>Angela is avenged>Gaiman lostPretty good day, Todd
>>147131562She's owned by Marvel still and has a terrible redesign, I'd say Todd won, Gayman got what he had coming, but in the end but Angela lost as a character
>>147131575>>147131562Todd only wins if Angela returns to Spawn & Image
Can somebody explain the Gaiman Angela Todd drama so I know better?
She should've been given to DC so she can lez out with WW.
>>147131648tl;dr Gaiman sued Todd over Angela since he created her as a guest writer for Spawn and said Todd had been holding out on him He won the court case and sold her to Marvel, supposedly on the cheap, as a fuck you to Todd.
>>147132456Shut up, Diana isn't a dyke
>>147131562>>147131645>>147131575Only Marvel won in this game, Angela (not that that's much) and Gaiman's part in Miracleman.
>>147132759So they can use Miracleman now?
They should turn Angela into Ghost Rider support
>>147133428With him going to jail?Yes, as Angela not being a lesbo anymore and given to the new Ghost Rider Editorial.
>>147131575Marvel was probably losing money on miracle man considering the pain in the ass it was to get it back. They assumed they’d get an evergreen watchmen book but it never sold that well.Marvel should sell Angela back to Todd since they won’t use her anymore since it’s connected to Neil
Todd should have only did the Marvel statues if they gave him back Angela
Make Angela Straight Again
>>147133466>>147133469Forever stained by being Thor's sister
>>147134315No one remembers the thor shit anymore, and all it takes is a pen to retcon all of that shit.Also Todd would be the first to do a GR comic if he had agency over Angela, Johnny and Akihiro.Mainly because a Hellverine MacFarlane Toys statue would sell in a few hours
>>147133428A long time ago, Marvel bought the rights from the character's creator, Alan Moore exchanged the rights he had for Marvel to help the character's creator(Marvel cannot use Alan Moore's name, so when Marvel relaunched Miracleman , is as "Original Writer" instead of Alan Moore) and Neil Gaiman was in this fight with Todd.Marvel even released a short story based on a Morrison script from the 80s, but Morrison only released it because Guesada drew it.
>>147131648There is a spaniard comicbook blog that expalin that trail in 10 parts, is a trial about Todd reclaming Venom to Marvel, then at the middle Neil Gaiman appers and uses Todd arguments to apply a "reverse trail" about Angela
Angela is a shit character that doesn't work outside her own series and is otherwise just a discount Sif. I still don't get why marvel even wanted her.
>>147135292Yep. Short term sales spike from the publicity? Amazed she got so many solo issues 2bf
Angela is straight now?
>>147136562Soon
>>147133758Todd should do Angela statues so he can laugh about how Todd isn't entitled to any money from it.
>>147133715All they made were reprints. It literally cost them nothing but law clerks fees, the money they make off of 1602 trades was probably enough to fund everything.
>>147137993So?
>>147131562>could have been used to represent/explore Heavenly stuff, something which Marvel has barely done outside of GR and random one-offs like Purgatory Punisher and PAD's Scarlet Spider>instead is shoehorned into Thor (the type of "angel" she is is just another type of Asgardian) and relegated almost entirely to space stuff
>>147138970And lesbian
>>147131575This, nobody who likes the character is celebrating, she's already ruined forever
I don't think they will be using this character for a long time. She might get vaulted like Big Hero 6 or sold. It's not like they did much with her anyway. What a waste.
>>147139739Marvel doesn't sell anything. She will just sit on a shelf forever like Crossgen and the Ultraverse
>>147131562Changing the the look of the eyes was such a mistake. Where they not allowed to use her original design? >>147133466I don't think they know what to do with her. >>147134459Making her Thor's sister was such a weird choice because that makes her important but they don't know where to stick her so it feels weirder when she's not around.
>>147135292Decent chance their was someone there who wanted to spite Todd
>>147138970They don't want to go too heavily on religious stuff like that
>>147139739Apparently she might get into rivals
>>147139932Garth Ennis did and he is an hero
>>147139951What kinda stuff? I read that originally Angela was supposed to be more of a crossover character with her getting the phoenix force and stuff like that. Maybe they could have tried turning her into their Wonder Woman.
>>147139995Ennis wrote Wormwood and Preacher and Hellblazer that insulted religion and Christ, if they don't let an Angel being a cute girl it prove they're just evil
>>147139898Why not focus her on Angel part?Angel part in Marvel world is kinda underutilised, even GR only focus on demon
>>147140027>>147140059I don't think marvel cares what their writers are artists do when not working for them unless they're racist or antisemitic. Marvel is weird and inconsistent with stuff like that. They have angels that have fought and aided Ghost Rider so j don't know why they had to invent a knew realm
>>147140467There are 8 hells currently
>>147140059Like someone else said, the Marvel version isn't a real angel, just some kind of Asagrdian bird person.
>>147140467>They have angels that have fought and aided Ghost Rider so j don't know why they had to invent a knew realmProbably to replace Thor
>>147131562If you want to laugh, imagine her costume in the MCU
>>147141898T shape basketball texture
