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What's the cartoon equivalent of Gunbuster? Like something showing the dire consequences of time dilatation in space and having a lot of fanservice.
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Not everything anime has a cartoon has a "equivalent", that said, gunbuster is sex
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>>147098516
I might sound like a weeb here, and I am, but frankly I feel like you're asking for a certain level of sophistication and animation quality which simply is not very common to western works for like, the past century. You could maybe ask eastern europeans about having made something similar and even then it will almost certainly not be as cool or have nearly as big of a footprint.
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>>147098543
Why though? When gunbuster released someone at a cartoon studio should have been like "Man, that was interesting! We have to make a similar cartoon in response to it!
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>>147098516
fuck off weeb
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>>147098516
A: there is nothing like gunbuster
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>>147098648
I don't want to move to Japan though. I am just asking a question.
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>>147098516
interstellar
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>>147098867
Have they made an interstellar cartoon adaptation?
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This threads are always terrible. Op is a shitposter
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>>147098904
no...
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>>147098516
Probably Transformers bullshit
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>>147098914
>This threads are always terrible.
My 1st thread though
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>>147098516
Based on your first point of time dilation and its consequences and the Gainaxfag's typical insistence that Disney must have copied their pre-Eva work in some way, Lightyear. No fanservice though.
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>>147099602
>Gainaxfag's typical insistence that Disney must have copied their pre-Eva work in some way
You mean Nadia? I doubt anyone is talking about Appleseed or Otaku no Video being copied by Disney.
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>>147098516
Idk haven’t watched it but since it’s anime Atla is the answer.
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>>147098516
Probably some star trek episode. This ova is so peak.
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>>147098516
>Goonbuster
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>>147100819
Anything wrong with that?
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>>147099021
this. Toy commercial shit
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>>147098516
I don't even think Gunbuster understood how time dilation worked, some thing make sense and others don't
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>>147101938
I'd this about them surviving a ton of time after the bomb?
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>>147098516
>>147098543
I liked how it handled time dilation, but everything else about it was pretty lame.
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>>147099790
Nadia has as much in common with Atlantis the Lost empire as Pirates of the Caribbean has to One Piece.

Any similarity can be explained by both stories taking place in the same-ish victorian era and both being inspired by Jules Verne. And even that is debatable with Nadia, that thing has more to do with ancient aliens that captain Nemo.
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>>147098516

Wasn't that what happened to Rex's older brother in Generator Rex? He only experienced a few minutes of time in space while it was years or a decade for Rex?
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>>147102035
I'm sick of this comparison
Atlantis didn't rip off Nadia, it ripped off Stargate.
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>>147098516
There's no such thing as what you're asking for. Nearly all Western animation is aimed at toddlers and school agers. Those in the minority that don't are all comedies in the vein of Family Guy, South Park, Rick & Morty, Simpsons and Hazbin Hotel.

The West is truly pathetic and, having reflected upon the reality of the above, perhaps the West isn't worth preserving. Too bad the writing system of China & Japan (Hanzi/Kanji) is the worst writing system ever invented or used by mankind. Their writing system alone will forever prevent their global supremacy. So, I guess I'm team Korea.
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>>147098516
Lol I dunno
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>>147102035
People will point to the blue crystals but castle in the sky did that years earlier than Nadia.
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I never understood why the anime (or the giant robot) was called "Gunbuster".

Could it have been an error?
Might they have meant SUNbuster?
That'd have been more appropriate.
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>>147098516
>CHADbuster
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>>147105265
the anime was inspired by top gun
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>>147098516
Lightyear had this as a plot point.
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>>147098516
Most likely Futurama

>>147101938
Anno is a gay incel retard. What else is new?
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>almost 40 years and gunbuster is still the top
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>>147098573
Someone might have thought it but someone else thought they couldn't sell it.
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>>147101956
Gravity affects time, and the bomb created such a massively powerful gravity well that just being near it for a few minutes was 10,000 years outside the once it faded away.

>time dilation is actually real and they have already studied it in orbit around earth with times being slightly off because of the gravity differences
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>>147106152
Because that's what the Aimed For....
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>>147101938
>I don't even think Gunbuster understood how time dilation worked, some thing make sense and others don't

Time is relative to the velocity of the observer.
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>>147104714
Also magical Atlantean crystals as a concept came from Edgar Cayce's writings.
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>>147105886
>Anno is a gay incel retard

He's been married to Myoco Anno for 23 years.
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>>147106197
>>147106152
Kek.
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Diebuster was also really cool. It was different, but I love how its kind of the same in how each episode the stakes get even higher and everything gets even more ridiculous and powerful.
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>>147101938
>>147101938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f1Jx_H2G0U&list=PL5O4ZQou-FEef8aJ-T5iHY6kShtxuRrjJ&index=2

Watch the science lessons, son
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>>147106261
Are there any /co/ va with as powerful screams as the ones Noriko's va produced in this episode?
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>>147098914
rude
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>>147098516
Sex with Noriko!
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>Most of the thread is /a/
FUCK
OFF
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>>147106215
He wanted his colleague's dick but was too much of a pussy to tell him.
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>>147107333
She is hot.
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>>147107700
>>147108054
I will now watch your anime
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>>147107339
Ackshually it's /m/.
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>>147106194
>>147101938
Don't expect "real" science in an anime, a manga, or a comic book.

To achieve a Gamma (time dilation) of, say, 10 also means your mass increases by a factor of 10. And that mass just doesn't come from nowhere. It's the kinetic energy you got from burning fuel.
If you've got a mass of 10 moving forward at near lightspeed (.994987 c) then an equal amount of momentum must have gone in the other direction. The best possible drive would be a photon rocket. Total conversion of mass to energy. The mass-ratio would then be 19.94987. If you intend to brake at some point, that squares to 397.997.

If your drive was "plain" proton-proton fusion, the mass-ratio is an unbelievable 6.7e21.
Essentially, we're never going to have relativistic spacecraft unless much of current physics is dead wrong. Sorry.

A bomb cannot "create" a gravitational field. Doesn't matter if it's mass (before the explosion) or energy (afterwards), the field is the same.
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>>147098516
I did not care for Gunbuster
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>>147108719
Gunbuster didn’t care about you either
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>>147108719
Well you're a moronic sped who can't even speak like an adult human being without relying on tired memes so it's no wonder you have no sense of quality.
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>>147107700
Very hot!
>>147108425
Yay!
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>>147098516
now post the gif version
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>>147110943
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>>147111622
gunBOUNCER
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>>147107700
>tiny men-nipples
why do the japs suck so much at erotica?
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>>147112314
>see a girl with breasts
>think about men

What is actually wrong with you?
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>>147108719
>>147109302
>>147109847
>>147110943
>>147112358
Western comics & cartoons board
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>>147098516
Mézga Aladár's Bizarre Adventures has an episode of them traveling to a superspeed planet without them being affected by it's time speed, which spins so fast that it's sun is seen as a halo, and time goes so fast that they experience people growing up and dying during their short stay.
i considered making a webm, but this board is such a massive inactive shit lately that i better not waste the effort to get zero replies.
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>>147098516
>>147098543
>>147098572
>>147108683
>>147108719
>>147111622
You have to go b/a/ck
>>>/a/
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>>147098516
MLAATR had an episode where the Asian nerd got turned into an old man from spending time in space while everyone else on Earth hasn't even aged a year and it's got a few girls that people consider sexy if that counts.
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Anime is shit
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Anime is based
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Cartoons are better than anime could ever be
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>>147111622
Does time dilation explains how she went from worse of her class, to a medicre soldier to the best pilot with no middle piont?
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If this thread was the other way around on /a/, it wouldn't be tolerated
They hate us
We should hate them back
OP is a faggot
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>>147098516
Does Noriko dig giant robots?
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>>147112405
What show?
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>>147109302
>sperging out this hard
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Weebs are retards with no taste in cartoons at all
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>>147098516
I wish today’s cartoons were half as good as Gunbuster was.
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>>147112606
>like any anime is good or even better then any cartoon
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an other cartoon that might have time dilation but i'm not sure, is Egon & Dönci.
https://youtu.be/vNYX2exi-YE

after finding the golden voyager record, they almost immediately go into space to find Earth, but when they arrive it's already a desolate desert. this might be both due to their velocity and the time the record traveled in space until it reached them.
at the end they also get sucked into a black hole and time goes backwards, so that might also count.
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>>147112606
You can count the amount of decent shows that have come out in the last 5 years on one hand, no one cares about bean faced tranny shit, cartoons need to learn from anime.
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>>147112656
Ironic coming from a weeb when all anime has tranny shit
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>Troon melty
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>weeb melty
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>>147112499
>Bet stupid
>Get called stupid
>Hah he mad
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>>147112670
Kek true
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>>147112692
>you can't have different taste from, you must be stupid!
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>>147098516
Stealth threads ruin the board
Piss off back to /a/
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Ive never seen one good anime
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Anime is tranny shit
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>>147111622
Gainax knows how to prioritize with their animation budget.
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No good anime exist
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>>147112445
Not even in a 1000 of years. HOWEVER, I do think that the average anime is not that much better than the average cartoon. The peaks of anime are unmatched though. Atla is mostly considered as the best written western cartoons yet it would have been just good but not remarkable if it were an anime
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>>147112791
It doesnt matter what a weeb like you thinks is a good cartoon or not
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>>147112791
True.
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>>147112477
are you serious? that's what my post starts with.
Mézga Aladár's Bizarre Adventures - Episode 8 - Rapidia
here:
https://mega.nz/folder/JeoTnAST#voiEuLU1bVtkaVftCASl5g/file/ITBnzYaI
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>>147112812
Not true. Go watch your gay ass isekai slop weeb bitch.
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>>147112474
Yes
>>147112462
>to the best pilot with no middle piont?
She has never reached best pilot status with those little robots but she was chosen to pilot gunbuster because of Coach's trust and she proved herself in the 2nd big alien fight where she basically saved the world all by herself while still not being that much of a competent pilot.
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>>147112812
No lies detected.
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>>147112832
She’s treated like an ace pilot by the end though.
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>>147112791
>The peaks of anime are unmatched though.
>Atla is mostly considered as the best written western cartoons
of course a weeb only knows cartoons from mainstream kid channels. how about you compare to the actual peaks on cartoons?
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Weebs always say that theres only like 5 good cartoons. Then list the most normalfag shit ever. Lmao they dont even watch cartoons then think they can judge quality.
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>>147112856
But they literally stop using the little mecha. She has more experience with piloting the Gunbuster itself than anyone else and even then she needs her onee-sama's assistance.
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>>147108054
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>>147112791
True but it's not fair to judge since they have different animation histories. The west never had someone like Tezuka, Dezaki, Kon etc.
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>>147112890
You can’t pilot a two seater robot with only one person anon.
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Cartoons are just better than anime could ever be. https://youtu.be/mhiKCcylhyY?si=ue11VwDK2RGecNnD
Cow and chicken is more funny than any anime could ever hope.
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>>147112905
The West had guys like them, it’s just the vast majority of them were comic book writers or artists, the only one who was a major figure for animation was Walr Disney.
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>>147112865
>how about you compare to the actual peaks on cartoons?
Like what?
>>147112913
In the last second to last battle you can that Noriko is doing most of the leg work while Kazumi is giving her directions since she has always had a better spirit of observation.
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>>147112965
Yeah. I meant in animation.
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>>147112979
>Like what?
like: king and the mockingbird (speaking of which, it did the mecha concept before Japan), soviet Snow Queen (which inspired the looks of animes too), son of the white mare, heroic times, the tragedy of man, the thief and the cobbler from an animation standpoint, or anything 3D because Japan still doesn't seem capable of making that.
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>>147113170
Japan's CGI is only used to save money on actual 2D animation, they're never gonna get good at it.
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>>147113170
I was thinking more of series but anyways
> king and the mockingbird
Haven’t watched but Nagai has done mecha before the 80s.
> Snow Queen
Pretty good atmosphere and very nice character animation.
> son of the white mare
This one was maybe the best thing you’ve named. The art style reminded me of old balkan ilustarted books that I used to have as a child.
>thief and cobbler
Yeah good animation but I didn’t like it that much.
>heroir times
I haven’t watched it
>anything 3d
That’s just stupid since not all 3d is equal and modern 3d reached the point where it looks so sterile and boring. I am happy that most modern anime movies are still 2d. Anyways overall good list. I will watch the 2 that I haven’t. Still not as good as my favorite animu but europeans are closer to them than americans.
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Anime is trash
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>>147113277
>Haven’t watched but Nagai has done mecha before the 80s.
read the filename, this version was released back in 1952 under the name "the curious adventures of mr wonderbird". the 1980 version looks even better and has more scenes, but i made this webm for it predating mecha in Japan.
>I haven’t watched it
it's a movie from 1984 that is notable for it's painting-esque animation, constant orchestral music which also gives all the sound effects in the movie, and i don't want to spoil the plot but i don't remember another cartoon that so unapologetically leaves the viewers in such a mood.
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>>147113420
Anime is garbage lol
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>>147098516
Samurai Jack.
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>>147113420
Based
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Name one anime that is better than courage the cowardly dog
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>>147113515
Boku no pico.
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>>147113519
Of course the weeb says gay shota porn is better than a wholesome cartoon like courage. Weebs are pathetic.
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>>147113519
Kek
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>>147113441
> read the filename, this version was released back in 1952 under the name "the curious adventures of mr wonderbird".
My bad, I’ve missed that.
> it's a movie from 1984 that is notable for it's painting-esque animation, constant orchestral music which also gives all the sound effects in the movie, and i don't want to spoil the plot but i don't remember another cartoon that so unapologetically leaves the viewers in such a mood.
Interesting. I’ll watch it.
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>>147113539
Of course the cartoonshitter says “horror” animal abuse is better than wholesome gay shota porn. Cartrooners are pathetic.
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>>147113277
you forgot the tragedy of man by the way.
if you want unique but purposeful animation, you can see Bubble Bath or Háry János too, if you want more recent cartoon "heights" you can see Toldi (adaptation of the same thing as Heroic Times) and Four Souls of Coyote, or if you want 3D heights go watch Egon & Dönci.
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>>147113559
>animal abuse
Iirc courage saves the day everytime unlike how in most anime it would try to be as edgy or sexual as possible
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>>147112656
>bean faced tranny shit
As opposed to flat-faced tranime shit?
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>>147112656
It’s a shame how much cartoons have fallen, anime still looks good if a bit generic nowadays but now cartoons are all ugly mass produced calarts slop.
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>>147113578
I see. I’ll check some of them out when my schedule gets a little less busy.
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>>147113600
>anime looks good
Lol
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>>147113600
True.
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>>147113584
>tfw this was made of a cope because everyone was making fun of that shitty western game
Kek
>>147113600
Do they even make cartoons nowadays? Each network seems to produce 10% cartoons as they used to even 10 years ago.
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>>147113634
Maybe if you watched cartoons you'd know
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>>147113634
Yeah, a lot fewer of them then before though, there used to be a lot more just 2 decades ago, animation output has really shriveled up lately.
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>>147113580
> be as edgy
Don’t worry bro there are plenty of kodomo anime where they just save the day without edginess just for you.
> sexual
Yet you niggers still draw lewd fanart of some of the least sexual characters ever like the courage female cast.
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>>147113659
The female courage cast is more sexy than anime anime bitch anyway. So i dont really see a problem with that.
Also no theres no non edgy or sexual anime. I would know i watched anime for years before i realized its all the same shit.
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>>147113680
>anime anime
>ESL
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>>147113692
>anime anime
>esl
Not an argument weeb!
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Weeb trash should be contained to /a/
Where they can argue which dumpsterfire anime they like together and unchallenged.
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>>147103611
>Korea
Go look at the birth rates
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>>147113680
> The female courage cast is more sexy than anime anime bitch anyway
Yeah maybe if you are retarded. Noriko is sexier than everyone in courage( which is being helped by how vivid the paint is used in the animu)
> Also no theres no non edgy or sexual anime. I would know i wat
Princess tutu is not edgy but itms sexual and that’s a good thing. I love me some natural sexiness. There is no cartoon like Princess tutu(even though it uses european motifs)
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Imagine seething like a BITCH for 2 hours over this thread, could NOT be me.
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>>147107339
>>147112408
Cry harder, scream cry if you have to.
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>>147113719
>There's no cartoon like my weeb garbage nobody watched
Good
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>>147113726
Imagine making off topic threads and begging people to watch anime instead of good cartoons
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>>147113745
Sir, you are suffering from copehillis. May I recommend you some medicine? It’s called closing the tab and doing something else until you calm down.
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>>147113772
Kek
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>>147113772
How about you fuck off
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>>147113770
The thread would have unironically died if you had stopped your rage.
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>>147113814
It’s funny because he’s too stupid to realize it, he keeps bumping the thread and keeping it at the top instead of ignoring it so it just stays alive longer.
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>>147113814
Think i give a shit retarded weeb trash?
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>>147113825
Only thing that's funny is how bad anime is
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>>147098839
Fuck you and fuck your threads you parasitic retard
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>>147098543
FPBP
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Gunbuster is such a bad show that weebs are desperate to find a cartoon equivalent. Knowing deep down that cartoons are superior.
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>>147113814
And he just keeps on going lmaoooooo
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>>147113634
>tfw this was made of a cope because everyone was making fun of that shitty western game

Which in itself was a cope because western H-games are more popular on here. So it's a never-ending cycle of cope.
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>>147113600
>anime still looks good
2% of anime looks good. The rest is even worse than the worst calarts dogshit.
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>>147113968
2% is still better than 0% which are cartoons. Btw this show was pure indie sovl even if it looked bad.
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>>147113968
Ain’t that one of those CGI series where CGI is used just as a cost cutting measure?
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>there is no cartoon without edginess but with sexiness.
right
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>>147113982
>the weeb thinks any anime looks better than cartoons
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>was pure indie soul
It was puked up fucked up retard dog-slop shit-smear, that only faggots and retards thought was good. Which of the 2 were you?
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>>147113992
I haven’t said that. I said that there is no cartoon like princess tutu.
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>>147114008
How did CN let Genndy get away with this?
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>>147113719
Princess tutu is just generic anime shit with a child's ballerina training theme.

>Princess tutu is not edgy but itms sexual and that’s a good thing
Oh, well, of course you love Princess Tutu, you're a pedophile.
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>>147113994
>reading comprehension
>>147114008
Calm down bro or you might pop a vein. You weren’t on 4chan back when kf was airing.
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Weebs have no argument for saying anime is good without resorting to sexy stuff and blood.
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>>147114017
>there is no cartoon like princess tutu.
of course, because there is nothing like a thing unless it's the thing itself, except you don't make a point by that.
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>>147114035
> Princess tutu is just generic anime shit with a child's ballerina training theme.
I know you can bait better. If it’s so generic then why isn’t there a cartoon like it?
> pedophile
Duckophile.
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>>147114039
I was on 4chan back in 2012.
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>>147114060
No cartoons are generic like every single anime.
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>>147114060
>If it’s so generic then why isn’t there a cartoon like it?
Angelina Ballerina. And it's better written too.
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>>147114060
you still didn't explain what "like it" means. you want a ballerina cartoon? there is a 3D movie literally called Ballerina.
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Didn't Gainax make this?
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>>147114088
He means a cartoon where preschoolers are sexualized.
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>>147114093
Yeah.
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>>147114050
Of course I wasn’t talking about it being literally that but soemthing with beautiful european inspired backgrounds and motifs, great character witing, interesting drama, themese regarding creation, fairy tales, balletb and the absolute fantastic second half that gives such an emotional and beautiful conclusion to the story. There are cartoons like that but it’s above the paygrade of most of them.
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>>147114104

Thought so.
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>>147114108
>anome better than any cartoon at all in any way
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>>147114074
> Angelina Ballerina.
Doesn’t that have a book? I remember reading something like it but lol “better writing”. Explain how.
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>>147114120

Anime has hotter females.
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>>147114120
>anome
>ESL
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>>147114136
Doesnt matter if none of the shows are good
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>>147114140

Some of them have hot girls AND are good.
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I am going to sleep. Noriko won this thread. Even after 12000000 years people have never forgotten her while the samefagging mad fag itt will never have a lasting legacy.
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>>147114136
Only if you like dead fish faced anime eyes.
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>>147114159
>Noriko
Who?
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>>147114160

Oh, you didn't even try.
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>>147114160
Gintoki is so cool man…
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>>147114173
Yea, these are attractive and don't look like ugly lifeless dolls one bit!
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>>147114211

Ya gotta go more recent, man. Plenty of hot anime babes in the last 20 years or so.

Hot anime DEMON babes.
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>>147114211
Getting some real "nightmare fuel" vibes from bottom left.
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>>147114233
My left or your left?
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>>147114222
I can't take weebs seriously when they say anime girls are attractive since they all think Nami is hot, when she's drawn like absolute shit.
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>>147114256

Oh, god no, not One Piece. Never One Piece.
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>>147114108
>beautiful european inspired backgrounds and motifs
>themese regarding creation,
>fairy tales,
go watch Hungarian Folk tales for those. if you listed sexiness too it would still work.

>great character witing, interesting drama, themese regarding creation,
>and the absolute fantastic second half
go watch Pangea TV for those.
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This is now a Tink thread.
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>>147114298
Tink is under appreciated in her time.
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>>147114136
i much prefer cartoon females, but also every female in anime just looks like Jucika.
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>>147114274
> go watch Hungarian Folk tales
I literally grew u with those. You are not telling me anything new.
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>>147114108
>beautiful european inspired backgrounds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AByGsn900qk
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>>147114353
There is no female cartoon character that I like as much as Shinobu Mariko(very few anime ones as well) but not just because of her design. Her character is my ideal woman. She is perfect.
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>>147114432
Really?
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>>147114445
yes
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I don't watch any Euro animation because it's all extremely boring and everyone I've ever met who likes them has been a giant cunt, including the actual Euros on /co/.
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i hope this design gets exactly like this in the upcoming movie, then finally weebs can be countered with recent examples.
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>>147114353
No, every female in anime looks like a humanoid anthro cat.
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>All these weebs simping for Japanimation this hard.
Today I will remind them
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>>147113441
>painting-esque animation
Damn that looks cool, thanks for the rec
Any other movies like this?
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>>147112791
>small island nation's output compared to that of the entirety of the west
Which western nation's animation is the greatest rival to anime?
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>>147108683
B-B-B-B-B-B-BUT IT WOULDNT HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE. MUH HECKIN SCIENCE!!

This is giant robots, man. Yelling loud enough with enough self confidence can bend and break reality itself to achieve your goals. I aint gotta explain shit.
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>>147114274
Was this made for kids? Also no vag that's disappointing.
>>147114557
Who's this?
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>>147098516
she cute
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>>147117731
She's not /co/
She'll never be /co/
She doesn't belong here
She never will and anyone who insists otherwise is a moron
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>>147117785
:(
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>>147115812
>>small island nation's output compared to that of the entirety of the west
Well no shit, like >>147112905 said. japan had so many important figures to contribute to their output. The best of their animated series surpasses everything in the west in terms of writing and direction.
>Which western nation's animation is the greatest rival to anime?
Nowadays? Maybe France. Throughout the history you have america, soviet russia, France, some of the Balkan countries doing some great animation.
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>>147115694
Sovl but unironically no one is saying bad anime doesn't exist. They are all saying that some anime are fantastic and at a level no western studio would care to replicate.
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>>147098516
>>147107700
>>147108054
>>147111622
Gunbuster? More like Nutbuster.
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>>147098516
Lightyear unironically
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>>147112832
>Coach's trust
Favoritism
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>>147121231
She worked hard for it though.
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Is it really necessary to tell yourselves ''Japan actually isn't better'' like every single day?
Westoids seem to be legit blind to their own western centric biases when it comes to Japan
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>>147115812
>small island nation's output compared to that of the entirety of the west
this is very disingenuous considering that the entire asia's cartoon output combined is not much bigger than Japan's alone.
calling it "small island nation" is also disingenuous considering that Japan's population is bigger than every western country's except USA and Russia. and also Brazil but they are half monkeys.
meanwhile most of the recommendations in this thread are from Hungary, which is more than 10 times smaller than Japan.
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>>147121231
She worked to earn the coach’s trust.



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