>Over the past many months, I have watched the stories circulating the internet about me with horror and dismay. I’ve stayed quiet until now, both out of respect for the people who were sharing their stories and out of a desire not to draw even more attention to a lot of misinformation. I've always tried to be a private person, and felt increasingly that social media was the wrong place to talk about important personal matters. I've now reached the point where I feel that I should say something.>Like most of us, I’m learning, and I'm trying to do the work needed, and I know that that's not an overnight process. I hope that with the help of good people, I'll continue to grow. I understand that not everyone will believe me or even care what I say but I’ll be doing the work anyway, for myself, my family and the people I love. I will be doing my very best to deserve their trust, as well as the trust of my readers. At the same time, as I reflect on my past – and as I re-review everything that actually happened as opposed to what is being alleged – I don't accept there was any abuse. To repeat, I have never engaged in non-consensual sexual activity with anyone.
>>147147139Don't be mean to the handicapped
>>147147048No no I’m sorry e have to Believe All Women (TM) and it’s far too convenient for him to change his tune now.
This has to be the most bland legal speak apology Neil could have given. Zero integrity.
>>147147048Eh I buy it after listening to the full Tortoise podcast. Paints a really different picture to the NYT article. The girl sounds like a needy, mentally ill BPD mess and was enthusiastic about fucking him for months according to her own texts to the extent of saying shit about how she was "desperate for spankings from master".The police ended up more or less calling her retarded and threw the case out for good reason.
>>147147048On the one hand it’s hard to believe someone who was allegedly abused so badly for so long and didn’t just, like, leave and only comes forward years later. On the other hand the idea of someone as self-righteous and up-their-own-ass as Amanda Palmer being outted as a groomer and sex pest literally gives me wood.
>>147147048That's not a "no" is it?
>>147148545He’s trying to deny while also trying not to sound like a massive hypocrite after how hard he pushed “believe all women”. He’s in a real tight spot.
>>147147048Innocent.
>>147148557https://youtu.be/lW2pXu97Yvo?si=u4GK4bPSfMNpRB2k&t=189
>>147147527There are a lot of other things that would point to Gaiman having zero integrity but you picked "bland legal speak during an ongoing legal case" like the midwit you are
>Scarlett Pavlovich, a former nanny for Gaiman and Palmer's child, alleges that Gaiman sexually assaulted her within hours of their first meeting in February 2022.>Other allegations include that Gaiman referred to Pavlovich as "slave", an epithet she says was repeated by his son, and that Gaiman made her perform oral sex while his penis had urine on it, causing her to vomit, which he then made her eat. She stated that Gaiman had anal sex with her in the presence of his son.Based
>>147148558The battle of the innocent.
>>147148558Maybe he didn't rape anyone, but he's still a weird sex pervert.
>>147148558
>>147147048>I believe in all victims and so should you. I am not a perfect man. I shall try my best to atone for my sins and do better. It's important in times like these to be empathetic and stand beside victims.>Cunt is a liar though. I dindu nuffin. lollmao
>>147148953Pretty much this, if I ever become famous I’m using a pseudonym, I don’t want to give my exes the opportunity to tell the world about my foot fetish/shemale fetish/being a slave fetish
>>147147527He's half jew and half scientologist, what do you expect? He knows he's fucked and there are probably worse shit that can be revealed, he will probably migrate to Israel very soon.
>>147148591The thing is if Gayman was serious he would give a personal statement. This reads like he got an assistant to write it.
>>147149752reading between the lines his father was a predator who probably sexually abused him
>>147147826Based
>Go around touching people without permission, bullying them or similar>Someone tells>Life is ruined>"I-I'M SO SORRY, NOBODY'S PERFECT, I DIDN'T MEAN IT, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"We should start issuing the death penalty as punishment for stupidity of this level
Just another story of a woman trying to destroy a successful man
I'm just glad that Sir Terry isn't around to see this shit.
>>147150390Only if proof can be brought forth. If she has obduction, pictures, videos or audio. You can off line the man. People that do stuff like that are unchangable, same way as killers (who do it for fun) and all other "funny" people (all the -philes etc). But if there is no proof, and it is word of on person vs another persons, then I am sorry, the judical system shouldn't go with "woman said it, there for it is true". In family court it ended with every men in existance suddenly turning in to an abuser, alcoholic , who likes to get physical and psychological with the Mrs. A woman can not, and should not, be able to decide a day, month or a few years later, that "you know what I think I was raped". Not unless men get the option to not pay alimony, if they say they don't want the kid.
>>147150505Well that goes without saying, even if it's easy to just cancel someoneThe entire environment makes me weary about having any sort of investment or interest in specific authors or actors or writers because it'll feel like shit if they actually did something bad
>>147150505When innocent people suffer for crimes they did not commit, Lord Moloch laughs. When evil triumphs, Lord Moloch laughs. When beautiful things are destroyed or corrupted, Lord Moloch laughs. His mad, mindless, howling laughter is the greatest sound in existence.
>>147150524>The entire environment makes me weary about having any sort of investment or interest in specific authors or actors or writers because it'll feel like shit if they actually did something badYeah I know the feeling. I used to feel the same a decade ago, but then just stopped caring once I saw all the people calling out shitty creators back then turning out to be shitty people themselves
>>147150505>obduction, pictures, videos or audiowhat if YOU get raped and you didn't have your camera on you and filming at the time? what are you going to do?
Always happy to see another Scientologist go down. God bless Todd.Also Palmer's music is fucking horrible.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRix5o2-fiU
>>147150505>Get raped at gunpoint >You weren't filming at the time so they all get off scot freeDamn I didn't realize we had NYC attorneys on here
>>147147048I never followed the story, so I had no opinion on veracity of allegations. But what kind of an innocent man puts out such a contrived statement?
>>147147048Sorry Neil but I always believe women
>>147150586Oh you mean the way my wife and her lawyer called me drunk, who potentialy molested his son? You mean that kind of a rape or do you mean some other kind of rape.
>>147150676One who tried, for the last few years to be very modern and up with the times, and for some reason still tries to be that. What he doesn't know is that once you get accused no one cares, how good of a person you were.
>>147147527>>147150390who the fuck says it's an apology? he straight up said there wasn't any rape.
>>147147048This is why non-monogamous relationships and being a deviant in public is a bad idea. Even fake-ass accusations like this one are easy to believe when you've cultivated an image of being a weirdo sex-pest for years. Let this be a lesson to you anons, don't swing, don't do bdsm shit with strangers, have a healthy normal family life and this shit is significantly less likely to happen to you, and if it does, not a lot of people will believe it.
>>147147048i too make women sign NDAs for?? reasons??
>>147150708Well, maybe you shouldn't have rapes your son, wino.
>>147147048Guiltyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80o1VQbtwPI
>>147150332Unfathomably based
Proclaim your innocence and demand to meet your accusers on the field of honor. Your reputation is only as good as your willingness to defend it, with blood if necessary.
>>147147048I believe : White Men> all women> Blacks> jews
So he admits he's guilty but it wasn't rape.
>>147147696I am a different person to that guy but while I agree with you what about the other women? There's like 8 of them accoring to the Beeb so what other credible explanation is there?
>>147149163Those are not mutually exclusive statements; one is a call to empathy; yes it's a bit absolutist but you have to read between the lines a bitStill not a good look for him
>>147148953This tbqhwyfam. Gaiman is a total BDSM degen weirdo who really shouldn't be around young women and only virtue signals about Feminism to counterbalance that behaviour (because he is aware it's a bad look) but I don't think he is a rapist, or at the very least there is not enough substantial proof right now to corroborate such claim.
>>147150332Fucking hell Rob lmaoThe more time passes, the more I genuinely like the Image guys.
>>147150390>male feminist who's actually a massive creep and worse>allegedly>mfw picrel hit that type on the head in the 80s with his portrayals
>>147152091friendly reminder that comedy people who joke about this shit and 'make light' of it get all the flack for no reason but are in fact the least problematic
>>147150452Same, anon.Honestly, I'm glad Pratchett didn't live to see 2016 and beyond in general. Don't think he'd have cared for any and all [current year] shenanigans.
>>147147048That James Randi?
>>147150332I love this man
>>147150332B A S E DASED
I strongly believe that Gaiman was killed and replaced by a lizard person or some similar homunculus at some point in the early 2000s. It's wild how someone who was genuinely interested in the art of storycrafting, pushing boundaries, and cherishing the classics turned into a corporate cocksucking DEI obsessed faggot.
>>147150505Didn't the dumbass admit it happened but it was le consensual
>>147152330>he might've raped someone but the worst thing is he tried to be inclusive and cocked it up a bit!
>>147150452Apparently it's come out that he said he regrets working with Gaiman I hope Pratchett's not got skeletons in his closet besides the obvious Oblivion gooner mods he probably installed. After David Eddings was revealed to be a felony child abuser I don't think I could take another favorite childhood author turning out to be a real piece of shit.
Why'd it take this long to actually come out? Stories about Gaiman (Palmer too) being a creep have been going around for years and years.
>>147150332TODDFATHER AND ROB HAVE WON THE COMICS INDUSTRY.NEIL GAIMAN AND ALL THE FAGGOT DC AND MARVEL EDITORS WHO HIRED HIM BTFO ETERNALLY
>>147150676A guilty narcissist
>>147152080Delirium the little girl in bondage gear is much creepier in hindsight
>>147149126TO THE SHARKTICONS
>>147152774Like Harvey it was an open secret but everyone was afraid to go after the famous cash cow with an untouchable reputation
>>147152764You act like they're mutually exclusive, most woketards end up being pedos or rapists
>>147152764"Someone" implies another intelligent human being. He might have raped a woman.I don't think the worst thing he did was trying to be inclusive. I think the worst thing he did was shit all over his old legacy and embarrass himself in an attempt to stay relevant.
>>147152766Sorry, but I don't trust Rankin at all, and I think putting words in the mouth of dead people is in very poor taste.
>>147152962>"Someone" implies another intelligent human being. He might have raped a woman.and a tip of the hat to you too mr fedora
>>147152028NTA There’s not a lot of details on all 8. The other one mentioned on the podcast was a 40 year old woman who told Neil not to finger her while she had a UTI. Neil slipped in a finger anyway. She was 18-19 then and fucked him for a few years after, and even after they stopped meeting remained friends based on letters.Based on the BPD chick and the middle aged woman it really does seem like it’s women with retroactive retracting consent syndrome.
>>147152028>>147153049I get the impression that a lot of these women were absolutely consenting in the moment to something which they didn't really want to do - But that's still on them. There has to be a line drawn between "I said yes even though I didn't want to." and "He made me say yes even though I didn't want to."At the time that these events happened, they were in consenting BDSM relationships with him.
>>147152774The dam breaks when it becomes more profitable for someone to expose the dirt than it is to keep quiet. Sometimes it literally is someone being brave and shouting from the rooftops, but other times it's people sitting on a story, rumors, etc waiting for regimes to change or the political mood to shift. Gaiman could've been targeted because he's been in the spotlight more with the new Sandman series, or maybe there's been a shift in management with his publishers, or maybe someone just got fed up with him. The story initially broke as part of the launching of a new podcast service iirc, so that could have been part of the motivation.
>>147153214I can't say I think that's the case for all of them, but I suspect that's the case for some of them. To be honest, I'm a dude and I was in a not dissimilar situation when I was younger. An older woman I admired and found attractive and I entered into a sexual relationship. While I fully consented to everything, it was a bad situation and there were things she did that were cruel and manipulative, and things I did just to please her that I didn't actually want to do. In the end, she's not a rapist though (at least not of me), she was just kind of an asshole. The one thing I'm pretty confident of asserting based on all the info we have is that Neil Gaiman is a creepy asshole who's careless with the women in his life.
>>147153485or maybe some retarded mentally unstable twitter users decided to tweet about some sex they had 20 years ago that they regret, and then more mentally unstable retarded twitter users did what they do and started doing the same thing because they saw le ebin retweets habbening.
>>147149752>Half JewOne drop my dude
>>147148953>but he's still a weird sex pervert.literally who cares you retarded faggot
>>147150586probably report it to the police immediately and not in a couple of decades, but I dunno I'm not dead set on that
>>147152023>he's guilty but it wasn't rape.guilty of what, having weird sex?
>>147152766someone else who knew Terry said that he once joked about making a support group for people who survived collaborating with Neil. but it's more likely he was just a wanker who thought his ideas are better and pushes them at the detriment of the story or something, and has nothing to do with him being rapey. far as i can tell all these allegations are too recent for terry to have sicced on that
>>147147048>Like most of us, I’m learning, and I'm trying to do the work needed, and I know that that's not an overnight processHas there ever been a worse way to aapologize than this? He basically admits its all true, but pretends like this was just a lil oopsie that happened, and not something that was the norm in his life for decades, while he openly preached feminist nonsense and championed himself as some wholesome ally.
>>147153754I hope it’s that, and given that he’s dead I’m not likely to believe the screencap. I’m tired of these Hollywood types who come out saying “it was an open secret” after the fact, then act as if they have any moral high ground.
I'm absolutely convinced that all you "yeah maybe it wasn't rape, but he's definitely a weird sex pervert!" faggots are just bitter and mad that this gangly british feminist retard has smashed more pussy in any given year than you will in the entirety of your life.
>>147150833Let's not dress this up any more than it needs to be: It's exceptionally easy not to abuse other people on a regular basis for your entire professional career. It's so unimaginably easy to not face fuck someone under threat until the puke, and then force them to eat their own puke. People are trying to frame this as him being into rough sex with consenting partners or that he was just one of those wacky guys who loves weird kinky shit, but none of the people who came forth are anything like that, which means it's entirely on Gaiman, and that this sort of aggressive, abusive streak is not some misunderstanding or some slip up. It's who he is as a person.
>>147153785>I’m tired of these Hollywood types who come out saying “it was an open secret” after the fact, then act as if they have any moral high ground.This, pretty much. Like trying to imply that a writer people like and respect must have secretly known about some weird sexual abuse shit going on and just conveniently decided to never tell anyone is just retarded, if anything that just makes them shitheads for not saying anything if that was the case.
>>147150332son of a bitch
>>147153843>It's so unimaginably easy to not face fuck someone under threat until the puke, and then force them to eat their own puke.okay yeah, but I also don't give a fuck if other people do that in their own private lives if they weren't literally raping someone, and I don't for a second buy any of this "it was definitely rape but I participated willingly for years and never said anything until now" bullshit. If you don't want to do that shit, simply do not do that shit and don't associate with the guy. It is so incredibly easy to not repeatedly have consensual sex with a man for years if you do not want to while not being forced.
maybe reading too much onto it, but i wonder if dave sim knew something
>>147153874You ever known someone in an abusive relationship? Let alone one with a celebrity?
>>147153885Yeah, and if they're willingly repeatedly going back to the person without being forced then I don't give a shit, because they're fucking adults who are responsible for their own behavior.
>>147153885celebrity status aside, some of the allegations are from people who were basically working for neil, like the babysitter. that's already a very different dynamic from say neil picking up death cosplayers and taking them to his apartment
>>147153885>Let alone one with a celebrity?If the fact that they're a celebrity makes any difference at all then I unironically think the person deserves to be raped because they're fucking retarded.
>>147153902Was the babysitter an adult human being with a normally functioning brain?
>>147148953If I had a cute Slavic woman who was willing to be my slave I'd do it too. Not in front of my kids, though, that's gross.
>>147153899>>147153910>it can be abusive, coercive, and not totally consensual (rape), but because they didn't run away immediately, I don't careSo then why defend Gaiman?>>147153902You get it. Guy with power, authority, and money to wave in the faces of people desperate and deluded enough to stay with him. There's probably plenty of women who got a taste of Gaiman's fucked up behavior and left. The fact that others had the gall to believe that maybe he wasn't truly as bad as he seemed when he tried to make nice, like abusers do, is just and unfortunate thing that happens in these kinds of dynamics.
>>147153919You’re telling me you wouldn’t let your boss put his poop infested dick in your mouth?
>>147153785i cant imagine any sort of normal circumstance in which it would be the latter. there's a lot of opportunity working on a project as co-creators to learn that your collaborator is a controlling dickhead, probably a lot fewer to learn that he loves fucking underage women.
>>147153942>and not totally consensual (rape)This is the part I literally do not believe, retard.>>147153944Ya know, it'd be a hard call but I feel like maybe nah
>>147153968Sex under threat of violence or unemployment is coercion and still considered rape in any court of law, faggot.
>>147153965>that he loves fucking underage women.I don't keep up with any of this gossip bullshit, but is this even one of the accusations? I've only seen accounts that he had a preference for young (but still adult) women, ya know, like any normal straight man does whether he will admit it or not.
>>147153661society
>>147153986>if you don't suck my cock and let me fuck your asshole for the next 3 hours with no lube, I'll fire you as my babysitteroh no, she literally had no choice I guess. Except I don't think I've seen any claim that he ever threatened to fire her, just that he made it clear he wanted to fuck her and she obliged.
>>147152080>>147150833If you've met a hardcore BDSM type, the issue is a lot of them desensitize themselves and start chasing new highs. And when you're dealing with a practice which is supposed to basically be a healthy look with a repressed darkness within the human psyche craving power dynamics and the infliction of human suffering?Don't be afraid to detox every once in a while guys, take a break from it if you have to. The biggest degens you will meet started out as normal fucking people.
>>147153988The underage part is nerd gossip about Neil sleeping with underage Death cosplayers since the 90s. No one has provided any evidence nor has any woman come out to support it. Neil is many things, but he was careful enough to avoid underage groupies.
>>147154006It's about the implication. https://youtu.be/zgUvwcU6P7I
>>147154024>I had sex with him, I totally didn't want to and he didn't do anything to force me in any way or threaten me or anything, but he was definitely gonna do something bad if I didn't do it, I could just tell, it was like a vibes thingOh so she was retarded, got it. Yeah taking advantage of the mentally handicapped is pretty bad I guess.
>>147154036Most women are retarded, so you're starting to get it.
>>147153882If Dave Sim thinks your behavior towards women is bad?You have really....REALLY fucked up.
Ya know the funniest thing is that the retarded white women insisting that being into weird BDSM shit makes him a literal rapist despite everything being clearly consensual at the time definitely masturbated to 50 shades of grey and twilight slop as teenagers.
>he raped me!Like he held you down and wouldn't let you leave?>noOr like, he threatened to hurt you if you didn't have sex with him?>no, nothing like thatSo he drugged you I guess?>no, no. None of thatOkay, help me out, what happened?>well, when I met him he said he wanted to fuck meokay, well that's kind of weird I guess, and then what, he said like he'd I dunno fire you if you didn't fuck him?>no, then we had sexokay, well then I guess you stopped talking to him but he wouldn't leave you alone?>no, I went back to his house every day for like 5 years and had sex with him every timebecause?...>well I had to anon, he was famous
>>147154050Read his apology again. He admits to abusing and raping those women.
>>147153885My wife has a friend who’s with a guy that got her hooked on drugs and beats the shit out of her. Her 9 year old daughter secretly recorded him beating the shit out of her and took it to the cops. She dropped the charges against him and went back to him a week later. I’m sympathetic to a point to people in abusive relationships but at the end of the day if you’re an adult and refuse to leave an abusive situation at some point personal responsibility has to be a thing.
>>147154091>I don't accept there was any abuse. To repeat, I have never engaged in non-consensual sexual activity with anyone.oh yeah, how could I have missed that
>>147147048stick of butter up pooper
>>147154112That's called a Kneel Gay Man
>>147153882Imagine getting roasted by a schizophrenic pedo
>>147154126I don't need to imagine it, I've posted on /co/
>>147154106>I hope that with the help of good people, I'll continue to grow. I understand that not everyone will believe me or even care what I say but I’ll be doing the work anywayHe knows he did it. He apologizes for doing it. He needs to "learn and grow" but he won't legally admit to rape and abuse because then he'd get dragged to court.
Since he's Jewish he should be locked up for life
>>147154130meds, buddy
>>147154130
>>147150332Damn not even a Todd/liefeld fan but these guys honesty won
>>147147048>Be a lefty shitter>End up getting me 2'd in the helpful idiot purgeevery time
he made one of them lick her own shit off his dickholy shithow could someone do that
>>147154395>lick feces off my penis>okThe lady doth not protest too much, methinks.
>>147154373What are other examples
>>147150332
>>147150332LMAO
>>147154009>If you've met a hardcore BDSM type, the issue is a lot of them desensitize themselves and start chasing new highsKind of? If you ACTUALLY know anyone in the BDSM community, you'll know that consent is a big fucking deal to them and that in the dynamic of the dom and sub, the sub is actually the one who holds the power. Nothing happens unless the sub is okay with it which is why there are things like safe words in play. That way, the sub can struggle and squirm and scream "no" as part of the fantasy and experience the sort of (sometimes extreme) sensations they're looking for, but has the opportunity to tap out at any moment. To the outsider, the dom is exerting power over the sub but in reality, the sub holds the power over the dom. There are always going to be a handful of bastards that use that kind of sexual activity as an excuse to be abusive, but it's not the sort of inevitable slide into depravity that you imply. If you talk to anyone who is actually active in BDSM, both subs and doms will tell you the same thing. Consent is sexy.
>>147154099physical abuse has a fucked up psychological affect on people. I think it's easy to see this from the outside and say "what the fuck are you thinking you fucking idiot?!", but the fact of the matter is that if this woman had a healthy mindset, she would have left him the first time he was violent with her. People get into these fucked up feedback loops where they feel in a messed up way that they deserve it. It's fucked up, but then again, why do people get stuck in cults? I feel bad for the 9 year old daughter. I can't imagine she had it easy after attempting to turn him in.
>>147154130>He needs to "learn and grow" but he won't legally admit to rape and abusenaw, as others have pointed out, he's walking a fine line. He's made so many statements about believing women and taking accountability, and working to be better as men that now that he's in a tight spot, he can't suddenly be like "fuck it, I did nothing wrong. She's a fucking liar and the justice system will prove me right!" He has to delicately balance between "I still believe all women and they deserve to be listened to and I will do my part as a man to be better" while still denying that he did anything wrong.
>>147150332Based Liefeld can't stop winning
>>147150452Terry was a rare based feminist who could write women's issues without having his setting bend over backwards to fellate said female characters for merely existing. Even if it does feel like all his protagonists, male and female, kind of gain XP over time across books and gradually reveal themselves to be more competent and powerful than previously. Seriously compare Granny Weatherwax being thrown for a loop by the Macbeth expy in Witches Abroad to running out all the elves with bees in Lords and Ladies. Or Sam Vimes being intimidated by two palace guards in his debut then being able to outrun a pack of werewolves and basically function as both a general of street fighting and a one-man army even before the Summoning Dark hitches a ride on him.
Didn't he "threaten" to kill himself at some point in the texts he sent the nanny? If this escalates to him being actually found guilty, I think he just might.
>>147147048Hiding behind a beloved dead man, how low can he go
>>147150332Almost makes up for tanking Valiant
>>147150332He still has no idea how to draw people sitting down like actual humans, but BASED
You should always be prepared for the possibility that your favourite celebrity might be a straight up horrible person.
Just don’t be a kink idiot and this shot won’t happen.You don’t need to jack off to any wacky crap that comes your way just because it’s “taboo” and maybe if you don’t you’ll be capable of cumming without having to re-enact Hellraiser every time.
>>147155313>without having to re-enact Hellraiser every time.but that's the best part
>>147155202what I do is I'm smart and make my favorite celebrities be specifically horrible people like john k or roman polanski. can't disappoint me then
>>147155202Just divorce the art from the artist and assume 99% of people in the entertainment industry are awful.
>>147147696>The policeThe Bongistani police? Those fucks decided that young girls consented to being gang-banged and trafficked by Pakistani grooming gangs. They can't be trusted.
>>147155572You WILL feed your children to Lord Moloch. You WILL watch as your future is destroyed.
>>147150332Cool reminder that, over the years, all the people who called him "LIEfield" were actually getting to him and they should continue to do it.
>>147153661I'll still read his books, man. Even if he was an actual rapist.
>>147153840Anon, you can stop sucking Gayman's cock now.
>>147150833Don't worry anon, people here don't really engage in sex anyway.
>>147154006Maybe don't be so desperate to get your dick wet that you end up forcing the issue like this.
>>147155918Maybe anon’s trying to join the women MeTooing Gayman.
>>147154130If she agreed to it, it's not rape.You can't change your mind later in life, it's not fair to those who never had a choice to begin with.
>>147147048Get fucked Neil
>>147150833>>147153843>>147154009retards who have never been on fetlife don't understand consent and communication is required for everything
Theres a funny paradox in this: You are supposed to #BelieveAllWomen, except when they consent to having sex with you, in which case they might actually be lying.
>>147153661Some of this (most?), I think, is an unfortunate side effect of all our traditional sexual mores having been discarded in favor of vapid, anything-goes sex positivity with a monomaniacal focus on consent. We barely even have the vocabulary anymore to describe bad or cruel or execrable behavior that is wrong without being rape. Instead, we're left with two categories of sex, consensual and criminal, the unspoken understanding being that you're only allowed to complain about the latter, because heaven forfend you yuck the yum of the guy who gets off on making women crawl around on all fours and drink urine. It should surprise no one that women in this milieu are performing intellectual acrobatics to redefine their terrible-but-consensual sexual experiences as actually rapes; it's the only way anyone will acknowledge that something bad happened to you.
But when it comes down to the basic facts, what did he actually do wrong? Except writing mediocre novels and comic books for Harry Potter fans who thought mistakenly they grew out of Harry Potter?
>>147150833Most normies brag about fucking 100x women while married.
>>147150825>>147150825Yeah. Trust the white guy that there wasn't rape. . .
>>147156420Raped some woman. That's it.
>>147147048>Like most of us, I’m learningYou're learning? You're touching a woman who doesn't want to be touched! IF SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE TOUCHED, IT'S FUCKING RAPE!
>>147155962The law says you're retarded AND wrong
>>147156541Didn't happen, they consented. Even wrote lovey-dovey text messages how great it was afterwards.
>>147154086Hi Neil.
>>147154045I mean Dave is just a schizo, antifeminst pedo his sex life is eerr, normal. Allegations against Gaiman says he used to force anal sex without lube, face fuck the until she vomit then make her eat the puke or eat all the shit and cum that would come from anal sex. Yeah both should die already.
>>147153840He's definitely a weird sex pervert but nothing wrong with that. It's being a retard and fucking an employee in 2022, the era of MeToo, that's hilarious. Imagine fucking up that bad. And with an obviously unwell BPD 'out of work actress' fame leech lmao. Dude should just blame it on dementia or something with how fucking retarded he was.
It's interesting, culturally we are experiencing the death of the the last remnants of the 60's and 70's values of free love and social liberalism, that's what this really is. I'm not saying that's a good or a bad thing. Just the era of the enigmatic auteur who's a secret pervert is coming to a close. There's a few stragglers left but as that entire generation dies off the world is moving into a sexually hyper-conservative mode of being.
#metoo was a god damned mistake
>>147153754>he was just a wanker who thought his ideas are betterAnd he'd be correct.
>>147156741yeah but the genie is out of the bottle and nothing can be done about it now
>>147150332Even if he can't draw, Rob is a cool dude.
>>147156768Except it's already dying down. Netflix for example will not _not_ release an already filmed season of Sandman. They just wait for this to blow over, maybe feature him less prominently in the credits and be done with it. The reactions were already very muted. Maybe not by tumblrinas, but by actually important people.
>absolutely zero words of condemnation from comic book or hollywood officialsNew Gaiman IP projects confirmed end of 2025, screncap this
>>147154009>If you've met a hardcore BDSM type, the issue is a lot of them desensitize themselves and start chasing new highs. And when you're dealing with a practice which is supposed to basically be a healthy look with a repressed darkness within the human psyche craving power dynamics and the infliction of human suffering?Clearly you've never met a BDSM person. Their sex is ironically safer than usual because they go through a whole planning phase before even starting their bedroom LARP. With codewords for Hotter/harder, Colder/I don't like this, Pause/Somebody is ringing door bell, Safe word/ Factory red STOP button and ballgag sound versions for each of them. BDSM communities don't generally have consent issues because consent is so clearly defined and protected by multiple fail-safe mechanisms. The common headache in BDSM communities is relationship drama involved with group sessions and people who have known each other for years but are now fucking somebody else. That and the fact you pretty much need to have a gf or wife first before you join the community, single men are abundant and won't get laid, not enough women to go around.None of the weird sex pest thing Gaiman has done is anywhere close to BDSM.
>>147156945>Uhh sorry sweaty it's only BDSM if it's happening in an officially registered BDSM club after filing the necessary paperworkPeople who make "the scene" their lifestyle are boring as fuck.
>>147156988"BDSM types" who don't plan ahead are not BDSM types, they're just dumbass amateurs who end up hurting themselves by accident.
>>147156697God only knows who will win. The religious resurgence, corporations cementing themselves as social gatekeepers, or an unholy union of both?
>>147156697Being rich and brooding will always get you pussy, no worries champ.
>>147148558But enough about how he likes his girls
>>147156560May we see this made up message the rapist photoshopped?
>>147156420He likes Gunnerkrigg Court, that's pretty evil.
>>147156911Give it time. They can still suck him dry some more
https://www.tumblr.com/mitsuki-dreamfree/772693789750050816?source=share
>>147156381The issue is that they feel the need to publicly annouce that they had sex they regret at all. The idea that anyone can go to the authorities or just hop on twitter of retard sky or wherever they're at now and say "hey, I wasn't raped, but like 12 years ago I had sex with this guy and he was really weird about it and I didn't say anything at the time but now I'm kind of mad about it" and be taken seriously is fucking ridiculous.I do not care that Neil Gaiman is a weird sex pervert. It's none of my god damned business, and what consenting women do with him is their own responsibility to deal with. This is not sex positivity, it is total sex apathy. I don't give a fuck, and neither should you.
>>147157014>you're doing my weird sex hobby wrong!fuck off faggot
>>147147048the guy is done for, he should pack his things and move to the Philippines or Thailand where he won't be judged
>>147157566He involved his 8 year old kid in his fetish play.
>>147156381>I'm an incel but I know EVERYTHING about sex
>>147157559Just like Dan Scneider's iCarly 'send a photo of your foot' contest on Nickelodeon
>>147156911Rich Johnston's silence is violence
>>147155136For me, it's Small Gods and Soul Music
>>147157704If that can be verified, that's bad. What's the kid say?
>>147157746Om coming back in the 4th Science of Discworld book was rather bittersweet, since it's nice to see the guy hasn't forgotten what he's learned but also by then it's very clear someone much less talented is having to help Terry with his Alzheimer's.
Neil Gaiman's legacy isn’t the books or even the allegations. It’s how he changed American comics, teaching publishers to sell the writer as brand. No matter how good it was, the art became secondary, perfunctory. The story was all that mattered, and the storyteller mattered the most. He built an industry in his image: all marketing, no substance, rot at the core.Now the brand’s cracking but the machine keeps running. Netflix has another season of The Sandman coming. Amazon has more Gaiman shows in the pipeline. The content must flow. The dreams must be sold.The irony writes itself. Gaiman and Potter queen J.K. Rowling built empires selling mealy mouthed, thumb-sucking rebel fantasies to the people most likely to reject them. While Joe Rogan’s listeners shrug off controversy the way a duck sloughs water off its back, these two courted an audience that grew up collecting scalps on Tumblr. Rowling dips a toe in the TERF wars and watches her readers burn their books (don’t worry—they’ll buy more copies, they always do). But Gaiman’s sins run deeper than bad tweets—he lived the pathetic, penny-ante darkness he sold them in sanitized form. The fans who once wept at his feet now want his head. Like his father before him, he forgot the first rules of selling: never believe your own pitch and never get high on your own supply of content.That’s what the boy learned watching his father sell Scientology on TV. The trick isn’t the product. The trick is making them want to buy. I never bought it, but plenty did. The $64,000 question is: Will they keep on paying? We humanzees are nothing if not born suckers, as Gaiman’s story reminds us.
>>147156697They're not dying, they're mutating. Socialism is now a rallying cry for college students who think they know how to fix every problem in the country. Free love is the rallying cry of every thot on Onlyfans trying to stretch their 15 minutes of fame into a lucrative career.
>>147157793>It’s how he changed American comics, teaching publishers to sell the writer as brandAnd now they're trying to forget that lesson, kek.>Will they keep on payingNo shit, no way kekflix lets that series fail.
>>147150833you got it backwards, anon! if you want to rape someone, do it in the most OUTRAGEOUS way possible. then no one will believe it happened.
>>147153485the lies grow more bolder after the lynch mob forms.
>>147157832Based. Did you watch Cruising?
>>147157832Not unless someone catches you on video with that feathered headdress and horse mask, as well as the husky sledge you and your victim are strapped into.
>>147154024do you have a penis? because i may have an implication you may not like.
>>147157793Marvel and DC started pushing writers ahead of artists after Todd, Rob and the Image guys left and screwed them over. Marvel and DC were pissed that they invested resources building these artists in to stars only for them to leave.After that, the big 2 started promoting writers as stars, because writers were entirely reliant on the artist and the editors to organize the inking and lettering so it was harder for comic writers to go out on their own. Neil Gaiman was one of the first writers they started promoting a.fter the Image guys left them high and dry
>>147157846>catches you on video"what were your prompts for that ai vid, anon?" we live in the post-truth era! goddamn, you could rape anyone in broad daylight on a busy sidewalk and claim it's performance art!
>>147157892And that's how we got Bendis, and now Slott, billed as the STAR WRITERS of Superman. Fucking kek that's a worse rape of Superman than whatever Gaiman did to those women
>>147157988You can actually rape a 5 year old and get a lenient sentence because you wanted to be accepted as a sub woman. Neil Gaiman is chicken shit compared to the daily clown world we live in.https://reduxx.info/exclusive-transgender-pedophile-given-lenient-sentence-for-sexually-abusing-his-5-year-old-daughter-after-court-considers-transphobia-in-sentence/
>>147158023>Haha yeah you're gonna find out what happens to 18 year old pedos who date 16 year olds when you get to Riker's you sick fuck!>We need to protect transwomenAlso>According to court records, Harper had been in an online BDSM relationship with the American pedophile, who encouraged him to sexually abuse his daughter in exchange for words of validation.Literally raped a kid for updoots.
>>147158000Yep. Writers often are fanboys too, like slott, content to write corporate IP characters their whole lives, whereas most artists are creative who want to draw their own ideas
>>147153036You are defending "always believe all women uwu" failmale.
>>147158045>Literally raped a kid for updoots.pretty sure in ten years this will be normal thing do stream on live youtube. screenshot this.
>>147158113Live streaming that has been normal in those circles since the 90s.
>>147155028When I hear the terms "dom", "sub", and "safe word", I feel as if I might never have another erection for the rest of my life. There is nothing like this sort of cringe-inducing cant to kill all interest in the one thing in which you might have thought nothing could kill your interest. And let's face it. When there are three "doms" in your average cubicle farm, maybe the whole enterprise is not quite as "edgy" as its participants might like to imagine.Unsurprising that BDSM culture collects all these scumbag mangina creeps like Gaiman faster than Ash Ketchum collects Pokemon.
>>147158155but not on normie youtube... i hope.
>>147157892The Image thing just affected Marvel, those guys never worked for DC. DC became egalitarian about promoting both writers and artists after Marvel made it standard to provide credits back in the 60s, and Gaiman was thoroughly a DC guy back then.
>/co/ pretends to be outraged about fetishes they always loved
Rape
>>147158211>When I hear the terms "dom", "sub", and "safe word", I feel as if I might never have another erection for the rest of my lifeNot all kinks are supposed to appeal to you. The good news is you're not obliged to participate. BDSM isn't my thing either. It's too far removed from what interests me in sex and seems to require an awful lot of accoutrements. >maybe the whole enterprise is not quite as "edgy" as its participants might like to imagineI think the edginess is something that is projected onto the community more than it is the community thinking that their kink is particularly edgy or unusual. Being into BDSM (at various levels) is extremely common to the point where terms like "Kinky Sex" or "Fetish" popularly evoke images of handcuffs, ropes, and leather when in reality those terms can refer to practices that have nothing to do with BDSM. A lot of this has to do with the punk scene adopting bondage gear as a fashion accessory in the 70's (which it did because at the time it was shocking and taboo). Punk remains a classic symbol of rebellion despite being like 50+ years old at this point, so while the public often associates BDSM gear with rebellion and edge, that wasn't necessarily the intended goal.
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>>147147527Look at this guy. You just KNOW he did some unsavory sexual shit in the past.>>147147048The annoying thing about the quote in OP is that he's saying all this round about shit about how he's "learning", he's "growing" (I mean he's like 64 so how much more growing have you got).He uses all this language about how he did something terrible and is on the verge of admitting it but then at the last moment says "I didn't do anything wrong". You can't have your cake and eat it too Neil. You can't give a half-assed apology and then claim you did nothing wrong. Either go full in on admitting you did something wrong or go full "I didn't do jackshit these bitches be lying". This half-assed apology just tells us he did something wrong but is too much of a pussy to fully own up to it.
>>147158836What would the dirt on him be? Practicing necromancy without a license?
Louis CK is one of the worst #MeToo stories because he explicitly asked for consent every time he jerked off in front of women; they all accepted but they got confused because they thought he was just joking.If that happened to me I'd just be like "wtf" and walk out of the room. I'd rather some weird autist like him start jerking off than have some Hollywood exec fondle my ass without my consent.Physical touching is way worse than seeing something. You know plenty of people in Hollywood have done way worse but Louis is just the type of guy that would be called out on that shit.
>>147158935Not out of the question he made a whole comic series where he fetishes the personification of death itself while also making the main character one of the most obvious self-inserts in all of comics.
>>147147048why is it almost always the male feminist atheist that always does this shit?
>>147159057I hate how all those lefty faggy dudes turned on him the second the allegations came out, and still hate him for it. Not saying what he did was good, it was retarded, but not enough to outcast him
>>147158924I can’t take him seriously with that hairstyle. He looks like a teenager who never learned to style his hair.
>>147159080>making the main character one of the most obvious self-inserts in all of comics.qrd
>>147159083They try to over-correct. Similar to a guy who hates gays to an unnatural degree (then ends up in a gay sex scandal) or is constantly talking about how he hates pedos (and then ends up with child porn).This is why you never want to leave your dog with the weirdo who is constantly obsessing over how terrible bestiality is. I mean yeah it's bad but the guy who is obsessively talking about these weird topics every day and how he'd never do such a thing is probably hiding something.
>>147159148Or the vocal white racial purists (who then marries and has children with a non-white woman). Or the guys on /pol/ who talk about exterminating minorities (while being 80% Indio and 20% black).
>>147159057Probably one of the worst metoo moments, second to Aziz Ansari. At least Louis is making a mild comeback
>>147158836If Glyconic magic doesn't alert you that your close friend is a rapist, of what use was the Glyconic magic?
>>147159195>aziz what happen to him again? He brought a girl to his place and she said it was rape
>>147158935worst I've heard about him is that he sent Morrison a threatening letter once when Moore was writing Marvelman and Morrison tried to peddle his own Marvelman scripts to the editor. but Morrison is the only source on this story, and he was a bit of a cunt back then who, per his own admission, openly talked shit about other creators for publicitythen there's probably a good story someone has yet to tell as to why Halo Jones was never finished, or why Moore backed out and prevented a reprint of 1963. but i doubt there was rape in any of those stories
>>147158924Half his apology reads like "yes I did it, but in my mind it she WANTED it so it was consensual", which is kinda scummy as far as these things go. But the part about him denying things seems more like he's denying being called a rapist, since he didn't force anyone at knifepoint or whatever. But how old is he, like 65? And he's still learning and growing?
>>147159297Some really nebulous "I had sex with him and decided later it was bad" accusation shit that was so blatantly retarded that even the majority of the metoo fanatics said so.Ironically enough this happened not long after he did a metoo plotline in his Master of None show lmao.
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>>147159057Props to Sarah Silverman for saying "Yeah he did that in front of me, I was totally cool with it."
>>147150390What do you expect him to say? All he has done is go:>I had a relationship with these people.>I wasn't the best partner.>But I didn't do anything illegal.>They continued to message me just fine.Anecdotally I have had this happen to friends IRL where their ex will chat and talk to them fine but then make up some huge accusation about their relationship and on the balance of probability they probably just had normal relationship problems but the current therapised social media language turns normal problems into abuse and trauma.
>>147152774>Why'd it take this long to actually come out? Stories about Gaiman (Palmer too) being a creep have been going around for years and years.Because money was spent to prevent it with PR, court injunctions and NDAs/payoffs. The organisation that broke the story is Tortoise Media and one of the podcast presents is literally the sister of former British PM Boris Johnson. Tortoise Media have large investment pockets backing them and needed to cement their new media position. They have also been trying to buy a British newspaper. Many of these women had signed NDAs so they clearly had to get around some of that (although illegal stuff isn't covered by NDAs). Not claiming it is a conspiracy but it is a new media organisation with money aiming big. Other established organisations would kill such a story due to monetary cost or inability to go forward for other editorial reasons.
>>147157793>watches her readers burn their booksThe hatred towards JK has been massively inflated because of online audiences. The vast majority of people don't know or don't care.>>147157892>Marvel and DC started pushing writers ahead of artists after Todd, Rob and the Image guys left and screwed them over. Marvel and DC were pissed that they invested resources building these artists in to stars only for them to leave.>>147158000>And that's how we got Bendishttps://youtu.be/UOL1qc-FANE?t=1883:08 Bendis interview talking about superstar artists being replaced by writers.
Stuff like this is a good reminder on why I never bother getting too entangled with people
>>147161994That's an odd way to say you don't have any friends
>>147162394Yeah
>>147161960>The hatred towards JK has been massively inflated because of online audiences. The vast majority of people don't know or don't care.This is the truth that social media troons refuse to accept. While a tiny minority of tiktok and twitter weirdos hate her, she is still a beloved author globally, and the majority of normies actually support her anti-troon world view.
>>147157559The funniest fucking thing about this is that the alleged "student" running the Tumblr types exactly like Gaiman
>>147158257>always lovedEating vomit?
>>147148592This genuinely disgusting
>>147147048Fuckin based
>>147159706The worst things about Ansari are that >Nigga obviously only got the girl's attention because he's famous>Girl only got pissed because he never called her back after that one night>Bitch spilled all his weird fetishes that she knew from their one night stand
>>147164094(it's Neil)
>>147159371>why Moore backed out and prevented a reprint of 1963It's such a mess that they split the rights between Moore, Bissette and Veitch so each of them owns some of the characters (or their estates). Also Moore cuts ties with them like he seems to do all his collaborators when they even suggest doing a project.
>>147148592lol lmao how can a guy who wrote sandman be so fucked in the head
>>147161994Based, same
>>147158836So Moore literally taught Gaiman to write for comics. Wonder what he thinks? Moore, whilst being strange, seems to live a comfortable life and not be a Gaiman level weirdo.
>>147150332shit joke
>>147164459Sandman is the kind of comic only someone fucked in the head could have created (one of my favorites, still). It's not very surprising, is it?
>>147164777>Moore, whilst being strange, seems to live a comfortable life and not be a Gaiman level weirdo.Ehhh...he was in a thruple relationship with his first wife and another woman who ditched him and went full lezbo couple. He's rage shunted off most of his friends/collaborators for simply suggesting projects to him like Dave Gibbons. I'm not sure self imposed misanthropy is a good thing. Also...his comics have a lot of weird sex.
>>147164459This >>147164886, you don't write a disembodied face telling a troon that she will never be a real woman while the witch Thessaly rambles about the moon and a dream cuckoo monster is about to end the world without at least being a little unhinged.Also there's a scene where a woman dreaming herself as a little girl pisses near a river. Nominally it's there to show that this is not YOUR DADDY'S PLAIN JANE FAIRYTALE but we all know why it's really there.
>>147164969>I'm not sure self imposed misanthropy is a good thing.I've been told by random /co/fags who claim to have met him at cons that Moore is actually very chill. And while this is "my dad works at Nintendo" tier testimony, as a misanthrope myself there are worse ways to react to getting done as dirty as that by your wife and DC.Moore's definitely a weirdo given his output, but he comes across as a functional weirdo with a healthy degree of self-awareness to not hurt people with his hobby. You don't write an illustrated book about the practice and philosophy of magic over the years without having at least some genuine passion for it.
>>147164969>Also...his comics have a lot of weird sex.Yeah but some creators just get their weirdness out on a page and not real life.>Ehhh...he was in a thruple relationship with his first wife and another woman who ditched him and went full lezbo couple.Yeah but there has never been accusations of wrong doing, he just seems like a big lefty.>>147165012I've met Moore and have a photo of myself with him (but I was also a teenager and look like a cunt). He was genuinely super nice. Moore generally seems contented in life going by the people I have spoken to who know him from his home town.
>>147164274Honestly, I respect his hustle.
Reminder that Pratchett did nothing wrong and Discworld is literary kino
>>147165089>implying prachett wasn't right there with gaiman using butterGaiman gave him Alzheimers to stop him talking
>>147165089Science of Discworld is the most kino multiverse crisis-type story I've ever read, simply because of how comically small scale it is.>Book 1: HEX accidentally has to create a universe to bleed off excess energy from magical nuclear fusion, wizards stare at the history of evolution and get depressed >Book 2: Elves try to hijack humanity's capacity for dreaming, wizards (and an orangutan) bumrush the stage with heavy iron-tipped sticks>Book 3: The Auditors of Reality try to get in on the action, wizards fuck them up with chocolate guns>I don't even remember what happened in book 4, but it involved a militant theist in the Discworld being yelled at by his own god and still refusing to give up
How long before Amanda Palmer and Neil face punishment from the law?Did Rich Johnston or Heidi Mcdonald report on this story yet?
>>147165317>How long before Amanda Palmer and Neil face punishment from the law?As soon as anyone offers any evidence of an actual crime instead of just saying he gave them the ick once
>>147165350Witness testimony is real evidence that oftenleads to rape convictions. NDA's and payments from Neil to his victims also count as evidence. If vulture was lying, Neil would sue for defamation.
>>147165385>Witness testimony is real evidence that oftenleads to rape convictionsKek, tell that to Diddy.
>>147165385>Witness testimony is real evidence that oftenleads to rape convictions.The New Zealand police investigated some claims far before the allegations were made public and decided there was no case to answer for, most likely due to lack of evidence. They only recently reopened a case. None of the women have reported the incidents to the police, and this covers multiple countries including USA and the UK. Why not?>NDA's and payments from Neil to his victims also count as evidenceAnon, you're just wrong here. Do you think NDAs said something like "Don't tell anyone I raped you" (criminal acts are not covered by NDAs anyway). NDAs of this type will just be specific about not mentioning general time together etc. In no one, shape or form will they constitute any kind of evidence at a trial. What kind of solicitor/lawyer would draw up an NDA that could be used in evidence? That would be retarded.>If vulture was lying, Neil would sue for defamation.This isn't proof. And again, a lot of celebrities do not sue over stories about them. Whether the story is true or not, suing for defamation is bad for PR, keeps the story going and requires you to open up all aspects of your life for scrutiny. You're just plain wrong in multiple ways.
>>147165468Don't, it is just bait
Just wanted to say that Neil Gaiman was always a shitty author and that also, Hitler did nothing wrong.
>>147164969>his comics have a lot of weird sexI'll take that over him forcing weird sex into girls working under him
>>147166127Yeah no one likes a rapist.I hope nothing bad gets revealed about him.
>>147165385>Witness testimony is real evidenceI witnessed that you're a retarded faggot
>>147154126>Imagine getting roasted by a schizophrenic pedo>>147156660>Dave is just a schizo, antifeminst pedoQRD?I knew Dave Sim was an antifeminist schizo, but a pedo..?>just finished reading Cerebus 2 weeks ago....
