>>147160471This is pretty indicative that they didn't even write out the plot despite Across supposedly being part 1 of a 2 part story.
>>147160471embarrassing, they should have just had a final fight with Miguel and Spot, then called it a day
Miles Morales has been the Cool New Thing™ for over a decade now, closing in on 15 years. He's had a MASSIVE push from Marvel, leading in his own movie less than 7 years after his creation. And yet:>His comics don't sell more than Peter's>His movies don't sell more tickets than Peter's>His games don't sell more copies than Peter's>He doesn't move more toys and merch than PeterHe's just not as much Spider-Man as Peter. He never will be. He's had fourteen years to fill that role and he just hasn't. He's nowhere near as popular except with black comic nerds (and maybe white cuck weirdos). He's never going to be the successor, not when Peter still brings in so much more money. They can give him Peter's villains, Peter's love interests, have Peter himself hyping him up. They can give him every other superpower in the book. None of it helps the character. His movies are glazed as masterpieces, yet they grossed less at the box office than The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - and that's not even taking inflation into account. ASM has had its worst run in years, absolute dogshit hated by everyone, and it STILL outsells Miles' book.Black Spider-Man is just another derivative. He's never been anything more than that.
The sequel was a bloated, poorly structured mess compared to the first. It should have never been a part 1. Have it be Miles v Spot and he has to recruit some multiverse Spideys to help out.
>>147160471It's not over, OP. In fact, the pic tells us it never even began.
>>147160471Shameik bros…
If Beyond the Spider-Verse got cancelled for production issues I would be so happy
>>147160524It really is, ATSV doesn't even have a third act.
>>147160894Being black and be 1,60 in América it's like be a dahlit Indian, it's over for you even before you start
>>147160894>my honest reaction to this news
>>147160908The third act was the spider-chase
What did Rocco mean by this?
Glad I only watched ITSV. I can't stand to watch Part 1 of something that may not get a part 2.
>>147160928>Being black and be 1,60 in América???
>>147161144He's clearly a racist and a nazi and literally worse than Hitler.
>>147161181he’s an ESL
>>147160928>AméricaLatinx or Macaco?
>>147160825Damn. When you put it like that...
>>147160471Imagine a multi million dollar franchise getting tanked all because of a black incel.
>>147160884The only thing that would make me happier is if the announcement happens right after Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills win the Super Bowl.
>>147160471They're trying so hard to perfect it, but all they're really doing is making people's expectations unreasonably high due to the delays.It's still surprising that the first one became a "classic" of western animated films, when the writing wasn't even that good.
Qrd on Miles' actor and his many fuckups?
>>147161181
>>147160471Into the Spider-Verse should’ve been a one-and-done movie. Maybe a sequel, but that’s it. Definitely shouldn’t have a two parter with only the first part out.
"I wish" as in Shameik is desperate to get it done with before he gets the boot for being poison? Please tell me the quote is his, it'll be so funny.
>>147161309>Hailed announces pregnancy on Game Day>Josh Allen wearing his Super Bowl ring on their wedding day>Hailee 8 months pregnant in her wedding dress>Shameik not invited
>>147161313I'm surprised how the second one ended up being so acclaimed, despite being a huge pair of blue balls. Pretty colors and cool sounds do wonders i guess.
>>147161321>hits on co-star Hailee Steinfeld during press junkets, she's clearly uncomfortable every time he does it>Steinfeld announces engagement to NFL qb Josh Allen, Shameik starts posting cope on social media>everyone drags him for being cringe>things die down>weeks later, Shameik posts video of himself with another Spider-Man actress, Laura Harrier, who played Liz in Homecoming>video text says "he found his MJ", implying he and Harrier are either dating or hooking up>social media thinks Shameik bounced back>until days later when Harrier posts video to social media saying she asked Shameik to take the video down because it's creepy and she's currently engaged to another man>turns out the video was taken a year ago>Shameik dragged even harder, briefly deletes his social mediaIt's died down since, but still funny
>>147161338If anything it should have been an anthology that focused on a new spiderman each go around.
>>147161368Modern audiences don't know dick about quality. They're easily sold on flash colors and omg "style."
>>147161418But... but then we won't be able to tell everyone how great miles is.
>>147161418Or a the very least a different team each movie. instead we get cemoes and multiversal level character assassination.
>>147161416This is a some real cringe. The guy actually doesn't get it.
>>147160825>yet they grossed less at the box office than The Amazing Spider-Man 2fucking LOL
I keep saying they wrote themselves into a corner. There's no way they can wrap up all the plot threads from ATSV in a timely and satisfactory manner. They fucked their golden goose just to strike back at Miles' critics. They couldn't do a condensed story with Miles and the gang and the Spot, they had to do the stupid ass Spider deathcult shit with Miguel.
>>147161797I saw a theory that Miles would be so focused on saving his dad that his mom ends up dying instead. It would be the most interesting resolution for me (which is why it won't happen).
>>147160471>yfw you're not a Milesfag
>>147160471So they just fucking lied for years about the third movie being close to done right?
>>147161277Everything Sony's done for Marvel outside of Spider-Verse and Venom has flopped hard.
>>147160497They’re really trying hard to figure out how top Miguel’s character-assassination death cult
>>147160825Miles is- in every way, including literally- just getting Peter's sloppy seconds. He's a cuckold character and everyone recognizes it (the people who like him like him FOR that and relate to that though)
>>147161950
Filenames are always suspicious...
>>147161416Was it autism?
>>147161952They actually had to walk back on that right on release as animators contacted journalists to tell them Sony was full of shit.
>>147160471>inb4 The Batman II releases first
>>147160894The face that killed a career.
>>147160894What emotion is this conveying?
>>147162235Reeves said recently that it's filming this year, so the final release date may actually be sooner than expected.
The chuds won.
>>147160825It's unfortunate but Miles will never reach the heights they expect him to reachI love the Spider-Verse movies, but it's more about the work done on it than the actual characters, it started a bit of a revolution regarding 3D animationThe first movie is miles ahead of the second one(that is just a bridge between the first and the third movies, it's like a filler episode)
>>147161313>>147161368>>147161422Wow who would've guessed that in a visual medium people would praise the visuals huhThe writing of the first one is ok, the second one is indeed a huge pair of blue balls with no ending, but you can't just discard the incredible work done by really good 2D and 3D artists because of thatAnd while the VA is a simp retard, the movies shouldn't be judged based on him and his actions, he's not anything beyond a voice
>>147162341We did not win. We did nothing. Everyone loses in the end. Within life there is suffering, such is the most noble truth.
>>147160471meanwhile the venom trilogy went off without a hitch. they should just drop miles and reboot venom with flash thompson. you can get a solid agent venom trilogy.
>>147162396The movies are visual diarrhea with dogshit subversive writing by people who despise Spider-Man and his fans.Good riddance.
>>147162470>The movies are visual diarrheashit taste>subversive writing The writing is bad, but subversive? lmao that's a reach, is this what happens when the only thing you consume is TV and movies?
>>147162415Let it go.
>>147162517Your little shtick of pretending to not perceive reality has gotten very stale. Find new material.
>>147160471Seriously kind of hope this movie never comes out, but I know that's not happening.And in any case, Part 3 somehow never releasing would probably only uplift the undeserving faux-mythic status of the first two Spider-Verse films even further, which I'd hate even more than a Part 3.
>>147160825was expecting this, was not disappointedtpbp
>>147162546A paranoid schizophrenic man who thinks he's getting gangstalked also perceives that as reality, doesn't mean he's rightYou have shit taste and a very narrow view of writing. The writing is bad, but it isn't subversive
>>147160825Exceptionally based pasta, as always, but you should really rename that file to into the Spider-Trash.jpg
>>147162581Seriously, there's no point to this. You'll just end up embarrassing yourself.
>>147162581Miguel?
>>147162616>You'll just end up embarrassing yourself.On an anonymous imageboard? Are you retarded?
>>147162396>Wow who would've guessed that in a visual medium people would praise the visuals huhNot me, given it looks and animates fucking horribly.
>>147162640Alright man.
>>147161950I have never touched a Miles Morales centered piece of media in my life
>>147162283>the bane of blackcels
>>147160471Just cancel it
The biggest problem Miles has always faced is;Who are you?NAH IMMA DO MAH OWN THANGno, I mean, WHO ARE YOU as a character. He STILL is Spiderman despite having 15 years of stories. He isn't his own character, he's Miles Morales, A Spiderman.
>>147160894If a 3rd movie does happen they're going to have to recast Shameik aren't they
>>147162918This isn't a live-action project, no.
>>147160825Of course he isn't Spider-Man, spiders can't shoot electricity nor turn invisible
>>147160825Based
>>147160894>>147162291
>>147161144LITERALLY who?
>>147160894Your reaction to when beyond has Miles lean in for a kiss only for Gwen to pepper spray him and kick him in the the gonzalos
>>147161418this is the smart solution. you could have done a gwen one. infact i have no idea why it wasnt the gwen one in the first place.
>>147163174Because she's a shit character.
>>147161333At that hight you should just cutemax. Trying to be cool and tough will just make you look more ridiculous.
>>147161368They were too distracted by the pretty colors
>>147160471Man this thing has turned into a giant Clusterfuck
>>147163192eh i like her
>>147163174ATSV arguably IS more Gwen's story than Miles'She's the only one that has a coherent starting point and motivation to guide her plot whereas Miles kinda just blunders in and reacts. The movie absolutely should have been about her dealing with trying to run away from her struggles back home and learning from Miguel and the other spiderpeople that all of the multiversal heroics mean nothing without a home to go back to and people to care aboutI would be neutral to maybe even positive on Miles if he'd just been an incidental supporting character that helps Gwen see that even with all the trouble family is worth fighting for
>>147161418This would have been a better idea but now they relagated most of the spiders to being Meguel drone
>>147162633>That public moundFug
>>147163231Anyone else think it's a little creepy that Miles drew so many pictures of Gwen, a girl he only new for a few days? And he kept following her when she said not too. No wonder Moore saw so much of himself in Miles.
>>147160471yeah it's done. Even if it gets produced it's gonna be a super safe cash cow they're gonna shit out for a quick buck. No idea why they made it a fucking part 1 if they didn't have greenlight for part 2 yet
>>147160471I am very happy, i hope this becomes one of those cursed movies that never finish production for whatever reason and there's never a miles movie again.
>>147161416Don’t forget that had a bunch of weird tweets, like saying that girls who go to the gym are just asking for it.
>>147162291She can barely hold back the disgust and contempt she feels for Shameik.
Into was a good fun one off movie but across just has a really weird tone outside of the fun spot stuff, everyone is miserable and upset and spider-man is reduced to cliches and tropes
>>147163298Hell we can have a different black spiderman for all i care, just not miles.
>>147163290I thought it was less not having a greenlight and more Lord and Miller having literally no story planned somehow
>>147163231i think gwen also has a more interesting reason to be an anomaly or whatever it is they called miles. she's literally supposed to be dead. and she's dead in most universes. all of the spiderguys have got to be uncomfortable as fuck around her. they could do some really in depth thematic stuff about what it means to be everyone's fridged dead wife.
>>147160825>Black Spider-Man is just another derivative.We should start calling him Blidey.
>>147163231It’s definitely her movie among the 3 films. But this is definitely the Miles Morales trilogy
>>147163287No.This is normal teen behavior.It was more cringe when his hand got stuck in her hair.Funny that she kept the haircut from that though. Probably makes her wet thinking about it.
>>147163410Aren't those guys called Steve and Logan? Spider-Man is a secret to everyone.
>>147160894
>>147163470
>>147163386The canon events are pretty random, presumably they're not even real but nobody knows that yet. But they're based on meta-;labels with the assumption there's a single main-character or atleast everyone is a specific role with general beats. Miles' issue is he was never supposed to be that character period, the Spider isn't from his universe at all not even getting into the fact that there was already someone in the Spider-role and Miles' interruption due to being Spider-fied is instrumental in his death. So presumably there could be more Gwens out there and the difference is her Petes keep dying like how Pete's Gwens keep dying.
>>147160471Jesus fucking Christ Sony get your shit together.
>>147163535i think the idea of being permalabelled 'hero' 'villain' 'love interest' 'npc' before you even do anything is all conceptually interesting. it's more like fighting against fate than anything.
>>147160471Good. Hope it dies on the vine, that shit has been awful for Spidey
>>147163410Notice how he even stole Pete's sad pose
>>147163535It would have been nice if there wasn't anything sinister about the spider society and they all just had to work together to stop the spot. But no just shoehorn in Mets commentary because you're butt hurt.
>>147160825brutal
>>147163287Their entire romance makes no sense at all.Gwen lost her universe peter causing her trauma and isolating herself which is completely understandable but im supposed to believe that literally all it took for her to get over her trauma and make a new friend was a conversation during a bus ride.Some people think the bus ride scene justifies everything because they talked for a few hours but again they only talked for a few hours but that was enough for her to say ok this is my new bestie now.In the second movie despite not seeing each other for over a year are already flirting and being more than friends and less than lovers even though they only met for an couple of days in the previous movie and didn't meet for a year.It's absolute bullshit, I could understand if she just open up to miles in the first movie and in this second one they become friends instead of forcing their romance and then use the third movie to solidify their romance but the writers are hacks that wrote way too much bullshit for the third movie and can't make it work.Im glad this saga become a failure.
>>147164165I think the idea was it was supposed to be one of those tragic romances that gay people love to make where they get really close for a couple days and then never see each other again. That if course falls apart because they barely interact and they never even went on one date let alone do something like lose their virginities to each other. What was the Miles plan anyways just be sad about this one girl forever?
>>147161418Yep and it even started like one with Miles not being in the first 15 minutes
>>147161950you guys are sad
>>147164393Oh Shameik, if only there was someone who loved you (and wasn't a pasty discord tranny)
>>147164393We are actually very happy we are not milesfags.
>>147160471Shouldn't have made Gwen a tranny. I told them so -"People wouldn't understand, actual majority don't understand and feel uncomfortable with this abnormal shit'. Didn't listen - faced consequences.
>>147164671I have it on good authority that black dudes LOVE trannies.
>>147160825>yet they grossed less at the box office than The Amazing Spider-Man 2Haven't seen Across, but for what it's worth, ItSV is a way better movie regardless of box office. Honestly Miles isn't even a bad character, it's just annoying how hard he's been pushed since ItSV's success.
>>147160471lollmao, even
>>147164671That's the least of this trilogy's problems. They tore everyone down just to prop up Miles.
>>147164791>Honestly Miles isn't even a bad characterDo you really think that? Miles was the least interesting spider-person, his writing constantly hurt the coherence of the movie, and his personality is basically superficial black stereotypes + traits stolen from Peter, even if those traits didn't make sense or clashed with the story.
>>147160471They got cvcked by Mamoru Hosoda.https://deadline.com/2024/12/scarlet-animated-movie-mamoru-hosoda-sony-1236240754/
Odds it actually comes out?More or less than the batman 2?
>>147165199It won’t come out before The Batman 2.
>>147165124What traits do you think clashed with the story?
>>147164393Cry harder faggot
>>147164165In the comics, she lets herself get arrested and sent to jail for killing Peter, so I don’t know why they decided to change that.
>>147160825> His movies are glazed as masterpieces, yet they grossed less at the box office than The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - and that's not even taking inflation into account.Brutal
>>147165229His intelligence basically means that he could have intentionally failed the entrance exam and gotten into the school he wanted with his friends, which basically destroys the family conflict of the movie.
>>147160825>He's just not as much Spider-Man as Peter. He never will be.
>>147161836That still fucks over multiple other plots>Miles being the anomaly loses importance since someone has to die anyway>canon events are confirmed to be bull and every Spider was letting countless people die for nothingThere's literally no way to write an ending that doesn't damn either Miles or everyone else, and for some reason I don't think they're going to shit on Miles
>>147165304It's not hard to believe he tried his best on the entrance test, but then wanted to flunk out when he missed his friends (or maybe got teased by them for being too smart).
>>147165194>cvcked*robed
>>147165349We both know that the movie at no point insinuates either of the two things, plus it's a super simple thought process, I've seen retards think about it and average people achieve it.
>>147165124>Miles was the least interesting spider-personThat's not true, Gwen was. Miles was the second-least interesting
>>147165326They wrote themselves into a corner when they could have easily just have made everyone a hero
>>147165465But if everyone is hero that means Miles isn't as special!
>>147165414I dunno, if that ruins the movie for you then you were probably trying to ruin it for yourself anyways. Smart guy being embarrassed to be smart isn't an uncommon trope.
>>147165488This, people might leave the movies liking some of the actually interesting and good characters instead of Miles
>>147160497I don't understand how something like that happens. Similar thing happened with the Star Wars squeals. Why wouldn't you write the whole story out first before making a multi-movie project?
>>147160471Lo, I thought the next movie was just half of the previous because of the cliffhanger. Why is it taking ages to get to the next part?
>>147161416>>147160894i'm honestly expecting this guy to be a weird sex pest who will get cancelled in coming years if he's shooting his shot with engaged women he's probably with every women
>>147165540That didn't happen nearly as much with the SW sequels as gets claimed. Abrams worked with Johnson during development of TLJ's script, and Johnson worked with Trevorrow on development of the third film. The problem is that all of Trevorrow's scripts got rejected and Disney was panicking because not only did they suddenly not have a script or director for the third film but TLJ was getting shredded by fans for the plot elements it set up.
>>147165540it's funny, apparently George Lucas did write out a whole 3 part story for them to use, but they just scrapped everything except for the female protagonist
>>147165509And that ended up happening anyway with Miguel being more popular with Miles
>>147165758it's incredible how ATSV's only impact was in Bara Miguel O'hara fanart for women and gay men.
>>147165499That alone doesn't ruin the movie, I actually think ITSV is fine, but there are a lot of problems with the script and Miles is the epicenter of almost all of them. If you can't even agree with the example of Miles' intellect, even though it is very simple and intuitive, then I don't know how you differentiate good writing from bad.
Will be DOA by 2030
>>147160825Yeah I liked Spiderverse but it's a darn shame how this era of Spiderman didn't really go so well. And it would seem that the third movie is on fire and may very well just burn up with all of the stuff going on.
>>147160838No. It wasn't bloated because they did in fact manage to develop all the elements in the movie with as much as they needed. And it is (presumably though we'll just have to wait) we'll structured because it's a part 1. Only having the Spot conflict would've cut out so much of the meat that makes the story great.
>>147163153>Not knowing who Rocco is
>>147161418>Pete, Miles, Gwen for first one>Miguel, Ben, Kaine for sequel
>>147165986I get your issue, and I agree somewhat. It just doesn't really worsen the movie to me since it's easily handwaveable.
>>147165414Smart for low tier school, not smart enough to get accepted into high tier school (or for whatever other minute reason missed the bar). It really is not complicated.
>>147161313They're better written than your favorite animated film
>>147166283sorry dude, Sausage party blows this outta the water every time.
>>147162291It's a combination of pity, disgust, and disbelief She's saying "dude... don't do that."
>>147166302Cope in 50 years people will be remembering these movies as some of the best to ever do it just like people do today (that is if AI doesn't destroy media and our knowledge of the past)
>>147166263But it is shown from the beginning that Miles has more than enough brainpower for his high tier school.
>>147166321in 50 years the rapebabies of the trannies jerking these movies off are only going to keep their memory alive by exclusively talking about the faggoty mental gymnastics their mentally ill parents would tell artists to kill themselves over for not following them to a T
>>147161418now THAT would've been fun
>>147160471we're literally never getting this stupid spider movie. Nobody in the crew's doing shit. I fucking hate Spider-Man now holy shit
>>147160471When are we gonna get a mayday movie/show?
>>147162291My 6'5 chad fiancee is going to punch your face then rearrange my guts tonight
>>147166507Lol, and Miles thought he had a shot against this dude
>>147160471I had no interest in seeing the sequel the moment I learned it didn't have the gang from the first back together
If they haven't even started VA i've got to assume 2027 is the earliest this could release. That'd still be a shorter gap than the one between the first and second movie but you generally want Pt 1 and 2 movies to have no more than a year between them. >LOTR was 3 releases with 1 year between them>Kill bill had 6 months between pt 1 and 2>Pirates of the Caribbean At worlds end released a year after Dead Mans chest>Harry Potter Deathly Hallows pt 1 and 2 released 8 months apart>twilight breaking dawn pt 1 and 2 a year apart>The Hobbit trilogy had 1 year between releases>Hunger Games mockingjay pt 1 and 2 had a year between them>endgame and infinity war had a year between them>It and Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning had 2 years between them>Dune had 3 years between moviesDune didn't even greenlight the second movie till the first one did well and MI had a shit ton of issues filming during covid.
>>147166507Oh boy I can't for the Bills to lose again
>>147166189That's why I fucking asked
>>147165540They are writing it around the audience expectations. If they accidentally made character they could fix it by making so it's the audience who is racist.
Best part of the first movie was an aging Peter acting as a mentor to Miles, walmart brand Spider-Man can't keep a story going alone.
>>147166890That sucked because Miles had to be the one to inspire him.
>>147160894QRD on this mug?
>>147166995read the thread, moron
>>147160894She's jewish btw.
wasn't this supposed to be 1 year apart from the last movie?
>>147167014No, faggot.
>>147167024And she's marrying a professional athlete. What's your point?
>>147160894I had my manager make this face not directly at me but after a conversation we had, but I’ve never tried flirting with her, I’m just extremely socially awkward with thick horrible shaggy hair in my face like a homeless person
>>147165680Also Carrie died.
Remember when Miles' uncle was a hitman who had no problems killing children, who only stopped because he recognized Miles? And at the end of the movie they had a BLM Rest in Power mural for him like he was MLK?I 'member.
>>147167455That's a pretty good depiction of black right's activism.
Why were they advertising it like it'd come out within a year when it wasn't even remotely close to being finished? Is this just Sony Pictures being retards as they often tend to be or is there more to the story?
>>147167455It's quite curious that despite scenes like this, fans of the film believe that it is a love letter to Spiderman.
>>147163287My man Miles is like what.. 15? 16? He has the teenage oneitis.
>>147167541Remember when Uncle Aaron helped murder the original Spider-Man?
>>147167596Isn't he about to graduate in the second movie? He was having that conflict with his family about what Uni he was going to, right?
>>147166473Honestly hopefully never. Any modern Mayday adaptation would be utter shit
>>147167520Wanting to keep up the hype, I assume. Alongside Sony being rarted
>>147167455>Rest in power (a variation on rest in peace) is an expression used to mourn, remember or celebrate a deceased person, especially someone who is thought to have struggled against systemic prejudice such as homophobia, transphobia, racism or suffered because of it, particularly in black and LGBTQ communities in the United States. It has been used to eulogize victims of hate crimes while protesting the social inequality and institutionalised discrimination that may have led to their deaths. It is a common phrase to use to honor someone's legacy, though as an activist.Was he an activist?
>>147167800Active in contract murder lol
>>147160471I’m just assuming Gwen’s va is tired of getting asked out by Miles’ va
>>147162215He thought voicing Spider-Man would get him laid, but he forgot he was Miles.
>>147161416What a shame,ick.
>>147161416There was definitely a third actress girl he got swerved by, but I can never remember her name or what she was in
I would have rewrote it to have miguel wanting to kill spot for being too much of a threat and Miles doesn't want to because in this version Spot is more mentally ill and Miles feels guilty, then when he sends the other spidermen after him they ask why before Miguel tells them there's no time and its an emergency so you have a reason for them to chase him.Then next film they all find out and it splits the society since most spideys wouldn't kill
>>147167833She's engaged now, so yeah
