Bump if you're reading.
>>147045469They should make one some kind of bigot to spice things up
>>147045513Phantasma hasn't shown up yet that's a let down
>>147045469>jet powered powers…I want to see where Cadet Marvel goes
>>147045562This is too many characters. Funny to think Spider-boy is the biggest brand here
And that's it. If you liked this, support your LCS or whatever.
>>147045591Phantasma isn't staying?
Sex with all the Champions.
>>147045608ALL OF THEM!!??
Went in expecting to like Cadet the least, ended up liking him the best.
>>147045622All of them.
>>147045447So why does Marvel keep trying to make full-fledged titles out of gimmick variant covers?
>>147045562Is this team going to have three magic users?
>>147045679It worked before
>>147045469so Hellrune didn't get her powers from Hydra like the other three?
>>147045513so the Faroe islands?why wouldn't you just say that
>>147045539At least these aren't the same guys as that Max book
>>147045562who's the black girl in red meant to be a sidekick of?
>>147045749They all had powers before Hydra scooped them up. That's why Hydra grabbed them.
>>147045573>wat to soon new Warriorsit been like 4 to 5 years in Marvel time since the Civil War I'm pretty sure that's long enough
>>147045780She's not a sidekick, she's the cousin of the original Nightshade>https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Logan_Lewis_(Earth-616)
>>147045794Anon it's meant to be a dig at the New New Warriors
>>147045797but every other character is a supposed sidekick so it was a fair assumption to make
>>147045538Well, New York is on the other side of the country.
>>147045805The only bad thing about this getting cancelled is that Namora is still stuck in comics limbo.
>>147045449bump
>>147045797They ruined Nightshade, she was a fun villain.
>>147045679Because variant covers are the only things that make them money, so any time they can try and trick people into buying something else as a result of them they'll try
>>147045449Oh hey, it' the assholes from Superior Spider-Man! I'm glad they establish on Page 1 that there are already way too many already existing super hero teams in Marvel but HAVE NO FEAR, THE LITERALLY WHOS ARE HERE.
>>147045449>West Coast, Young or otherwise. They wishFucking I wish we could get an actual West Coast Avengers book again, with an actually decent team written by a non-hack
>>147045881how many non-hack writers does Marvel even have these days?
>>147045901I mean, some of the older writers still want to do things. Yost is back as well kinda
This sucks. Fantasma's design is strong but they'll just waste her with nonsense writing until they all get shelved and only Bailey and maybe Hulkette survive.>>147045901On ongoings? Like 3 or 4. Most of the talent is on one-offs and nostalgia books.
>>147045881The recent one is at least better than the godawful Kelly Thompson run.
>>147045950That's not exactly a high bar, but you're right. It still doesn't feel like a WCA book though. It feels like Duggan trying to extend his Iron Man run and also grabbing some other character's he's written along for the ride.We still don't even know if this "good Ultron" is Mark or not, even though it would be 100% appropriate and was set up earlier. I'm also just seething that Hawkeye isn't there when the Wackos were literally his team
Cadet Marvel #1
>>147045597If we are getting a Ghost Rider Editorial, she is moving there.
>>147045562I'm gonna guess most of these guys are going to be reserve members/shunted off into other books. Because otherwise, this team is going to be way too fucking bloated.>>147045591Thanks OP. This was overall pretty whatever, Cadet Marvel and Fantasma are the only ones I kind of liked.
>>147045481>Dad's an English teacherImmediately better legacy than Kamala.
>>147045909Holding out for a Phantasma and Robbie run because I really like the roller derby thing she has going on.I like Liberty and Cadet too. Hopefully this outing lets this team stick around, haven't liked a group of younger heroes in a long time.
>>147045591For the better, I hope.
>>147045504Does Hela have any nieces in mythology
>>147045509It makes me kek a little every time he calls Liberty by just Lib. I have always heard lib as an insult online and it is hard not to think of it as such. It makes this unintentionally hilarious.
>>147047378No. In mythology, Hel's only siblings are Fenrir and Jormungandr who are never described to have children of their own. Otherwise, I think it would probably impact Ragnarok in a significant way if there were other monsters to worry about.
>>147045469>Moon SquireMissed opportunity, New Moon was right fucking there
>>147045543ENTER
>>147045478>You can stay up late if you're killing SkrullsCarol's going to like his dad.
>>147045554Bailey really needs to get webs. How are we feeling Spider-Boy bros?
>>147045562>Juggernaut sidekickI guess they needed a replacement for the Hulk new champion being turned into a Hydra mech suit. However, they should just stick with Hulkette as the muscle of the group.
>>147045562It's a missed opportunity for them not include Gabby in this group. I do remember them trying to pitch a Wolverine champion for the group, but Gabby could easily fill that role. What is she currently doing with Laura?
>>147047822I don't think Justin knows the original Juggernaut at allBut I don't know if Carol will let him moonlight with this team unless he just gets teleported all the time.
>>147045447I'm liking that tummy
>>147045449Art could be better.
>>147045909Bailey, Hulkette and Phantasma is only cameos.On this team...maybe only Cadet will survive.
>>147047872Heroes... X-men are terrorists....
>>147047540Hel has three half-brothers in Sleipnir and the pair Vali and Narfi(the former being transformed into a wolf to kill the latter so the aesir could bind Loki with his entrails).
>>147048461I think you could make a solid case for Liberty too.But Cadet is a clear stand-out.
>>147045811Kid Jughernaut isn’t.
>>147048629I liked Liberty.But she is a Brazillian, and writters dont like use caracters they dont know the culture.Also she is a Teenage-Girl Genious, Marvel created a bunch of this in the last years and they dont use any.
>>147048725I'm more looking at her hard light abilities, not entirely unique but something that can be leveraged pretty well by decent writers. Super genius is just another tool in the bag. But I understand what you mean.I do find it frustrating, why create the characters and give them backstories like that if they aren't gonna use it to their advantage? Liberty looks cool, probably my favourite design for this group.
>>147048764I really like they give her light powers, and Squire can absorve light as a power.This can be interesting.But maybe you are right, and Marvel maybe still want give the name Liberty to a non-American caracter.
Lewds of Hellrune when?
>>147045539>Don't even have horns on the helmets
>>147047547But he isn't black. The outfit.
>>147045565I was hoping to see the Magneto girl in this issue.
>>147045472>MomsI fucking knew it.
>>147049293Moon Squire himself is a guy though.
>>147045447Marvel Kid is coolLiberty is cuteHellfire is cuteI feel nothing for Kid Moon KnightI feel nothing for any of the others eitherCould be worse.
The board is moving fast today.
>>147045447List of variant covers:New Champions #1 Federico Vicentini Homage VariantNew Champions #1 Luciano Vecchio Promo VariantNew Champions #1 Paco Medina VariantNew Champions #1 Peach Momoko VariantNew Champions #1 Rose Besch VariantNew Champions #1 Stanley 'Artgerm' Lau Amaranth VariantNew Champions #1 1:25 Nicoletta Baldari VariantNew Champions #1 1:50 Rose Besch Virgin VariantNew Champions #1 1:100 Stanley 'Artgerm' Lau Amaranth Virgin VariantNew Champions #2 Alitha Martinez Black History Month VariantNew Champions #2 Derrick Chew VariantNew Champions #2 1:25 Romy Jones VariantNew Champions #2 1:100 Derrick Chew Virgin VariantNew Champions #3 Derrick Chew Viv Vision VariantNew Champions #3 Humberto Ramos Reunion VariantHumberto Ramos Reunion VariantNew Champions #3 Peach Momoko Kimoko VariantPeach Momoko Kimoko VariantNew Champions #3 Saowee VariantNew Champions #3 1:50 Derrick Chew Viv Vision Variant
>>147050230For a second I thought that the cover with Fantasma had her in bondage.
>>147045447These are fucking children, 17 year old children. Why are their stomachs out? Why are they sexualized?
>>147045472This Captain America sidekick is fucking 16. What gooner drew her like that?
>>147049395Still strange they make the joke "no father black people"
>>147050230So is Milles or Spiderboy the new champions spider person
>>147050452There will be no more Miles!
>>147045472
>>147050259Same.
>>147045501I like the parents in this book
>>147045501
When the big 2 do big character dumps like this they almost all are forgot pretty quickly. do you think any of them have legs and will actually be actively used 5 years from now?
>>147051091>i just want to fix my son but these fucking kids won't leave me alone
>>147051116Nah. Even the ones from a decade ago have only 2 that could be called thriving and that wasn't dumping them all in one book.
>>147050944It's nice that we can have good parents again.
>>147051116The Barbieneto and Wolverine kid will find the most usage if they get properly introduced into an X-Book
>>147045562Hulkette is ecstatic.
>>147050846
>>147051116The character in the lower right corner was dumped in the Ultimate universe.
>>147045499>>147045549traitor birb
>>147045449>>147045463So fucking boring.
>>147051395she cute
>>147047378>Aunt Hela gets weekend custody
>>147050846She's going to get bred by Bailey's big ginger cock.
>>147046206She really should have her own mini. They could make her a speedster of sorts.>>147047135If she's not beating her enemies by crashing into them or grinding them against stuff it'll be a let down
>>147052684Why Bailey? He already has a harem.
>>147052727and said harem needs increasing
>>147050230It's like they know Phantasma is the most popular one
>>147052664>you kids like grog, right?
So wait, what issues that already came out set up what's going on in-universe? this is mentioning something with hydra, where can I go read that
>>147045517Moon Squire fucking hates left-handed people.
>>147052895the most recent spider-woman run, which was by the same writer.
>>147052764She had the best response on social media when they debuted the variant covers. It would make sense for Marvel to capitalize off her.
>>147052727Because Emilio is going to make out with Gerry Drew.
>>147053076>Carol/Jess, but with boys and the Jess role is a bad guyWeirdly plausible.
>>147045463Thanks, I hate it.
>>147047903Kid Juggernaut, Jin Joong-Sung, is the grandson of Cain Marko's direct predecessor, Jin Moon-Ho, whom Cain killed in order to take his power because Cyttorak wanted a new avatar. This was actually established way back in New Excalibur.I am curious to see what Kid Juggernaut and Juggernaut's inevitable first meeting will be like.
>>147051116>will actually be actively used 5 years from now?No because it'll just be the current writers creating their own OCs hoping to get royalty money.
>>147052970That's why she should get her own mini and not be on somebody's team or be pegged into a sidekick role. She should just replace Robbie there's already a Ghost Rider and she's got her own name.
>>147053455Because Fantasma would get canned after 8 issues due to sales we end up back where we started.
>>147053478If Gwenpool can go from a variant cover to a 25 issue solo comic I don't see why Fantasma can't.
>>147053478Hence a mini
>>147053341Kid Juggernauth is in the bad infinity webcomics.
>>147052948alright, thank you anon. this was neat enough, so I'll be curious to keep an eye on these characters and see if any manages to stay around after a few months
>>147053631Keep in mind...it's not a good comic.
>>147053649I'm reading it for the price of "having the computer on so I can check readcomiconline" so, no worry
>>147053689Clever boy
>>147045447This their first story appearance or is there something I should have read with them before this?
>>147047464Do you think he ever calls her a Liberty Tard?
>>147054017They first appeared in the final arc of the most recent Spider-Woman solo series. But the story is told in such a way that you don't need to read it, they recap everything.
>>147045469>>147045469SEX WITH CADET MARVEL!
What happened to the previous version of the team? No more Teen Trinity?
>>147045562Kinda wish they'd just stuck with the 4. They had a decent team dynamic to start but suddenly tripling the character count in issue 2 feels way too crowded.
>>147054391They went their separate ways. Will come back for the hero vs hero fight apparently, but might be a fakeout.
>>147050230No kid magneto. No pirate.
Liberty is cute. I hope she sticks around.
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>>147045562Bailey and Hulkette are middle schoolers. They should have their own team with other heroes their own age.
>>147045543…Xorn what the fuck are you doing.
>>147045562Kid Juggernaut's already on a team. What's he doing here??
>>147050846>>147045472I like Liberty. Let's keep her.
>>147045679It worked twice.
>>147045805I wonder if these guys are gonna pick up the slack from that book. And/or if it's gonna tie in to the new Avengers Academy.(hey if anyone from Marvel lurks here my pitch is still on the table :) )
>>147048629I like both of the guys, I like Hulkette and Fantasma, and going from design alone I like the Magneto girl(and the Thing kid who we sadly haven't seen yet...really hoping they show up).
>>147045469So is Moon Squire here a Darkforce guy?? Cool.
>>147053076>"I can fix him"
>>147053649didn't hate it, though it was also a bit too short to be much of anything. I like the context these guys are getting to exist in, at least- being fake hero copies of real heroes created by hydra has precedent with hydra cap, being teen heroes appearing out of nowhere based on other heroes has precedent with spider-boy (even if in his case it was a literal retconning into existence, in theirs it was just hydra lying about their backstory), etcI'll keep an eye to see if any of these characters stick around. of course, the bigger issue now in terms of "why are there teen copies of these heroes" is that this whole arc only explained why four of them were like this- what's gonna be the explanation for hulkette or fantasma? no idea
>>147054368He does have a nice design, think he’ll get a shirtless scene?
>>147057060i hope so
>>147056743>hulkette or fantasma? no ideathey need the least explanation really. hulkette = just another gamma mutate. fantasma = another Spirit of Vengeance host. they can be blue.
>>147057671honestly I'm the most curious about magneto-chan
>>147057060Nice design? You can't be fucking serious. That costume is atrocious.
>>147057811Just because he has pants so we can't see his cute bulge in the leotard doesn't mean it's atrocious
I'm reading but kinda wishing I wasn't.
>>147045472>we got out ass kicked by tween sidekicks>tweenSomeone wanna tell the artist? These guys do not look "9-to-12."
>>147050846I want to BREED this brazuca
>>147045533Cadet is so cute bros...
>>147050307you gonna cry about it?
>>147057811I’m talking about his face, not his costume. The upper half of the costume looks decent enough anyway, the pants are the only real issue.>>147058035I wonder if the artist takes commissions.
Not quite as bad as I feared but this badly needs a different artist. Moon Squire looks young in a couple panels, but none of the others look younger than 15 or 16, and they ARE meant to be younger than that apparently. You could tell me that Liberty, Marvel, and Hellrune are college students and I'd believe you.
>>147058090the majority of artists will tend towards that so if anything I feel the writing should adjust and state them as older
I think it was a good first issue. I at least like how the team interacts with one another.
>>147058090>>147058103Wait are you saying that they’re all supposed to be Spider-Boy’s age? Obviously Moon Squire is mostly fine and being fully covered helps but I think at least in this artist’s style Cadet Marvel has the right face, it’s just that his body is too skintight and muscular lean. Speaking of, why are there two artists, who is doing what? Or are they a team working as one?
>>147045543>Me llamo fantasma>One short sentence of Spanish, otherwise speaks perfect EnglishFucking hell Foxe, don't make me hate her. I will throw issues of Blue Beetle at you.
>>147045608>Sex with all the Champions.
>>147045749>so Hellrune didn't get her powers from Hydra like the other three?>>147045787>They all had powers before Hydra scooped them up. That's why Hydra grabbed them.Hydra surgically implanted wings in Liberty, so even though Hydra isn't the source of their powers, it might have upgraded the kids.THAT SAID, since the kids all got their powers on their own, and have their families back (except for the orphan) the whole Hydra background feels pointless as fuck. Foxe basically just took some notes about these heroes and slapped on a post-it note saying "And Hydra was there too, making Spider-Woman relevant."
>>147058134One did the flashback story at the end, after the main one.
>>147045794I dunno, it feels like if someone announced they had a new building project planned in New York called "The Twin Towers." Probably should just leave that name alone.
>>147045805Now I'm curious about what happened to them in universe. Were the Marvel citizens so put off by this team that they disbanded?>>147051116Some of them may have the privilege of dying in a shitty event comic
I'm mainly just happy to see Spider-boy and Fantasma. Cadet and Lib are nice, the other two don't really stand out as much to me. The Hydra angle definitely makes the whole "lost sidekicks" angle work a lot better. I was wasn't anticipating the team to end up as big as it seemingly is. If it was up to me I'd probably only have the original 4 plus Spider-Boy, Fantasma and which ever other character is the most established besides those two.
>>147058208Ah so separate, hopefully I guess that meant Ivan was the one doing the main story. I like the artstyle even if the ages aren’t really matching the visuals based off what other people are saying.
>>147057935>>147058090>>147058133>anon in charge of understanding exaggeration
>>147046894>I'm gonna guess most of these guys are going to be reserve members/shunted off into other books. Because otherwise, this team is going to be way too fucking bloated.Which is a big problem because the least interesting ones are the core four. Cadet Marvel at least has "Tween Guy Gardner" energy, but that makes him the least dull of a very boring selection of main characters.
>>147047872>What is she currently doing with Laura?Nothing, ever since Laura and Gabby got handed off to the "I'm Not Starfire" retard they've been wasted.
>>147049293>"Gays! Existing in fiction! I KNEW IT!"You are way too easily triggered, snowflake.
>>147045447IT FINALLY HAPPENED
>>147054017They "appear" in Spider-Woman but honestly never get personalities. It was not a good comic. You get a perfectly fine summary from the "backup" comic in the second half of the book. Read that then the first half. And never read Spider-Woman, it's a bad boring book that tries to convince you that a bad boring hero is good, and fails.
>>147052970Honestly it's not even that she's THAT good, it's just the book's main characters are incredibly lame.Fantasma is a tween into roller derby that gained demonic powers somehow. Neat.Hulkette is a tween with Hulk-adjacent strength that she has to build up over time, and a Toph-level 'tude. Neat.Bailey is an upbeat kid despite Parker-Luck-Level shit making a mess of his life (kidnapped and turned into a monster, can't find his kidnapped mom, got erased from everyone's memories for a few years). Works well.Then you've got Hellrune with her vague magic, Liberty who just does science well and is vaguely Captain America-aligned (but the bird one), and Moon Squire is probably meant to be the broody one but there's no real effort to play it up, and beyond that he's just a generic fighter. Meh.
>>147058236It's certainly possible, but who knows? Hulkette and Spider-Boy are 10, and they're part of this whole thing. Until I see a couple of panels of Liberty standing next to Spider-Boy for comparison I'm not going to pretend to know what's the intent.
>>147052895You don't get much from Spider-Woman's book that wasn't in the summary. The Champions were basically NPC pawns of Hydra that got only a couple lines of dialogue.
>>147045481Is this level of "I don't give a fuck about my Secret Identity" normal in the Marvel Universe these days? Also is it just me or is this character meant to be like 8 or a midget or something?
>>147058317>vaguely Captain America-aligned (but the bird one),Oh right, that makes sense now. I guess.
>>147045565Who has what it takes is hilarious, as if these fuckers aren't the newbies. But I speculate it'll go like this >Bailey: is a no as he has his own book and is to young also is a spider person but might agrees to be supporting member as they are friends with spider woman who he is connected with.>Hulkette: Most likely a no as she's implied to be 10 like bailey, so a bit to young and she's connected with bailey's arc until about may or june when the dragon challenge arc ends.>Magneto girl: 100% she will be getting her first appearance so it makes sense for her to be exclusive for this book>Strange boy: probably as he is also exclusive as far as I know and he just fits their vibe>Ghost miku: idk as she feels like she's got the most text so far of non champions and she only had 1 cameo so far outside of this book so she could fit.Coal Tiger: black panther wannabe, wakandan and first appearance 100% she's a match made in heave for them also she has extra art going around so they made it obvious>Scarlet witch knock off: probably just come on first cameo and concept >Juggernaut kid: idk him well but probably not as idk why but most teams especially kid teams seem to shy away from super buff/big guys teen teams like to have skinny scrawny kids probably to hard to make them look young when huge hulking teens.Though as you can see they have too many candidates so who knows. I feel fantasma is a shoo in as she is the most popular of any of the people that don't have more than 1 appearance.
>>147050230So yeah exactly who I expected to be picked though shocked magneto girl wasn't 1 of them?Also will these guys live off cameos?
>>147045472Oh so they ARE tweens?
>>147045562Look all this future Marvel Rivals heros.
Might draw some new champion stuff, probably mostly bailey Any request?
>>147045463These seems like excessive force for this situation
>>147045589This feels almost exactly like the Bendis Titans problem. At one point there was basically an army of Titans rolling around and they mostly just sat in the background and maybe said a line or punched a mook.
>>147058876What kind of stuff do you want or are willing to draw?
>>147045581>we did kind of blow up Alcatraz>but no bigHey, Alcatraz is a national landmark! A relic of America's history of crime, incarceration, and also the site of important Native American cultural movements!Fucking kids these days
>>147045589also weird that he is probably the youngest of all these kids but also the most experienced
>>147058268Why do leftoids love out-of-date right wing lingo so much?
>>147045805>it's meant to be a dig at the New New WarriorsIs it though? It could easily be a dig at the old New Warriors fighting Nitro in the suburbs for media clout and inadvertently kicking off the entire Civil War. Makes more sense to reference that than a failed team that never was.
>>147059298I don't know, why do rightoids love out-of-date black lingo so much? I guess we all emulate our lessers in some way.
>>147059614You seem upset.
>>147059054ANYTHING!!!! But really I usually just draw spider boy stuff honestly. So really asking with refs is better than me trying to tell you as like we could be here all day.
>>147060163Oh sure I totally understand, but like do you want to do nsfw, sfw, spicy or cute etc?Anyway how about a cheery Bailey with a big smile, perhaps with a thumbs up too?
>>147058876Cadet Marvel meeting Captain Marvel (but in her black and gold costume) and getting a thumbs upOptional: seething Kamala
>>147060216I feel the purpose of anything is lost on people now, YES!!! lol, If I like the idea I'll draw if not I won't not a real biggie anon. You are overstressin yourself broThat sounds easy and wholesome thank you>>147060233Now this is hard but hilarious, assume you mean the leotard suit right???I might do these I like to be lose and open for more
>>147058876Bailey finally getting webshooters and celebrating by webbing up Hulkette and Spider-Girl if you feel like it
>>147058876The girls forced to wearing bathing suits to get good ratings/approval online.
>>147060902Yeah the one Cadet's is based on.Alt idea: Pose match
>>147058876Bailey smacking Spider-Woman in the ass.
>>147060977Which girls?>>147061002Oh yeah thought so also yee this makes my life much easier. People never send refs and it kills me>>147061313Based>>147060936Heh tis a fun idea and hulkette pushes me to try it. Spider girl huh hmmmmmmmmmm
>>147045447Team's too big they should have just stuck to the team they had at the start
>>147061500>>which girlsLiberty, Hellrune, Coal Tiger, Ameranth, Fantasma, Hulkette
>>147061500>Heh tis a fun idea and hulkette pushes me to try it. Spider girl huh hmmmmmmmmmmCould use these for references. Or just almost entirely webbed like mummies.
>>147061518>Ameranthwho dis?Also honestly idk that's a lot of girls do you maybe have a good ref? cause I'd need to find like 6 bathing suit pose
>>147062558Amaranth is Scarlet Witch's new apprentice.
>>147062692Ah lowkey didn't care enough to know her name plus no name drop I though
>>147061500>RefsOh sure, those tooBomber jacket Carol if you want to really matchy-match Cadet Marvel.
>>147045486She needs correction.
>>147062761True kind of sad hellrune was the one I was most interested in now I'm already over her as she seems like typical angsty girl.>>147062727Meant like pose ref lol but yeah these help man used to love carol's design. Only new one I like is the long hair CM with the mid riff jacket.>>147061764Oh see good things for refs I was going more like legs above head posehttps://litter.catbox.moe/zww4yq.jpg>>147062511Nobody ever wants femneto as a secret human fetishist gooner
>>147063256>Oh see good things for refs I was going more like legs above head poseThat's good too, choose whichever one you like best.
>>147063456Ok got to think of the pose but might go lazy and make bailey masked up idk yet thinking of how I'd do any of these. got slowed down a bit with a comm so probably not gonna be as soon as originally planned.
>>147062692When was her name revealed?
Someone needs to draw Cadet with a gun. He seems like he would love to have one.
>>147050846Needs to get fucked.
>>147058212>Now I'm curious about what happened to them in universe. Were the Marvel citizens so put off by this team that they disbanded?They were outlaws weren't they?They probably got arrested, or screwed up and decided they didn't work as a twam, last i checked the vampire twink is chilling with Morbius.
>>147058142So should she be using more random Spanish words, or less?
>>147058876Requesting Hulkette with more muscle
>>147066453I've done that a few times, actuallyhttps://x.com/darkthoughts61/status/1873488316169089355/photo/1
>>147067079Do you have that in catbox? Twitter does compress images.
I came into this comic with low expectations but the characters were more likeable than the older teen Champions and we get to actually see their family and home life and it feels more relatable and stable in a way.
>>147067112Damn honestly sent because i didn't have my PC open. think this is the right one>https://files.catbox.moe/jawkii.png
>>147067173I'll say same but they haven't really wowed me, like honestly I kind of dislike the family stuff as I feel every series does teen heroes like this "Oh no what if mom and dad find out whooaaaa, or oh no it's a school night" in my opinion slightly dimenshes the heroism and idk maybe I'm just upset about spiderboy doing the exact same thing a few months back. But at least they did the homeless/struggling hero kid for at least 10ish issues. I feel like it made me hunger for more super kids but with no real support but each other, and these are ex hydra kids it's weird they are just obediently listening to their parents and their parents treat them like kids they are implied to have been kidnapped and trained for years.Again as you can see I'm kind of tired of the basic relatable teen hero curfews prom etc thing since everyone does it.
>>147045805No it's the older ones unless the New New Warriors did social media. But the Old New Warriors did the whole reality TV thing and I guess sliding time scale would've made it into social media by now.
>>147045562I wonder if they will change the name of Coal Tiger.
>>147053515Gwenpool designt is a mix of Gwen Stacy and Deadpool. When was the last time a Ghost Rider was popular?
>>147067970She gets the Miku/BRS/Fireball popularity
>>147045464Ivan drew an FF issue recently where Reed and Johnny were shirtless half the time, he has a great artstyle.
>>147051116it going to be process of elemination. We know so are already dead in the water. However, the main group seems to have the most growing legs.
>>147067778https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/black-history-month-2025-variant-covers-black-panther-captain-america-stormThey called her Gold Tiger in the Black History Month variants
>>147058876Requesting liberty to wear a usa bikini?
Ivan’s commission prices circa this past September.
>>147045562Zero cheesecakeFuck Disney
>>147045472>tweenOh, they are? Huh. Okay, might not be QUITE as generic as I thought at first.
>>147058876Bailey with some of these new gals ("new" including the ones in Spider-Boy) as harem girls. Like Arabian themed.
>>147045469Why does Moon Knight have a legacy character? Who the hell sees Marc and think that's the guy I want to emulate?
>>147068594Someone needs to update the tag on the booru then. There is only one piece of art with her, but it would be nice to have it properly tagged.
>>147059298"Triggered" remains the go-to term for when someone has an outsized reaction to something minor. If you're going to freak out at the sight of minor gay characters like the Comic Code Authority is still being enforced, it's more than a little silly to complain someone else is "out-of-date."
>>147069219He's not exactly emulating Marc. The origin is that the kiddo accidentally hooked up with some Egyptian gods looking for a modern champion. There's plenty of room for him to go "honestly I don't even LIKE Moon Knight, but I didn't get to make the call."
>>147062692>Amaranth and Hellrune are both amnesiac orphans with mysterious, dangerous magical powers and also have the same writerThey'll turn out to be sisters or something.
>>147068650>At least some of the cast are 9-12yo, some explicitly 10>"Where's the cheesecake?"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqiW4w6MlQU
>>147069219I don't know much about Moon Knight other than the vampire event. But Moon Squire seems ok? Not too forced or obnoxious. I'm worried that they'll replace him with Coal^H^H^H^HGold Tiger. She even has the Black Genius Girl Hair Dumplings.
>>147045805I do like B Negative...
>>147069238>"triggered" remains the go-to term for when someone has an outsized reaction to something minorNot really, seldom anyone uses it unironically nowadays.I think that mid 2010's and """the rise of alt-right""" still live in leftist heads rent free even a decade later.
>>147045472>>147045469nobody says tween irl
>>147045577>>147045581>>147045586I'm confused. Did their families all just so happen to live in the same city?How are they taking the bus to meet up with each other?Why are their parents okay with these brainwashed kidnapped children going out to fight crime? Shouldn't some of them be, I dunno, worried? Over protective? Worried about the fact that Vigilante justice is technically illegal?
>>147069714I think only Moon Squire lives in San Fran and he's the one that takes the bus.
>>147069391He was a nice twink femboy
>>147058876Dammint got late this time... :/
>>147069597It's certainly possible that there was a sharp dropoff after 2022.But it seems more likely you're just full of shit.
>>147069714It's the damndest thing, yeah.Hulkette is allowed because her guardian is a damn psycho warrior. Same with Pai over in Iron Fist. Spider-Boy just barely gets "okay, but nothing SERIOUS" approval from his mom and Spider-Man because the poor kid's cursed with knowing when disasters will happen to other people, and nobody who cares about him is going to force him to sit there and just let people die. Why do Liberty and Moon Squire's parents let them do this? UhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHFoxe isn't a good writer?
>>147070089>1800Go all the way back to the mesozoic era, why don't you.
>>147070197The word has entered fairly standard lexicon.Sorry that triggers you.
>>147070274Lmao, sure.Have fun no-u'ing your political opponents with terminology that they've abandoned almost a decade ago.
>>147070325>getting triggered this hard
>>147070325Damn he really rustled your jimmies.
>>147067986Still weird she's not asian and is just another hispanic rider. They might as well say only Latinos can get the curse now.>>147051116>>147068578True it really is about who has the potential to grow or is funBut let's be honest it's better to say how would last>Kid hulk is just hulk but a kid but hulkette is a loli hulk we haven't seen that many times only in lyra and she's never coming back>Fantasma is a unique rider design and super popular since her cover and little cameo>Storm girl is super popular though mostly here as I never see to much art of her>Hellrune might just become something fun design and seems to most likely be asgardian maybe a thor relative since we saw shadow of hela.>Magneto girl just might become popular too seems people like her.>Other champions probably will do fine since they have a team run and those chosen to join them will get a boost as well the rest will be like any other fad and die off.
>>147068594They probably realized how dumb and bad twitter might take it. But if they ever find out the og name they'll still get some hate.
>>147068634Heh based>>147069166Hey I already did something like that once actually, honestly was hard might try to just redo original and try to add as many as I can. But really might take a while on these keep getting comms ironically for bailey lol
>>147069865you really weren't read above haven't been able to start any got like 2 comms in a row maybe they read the new champions two and it sparked some love-o
I wonder if this book is going to catch peoples attention by issue 3 considering the original Champions are going to be showing up. And given twitters general disdain for Bailey, I imagine the New Champions are going to catch flack both by association to him as well as taking the name from The Champions.
>>147070677>Kid hulkKid Hulk (aka Titan) was The Titanium Man/The Gremlin, a Soviet midget that dressed up in a 9-foot mecha that had fake green skin. And then he died. Probably. No body.
>>147070972Ah welp at least that went somewhere
>>147070972The more I think about it, the more this was an almost-decent idea bungled because it just HAD to be about Spider-Woman and give her all the attention.Imagine if say the first 5 issues were the 4 kids, led by Titan, just going out and fighting crime while being a little too quick to use force against nonviolent offenders, and a little too concerned about corporate property and the like. And they were hanging in a base and talked about their pasts but oddly never really mentioned WHY their parents were fine with them doing all this. And then Loliberty accidentally got de-brainwashed and had to free the other ones, then found out the secret of their leader and his financial backers.
>>147070992Unfortunately, Viper just cannot resist fucking with Jessica.
Cadetbump.
>>147058412read the epilogue anon
>>147072516Re-read it to see if I got an answer. Nope.
>>147045586>>147073140
>>147073153"Hydra took our chance at secret identities" - a member of the team that walk home and stroll in the front door wearing their superhero costumes.To some extent they may have had their covers blown, but this level of "I don't give a fuck how many people know my exact address" is weird.
>>147069249>the kiddo accidentally hooked up with some Egyptian godsWhat's that have to do with the moon?
>>147073274We'll have to keep reading, won't we?
>>147045447next issues:>RELEASES FEB 12TH, 2025New Champions #2NEW ALLIES... AND ENEMIES? Hellrune has summoned young heroes from far and wide, but who among them has what it takes to become a New Champion? The smooth-talking magician Monte seems to be a prime candidate, but is he more than he appears? And who is the mysterious MAGNETRIX?>RELEASES MAR 19TH, 2025New Champions #3CHAMPIONS VS. CHAMPIONS! The New Champions adopted a name that didn’t belong to them — and the previous Champions have something to say about that! But when an old ene
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>>147058412It has been for a whileKate Bishop and her West Coast Avengers? the only one who wore a mask was Gwenpool. And her code name is her nameAvengers Academy? None of them have civilian lives to speak of, they're all just full time D-ListersI think Kamala's Champions might be the last group to actually care about secret identities. And half of them didn't even have them (Cho never hid that he was Hulk, Riri Williams and Nadia van Dyne are open about their identities so that they can get credit for their scientific achievements, Viv Vision is pink skinned and green haired, etc)Made Kamala's funeral a little awkward
>>147074367>>147074375>>147074380>Editor:Hey show off the ones that will join the new champions so people like them and think they're cool. But don't make it obvious>Artist:I got you broGive the 3 that will join the team cool show out pages
>>147074375Cadet!!
Kid Juggernught is also getting a one-shot in April>https://aiptcomics.com/2025/01/10/new-kid-juggernaut-april-2025/
How many of the OG Legacy Champions still get featured in books regularly besides Miles and Kamala?
>>147074393>The way Moon Squire is holding Hellrune in the bottom panel.Are they gonna be a thing?
>>147075324Of the original 6? Just adult CyclopsOf the extended roster? Ironheart shows up fairly often in guest spots, usually in Iron ManNadia shows up sometimes when Ewing is writing a book about Pyms
>>147075324I miss Sam.
>>147074375Cadet Liberty and Amaranth triangle?
>>147074664You could also look at things in battle royale logic where the earliest highlighted are the first ones off the train. But looking at the variant covers you're probably right.
>>147077391Might as well. Relationship drama is what most people read these comics for.
>>147077391There is no triangle in Bailey's Harem
>>147076687You better hope he's relevant to the crossover issue, but my gut tells the panel time is going to be dominated by Kamala and Miles.
>>147078008Based
>>147077464Yeah the covers kind of tell us also ironic that the ones they pick are all females??? Like it ruins the male to female ratio exponentially.>Liberty-f>Moon squire-m>Marvel Cadet-m>Hellrune-f2-2 ratioIf covers are to be believed it now goes>Gold Tiger-f>Fantasma-f>Amaranth-fNow it's 5-2 it's so weird to not add a single male but all the males were either trash or important to a current story line
>>147079157You talk like at least on of the males is not LGBT+
>>147045679I feel like the rights to the Champions name were about to expire if they didn't use it so they had to publish something with the name on it to keep it
>>147045679Proven interest. Easier to justify new heroes based on a variant cover that gets a modicum of attention than to just throw a out a new hero at random.
>>147079354That feels weird, but on the other hand Champions is a horribly generic name so maybe that could be the case somehow.
>>147069455>Downloads a demon summoning program
>>147074393Thanks.
>>147079181Dear god, so basically 6 females and 1 boy this like the reverse og avengers
I want her to be popular and added to a video game already.
>>147080756She'd be so much fun in marvel rivals, but really they need to figure out her official age.>I say 12-14 is best as the age range of the other riders are already between 16-25 and johnny's like 35-40
>>147074434I'd still argue there's a huge difference between the lack of secret identities in, say, Avengers Academy, and these dumbasses walking right up to their homes in broad daylight wearing their gear. May as well go onto twitter and say "criminals that I've hurt in the past, if you want to REALLY hurt me my family lives at 427 Drury Lane..."
>>147080955Eh really secret identities aren't as big in Marvel if you pay attention. So many heroes are super open about their identities>Cap>Iron man>Fantastic Four>She hulk>Luke cage>Iron fist(sometimes)>Hawkeye>X menAs you see some of the biggest names have no S.I so it's just one of those things where marvel barely cares. Even bailey the spider boy identity is known by like 3 villains and he's only 14 issues in.
>>147080992Okay, but again, these aren't people living with their very-easily-killed parents in suburbia. Good fucking luck killing Tony Stark, or even Tony Stark's close friends, they're pretty safe. Moon Squire's moms and siblings? If The Brothers Grimm decided to get revenge, they could kill Squire's family without working up a sweat.
>>147080394That's is just Megami Tensei
>>147080955Kate Bishop has a rich father and sister who are well known as socialitesThey could easily be killed or held ransomAnd that bitch doesn't even wear a mask
>>147081035Yeah exactly why I said I wasn't a fan of them going back to their families as it instantly does what I kept saying in the previous threads I hoped they didn't do. Making them already well adjusted kids, like someone said it was good and they like these type of stories but the thing is they are so basic for teen heroes. It'd be better if they didn't have secret identities because they still are amnesic and trying to cope with the insane amount of trauma of being turned into supers and being trained and abused for years on end. Them being oblivious teen heroes with supportive families is boring as hell.
>>147074380>i turned the water to piss
>>147081398If they that rich, they're going to have SOME defenses. It's still dumb, but not "holy fucking shit" dumb like these kids that live in the suburbs and just take the bus(!) to and from their very-easily-bombed homes.
>>147079181What are you talking about? Cadet and Squire just seem like regular straight kids.If anything I feel like Liberty will be the token gay.
>>147082644>Thinks Cadet isn't going to end up gayDude. Foxe is NOT talented enough to pass up the obvious "the sort-of-convervative (but not in a threatening way) handsome kid is secretly gay" twist.
>>147082644>If anything I feel like Liberty will be the token gay.Not Libby, please not her
>>147082669Twist based off what, this is only the first issue and I see no hint whatsoever. Like champions did the Viv bs early on, or how Young Avengers had Wiccan out from day 1 as the Asgardian. Also where the heck are you getting that he’s conservative from? If they’re tweens they won’t care either way, and his dad looks like just a teacher wanting him to be on the right path in school.
>>147082644>>147082693>Caring about Lib, Cadet, Squire, or HellruneThe "Special Guest Stars" are the only ones worth a damn. And Hulkette is going to be a baby-bi.
>>147045562That is a lot of characters. Will they be a huge team?
>>147082669Don't see how Cadet is conservative at all, if anything he seems like a younger Carol (hawkish liberal)
>>147082713>based on whatFoxe's career as a writer. He will have at least one of the characters be gay, and he'll want there to be some sort of "message" to it. Having the one that comes off as conservative be the gay kid is the low hanging fruit when you're trying to have a message.
>>147082728>>147082744The squire has two moms so that’s one thing but I don’t see Cadet comes off as conservative at all. Am I missing something? He just seems like other older Marvel kids like Sam Nova or Chase Stein, headstrong muscle guys who don’t use their heads much.
>>147082728>>147082761With a writer like this it's six of one half a dozen of the other.
>>147082767
>>147082767>>147082790That's when they were brainwashed by HYDRA.
>>147082693
>>147082797The personalities didn't change. The loyalty to Hydra was buried deep, where it didn't show.
>>147080756She's quite cute.
>>147082767>>147082790Also his father is drink beer while teaching him.
>>147050846>>147051652Liberty's won me over. She's adorable and needs some lewd art.
How will Carol react to Cadet Marvel?
>>147084833Carol will fuck him.
>>147084833Why does he look like Johnny Cage lmao
>>147045447This feels forced
>>147045447And 40 years ago we had Wolfman and Perez's Teen Tians and after that no one has been able to come close to how to make a teen team of believable superheroes that look good and have good stories, this issue 1 looks like a Disney plus project even the cringe costumes that no teenager would wear, a waste of time
>>147084833Assumably in a similar manner to how she reacted to Miss Marvel. So how did she react to Miss Marvel, I didn't read that.
>>147051091Holy shit Jess gets some respect
>>147053649Poor Jess gets no respect
>>147084847He’s no Rhodey
>>147082693Don’t worry. It will be Hellrune.
>>147045554>Another comic book acknowledges Spider-Boy's existenceIt's all ogre lads
>>147055655>And supervised by Skip
I didn't read this but the concept is stupid and Foxe is a terrible writer so I assume this is bad.
>>147080756Her being added to rivals would be amazing but we already got Namor so that's already the Latino quota filled. >>147080795Could just be an adult version. If they can't do Johnny because of China skull rules I'd take her over Robbie. It'd be easier to do her then a character with a car or motorcycle.
>>147086316She doesn't fuck Rhodey to begin with.
>>147087128Oh anon, sorry to tell you this but……
>>147081398There should be a reveal that Kate has an illegitimate half-sister named Shard. Maybe have her family name should be the same as one of the Chessmen.
>>147086926Oh I meant in comic, like her age isn't confirmed in game they'd probably just make her like peni ambiguously a teen to young adult. I think that's fine also yeah another reason why I say add her a motorcycle would be hard asf and a car basically impossible.
>>147087186He's pretty much just there as wallpaper. Spends more time with her various girl friends and relatives than her alleged boyfriend. Even one comic had her invoke Tony instead of Rhodey when talking about men.
>>147087319Peni’s a confirmed teen, what’s ambiguous is how old is she. I think both the comic and the movie versions were 14, that also fits with how old the Eva pilots are so I think the Rivals version should be the same considering they kept the references.Personally I’m more curious about how old the Rivals versions of Iron Fist and Spidey are, online fandom doesn’t seem to be aware that IF is only like 19 at the oldest, compared to comic Peter being 28
>>147087319A motorcycle might be tricky but her roller skates would probably be easier to do. Unless they only use the car/motorcycle for the ultimate
>>147087416Peni is probably 18 because marvel. Iron Fist is such an industry plant it should have been Pei
with this and Rivals, are comics finally healing?
>>147086806It's bad.
>>147087432Yep exactly she'd be rolling around probably could even wall glide>>147087416She is she's meant to be shinji clone and even younger in the movie if only slightly but they aged her to comic age.Yeah peter's weird as sometimes he's late teen others he's a 30 something. I say best spidey is mid 20s/fresh college grad
Hellrune will be the gay one
>>147086333It'll be Cadet Marvel and you will deal with it.
>>147087416Companies are inconsistent about this sort of thing.
>>147045447I'm guessing spearchicker is actually evil.
>>147047540Fenrir has two kids. Skoll and Hati. Not sure who he You Just Knowed.
>>147088487Hope.He’s straight.Hellrune is lesbian warrior vibes.
>>147084833I'm sure someone will make an edit or image where she takes him into space to watch him die.
>>147051116When will the feral Wolverine kid show up?
>>147081598It's a pretty brilliant tactic. Nobody will want to go near her, though there's good odds someone will punch her for injecting her fetishes.
>>147090400Erista will probably appear in April’s Wolverine #400
>>147080394>when you ask /x/ 'how i summin suckubutt'
>>147087481No way this is real
>>147090480‘Tis real dear anon.
>>147090341>>147088359>People thinking that Steve Foxe, the gay man that makes gay male characters isn't going to make Cadet Marvel the gay one
>>147045447I love it when Marvel and DC make more young coom worthy hotties.
>>147086316Rhodey and Carol have 0 chemistry.
>>147091884They have sexual chemistry
>>147045472>my momsSo his dad is a polygamist? Based.
>>147091425I have never heard of him before, who has he damaged before? If he’s at least making new characters instead of retconning old ones that’s still better,
>>147091425If this has to be done in exchange for making shirtless scenes of him then I will forgive him.
He will fix Gerry Drew through pure boylove which will lead to Carol and Jess getting together
>>147049293>>147050350I mean, if he is black, he could be just saying "Moms" in the AAVE sense, not literally Moms (plural). As in:>My pops used to work at that factory>My moms told me about it
>>147092609You see his two moms when he gets home
>>147045562>Deadly Nightshade's gay cousin Non-Deadly NightshadeUnexpected, but then she did have a glorified cameo in the preceding Spider-Woman series.
>>147045447Most of these literal whos would be cannon fodder in the next event. Totally forgetables.
>>147092707Cadet Marvel is the best actually
>>147090763Hot
>>147045469>Moon SquireI’m out
>>147092430Say what you will about Foxe (I'll go with "unrelentingly mediocre") I don't believe he's ever changed a character's sexuality or done a "this established character is gay now" bit. He has written indie works featuring young gay men and when given the opportunity to create a Spider-verse variant he came up with a gay dude that got bitten instead of Peter (Web Weaver had a crush on "that Parker kid" and pushed him out of the way of the freaky radioactive spider).Here he's writing a bunch of characters from scratch. He certainly could make one of the girls gay or bi, but it would be astonishing if he didn't make one of the guys gay or bi. And since Moon Squire seems to be younger than the others(????) it's more likely to be Cadet Marvel.
Him
>>147094995Can anyone ask the artist if he’s willing to draw a shirtless commission of Cadet? He’s on Insta with DMs open
>>147069258Could be
>>147045447I liked this.
>>147045447where's safe space?
>>147094995Who proposes first, Emilio or Gerry?
>>147097312Gone, reduced to atoms
>>147097312I wonder if the New Champions would have gotten the "New Warriors" name if these fucks didn't exist.
>>147097470What’s going on with Gerry anyway? Is he still brainwashed and way older than he should be with no one remembering him?
>>147099470You'd think that Anya and Madame Web could just repeat what they did to make everyone remember BaileyGerry would still be fully grown, but still there were other people who loved him than his mom who might appreciate the memories back
>>147094995Yes, we know he'll be gay.
>>147099131>if these fucks didn't exist.They literally don't.
>>147099500Gerry was a bad idea to begin with, no one should've given the ok for Hopeless to put his prego fetish in the spider-woman comic.
>>147045449>bothersome crime duoWell at least it wasn't the Wrecking Crew or Serpent Society getting joke jobbed again.
>>147097312Sealed deep within the earth in the vault of very bad ideas along with the rest of the team, except for b-negative because vampire twink was the only good design out of them.
>>147091425I thought that he was the boxer from tekken?
>>147045501Damn, Cadet is strong as shit.
>>147091925prostitutes too...still...
>>147045562Cool
>>147099131I don't think anyone can be the new New Warriors. Not for a very very long time, at any rate. In-universe they're considered the fucktards that were doing Reality Show nonsense and got a suburban paradise nuked. And anyone that think the Warriors got a bum rap wouldn't take kindly to newcomers using the name.
>>147086926Talokan Namor is not latino, he is indigenous representation.
>>147045447>One single (confirmed) black character on this new super team>His super-suit is just a hat and hoodie with a cape and mask thrown on top>Even though the 'urban' look doesn't really match the fact he's from San FranciscoThis vexes me.
>>147103819Glad I wasn't the only one going "uh huh" at that.
>>147047787How has he not gotten them yet?
>>147103819Two black characters including the Wakanda girl. Whose sorcery effects include tiki masks which don't help but still.
>>147104871Peter thinks he is too irresponsible.
