>Wah wah wah. I'm a mutant. I have the power of god and people hate me for awesome and beautiful I am. Boo hoo. Life is so unfair.Seriously Fuck you, X-faggots.
>>14716220365 iq retards shouldnt be allowed to write comic books. theyre retarded enough as it is without retards at the helm.
>>147162203>Trying to use a comic written by Warren Ellis as an ownLOL
>>147162203He makes a good point, actually.
>>147162203Sorry that your x-gene is to be ugly.
This character and indeed this argument didn’t exist until the author decided to insert them into a story they didn’t create.There can be no points made if they are just ethereal concepts that can be introduced and removed with no prior foreshadowing or impact.
>>147163365Well, when you consider what the Brotherhood of Mutants and Morlocks represent, and how the X-men tend to be written nowadays as acting like the un-elected spokespeople for mutantkind on important matters like the several cures for mutation and whatnot, the "Pretty mutants who strut and preen and punch ugly mutants" thing isn't an invalid criticism. Especially considering Logan outright punches out an old man in a wheelchair after he surrendered, like the autistic angry manchild that he is.But it is kind of a shame they never reflect on this point or ever bring up this old fart ever again, if only cause it's something I don't think the X-men series really bothers trying to reflect on whether the X-men are unintentionally reinforcing a hierarchy between the "superior" mutants and the inferior/powerless ones or not. But then again, the X-men books are pretty bad at self-reflection nowadays, so it's probably better they just stick to surface level shit. They can barely handle "racism = bad" nowadays without going overboard.
>>147163779Useless or seriously disfiguring mutations didn’t exist before Morrison. Even the Morlocks were made that way by Caliban.
>>147163779The issue with that comparison is that the Brotherhood are legitimately dangerous because they are assholes. They weren't shunned from society because they were ugly, and arguably most of the Morlocks are not ugly either. Cancerman up there doesn't have super powers. He has a fucking birth defect and tumors. He's not a mutant, he's a living tragedy.
>>147164547>yall ain't real Mutants sweatie>get out my face you ugly flatscan
There are plenty of ugly mutants with dumb powers though. This doesn't really work.
>>147164628No x gene. No powers. Has a diagnosable condition caused by radiation. Should we pretend he's a failed Hulk instead?
>>147164637yeah but the x-men main team is always full of swimsuit models and geniuses. they made a containment backup team for the ugly mutants with shit powers completely separated from the most normal looking mutants
>>147163323Not really, his whole issue is purely "they call themselves mutants but they're hot and cool while I'm just a sad freak" but they didn't do shit to him. Like maybe he'd have a point if he tried to join them purely out of being desperate for a community and they said "sorry, X-gene only" but he was purely offended on his own damn thoughts. Also he can't be the only one deformed by the Nuclear Blasts, instead of being butthurt he could've made his own little colony of victims of Nuclear and Chemical Disasters like himself, but he wasted his random ass fortune on trolling the X-men.
>>147163779>the "Pretty mutants who strut and preen and punch ugly mutants" thing isn't an invalid criticism.It's about as valid a critique of 60s to 90s X-Men as the pseuds trying to take Batman down by claiming he's "a rich guy beating up the poor and the mentally ill". It's ignoring the context of why the villains are being punched, and pretending they're innocent victims.The Brotherhood don't represent ugly mutants who can't fit into human society, they're usually just a crew of henchmen assembled by Magneto, Mystique or some other terrorist leader who wants to kill or enslave people they see as inferior to them. They get punched because they're bad, dangerous people who have to be stopped.The Morlocks were supposed to represent mutants who couldn't fit into human society, and chose to hide underground, but they're also like a cult, following leaders who are usually villains, and rejecting any offers to help them or find them somewhere better to live than a sewer. If they get punched it's usually because their leaders have them attacking the surface yet again.From the 2000s onwards, especially from Decimation, the books really started tearing down the distinctions between all the rival mutant factions, and having as many of them as possible all living together. With the 'mutant community' as a largely unified bloc, mutant on mutant violence became more about punching the ones who just wouldn't fall in line behind the 'community leaders', or about who got to be those leaders. Things are broken and too many fans like it that way.>>147164497Wasn't that Masque, not Caliban?
>>147163779>the X-men books are pretty bad at self-reflection nowadaysDidn't they unironically form a "Genocide Team" that consisted of mutants with the power to end all life on Earth for the express purpose of letting humans know that there both were mutants who could do that, and that they were willing to do it? And wasn't Magneto "mutant Hitler" who had previously tried to do it part of that team?
>>147162203What would happen if it was public knowledge the mutants are a Celestial experiment and not an outcome of natural evolution?
>>147164497>Useless or seriously disfiguring mutations didn’t exist before MorrisonHate to be the "nuh-uh" guy, but they were already introducing them with Generation X. Grant Morrison didn't invent Chamber or Maggot or , he was arguably just following precedent by that point.>>147165009>From the 2000s onwards, especially from Decimation, the books really started tearing down the distinctions between all the rival mutant factions, and having as many of them as possible all living together. With the 'mutant community' as a largely unified bloc, mutant on mutant violence became more about punching the ones who just wouldn't fall in line behind the 'community leaders', or about who got to be those leaders. Things are broken and too many fans like it that way.That's about closer to what I was thinking with that diatribe, because I won't disagree with you that if we were actually talking about the 60s to 90s X-men, you'd be 100% correct. But then again, the fact that they utterly ripped apart the metaphor by making the majority of the mutants flip from "regular people like you and me but with powers" to "the freaks who humanity outright fears due to how nasty or how powerful they are" kind of did a massive number on the whole "dream of living in harmony with humans" thing to start with.I'll at least clarify that the dude isn't RIGHT, given how he started the whole thing cause he was jealous of the X-men and wasted his life trying to kill them, but pointing out that the X-men definitely have a lot of advantages compared to the average mutant that they refuse to acknowledge.
