If you hate AI animation you are a faggot
>>147134166damn that shit is improving fast
>>147134166THIS is what you want, AI bros.
>>147134166If it could save people from having to learn Blender, I think that'd be a genuine innovation. But until it reaches the level of detail that you can get with Blender, it's still slop
>GOOD SIR YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE STYLES THAT AREN'T VERY GENNERIC AND BORING LOOKING?? SIR YOU ARE PROSTITUTES BLOODY BENCHOD
>>147134166Containment thread's that way, good sir >>147127977
>>147134166So do you need an account for that site or what
>>147134166>coomer thread
>>147134166I hate the hailou morons and their kissing, censored crap. As bad as the DALL-E pinheads.>>147134222Yes.
>>147134166Can’t wait for the day we take animation back from the current faggot industry
>>147134166Do you guys have any backup plan regarding shilling on a site that's pulling in exponentially lower and lower organic traffic?
>>147134190I use supperior Chinese AI
>>147134166Based
>page 10 bumpkekky
>>147134220That's Dall-E. It's clear we need a new thread for text to video animations soon.It's much more powerful.
I wouldn't even care about the art in the OP if you told me it was hand drawn with paints made from hand made oils and pigments.More charm and aesthetically pleasing design in this drawing of Melusuine than hyper detailed, realistic art.
>>147135776You have an entire board for that shit, go there
>>147134180No anon you don't understand. It's slop because it wasn't down with a program control by inputs from a mouse used by a person using 7 references.
>>147136058So should every 3D Cartoon go to /3/? There's always going to be overlap, especially as AI becomes just as mainstream as cellphones are. It's literally a part of life now, deal with it.
>>147136128It's slop because it looks like interchangeable shit with 99% of the usual Patreon garbage>WAAAAHHHHHH BOOBS IS THE HEIGHT OF ARTShaddup nigger
>>147136128It's slop because there was no meaningful input from the person that "created" the image. Digital drawing is fundamentally the same as it is using a physical medium, it's just a digital simulacrum. The same difference between MS Word and a typewriter or even pen and paper, you have control over ever letter put to page regardless of medium so it's *your* work ultimately. Genslop is not.
>>147136178This looks uncanny as fuck
>>147134166Looks good just the fingers need a little fixing
>>147134166Shut up queer.
>>147136192>It's slop because it looks like interchangeable shit with 99% of the usual Patreon garbageGot it so it's literally nothing different then usual but your butthurt a computer used and your new buzzword to spam until you make a new one.
>>147134166Low and mid tier artists are the only ones crying. They have the audacity to talk about shitty AI hands and other the other shortcomings of AI but they produce low quality trash you see on fur affinity and deviantart. they might as well be an earlier version of stab diffusion.
>>147136302>Got it so it's literally nothing different then usual but your butthurt a computer used and your new buzzword to spam until you make a new one.Literal ESL lmao
>>147136302Oh my fucking god, what is up with you people and having the most piss-poor reading comprehension possible?>shitty big boobs art (human)It looks like SHIT.>shitty big boobs art (AI)It looks like SHIT.There's no way you're struggling THIS hard to follow along with basic statements, coomer crap looks atrocious regardless if it's made by organic hands or a robot, same way that something actually novel looks good if it's made by human or AI.Do I have to dumb it down even further?? Dumb bitch.
>>147136364Because I'm not spell checking. I'm literally typing and moving on. Your not worth the brain power of doing a once over. Your arguments are no different then unga bungas saying rock is special cause "sun sit on rock and not get hot".
>>147134190>Black Assumi
>>147136019:3
>>147136241Doesn't bother me.It's proof that technology has come a long way. Now anyone can start making movies at a push of a button.
>>147134166GMS
>>147136406Bro can barely type a coherent sentence, probably Indian or retarded (possibly both)>>147136434I rarely spellecheck my own posts but I'm not so much of a braindead retard that my posts contain multiple flagrant spelling errors to the point it's borderline unreadable.
>>147134166Why shouldn't I hate an inferior product? Just because it takes no skill to make it? That's true for all inferior products. AI will forever be a microwaved meal to the chef-cooked meals of real artists.
>>147136353It's the opposite. People who spend hours and hours on highly rendered images are sweating because this is good enough for companies to not want to spend the money on them, and their art is generic enough that AI can replace them. People who draw"lol relatable" quirk chungus comics aren't sweating because AI isn't trying to imitate them.
>>147136406>>shitty big boobs art (human)>It looks like SHIT.>>shitty big boobs art (AI)>It looks like SHIT.That's never the fucking reason you god damn know it. Ai shit is no different then millions of 4 panel comic threads we get. I'm sick of fucking worthless crying from faggots thinking ai = bad when they're are thousands of better complaints. Especially when it's followed by another buzzword of the week. Triple if I see a wojak which are just ai for retards. I'm not even reading responses anymore because it's the same level 1 shit I can pick up from skimming. You could replace this entire thread with chatgpt 1 bots and not a damn thing would change faggot.
>>147136456>404:soul not found
>>147136514The problem is that they both look like shit but with AI there's an endless deluge of it as opposed to a trickle. Made worse by the fact that AI guys so often feel the need to post EVERY picture they generated rather than the best one. Like how the Dall-E threads have dudes posting twelve versions of the same prompt of of Anna and Elsa. It's just spam.
>>147136468>I rarely spellecheckThat's the start. Spellcheck, reread, compare and contrast words so as not to be repeating. I'm not doing it for retards. Whatever else you said I'm sorry/good for you cause I didn't read it.
>>147136553Silence, troll. Come back to this disussion when you touch a woman who isn't your mother.
>>147136526AI did soul since 2022. Yall niggas just couldn't figure it out.
>>147136547>It's just spamSo no absolutely no different because spam is fucking spam. I see the same fucking memes, the same fucking 'shock' pictures, the same everything. It's bitching a damn burst over the ocean.
>>147136553>I'm not the retard I could sound smart if I wanted to bloody bastard bitch!Sure poojeet, sure.
>>147136567>Silence, trollAn actual retard. I'm shocked you can even type.
>>147136568>I tricked you into thinking this genslop was a badly drawn kid's drawing!not the achievement you think it is Rajesh
>>147136568>crayon doodle by a toddler>is perfectly within the linesLOL, AI sucks ass.
>>147135776>>147136178>>147136457This jeet came here because he was losing arguments in another thread >>147118153
>>147136583Let me put it a different way.That bike cuck comic artist or the one with the meme face tsundere elf or stonetoss oor gprime put out maybe 4-5 shitpost effort low quality comics a month.Whereas AI guys put out that much a MINUTE.It's a completely different scale of shit. That's the problem. Even wojaks took more time to make.
>>147136514Shit is shit, regardless of source, ai shit is just far more annoying by the frequency of the spam and absolute lack of curation. That and none of the spammers actually are capable of fixing any mistakes that were generated the first time, which most guys could do in a photo editor in a few minutes. They just throw a tantrum when people point the flaws out and scream "THE TECH WILL GET BETTER, YOU'LL SEE" instead of noting that flaw in their process so they can work on keeping it from popping up in later images down the line.
>>147129349>traffic starts plummeting>site has to start jewing the remaining users for more money to try to make ends meetKEK
>>147136612I didn't lose. Artfags are still coping I can make better animations without ever paying for it.
>>147134166Says the guy who will never touch a woman.
>>147136651You're "Guy" levels of retarded my nigger
>>147134166But I have sex with actual women. How many have you had, anon?
>>147136583>guys! Photoshop is awesome! You can shop a celebrity's head on a porn star! Or give them bigger boobs! Or even mix and match their bodies! Who needs real porn except as material for this awesome new technology of the future!Times change, trends and retards stay the same.
>>147136672Cry more bitch.
>>147134166I wonder how long it will be before AI is able to create entire TV episodes or moviesImagine being able to recreate any show or movie and customize it to your liking
>>147136630I'm fully prepared for 4chan to not exist by the end of this decade desu
Another thing that's annoying as fuck is the naked hypocrisy. AI Shills love acting like artists are gatekeepers but then you ask them what prompt they used and at BEST you'll just be ignored completely.
>>147134166And if you like AI, you're a cocksucking whore.
>>147134166Give it a cock bulge
>>147136651>mohammedFigures. It would take some 3rd world shithole dweller to not only make that shit, but also think it's good enough to share and proudly stick their name onto.
>>147136704Looks like shit
>>147136720Your mom must really love AI.
>>147136708This year. People are already able do amazing things it, especially when they edit all the clips together.See this for example:https://youtu.be/XRQvm6_OTpE?si=Ju0P6hEEyyLHU112
>>147136630It's meaningless without specifying the boards, retard. If the traffic is less because mongoloids on /pol/ and bots on /b/ post less, then good fucking riddance.
>>147136726>>147136736Then show me how you can make something better then, retard. And do it in less than 2 minutes since AI can generate these videos fast.
>>147136776This is the equivalent of "I bet you can't piss faster than I can" and expecting that to impress anyone
>>147136745>See this for example:>https://youtu.be/XRQvm6_OTpE?si=Ju0P6hEEyyLHU112 [Embed]I'll be real, this just feels like Tiktok brainrot.
>>147136809It's no different to Ren & Stimpy. Which was just animated fart gags and shit.
>>147136745The problem that AI still has is that it has no memory and therefore everything becomes inconsistent the longer the scenes are or the more scenes you have
>>147136776>I can shit on a plate in less than 2 minutes, this means that it is objectively superior to cooking
>>147134166I recognize this warlock.
>>147136776>Then show me how you can make something better then, retard.I can take a shit and it would look better because then it at least would look like what it's supposed to.
>>147136855That's not true. With more processing power and training these problems always get fixed.Just like when people use to mock AI for the "bad hands" except now it can do them just fine.Feature length text to movie prompts are next.
>>147136899>now it can do them just fine>bad hands in the attached mp4
>>147136852>comparing any of that to Ren and StimpyThat's a hell of a take.Especially considering Ren and Stimpy was a hell of a lot more memorable for how outright psychotic Ren could gethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCa7tKiCMN4 [Embed]
>>147134166People will never leave their goon caves once this tech advances far enough. It must be stopped at all costs.
>>147136899>2 more weeks and it will be able to not look like shit saar! AAAAA budget movie in blink of eye!lmao this jeet
>>147136919Still going to play with AI.Keep seething.
Literally the beginning of some All-Tomorrows shit where degenerated gooners spend their entire existence constantly proompting while aliens harvest their brain fluids completely ignored or something
The weird part is that designated threads like the novelai thread on /vp/ have some incredibly easygoing people, which makes histrionic weirdos like the guy in this thread even stranger by comparison
Why's it always the upper middle class who seethe at AI? This would be a great tool for those of the lower classes to use.
I love ai and I always try to do celebs on there.
>>147136962What's the original audio?
>>147137000>Saar please please this the needful AI algorithm will give the income for life
>>147137000>upper middle class>>>>>>>>4chan
>>147136672Funnily enough he's also an AIslop proselytizer. He may very well be the same poster.
>>147134166So true, hey look OP I gen'd a picture of you AI really is the future
>>147137000This fucking post looks like AI. What the fuck does liking or not liking AI slop has to do with social class? A tool for what? Spamming garbage and objectively making the internet worse?
>>1471370324chan doesn't allow audio videos.
>>147136745>specially when they edit all the clips together.A bunch of three second clips barely related to each other beyond a general theme is a show?
>>147137123>I freaking hatecAI>uses AI
Give it to me.
>>147136996It's the principle of having a general thread to begin with. The purpose and point of the thread are presented upfront, so nobody needs to debate the point. Threads like this already start with a need to preemptively defend themselves against outside opinion, like starting up yet another shitflinging contest between what indie animation flavor of the month is "beating" the rest.
>>147136899Feature length text to movie prompts are never going to be a thing because you're introducing too many variables.
>>147137368Bullshit
>>147137368>The internet will never get better man! 56K modems. Basic webpages. Anything else is too complicated and dumb. You anti-tech faggots have been debunked before, you will be debunked again this year.
>>147137191I'll explain it to you, autist. No one except technophobes hates AI itself. People hate uninvited slop spam and delusional cretins who think AI slop is good just because it's fast and simple to make.
What does the common anon get out of shilling AI? At least corporations are trying to maximize profits.
>>147137441They finally get to have sex.
https://x.com/TNTJohn1717/status/1878850783027888380
>>147134166Can you make more vids of her?
>>147137441This particular anon seems to be angry at "artists" for not drawing his requests for free so now he has endless slop for free
>>147137441I don't care about profits. I like playing with any new tool. AI just happens to the most fun gadget humanity has ever made. Artists and other whackos seething is just icing on the cake.
>>147137415>>147137430Technology isn't limitless. Especially in media. AI doesn't actually understand what it's making or whether what it's making is good. It can only go so far. A lot of experts say it's already reached its peak. And even that competency will take a dive once the net is full of slop and AI starts to "learn" from slop, making even worse slop.
>>147134166Is this that porn chick from WoW?
>>147137430This jeey does mot understand how AI models work
>>147137441He's a retard who thinks AI is far better than it is and doesn't understand why others don't agree because retards can't into empathy.
>>147137497Wow cloud Atlas
>>147137457this is really petty but I had to stop watching because I couldn't handle the swaying camera, one of these days I'm gonna kill the fucker that made that shit popular
>>147137497>Artists and other whackos seething is just icing on the cakeMost creative types are total assholes anyway so whatever. Let em seethe.
>>147137504>Technology isn't limitless. Says who? The whole point of AI is it's going to surpass Humans in everyway. Every new benchmark even shows AI constantly beats those targets. The party is just getting started now.
>>147137553>smears shit on walls>thinks he's in the right because people get angry at himLiteral chimp.
>>147137562>The whole point of AI is it's going to surpass Humans in everyway.Lol you actual Indian street shitter all AI does is try to morph static into something resembling whatever material was fed into the model. It ONLY can give a subpar version of something a human made/fed it. It's a fundamental limitation that it will never overcome.
>>147137562You conveniently ignored the most important part of my post. Sure, AI will continue to improve on things like math and physics. But not creative things. Because there are no strict laws there to guide it. It cannot create quality art without the capacity to understand what art is. The more creative it tries to be, the worse the output. The more derivative it is, the better, but that defeats the purpose, since you can just watch whatever it's ripping off because it will be infinitely better. All better calc speed will do is make AI create shitty slop faster, not better. AI conscience would precede quality AI art, and by that point we'll have bigger problems than AI slop.
>>147137540It's just your standard content farm shit, Genslop is going to make it all the more worse
>>147137589>It ONLY can give a subpar version of something a human made/fed it. You stupid Luddite, AI has already made several new discoveries that no Human could ever think of before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj98vyh0YoU>It's a fundamental limitation that it will never overcome.Fucking lol.
>>147137648It's funny seeing them call other people luddites while fundamentally misunderstanding how LLMs work by thinking they operate under magic scifi rules
>>147137668Wow, you really are a retarded street shitter. Actually read the thing. It got fed data and it spat out the logical conclusion of it. In the same way a calculator would. It's just a tool. It didn't randomly develop an interest in defense, study in it's free time and come up with a design in hopes of reducing battlefield casualties.
Probably the weirdest thing about AIfags I've noticed is that it feels like at their roots, they've got the makings of a super-fringe religious fundamentalist that foams at the mouth looking for more recruits, but bizarrely enough, it intertwines with very visible secular science, like very clearly hard science that was clearly invented with their lifetime.It's the most uncanny thing witnessing these super-emotional meltdowns like you just lobbed the gravest insult possible towards a statue of the Virgin Mary, but instead it's coming from someone that thinks that his computer is some kind of magic wand.
>>147137648> It cannot create quality art without the capacity to understand what art is. The more creative it tries to be, the worse the output.You're still spouting this BS?AI has already won 1st place at an Art Contest.And it was that achievement that buck broke Artists forever into demanding it be banned.You can't handle the fact that machines are in fact more creative than you.
>>147137668>Interesting EngineeringKek this INDIAN STREETSHITTER reads a couple popsci articles and thinks he knows jack shit!
>>147137668It fabricated a shape based on data because machine learning has superior computational power and that's where their actual strengths lie, applying that to creative fields is like apples and oranges.
>>147137724>award winning>...at State FairThat's the bar you're setting it at. A state fair.Jesus christ, you don't even read the shit you're posting at all.
>>147137711> It got fed data and it spat out the logical conclusion of it.So why don't you do it then dumbass? Read all the same data AI did and make something groundbreaking with it.Oh right, you can't. There are already several studies that show AI can reason and think beyond its dataset.In fact, it's becoming ever so common to use synthetic or AI generated responses for its training now. Humans are not needed going forward.
>>147137668Look at this new shape I made, I call it the bocagocakekagon. Where's my medal?
>>147137719The real shared root of this behavior is lack of understanding of how the world works. They think AI is (or eventually will be) omnipotent and omniscient and will usher them into an utopia in the future. It's not "like" religion, it is religion.
>>147134166damm when the hell did it get so good
>>147137724>And it was that achievement that buck broke Artists forever into demanding it be bannedArtists want it banned because it plagiarizes their work.Everyone else hates it because it's ugly and floods the internet.
>>147137724>names his slop some pretentious french shit>immediately tries to copyright it and then reality sets inlol
>>147137724Look at it, it's shit. The retarded old men in the jury probably thought he actually painted that, which would have required skill, and thought it's impressionist or some shit.
>>147137757So that means you're not needed either? Okay
>>147137775>Artists want it banned because it plagiarizes their work.Oh shut the hell up with this. Artists plagiarized the Akira bike scene for decades. None of you spoke up and said it was bad. Again, it's only jealousy that AI can make more beautiful pictures than you. Both faster and for free. You're like a Communist and can only ban things that hurt your feelings rather than what is truthful.
>>147137768>bocagocakekagon.>no visible cakeLiar!
>>147137757>you can't you calculate the root of 7 without tools?>calculators are our gods!You're literally retarded. Literally. Also no, AI can't think. We're nowhere near making AI that can think.
>>147137804>You're like a CommunistAren't you trying to spin AI as this tool that will make a million billion movies for "free"? The most anti-capitalist thing possible?
>>147137796Unlike you I'm not afraid of AI and I'll live long enough to own a robot.Can't speak for your own fate assuming you belong to a useless job that will get automated. LOL.
So are AI threads just political shitflinging and indians being mad at each other? Never been in one before but that's the impression I'm getting
>>147137804>You're like a CommunistA communist is someone that believes IP isn't property
>>147137804For your own sake, I hope you're trolling and not really this mentally handicapped and neurodivergent.
>>147137829You're expecting too much logical consistency from someone that's getting their responses from chatgpt
>>147137804>Oh shut the hell up with thisOh, did I touch a nerve?The reality is that generative image AI takes white noise, then tries to morph it into images matching its prompt. By design, a perfect AI replication would be no different than tracing or sampling.>b-b-but these other media referenced Akira slide!That's how memes work you stinky cowshit-eater.
>>147137837Mask drop moment: the AI-worshipper is a lonely virgin, coping that he will eventually get a robot waifu so someone will love him
>>147137822>Nowhere near he says.Note that article was 2-3 years ago, the same time when AI dramatically impacted the world and massive job cuts followed after. If anything the Engineer was trying to warn you losers but you didn't listen. Conscious AI is absolutely on the table now and most likely exists already.
its hard to tell whose baiting who in this thread anymore.
>>147137883Wow, in the timeframe since, AI has made such advances as... making stock video clips.
>>147129349>It can't be that ba->notice the giant 4chan pass price increase notification they just addedOh, it's that bad.
>>147137838Yep. That's why they have a designated AI thread for so many boards now. And why the people that try to make more than one get shat on.
>>147137883>and most likely exists alreadyThis prospect is amusing because it would mean that for all the fearmongering over how a conscious AI will immediately skyrocket in intelligence and take over the world and nuke everything and all, the actual reality would be that it was just a wet fart that amounted to nothing and the world runs exactly the same.
>>147137842A communist wants to stop the free market. Since AI can make better art for free, Artfags are anti-competition and want to stifle the market.Tough luck, it only makes me wish the tech accelerates even faster.
>>147137775>Artists want it banned because it plagiarizes their work.What about those trained with open-source content?
>>147137954Free market doesn't give you a right to encroach on someone's property, that's communism.
>>147137198DALL-E is a godsend for alt artstyle porn, I cant stop making 90s anime yuri images
>>147137987I said give me lois einhorn
>>147137866>That's how memes work you stinky cowshit-eater.So AI makes memes then? I'm not sure what stupid point you're making other than handwaving hypocrisy.>Artists HATE stealing>Except for the Akira bike scene. That's different because.. I SAID SO OK!!!
>>147137968>What about those trained with open-source content?Even the ones that say this have been caught lying
was messing around with a.i. image gen and tried X-23 with Sunsetriderz
>>147138050Then used web based img2vid to animate itonly got 5 seconds with free trial
>>147134166GOOD MORNING SIR
>>147138050looks like shit do better
>>147138015It's the difference between drawing something based on visual replication alone and copying a file on your computer, you can't steal an image through the imperfect filter of the human visual cortex.
>>147138061All it's missing is a bright "PLAY NOW" button.
>>147138069I don't take it very seriously, just mess around with
>>147138015>So AI makes memes then?Unironically that's all it's good for.>>Except for the Akira bike sceneHow many of those scenes were tracing the original?
>>147137986>Free market doesn't give you a right to encroach on someone's property, that's communism.And AI has done nothing to violate that. You can still sell your drawings for overinflated prices and consumers can refuse to buy it. But you don't have a right to take my tools away because I make better business with it.
>>147137167Sure it does. Post it in /wsg/. Or is it overlaid over some Chinese audio/video or something?
>>147138015You're literally the only person in this thread who whines about the Akira bike scene. If you actually knew internet culture, people were already rolling their eyes anytime it's been used past the 2000's. So even your example of "It's okay when cartoons does it" is false, cause everyone was already like "Goddamnit, please stop copying that one scene" ages ago.
FUCK AI ANIMATION
>>147137968How many artists train only with open source content?
>>147138103>How many of those scenes were tracing the original?The same amount you try and accuse AI with.Go ahead and show me which Artist made this exact same video before AI did (including the shapeshifting fire gag). You faggots can't because you lie about everything.
Harry Potter portrait vibe
>>147138104>And AI has done nothing to violate that.It's literally how AI images work. Please learn how the tech you're shilling works.>But you don't have a right to take my tools away because I make better business with it."Your tools" trace something someone made.
>>147137954i just want a place where my art retains some cultural value or impact. an echo to mirror the human experience.
>>147138156>The same amount you try and accuse AI with.AI traces. None of those bike scene references traced.
Everything is a remix - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx15aXjcDZg
>>147138114> If you actually knew internet culture, people were already rolling their eyes anytime it's been used past the 2000's.If you can roll your eyes at an Akira meme, why don't you roll your eyes at AI images then?You two faced hypocrites still can't answer and only make up more excuses.>It's different because...WE SAID SO.
>>147138177>AI traces.no it doesnt bitch
>>147138187I mean, I do roll my eyes at it. I've been consistently calling AI shit this entire thread. I can't control that it makes you butthurt.
>>147138177You're an idiot. I asked you to show me where the original video of Jack Black turning the kid into fire came from if AI didn't come up with it first.I'll wait for your answer faggot.
>>147138207>I mean, I do roll my eyes at it. I've been consistently calling AI shit this entire thread. I can't control that it makes you butthurt.So why are so many assblasted Artists still trying to ban AI then when they can just simply roll their eyes at it? That's where the double standard comes from unless they also get all the Akira copies banned as well.
>>147138104Your "tools" are based on the theft of property of others
Moviefag swinging at his demons so hard that he stopped posting his gens
>>147134166Is this supposed to be impressive? I've been watching webms of her taking dog dick for seven years straight, why should I care about this? If anything this is a step down from the animation I'm used to.
>slopniggers given free reign to openly shillLynch the jannies
>>147138193>>147138212Samefag.>Where the originalIt traced some other video of a kid catching on fire.
>>147138243Plenty of new AI videos exist tard.
>its another A.I hate thread I will use A.I as reference material to make fanart of your favorite characters with little to no differences and you will never know, faggot.
>>147138284stop lying bitch
the amount of seethe ai causes is hilarious. people literally seething over the horse and car situation that ai is and absolutely having autism melty over it. ai is here to stay and isnt going away and seething and bitching and having autism melty anytime ai art gets posted wont change that. I see threads get completely derailed the moment someone posts a simple piece of ai art. because 1-5 autisms will go full melty and wont stop fixating on the ai art and bitching and seething about it.+ its comical how words and tools cause such massive rage in some people to the point they cant even talk about anything else in front of them but that heckin ebil ai. the best part is how 90% of them will start being all TAKE IT TO THE AI THREADS! lol there is no offical site rule you MUST only post ai art in ai art threads. its allowed to post anywhere in any thread for any reason you want as long as its not nudes on a non nude board. but these autisms seethe about it and than try to tell you where you can and cant post as if some autism has any authority over what is posted where.+I posted some ai art in a /bant/ thread last night and some guy went full autism melty over it and wouldnt stop bitching about. even after I told him there's no rule about ai art posting he kept seething and going on about how it belongs in the containment ai threads and no where else. top kek such delusion and seethe.
>>147138104>because I make better business with it.Hello, I actually have some perspective in this.I work in an online book distributor. We take content from our various partners, repackage them, and distribute them for mass market.As you can imagine, this includes a lot of self-published titles, or from rather... innovative, we'll call them, partners that have allowed AI content.We haven't fully integrated AI text prompting into our QC, but there have been talks of it, purely because a lot of these self-published scammers want to flood our catalog with unreadable garbage with AI illustrations.It looks terrible. We axe that whenever it comes in because it's trash. Given that I have literally never seen these books anywhere else, I could imagine most other companies are doing the same.I am aware that I'm talking about picture books, not movies, but believe that I still have grounds to make a statement here since currently picture books can as of right now be created as a complete product.Feel free to ">dude trust me," but I don't care to get fired posting a pic of my office.TL;DR: (you) are not making money off of AI art. You are being thrown out with every other scammer.
>>147138230Considering it's copying from their work without proper reference or compensation, that's completely apples to oranges.>That's where the double standard comes from unless they also get all the Akira copies banned as well.Often falls under homage or parody, technically. AI art doesn't do either of those. Unless you're claiming that all the stolen art is an homage, in which case I can't wait for a judge to laugh your ass out of court.
>>147138284If it wasn't for the watermarks I bet many haters wouldn't even know where these pictures came from.Everything so far could pass for expensive Hollywood work.
Sasuga. It's never been about advancement or art or whatever. It's always been about giving Mr. Shekelberg another way to cut costs and talentless faggots to "get back" at people that actually put in a little time to practice real art
a.i. is not for serious business, it's for messing around with.I fuck around with image gen like I used to fuck around with ms paint as a kid, draw a bunch of loopy circles, paint tool the insides different colors and be done.Everyone is arguing over nothing, so much knee jerk butthurtIt's just booba
>>147138329You're attributing malice to faggots that simply wish to goon.
I think hiro should rangeban the entirety of india
>>147138284>I will use A.I as reference material to make fanart of your favorite charactersWhy not use the characters as a reference?
>>147138348Lol read the thread, you can see the proof in the puddingOr tantrums, as it were
>>147138327Those clips are so generic and lifeless nobody would care to ask.
>>147138327>expensive???
>>147138351This desu.India, Canada, and Israel
Slopscreechfests, Perinigger, Veetroons filling the catalog and Janny asleep at the wheelJust another glorious day on 4chins
This is just the same guy as before who was sperging out in that youtube AI video thread. You can tell by how he's being overly combative and spamming the same arguments and stale bait. The question is if he's just a mentally broken dude who can only get social interaction by being rude online or if he's part of an ESL marketing firm that's getting commissioned per number of posts and engagement.
>>147138345If that's the case why not stick to your corner? So many threads these days get inundated by a bunch of low effort slop booba when most just want hand-crafted booba. Every board has a designated AI general these days as well as /g/
>>147138355I want to draw it in my style
>>147138305>I am aware that I'm talking about picture books, not movies, but believe that I still have grounds to make a statement here since currently picture books can as of right now be created as a complete product.Feel free to ">dude trust me," but I don't care to get fired posting a pic of my office.TL;DR: (you) are not making money off of AI art. You are being thrown out with every other scammer.Of course I'm not going to believe you. You're full of shit.Writing has actually taken the biggest hit since ChatGPT entered the scene. I would even argue why would I care about buying your books?AI can generate good enough material if I want. If someone wants it, I can always sell it to them privately. You don't stop me from making money. You have no power over these machines or my business.
>>147138388It's a sperg. He got >>147138156 from another thread earlier today. This is /co/. We have a lot of genuine retards.
>>147138402So your skills are so atrophied that you can't implicitly convert a character into your style by reference? That's like one of the basic skills of cartooning and caricature.
You use AI for coomslop.I use AI to get on model show accurate characters.we are not the same.
It'd be one thing if AI art and videos actually looked uniquely appealing. But it's always the same fucking plastic-looking shit with locals or the nyantcha expies with NAI. A percentage of these people are the same ones who complain about the Calarts style or trannies in general, but then they go and gen stuff that is just as uninspired. Like at least used a different fucking artist every once in a while, man.
>>147138403>or my business.huh
>>147138442You have no talent and cannot draw anything.
>>147138403"your business" can't exist without a machine stealing the work of others lolIt has literally no value, why would a slopnigger buy his slop from someone else when he can slop out his own?Welcome to the death of humanity, lol. No enterprise, no creation, just holding out your hands for a slopper to shart out recycled fecal matter in an endless loop with no question because "lawl good enough" and "at least those mean artists are getting fucked"
>>147137749Not to mention said faggot that "won" is trying to sue the copyright office becahse people """stole""" his work. Ai faggots have zero self-awareness, intentionally so.
>>147138395it's on topicsee thread about a.i. videopost a.i. videothread burns, time to watch
>>147138312>Considering it's copying from their work without proper reference or compensation, that's completely apples to oranges.I don't owe you anything for using others work as a reference or inspiration. >Unless you're claiming that all the stolen art is an homage, in which case I can't wait for a judge to laugh your ass out of court.Funny you say that. Time and time again it was the anti-AI haters who got kicked out of the courtroom.Not once has anything you said ever stuck. I can make my AI images and it's my legal right. You don't get to infringe upon that, Communist.
>>147138474Neither can you, so you simp for those who canEmbarrassing tbqh
>>147138442getting on model as possible is a good objective, I sure as hell can't do it
>>147138497Wait, I thought AI was a tool against the establishment aka capitalism to allow people to make whatever they want. Which is it, retard?>I don't owe you anything for using others work as a reference or inspiration. Ah, so you don't actually understand what copyright is. That all makes sense.
>>147138516ok this is based. now animate it.
>>147138477>"your business" can't exist without a machine stealing the work of others lolIt has literally no value, why would a slopnigger buy his slop from someone else when he can slop out his own? Welcome to the death of humanity, lol. No enterprise, no creation, just holding out your hands for a slopper to shart out recycled fecal matter in an endless loop with no question because "lawl good enough" and "at least those mean artists are getting fucked""Steal Steal Steal"Maybe you're the robot because you sound like a broken record. Come up with new material next time instead of debunked and laughed out of the courtrooms material.
>>147138434Well if you're a beginner like me, you gotta do what you can to adapt.
>>147134166I like AI slop but assumi belongs on /v/ retard
>>147138537I ran out of free tokens, I don't pay for a.i. art
>>147138539>n-nuh uhSee, the slop has already melted your brain
>>147138442>I use AI to get on model show accurate charactersThat's the worst possible use for it you retard. AI cannot do anything accurately, let alone consistently.
>>147138522>Wait, I thought AI was a tool against the establishment aka capitalism to allow people to make whatever they want. Which is it, retard?It is. And I'm telling you to stop trying to take my tools away with your emotion based rants. Communist. >Ah, so you don't actually understand what copyright is. That all makes sense.Training and learning are not part of copyright.Or do you arrest children for reading books at the library and then learning how to cook food at home? I don't need to credit whatever Chef wrote a recipe for Pizza.I can make my own with paying you.
>>147138587*I can make my own without paying you.
>>147138497>>147138539Whatever some faggot judge said in legalese the fact remains that the process literally cannot occur without the mass verbatim lifting of pre-existing workIt is FUNDAMENTALLY worthless and all it would take to show it plainly is to make it NOT scrape other people's work for one second
>>147134166slopfags get the rope
>>147138612that's a lie
Today I will remind them
>>147138403>I would even argue why would I care about buying your books?You misunderstand the nature of my job.We work b2b. We are buying your books, or rather you (the vendor) send us your material for us to distribute if it passes out QC.The case is the reverse of what you state; AI products need to pass our QC to even make it through the next stages of our sales pipeline.AI does not generate good enough content. It's laughable nonsense which loses the charm and novelty the fiftieth time one of our media inspectors catches it.The only novel thing if you'll pardon the pun about your tantruming is asking why someone would choose to read a book offered over ChatGPT, since this extends to a lot of our other questions with our catalog offers ("why would a customer choose one book over another"). The sad truth is that author recognition drives sales more than content quality. There's already hundreds of thousands of books out there, better than the slop you're barfing up with chatbots.To put it another way, your 'business' is competing for the scraps of whatever appeared on Oprah and Booktok and losing, and anyone whose an avid reader is going to care about quality too much to be humored by chatbot ravings.
>>147138587I think someone should tell the bot handler that his bot's breaking down, it's not even using logical responses anymore
>>147138587Sloppers cannot learn, that's a lie and a buzzword. There is no intelligence to "AI"It can only take pre-existing work and HOPEFULLY blend it into something that doesn't have glaring mutant anatomy How about YOU stop trying to take away what *I* have made? I didn't give your slop machine permission to add my work to its sloptank
>>147138632>TRANSFORMING IT INTO SOMETHING NEW>it's literally all blacked porn
>>147137524Pretty sure it is or at least the AI interpretation of her. The color is a little off. Same expressions and movements.
>>147138632>NFT shitters>AI slopPic two
>>147138612>Whatever some faggot judge said in legalese the fact remains that the process literally cannot occur without the mass verbatim lifting of pre-existing work>It is FUNDAMENTALLY worthless and all it would take to show it plainly is to make it NOT scrape other people's work for one secondYou just described all Artists. For hundreds of years Human did not even know how to draw perspective properly until one man figured it out. It's a myth to think any human is original when in reality, you benefit and copied previous knowledge that existed. But you're jealous that AI can learn art faster than you. That is not stealing.
>>147138702>It's another "tracing is literally the same as learning" fag.Perspective is a skill. AI is not. Simple as.
>>147138702>It's a myth to think any human is original when in reality, you benefit and copied previous knowledge that existed.This confirms this incredibly abnormal feeling I've been getting where, kind of like what some people already said about AIfags really just being extremist religious zealots in a trenchcoat, the people worshipping this stuff seem to think that every invention ever made just... ontologically phased into existence, somehow. They think that the PCs and phones and all the other shit they used miraculously willed itself to life while filthy pitiful humans just keep reinventing the wheel, because if humans only copy things, what could they invent besides the wheel indefinitely? That explains why you guys seem to "think" it's all magic, it's because you actually for real think it's literal arcane sorcery that humans defiled, like you're living in this twisted amalgamation of fantasy and sci-fi.
>>147138632kek that pic sums it up. its such a horse and car situation and I love the absolute seethe people have over ai existing. I personally have embraced ai and use it almost daily to make fun art and stuff. people seething and enraged about it are silly and are just being all this wont replace the horse and refering to the car. comical.
>>147138655>The only novel thing if you'll pardon the pun about your tantruming is asking why someone would choose to read a book offered over ChatGPT, since this extends to a lot of our other questions with our catalog offers ("why would a customer choose one book over another"). Like everything in life, it's to fulfill a need or gap in the market. If I'm the only one who wrote a book about "Dragons fighting Shrek" and you don't carry it but someone is interested, what's stopping me from selling my story to them in private?I'm completely circumventing whatever market or sector you belong to. I could even set up my own bookstore or e-market place, the result is still the same. As long as people can find me, or I can find them and give them exactly what they need, I really don't care what you think of me. It's the same with the AI images. The reason tons of these AI Patreon accounts are so successful is because they captured a market that traditional artists refused to provide. AI offers new service opportunities and that's where the money is. Not old fashion storefronts like Blockbuster that use to be popular but fizzled out because of new technology...
>>147138702>claiming one man invented perspectiveSadly, I know what you're referencing, and that's absolutely incorrect. Filippo Brunelleschi created linear perspective, he didn't create the art of implying distance in drawings. The ancient romans had their own version of perspective in art, and asian countries developed planar perspective. And even then, it took Fillipio the use of advanced mathematics and many years of making his own drawings to develop this as a skill, he didn't steal anyone else's drawings to accomplish it and claim it as his own.Even your own attempts to "own" the haters with art history is uninformed, outright spurious, or downright fictional. How do you even live with yourself?
Is the AI developer going to pay me for scraping my art for the training data?No?Then it can go to hell.
>>147138776You proved my point idiot. None of those previous attempts at drawing distance is accurate or considered relevant today. Of course in 2025 there is no need to reinvent this a second time because as you said, his method is mathematically sound.But that's exactly what Artists copied if they want to make more realistic results.You wont get 3D art if you stuck to being a Caveman.
>>147138810You don't get paid now, Chrischan.
>>147138810>Is the AI developer going to pay me for scraping my art for the training data?No? Then it can go to hell.No one should pay you. If I read food recipes online and learn to cook my own dishes do I owe the Chef any money?Nope. They get $0 and the police wont do anything about it.References, learning and training are not crimes.
>>147134166I do not believe AI will ever be able to animate mecha well. It's difficult, even for humans.
>>147138845>None of those previous attempts at drawing distance is accurate or considered relevant today.>Understanding how we got to where we are is irrelevant>I don't need to have a basepoint to make art, I just need to steal the work of others so that my computer can have a base point to shit out tons of itDo you even understand what you're saying anymore?>>147138874So, if someone used your own AI art as part of the training data set to make their own and sad you deserve no credit or money, you'll naturally be 100% okay with it, right?
>>147138474Yes, and?
>>147138583I've been seeing promising results.Given enough time, who knows...?
>>147138920People should be sharing those promising results instead of spamming the worst examples then
>>147134166you have a porn addiction OP, that doesn't make you based>>147137000because clearly everyone is upper middle class here, pajeet
>>147138890>I do not believe AI will ever be able to animate mecha well. It's difficult, even for humans.AI can already make 3D models. Combined with automatic rigging, there is no reason why it can't animate this easier. That is typically how a lot cartoons and anime do it anyway. Drawing a giant robot it by hand was always inefficient. But with polygons, you have better control over every part with consistency.
>>147134166You have porn addiction, that means you're based. Busting nuts is the only thing that matters.
>>147138760>and are just being all this wont replace the horse and refering to the car. comical.Can you be even more obvious you don't frequent this board
>>147138929I did this one.Hands are still messed up, of coursehttps://files.catbox.moe/ic0j2n.jpeg
>>147138874>actually comparing recipes being shared (for people to actually put in the work preparing) to sloppers taking any and every image they can so they can regurgitate a copyThis has been the biggest embrace of Chinese culture in centuries!
>>147138893>I just need to steal the work of others so that my computer can have a base point to shit out tons of itKeep saying the S word, boy. It doesn't make it anymore real. >So, if someone used your own AI art as part of the training data set to make their own and sad you deserve no credit or money, you'll naturally be 100% okay with it, right?Is that a gotcha? I would love nothing more than my images to live on forever in a machine model. Hundreds or even thousands of years from now when Kids are asking their robots to make them art, a piece of me will live on inside of this forever.It's actually funny how Artists are the nihilists ones who only think about themselves. The beauty of AI is it gives more Humans a voice and chance to express themselves instead of being forced to commission it from someone else.
>>147134166I wish human females were real.
https://files.catbox.moe/hyxy6i.jpeghttps://files.catbox.moe/8b56f2.jpeg
>>147139030>Hundreds or even thousands of years from now when Kids are asking their robots to make them art, a piece of me will live on inside of this forever.No it's not. If it even survives, it won't stand out against the trillions of other slop images like it inside its database in the future you're envisioning.>Kids are asking their robots to make them artAlso not happening. Kids like fucking around with art supplies far too much to rely on robots. That's the domain of boring terminally dull adults and manchildren like you.>>147139026Link's broken, but I do appreciate it
>>147134166I just barely accept this shit from video games because fuck it it's not a huge hit to gameplay. But if you're going to show off "animation" and there's no secondary movement in the hair then what the fuck are you wasting my time for. You/the program can't make that shit fall when she looks down, doesn't moveslightly behind the movements of the head and body. Bitch isn't even doing anything complicated, just swaying back and forth. Too busy jerking it to a pretty face and a pair of covered tits to notice this simple animation is lazy shit.
>>147139030>instead of being forced to commission it from someone else.>"Oh woez is me, I'm just twying to democwatize awtistwy"Or you could stop being a nigger and just pick up a fucking pencil, lol
>>147138874>Food analogy
>>147139027>This has been the biggest embrace of Chinese culture in centuries!Making Pickles is just putting Cucumbers in a jar. But according to you artfags, we should be charging people millions of dollars to learn this? And it should be copyrighted too? LOL.
>>147138766>If I'm the only one who wrote a book about "Dragons fighting Shrek" and you don't carry it but someone is interested, what's stopping me from selling my story to them in private?That's actually a ridiculously silly question.There actually is nothing stopping you from uploading that to fanfiction.net. Gives our QC people a little more time to clean data.I do stress that it's a very unrealistic and, frankly, rather arrogant assumption that there's already an existing market that would knowingly purchase the AI's book.Not just with books, but with all indie media, the presumption that a product will just find a large audience happens about as often as AI writing a good novel (never). As stated before, it's mostly the name that decides it for our case.I do appreciate the subtle nod in that example of yours, as if knowing that AI is driven by the theft of intellectual property.>I'm completely circumventing whatever market or sector you belong to.You are not. You are not reaching anyone with your nonexistent marketing budget. You are not offering a product that stands out. Customers are not looking for your low-quality chatbot outputs.You're a delusional kid who bought his own get-rich-quick scheme.I'm sorry to say, but that's all the idea of selling AI is.
>>147139068Your examples get even more unrelated by the second
>>147139030Holy shit you fucking retard, you really don't see it do youYou're still not creating shit yourself. You're still depending on someone else to make """""art""""" for you. What happens when the people with the keys to the slop factory decide to start charging for the privilege?
>>147138952>Combined with automatic rigging
>>147139068>ignoring my point to continue posting irrelevant strawmenThe absolute state of slopfags
>>147139068Learning to draw is free. Your analogy is busted.
>>147139053>No it's not. If it even survives, it won't stand out against the trillions of other slop images like it inside its database in the future you're envisioning.So now AI doesn't steal or copy work anymore? All the billions of training material turned out to be just noise that doesn't influence the final image that much if at all?WOW. Thank you /co/ for again proving me right once more. >Also not happening. Kids like fucking around with art supplies far too much to rely on robots. That's the domain of boring terminally dull adults and manchildren like you.Sure thing Grampa. And the kids also love walking 4 hours in the snow to school instead of catching the bus? The best argument for AI and tech in general is the new generation adopt it, and the old generation will just become old and miserable.
Hey, to the AIfag's handler, can you please take away this guy's keyboard for his own safety? He's going to start an electric fire by drooling on it.
>>147139153>And the kids also love walking 4 hours in the snow to school instead of catching the bus?AI art is like claiming you're a marathon sprinter because you drive a car
>>147139068Incredible. You display a FUNDAMENTAL inability to understand basic logicWhat's ACTUALLY being critiqued here is that sloppers are taking shoplifting a few jars of pickles off a store shelf, dumping them on the floor, scooping them back in (along with the dirt and a few roaches that came along for the ride) and claiming that they made a brand new jar of pickles that they should be able to sell
>>147139168Except there is no rule against catching a bus to school versus walking. Or using AI to create art.It's not the fucking Olympics, boomer. People just want to live and enjoy themselves.
>>147139153>So now AI doesn't steal or copy work anymore? All the billions of training material turned out to be just noise that doesn't influence the final image that much if at all?Considering how they wouldn't have any of said training material to begin with if they didn't scrape the images...yes. It's still stealing. It's just the difference between buying it from the store and reselling it at a marked up price, and going dumpster diving and marking it up at full price. They're both pathetic sad examples of using someone else's work for chump change.
>>147139182>Or using AI to create art.It's not art, and you're not an artist.
>>147139182>boomerwat
>>147139182>Except there is no rule against catching a bus to school versus walking.There is in a marathon, Indian
>>147139202>watA name for people who are technically illiterate or hyper conservative.Since AI is new tech and a society disruptor, it makes sense that Boomers are the first to oppose it.
>>147139182>pretending like he actually went to school
>>147139217>A name for people who are technically illiterate or hyper conservative.ohhhhh you're one of those dudes that just says things randomly
>>147139209>There is in a marathon, IndianNo one is handing you a medal for drawing unless you actually join an art competition.Believing otherwise is pure schizo.
>>147139053It works for me. I don't understand catbox at all man
>it's just le luddites holding back progressIf machine churned swill is your idea of progress, then the boomers are right on the money That said>acting like boomer suits AREN'T the ones pushing to have actual humans replaced with slop generatorslol
>>147139249>No one is handing you a medal for drawing unless you actually join an art competition.You're the one trying to pass it off as art.
I cannot fucking wait for the next big buzzword laden tech fad to come along and lure off the venture capitalists and pop-tech bros so sloppers can finally shut the fuck up and stay quiet in their goon caves
>>147139241Because it's a metaphor dude. Boomers in real life are more likely to be Conservative. Even if you're not literally 70 years old, you still share the same mindset as those dying dinosaurs.
Funniest part of this whole multi-thread debacle is this guy gave up trying to accuse people of samefagging, and pretty abruptly too
>>147139296No, it's boomers who don't understand how art or technology work think that presume you can make the equivalent of a van gogh by "pressing a button" without any eye or appreciation for it, and somehow make millions with it. Just like you, boomer.
>>147139270>You're the one trying to pass it off as art.Because it is. Bananas taped to a wall are called art, then so is AI.
>>147139296>dying dinosaurs.It's funny because the absolute mental malfunction sloppers are fanatically preaching is just the kind of defect to ripen a population for extinctionThe Amish are going to be raising barns and baking pies long after "the next big thing" goes the way of Bored Apes
>>147134190>one retarded proprietary model represents an entire field of technologykysActual AI bros run their foss models locally.
let me know when i can run this shit on an integrated AMD video card and 8GB ram and i'll start pumping out slop too
>>147139319And you don't understand AI either. Look at this thread and still see all the lunatics who think it's "stealing".I rest my case. Boomer
>b-b-boomerTell me how I know this nigga bought NFTs
>>147139328I would rather have a banana taped to a wall over aislop
>>147139351Is there any AI model which does not use artwork or images created by another human being? And if so, then why aren't people using that?
>>147139382nta but if you are being serious then you simply don't understand how these models work.
>>147139382Elephant paint lora
>>147139366>Tell me how I know this nigga bought NFTsAI: Can create infinite amounts of artwork that anyone can do.NFT: A literal one-of-a-kind token that only one person can own.Nice one dumbfuck. Tell me how those are in any way similar?
>>147134166would look better if animated by a human>b-b-b-b-but-don't care you know its true
Once again he throws out retarded comparisons without understanding what the fuck he's on aboutThe wall banana has been mocked into oblivion AND opened up discussion on the nature of artSloppers just look at the low effort presentation and use mental gymnastics to frame it as an endorsement
>>147139402Definitely not serious, but considering that the argument that AI can make complete "original" works of art keeps being brought up, then that should hypothetically be a possibility>>147139426They're both scams run by idiots who think they can get rich quick by presuming everyone else is dumber than them
>>147139426Because they both rely on buzzword gibberish to attract low-int low-effort imbeciles like you?Also the fact that you SERIOUSLY regurgitated a dyed in the wool NFT tagline more than two years after people at large realized what a sad scam they truly were
>>147139382>Is there any AI model which does not use artwork or images created by another human being? And if so, then why aren't people using that?Because every Artist uses references in order to craft their ideas. When you don't, you end up with Dürer's Rhinoceros.A 16th century artist who never saw the animal before and ended up hallucinating the results.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%BCrer%27s_Rhinoceros>Dürer's Rhinoceros is the name commonly given to a woodcut executed by German artist Albrecht Dürer in 1515.[a] Dürer never saw the actual rhinoceros, which was the first living example seen in Europe since Roman times. Instead the image is based on an anonymous written description and brief sketch of an Indian rhinoceros brought to Lisbon in 1515.[2] Later that year, the King of Portugal, Manuel I, sent the animal as a gift for Pope Leo X, but it died in a shipwreck off the coast of Italy. Another live rhinoceros was not seen again in Europe until Abada arrived from India to the court of Sebastian of Portugal in 1577.[3]Someone in this thread accused me of not knowing art history but I bet your ass I know a lot more than you guys do.
Once again we circle back to the difference between inspiration and ripoffsIt was widely recognized for ages that cynical shit like Asylum films are bullshit even if they meet legal criteria. Or that direct traces are the domain of hacksBut now we have effectively tracing machines that directly function by ripping off existing material and the slopper simps are insisting that it's magically not in the same realm of creative bankruptcy
>>147139446>They're both scams run by idiots who think they can get rich quick by presuming everyone else is dumber than them.Who am I scamming when I make AI Art for myself? You have this weird idea that if a item or object isn't sold immediately it must be fake.
>>147139527>But now we have effectively tracing machinesThat's not how it works retard. It's not tracing anything. When you ask a model for an image it starts from scratch without using any particular artwork as reference.The training material is mostly used so that the AI can assign the necessary weights to understand natural language, so that it knows what someone who asks for "blonde hair" actually means. But the model doesn't search for a picture with blonde hair and copy it.
>>147139484>Because every Artist uses references in Gonna stop you there anon, it's not a "reference" if a direct copy of the original picture is right there inside the robot's brain, even if it's been reduced to nothing but data points since otherwise it's just meaningless pixels in a sea of them.The irony of you using complaining about how faulty Dürer's Rhinoceros was is that this is how AI art looks from the way you idiots keep presenting it; Some jackoff gives a written description of something to an intelligence that has zero conception of what the final product should look like, it tries its damndest based solely off key words, the end slop gets sold as high art and extolled as an "accurate" depiction, and then the guy who bought it is left being ridiculed as an idiot for believing that's what a fucking rhino is once an actual accurate portrait is made later by someone who's actually seen a real rhino. And you're SURPRISED people are calling you stupid for settling for hackneyed slop?
>>147139600nta>it's not a "reference" if a direct copy of the original picture is right there inside the robot's brainNothing you have to say on AI can be taken seriously because you don't understand even the basics of the technology involved. You are seething about something you don't understand. Pretty irrational behaviour.
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>>147139631>seethingStop samefagging
>>147139631>You just don't understand how it works!Bruh, I've personally trained lora and you cannot fucking do that without putting in art that already exists. Get a new response.
I dont hate it but I can't in good conscience partake in it knowing the databases have snuff and CP in them and it baffles me that no one else seems to care abou this part.
>>147134166I have always argued the point that AI art IS legitimate art, and that it belongs in any and all threads, providing it relates to the thread's subject!I will continue to post AI art no matter how many anons object to it, and call me names, and insult me!Thank you for starting this thread, OP!You are NOT a "Faggot", or "Autistic"!
>>147139735>retard thinks he's a software engineer because he followed a how-to for dummies guide to do the most basic tuningbravo
>>147139799>I dont hate it but I can't in good conscience partake in it knowing the databases have snuff and CP in them and it baffles me that no one else seems to care abou this part.This is fearmongering. It was trained on the public internet. If someone uploaded snuff on Wikipedia we don't call Wikipedia evil.
>>147139799Lots of people care about that. They just get called luddites.
>>147139838I believe in the responsible use of references. If my sexy is possibly trained on CP I want none of it, neither I want my violence to be directly lifted from the taliban decapitating innocents.It's not like they lack the money to properly curate the databases, they are just greedy and lazy.
>>147139735Since you're such a genius on how AI works, you wont have any trouble understanding this picture right? Go ahead and tell /co/ exactly what latent space is? Or what the formula x ∈ R T ×3×H˜ ×W˜ means in relation to Ex∼pdata,τ∼pτ ,ϵ∼N(0,I) ∥y − fθ(xτ ; c, τ )∥22?Don't be shy. I want to hear your full answer.
>>1471389522D mecha is the best-looking mecha though. 3D is already easy for humans to do but most hesitate to draw them 2D now. If cost-cutting is the main focus of art then it will never reach its peak.If AI can faithfully recreate the hand-drawn mecha styles of the 80s/90s in high quality OVA-level animation, then I will consider it to truly be good. Ideally, it should surpass the consistency and detail of human creations.
>>147139892Latent space is proximity based embedding of a set of items within a manifold space. So essentially you have a group based around a certain idea, like say, big anime titties, and then the individual items (the stolen art you insist doesn't exist) is organized based around its proximity to that idea. so the more big anime titties in the pic, the closer it is to the core idea. Your next response is NUH UH THAT'S NOT IT.
>>147139876>I believe in the responsible use of references.If my sexy is possibly trained on CP I want none of it, neither I want my violence to be directly lifted from the taliban decapitating innocents.It's not like they lack the money to properly curate the databases, they are just greedy and lazy.Except AI gets curated all the time. Some of the most in demand and highest paying jobs in the world right now are looking for expert trainers who can follow guidelines and teach AI models. If this was a product of "laziness" then go ahead and apply to the myriad of AI jobs right now. You probably wouldn't even last a day because it's much more serious than just "dump picture and forget it". And again, the hysteria about CP or taliban is exaggerated. Like one of the links actually goes to reddit which has since been deactivated or doesn't yield results at all.People are just looking for excuses to bash the tech without doing proper research.
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>>147138542You need a style first to use AI in your style.
>>147139963>neither I want my violence to be directly lifted from the taliban decapitating innocentsI watched some terrorist propaganda video (I don't remember which group it was, they're all the same to me) and it was really well done. They did a slow-mo of the bullet going through the guy's head, it was like a movie. They're probably better sources of high-quality violence than some worldstar video filmed by a mentally retarded cameraman.
>>147139930>2D mecha is the best-looking mecha though. 3D is already easy for humans to do but most hesitate to draw them 2D now. If cost-cutting is the main focus of art then it will never reach its peak.If AI can faithfully recreate the hand-drawn mecha styles of the 80s/90s in high quality OVA-level animation, then I will consider it to truly be good. Ideally, it should surpass the consistency and detail of human creations.So understand that AI can draw pictures in less than a minute.Even those fake Pixar memes made with AI are still rendered out faster than the time it takes the studio to finish a movie. AI drawing 2D mecha is actually not a challenge at all. I would even argue it might not even need 3D references to do it either.
>>147139963>Except AI gets curated all the time.You guys don't even curate your output why should we trust you're doing that for your input? Especially when you lie about it?>Reddit deleted the links to CP that means it was bogusI mean...I don't even necessarily believe it to be true but that seriously can't be your counterargument can it? Even 4chan deletes links to CP.
>>147139963https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/21/tech/child-sexual-abuse-material-ai-training-data/index.htmlWhat is this then? Is the media just lying?
>>147140007>They're probably better sources of high-quality violence than some worldstar video filmed by a mentally retarded cameraman.Ok, but can the AI discriminate between what is good and bad reference?
>>147139945Ok, so you lied about your experience and I can pinpoint every inaccuracy you made. 1. Latent space does involve embedding data points in a manifold space but it’s more about capturing the essential features and variations in the data rather than just proximity-based embedding.2. It does not group items based on "ideas" but on learned features and patterns from the training data.3. It does not involve copying stolen art. The model learns abstract features from the data without directly copying images.4. While similar items may be closer in latent space, it's not about proximity to a "core idea" but about the features that the model has learned.Do you want to try again or do you really believe that's how latent space works? Why don't you break down the math for us if you're so informed?
>>147139977Damn, we better ban Photoshop too! Because someone can edit their school picture and make everyone naked in it. Clearly Adobe only launched this program for the purpose of cheese pizza.
>>147140075>in the data>training data>from the dataWhere's the data coming from Mansley? Your ass?
>>147140108It's funny you say this because Adobe is in hot water for wanting to monitor your projects specifically because they know people will use their new AI tools to make CP.
>>147140038They were removed 2 years ago, and newer models have been updated to not use them.
>>147140200So you've gone from >it didn't happen you're fear mongering to >okay so it happened but it's not happening anymoreand you think that makes anything you say trustworthy?
>>147140108I started with 7 when I was a deviantart-posting sperg teen, but had the most experience timewise with CS2 when I finally gave up drawing, long before the age of twitter and social media as we know it.
>>147139977Thank god we stopped that criminal and his thoughtcrimes.
>>147140219No, it's still hysteria to think that 1,000 offensive images (that came from public sources already on the internet) out of a dataset of 5.85 billion represents some malicious and deliberate attempt by AI companies.Use common sense and it was always a nothingburger.
>>147139803The problem is not with AI, the issue is that "new media" has become accessible to the unwashed masses, and unsurprising, have ZERO self control when it comes to anything. Look at any of the r34 sites and they are flooded by thousands of the same-prompt gens done by the same talentless retard who can't tell what is 'good' and what isn't.
>>147140307I dunno man, we are not talking about cricket pieces in a chocolate bar, this is much more serious.>malicious and deliberatemaybe not but its still negligent
>>147140315>Look at any of the r34 sites and they are flooded by thousands of the same-prompt gens done by the same talentless retard who can't tell what is 'good' and what isn't.Now it is being mass produced, but shitty fanart has always outnumbered good fanart by an absurd margin. It's slop vs quality, not human vs machine.
>>147134166I'm just waiting for more like this. Most of the other stuff posted in this thread is meh.
>>147139977Based. Pedos belong in a wood chipper>>147140108>>147140252Pedos detected. Wood chipper is ready.
This is how I feel it is now, way to much content, some content creators left or put out less work or paywall their stuff now, way to much a.i. art, I don't mind Korra booba on Diviant Art but it's all the same
>>147140420any thread winners?
>look at these amazing animations!>said animations are just rotoscoped live action videos with ai bimbos pasted overWhere's the 2D frame by frame AI animation? The AI claymation? Hell, I'll take some 3D disney looking stuff. If you sold the shit posted in this thread as animation normalfags would laugh you out of the room.
>>147140493I think the next big jump will be video2video
Music AI threads when? https://www.veed.io/view/5b289206-733a-48fe-a8b1-57f6c44fe340?panel=share
>>147140513What's that mean even?
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>>147140557CoolHow long until it looks halfway decent and lasts more than 3 seconds?
>>147140493Shut up, complete opposite of Dogbert.Here's your believable immersive 2D animation: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zEGXZ-q4tx0
>>147140130>Where's the data coming from?According to Stability's CEO. . .>We took 100,000 gigabytes of images and compressed it to a two-gigabyte file that can recreate any of those [images] and iterations of those.https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.407208/gov.uscourts.cand.407208.223.0_2.pdf^Footnote at the bottom of page 9.
>>147140549input a video as source add prompt to get output videoexample, use clip of Olympic volleyball girls as inputPrompt, X-Men, Storm, Rogue, etc, bootyoutput will be X-Men ladies playing vollyball
>>147140557>UndertaleKek, what the fuck?
>>147140573Is this a shitpost? Genuinely can't tell anymore
>>147140493Be the change you want to be anon.You said normalfags would laugh at the posted examples, but in real life they were far more picky with the examples you listed.Technology already existed to perfectly mimic claymation but the movie still ended up bombing. If you can do better then do it. Otherwise don't complain.
>>147140490>>147138061>>147138160>>147139040These aren't bad. Pretty hot.>>147138156This is pretty funny. The OP one is still the best.
>>147140596>missing my point this hardIm convinced only a bot or an ESL could be this clueless
>>147140617yeah booba is always nice
>>147138542You're not adapting, you're building yourself on a foundation of sand just like the Calarts fags and Xtreme artists like Liefeld. You're only setting yourself up for failure by not learning the fundamentals.
>>147140618The tools are literally free dude. Why wait for those examples you care so much about when you can create them yourself? I basically explained to you why those examples you listed are niche. Most people have always cared about the photorealistic or detailed styles because it's what is popular or sells. There really is no other reason to complain unless you take action and make an impact.
>>147140557>>147140589someone was wondering why obscure characters barely get shit from AIfags but I think this actually sums it upif you're a shitposter like Toby and your character has essentially zero actual references to draw from then it's basically all fanart, but everyone is drawing so differently that the AI has no idea what to actually do so it just keeps spitting out random designs that vaguely match the profile based on all the fanart getting globohomo'd together
>>147140664>The tools are literally free dude.Assuming you have a 4080 or better. But why count that cost?
>>147140684>But why count that cost?Because there are online websites that let you do the same job for free without owning the hardware?
If people watch South Park & Family Guy's cheap slop "animation" then they will watch AI.Companies are just up their own ass, that's why they refuse to copy Epithet Erased.Companies are just up their own ass, that's why they refuse to copy Skibidi Toilet.It's better for them to simply not make stuff nobody cares about if the internet took over television.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UICB_eZ0xpU&ab_channel=AllenArtificialBig companies are getting filled with ESLs & Gen-Z who would choke on a paperbag.It's time for the talented to grab the reigns again and rediscover technologies and fix current technology:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQuIVsNzqDk&ab_channel=CorridorCrewRight now AI sucks because you don't have the source files, it refuses to create source files.The pajeet dumbasses didn't think about how important it is to have the source files of them. They're only now thinking about putting the AI in a Matrix/an environment for it to learn what works and what doesn't ... something a white man would have come up with 90 years ago.A white man also wouldn't have coded AI in Python, neither fed the AI on the internet, neither not employ filters for the neuronal networks before feeding it on useless internet trash. Idiocracy was wrong about stupidity being genetic, it's spreading. Jews do not care about quality.>So is AI good?Yes, just like robots are good, just like religion is good, just like politics are good, but not in the hands of morons with 69 IQs such as pajeets and gen-Z.Notice how pajeets and ESL(Elon Musk) never watched or understood anything about robots and hence are making mistakes they have been warned about by white people 90 years ago across 90 years.Robots/automatons/golems such as Pinnochio have been a concept since way before trains were invented. They were a concept since clocks were invented.
Thing is, you can't shut Pandora's box now that it's open. For better or worse AI is here to stay on the internet. These generation models are popping up faster and faster all over the internet. Even the most basic normies have some initiation on how to use this shit now. Eventually it will bleed into the production pipeline for animation even if it's for smaller pieces of it to save on costs for the backgrounds. It's shit but it's just reality now, all we can do is make peace with it and hope it's used intelligently to make things better (it won't be.)
>>147140715I suppose that's technically true, so long as you're okay with the shit quality, watermarks, and waiting a month for your complimentary credits to refresh after burning them on failed generations.
>>147140571Nigga stop pretending the technology hasn't been rapidly improving for years nowNot that long ago you fags were saying that AI would never be able to draw hands.>>147140665>>147140589These are from a thread on /v/ a while back which was basically "guess the game from a short AI video".
>>147140754Storyboard type stuffYou see a.i. art all the time in shorts, generated warhammer while generated narrator talks, generated statues while someone quotes stoicism, that kind of crap
>>147140757A month? Credits refresh for me daily. And given how fast this technology is evolving, you underestimate how many competitors are about to show up.More website options = more free generations. What's to hate?This is an example 2D animation video and it cost $0. Again, no more excuses.
>>147140664>you can create them yourselfLying faggot, I'm 100% not the first idiot to ask that question. If there were good examples they'd be in the thread right now, but they arent. This is the comics and cartoons board and the AI can't convincingly produce either
It absolutely involved some lesser known characters from indie games btw
>>147136192I agree that turning the original characters into grotesquely deformed bimbo whales is disgusting and they all deserve to be burned at the stake, but that's not what the AI animation was at all.
WHAT ABOUT THE BONUS SITUATION?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXUuogWge5Q&ab_channel=TheVault
>>147140814Cope.One just got posted above you.>>147140810And this is the worst AI will ever be. Expect next month it will look 100x better again. And soon it will prompt whole movies.
>>147140819Maybe say that when there isn't a Dall-e 'what if elsa but bigger titties' thread up?
>>147140810>A month? Credits refresh for me daily.kling and I think vidu are monthly.
>>147140809>Storyboard type stuffAI art almost always has horrible frame composition though
>>147140799>Not that long ago you fags were saying that AI would never be able to draw hands.It still can't. Not consistently.And yes, I'm using adetailer and controlnet.
>>147140866Dry erase the basic frame compimg2img
>>147140799>he says while posting an incoherent webm where the subject has 9 fingersThe lack of self awareness is staggering
>>147140841All the examples in this thread are terrible
>>147140857Welp, it's up to you if you want to miss out on the fun. This is the first time in Human history everyone can make animation at a push of a button.To me I'm just grateful it exists at all. Show this to someone in 1999 and they would have thought you were Jesus or Merlin.
>>147140897>Show this to someone in 1999 and they would have thought you were Jesus or Merlin.I'm not surprised to hear this analogy from someone that thinks it's actual magic and not hard science
>>147140888Excuse yourfucking self? >>147140838 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJsYXHCJD54&ab_channel=CyberChaosCrewYou're terrible and you suck, gen-Z. You swallowed the anti AI pill tenfold and you can't even be arsed to push a few buttons to get what you want anymore.
>>147140883For what purposeIf you already have the know how to put the frame comp to paper why run it through an AI? It's a storyboard, it's not meant to be high effort
lol, Kling is still much better, look at her dumbass hand and wtf is she talking about
>>147140914gotta sell it to some suits
>>147134180Yeah so people need to quit bitching about itI await my AI overlords, sheeeit at least they and the Vietcong never called me n-gger
>>147140918OMFG its like Laura is talking to me i love ai now.
For about 2 and a half years now AI image generation has clearly been good enough to where you could feasibly just redraw over it and make some sort of comic, but looking at a thread like this it's no wonder that no actual new IP comes out of this crap - it's like literally NOTHING besides the iconography of a technically-moving image matters.I'm genuinely gobsmacked here, have you guys gone your whole life just not actually liking anything because you thought "wow, the story is pretty good"???.
>>147140904Keep seething, boomer. AI shit will always suck, no matter how much you stamp your feet otherwise
>>147140950No... I... I only goon now... what has become of me?
>>147140897I didn't say I wasn't using the stuff. The fact that I'm using it is why I know the limitations of it; specifically the fact that you can waste the 3 free generations hailuo gives you a day on shitty generations so it takes like a week to get something of sufficient quality to be worth saving. And that assumes you're okay with the watermarks and don't want to add lipsynching or anything like that.
>>147140950It looks like Newgrounds Flash animation
>>147140932What?
>>147140897>This is the first time in Human history everyone can make animation at a push of a button.Except nobody is making animation at the push of a button. A computer is making everything based on pre-existing art and animation. If we hadn't made the animation prior this would have nothing to take from to generate shitty animation. This is like pasting a face over a video and claiming you made a new video. There's more art in a YTP than there is in shitting out AIslop.
>>147140970chicken butt
>>147140899>I'm not surprised to hear this analogy from someone that thinks it's actual magic and not hard science.It can be both. Humans have been fighting and trying to wipe each other out for thousands of years. So to see Humanity make it this far and pull off this tech feels very close to a miracle or luck.Millions of people before me never even got to see the invention of the Car or Airplanes. Yet a "make cartoon button" would have instantly shattered their minds.I'm happy to be alive and want to see more progress.
Even as someone that likes playing around with this stuff I have to admit the people that are into it are fucking insufferable and if all the sites went down tomorrow that'd be fine.
How long until AI learns what a smear frame is? And then how long before the frames are actually clean enough to read independently?
>>147139130Time is not free, actually
>>147140996Please stop posting slop.
>>147140996The anti-AI crowd is far worse. At least we're not going on witchhunts and chasing people in real life. I just want to generate cute characters and funny memes. No harm is done.
>>147141047Literally no one in this thread is stopping you. You've always been free to make as much garbage as you want. Your butthurt is the only reason you're still here.
>>147140950AI's best use has proven to be letting people generate hundreds of images of their waifu staring walleyed into space. The people who like it most seem absolutely content with using it that way and obviously don't have the skill to pour any ounce of production or writing into it.
I'm going to assume that the constant AI generals (always hitting bump AND image limit, the latter of which is more important) combined with actual 4chan users leaving (I've seen an odd amount of people on /v/ of all places complain about it being "slow" """""now""""", which is insane to me) is why the price of passes is suddenly going up
>>147141108AI should be banned on this site period.
>>147141082>The people who like it most seem absolutely content with using it that way and obviously don't have the skill to pour any ounce of production or writing into it.Even when honest to god good AI quality with good writing is made, the haters still go nuts. Just look at the Alien thread. A completely fresh and original idea with a lot of polish, it still gets bashed for being connected to AI.
>>147141082Who cares everyone else does
>>147134166Is this the same chick who get gangbanged by a pack of werewolf?
>>147141130Shut up you fucking whiny ass bitch holy shit. Turn it off if it bothers you that much, you don't own this board.
>>147140950Because most of the people saying AI will finally allow them to create never had the ambition to create in the first place. The thing about people who end up being artists is, they were attempting to create even when they sucked at it. Comic artists have shitty comics drawn in notebooks when they were 6, animators have rudimentary animations they made when they were 9, movie makers made shitty home movies, etc.If you're like 27, you wanted to make something, but never put anything together or attempted more than some early starts and gave up, having AI isn't going to change things. You're just going to make novelty images for yourself, and that's fine.
>>147141149Everything here gets bashed, where do you think we are man?
>>147141130Hopefully no one listens to you. Makes as much sense as banning electricity.
>>147141176It says something how even fucking Chris-chan has more willpower and ambition than those sad fucks
>>147138493NGMI
>>147141082AI and it's consequences have been a disaster for rule34 websites.
>>147141130Only gays need to be banned, they are the only ones crying about AI
I don't get why pajeets are so desperate to get people to accept AI while also thinking it's inevitable. Why not just allow things to happen by their own weight?
Hey you. Yeah you, you make that lois einhorn image for me yet? I'm eagerly waiting, it don't have to be an ai image. I'll accept actual drawn art, hell I'll accept a full on cosplay attempt so long as there's a tucked back pp bulge.
>>147141232The novelty's already losing its luster, so they're desperate to grift as much money as possible before normies completely disregard it
>>147141208And Chris-Chan will be remembered for being a joke.I can make a better Sonic OC that looks and acts better in seconds now.
>>147138766So what is the utility in AI-gen art? Rapid prototyping of a concept? Where is the refinement, because the current "randomness" or blended amalgamation of every AI generation is unrepeatable.
Why haven't the drawthreads disappeared yet since AI is SO amazing and any request can be fulfilled with a single button press???
>>147141253>I can make a better Sonic OC than Chris-chanSaddest thing is, he probably still mogs your lack of effort because he at least bothered to give his shitty recolors a name and backstory
Probably off topic but those anyone know some good sites like nudify
>>147139054AI can't replicate Marc Davis 1:1. My job as 2D animator is safe.
>>147140950This is going to border on what >>147141176 said, but the honest impressing I get is that techbros never wanted to "make" something, even though that's one of the typical propaganda points - what they really, truly wanted is just an infinite CONSUMABLE PRODUCT machine. A literal 24/7 deluge of visual images, bright lights, flashing colors, random sound effects, like autoplay short-form video content farm sewage, but even worse. It's not about if it's even "good" per se, it's about having some kind of constant stimulus to react to starting indefinitely at a screen until they unconsciously pass out, then getting back up and starting the whole cycle again.But even then, part of me genuinely thinks they don't even really "like" AI, or what they generate from it, I honestly get this impression of this platonic obsession with the ability to generate a theoretically endless amount of "content", like a dopamine rush every time some new image or clip is spat out. Have you ever seen screencaps of some of those guys on Deviantart that have 30,000, 40,000, even 50,000+ AI-genned images uploaded to their accounts? Think about what's going on there for a second: these guys are, at bare minimum, generating roughly around one hundred images baseline, and then uploading ALL of them onto the platform, literally every single day. Even if it's [popular character] (big boobs) generations, I just can't see someone like this actually jacking off to (literally, but also figuratively) what they've made - it's the fact that they -can- make it that's made them go bananas. It's basically an elaborate power fantasy, and when you have someone like the guy here constantly droning on about how he'll make infinite "movies" I get that same impression; it's not about actually watching any of it, it's about just constantly making them, uploading them, and filling up as many storage devices as possible, all for the sake of getting an infinite rush.
>>147141256>So what is the utility in AI-gen art? Rapid prototyping of a concept? Where is the refinement, because the current "randomness" or blended amalgamation of every AI generation is unrepeatable.The utility is being able to generate high quality art without needing or paying for a second party.That in itself is worth gold. People can finally express themselves with no limits.
>>147139328The banana had monetary value, because someone paid for it. Like NFTs. Art only has value if someone is willing to pay. Otherwise, it's a nice hobby.
>>147140957>boomerAre you mentally retarded?
>>147141221xxx users have been good at tagging it at least, it's easy to filter it out
>>147141296People absolutely like what they generate, it's why they gen what they gen.
>>147141253And that's why no one will remember your name.
>>147140904wait is that alien thing supposed to be an example of good AI?
Gen-Zers are so fucking weird and divided, the question is how many are pro and anti AI?Same for pro-porn and anti porn.Gen-Zers are such a chaotic species that refuses to get along with their own generation, let alone other generations.
>>147141305But again...there is no gold being made or transacted. Where is the profit? Renting render farm space from a data center? Is it just a faster means to wank? Is there no long term use?
>>147141413>No capitals and no punctuation.Back to Ohio with you, redneck.
>>147134166SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>147141432Why is that a bad thing? Balance is important,Look at millenials who almost all turned into leftists and ruined everything.
>>147141475Balance is bad when the distribution is bipolar. Look no further than Korea
>>147141253I like the movement on this one.
>>147141495oh no they got him
>>147141305>People can finally express themselves with no limits.There already were zero limits on creativity, but even in terms of pure technical skill, AI is far more restrictive than doing it yourself because you ultimately have limited control over what it decides to spit out, no matter how lengthy your prompts are. You can give it extremely detailed instructions to create a slutty 3D cartoon girl if you want, but unlike if you were making it yourself, the AI still makes the final decision as to how it looks. You might be able to create with little skill, but you're still relinquishing a greater degree of personalization in favor of efficacy.Even in terms of commissioning someone else, you still have more control over the final product than with AI, because the human mind will always have a better understanding of what you want from it than a machine ever can. A human can read the text "3D animation of slutty cartoon girl" and immediately understand what it represents, because they know what all those words mean on their own and what they would signify when placed together in that order. The AI, on the other hand, has to sort through extensive datasets to determine which images it's been fed are associated with terms such as "3D", "slutty", "girl", etc. Regardless of its capabilities, it's still a mindless machine that can't ever truly know what any of those words mean.
>>147141490At least in Korea women also get fired for saying sexist shit, western men are just cucked.
>>147141495Glad you like it. Here's another.Sonic characters are really expressive in AI.Makes sense, the franchise always embraced its cartoony roots. >>147141452The long term is me generating clips/animations/movies forever, for as long as I live.When we get video game generators I'll use that too.
>>147141502>No capitals and no punctuationGO KILL YOURSELF.
>>147140932Why would the suits listen to you when the suits themselves can cut out the middleman for pennies on the dollar?
>>147141581Considering you can't even name your dumb sonic OC, the idea you'll actually bother making a movie or video game instead of just jerking yourself off to the fantasy of doing so is laughable
>>147141595I shan't.
>>147141518So just like movie productions? :) where the executive producer + director + script writer + concept artist have to direct a thousand people?
>>147141581>When we get video game generators I'll use that too.yeah I think I get the "infinite product" post now, what's even the angle here? you clearly don't actually want to play anything, there's no franchise you like in a way that isn't ironic, you just want to make infinite stuff like a coke addict
>>147141581What prompt do you use for this burst-type movement? excited, giddy, sudden, fast?Kling AI 1.6 is getting real goodI just hope AI will finally bother releasing source files on layers & timeline soon.The people behind Rock,Paper,Anime couldn't wait and just fixed the artifacts themselves like 3 years ago. I wonder what they'll do next.
>>147141518>You can give it extremely detailed instructions to create a slutty 3D cartoon girl if you want, but unlike if you were making it yourself, the AI still makes the final decision as to how it looks.Sorry but that's outdated information. You can plug in existing references or ideas and AI will follow them consistently.It's not actually a random text prompt. That is for giving instructions to the camera or changing the poses. >>147141606Ok, her name is Rebecca. Happy now?
Have a cute girl for your troubles.
>>147141149>Even when honest to god good AI quality with good writing is made,Hasn't happened yet. Your standards are just low.
>>147141679Amazing. It looks absolute shit. Great job.
>>147141518>AI is far more restrictive than doing it yourself because you ultimately have limited control over what it decides to spit out, no matter how lengthy your prompts are.This wont last much longer, probably. Think of where AI art was even a year ago compared to where it's at now. People used to make fun of how grotesque the hands/eyes/limbs that these generators would spit out were. Now, it mostly looks fine unless you're looking directly at it and you notice a pinkie morphing with an index finger. These "restrictions", which are real, are temporary. These machines are just getting better and better, which is why the conversation shifted from "it looks bad" to "it's not real art" and "it's unreliable."
>>147141631>you clearly don't actually want to play anything, there's no franchise you like in a way that isn't ironicNonsense, I would love to play the game of my dreams that isn't tied to any current limitations like modern games are. Such as a Grand Theft Auto game where you don't live in just one city. Imagine the entire USA being a playable map?Rockstar would never have the time or budget to pull that off but with AI, it would be possible.>>147141657Sorry, I didn't write them down. But there is a documentation online that can help you write better prompts:https://sixth-switch-2ac.notion.site/Hailuo-AI-tutorial-1446c20a98eb802c94c5d9ebcb497401
Your posts reads like an Indian using ChatGPT, sorry.
>>147117502>>147120306>>147140503what the fuck is happening today?
>>147141108I’m always in the general here posting. I wonder how often /co/ outsiders come in our thread and how many have it filtered. A lot of outsiders seemed to like my annabelle’s wish OP image for christmas on it
>>147141704It still looks bad lolFive seconds of partially morphing mediocrityI am genuinely prepared to admit if it looks objectively good but every single preaching AItist only ever proves they just have low standards
>>147141768Generative model faggots leave their containment ghetto all the time.
>>147141615Exactly!AI is the perfect one man studio. And writing prompts is exactly like being the Director. That's what makes these tools fun. It's your imagination that is allowed to run wild and the machine will follow your every wish or command.
>>147141681You have described the userbase of every single generative model
>>147141768It seems like some sperg got off his meds and is going all out today. Either that or some third world marketing firm is doing some astroturfing (probably whatever Chink company is watermarked on all these garbage clips).
>>147141781The point is that it's not going to stay that way. You can say it looks bad, but it looks objectively better than it did a year ago, in every way you could think to measure. Why would that trend not continue?
>>147134166AI generated images always look cheap Chinese mobile game art. How anyone thinks this looks good is beyond me.
>>147141802You do know movies are longer than a few seconds, right?
>>147141851It presently looks bad, and that's what matters in terms of whether people are going to care or not
>>147141851objectively you're a lazy bitch with zero talent and have brain filled with deep fried neurons
>>147141853Because Humans draw far worse shit like Memphis. Not to mention, you can generate images that are woke free.
>>147141851Again, why the fucking impatience?People are going to care when it's good, no one wants to eat it half-baked.
>>147141851That's a different goal post than "it looks fine now" but whateverCurrently every form of technology labeled "AI" has the venture capital money faucet turned on under the expectation that they will replace all their workersI do not expect that to last forever, nor for everything to advance at the same rate foreverSomething looking less shitty in a few years does not mean looking perfect in a few more
>>147141768>>147141837>search the watermarked company name>they just released somethingHardcore shilling I guess.
>>147141894AI is this but faster lol
>>147141866Yes I'm sure one of the fastest growing technologies in the world is something people don't care about lmao>>147141872Objectively, you're a fucking mouth breather who is terrified of the inevitable
>>147141866>It presently looks bad, and that's what matters in terms of whether people are going to care or notSomeone tell Pixar to cancel Toy Story. No one is going to watch it because it looks uncanny!
>>147141930So when I show something to someone and they say it looks like shit, I should tell them "well imagine it might not, eventually!"
>>147141908>Currently every form of technology labeled "AI" has the venture capital money faucet turned on under the expectation that they will replace all their workersWho is shifting goal posts here exactly? Are we talking about generated art or are we talking about labor?
>>147141920You know, maybe it is a good thing this site is rapidly losing it's userbaseHave fun trying to shill to robots simulating discourse, my friends
>>147141931Toy Story looked good for it's time thoughAI shit looks bad and its brand new
>>147141949This includes artists, dipshit
>>147141948Yes this is basically how every technology has worked for all of existence. Early adopters -> majority -> late majority -> laggards
>>147141931What could you compare Toy Story to when it came out?What can you compare slop to now?
I get this distinct impression that AIfags hate /a/ because they think the moderation over there is stinky
>>147141930If people care why are you losing your time with the few people who don't care?
>>147141920Fucking amazing, caught red handed blatantly in the cookie jar. Shit like this is why this place is fucking dying. Shills like these figured out they can run game and outrage articles here for free and no one will be the wiser. Fucking hell the internet sucks now.
>>147141965That doesn't have anything to do with my point, moron
>>147141768Mods being a bunch of fags that refuse to do the basics of their job is what
>>147141980It's fun to argue with people
>>147141994It boosts engagement :^)Seriously, have you seen those dogshit slop picture, single sentence question threads?
>>147141978You'd be wrong because most of the posts in this thread are mine and I don't care about /a/. I've been making both anti and pro ai posts just stoking the fire.
>>147141663>You can plug in existing references or ideas and AI will follow them consistently.That's missing the point; even if you give the AI extremely precise stylistic instructions, it still decides how it wants to make something look independently. With very few exceptions, it'll never be able to perfectly match what you've conceptualized in your head, at least not to the same degree if you made it yourself. Just because it's much easier doesn't make it more freeing than doing it manually.
>>147141597profit
>>147142006>I've been making both anti and pro ai posts just stoking the fire.well fuck me I was doing the same
>>147142005The mods are there, they'll hyper moderate any particular shit thread they want. It's just that literal spam like this it's just crickets
>>147141999Wouldn't it make more sense to go to /ic/ to argue with the people who actually feel personally attacked by AI?Here you just sound like a third worlder desperately trying to sell a product.
>>147142034How would (You) add them profit when you're a nobody using a tool a trained monkey can do (i.e. themselves). You don't get to be a professional idea guy unless you're already there through nepotism.
>>147142031>That's missing the point; even if you give the AI extremely precise stylistic instructions, it still decides how it wants to make something look independently.That is not true. If I ask for a dancing Cheerleader, it's going to give me a dancing Cheerleader pose. I don't care if the AI picks her right arm or left arm to do it. If I wanted control over that, I could give out more commands. And it's still my concept because I asked the AI to make a pose I was thinking of for me.
>>147142055/co/ is the only board I frequent. I'm not actually invested in the argument or AI art in general. It's just funny how confused people are on the topic; you poke them just a bit and immediately they fall apart.
>>147142112>And it's still my concept because I asked the AI to make a pose I was thinking of for me.How is that different from searching on google images?
>>147142147>How is that different from searching on google images?Google images can make and animate cartoons I supply it? Since when?
>>147142178Google images is cheaper since some other loser did the work for you. Probably some dumb fuck relying on Ai art posting it for free, too.
>>147142178You basically searching a glorified database with vague terms to get a nonspecific result then attributing said result to be a creation of your mind.
>>147142128Well ok, but in case you actually happen to be a shill you should know that you did a terrible job at getting more people to use MiniMax; you are just poisoning the well.
>>147142204Why the fuck would I look at google images when I have animated videos that are more powerful?>>147142213Nope, because I have ideas that are entirely custom and look differently.
>>147142253Cause it's free>I have ideasNo you don't lol
Ay, I just made this. It took me what, 25 seconds?https://files.catbox.moe/4ykioi.jpeg
Weird how the activity in this thread just immediately died
