Both of their moms are pregnant so that's why they spent the summer together to get used to having to deal with another new sibling.And now Gwen and Ben are going to have sisters 10 years younger than them. ( And when there are older people are going to have rumors that actually Gwen and Ben beds love twins from that long vacation together they had.)
>>147157397Doesn’t Gwen have an older brother?Also their grandmother is an alien, right?Was incest allowed in her culture?
>>147157446 1 One was that established in the original series?2.This is an alternate Cannon.3 .An older brother isn't like dealing with a younger sibling also Benson only child despite having a twin cousin. 3 For Grandma being an alien I don't think even her kids knew anything about that let alone Ben and Gwen before that summer road trip and I don't think America law or societal norms recognize aliens from outer space culture as an excuse Also this would be the second time this family has had children from two spouses born about the same time.( Gwen and Ben were born the same day,)
>>147157397You already made this thread and it was ignored because it’s a stupid idea. Go beg some fanfiction discord to write it if you’re that obsessed with it. Actually before that, go take some basic English classes, you retarded ESL.
>>147157488English is my first language and this is not exactly the same as the last one and retarded it's not a diagnosis anymore it's just that it's all that legally means nothing.Also doing something twice between two days is nowhere near what one should be called obsessed.
>>147157397They should've remained classmates and her parents had her go with Ben and his uncle because the two families are close. They'd finally be a couple but the incest appeal would be gone.
>>147157580>>147157397Could they have done something along the lines of they are not blood related at the beginning of the story but the spending the summer together because an older cousin or someone are both of them are going to get married soon so Grandpa decided to take his grandson new second offered cousin he knew from school with the two of them on vacation? You could have some underlined romance without it being considered too incestuous because the two of them knew each other by being the same age but neither of them had said as each other's family yet.
They needed to rewrite her after she was changed to a cousin, but they didn't. So we have his cousin getting overly bitchy whenever any other girl shows interest in him.
>>147157580>>147157617I fully believe people wouldn't care for shipping Ben and Gwen nearly as much if they weren't blood related.
>>147157617>>147157847If the series took place in Japan, nobody would have batted an eye.
>>147158283You mean about the franchise in general or if Ben and Gwen be in the main ship for the fans of the franchise?
>>147158308The main ship.
>>147158283Japan's a bunch of cowards. They would've made them "related" but not blood related.
>>147157847I don't think so, if the only change in the original series was that they are no longer cousins, the interest in Bwen would still be very strong.>Gwen would still be the only girl Ben's age with some importance in the plot.>Ben and Gwen would still have opposite but complementary personalities, something that shippers love.>There would still be moments that are easy to misinterpret as romantic interest, moments like when Gwen gets angry when a girl flirts with Ben, if they were just friends there would be even more moments to misinterpret.>There would still be the plot development that the road trip made them get closer and like each other more, even though the original series is not written consistently it is something that is there.>It would still be canon that despite their disagreements they care a lot about each other, to the point where they would not hesitate to put their lives in danger to save the other, if they were just friends people would very easily interpret that it is caused by a romantic interest. >The original series would continue to have its moment of glory where it has good popularity in the United States and enormous popularity in China and Latin America.>Gwen would still have a cool design.>Although taboo relationships are an important motivator for many people, incest specifically is also a decisive factor in rejection for many others.
>>147158534>Japan's a bunch of cowards3 moms nine children 1 dad husband.
>>147157397>Little MomentsAt least this fic is completed.Author abandoned the sequel twice.
>>147158582It's a completely atypical case and you know it, most romance in manga/anime is incredibly safe and predictable, it's the reason why so many people still remember Botan.
>>147158598God, those were good. Minus the self-insert character.
>>147158799>>147158582What are you on about?
>>147157580I'm still surprised that this is real, for years I thought it was just gossip to justify Bwen.
>>147159730Why?
>>147160558Because I constantly saw that they used that fact to make Bwen look less bad, they didn't give any source, the few times I saw "evidence" it was terribly questionable and they added other things, like when the change was made and why, but there was too much variation in those things for it to seem believable.
>>147158539The problem with your post and a point that all Ben/Gwen shippers always gloss over is that Ben and Gwen were made cousins specifically to avoid any confusion about them being a couple in the first place.There isn't a universe where they aren't cousins because them not being in a relationship was always the point.
>>147158582NBR is a common term for manga readers for a reason. It's a big deal when they are related and an even bigger deal if they actually get together. But 90% of the time it's just teasing and loopholes.
I find pic related much more compelling and interesting then Ben/Gwen could ever hope to be. I get having an incest or loli kink thats what ever, but if you're writing an action series Gwen/Kevin gives you infinitely more to work with.
>>147158539>>147162551 Gwen's basic design was used on a well-known anime protagonist who original series got like 50 episodes.
>>147162714Eureka 7 predates Ben 10 by like 6 months actually.
>>147162759I didn't say they copied Ben 10. I already knew Eureka 7 was older by a bit.So it's probably just a coincidence that the two look like pallet swap then ?
>>147162551This guy >>147157847 was claiming that Bwen would be a lot less popular if they weren't cousins and I didn't agree with that opinion and gave the reasons why I think so, how possible that specific hypothetical case was doesn't really matter.> Ben and Gwen were made cousins specifically to avoid any confusion about them being a couplesource
>>147162942Dwanye McDuffie circa 2008 on his blog post after I gave the website to Bwen fans on Fanfiction.net.
>>147163087Dwayne McDuffie didn't work on the original series, he was the same guy who couldn't even admit he made retcons on the Plumbers and had a worse understanding of the characters than someone who only checks wikis, by chance do you have a better source?
>>147163087>>147163275Who Dwanye McDuffie?
>>147163275Ben 10 as we know it wasnt even the original pitch for the show. Gwen didn't even exist in the original original. I hate that I still have to argue this for such a long time, Bwen in all likelyhood was probably never in the cards simply because its not the kind of story they wanted to tell.
>>147163087Man, I remember the Bwen shipping days on ffnet back in the 2010s. I would watch Dwayne and some of the more prevalent fans of the pairing argue about it. Shit was wild.Anyway, post more Gwen.
>>147164714not on ffnet that is, but on whatever the website was that he frequented at the time. Bwen and whatever Kevin and Gwen was hated each other, but they both hated the Ben and Kevin shippers.
>>147164277>Bwen in all likelyhood was probably never in the cards simply because its not the kind of story they wanted to tellIt would've been eventually if they weren't related. After the OS they were dating other people so it's not hard to imagine them being a couple instead.
>>147164130He was a writer and producer on Alien Force and Ultimate Alien.>>147164277The point is that Dwayne was not exactly trustworthy for a number of reasons, so taking his statements as gospel and assuming things based on them is kind of stupid.
>>147164277>Ben 10 as we know it wasnt even the original pitch for the show.What was?
All bwen stories are either too schmaltzy or too crass
>>147164871That's basically the fate of every fanfiction.
>>147164871Every Bwen fanfic is either clear fetish stuff or the most hacky romance ever written. The same people who bitch about how unrealistic it is for Gwen to lust after a bad boy that tried to kill her will turn around and write or draw about how two 10 year old American blood relatives are totally in love with one another with a totally straight face.
>>147165574You say this as if fanfiction writing in a fanfiction is just as bad as fanfiction writing in an official sequel when it's not even remotely the same.
>>147165692Are you saying that weird incest fuckary would have been beneficial to the series?
>>147166230Of course not, learn to read, I'm saying that Bwen is bad writing that stays in a medium infamous for its bad writing, while KevinxGwen is bad writing in a medium where something decent is expected and in my opinion that is worse .
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>>147157397What autism is this?
>>147167787You are surprised with very little, this is nothing by /co/ standards.
>>147161810Idk why this made me kek so hard. Feels like classic shipping cringe or shitpost
>>147168064Because literally 10 seconds later this happens. Yeah I know its Lucy but still.
