What's an acceptable amount of fanservice in cartoons and comics to youWhen is it too much, post any examples
>>147133076>too muchno such thingmore is always better
>>147133076source?
>>147133126Are you blind?
>>147133158anon...
>>147133076Ass should be fatter
>>147133728i need the comic equivalent of this
>>147133076That's a real nice page, sauce?
>>147133076People calling comics woke when they see this page
>>147133076waiting for you to show some. all I see is ugly
>>147133171but he's right. it's literally made to be unsexy as possible. I recognize that nucomic artstyle that is tumblrish in todays comics
>>147133076Maybe it's because I am gay but this does not seem too much for me
>>147133842It's from the new Storm. Lucas Werneck is the artist. He likes drawing women.
>>147133076Very nice. Would be better if it was white lingerie though.
>>147133935You're also fucking blind then.
>>147134812I just come from an era of sexy bitches
What does she need hidden knives for? She's fucking Storm.
>>147134834Just your usual feminist writing. Though to be fair, it's not a bad thing to have a melee weapon in tight spots.
>>147133076Literally no such thing as too much fanservice.
>>147134850Fucking based.
>>147133076Too much would be like in fire force where the repetitive ENF gag undercuts serious dramatic moments
>>147133126>>147133935Are you fucking psychotic?Pic related is Tumblr style art.The OP is 50 million times better.>>147134499Which series was this?
>>147133158>>147133189SOURCE???>>147133783Source? ? ? ? ?
>>147134958The OP is tumblr style too.
>>147134981You are fucking delusional or gaslighting.Either way, fuck the hell off.
>>147134787
>>147133076Naked tits and butt.and that's good.
>>147135005>upset cause he got fooled by the tumblr style
>>147135155>>147134787I've seen hentai with similar premise.
>>147133076That's fucking mediocre fanservice.
>>147134844>it's not a bad thing to have a melee weapon in tight spots."Storm""Tight spots"You don't even care that it was Storm you were applying this to, did you?
>>147135905What is Storm really going to do in a melee situation with little space and cut off from the elements?
>>147135155MUH DICK
>>147133076Lee and Miller in ASBAR is the acceptable amount
>>147136501So ass shots and moderate cleavage?
when ya tryna have a serious scene but its male gazey with the focus on T n A then its too much
>>147136739talk like a human and not like a fucking ape
I will be crystal clear since autistic lefties use what I am calling "weaponized ambiguity" there are approved bodytypes that are not sexually attractive like OPs and that is because they are tracing over unnatractive women and not exaggerating the attractive proportions IE the breasts, waist, and hips, and they do this knowingly on purpose. The existence of skimpy outfits, the existence of lingerai, does not appeal to someone who likes Jim Lees art style for instance. Jim Lees art has been house style for the last decade or more, you cant say he is sexist, he is untouchable, thats why its a good example. His women are attractive and he stylistically exaggerates the key proportions ive highlighted. OPs woman, though realistic, has shoulders of a linebacker and average looking bust and waist, and if I point that out a bunch of unhinged psychos are going to pretend OPs image is the hottest thing ever to le debunk me and you have others ITT posting literal fridges as good examples of sexy art like were blind. The tactic is if you actually point out anything I just said then you get shamed as le coomer incel etc etc etc what they actually find offensive is Jessica Rabbit or anything resembling her because she is unobtainable for women whereas the approved bodytypes like OP are not seen that way and therefor are not offensive. Busty women exist in reality, you cant have superheroes with ideal bodies and ignore this fact about reality. Then again in Dc and Marvels reality 40% of the population is gay so that is what they wish to portray>>1471367392 seriously hot women in skimpy outfits in a room will naturally strike hot poses just by standing around, so the artist isnt at fault for depicting it. They also do ass shots of the men but those go ignored.
>>147136810ahh the french
>>147136785>shoulders of a linebackerI don't know, she just looks big, not broad. The angle's all sideways, I can't see shit behind that Instagram pose.
>>147136681There were decent tits too
>>147134499Marvel had to change the art in this book due to being to sexy>>147134958Jason aarons King Conan
>>147136739soul
>>147136739everyone on this page looks like they walked out of a sex dungeon.
>>147133076Any level is "acceptable". The only thing that changes is whether it's an adventure or a porn. This is not an issue of acceptability, but rather a matter of proper sorting.
>>147133076which issue is this so that i may own it.
>>147133076It varies depending on the work and placement in the work. Does it get in the way of the story, setting, or tone? If no, then it's fine.
>>147133076Well that's not enough>>147134499Should have been a thong in the back but otherwise very good
>>147134968Kennichi greatest disciple of history or something like that
>>147135155Could you shoop the mirror reflection too?
>>147136739You don't understand, the ass shot is helping this deep argument
>>147137412That face is a nightmare
>>147133076how the hell is her side profile visible in the mirror. these artists are fucking retarded.
>>147133862>>147133126NAH....probably learnt anatomy, or traced a reference photo.
>>147136810We HAVE the production stills. Could we edit this scene back to it's original uncut duckless glory?
>>147136810>>147138266https://e-hentai.org/g/2339776/bc90d73fa7/
>>147134499What's this from?
>>147135155Man that's so much better. The contrast form the outfit is so good.
>>147137763
>>147138997dude spoiler that shit next time ew
not enough sexy men
>>147139044Bobby...
>>147139044/co/...
Dofus Book of Julith - Jurgen Bakara
>>147133076I want Xterminators art about 20% of the time.The other 80% can be House styles, artsy stuff like Aja Hawkeye, whatever is approved, I don't care, just give me some Jubilee legs, Boob Boom Boobs and Dazzler Booty 20% of the time
>>147138811muy bueno
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>>147138811Ah, much better.
>>147135245no naked pussy?
>>147133076At the very least, this should be the minimum breast size for all supervillain women
>all comics poster are from 2000suncle thread
>>147133076The issue with fanservice is that sadly, critics have a point (to a certain extent) - the act alone of men sexualizing women isn't LE MALE GAZE, men are free to make women as sexy as they want.The actual problem is when a work removes agency from the female characters when it comes to being sexualized - this can be literal like taking a modest or mildly suggestive female character, and then randomly giving her the equivalent of a porn star outfit or a barely legal bikini with shitty justifications as to why. Or it can be literal where the camera angles are framing the women in a voyeuristic fashion which comes across as self-indulgent at best, and uncomfortable at worst - and again, there is no believable justification for it. THAT is Le Male Gaze.
>>147141855Remind me of Quite
>>147133076I think people are okay with sexy outfits if it's fit the character. Also perhaps if the body proportion is good (not overly exaggerated like Your Storm picture).
>>147141993but she breaths through her skin! so she has to dress like that
>>147141993>>147142078On another note i genuinely hate how all the actually cool cosmetics for your DD operatives are locked in MGO, cant be a proper Ocelot unit guy with the cool cape and hat.
>>147142078I will regret my words and deeds.
Depends on the tone of the work, if you're writing some very serious work for very serious people, it'll probably be ill fitting. If you're writing cheeky fun that has a bunch of shit like that, then you can probably go as far as you want.>>147142030>not overly exaggaratedFirstly, how is she overly exaggerated? She's honestly a pretty realistic bodytype.Secondly, why not if it fits the artstyle?
>>147141993It's so fucking stupid from a practical standpoint. But I like big boots juxtaposed against tiny women so...
>>147142755>I like big boots juxtaposed against tiny womenReminds you of your mom, eh?
>>147141993>>147142755Honestly they should've gone with something closer to the other Parasite females, it makes a lot more sense if she's wearing some tailor made prototype battlesuit than dressing like a Ukrainian Hooker who just got trafficked to Downtown LA.
>>147133076Reminder that xitter is going crazy over this, they love sexuality and all the ugly comics from the past ten years will have zero cultural impact
>>147134834zapping someone with lightning in close quarters can be risky, not to mention it draws a lot of attention.
>>147133126>fatfag
>>147134958what in gods name am I looking at
>>147136739I collect panels like this lmao
>>147142755>>147141993Quiet's an interesting case where her design alone is actually pretty solid (kek) and it being sexy isn't the problem (MGS is no stranger to having mysterious dangerous women in sexy swimsuits), it's that the justification that the story gives is crappy (on top of it being a corporate mandate by Konami to have more overt sex appeal), and it's a symptom of a much bigger problem with MGSV's consistent tonal/attitude clash, especially when compared to the tone/attitude of Ground Zeroes.Kind of a shame, really. In a different world, Quiet, swimsuit and all, would have been universally accepted had MGSV fully embraced being an insane pulpy 80s movie but instead we got the worst timeline where V wants to be edgy/grim for its own sake, yet won't commit to either side of the aisle
>>147139044Based.
>>147133076showing the cute girl gaping pussy up front without censor would be a decent amount of fanservice
>>147142623This. Occasionally people like to bitch about examples like Kill La Kill, DxD, or High School of the Dead for having fan service and sexy women, but they always get shut down because all three are very clearly meant to be over the top and exaggerated from the very start. It's like getting mad at a clown for being funny even though you hate clowns.>>147139044in all seriousness, most terminally online women would stop screeching about MUH MALE GAZE if stuff made by/for men remembered to pander to women in the right way>more romance between straight couples>sex/flirting/teasing between men and women>men tied up/shirtless>men's costumes that show off shoulders, necks, backs, hands, abs, waists, wrists, butts>voyeuristic shots - but also of men's bodies
>>147142919I feel like capeshit needs to take more cues from stuff like Kill la Kill, JJBA, Bleach, DMC - the art of "cool sexy" is lost on a lot of western media"cool sexy" is like how racecars and motorcycles are sexy - sexualization is apparent, but the emphasis is on power, awe, style - it may be skimpy and show off skin, but it should evoke a fashion model wearing a bizarre outfit on the runway but a lot of western creatives really can't do that - it's either just "supermodel sexy" or "pornstar sexy" where objectification rules the former, and total fetishism rules the latter
>>147133076fanservice is always more pleasureable than no fanservice, but an actually good plot is best. Fanservice is sugar added to bread. The better bread is fresh, but suggar makes it sweet. In todays climate it has the added benefit of implying you're not going to directly condescend and insult your male audience, and don't find their heterosexuality and masculinity inherently predatory, evil and toxic. It indicates more than boner fuel, at lest in this current obnoxious political climate of malicious pseudo intellectuals.
>>147143245yes fucking yes I just want sexy men as well. also I wish artists would draw some vascularity because it's hot
>>147133076>What's an acceptable amount of fanservice in cartoons and comics to you?As much as the author wants.
>>147136739Ahhh the good old days.
>>147143163Literally ass of a middleschool boydisgusting
>>147144094ikr lolnot one of the more impressive ones in my collection, that's for sure
speaking of butt shots, I swear there's like 50 across the entirety of Venom: Separation Anxiety. just one of many reasons why I love it
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>>147133076There's something about this that's really distasteful. Maybe it's the fact that every issue so far hits the reader over the head with how elegant and wise, tough and cunning Ororo is, to the point it's more "tell" than "show". We're being told to find her sexy, tastefully of course, before moving on to the next fashion showcase. It's insulting.
Is she not showing enough? Do you want her naked with her pussy lips in full viewer? Are you retarded?
>>147144171Post your favourites
>>147142919It's because Storm is black and they see it as empowering. The same people were mad over Savage Land Rogue for being "obviously" fanservice.
>>147133076I think fanservice is overrated
>>147133076I've always thought fan service was cringe and that you can just jerk off if you're in the mood for that, but now that the government is cracking down on banning porn, I guess you guys win.
>>147144131>captcha: AMG4Ylol
She's actually really hot in this, like holy shit.
>>147146487>hotdont see it
>>147146680It's fine if you're gay, we understand.
>>147146766Im very much straight. Im just not into animals.
>>147146487
>>147133126>anon is literally blind
>>147135155An anon of culture and taste.
>>147147082>stretch marksEw. This is the body version of the dictum that every extra face line adds 10 years.
The classic boob window
>>147146487She’s not because she’s wearing Doom’s colors.
>>147147928*hotfuck’s sake
>>147147808soul
>>147146766Disney Princess doesn't really work on her.
>>147146487>Thinks those stupid poofy sleeves can die>Reads the issue>Doom killing the pastry chef because she didn't respond perfectly to the desert>She uses her powers when she supposedly made a pact not to; dies as a result>A ghost of her dad brings her back from the deadThis is fucking why nobody fucking respects comics. You can have the hottest woman ever wearing the clothes and underwear of an even hotter woman but your dick goes flaccid because the writing is the stupidest shit ever written. It is worse than porn because porn doesn't try to be this stupid. You can choose porn and not hate the writing in the process and in most cases this shit is so fucking bad porn has an incredibly higher chance of being better written. Some editor read this garbage and thought, "Yeah that's okay" and some editor hired that editor and everyone involved in this production except the artist should be fired.
>>147134833Holy based
We need more extended ENF sequences and panty shots in mainstream comics
>>147134833>sexy bitchesEveryone on that page looks like Clayface.
>>147148128The modern audiences Marvel panders to don't give a shit about character development or plot. They care their favorite character is shipped with the right hot dude or girl, that they are portrayed as empowered, and that they have the right politics. They could spend the whole number watching TV and eating pastries talking about how trump is bad and they'd think it's superb writing. In the case of characters like Storm, they're pleased with the idea that she's "Omega". It means she's superior than others, hence, the best. How she uses this power is irrelevant, she has something other mutants don't, meaning she's special, meaning she's a good character.
>>147147937That's not her dress, she's wearing Rogue's colors, she's the one with Doom colors.
I don't mind fanservice, but I think it's funny when fans of certain characters don't want to admit that the only way for those characters to sell is when they are fanservice. E.g. Savage Land Rogue.
>>147133871Faggot detected
>>147136810amazing
>>147144266What the fuck are you on about, take your meds.
>>147138811>>147135155That's just Storm
>>147148977Who did you think it was
>>147133096Wasn't there some controversy in the 2000s where there was a gratuitous ass shot while Black Mask was torturing someone (one of the Batgirls?) with a fucking power drill? Idk Anon, that sounds like too much fanservice to me.
>>147149089I mean it's her color scheme. At least black lingerie is somewhat unexpected y'now.
>>147149092oooooooohsomeone post it
>>147133076
>>147133076LMAOIt's only one page of her in lingerie and almost 10 years with her wearing black pants and white pants at the end appears a safe horne leotard lol and no matter who the penciller is, he can never draw Storm with fat ass hips
>>147149092>>147149197oh wow, it's fucking nothingmeanwhilehttps://files.catbox.moe/053lzt.png
>>147149103She also has black uniforms.This is like when Betsy was trying to seduce Scott with a bathing suit despite it was the same size as her then current uniform.
>>147133076One Piece level of fanservice should be the norm in comics. It should also have loli fanservice.
>>147149543fuck off, pedo
>>147149249Classic
>>147143163See, this tracks because the narration is in part about Emma's sexual desirability. Emphasizing her ass, juxtaposed with Shaw (?) sitting their brooding and shirtless, works. The Titans scene doesn't because the protagonists are grappling with a complex issue that bothers all of them, but then there's a shot of Starfire's fantastic ass. It would work if she was flirting with Robin, or someone was commenting on how hard it is to get anything done with a mega-sexy alien princess flouncing around.
>>147149060so it'd be Hawk and Hawk Two?? Eh...not feeling it.
>>147149694You get it. It's a matter of time and place.
>>147148818Why do you always get defensive about your sexuality in thee threads?
>>147133076Storm has looked hotter many times fully clothed than this safe horny crap. It doesn't matter what she's wearing if the artist can't draw sexy.
>>147148809
>>147149249Great ass.
>>147143245>most terminally online women would stop screeching about MUH MALE GAZE if stuff made by/for men remembered to pander to women in the right wayNo they wouldn't. They'd still piss and moan about women being exploited while salivating over the guys without a hint of self-awareness. Woman are the epitome of "rules for thee, not for me."
>>147133076No assNo titsLooks like RupalYeah another Disney tranny shit
>>147151622Found the homosexual.
Men have literally went to war with cheesecake painted on their vehicles and carrying them around in their gear. There's no such thing as too much.
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>>147133076Those uncovered knives are going to cut into her ass.
Do women (Gen Z and younger Millenials) still buy lingerie these days? You'd think in these uncertain times it would be the first kind of spending to go.
>>147133076none. no amount of fanservice is acceptable. read the bible you heathens.
>>147141855There's nothing wrong with that, though.
>>147133076A book like Tarot.
>>147152874I had the same thought.
>>147134499>bottom left panel is the least lewdThat's how you know you've got a top-tier fanservice outfit
>>147152192Cool cover, would never have guessed it was from the 1920s - maybe her head would've given it away
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>>147153078Okay, lets see about this Songs of Songs..
>>147139044Get out faggot.
>>147133076sexy = good
>>147137753thanks bro
>>147142736You know what's funny? If I weren't familiar with this, I'd probably assume these characters were supposed to be mother and son based on this gif.>>147143307I never thought about it that way before, but I have to say I agree with you.
>>147133076stop being a faggot
>>147133783There's plenty outside the big two
>>147136785anon you're gay. you can be attracted to both busty women and also women who are not busty.
>>147142736Straight shota is the best
>>147149249>>147152852
>>147133076CHRIIIST
>>147151622This, Storm have been drawn without any butt, the most famous black woman in comics doesn't have a butt, lol and she doesn't even wear a leotard in her own comic book, it doesn't sell and it's canceled and she doesn't know why, think about the new Marvel Rivals who will read these comics with zero cheesecake?
>>147135155That's a man
>>147133076Only if men has equal or more treatment
>>147151907You are the guy who are licking Ororo who looks like Rupal
>>147151907Shut up.
>>147134834Could be a good conduit when fighting something whose outer body resists electricity. Just stab them and use the metal to get the zaps where they hurt the most.
>>147154509shit, that's actually a good point. I don't think the Puritans would disagree with it either. Ever read Edward Taylor's meditations? It gets absurdly graphic. Still, I think there's a difference between the use of erotic imagery in general, and that which is meant to incite lust in particular.
>>147149455Take me back...
>>147138811
>>147152874What ass?
>>147135155
>>147134834gatortards not even being aware of major parts of Storm’s character.
>>147157747Still trying to make that a thing?
>>147156717And yet, her current solo that's her running around Savage Land in small clothes is really meh.
>>147133076>sit down>stab assWhat the fuck is that dagger placement
>>147158386The writer doesn't know how guns in general work, just like the Klingon Bat'leth that pointed backwards.
>>147151190People always seem to gloss over the hypocrisy of "The male gaze" statement as soon as you point out the metric fuck tons of women eye candy.
>>147134958Kek is this from back when Kanye went Death Con 3 on JEWISH people?
>>147159256That was a great mini-arc.
>>147161284
Mogged by Rogue
>>147133076it should happen at least as often as the narrative wanders into it.character changing clothes? lets see itdont have speech bubbles come out of a closed door.pov behind the character? then draw her butt welldont intentionally draw her butt bad to not look like a nerd.
>>147137023yes we have to make sure the people who dont like or buy comics arent offended
>>147151190Man, the amount of shit she got for this post made me think maybe Twitter wasn't COMPLETE dogshit.
>>147163324Rogue needs a collar to control her powers nowadays?
>>147144158Bruh, that's straight nipple lol
>>147146853Oh, so you're retarded. Got it.
>>147133076That's hot but those knives are dumb
>>147163529Jubilee is 13-15 here, btw
>>147163529No. In that same run (Rogue and Gambit 1) she managed to learn how to control them finally. She's been ok since then. No idea if she's got a relapse, but as for uxm, she's fine.
>>147163571Wasn't Kitty in some sexy peril a few times back in the day, too?
>>147163621is that really a naked jubilee
>>147163846Of course.
>>147163869nice
>>147161284 Whose the golden woman with antlers?
>>147163907Some Hickman OC from the start of his Avengers run.
>>147163340>Ah! Gambit! The sheet! C'mon!>Well SOMEONE tonight is going to see my dick, and this is your fault!
>>147165162lel
>>147163942Great ass.
>>147163942Does she have a name
>>147163540you see that from time to time
>>147166382Ex NihilaI had forgotten how much world building Hickman did before he decided to just make Doom a god over a patchwork world.
>>147165162All the X-ladies have seen his dick thanks to Jean hiring a shapeshifter as a stripper for Polaris.
>>147167044Yeah, she and her brother and the other super beings really go the shaft. I think some of them are still around, though I know the Starbrand they introduced has been replaced a few times now. I think Nightmask is still running around. Also he's serving as the meat in a sex sandwich, Alucard style.
