steve Wacker. "Did you finish the dialogue for #560?""Yes!" Slott replied."Hooray!" Wacker cheered. "There's going to be a 'Spider-Man' #560!"Wacker said the next arc will be illustrated by Chris Bachalo, who "has been stuck in the ghetto of those X-books for ten years." Writing the arc is Zebb Wells, who will answer questions such as "where does Spidey fit in with the Avengers?"The panel then turned to Slott's issue #560, displaying the cover for fans to see. "It comes pre-ripped for all you YouTubers out there," the writer said. Slott promised the storyline will address questions fans have been waiting to hear answered.
>>147009825Loli dropping truth bombs
>>147015898Joe Kelly will be writing an arc of "Amazing Spider-Man," an announcement that was met with cheers from the LA audience. Wacker likened Kelly's story to the writer's beloved "Deadpool" run of the 1990s.Wacker then asked the crowd what was the first Spider-Man comic they read. A fan said he didn't remember the issue number, but that the story was promoted as featuring a villain "fatter than the Kingpin." The panel challenged noted Spider-Man fan Dan Slott to name the issue and title in which the story appeared, but the discussion was quickly derailed by some metathesis involving the word "gonad."In response to a fan's question about the presence of Mary Jane in Spider-Man comics, McCann indicated readers can find her in the return of "Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane" and in a "Spider-Man Family" storyline called "Mr. and Mrs. Spider-Man."A retailer explained that his customers "came in bitching and complaining" and asked the panel, "what do you say to that?"
>>147012233Pic related, that's it.TLDR: Imagine that you are sold a sequel series and it becomes a pale imitation of the original series in the worst possible way.Issue #7 is when that happens, and it does not help that most of the issues after it are terrible.>>147015522It just goes to show how horrible this form of status quo reset really is, and NWH's excuses to do it were better, if only slightly.
>>147015914"First of all we didn't do anything!" Guggenheim laughed. "Geoff Johns did this exact same bit in 'The Flash,' and nobody had a problem with it. Comic books are cyclical. Characters come in, characters come out. Bucky's dead, Bucky's alive -- spoiler. Steve Rogers is dead, Steve Rogers is alive-- spoiler.""Steve Rogers is not alive!" McCann said."The big question is what happened at the wedding," Wacker said. "These questions will be answered. But they're not questions we're going to answer right away." In response to the retailer's question, Wacker said the answer is to give them good comics. "Spider-Man's as good as he's been in 20 years," the editor said.
>>147015928Guggenheim told the crowd he came to Marvel as "an agnostic" concerning Spider-Man's marriage, "but I can tell you that as a reader and as a writer, unmarried Spider-Man is better."As to what did or did not happen in Spider-Man's Mephisto'd history, Slott declared that he and the other writers have answers and that "they're awesome."Bob Gale took a different perspective, saying "None of it happened. It's fiction," and invoked William Shatner's notorious "Get a life" episode of Saturday Night Live."I think artists prefer unmarried Spider-Man, too," Guggenheim said"They don't have to draw those two extra lines for the wedding ring," Slott added.
>>147015949Mike McKone will be drawing Bob Gale's next arc. "We have major sequence at Coney Island in #563," Gale said, and confirmed the Enforcers will be making an appearance. Some of the pages displayed seemed to reference events of "Civil War."In response to a fan's question, McCann confirms that Marvel has no plans to reprint Stan Lee and John Romita's daily Spider-Man newspaper strips.A fan asked why the Brand New Day team didn't just bring Uncle Ben back from the dead while they were rebooting the book. "I keep pitching to Steve that Uncle Ben never really died," Guggenheim said. "He faked his death and went on to create a very popular brand of instant rice and made millions of dollars."
>>147015960In seriousness, Wacker said bringing back Uncle Ben would cause Spider-Man to cease being Spider-Man."Why are you guys clinging so much to Aunt May?" asked another fan, saying the character's death in issue #400 was very dramatic and satisfying.Wacker said that nobody currently in charge of the Spider-Man line had anything to do with that story, but turned the floor over to Spider-Man authority Dan Slott, who said, "I got nothing.""Aunt May is at the core of these things," Wacker continued, explaining that Aunt May is part of the Spider-Man mythology, and killing her off for good would appear incongruous, as would a married Peter Parker and a living Uncle Ben.
>>147015974Another fan asked about how "Amazing Spider-Man" will be collected in trade paperback, given its unusual format. The panel said the first trade will have the Free Comic Book Day story, Guggenheim and Slott's first arcs. A second collection will follow with Gale and Zebb Wells' stories. Each trade is expected to contain five-to-eight issues of content."We're just telling the stories the way they need to be told," said Gale of the writing-for-the-trade trend. "We'll let the trade guys figure it out after we're done."The panel then announced a special story coming in August, which will be illustrated by John Romita, Jr."This guy's going places," the panel laughed.The story will be written by Dan Slott and is titled "New Ways To Die." Slott said the book will feature the return of many Spider-Man villains, including Normon Osborne in the first issue. Osborne will bring the Thunderbolts into New York City to fight Spider-Man.
>>147015914>Wacker then asked the crowd what was the first Spider-Man comic they read. A fan said he didn't remember the issue number, but that the story was promoted as featuring a villain "fatter than the Kingpin." The panel challenged noted Spider-Man fan Dan Slott to name the issueKek
>>147015949>GuggenheimAnd then he wrote some of the shittiest Spider-Man stories ever.
>>147015985As to how "Secret Invasion" will affect "Amazing Spider-Man," the panel revealed that there will be a three-part Spider-Man/Secret Invasion story that will feature Jackpot and be written by Brian Reed, whose involvement will keep the main writing team from going off track while implementing Secret Invasion elements into the book's storylines."What happened to Spider-Man's extra spider powers?" asked a fan."I think he forgot he had them," Wacker laughed, causing Guggenheim to lay his head down on the table and hide his face.A fan then asked about Peter's lovelife, which the panel assured will become a focus of the book, now that the character's single. "That's the thing that made Spider-Man revolutionary," Guggenheim said. "It introduced a soap opera element to comics. That's the essence of Spider-Man. That's the essence of the whole Marvel universe."Another fan argues that by making Spider-Man unmarried, Marvel cut out a chunk of their market in favor of one that's already serviced by "Ultimate Spider-Man," and asked why Marvel would "piss off so many folks."
>>147015928>>147015949>>147015960>>147015974>"Spider-Man's as good as he's been in 20 years," the editor said.>Bob Gale took a different perspective, saying "None of it happened. It's fiction," and invoked William Shatner's notorious "Get a life" episode of Saturday Night Live.>"They don't have to draw those two extra lines for the wedding ring," Slott added.>"I keep pitching to Steve that Uncle Ben never really died," Guggenheim said. "He faked his death and went on to create a very popular brand of instant rice and made millions of dollars."This was really the beginning of Spider-Man writers just being complete out of touch dicks and they're still like that.>"Why are you guys clinging so much to Aunt May?" asked another fan, saying the character's death in issue #400 was very dramatic and satisfying.Based fan.
>>147016032"We did it just to piss of Bendis," Guggenheim said."With all due respect to Marvel Adventures and the Ultimate line, none of those are the official Spider-Man book," Wacker said. "Amazing Spider-Man is what counts," and modifying the character to more closely resemble his classic portrayal was a creative decision, not a marketing one."I really love what you've done with Brand New Day," proclaimed a fan. "You've finally got Spider-Man hating Jameson again! Is the Lizard coming back?""You haven't seen the last of Curt Connors," answered Bob Gale."You are going to see him, but a little bit at a time throughout the rest of the year," Wacker said. "You'll be happy."For the last question, a fan asked, "Is Peter going to be smart again?""Let me tell you something about married men," Guggenheim said. "We pretend to be stupid. So from your perception, Peter will appear to be smarter than he previously was, but the truth is he was that smart all along but was, as a married man, hiding it."
>>147009868Happens all the time.The times, they are a'changin'
>>147016051"Why didn't you just have Peter divorce Mary Jane?" asked a fan."It would have been terrible for publicity," McCann answered."It really wouldn't have played well in the red states," said Slott."I pitched having her raped then murdered," laughed Guggenheim."This isn't DC Comics," said Jim McCann.The panel concluded with Steve Wacker giving fans the chance to win some prizes, including a Spider-Man sketch by Todd Nauck, a Spider-Man sketch by Jeph Loeb (which he signed as J. Scott Campbell), and a Spider-Man script. Fans were split into teams and asked to act out the scene depicted in the script, with the audience choosing their favorite performance and the winners being awarded the sketches.End scene.
>>147016083>"It really wouldn't have played well in the red states," said Slott.But you know what will? Having him make a deal with the devil of course!
>>147016051>For the last question, a fan asked, "Is Peter going to be smart again?">"Let me tell you something about married men," Guggenheim said. "We pretend to be stupid. So from your perception, Peter will appear to be smarter than he previously was, but the truth is he was that smart all along but was, as a married man, hiding it."It turned out that Peter became dumber after OMD. Of course if you also take Superior Spider-Man into account, everyone became dumber in that as well
>"I pitched having her raped then murdered," laughed Guggenheim.what an absolute faggot
>>147016083This is so funny now after how popular divorced Peter was in the Spider-verse movie.
>>147016155The real reason they don't mention is that deal with a devil nonsense is much harder to figure out how to undo compared to two people getting back together after a divorce. As Spider-Verse showed, a divorced Peter that gets his shit together and remarries is easy to do and super popular, so they have to keep the deal with a devil nonsense hanging around in the background so that it keeps anything from happening.
>>147015974>"Aunt May is at the core of these things," Wacker continued, explaining that Aunt May is part of the Spider-Man mythology, and killing her off for good would appear incongruous, as would a married Peter Parker and a living Uncle Ben.It feels like so damn many things since OMD have tried to make them look like the idiots they are for enforcing OMDLike not only does USM does all those things, but Into the Spider-Verse had Peter B go through a divorce and then eventually get back with MJ and have a daughterAnd that Sony game and the MCU killed off Aunt May
I think the worst part of keeping her alive is that I don't think she has ever done anything of note besides having sex with JJJ's father.Like, no, really, has she done anything important in the last 20 years?
>>147016207>>147016196>>147016124>>147016083It's pretty clear why Hickman's Ultimate Spider-Man is outselling the mainline book, and it's largely because it doesn't have this exact pathetic gaggle of inept, autistic retards helming the entire thing.It's extremely funny to watch Dan Slott cope and seethe.
>>147016240NOTHING!EVER!HAPPENS!>>147016241It turns out they were wrong for the last 18 years and everything they said to the contrary were just lies and horseshit. A book came out that did what the fans actually want it, and outsold the mainline effortlessly. It became not just Marvel's best selling Spider-Man comic, but also Marvel's best selling comic. They'll never forgive Ultimate for making them look dumb.
>>147016240That's the thing, they really haven't.They can't put her in major peril because it will remind everyone of the OMD deal. And if she dies then it meant Peter took the deal for nothing, which will get even more readers angry at Marvel for wasting their time.
>>147016241It's insane how long these cunts have been around fucking things up honestly
>>147015925Why do this? Wouldn't you want your sequel to have its own identity?
>>147016240She barely even shows up in the entire Wells run. She's there right at the start, telling Peter to fuck off because WHAT DID PETER DO? and then she disappears until his final issues, where it's business as usual.
>>147016268It's been nothing but a neverending incestuous circlejerk. Just a bunch of autists going 'UM ERR UH THE BOOK ISN'T CANCELLED SO THAT MEANS WE'RE FUCKING GENIUSES' like it takes any effort at all to make something with Spider-Man on the cover sell. It's one of the only things that sells, every other book these AIDS ridden faggots helmed fell apart in no time at all.
>>147016240No, but Quaseda was happy, because he sayed he would make the same deal for his sick aunt. You hear that Quasedas wife? He would sell you to satan for his aunt.
>>147016305Plus also relaunches and variants/incentive variants
>>147016309Quesada was sad about his dad dying because it meant that he had to grow up and live his own life.If I were Quesada's dad I would've killed myself because of my shitty son too.
It warms my heart that so much time has passed and just story timing it still brings out the same rage.
>>147016324And there's not a soul who'd defend it.
>>147016337There is one guy, but he's a child molester and Polish besides. But even he's sat this one out.
>>147016337Marvel editorial would defend it.I know there's at least some writers and artists there now who recognise it for the piece of shit, series-derailing story it is, but Editorial will fight tooth and claw to keep it as is. Middle management anywhere is always full of petty incompetents.
>>147015914>>147015928>A retailer explained that his customers "came in bitching and complaining" and asked the panel, "what do you say to that?">In response to the retailer's question, Wacker said the answer is to give them good comics. "Spider-Man's as good as he's been in 20 years," the editor said.You can't tell them to sell their customers good comics then give them this.
>>147008068Storytime the good Spider-Man comics. You know, the ones made before 1994.
>>147016455Retailers are pissed that Paul torpedoed everything for them all over again. Ultimate is pretty much the only Marvel thing driving foot traffic back to stores right now.
>>147016463Might put up a pallet cleansing ASM 290-292 story time at some point.
>>147016537You're a peach, anon. Cheers.
>>147016503You know what, this all reminded me to give that run a whirl. I saw the christmas one and it looked interesting.
>>147013070>>147013719Alright, finally at my computer so I get to do this>>147016463Storytiming 30 years worth of Spider-Man would be one hell of a commitment. There was an anon last year who tried to storytime Avengers from the start, and I think he only got to about #55 before tapping out.
>>147011420>but why won't they do it permanently in 616?because editorial are actual people with power to do shit as their job, and until they're fired or quit they get to enforce their shitty vision on the rest of the world regardless of popularity. Nick Lowe wants OMD to be canon and for Spidey to be a fucking cuck, so it is.
>>147016595I'd give it a shot. It's one of the few Spider-Man books that has good word of mouth behind it, and let's see if it does work.
>>147016299Skottie wanted to have his cake and eat it too by having Kid Gert back but still having the storylines that should have been with Adult Gert (reuniting with Cloudia & Duncan, return of the Gertlings, Happy End Game).
>>147012765>you're a big guy
>>1470168634U
>>147016798>Peter and his daughter brainstorming costume designs togetherTHIS IS WHAT THEY TOOK FROM US FUCK
>>147016455Nick Lowe: "B-But anon, P-Paul makes for g-good comics! He committed genocide, stockholmed MJ and got away with it! T-Think of the...um...what's that word again? Oh, right, drama! Think of the drama!"
>>147016697I swear there was someone doing all of Spider-Man. They got super far too.
>>147017293>ASM has failed to outsell USM for an entire year straight.
>>147016851I hope that if there is ever an I Hate Fairyland cartoon he is only involved in character designs
>>147016697Magister did it. He's at the clone saga now
See ya in the next SoP.
>>147017202I'm also enjoying Ben and JJJ's statler and wooldorf routine. I thought it'd get annoying but I love these old bastards.
