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This was endgame
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You're my endgame anon, now come here~
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>>147133284
Finncel spotted
He never was going to get pussy and his relationship prospects will always be the butt of the joke(just like (YOU))
Cry about it
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Finn fags are as delusional as Marco fags.
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>>147133284
No one cares about your emotionally abuse demoralization and child indoctrination trash.
AT is dead and will be a streaming trash show forever.
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>>147133284
Why does this seem so...mean spirited?
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>>147133397
You sound like a woman that really wishes she was born male
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>>147133434
It kind of gives off a vibe like they see him as less than a friend or look down on him
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>>147133284
Sorry, shes lesbo. Endgame was pic rel.
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>>147133284
Know what would be bette?
If they wrote out the two dykes and well you know what, remove Finn from Ooo and give them their own show.

Then move Finn to a whole other show. No princesses. No fucking ice king. No romance bullshit.
Just him and his dog having adventures and saving normal people and straight attractive normal girls.

Oh and put muto and sugar on the doomed lesbians of ooo show and the shit streaming show and get normal males who can produce and like the concept to make AT.

The IP is probably permanently damaged so badly it's not even worth it at this point. But it's probably got enough in it that if you just do a bunch of non-connected adventures in an entirely new land while ignoring the faggot "lore" shit and loser characters from ooo/the last show you might have something.
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>>147133646
>Here we have a failed attempt to trojan horse a new super powerful dyke in as a girlfriend of Finn.
>She's canon lesbo in her first and only real apperance and no one gives a fuck beyond astroturfed bullshit online.
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>>147133441
Women who wish they were born male usually simp for Finn
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>>147133683
Facts
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>>147133284
I feel like if they were a thing you assholes would just obsessively pair Marceline or finn with someone else anyway and scream canon ships are bad always.
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Seeing how this ship makes people seeth kinda opened my mind to just how lame a lot of the people here
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>>147133427
Shut up faggot
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>>147133672
She competed to prove her skill
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Taking suggestions
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>>147133397
Not true.
He was raped by LSP
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>>147133986
Finn and Fionna being cozy together.
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>>147133646
How old exactly is HW.....Finn is 17-18 around the time AT ends, but HW gives off the vibe that she's late 20s or early 30s
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>>147133986
Do a romantic shot of Finn and Hot Dog Princess pretty please
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>>147133411
Finnfags are pathetic “woe is me” self victimizers that make the average pronouns in bio person look like they have thick skin, and are working around the clock to act like AT is the worst thing to happen to men (fagottry on display here: >>147133427)

The biggest sin marcofags commit is just goofy, cringy fan art lol
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>>147133972
They could have done ANYTHING to show her "proving her skill".
But she decided to show her going into a tournament to fight to tonguefuck bubblegums mouth.
???
Not only that, she's not shown this need to prove her skill and ability anyother time.

No.
She was a canon dyke fighting to kiss bubble gum. And the reason it's being brought up now is because they want to trojan horse in yet another boss bitch dyke character through the "Finn's girlfriend" pipeline that was closed and shut down a long ass time ago.

If you want this piece of shit to get some air time then just have her show up. Don't have to do this bullshit relationship.

He can be off smashing straight hot blue skinned village girls who were kidnapped by pirates. Not trying to fight for super bitches and elite nobles who exclusively live off of pussy.

>>147134000
She's spinster territory. So she shouldn't be allowed to hook up with a 15 year old rape and trauma victim.
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>>147134049
Nobody cares about your headcanon
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>>147133986
Finn and Marceline striking poses while their fabulous long hair flows in the wind.
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>>147133986
Have bronwyn seducing Finn in a see through nightgown
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Finn is Marceline's toy.
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>>147134364
Marceline x Youngish Finn is pretty hot.
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>>147133986
Finn and Bronwyn post-coitus, her snuggling up to him, Finn laying on his back with an 'oh fuck what have I done?' face.
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>>147133397
This. Rewatching the show as an adult, it's actually wild how clear the writers make it from the very beginning that PB had absolutely zero romantic interest in him, and never would. There was a single hail mary when her personality also changed when she turned young again because the writers thought the show was getting cancelled at the end of season 2, but as soon they knew they were getting a third, they instantly reverted her back in mind and inclination.
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>>147134364
>>147135093
>>147135093
>>147135119

Finn is gay
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>>147135206
Who was his boyfriend?
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>>147133911
Not true. I whole heartedly support canon ships when done right. Marceline and Finn have so much chemistry even as friends. The episode that introduced Marceline and several more showed me that. If the show suddenly made them lovers I would say "well I'm glad my prediction turned out to be true".

There's nothing pointing to a Marceline x PB. Rebecca Sugar, the writer of the show, likes to point at the door wizard episode that started that ship but, that shit is so vague I never would have guessed. And the writers would continue to be so vague. I stopped watching some season after 3 because how much the show just lost the plot.

So when I heard Marceline x PB was now a thing, it gave me so much whiplash it would make a heavy metal guitarist jealous. I never would have predicted such a thing based on the many times those two hated each other

>tl;Dr
I saw bread crumbs pointing to a possible Marceline x Finn and would have supported it if it became canon. I never saw anything remotely for PB x Marceline
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>>147135296
NTS but Jake obviously
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>>147133284
The gif where she's giving him a footjob while he's cumming remains a go to
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>>147135441
Jake is his brother and has a wife. It must be someone else.
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>>147133661
>Oh and put muto and sugar on the doomed lesbians of ooo show
but then who would shoehorn in quirky "ukulele chick" songs into every other episode of AT?
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>>147133986
Marceline and young Finn dressed as Piccolo and Gohan respectively and with Finn stil wearing his hat
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>>147133959
The faggot is you, Adventure Time enjoyer.
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>>147135662
Shut the fuck up and kys you faggot
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>>147133434
they are lesbians
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>>147135688
Statistics say you're more likely to.
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>>147133434
I don't like shit where the characters act awkward or cold towards each other abruptly when previously that's not the case.
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>>147135721
Here’s a (you) faggot
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>>147135764
I pity your parents.
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>>147135784
Keep seething tranny
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>>147135795
but I don't enjoy Adventure Time???
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>>147135750
They are women
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Unf
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>>147135814
That’s because you are a tranny so shut the fuck up
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>>147135871
Then you admit you're a tranny because you refuse to shut the fuck up? That self own is crazy...
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>>147135847
It's not that. It's the writers putting in these weird moments or changes within the span of an episode that goes against how the characters were before.
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>>147135428
Eh Marceline x PB at least had some nods throughout the show even if it was mostly vague (I had just interpreted it as them being close friends in the past rather than lovers...aside from the shirt sniffing scene I guess). It wasnt Korrasami levels of out of nowhere. Though yeah Finn and Marceline have better chemistry unless you are focusing on an opposites attract sorta thing but eh...didnt really feel like it clicked with Marcy and PB
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>>147135885
Stop gasping at straws
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>>147135924
That's all you've been doing.
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>>147135932
Shut the fuck up you faggot
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>>147135902
Marceline was a bitch since her first appereance
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>>147135941
I don't think I will.
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>>147135885
Lol,I think it's a skibidi toilet gen kid. That's why he is acting so feisty.
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>>147135975
Her fucked you bitch
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>>147135980
I don't care about that shit you faggot
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>>147135997
Simmer down. I think you've had a stroke.
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>>147133284
Literally rejected in the second season
Why are finncels like this
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The Finncels are getting uppity in this thread. It's been years get the fuck over it.
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>>147133284
No. THIS was the endgame.
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>>147136502
Get fucked
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>>147136599
You can keep that syphillidic cocksucking whore
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tsk tsk, sour grapes
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Why is PB so THIQUE
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Excuse me sirs i didn't give you permission to argue in my thread, kindly get lost
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>>147136770
Come here little zoomzoom
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>>147136808
It's obvious that Marcy was the public bike for a good portion of unwashed and STDs ridden Ooo monsters
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>>147135915
>Eh Marceline x PB at least had some nods throughout the show even if it was mostly vague
>(I had just interpreted it as them being close friends in the past rather than lovers
my thoughts exactly
>...aside from the shirt sniffing scene I gues
eh adventure time iwas getting s so weird by then. And I never saw that so idc
>Though yeah Finn and Marceline have better chemistry unless you are focusing on an opposites attract sorta thing but eh...didnt really feel like it clicked with Marcy and PB
I'm glad we can agree on something :)
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>>147136849
Shut the fuck up you cheap whore go write one of your crappy songs about your trashy lifestyle
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>>147135296
Fern obviously.
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>>147136884
I'm gonna tear fat asshole apart
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I want some of that grade A red
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>>147136986
>getting molested by your clone made of grass
Now see why this >>147135206 Fin did it
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>>147135956
Yeah but playful. That reaction in that scene with PB is just out of character (for both of them) to force a change in tone in the show. Finn is being shoved to the side as the MC in his show and is abruptly treated like a unwanted weirdo. It's just awkward and devalues Finn in general.
Just a strange thing the writers were going for and I didn't like it.
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>>147134364
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Marceline is better off as a stick.
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>>147133284
>This was endgame
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>>147138219
You can always trust your older sister.
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>>147137860
Are you serious, she invited herself in the middle of the night and kicked Finn and Jake out their house during a storm without even leaving them time to proprely pack their things all because of a stupid letter carved in the wood (which could have been by everyone as far Finn and Jake knew) and then decided to kill Jake in front of Finn just to fuck with him and never apologized for this shit, just because the first season had a more comedic tone compared to the later ones it doesn't mean that her shitty actions never happened since this season is still canon to the show.
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>>147135848
marceline is a stick
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>>147133284
Kind of surprised this ship was normalized so much back then since Marceline's an adult
Nowadays you'd be cancelled for it
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>>147133434
They aren't being mean. They just didn't want Finn's arm around them while they're trying to talk and politely removed them. Finn is the one being awkward and not reading the room.
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so they did this in pure mean spirit right, there is no other reason to make the MC no longer the MC and cuck him 4 times
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>>147138530
Adventure Time got fucked over because there were either,
>Too many cooks in the kitchen during the writing process
>The old staff eventually left and went to work on something else
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>>147138509
And because Finn doesn't need those two whores
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>>147138219
now I want more jake and fionna interactions
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>>147137793
Nan, Finn likes it.
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>>147138219
>So no one wants you let's fix that
>mfw reading that
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>>147140002
>”BUBBLEGUM MAKE FERN CHOCOLATE”
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>>147134000
The older the better
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>>147138219
I guess you could say that Finn is getting his Cake and eating it too
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bubblegum was the endgame, but as the fanbase got filled with the shitty tumblr fans and the good writers got replaced by diversity hires, they realized that would be "grooming" and age gap bad so they made her gay and finn a loser
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>>147133434
Because the people who worked on the show genuinely hated Finn.
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>>147133284
I love big sis stuff so I was all in. Possibly the worst thing ever happened instead and I will forever be mad.
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>>147134000
It's Adventure Time and she's a wizard so anywhere between 16 and 1000.

She does come across as older then Finn though.
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>>147133284
Being married with Marcy would unyronically be awful
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>>147141197
Ice cold pussy
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>>147141344
It’s the truth
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>>147133397
At least Finn is the best self insert.

Helluvaboss and hazbin hotel has no self inserts

Let me give you an example

Moxie:
>Faggot
Collin:
>Black coded
Pinklie:
>Furfag
Striker:
>Also faggot
Blitzo:
>Biggest Faggot of all time
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>>147140282
I don't think there was ever an "endgame." Young character having crush on cool, older character is a cartoon staple. I doubt Pen planned for them to actually be together.
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>>147133434

I think it's because it's both of them brusging him off and doesn't really feel in character for Marceline to handle it that way. She'd either react instantly the second he touched her or not be bothered by it at all.
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>>147133284
Everyone here is stupid none of this was endgame, pic related is endgame.
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>>147141544
So we’re literally wannabeaner spic gringos?
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>>147137938
Source
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>>147141565
What cause he likes taco’s dude that’s like the most basic Mexican dish. At least try fried plantains if you want to be a poser.
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>>147141544
That's not Endgame, that's Scott Lang holding tacos.
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>>147141576
https://x.com/CoolerInker/status/1877885721723236534
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>>147141610
That was endgame, I mean what did you remeber from that movie.
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>>147141197
Only because we're not Finn.
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>>147141434
Cope lol
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>>147142273
It's a trope, not a cope. You people acting like you've never seen it before, and akshually they intended all along for the child to be groomed by an adult
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>>147142420
finn was intended to be molested by a series of hot older women, which would have a moral at the end of the arc that he should be grateful for the attention as he stifles his depression
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>>147133986
Fionna giving Finn a thigh choke
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>>147142198
Finn has better options
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>>147142567
Technically he does, but luckily Marcy's into her too. So they have a nice threesome going on.
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>>147140282
...
The people who called it grooming were drawing pedo shit as adults.
And are now pushing the middle aged spinster and canon lesbian tree girl or whatever as his new girlfriend.
Not because it makes sense, but because they want another dyke girlboss to trojan horse in as his GF.

>>147142420
Princess bubble gum was at first a girl around his general age who he was friends with but not friends the typical teen thing.
But child bubble gum kind of fucked that up and made him younger then he probably was supposed to be and made the previous stuff kind of wierd.

Then the lesbian stuff they shoved in later was even worse. Basically pb and marcy are ageless lesbian sociopaths who have been emotionally manipulating a single diget aged child into being their personal child soldier.
A child with no special powers, no kingdom, no ancient innumerable lives.
But they can use the now apparently important age difference as an excuse for dyke relationship....but this same age difference excuse is meaningless when it comes to a character that is litterally in her fucking 30s hooking up with a 14 year old?


Finn and Jake in adventures in Distant lands.
A soft reboot of the series with no pb, marcie, lpb, hunttress wizard fern, retcon the faggot alien rape baby origin for jake, just clean up all of that goddamned shit.

can't actually think of a reason for any of the princesses or any of the writers who looked at this and said OKAY ITS GOOD and ran with this shit to continue to be a part of the IP.

They have a princesses only show...that will bomb.
And they have the unwatched "content" of the fionna and cake show. They can go there.
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>>147142464
I misread
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>>147142786
Nm this is better
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>>147142786
Way better.
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>>147142606
They are gonna get a nasty STD
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>>147133434
Mean spirited would be backhanding him and then spitting in his mouth
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>>147142727
>around his general age
18 and 12?
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>>147142786
Kek!
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>>147142786
I love Finn's sociopathic smile
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Reminder that the Writer of everything past Season 2 isn't the same as Seasons 1 and 2. The idea of Marceline and Bubblegum being ex lovers was posited by Marcelines voice actress at a convention which she made up on the spot. It made people made when she said she made it up in a post on her Twitter.
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>>147143637
Ah yes, THE writer of Adventure Time.
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>>147133284
And this is a better ending.
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>>147133284
Advenure Time three main girls are like the Dragon Ball ones, they are hot but their personality is shit
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>>147145103
You hit the nail on the head.
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>>147145112
At least Chichi and Bulma are emotionally mature enough to sustain a marriage i can't say the same for Flame Princess and Marceline
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>>147145112
Dragon Ball Chi Chi>Z and Super Chi Chi
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>>147145209
Meh, that nagging bitch got what she deserved.
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>>147145209
The thing about Marceline is the very nature of her having a relationship with Finn would lead her to actually heal emotionally.
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>>147145239
Only with a more mature Finn
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>>147145239
As we just saw in Fionna and Cake, Finn is not the greatest at helping others emotionally heal.
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>>147145243
Hence why it’s best as a slow-burn relationship.

>>147145270
Wow, the shit writers that hate Finn made Finn look like shit. What a surprise.
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>>147145323
It's not surprising that Finn is not great at handling emotional stuff at all, actually.
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>>147133284
Lmao I find hilarious that the only girl that was never officially shipped with the MC is the most popular amongst the fanbase nowadays, the writers failed so much shilling at the other girls that people prefer to make up a brand new relationship with Marceline rather than any of the annoying princesses with fatal flaws or the consolation prize that's HW which is just a background character thrown as a sloppy ship at the dying seasons of the show at which point nobody cares. How can they be so incompetent?
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>>147145528
you underestimate the power of the hw fanbase
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>>147133284
Feel bad for you non-fag adventure time fans. Us Regular Chads were eating good. No fagshit in our cartoon.
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>>147145558
At least non faggot adventure time fans not living in faggot hell like hellaverse fans >>147141387


Fuck me, I rather write my own “sonichu” fanfic at least, minus the kiwifaggatory and sonicfaggatory
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>>147145232
>Meh, that nagging bitch got what she deserved.
Looking back as an adult, Chichi's anger was pretty reasonable. Goku kept disappearing from months to years on end, and her literal child kept getting put in extremely dangerous situations no responsible adult should be allowing. Gohan was 4 to 6 all the way up to post-namek, a literal toddler. He was barely 10 by the end of the Cell Games.
If I were Chichi I'd be pissed too.
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>>147133284
I always thought this ship being so popular was ironic because Marceline always seemed certain that Finn had a thing for her.
Reminder she even in universe told a story where Fiona had a thing for Marcel in a Fiona and Cake episode.
All of which makes Finn's complete apathy to her romantically really fucking funny to me.
There was even a whole episode around it.
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>>147133284
but anon...she is a living corpse. You wouldn't do such a thing right? sticking it to a corpse...thats inmoral anon
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>>147145673
First of all orange we see that Marceline that takes baths and she's not a full vampire she's a vampirized cambion (and vampires in this series aren't undead creatures) so we can assume that she doesn't have any olfactive horros.
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>>147142786
OR here, no way Finn has thighs that big, he's skinny. thanks
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>>147145869
You like looking at corpses in bathtubs?
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That's fucked up.
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Yeah anon I think you need some serious therapy for having interests like that. This is not healthy for a young adult.
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...I kinda like looking at tub photos online
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>>147145608
The worst thing is if you think about it she can’t do anything to stop Goku, if she left with Gohan, Goku could sense there energy and find them no one on earth is stronger than him, and yeah fighting aliens and robot people isn’t ideal but the alternative is death. >>147145232
This is tragically how easy Chi chu could die trying to step in and she’s probably just under or at Mr. Satans strength.
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>>147146041
You're a moldy meatball! All you see is rotting meat in them tubs, just like you!
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>>147146059
Shake thats enough, but Christ Meatwad! I am going to need to talk to you about your internet privileges later.
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Y'know, all this talk about dead chicks in tubs kinda makes my search history look normal.
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>>147145949
He does a lot of physical activity
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But y'know what is hot? LSP. That broads somethin' else. Finns a lucky guy got to say.
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>>147146110
Didn't she rape a guy?
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>>147146048
She's stronger than Mr. Satan since she can go to to toe with Goku
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But no seriously that chick can rape me anyday.
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>>147146148
She's made of GAS. I am not smooching a space fart!
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I would give her a lil' smooch
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>>147146185
You look up pics of dead chicks in bathtubs you don't count!
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he should have beheaded these vile butches and became incelking
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Oh yeah? Well what kinda girl you like then?
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>>147146228
Hear me out hear me out
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Hot dog princess has it going on
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>>147146259
Oh c'mon! They serve her at freaking stadium stands!
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Technically they serve us too, Carl.
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>>147146259
Hey man, that’s my sister…
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>>147133434
It would've been funnier if Bubblegum put his hand down and Marceline put her arm around Finn after seeing what Bubblegum did.
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>>147145949
Get the fuck out of here, you've served your purpose.
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>>147142786
You gotta sign your name on your drawings, dude. I want to draw more of Finn's thighs but I need to know who to credit.
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>>147135693
Marcy is BI, PB is probably actually an asexual who just likes Marcy romanically
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>>147134000
Hunter was around the same age as Fionna
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>>147138219
>Cool Older Brother and Dorky Little Sister
>Horny Older Sister and Horny Younger Brother

I need more of these dynamics
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>>147138509
It's his show, he's the mc and was written as well liked and the writers all of a sudden make him a strange burden and have two characters act weird towards him.
The writers put a cringy lesbian pairing above the mc who should be written as the guy who plows them.
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>>147145558
It had relationship drama, a wacky kid cartoon went from not taking itself seriously to having try hard drama. Regular Show did not win.
Neither show did.
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>>147133434
And what were the writers thinking with this scene?
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>>147148453
They were attempting to portray Finn's needy, still-childlike perception on relationships, and that Bubbeline wasn't a phase. Instead it made Finn look like an incel, and the girls as ungrateful bitches. Not ungrateful in that they owed him a date, but they could have at least said something other than just utterly ignoring him; possibly setting the record straight between them that he's too young, and they're not interested in boys. That would have been the actually responsibly-written way to go about it. But by this point, the writing team was made up of sociopaths.
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>>147134049
she could want to kiss bubblegum and later date Finn
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>>147142786
Finn should have that kind of legs desu.
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>>147147946
I unironically feel like Regular Show's relationship episodes were fine. It was the rehashes of old plots but with reskinned antagonists that bothered me. It was never the dating stuff that people found the most boring evident by the final season. It was when the show did not wow us with crazy premises and adventures.

I also know a "Mordecai", someone who finally gets what he wants, and royally fucks it up because his ego got inflated from it. I think the worst part is that Mordecai's troubles with relationships are much more realistic than Finn's troubles. Mordecai DID get Margaret, and he DID get CJ, but they didn't break apart from one another due to the characters suddenly being cunts and having different personalities. Margaret wanted to get into college and did the reasonable thing of not diving into something she was not ready for, and Mordecai was not ready for life to continue on without him. Mordecai and CJ had something special and unique, but from the jump she was always made to fill a selfish ego void that Mordecai never fully patched because he tried to go back to the past to where he "won". I guess when I simplify it like that, it can be relatable to anyone. The fact you finally get what you were craving for so long and then, life happens, shit happens.
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>>147147946
Both shows had relationship drama but one show didn't have the protagonist undergo a humiliation ritual for the sake of some fag relationship made by straight hating freaks.
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I don't care about Finn hate or lesbos, MarcelineXPB is an awful pairing. They have like no chemistry. Every scene they share feels arbitrary or sometimes even forced melodrama.
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>>147133284
pb being the final villain should have been endgame
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>>147141387
How is Collin black coded? Aside from being voiced by Jayden Libran I don't see any way in which he's a black character
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>>147149385
I think that she's with PB just to have acces to her castle
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>>147149454
Wooly hair, dark skin.

My point still stands
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>>147149385
disagree
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>>147134000
when i was in my early 20s i was fucking milfs and gilfs in their late 40s. adult sex with age gaps are part of the human condition. Finn won.
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>>147150900
This.
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Why do these threads always devolve into this retarded bickering?
>>147149454
NTA
You can not possibly fathom the vitriol I have towards this character having my name with the exact same spelling.
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>>147151173
>Why do these threads always devolve into this retarded bickering?
On /co/ in 2025? No fucking way.
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>>147151173
Awww! look how cute marcline is confusingly angry at Finn! Made me want to feel bad of her and hug her!
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>>147151173
i remember seeing this pic but i am pretty sure it has more ?
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>>147151702
Yeah, it cuts off the part where Marceline's boner starts poking Finn in the crotch.
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>>147151796
jesus..... sauce ?
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>>147151804
Avert your eyes from the bio.

https://x.com/HunterMSmut/status/1286819272900173824
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>>147151841
yep... it's everywhere
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>>147141344
A warm bath to heat her up would fix that and Finns bodyheat will keep her warm
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>>147133646
She is a pretty character when you think about it.
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>>147152413
Not that hard to think about
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>>147133434
Because these MOTHERFUCKERS took out the cool older sister with a mean streak character that Marceline used to be, cranked up her daddy issues to 11 and deciced that her whole character should revolve around being a lesbian all of a sudden. I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU ADAM MUTO
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>>147149385
Also this, Marceline had more chemistry with freaking LSP in that princess episodes than in 7 seasons of Bubbline shilling, the writers don't know how to write compelling relationships
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>>147153261
Literally none of this would've happened if people didn't read that hard into the fucking musical episode. Yeah, the T-shirt detail was kinda weird, but they could've just said Marceline and PB were friends a long time ago and called it a day. But since people lost their marbles over I'm Just Your Problem, now they have to be dykes?
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>>147153296
they knew exactly what they were doing
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Reg show did it better
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>>147150097
>Lol so cute, quirky lesbians are complete opposites!!!
Every scene with them feels like 2013 era tumblr art made by the most mentally broken transbian imaginable
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>>147133284
Canyon x Finn should have been endgame
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>>147155223
they're not that different.
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>>147149974
Could be moorish or mesopotamian
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>>147133284
Kek. The Adventure Time fanbase is still in denial that the show went downhill after Pendleton Ward left. It's not hard to notice how their fandom was slowly replaced by faggots, similar to what happened with many other shows.They use excuses like, "It's more mature," or, "It's just really creative," when, in reality, the show's popularity stemmed from being a lighthearted series about fun adventures, not pseudo-philosophy. If you want empirical proof, just look at the viewership and ratings.
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>>147155569
People have different opinions. Inability to understand this is a sign of either sociopathy or autism.
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>>147155569
>they hated him because he told the truth
There's very little of value after Vault of bones. Some bright spots here and there but overall a messy boring slog to get through, with the most hamfisted attempts at character development I've ever seen.
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>>147155611
The character development is pretty good I think. They let it take place organically over seasons. It isn't neatly tied up within a small amount of time, with a tidy moral bow. By the time Finn truly understands how badly he fucked up with FP and apologises, it feels right because he had gone through an entire season of growing up beforehand. Lesser shows would've resolved that in a far more linear, clean fashion. At the end, and even after the show, the characters are still realistically flawed. Finn is still not great at dealing with his emotional problems. PB is still a bit egotistical. Marceline still struggles with being honest. During the show, PB had a great arc of loosening her grip on power, but the threat of Gumbald sees her slip into old habits. People don't develop in linear, always positive ways, and I appreciate that Adventure Time reflects some of that nuance.

That you picked Vault of Bones as your dividing line is kinda telling. There's still plenty of good episodes in between that and Frost and Fire, which I assume you hated.
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>>147138509
>Finn is the one being awkward and not reading the room.
Are you aware this is a fictional fucking show? The entire scene and context were invented and written to be that way by people who hate the character.
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>>147134000
Finn has been fighting monsters and doing crazy shit before he probably grew pubes. He can date someone somewhat older than him.
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>>147138219
I can't really articulate why, but I get the impression Jake and Fionna together would be especially troublesome. Like any combination of the four characters would involve trouble to some degree, but I feel like Jake's careless attitude and Fionna's nature would spell trouble. Like I easily imagine Fionna's dating life would be like twice as worse as Finn's with Jake influencing her. Cake and Finn do seem more balanced together somehow.
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>>147155569
What did you expect when it has same fanbase as the one from Steven Universe?
>>147155690
>muh le realistic character development
Kek'd at this, none of the characters from this show are consistently writen enough to feel realistic in any way because it turns out that giving the show to a bunch of tumblr CalArts hacks that don't communicate with each other and make up episodes from whatever they came up on their mind that day over the span of multiple season was a terrible idea, PB is the biggest example of this bullcrap.
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>>147155298
Yes
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>>147156017
There are some inconsistencies due to the different writers e.g. wolfhard writing Finn as particularly retarded at times, but the general approach to character development was done welll.
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>>147156017
>PB is the biggest example of this bullcrap
Interesting, because I'd consider PB one of the more consistently written characters from ~season 4 onwards. Obviously season 1-2 PB doesn't mesh cleanly with her depiction later on.
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>>147156244
>Obviously season 1-2 PB doesn't mesh cleanly with her depiction later on.
That is exactly what he's talking about, I'd wager.
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>>147156278
Well that's fair, but past a certain point you just gotta accept the characterisation changed a bit. Makes no sense to bitch about PB acting OOC in season 9, when it's something she would've done in season 3. Sometimes it takes a while for characterisations to settle, which is why first seasons can feel 'off' in retrospect. Same thing happened with Marceline a bit. It's hard to imagine her kicking Finn and Jake out of their house, even as an elaborate prank now.
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>>147156354
Let me put this bluntly: Flanderization is not character development. Stop defending it as such.
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>>147156440
Flanderization is the exact opposite of what happened with AT. It was like anti-flanderization. Marceline became LESS like a trickster. Finn became LESS boisterous. Ice King became LESS insane. PB became LESS benevolent. Their most defining traits from season 1-2 were diminished in favour of exploring their characters further and making them more nuanced. You can dislike this direction, or say it was done poorly, but objectively they were not flanderized.
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>>147155223
You seem like you're off your meds. They're 2 million year old eldritches that happen to enjoy eachothers company. You're just projecting your own agendas on them
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>>147156503
Thinking about this more, you could argue that PB was flanderized in the sense of her science smarts. She was smart, but not implied to be kingdom/life creating levels of genius.
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>>147135156
Some faggot (You) didn't know they never had a set backstory until like, season 3
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>>147137860
These writers are mostly Californian and Canadian during the swing of Gay Marriage being legalized AND the evil orange man taking power. FinnxPB and FinnxMarceline never stood a chance
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>>147134000
Finn dating HW pretty much wrecks rhe idea that he couldn't get with PB or Marceline. Before the storyboard staff decided to go "2deep4u" every princess wanted to date Finn. Something that these niggers dont remember >>147133411
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>>147155298
BASED

Perfect pairing
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As far as pendleton works are concerned, I don't think Finn was meant to be with anyone.
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>>147133646
I'm still mad about it
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>>147135915
>at least had some nods
Notice how they had to peel off Finn from joinijg during most of the "nods" straight fanfiction shit.

>>147137860
Correct. You've got PB and Sline Princess getting powers, but Finn can't go all Elden Ring in fights in a series that was inspired by DUNGEONS AND FUCKING DRAGONS because the staff would rather explore "muh feelings about romance and reincarnation" and other dumb shit
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>>147156503
Guess what? If you end up with LESS than what you started with, that’s not development. Surface-level “baby’s first navel-gazing” is not nuance. Marceline didn’t just become less of a trickster, she became less of a character, existing solely as an extension of her relationships with PB and Ice King, with no emotional range beyond “sad.” And not only did PB become a cold sociopath, but she continued to act as such in flashbacks, indicating the writers thought she was always like this rather than portraying it as an actual shift in personality over time. The writers were hacks, plain and simple.
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>>147141434
It was. Young PB was rhe endgame until they got renewed past the 2 season threshold according to the DVD commentary.

>>147143209
Like Ferb and Vanessa?

>>147155223
The best excuse Bubblinefags can give as to why they're in a relationship is because they're both immortals, but even that had to be retconned in
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>>147156503
But those are things I LIKED about those characters before those aspects were ripped away to seem more "mature" (worse off)
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>>147145975
Tends to happen after harvesting their organs
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>>147146259
I was expecting Korra ’s baby
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>>147156661
I've listened to the DVD commentary. Herpich refers to Mortal Recoil as a cliffhanger. The idea it was a backup series finale is pure speculation from what I can tell. My guess is that they knew renewal was imminent/likely at the time.
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>>147156661
I think Vanessa was 16, but more importantly they barely knew each other. It's not comparable.
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>>147156725
They specifically say they didn't want to get rid of PB's VA (which could've just been a Dipper and Mabel thing) so they went back on the age regression.

>from what I can tell
Which is wrong

>>147156740
Then you should be all up in arms from LSP and the other princesses wanting to drop trou over Finn as well
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>>147133434
Why did they even do that? Hes their friend ffs not friendzoned an actual friend.
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>>147155569
>The Adventure Time fanbase is still in denial that the show went downhill after Pendleton Ward left
I think you'll find almost nobody here who denies that.
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>>147156845
Extremely coastal elite writers that think they're hot shit by injecting their personal ales into the core of the show.
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>>147156816
You're assuming stuff out your ass, I don't where you get off telling others they're wrong. The idea they would ever dump hyden walch is retarded. Jesse moynihan said there was talk of young PB being around longer, but there is no indication it was meant to be a permanent thing.

LSP was only a couple years older, but yeah, her obsession with Finn was weird.
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>>147156857
Here isn't the majority of the fanbase.
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>>147155298
>the same artist who did that canyon panties art
neat
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>>147133284
Wrong. Imagine wanting the gross spoongirl.
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>>147156887
acceptable
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>>147156017
Yup
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>>147156882
You're the one assuming. Back to >>147157723 with your wannabe factual analysis.

>her obsession with Finn was weird
All the princesses wanted to be in Finn's pants until your type wanted a complete mood swing to bring all the fun and goofyness to a complete stop.
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>>147156887
The majority of the fanbase is correct
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>>147157664
And a canine or cat snout
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>>147158127
t. Retard Californian digesting the latest Marvelslop and crying over Bojack Horseman



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