I don't get it. Gnome granted them their wish and then they killed him for that.
Serious question: Is the age of half the people on this board in the single digits?
>>147150070so..basically literally the story of Christianity?
>>147150070He broke the deal by being evil himself.
>>147150145Does that mean God was evil when he created peace in Garden of Eden?
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>>147150084Western animation is in the crapper and Western comics barely exist except for cape shit. So all we have are the classics to look back on and the rare gem when something new crops up. Power Puff Girls is a funny show for all ages. It isn't baby slop. Now stop being a faggot.
>>147150070They don't really explain what the gnome did wrong. They act like he took away freedom but he didn't. People chose to follow him, they didn't have to. It was a stupid decision mind you, but he didn't force them.Still though, this was THE MOST kino episode ever! Of all time! I loved it bro.
>>147150145But how was he evil? We never see him hurt anybody or force them to do things they didn't want to.
>>147150153He was evil in creating free will, and then punishing his creations for that choice. Remove one or the other, and he's still benevolent. Either people have free will of his choosing and are unpunished, or people do not have free will and are thusly unpunished by a penalty that will never apply to them. Omniscience and omnipresence preclude the possibility of omnibenevolence in the world that we exist in.
>>147150338He was a fuckin commie
>>147150184I asked that in reference to OP not being able to comprehend and extremely basic plot structure you dunderhead, not because I think "Cartoon is for babies".
>>147150070>wish all evil to be eradicated >become communismhe lied
>>147150070>Make an explicitly anti-Communist episode in the style of a Pink Floyd anti-Collectivist music video>Have the Professor literally lead the charge against Communism while waving an American flag>Episode gets banned in AmericaIn all my years I've never understood it
>>147150625Evidence?
>>147150685I blame Breny sanders, Sesame Street, lady Gaga, build a bear workshop, the CIA, soros, rothchild, and bill nye for the episode ban…
>>147150656>>147150685How the fuck is it about communism? Did you niggers never see the episode? You're fucking pissing me off. At least post a reason why you fucking think the gnome is a commie.
>>147150153>>147150172Upon further consideration, God was not evil when he created that. It is impossible by definition for God to be evil, so assuming God exists (he does), there must be another explanation that I don't understand yet.
>>147150685Wasn't it banned because it was religious themed or something? Never got why.
>>147150685>against CommunismWhat the fuck episode were you watching? The Gnomey episode was about resisting security state authoritarianism. The show got shitcanned because it sounded too much like being against US hegemony and domestic surveillance, and regardless of which wing of /pol/ you fly on as far as what you thought of the higher-ups motives, the executives knew where their marching orders came from.
>>147150749>wears red>takes away everybody's individuality and freedomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQBJkGtA5aU
>>147150761>>147150797>Red-colored gnome grants a wish to get rid of evil by making everyone the same>"HURRR DURR HOW IS IT ABOUT COMMUNISM"Are you people genuinely fucking stupid
>>147150799>Epilepsy shitFucking ow, my eyes… I now know why it’s banned…
>>147150761>>147150797Yeah it's just a red-wearing society that destroys all individuality and is run by a totalitarian collectivist state which is framed as being diametrically opposed to American values. Nothing about Communism here guys.
>>147150797>security state authoritarianismThat applies to communist countries as well. I don't doubt they had the Patriot Act and other examples in mind, but the episode had a broad theme of not giving up freedom for security. Which isn't exclusively applicable to US domestic surveillance.
>>147150749Did the American flag song talking about freedom not give it away?
>>147150813anon, anyone who thinks that it's not a fallacy to believe that there's "human nature" (fallacy of nature) but simultaneously ALSO says that we should have an economy that rewards and perpetuates the worst aspects of "human nature" is the one that's being fucking stupid
>>147150685It was Patriot Act commentary. Freedom was traded for security.
>>147150831>destroys individuality>totalitarian>nationalist>capitalists form statescongrats you described capitalism. you probably go to your commune every sunday though.
>>147150845I didn't say a single thing about human nature in my post, you're doing the very definition strawmanning.
>>147150845You don't believe there's any such thing as human nature? I mean its significance can be exaggerated, or unreasonably used as a justification for how things are in society, but we're undeniably wired a certain way and inevitably share some wants and needs.
>>147150859We are neither capitalist pigs nor commiesWe are environmental 3rd positionists
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>>147150797Anon, state authoritarianism has been associated with communism since the 20th Century. This isn't the rosy days of the era where people thought Marxism would destroy the state apparatus because Marx was opposed to it. Everyone knows how this shit goes down now.
>>147150685Was it even actually banned? It was a late episode of the PPG - maybe it just didn't air much?>The episode was pulled and banned in the United States from its timeslot on February 27, 2004 because Cartoon Network claimed that the metal beams in the destroyed buildings looked too much like crucifixes and that one of the hippies looked like Jesus Christ; it was also speculated that it was banned due to the stroboscopic effects seen in the "Hear Me Fathers" sequence. https://powerpuffgirls.fandom.com/wiki/See_Me,_Feel_Me,_Gnomey#TriviaThat's what the wiki says, but no source.>the episode wasn't included when the series was put on HBO Max.This seems notable though.
>>147150916It was included on Hulu I know (first watched it there). I wonder if there's some alternative explanation for the episode not airing much or being included at times.
>>147150799>>147150813>takes away everyone's freedom and individualityHe never did that.>prof singing about FreedomSo? Doesn't mean it's about communism. Prof was singing about bullshit too because like I said, the nigga never took their freedom away. DID YOU NOT WATCH THE FUCKING EPISODE????????????>>147150831>redMeh looks kind of pink bro. Also, it's just a color.
>>147150832>trading freedom for securityThat was the entire point. The big political issue at the time of its creation was the recertification of the Patriot Act and all of the extralegal shenanigans it had authorized that people had been discovering. People tend to forget or willingly gloss over how invasive that law was, and how much power it gave to our domestic spying apparatus with no tangible benefits regarding terrorism. It was right around the time Americans started pushing back on the government using 9/11 as carte blanche to shred the Constitution.
>>147150835No dude. There are many ore enemies to freedom besides just communism dumbass. And either way, Prof was just plain wrong. That gnome never made the people do any of that shit, and he never asked them to either. They chose it. If anything the PPG should beat up the citizens.
>>147150961>He never did that.Whether the gnome intended to or not, that was the effect of his "utopia" (as the professor sung about)>Prof was singing about bullshit tooMedia literacy issue
>>147150084Yes. 4chan is dying.
>>147150329>>147150070gnome is a simbol for state control throught social welfare, looks fine until you get on jail for say anything about goverment import milions of paki.
>>147150976I don't know how he did it, but he either made them do it somehow or at least encouraged them to worship him. Maybe the episode is confusing on this point, it's a weird rock opera.Also just look at this fucker, he's evil.
>>147150962>It was right around the time Americans started pushing back on the government using 9/11 as carte blanche to shred the Constitution.That 2004 - 2007 period was pretty fucking wild honestly. Everyone was fucking pissed.
>>147150962>That was the entire point.I agree. I'm just saying that the theme of the episode doesn't only apply to the current events that likely inspired it.
>>147151021He just looks like Jack Black to me.
>>147151047So evil.
>>147151047They originally wanted Jack Black for the part, but he turned them down. Instead they just drew him like Jack Black and had a similar voice. Maybe that's why the episode didn't air much lol
>>147151064Why the fuck would Jack Black not want to be in the Powerpuff Girls?
>>147151021>Citizens: Thank you for the butterflies,>Happiness has come back to our lives,>Thank you for the summer breeze!>From this day forth, we'll do our best to please!>Gnome: This is the best day of my life today,>This is the best day of my life.>Thank you for the praise you give today,>Thank you for the praise you give!>Thank you all, my children, thank you all, my followers!>Take this flower, live in peace,>Remember who changed your lives it was not police.>Take this flower, live for me,>Live for me in pursuit of your harmony.Yeah he encouraged it, even if they willingly devoted their lives to his cult.
>>147151085I'm guessing Jack was just busy or something, seems like the exact sort of thing he'd love doing.
>>147150329Is that Jack Black?
>>147150084PPG is on Netflix.
>>147150329>Live for me in pursuit of your harmonyHe didn't force them, but he did ask them to form a cult devoted to him. He can at least be blamed for that.
>>147151038And that's just it, I'm agreeing with you! I don't care if it's red with a yellow hammer and sickle, or red white and blue, if a state is turning 1984 into an instruction manual, it needs to be opposed. Honestly, the people clutching their pearls about X or Y missed the point, to the level of telling on themselves as far as what flavor of boot they prefer. Fuck tankies, and fuck wehraboos.
>>147151181>Fuck tankies, and fuck wehraboos.based
>>147151181Yeah then we agree 100%, just wanted to make it clear.
>>147151112It was supposed to be.
>>147150372Atheists really can't into theology and it shows.
>IF YOU LIKE THE CURRENT STATE OF SOCIETY YOU MUST BE A COMMUNIST >IF YOU DON’T LIKE COMMUNISM YOU MUST BLINDLY WORSHIP CAPITALISM what’s the political ideology for people who just don’t want to live under a oligarchy?
>>147151289Shut the fuck up cuck, you're either with me or against me, and if you're against me you belong to the specific group of people I personally don't like.
>>147150084More like the IQ.
>>147151289>Say one of these Communist or Fascist things or fuck off
>>147150780>It is impossible by definition for God to be evilHow convenient for your definition
>>147150070>removes all evil on the world>becomes Mao ChinaHow did that happen? He coudn't had used brainwash because Proffesor was literally rallying against the gnome
>>147150685We can't be attacking communism goy. Also its funny how Lauren Faust became a woke puppet after this anti communism episode and anti feminist episode
>>147150799WTF did I just watch?
>>147150797it literally only got banned due to seizure causing colors in some of the scenes
What was the message behind this song?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wgZwjb6zDs
>>147151485I mean either God exists as defined, in which case he's not evil. Or a different sort of divine entity exists than the Christian definition of God. Or there is no God or gods. I'm not claiming to know which is right.
>>147151518The weirdest episode of PPG.
>>147151567Citizens of every age and class joining forces to destroy the rot of society and the status quo
>>147151086Citizens were always portrayed as literal retards who coudn't defend themselves and were less smart than Powerpuff girls, i don't think the Gnome should had been blamed for citizens to willingly become slaves and cultists
>>147151567Funny thing is that originally HIM was suppose to sing "i will take your souls" so that would make a funny comparison to Ace singing "take your soles" but it had to be changed since it implied that HIM was killing citizens
>>147151673>but it had to be changed since it implied that HIM was killing citizensIt's not like most of Townsville's villains don't have a bodycount. Censorship was pretty lax during PPG's run.
>>147151696yeah but they had a funny flow and then they censor ruined it into Ace just randomly singing about old man shoes
>>147150780He is the Creator and we are His creatures. Who are we to question Him? I refer to Romans 9. In summary>God makes all kinds of people for all kinds of reasons, including those who aren't to be saved
>>147151085he thought he was above it I guess
>>147151634I agree Townsville is full of tards, but making yourself into a cult leader even if people are okay with it is pretty sleazy.
>>147151819Okay but I mean all he did was fucking ask them to throw away their lives one time and they did it. It just doesn't feel like he did that much.
>>147150961the rose that everyone lives around even looks like the Kremlin.this being read as anti-communist is super easy and obvious.
>>147151849Yeah I know what you mean. Episode felt really strange in general.
>>147150685They banned it because they claimed that the metal beams in the destroyed buildings looked too much like crosses and one of the hippies looked like Jesus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6gGfYa9_rc
>>147151008we don't go to jail for that where i'm from
to understand the gnome you need to understand who is pic related and why is he such a piece of shit that he was unironically one of the evilest people of the world
>>147150070You'll understand when you're older.
>>147155882I'm 37 and i still don't get it. Its like creators coudn't decide what do they tried to criticise. And in the end the "good" resolution is to dance with all the criminals, monsters and murderers telling them that they also have their place among normal people. Kind of make PPG the villains here.
>>147153179Holy fuck, that hippie chick is stacked
>>147150070You wouldn't??
>>147150685I thought it was banned because of the seizure visuals
>>147154623Robespierre did literally nothing wrong if you discount the beheadings and the insanity and the fact that he turned his back on literally everyone that he was allied to in a fit of tyrannical madness that betrayed the very cause he was supposedly advocating for and the mass paranoia and
>>147154623Robespierre wasn't evil, he was just an incorruptible leftist in a world of corrupt rightoid moderates. With his death, France was fated to return to a monarchy, undoing much of the revolution in the process. But his purges left it strong and enough of it endured to carry on his will.
>>147154623>>147156749>>147156755they literally didn't know how to do a revolution, idiots.if robespierre was anything, he was a counter revolutionary that stalled out actual change from the masses. robespierre is what happens when there's no plan afterwards and the people that are left in power have no clue how to make a democracy work for a population that is mostly uneducated who has no idea what they're supposed to do either. robespierre and useless beheadings long after the point was made is the reason vanguardism exists
>>147156935>he was a counter revolutionary that stalled out actual change from the masses.Fucking what, one of Robespierre's biggest problems was that he was putting out absurdly radical positions for the era. He was LITERALLY the one that made the Cult of the Supreme Being in an attempt to replace Christianity, banned Catholicism, and ordered the plundering of Catholic churches. That came DIRECTLY from him. He was the singular most major accuser of Danton's supposed affair with the aristocracy. He vehemently advocated for a total extermination of anybody that stood against the Republic. He was fucking radical as shit.
>>147156935>Calls other anons idiots>Proceeds to write something so completely off-base that it's basically the exact opposite of what happenedClassic 4chan
>>147157006endless beheadings isn't a plan for democracy
>>147154623>>147156749>>147156935I will never fucking grasp why anyone worships the French Revolution.Fucking literally everything about it was bad, not only was First Republic a despotic hellstate, in every meaningful way worse than the monarchy it replaced, it was also so weak that it immediately fell to another Monarch.
>>147157088The only successful revolution was the American revolution and that was because the people in power specifically faught so they couldn't have power.
>>147157097american "revolution" was just a power grab to make a new ruling class in north america, nothing more. there was still slavery, there was still no vote for women, it was just for wealthy white men, specifically people like andrew jackson who grew up involved in genociding native americans to be a land speculator
>>147150070Why does it look like young Jack Black?
>>147157078No it's obviously not, but characterizing him as a counter revolutionary is absurd. His problem was that he was so overly zealous that he began to see anything less than a literal actual extermination of anyone slightly less zealous than him as the only way to ensure the survival of the Revolution, which naturally ultimately doomed it.>>147157088People that get too caught up on the ideals and are willing to ignore the actual fallout as a result.
>>147157111anon you literally just explained how dooming the revolution is counter revolutionary wtf
>>147157115There's a difference between being a counter revolutionary and being so zealous for a cause that you take it too far, are you daft? A "counter revolutionary" has a very specific meaning of actively attempting to stop a revolution or reverse it. Robespierre never tried this at any point and was fully behind the cause even to his dying breath, he was just so ridiculously zealous that he incidentally led to its undoing. Please look up what a counter revolutionary is before accusing fucking Robespierre of being one.
>>147157115Accidentally dooming the French Revolution by by going full retard and trying to kill everyone that might even slightly be opposed to it isn't counter revolutionary dude.
>>147157115Being bad at being a revolutionary is not the same as being a counter-revolutionary you dumdum.'Counter-revolutionary' implies that he was undermining the revolution intentionally, there is no evidence to support this, he was it's most fervent adherent.
>>147157115>>147157134>>147157146Yeah Revolutions can doom themselves if they become overly zealous, just look at Mao. He was hardly counter-revolutionary, he was just so fucking retarded that China abandoned a collectivist economy after him.
I'm just gonna add to what others are saying and point out that Robespierre was basically the embodiment of the French Revolution down to his insanity and total iconoclasm of anything aristocratic. He was literally having people killed for wearing clothes that were too nice. Only Saint-Just was comparable as a literal embodiment but as wrathful as he was he wasn't quite as insane.
>>147150070>one of a handful of episodes in the post-movie era that was still kino and not flanderized bullshit>banned
All commies must hang. All Christians must be mocked into correction.
>>147150070Everytime this episode gets a thread it ends the same fucking way
