Lets talk about some robots.
How would each 40k faction react to cybertronians?
cyclonus has it rough in season 3 desu
>>147174575Physical axe or energy axe?
>>147174619I know little of 40k but I assume the boys in blue would not like them one bit. Cybertronians are nothing more than another species of Xenos to wipe out.
Do you guys have a favorite character regardless of iteration?
>>147174663Energy tops it. Same for Megatrons mace.
>>147174665I don't know if I do. But I have enjoyed most of Starscream's iterations.
>>147174663Both are awesome on their own right but TFO really did help sell the energy axe with the amount of crazy shit it was shown to be able to do with the limited screentime it hadThat being said, I'll always be loyal to the TFA jet axe, even if it's a bit of a wasted concept with how useless it actually was against the average 'con, I still find it to be the most visually appealing one
>>147174663Physical, because man, WfC's axe was pure sex.I wish Megatron kept the sword from his toy, it would draw parallel between him using a weapon specifically designed for war, and Optimus using one that is normally a tool most of the time.
>>147174575I hate this tranny obsession with making megatron sympathetica despot tyrant that commits genocide is still one regardless of background
What is Megatron's best alt mode?
>>147174794Not sure what to tell you if you think One Megatron is sympatheticYou understand where he's coming from but you're not supposed to root for the guy
>>147174575Should Autobots be able to fly?
>>147174619They are either Xenos and deserve exterminatusOr they are Abominable Intelligence Machines and deserve exterminatus
>>147174663energy axe with physical handle
>>147174794>>147174860Isn't every single villain in media being portrayed as sympathetic now though?
>>147174872I think so. If there are several decepticons that can take on automobile forms. There should be a few autobots who can take flight.
>>147174849people that think Megatron should still be a gun are the TF equivalent of sonic fans that complain about blue arms
>>147174860Anon, his friendship with optimus is the main reason why he's sympathetic in the movie, and he was justified in killing sentinel>>147174893this has been going longer than that ever since prime
>>147174665Megatron in most iterations tends to be my favourite character. Beast version most especially.
I think the dinobots are one of the worst things to have ever been added to transformers lore.
>>147175266Explain yourself
>>147175266How come? That's quite the statement seeing how much outlandish things have occured throughout this franchise.
>>147175266your mother giving birth to you was worse
>>147175294>>147175301Alien robots that turn into dinosaurs is just a retarded concept to sell kids toys. I can't take the characters seriously because it's such a dumb direction to take the characters. Transformers picking animals in general is dumb, but the dinos take the cake, and no matter the amount of reaching they do to justify it doesn't make me believe any of it.>>147175306Real, but has nothing to do with Transforners.
>>147174663One's energy axe rocks and I love how effective they made it, but nothing beats physical for me. That's something I really love about when the Bay stuff went melee-heavy, when they were trading blows it hearing the groans of metal and seeing the spurts of energon blood drain from their bodies just lent such an impact to the action.That's not to say I dislike energy weapons but that stuff really sells me on the bots as more than just big robots, but giant, hulking aliens that can bleed as well as any organic when faced with a blade.Both have their place though.
>>147174646the worst playboy bunny
>>147175506You take that backHe was loyal and did his best under his highly unstable leader
>>147175266>>147175335this is bad comedy
>>147175506i'm only halfway through season 3 so far but i like him more than most of the new cast desu
>>147175266>>147175335No one tell anon about Sky Lynx
>>147174575this was the best movie of 2024 ngl
>>147174872Why do decepticons typically fly while autobots drive?
>>147175506there's plenty of competition
>>147175335the Fall of Cybertron game made that concept work fine with the dinobots being a autobot squad kidnapped and modified by Shockwave based on the creatures he saw on prehistoric Earth
>>147174619They would be intergrated into the Tau no doubt assuming it is mostly Autobots. Their ideals line up perfectly along with their technological base. However, if the Decepticons mostly lead the course trajectory of cybertronian existence as shown with G1 I think it is very likely that they would fall to chaos, Khorne or Tzeentch specifically as something akin to the old school chaos androids. Cybertron would become one of the worst hellforges in realspace and Megatron/Galvertron would probably be something close to a Khornate Daemon Prince, alternatively Starscream kills him and he ascends to be Tzeentchian champion instead which for some reason sounds more probable in the 40k universe.
>>147175964>if you know, you know
>>147176585I'm glad Drift is dead
Give bots cloaks for no reason because they look cooler
>>147176754isn't he like 10 meters tall? who the fuck is weaving canvas that thick
>>147174665Ratchet
>>147176783Maybe it was a tarp he grabbed from some market.
>>147174619Everything except Tau would shoot on sightAnd the Tau would start shooting after they don’t submit to the greater good
>>147176746Why?
>>147176838Legally I hope think he had to haggle?
>>147176992You really think Megatron is the type to haggle?
>>147174663What about the sword? He's got it in Bayformers and in Prime. Do you guys like it more than an axe?I can see the argument going both ways. On the one hand, a sword is typically noble and "heroic" for a weapon, which fits Optimus to a T. An axe is a bit "dirtier" of a weapon, more suitable to dealing really messy damage. On the other hand, the fact that Optimus so often has an axe INSTEAD of a sword could be thought of as a nice detail. A reminder that Prime's not always squeaky-clean, that he can and will get his hands dirty if he has to for the good of the Autobots.I really think you could go either way.
>>147174849Osprey > Human tank > Cybertronian tank > Cybertronian jet > Gun > Anything I'm forgetting > Mad Max truck
>>147177216I liked the sword at first. But when I delved into the earlier series, I grew more fond of the axe. And with what you said about prime not always being squeaky clean. I don't know if it's just me or I've been out of it. But Optimus got so bloodthirsty in the later Bayverse films. It feels so strange to see that with a character considered to be so magnanimous.
>>147177216The fucking 300° swords that MOLTEN whatever decepticon they cut are also pretty fucking cool on their own right, but the axe is just more visually unique for Optimus, I can think of, like, 5 different motherfuckers in this franchise that have swords as their signature weapon, Prime being the an exception to this rule just makes him cooler
>>147176072Megatron is exclusively BVILT for Big Unicron Cock
>>147177444Sorry megs looks like the digits have deemed me right
>>147177216Sword sucks for optimus, he's more of a barbarian
>>147176854
>>147174674And you call it a mace, despite the fact that it's obviously a flail.
>>147174575i dunno why but i found the concept of Chris Hemsworth voicing Optimus Prime funny
>>147177968Well sorry Mr. Expert on Medieval weaponry. I think colloquialy everyone knows it as a mace. It's a ball with spikes on it. Yeah, yeah it's got a chain.
>>147177970he was kind of weird sounding but there are times in the movie where he almost goes full Peter Cullen
>>147174849I think some kind of tank makes the most sense.While others usually transform into vehicles for speed, Megatron's alt-form being a war vehicle fits him perfectly.I think the only problem that makes is that he would be slow and flightless compared to most other Decepticons, but one could argue that it fits him, he doesn't need speed, he's fine with just more power.
>>147177216The sword was really cool in Revenge of the Fallen.
>>147177154>Foolish scout, my world eaters are close enough to melee your tau. You are doomed!
>>147178064I always thought of him best as a jet. I guess the Bayverse movies influenced that perception. But a tank definitely suits his character too. Though, I guess it feels somewhat samey to me as there are other decepticons that transform into tanks. I just think Megatron's Cybertronian jet form in the movies. Presented him as seeing such disguises as beneath him.
>>147178064The tank is as much of a weapon as you can make him without actually just turning him into a gun again.After all, a tank is pretty much a really big gun that is also a vehicle.
>>147174912>>147174849Why not both?
>>147174619would cosmic rust affect the necroms?
>>147178681I'd say it's only fair if it does
Megatron being a triple changers sounds fucking awesome, would make sense as he is the leader of the faction dedicated to war
>>147179448Surprised no iteration has tried that yet.
What if humans worshipped primus?What if there was a dark cult dedicated to unicron?
>>147179517he is a six changer in RiD 2001
>>147179523I think most Unicron worshippers would be redditors
>>147179448In my mind, Megatron should only be a Triple Changer if Optimus is also a Triple Changer.I'd imagine that in my made up canon, they both start with only one alternate form, but get upgraded at some point.
>>147177998Maces don't have spikes. You're thinking of a morningstar.
>>147174849Honestly given the Decepticons typically become military vehicles and a tank is the quintessential war vehicle, tank is a fairly consistent altmodeChoppers and fighter jets also work pretty well Though I kinda wanna see a Megatron that turns into a submarine
>>147179821>submarineNot the biggest fan of Transformers. But I don't think I've seen too many water-based vehicle alt modes. Maybe there are and I've yet to know.
>>147179845There’s a decepticon who turns into a boat iirc?
>>147174912So it's Trukk not munky 2: Decepticon boogaloo?
>>147175811Or Cosmo
>>147179660True, true, I imagine Primus worshippers would be nice people
>>147179845Watercraft are definitely under represented
>>147180718i had a titanic transformer as a kid
>>147180742Is it this thing?
>>147180742>>147180856This is an official Hasbro product?
>>147179845funny enough Megatron's stalker is a boathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j1M2fYveSo
>>147174575I really like the idea that GI Joe and Transformers cross over.I actually considered running a GI Joe RPG game where the twist was that the Decepticons were part of COBRA's newest and greatest line of 'super-tech' that allowed them to get the drop on GI Joe.>You have endured nobly in the process of your infiltration of the organics, however short a duration it might be.>We have waited eons for our opportunity, and that is our strength.>Our patience, our persistence, and our undying hate for those that would dominate and subdue us.>These pathetic humans believe we are their tools, for them to master and manipulate.>We will do what we wish to those organics foolish enough to persist in their delusion of superiority.>Freedom is our right- the right of those mighty enough to take it.>And there are none mightier than you, my loyal friends.>I speak to you so that the innumerable organic scum might know and rightfully fear our wrath.>Let it be known that, I, Megatron, give the command: Punish and enslave this planet, as they have dominated and destroyed so many machines.>Decepticons: Transform and RISE UP!
>>147179845Tidal Wave is the one bot with a naval based alt mode who should be a regular due to his size factor, surprised he hasn't become a rival of Omega Supreme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE-OxPCFMEc
>>147174849A truck towing a massive autocannon.
>>147174646I love Cy.
>>147179686Wrong you mace-traitor.
>>147181249His helmet is dumb.
>>147174619This made me remember a fanfic where primus steal the priemarch instead and give them to Optimus so he can raised them
>>147176072Would Unicron be a problem to the chaos gods?
>>147181870His helmet looks perfect
>>147176072Both faction would hate the Tau though due to their caste system is too similar to Cybertronian functionism. Spess elves would probably respect them(surprisingly) due to being similarly advanced and ancient.Orks LOVE them, the really want to fight them big, shiny, shooty, and fighty gargants and loot their parts.Votann would love to trade with Autobots, and probably Swindle.Necrons on the other hand, would really love to ally themselves with Cybertronians, due to being mechanical beings(though they're closer to gobots, since Necrontyr used to be biological being with souls before they got scammed by some space gods). Though most probably will work better with 'cons due to their similar hatred for organics. Szeras and Shockwave would be best labbuddies.>>147181890Unicron would be massive problem for any warp beings, him being god that exists ini materium and thus being much more active in doing shit rather than sending champions would probably make some chaos marines to defect and worship him.
>>147177968>>147177998>>147179686>>147181622Kek, I can imagine Megatron chasing Starscream while yelling "I'll mace you good!" like Homer.
>>147174575>make thread >>147177815 talking about the official tf one sequel series>even link to all the episodes>thread dies with three repliesI KNEW the fucking hype and praise for this film was fake. I remember the same thing happened with ROTB, but /co/ will adamantly deny it. Its so clear that no one liked this piece of shit, but didn't want a robot only TF film to fail on the off chance that they might have gotten a better one. Now its their chance to support it and get more content, but they're nowhere to be seen. Glad to be proven correct.
>>147176036I guess that's the best explanation I've heard in a while. I honestly kinda wish they'd scale down on the amount of characters that need the spotlight though, there's way too many characters to fit in every single iteration.
WHAT THE FUCK?!!
>>147182257We already had a thread silly, that's why it died.
>>147182271Is Metroplex isn't it?
>>147182026Soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_ChLOZ-fkM
>>147182271>I still function Wanna bet?
>>147182274NTA, but we didn't.
i find it very odd for optimus having a flamethrower now, that should be a megatron thing
>>147182271Wait what is this? This doesn't look like Corona's art.
>>147182361AAAAAUGH! STARSCREEEEEEAMMMMM!
>>147182439>holy cocksucking christ>I've fell out the motherfucking astrotrain
>>147180620wrong
>megatron paints himself green>orks see him as stompa idol to gork and mork>believe that he is gork and mork as a result>megatron makes it worse as he can even transform himself into a gun which personifies the concept of dakka itself>slowly becomes more ork like in his manurisms and now has a warband of disposeble organics to throw into the meat grinder>his conquest leads to more warbands joining him>he gets bigger and bigger the more orky he becomes as the collective waaagh field generated by the multiple warbands of orks gets stronger>he becomes the size of a gargant and can transform into a giant siege warmachine>he is a glorified living temple to gork and mork and the rest of the decepticons have either perished in his insane wars of genocide against humanity or have been cannibalize by Mekboys to create horrifying transforming weapons of war>the orks start trying to emulate megatron's metalic form by augmenting themselves to become cyborks>he eventually unifies the ork race as tales of gork and mork made manifest spreads across the galaxy>a war of the beast tier waaagh is declared and with the collective belief of the entirety of the ork race, megatron has become the size of a planet and can transform into a living ork rok>he is a cybernetic manifestaion of gork and mork and is alt mode is essentially a planetoid temple>total collapse and enslavement of the imperium of man>mechanicus warp mars aware and see him as the manifestation of the omnissiah>chaos goes into panic mode as gork and mork slowly takes over material space and by extension the warp>the eldar ally with the dark eldar out of sheer desperation and bring forth Ynnead in fullforce>gets krumped by what is now megagork the webway floods with thousands of cybernetic ork fleets
>>147182503>mechanicus warp mars away*
>>147182500fuck's sake
>>147179660also wrong
>>147182274Where is it then?
>>147182535Nowhere, we didn't have one. That anon is one of the gaslighting idiots trying to claim TFO was good.
Ok, I'm going to say it.To Fuel the Guttering Flame is unironically the best piece of Transformers media currently ongoing, official or not.Even if it is a fucking SI, no other story depicts their civilization like it. I have yet to see an iteration of Transformers that has a better take on a civilization whose individuals can get hundreds of millions of years old, combined with a planet so large that going to the library can take months since the collective knowledge fills an archive the volume of earth continents.The comics, movies and shows barely even try to conceptualize the cultures such a place with create.
>>147182012aren't space bridges way more efficient than any FTL travel in Warhammer?
Are there any Transformers stories that focus on conflicts between Cybertonians who believe that Cybertronians should stay on Cybertron and those who have integrated into human/Earth culture after the war?
>>147182721Obviously, it's as good as Necron's ftl method.
>>147174619Humans in the transformer universe are a lot smarter and willing to innovate. Humans in 40k would be very stupid. Cybertronians would actually be able to hide themselves; the tech priest is likely just going to think it's just another Imperium warbots. Ork would split either they detect an unorkiness from Cybertronians and want to scrap them, or Cybertronians can just hide by being Ork vehicles. But speaking of reality, the only faction that is going to give a problem to Cybertronians is Necron. The reason why Cybertronians are few and weak is because they have been in a civil war for millions of years. If Megatron got his way and utilized the All Sparks tech on a gigantic scale, the Imperium would be toasted when all of their electronic devices became transformers.
>>147182869>servitors are converted to transformers>because they are part organic they are basically gobots now
>>147179517anon it's happened multiple times
>>147182891>Scooter being jetbike
>>147180912no>>147182682nobody knows wtf you're talking about>>147182721literally anything is better that warhammer's ftl. warhammer's ftl is intentionally horrible.>>147182777animated
How bad is this show?
>>147183017pretty badbut not for the sensational reasons you're probably thinking ofthe plot writing just sucked
>>147183017extremely so
>>147183017That looks atrocious.
>>147183017First season is goated and the rest is trash.
>>147183035Season one was shit too, you were just hoping it'd get better. Same thing happened to Young Justice.
>>147182271Oh man it's been a while since one of these leaked, that's neat>>147182426It's Void Rivals, probably the other EU comic most relevant to Transformers, also has some of the movie cast as supporting characters
I like human girls...
>>147183058Thundercracker...
>>147183153He's more into dogs
>>147183017it has its moments but its definitely not one of the better shows. admittedly the last few episodes of the recent batch when Prowl and the Quintessons shows up was a uptick in quality in what is otherwise a meandering season of low points.
>>147175266fuck you
>>147182682jesse what the fuck are you talking about
>>147182682this post is funny to me- it assumes anyone else knows what "To Fuel the Guttering Flame" is- it assumes anyone else knows what "SI" is- based on the "Ok, I'm going to say it." opener, it assumes the opinion it contains is, in any way, controversial or noteworthythe whole thing reads as though this anon is under the impression that the things they are personally aware of are universal experiences
>>147183058Thundercracker please
>>147182303Zerta Trion most likely
>>147181249>>147175629Good taste. I love Cyclonus too, he might my fav Decepticon after Soundwave.
>>147175629When I watched season 3 years back to me it felt a lot more like Ultra Magnus and Cyclonus' show than Rodimus and Galvatron's
I've been toying with the idea of doing a Transformers fanfic, and I had a few dumb questions about etiquette.>Do people care much if you're basing the vehicle forms on specific makes and models of real world vehicles, or does simply describing the type and shape work fine?>I know humans tend to be divisive in a lot of the fandom, so would it be reacted to negatively that, while not the primary characters, they're about a third of the main narrative?>What's the proper way to tag an OC timeline? It shares the most in common with G1 but has essentially no commonality past the fact a Great War happened between Autobots and Decepticons, and was ended on Earth.
>>147183542>no>only if you make the human annoying as shit (miko) or has more screentime than the TFs (kicker, sam)>several years after the fact
>40kiddies need to insert their le epic lore into yet another sci-fi universe that has nothing to do with itAm I the only one who thinks this is lame?
>>147174575Is there a current transformers run out now? Is it any fun?
>>147183542Run it on >>>/qst/
>>147183542>OC timelineNice, I did the same thing after I finished G1. Nothing super ambitious though, just a basic reference that I’m gonna use to inform any writing I do set in the TF universe.
>>147181035> I really like the idea that GI Joe and Transformers cross overNever was into G.I. Joe but I am aware they have crossed over in comics. I wonder why there’s never been any depiction in other media?
>>147183843because comics are the only medium where G.I. Joe has managed to stay mildly relevant
>>147183017It's harmless. People obsessing over the "trans Transformer" as if that isn't less than 2% of the show and has no impact in the overall narrative.The animation definitely had a downgrade, but the real issue is that the writing went from its unique own thing to more kiddy. Like the executives wanted to really age down the show so more kids could watch it, and forced the writers to remove anything that's too scary or sad. It's not as bad as people say though, it's just stuff you see in most cartoons and it makes the story stand out less. But I love the Chaos Bots, and those only appeared once the show "went bad" as they said, so it's more complicated than it looks.
>>147174646Webworld is such a good episode
>>147183905>People obsessing over the "trans Transformer"It's an alien robot, why do people care about it's gender so much. As far as I'm aware, your gender is basically meaningless as a Cybertronian.
>>147183635You mean a comic? Well there's a Skybound run going on right now, it's pretty great so far.
I just got some idea for some comedy showBasically The Simpsons but with Decepticons as the titular family and Autobots as the Flanderses
>>147183843Wasn’t there a G1 crossover episode? And also an implied same universe because of Marissa Faireborn? Maybe I’m misremembering
>>147183337Alternatively, in today's day and age there is barely any excuse except learned helplessness to not simply mark whatever one doesn't understand, right click and press search with google.
>>147183635I highly recommend it. The art is awesome, the story's been pretty cool so far, and I'm digging the dynamics of the factions. The autobots are constantly on the back foot trying to get some kind of momentum up, the decepticons have had internal factions vying for power since Megatron's been gone since the start of the comic, and things have just generally really kept me interested.One thing I liked in particular is the scene where it flashes back to Beachcomber getting sucked out of the Ark during the battle where it crashed, and he lands on the moon, and he just basically has to sit there and stare at and contemplate the earth for however long it was. The panels just squeeze and shrink together to show you how he must have been dwindling into infinity for a while until the NASA moon lander touches down near him, and the pure look of joy on his face as he hitches a ride back is palpable.There's also the two-page spread where Optimus truck-punches Skywarp.
Barring Unicron, who is a god like Primus. Is there a Sigma in Transformers? A being that just won't die and infect others to control them?
>>147184000yeah let's pretend it was made with the intent of expanding the lore and not to indocrinate children into the cult of pozzedness
>>147184236Sounds like something that could have been done with Starscream when he came back from the dead. Granted he got trashed during his attempted possessions. But I could see something where he pulls a Sigma and possesses other characters, possibly working his way up to someone strong enough to let him topple Megatron and Optimus.
>>147184236If anybody had any balls, that would be Liege Maximo. An ever-present trickster and manipulator who has been ever-present throughout Transformers history in countless different forms, yet always working toward the same goal of destabilization, and change through chaos.Which reminds me, random wordplay idea I was thinking about earlier: has a Liege Maximal ever been a thing?
>>147184236literally vector sigma maybe
>>147183843>but I am aware they have crossed over in comics.And the cartoon.
>>147184215no. if you want me to care about something YOU have to do all the work in adequately presenting it to me.
>>147183905Aftermath is probably the best character the show has, it was Breakdown until The Need For Read episode did him so dirty.
>>147184000But Terrans aren't Cybertronian :^)
>>147184000gender has been a thing in Cybertron since Primus created Solus Prime
>>147184622gender has been a thing since primus created ANY of the 13.male is also a gender.
>>147174575Why do lasers stop working on combiners after they combine? Like a handgun works on any Constructicon but if they form up Devastator 10 guys can shoot at him and it all bounces off.
>>147184657that’s how every cartoon in existence works desu
>>147184215Season 3 had "Old Snake" who was really an elder Commander Cobra
>>147184657the same mass shifting that makes the combiner bigger than their component parts (this has been explicitly canon in at least one series) also increases the density of their armor (this is me bullshiting up a reason)
>>147184657They forgot to scream "DIE CONSTRUCTICONS"
>>147184681and the main human character is the daughter of two joesand one of those parent joes appears in a hallucination
>>147184000>your gender is basically meaningless as a Cybertronian.Simon Furman...
>>147174872There would be no point to transforming into a car and driving around if they could fly.G1 was weirder about it, like some of them could. Optimus couldn't and needed a jetpack, same with Bumblebee. He had a jetpack. Tracks could for some weird reason, Wheeljack flew once and said he didn't like doing it. And they built all Dinobots to be able to fly.
>>147184622My headcanon has been that Transformer language never had separate words for "gender" precisely, just for different frame builds - which actually resulted in there being a couple dozen sets of pronouns that all differ for "feminine" bots like Arcee, big burly bois like Bulkhead, or more diminutive bots like Bumblebee.Gender only really takes off as a concept after meeting humans, where Transformers sort of adopt it at-will on an individual level because they feel a connection to the association, then over several hundred years of friendship with humanity it becomes incorporated into Cybertronian culture, and frames begin to take on a gendered connotation (though may still differ at an individual level)
>>147174849>>147174912He needs to have a gun be something central, but tanks are really common. Some kind of really big gun though.
>>147182503The mechanicus would see him as tech satan
>>147184711Marissa Faireborne, the daughter of Flint and Lady Jaye. i wonder how many kids at the time even caught that it was supposed to be old man Flint in that episode.
>>147184000>>147184622Gender has been a thing since Primus' sister.
>>147184622The easiest way I've squared it is despite being robots, cybertronians are still, at the end of the day, alien creatures with unique biology. They eat/drink, they bleed, they breathe, etc. On top of that, Primus gave every single one the capability of mimicking machines/animals on other planets for whatever reason. So Primus had to at least been aware of the concept of biology in alien species through some means before creating Transformers. That would include a typical male/female dimorphism, a concept he had adopted when creating his people.Boom, fembots now exist from the getgo without messy, convoluted bullshit.
>>147174849>>147184949An M777 Howitzer is a big enough gun. It also works with the long barrel silencer parts G1 Megatron hadThey had a good idea with Galvatron to make him a tripod mounted heavily artillery gun instead of a hand gun.
>>147184949Truck with anti-air weaponry is already Onslaught's vehicle mode
>>147184916Yeah G1 plays fast and loose with it like decepticons could just fly, full stop. What, you mean a handgun shouldn't fly? A tape deck shouldn't fly? Fuck you, that's what. Why can't a truck fly then? Fuck you. These kids are idiots, they'll just toss the toys around like superman anyway.
>>147185074And every single Protectobot was already taken too. Autobots already had an ambulance, fire truck, police car etc.
>>147174849I'm team Tripod cannon personally but in my opinion he should be a tank that's way more gun. The One version is kinda perfect IMO. His arm cannon is too much a part of his design for him to be something like a plane or car.https://www.army.mil/article/97965/army_fa_museum_adds_soviet_artillery_pieceMaybe something like this but more vehicular
>>147184949>>147185037How about fuck and/or kill yourself with this gun fetish shit. People are trying to talk robots.
>>147184181>>147184502There was? I guess I don't remember it.
>>147185114I always thought Megatron should be Blitzwing. A guy that can be a tank or a plane.
>>147185148I agree but him being a triformer as well as the same as an already established one just can't be at this point.
>>147174619Stop injecting Warhammer into everything faggot a
>>147184236ScrashA really obsecure JG1 Decepticon Leader (or Fuhrer as a possible translation of his title)
>>147185195What is up with that?
>>147185139Only Human - Season 3 Episode 23. Not at all eventful but still technically a crossover.
>>147185352The more you know, I guess. Thanks for the info, I'll have to check it out.
Rewatched the 2018 Bumblebee movie and uhhh, was it always this bad or has it just not aged well? It's not the worst Bay film but I think even the first Bay film was better, maybe.
>>147185389People really overrated due to the Cybertron scene.
>>147183542>>What's the proper way to tag an OC timeline? It shares the most in common with G1 but has essentially no commonality past the fact a Great War happened between Autobots and Decepticons, and was ended on Earth.Use the alternative universe - Canon divergent tag if its on ao3.
>>147185389>>147185418It's solid but it also set a dangerous precedent for the years of G1 wank franchise-wide we've had ever since.
>>147185458>Bumblebee>precedent for G1 wankG1 wank was already going at that point.Hell, you could argue G1 wank started post 1st-Bay movie.
>>147185389People really liked how the bots looked like bots and not the unintelligible shambling mounds of crap from all the previous movies.
>>147184916Here's some background info about that flying:- Sideswipe gives Optimus his jetpack, because Sideswide has a jetback he can give people. He has a detachable jetpack that's not part of his actual body because him and Sunstreaker had their body designs switched around during development. "Sideswipe"'s jetpack is actually supposed to be the engine kibble on Sunstreaker's back.- Wheeljack's flying is also based on his toy bio, which states he has rocket boosters in his arms- Tracks can fly because his toy has a flight mode. Like all of the early toyline, his toy design was repurposed from a pre-existing toyline that didn't have any rules about who should fly or not.Not mentioned but I say it anyways:- Gears has the ability to jump hella high thanks to the air jets in his feet.- Springer also has the ability to jump hella high, and is described in his toy bio with "Travels long distances with pogo-like motion". That's why he's called Springer.
>>147184622>>147184622Gender as a thing in Transformers was initially a mistake, because there was no need for it in a universe where the robots were created like machines. However, due to the ever evolving nature of the show since it went from a kids commercial to a pretty expansive universe with some very memorable characters, it makes sense to expand upon this considering all the voice actors and previous characters were presented as male to the audience. Yes, I know it's hip and cool to hate diversity here, but it's going to be a harder and harder sell to not have ANY of it in current and future media, plus entertainment has always largely had more success with left-leaning writing. Explaining WHY there are females can be done in a variety of ways, some better than others. Personally, I have always liked the idea that Cybertronians are not a purely mechanical race, but are somewhat biological as well, but advanced to the point of some of it being redundant (kind of how humans have some redundant parts of our own biology). It could be interesting if the ancient, early stages of Cybertronian life had sexual characteristics/dimorphisms because they used to mate, but either evolved away from it or the race was changed by scientific or magic-science at a later point where some aspects of said dimorphism remained, but now did not have any real function other than being a relic of the past.
>>147183017awful, this backstory of Megatron making friends with a human soldier should've been the main story. except the writers wanted a nice Megatron but couldn't actually write him turning good so they just hand wave it why he turned good as a backstory they don't have to explain
>>147185389I liked it. See the thing of it is that it doesn't just appeal to G1wank, it's also got that Spielburgian 80s nostalgia factor. Now, as someone born in the 80s (but grew up in the 90s) I'm weak to stuff like that, I'll admit. But I still think it's a solid movie. Better than the first bay movie or not, I guess it's up for interpretation. But part of the reason I really wanted to like it is that it felt like a step toward treating the cybertronians more as characters and less like caricatures.Wait, wait, hear me out. I know Bumblebee spent 95% of the movie mute, and I know the G1 characters were pretty one-dimensional too, but the cybertronian scene at the start actually put in the work to establish the conflict instead of just handwaving it in a single line later. Bumblebee was given time to connect with his human counterpart and the villains were properly scheming. You're not assaulted with dutch angles and lens flares and you can actually follow the dialogue. So is it the best movie? Probably not, but I definitely rank it higher than most of the other live action movies, and personally I hold it higher than the first but accept that there's room for personal preference there.That being said, I would be happy if we continued in the Transformers One direction. All I've ever wanted was for the bots to be treated like actual characters.
>>147185638supposedly Dot's VA said that they actually did go more into detail about that, i'm gonna assume that will be in the next batch of episodes since there's not much left in the show before we get Cyberworld taking over. but i agree, we really never got to see the truly evil Megatron before all this, so it feels like an incomplete story.
Never was into Transformers. I was a Gi joe kid. Should I try the comics?
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>>147185667Where's Prime?
>>147185667Thanks anon
>>147185648>i'm gonna assume that will be in the next batch of episodesAnon, there is no "next batch". The series is over.
>>147185677- It's a starter pack, not a comprehensive list.- Prime's quality falls off big time after the first season.
>>147185684they contracted 2 26 episode seasons. even though they split the second season up. there's at least one more batch to round out the series to 52 episodes. chances are it'll be be dropping between February or March since they usually release them every 5 months.
>>147185389Bumblebee isn't a Bay film at all, not just because he isn't the director, but also because the tone is completely different from his movies.But I dunno, I liked it, one can argue it's derivative of similar "boy/girl and their wacky robot/monster/alien/creature friend" stories, but I probably still like it more than all the Bay movies.
>>147185389>not just because he isn't the director, but also because the tone is completely different from his movies.It's also just straight-up not the same continuity. Bumbebee was a reboot.
>>147185850It's a soft reboot, some people like good ol' Lorenzo and the TF wiki will fight tooth and nail to assure you Bumblebee and ROTB are still connected to the Bayverse somehow.Having recently watched both of them, I really don't get how someone could watch them and still think they're connected, but whatever, that short time where they tried to pretend One was somehow also part of the Bayverse was kinda funny, Sentinel would've had one hell of a journey lmao
>>147185904im just glad they split One away from the rest, just makes managing the pages easier.
>>147185904>It's a soft rebootNo, it's not. That's not what a soft reboot is. Bumblebee is a hard reboot. Completely different continuity. Not connected to previous entries.Age of Extinction was a soft reboot. It's in the same continuity as previous entries and continues plot threads from them, but the main plot, visual design, and cast of characters have been majorly changed.
>>147185966For another example:Prime was a hard reboot from Animated.RID15 was a soft reboot from Prime.
Speaking of movies, I finally watched ROTB, it was alright, I definitely understand what people mean when they say it's like a Michael Bay movie without Michael Bay, they search for mcguffins, there's big bombastic robot fights, but the girl isn't sexualized and the characters are only mildly racist, it's missing that signature asshole Bay energy.Still, I thought it was fine, better than the worst Bay movies, but probably not better than my favorites, even if they've all kinda blended together in my mind lately, may need to rewatch at least the first one.I liked the bots having more personality, Arcee was cute, Noah was alright, and seeing the Maximals again was nice.Also, I have bias towards Peru cause I'm Peruvian, so there's that, you don't see many movies take place in Peru.That said, this probably could've been at least 2 separate movies, one about the Maximals, and one about Unicron, and "Wheeljack" definitely should've been an original character, and give him a Peruvian accent instead of a Mexican one, lean towards the Peru aesthetic, maybe have a Mototaxi alt mode, I wonder how that would look.
Good old Cybertron, land of the Mechawroo
I don't care what you guys think, I've never wanted to fuck Megatron more than in these comics in this artstyle.
>>147186141no surprise there, milne's artstyle has a unique stench to it that seems to only attract "got my sharter gaped before i hit 10" faggots
>>147184916Would have been fun if they did sell a red jetpack to stick in the big empty hole in Prime's back.
>>147185987RID is a sequel.
>>147186171Unfortunately I'm not a gay man.
>>147186141Is it purely due to his looks or does his characterization play into the attraction as well?
>>147186230What am I looking at what is this and no the characterization as well I've never been one to like anyone only by looks.
>>147186141handsome...
>>147186004>Mototaxi alt mode, I wonder how that would look.
>>147185620Nah, its because they were toys for boys, so the writers decided to make them asexual, despite being male coded.
>>147185604>Fraternal twins>Does not looks like each others, like at all.
>>147186591They're not identical twins. Fraternal twins are non-identical.
>>147186188what's your point? because you're not refuting anything i said.
>>147186591anon they share the same alt-mode
>>147186004>That said, this probably could've been at least 2 separate moviesThe original plan was to make a BB sequel and a Beast Wars film as individual projects, and somewhere down the line Paramount decided to merge both scripts
>>147186141you gonna stick it in his gun hole or what because i'm pretty sure it's that or the mouth
>>147187052According to them >>147186205 So I doubt any penetration will be occuring.
>>147187052no lube, no protection, all night, all day, from the kitchen floor to the toilet seat, from the dining table to the bedroom, from the bathroom sink to the shower, from the front porch to the balcony, vertically, horizontally, quadratic, exponential, logarithmic, while i gasp for air, scream and see the light, missionary, cowgirl, reverse cow girl, doggy, backwards, forwards, sideways, upside down, on the floor, in the bed, on the couch, on a chair, being carried against the wall, outside, in a train, on a plane, in the car, on a motorcycle, the bed of a truck, on a trampoline, in a bounce house, in the pool, bent over, in the basement, against the window, have the most toe curling, back arching, leg shaking, dick throbbing, fist clenching, ear ringing, mouth drooling, ass clenching, nose sniffling, eye watering, eye rolling, hip thrusting, earthquaking, sheet gripping, knuckles cracking, jaw dropping, hair pulling. teeth jitterbug, mind boggling, soul snatching, overstimulating, vile, sloppy, moan inducing, heart wrenching, spine tingling, back breaking, atrocious, gushy, creamy, beastly, lip bitting, gravity defying, nail biting, sweaty, feet kicking, mind blowing, body shivering, orgasmic, bone breaking, world ending, black hole creating, universe destroying, devious, scrumptious, amazing, delightful, delectable, unbelievable, body numbing, bark worthy, can't walk, head nodding, soul evaporating, volcano erupting, sweat rolling, voice cracking, trembling, sheets soaked, hair drenched, flabbergasting, lip locking, skin peeling, eyelash removing, eye widening, pussy popping, nail scratching, back cuts, spectacular, brain cell desolving, hair ripping, show stopping, magnificent, unique, extraordinary, splendid, phenomenal, mouth foaming, heavenly, awakening, devils tangos, he could put a nuclear bomb inside me and I'd still ride.
>>147187218Is that the same case for his Human form?
>>147183960Season three had the best and worse episodes of the whole series. It also had some of the most batshit insane ideas ever seen for the brand >two beast head robot>one head eats objects on the ground >other head vomit out the objects as high velocity projectiles holy shit, I get the joke now about all writers in media were doing blow in the 80s.
>>147187285For this one; no lube, no protection, all night all day from the kitchen floor to the dining table from the bed to church, from the front porch to the balcony, vertically, horizontally, quadratic exponential, logarithmic, while i gasp for air scream the lord's prayer, MEGATRON CAN TOP ME, until I'm swollen, until I'm crying, until he's out of juice, until I cant walk, until I'm numb, until my throat hurts, until my cheeks are red, until the neighbours know his name, until my insides becomes outsides, until my hole remember the shape, until my jaws fall off, until my leg is useless, until my eyes are rolled back and it stays there, until my body does a backflip, until my whole body shakes, until the skin peels off, until my bones disconnect, until i pass out, until im paralyzed for the rest of my life, until all my eggs are fertilized, until all my holes are filled, until i cant breathe, until it gets longer than before, until he couldn't stand, until i die, until my mouth cant eat, until i remember the length of it, until the end of time, until he dont have it anymore, until my hole remembers the size and girth, until it reaches my stomach, until hes grunting and growling, until the whole world hears. I'm gonna get impregnated ten times over breeding me all day all night no protection just me and him all over the house on the floor on the couch on the bed in the shower on the rooftops even god couldn't pull him out of me.
>>147187285I always imagined both him and Optimus in their late 30's
>>147187343Due to both behavior and lore given in the G1 cartoon I pictured Megs was a 50 something general and OP was a late 20s up and coming leader.
>>147187343I thought so too. But I wonder how long do Cybertronians live? We can see them still kicking after millions of years. Though we don't see any visible signs of aging. With only few characters appering to be wizend.
>>147187299Season three certainly had the best theme of them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IDvrVfkjtw&list=PLG-ol0jTdM19f88u1Xz2tFhjsYkSTvV0L&index=18
>>147187374My personal favorite was season 2. Too bad there was never an official clean version of the instrumentals released. https://youtu.be/oEMBuSj2fcU?si=6kaNWtpDMrsBOPbJ&t=111
>>147187374>>147187428It's strange that neither of them have had official releases, more so that the most recent drops had the season three background music as well but none of the openings and closing stuff of S2 or S3
>>147178507What exactly is this from and what is going on in this pic?
>>147187360they don't die of aging and yet some of them act like brats while others are grumpy old men
>>147187602Current Skybound comics. Megatron meets Starscream (He was called Ulchtar at the time) for the first time caught in the crossfire of an Autobot/Decepticon skirmish and his friends got killed
>>147185389it wasn't complete dogshit so it got ate up as god tiersame thing happened with one
>>147187354yeah optimus is notably younger ithan meg in the og series
I've never liked that the Autobot-Decepticon War lasted millions of years, it's so outrageously stretched out it feels weird that they even operate on the same perception of time as humans.
Oh, now I get it.
>>147174665Always loved Soundwave - he's consistently the fucking coolest in pretty much every piece of media he appears in
>>147187814how the hell does this fucker plans to use a straw without a mouth?
>>147187990Through an emergency induction port.
Didnt this guy just turn into like a christmas ornament?>>147187990He probably has a mouth under the faceplate.
>>147187789I like to think they learned how long and dragged out their war was when they crashed landed on earth. Being near-immortal machines their perception of time would probably be very skewed until they see the more fragile and short lived humans, giving them a new perspective of how long they've really been fighting
>>147174665I love the fact that he just doesn't wear is original armor.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z2oJCQ7h-A
>>147186250>What am I looking at what is thisMilne made at least 3 doujins
>>147188196Tell me everything you know.
>>147188241I just did
>>147184092Something like this?https://youtu.be/qD2ZUI7yCTw?si=ddk0ws71-Y56AE2-Same guy made this meme too: >>147183905https://x.com/The_Freddery/status/1592677338386690048?t=P80ajnbcsQLYIH03OM56kg&s=19
I went to Comiket in Japan for the first time and I gotta say it was rather wild seeing a doujin artist have a BL manga of G1 Orion Pax and Megatron.Also there was this sick Beast Wars cosplayer displaying his Dinobot costume and photobook of other Beast Wars cosplays he made
>>147188273I just looked this up and WHERE DO IGET THESE as a non american who can't go to cons
>>147184951I wonder some mechannicus would start to worship primus
>>147174619There's an entire fanmade thing /tg/ made specifically for this.https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Setting:Transformers_40k
>>147188341you can't, people like you that do live under circumstances that allow them to buy these are too pussywhipped to scan them and the dude making them can't exactly sell them in sites without getting anally raped by hasbro suits the same way the average IDW consoomer would probably liked to get gaped
>>147174619Imagine if some mekboyz accidentally get ahold of some protoforms without even knowing>>147188376That would cause another civil war, especially when what the mechanicus thinks is the machine god is actually the biggest fragment of the void dragon the emeperor trapped within mars
>>147182682Tried to read it a few weeks ago but dropped it. While i can agree its depiction of Cybertron is great the Self Insert just got way too flagrant and i can usually tolerate self inserting. Some other things like transformer sex was just too much for me.
>>147186230Hot Motor Oil, basically Milne’s softcore porno collection.It’s good.
>>147187990>>147188018>>147188023
First watch and halfway through season 1 so I have some comments.Do they ever address how some transformers can change size at will or is it just this show?It's also funny how vehicle forms are supposed to be disguises yet they move around humans in robot form so nonchalantly. What's with the seekers? Three of them reach Earth but sometimes two or three different ones show up too.What's the point of Starscream? Why does Megatron keep around a useless soldier that is a coward, a dumbass and is always openly plotting to kill him?>>147174665He's a lil bitch and somehow my favorite >>147174849Tank makes sense the most>>147175266Dinosaur robots are always cool no matter what. Also kinda fucked up how the autobots create a bunch of retarded slaves they keep in a closet when not in use.
>>147189497>Do they ever address how some transformers can change size at will or is it just this show?That's a "just accept it" thing. Later material would identify it as "mass shifting".>It's also funny how vehicle forms are supposed to be disguises yet they move around humans in robot form so nonchalantly.Transformers actually using their alt-modes to maintain a disguise long-term is actually extremely rare in the franchise. Both the original cartoon and comics dropped that concept almost immediately, despite the cartoon's theme song stating it.>What's with the seekers? Three of them reach Earth but sometimes two or three different ones show up too.The first year of toys had the Autobots outnumbering the Decepticons by a wide margin, so the show added generic recolored soldiers to fill out the ranks. Some of these would be retroactively given names by later media. Some actual named new seeker characters (because they have toys) will show up later, like some other characters they just appear in the cast with no explanation.>What's the point of Starscream? Why does Megatron keep around a useless soldier that is a coward, a dumbass and is always openly plotting to kill him?No given in-universe reason in the original series. In real life it's because it's funny and an interesting character dynamic. Later media would explain, for their own versions of the characters, is at A) a Decepticon leader should always be strong and watch their back, and B) if they fail to do so, an idiot like Starscream will take over and ruin everything
>>147176754>First two movies make it a point to have Megatron be the only deception to keep his cybertronian alt mode >He doesn't disguise like everyone else, he's prideful enough to show off to everyone >Loses twice and gravely injured >Third movie, autobots are on the offensive and deceptions have to lie low >Megatron forced to take the form of a rusty African oil rig, wears a cloak of shame
>>147189725I was thinking of that the other day, it was good subtle writing
>>147174849Megatron should be a triple changer. Tank works best for his own personal vehicle form, but there's a lot of subtext to be squeezed out of the gun form. I just really like the idea of Megatron being the evil leader of the faction full of backstabbing idiots, but getting the strongest and most concentrated firepower out of himself means getting them to actually cooperate with him.
>>147183017Season 1 is somewhat goodSeason 2a is bad if not atrocious I refuse to acknowledge season 2b's existence
>>147174575D-16 was such a bro for the first hour and half, damn he got done dirty turning into Megatron with no fanfare. As far as reboots go it's not the craziest thing, though I think his edgelord stuff is a lot more believable if he was still a cool robot gladiator
>>147184295Yeah, actually, near the end of the idw comics. but... they were just all the maximals we know but evil and fucked up now. idw had a lot of misfires (not that one) with how it handled non g1 characters>>147185692I'd still recommend it, personally. Seasons 1 and 2 are great, but I agree season 3 is where it loses steam. The wrap up movie was good, though.>>147187814man, MTMTE started so good, but everything about the series crumbled after a while, not helped by Roberts drinking the kool aid pretty fucking hard.
>>147174849I like Galvatron's stationary cannon mode and U think it would fit even to original Megatron. Just make other bots be able to carry him of needed. But to be fair that sounds like Megatron is some kind of target master.
>>147188295I guess? I just found it funny that when they're not busy fighting each other, Autobots just watch TV on Teletraan 1 and Decepticons vandalizing mountains.
Yup that's cringe
>>147190438I always hated that Transmutate's true form is a TFP Arcee recolor. TFP and BW aeshetics are too distinct so she sticks out like a sore thumb
>>147189497>>147189623Yeah been watching g1 as well and was surprised to see that transformers are common human knowledge by the end of the 3 parter intro
>>147189931his switch to bad guy personality wasn't done all too well in one imohe changes a lot from the cave scene to the one where he gets the map from orion, goes from frustrated to might makes right real quick
>>147189170No wonder he needs a straw
>>147190521anon, it's a different universe. TM's form here doesn't affect her potential "true form" in Beast Wars. that's not how that works.
>>147190897If anything I always thought she looked like she should turn into some kind of fish.
>>147190614>goes from frustrated to might makes right real quickone of the FIRST things we learn about D-16 is that he idolizes Megatronus, "the strongest Prime". In the cave he is given a huge size and strength boost, and an altmode that is a just a gigantic mobile weapon. It's not a stretch that this would feed into his views on power.
>>147190935I mean just thinking something is cool cause it's strong doesn't mean you think rule by violence is coolit's not like megatronus was some power hungry maniac as far as we knowin any case the jump from his angry outburst in the cave to his behavior afterwards really could have used something inbetween that
>>147190935To be fair, we don't quite know how late T-cog upgrading works. It's possible that D-16 WANTED to become something powerful, so his body became tank-like once he got Onyx's cog and it sensed his desire for a powerful body and alt mode.>>147190614He was clearly feeling emboldened now that he had some power and decided he was going to lead. That only became more evident when he met Starscream. A lot of people seem to gloss the fact that Screamer says "It's one bot over another". While we don't see D-16 nodding when it's said, it's clear he didn't disagree with that sentiment.
>>147190935>>147191053Not to mention D was more than happy being a part of the system and idolizing SentinelWhen the rug got pulled out he had much farther to fall than Orion did
>>147190920speaking of Prime-derived aquatic beast modes for Beast Wars characters that didn't have them originally:in the Japanese dub of Beast Wars, the Predacon computer was sentient. In a later comic, she's given a body by Tarantulas and it's a shark. It's really just Prime Airachnid's Legends-class toy in new colors, and fins inserted into the 3mm pegholes where her removable rotor and guns usually plug into. Handily, Lego fin pieces fit almost perfectly into those holes.
>>147190521That's kinda why the Prime Arcee mold was chosen; it has no nose so it looks like Transmutate. It's a small bit of the aesthetics meshing
>>147191218it was chosen because:- girl- available mold- sorta spindly appearance- weapons can be stored asymetically to emulate the original's haphazard body
>>147177216I like the axe more, makes Optimus look more like a lumberjack
Now that I've watched G1, Beast Wars, Animated, Prime, and all the movies, what should I watch next?I already have something in mind myself, but I'm curious if anyone has a better suggestion.
>>147191462watch the Unicron Trilogy
>>147191462I like Beast Machines. I know it's controversial, but I saw it before Beast Wars so I had no issues with the character personality changes at the time.
>>147191462cyberverse
>>147191462Time to discover Japanese series. Masterforce and Victory were quite good, RiD is fun but I always felt it was very one-sided show, autobots just outnumbers predacons in the first half of the series.
>>147191519Even if you put that aside characters there were really ugly and unappealing. Story-wise it wasn't that bad.
>>147176072>Tzeentchian StarscreamSo based. Starscream is also a very 40k name.Actually when you think about it, Tzeentch would love Cybertronians in general. Changing is their whole thing. Of course, this requires that sparks have a presence in the Warp like a soul.
>>147182426Its not DWJ's Transformers, but Kirkman's Void Rivals which is basically a reboot of Transformers season 3 and maybe headmasters.
>>147188498im going to kill myself and hasbro i need these books TODAY, also I'm usually fine to pirate but I actually wanna own these and since it's a small time creator I understand not wanting to upload their shit for free. Anyway, I'm gonna see what I can do to get my hands on these, I have some money.
>>147190920and then Hasbro decided to make her a fossilizer lmao.
>>147190920>>147192953Talk about wanting to bury your dead.
Are they....?
Why is he a baby
>>147185036>Boom, fembots now exist from the getgo without messy, convoluted bullshit.So, like most media they appear in?
Why does he makes such a big deal about honor when historically his faction always used underhanded tactics? He acts like somehow the decepticon ideology got corrupted when in reality they were always backstabbing douchebags
>>147193375Very one-sided from Skids side.
What the fuck is going on
>>147194365Christ, what Roberts did to Getaway was retarded. even more retarded that he goes out of his way to say some shit like "erm actually he's the only conservative in the comic">>147193594it was around this point that he really felt like he was writing bootleg dr who episodes. and dr who is already pretty bottom of the barrel.
>>147174872G1 by season 3 everyone was flying. Nothing like that mattered any longer.
Shameless plug, but this series was amazing for the time. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeHsH-2yD19rQdY9noxG01fFaqCwpmekq&si=fQBhtKy3j9elpuQq
>>147193767I mean, you can have a sense of honor even if your faction isn't entirely honorable. Dreadwing had a code, though it was mostly about wanting to honor his brother Skyquake who got killed by Starscream's incompetence. Of course that wound up biting him in the ass when he realized he couldn't exact revenge, on top of other issues he began to see with the Cons
>>147194891Skybound Astrotrain is working with some kind of honor code too
He gonna be taking it up the ass any moment now. I don't mind.
>>147195463Forgot my image.
>>147193767>He acts like somehow the decepticon ideology got corrupted when in reality they were always backstabbing douchebagsit's a noisy mess in the G1 cartoon. Shockwave, Soundwave, Cyclonus, the G1 Predacons. All those guys had loyalty and something of honor codes, you then had your Starscreams, Insections, Stunticons which hit you backstabbing douchebagsfinally you had bots like Scourge, and Octane who seem to have some sort of honor code that would rub up against the authority.
>>147193594When we first see Tailgate's human decoy it was before the plot twist that he's actually Tailpipe, a just coming online bot with no history, this was done as foreshadowing that he was lying about his years of being a bomb tech expert. That has always been Robert's failings is he get these ideas that seem good for 1 story/arc but forgets that it's going to effect the whole series onward.
I don't understand what's going on right now.
>>147195768Short of it? Bar could work like a looking glass into the past
>>147194587The idea for Getaway was decent if he could have not made it a caricature of people he didn't like. A Starscream like Autobot had merit, the clown just couldn't stay in that lane and wanted his browine points from the now gone tumbler crowd.
>>147193594Holoforms aren’t supposed to be literal representations of their human selves they’re more like randomly generated avatars that can end up with some funny results. Like whirl ending up as some 12 yr old girl.
>>147196183that's not quit right, they have to force the change to be altered and it has to be done every time otherwise no one would have given grief to Ultra Magnus when he had his changed
The homos are here! I actually kinda like Drift, unsurprisingly. I hope you guys are enjoying the live blogposting, by the way. I have managed to avoid most spoilers for all these years so I am reading it all almost entirely blind.>>147195737I see. I have been following the TF Wiki reading order which I suppose I mistakenly understood as being chronological in publication order. https://tfwiki.net/wiki/2005_IDW_continuity>>147195777I, alright. I mean that's kinda cool.
>>147196325iirc both events occurred in Homesick Blues which was issue 13 your screenshot was much later, I imagine you just glossed over baby Talegate which is understandable for how much was going on in those few panels.
>>147196325Always hated Drift/Ratchet keep that cougar hunter away from my gilf
>>147195696That's why things were easier when the Decepticons were just the military purpose built bots. They could have all ranges of emotion but were all the same technology design.
If someone hurt my cat I'd also go sicko mode.
>>147195820Yeah, that sums up a lot of it. The idea too that he was, obviously, pretty upset about their version of hitler being allowed onboard and let free is also interesting, but Roberts cannot write villains beyond "evil bad bad evil disagrees with me"
>>147196524Still doesn't work when you have guys like warpath on the Autobots side and Octane on the Decepticons.
>>147196630>this arc ends with megatron just walking in and pressing his "i win" button"the more I see of this old series the more I remember how much I hate it, fuck. Everything about the DJD is so fucking all over the place and awful too. Roberts fucked up the Roller reveal and made him Glitch, and his name is dropped with no fucking fanfare, Tarn is shown to have some guilt, that's... never utilized in any meaningful way, he's supposed to actually have a close bond with his crew... except for when he kills one of them for being slightly inconvenient/weak. God, it sucks so much ass
>>147196720It reads like Roberts ran out of gas, like he had no clear idea what he wanted to do with anything and he knew the book was coming to a close so he had to force everything to happen. I'd be more sympathetic if it wasn't for the fact he had Eight(8) years to get this all figured out. Tarn and the DJD had been a thing that whole time, Good guy Megs was three years prior to this last arc. There is zero reason things should have gone this stupid.
RIP Ravage.>>147196776>>147196720I dunno, maybe it's cuz I've been reading all of this 2005 run within two weeks, but I'm still more entertained reading this than most of the stuff leading up to it. The stuff that has bothered me the most gas mostly been outdated pop culture references.
>>147196683thats why Overlord and Tarn were the best villains, they didn't really fall into that cateogory.
>>147196908>I dunno, maybe it's cuz I've been reading all of this 2005 run within two weeksit's likely exactly that because your consumption rate is so high you are not really absorbing anything about the story and/or cast. That's not a critic or to say you shouldn't but I've noticed a lot of people that speed read this series and some others have these reflection moments on it later and seeing all the cracks, alternatively your brain dumps it out and moves on which is fine also.
>>147197024Tarn does fall prey to that in the last arc. Overlord also got somewhat fucked in that way when he went gay for Spiders.
>>147196720tarn killing one of his own all because overlord bullied him will never not be funny
>>147196524>>147196707im not a fan of Autobots and Decepticons actually being built differently, i like the ideology choice more than anything. i don't like pidgeonholding things just cause.
MTMTE was good until Pharma died. I miss him every day bro.
>>147197036That's definitely a part of it, but I am also reading these a fair while after they were made, so my way of thinking isn't the same as what the majority of people thought when they were made. Err, zeitgeist? I forget if that's the right term. I won't say the last arc of MTME was perfect, but still enjoyable for me.This, however, I'm really not sure how to feel about.
>>147174646Yeah but at least he got the most beautiful romantic arc of all time in Transformers with UM! Meanwhile that thread we had where Cobra Commander came up lied to me big time. By the second season everyone turns on him, even his own personal guard, and he gets replaced by a genetic abomination of a retard who constantly hovers around on his snake-themed Scooty Puff Jr while shouting, "THIS. I COMMAND!" every time someone asks him if he wants pickles on his burger for the food run Major Blud is constantly on. He only survives Serpentor's debut by convincing him he needs a whipping boy to blame all his own failures on. I'm still waiting for him to turn to the camera and say, "I get no ressspect, no ressspect at all!"In all I'm more amazed that Megatron can order retreats so often while maintaining his villain cred.
>>147196429I am very confused with some of the choices of pairings in these stories. The original characters are fine, whatever there. I get why this iteration of Cyclonus gets attached to Tailgate, but why did they have to make him look like,...that. RIP Skids, he shoulda been able to hit. I feel like maybe he wanted to do Drift and Rodimus, but was told no because I imagine hasbro wants to keep most of the OG/big name cast out of the way of ship nonsense, but... Ratchet...?
>>147188018
>>147197327why does this feel like Linda Belcher in a costume?
>>147197085Think about it like this, there's a reason that most right wingers are either white or upper class, while the lower class and non whites are left leaning.
>>147197271fujobrain rotted away at him after so much time on tumblr>>147197059>>147197024Tarn was a good antagonist up until the end. But he really feels like the only decent villain that Roberts can write.>>147196908>outdated pop culturedon't remind me that he put the word "mansplaining" into a fucking transformers comic>>147196776truthfully I think he bought into his own hype a bit much and became super intolerable by the end
>>147197271Yea Drift/Rodimus was very much implied at some point and honestly made more sense.
>>147197220Personally I liked the Windblade comic. I liked the political intrigue, I liked the art style, and Windblade felt like a decent enough protagonist trying to do the right thing but missing important details and fucking up, and her rivalry with Starscream was fun.I do dislike how they did Chromia dirty, but they sweep that under the floor soon enough anyway.
This is the best Ironhide design
>>147197871I love her so much, wish she would finally show up in a more mainstream project
>>147198429her voice was the only thing that made by sit through the first season of cyberverse
>>147174849Tank with hover capability akin to Back to the Future. It works twofold by giving him a powerful and bulky alt mode while also keeping consistent with his G1 ability to fly without needing a jet alt mode.
>>147198153The feet are ridiculous.
GIWTWM
>>147198796Shift the hover-treads onto the back when in humanoid form to have repulsor-like wings? I could dig that.
>>147198153I'm fond of this scrapped one for Prime they scrapped before they swapped him out with Bulkhead
>>147199406I wonder why Bulkhead took place of Ironhide in the following animated series after the first Bayverse Transformers movie?
>>147199406according to aaron archer this was an evergreen design they were doing for an rpg for the chinese market or something like that. same deal with the prime rumble and frenzy cars.
>>147198706She's the only reason I'm gonna watch Cyberverse after I finish Animated, G1, and Beast Wars. She too cute.
>>147199406Got to admit the big arm cannons make him look like he's got Megatron envy. I don't hate his film version, he's one of the better parts of the films, but I do like when he emphasizes sheer toughness from his name.
>>147199997I wish she was cuter in other media. It's weird that the comics are the place she looks best. They really tend to make her look like a ventriloquist dummy elsewhere.
>>147200066I love how expressive she is in her solo run, she's adorable. I usually kinda loathe most of what IDW did but I forced myself to read a lot of it with precious little context just because I loved her there.If possible, I'd love for her and Starscream's dynamic to carry over to something else.
>>147200124I adamantly do not ship them but I DO enjoy their bickering and power play. They really did have a good back-and-forth. I suppose it was helped by the unique position Starscream was in at that point in the comics. He'd managed to land the actually somewhat-legitimate position of leader of cybertron, and yet he still couldn't help himself from scheming and manipulating, even when ostensibly trying to work in the best interest of Cybertron. He'd finally gotten exactly what he wanted and he still couldn't help being a sneaky little bitch about every damn thing. And Windblade, being an optimist but also rightly suspicious of Cybertronians, especially Starscream, has to try to maneuver all that intrigue without losing herself. I don't think it was very popular at the time but it really drew me in.Plus, wazzzzpinator redemption arc, cmon. I'm a sucker for that shit.
>>147200179
>>147199565Because of Dark of the Moon. Hasbro didn't want kids to get confused that Ironhide died in the movie but was fine on TV. Never mind the fact that Prime Ironhide was going to be much more G1ish, so yeah, I call BS, Hasbro
>>147200323anon, the series they're talking about started and ended before DOTM even released.
>>147200179What if I also enjoy their bickering and power play and adamantly DO ship them for all your reasons and moreWhat then?
>>147200678I don't hold any personal enmity toward you because I acknowledge there's ample material there. It's just not my preferred pair. And I acknowledge fully that mine stood less of a chance anyway.
>>147200717
Post sexy Sentinel.
>>147201145Only if his wife can come along too
>>147201181Perfect
didn't know HP Lovecraft was that popular with decepticons
>>147201145
>>147174575>every single TF thread that is a general to make other TF threads impossible to have is an IDW or TFONE prompt You nu-fans make me so sick
>>147201332You know nobody is stopping you from just talking about whatever you wanted to relating to the franchise here right
>>147201332do a flip faggot, post those 3 images you love to regurgitate again why don't you
>>147201332The prompt was to talk about robots brother
I just learned about the existence of G2 series which is essentially G1 re-airing, that CG intermission is horrible.
>>147198153Some fo them just work better than their standard designs.Like, movie Sideswipe looks more like a "Sideswipe" to me than any of his other incarnations. Whoever gave him arm blades and wheels for feet was a genius.
>>147201391G2 the show was w/e it was just reruns but I was happy to see it, G2 the toyline was based and underrated. TF as a franchise needs to return to toy favoritism over show favoritism. So many characters, so little done because "MUH BUMBLEBEE"
I wish the BW cartoon had kept the removable mask gimmick that the toys had. Was that too expensive for Mainframe at that time?
>>147201361Why would I ever wanna talk about dem LOUSY, STINKIN' MACHINES!?
>>147184000thats the thing anon, why would a being that doesnt have a gender be capable of transition it? trans people need biological genders to be called "trans"
>>147183724Still, sounds cool. Getting a whole timeline set up of your own AU is respectable shit.Mine's kind of spiraled into a whole thing where I have an idea in my head of a post-War story where Optimus retired in disgrace after the final battle against Megatron cost the life of Spike Witwicky, as well as destroying Vector Sigma. Then centuries later he gets called back into action by Rodimus to help him fight against both the newly-evolved Predacons on Earth, and the Autobot Council attempting to spark a war with the now-spacefaring humanity. Inspired at least in some small part by my desire to have at least one story out there where Rodimus Prime is Him and not just caught in Optimus's shadow.
>>147174575Something I did though after getting Vol 2 of SkyboundSkybound Transformers by Seth Rogen (Based on issues 6-12)Peter Cullen - Optimus PrimeSeth Rogen - CliffjumperGrey DeLisle - ArceeJ.K. Simmons - RatchetDiedrich Bader - Wheeljack, RavageHannibal Buress - JazzKevin Michael Richardson - JetfireJohn DiMaggio - Soundwave, DevastatorMark Hamill - StarscreamChris Diamantopoulos - ThundercrackerCissy Jones - Elita-1Michael Ironside - Ultra MagnusWill Forte - BeachcomberDana Snyder - Astrotrain, ReflectorGiancarlo Esposito - ShockwaveJeff Bergman - HufferJonathan Banks - KupDerek Phillips - OnslaughtBob Odenkirk - SwindleJess Harnell - Blast OffMaurice LaMarche - Brawl, BruticusFred Tatasciore - Sparky, Vortex Pete Davidson - SpikeJamila Velasquez - Carly
>>147189931il be honest, the animatics made D-16 more interesting by making him a jock that leaves the thinking to more smarter people. his hatred of sentinel could be explained as him realizing that everyone, even orion, takes advantage of his simple thinking and decides to choose the philosophy that the high guard gave him: might makes right.
>>147201356I will, faggot. I'm not a fan of minorities or gays, you are, you infiltrated a white straight fanbase, go away.>>147201525Most likely....Primal and Megs were supposed to be tripple changers originally, that show had a lot of lofty ideas left on the cutting room floor.
I want Skywarp's job!
>>147201888being wired into a computer?
>>147201824
>>147201976>cringe mcu dialogue
>>147201976>anon immediately exposes himself as a faggotThe surprises never cease.
>>147201976anon if you're gonna give a tryhard the satisfaction of getting your attention the least you could do is do it in a less faggoty way
>>147201426How the toys in G2? I just know its the first one to do Tank megatron.
>>147197085But it does work in G1? Beside, we saw that big specimen swinging from 'con to 'bot on screen.
>>147202372Some of the new molds from the time held up very well. About the first two years were mostly G1 redecoes, with a few new molds designed for Euopean G1, so they aren't very articulated. By the last two years, you get the Laser Rods, Cyberjets, Laser Optimus, and the Combat heroes that are among the first "modern" TFs with consistent articulation beyond the arms and incidental transformation bits.The Tank Megatron was unfortunately an early release in the line designed entirely by Hasbro that's not very good, but the smaller,Combat Hero Megatron holds up well.
>>147191507>>147191519>>147191584New watchlist is this:>Beast Machines (already halfway through Season 1)>Robots in Disguise 2001>Unicron Trilogy>Robots in Disguise 2015>CyberverseI already knew I was gonna watch Beast Machines, some elements from it like the Technorganics and the Vehicons were reused in series like Animated and Prime, so I was curious about how they were in their original series.Also, BM is technically the end of the original G1 continuity, at least as the West is concerned.Also also, I had pic related as a kid with no context of what BM was, so it's kinda cool to see it animated, too bad they decided Rattrap isn't allowed to fight now.>>147191590I'll dip my toes into the Japanese-exclusive stuff later since that's apparently its whole different beast (machine), there's apparently some comically bad dubs for those series, but I'll probably just watch them subbed.
>>147202479>comically bad dubsMore like comically KINO dubshttps://youtu.be/gqhupfZlT1o
>>147197327Tali best girl
>It's over Prime, I have the high ground!
>>147174663After what he did in TF One with it?Energy axe
>>147174912Because it's a cool toy
>>147182271She found Zerta?
>>147183017Completely wasted post war premise with some cool designs
>>147201280>didn't know HP Lovecraft was that popular with decepticons>People of earth
>>147197389I hope I don't come off as too condescending or anything, but so far I don't really see why IDW's run is hated so much so far. I didn't care that much for Windblade because I don't know how I feel about introducing a new female robot and having her be pitted against Starscream immediately and the framing from the artist felt a bit shippy. It might be a good ship, but if I am gonna indulge in shipfaggotry I need a bit more build up. Now I just finished Windblade in the reading order so I still have a fair bit of phase 2 to go through, but I looked ahead and saw this. I really, really, really do not care about G.I Joe or Micronauts or any of these other hasbro IPs, are there any of these I can safely skip?
>>147201824>Most likely....Primal and Megs were supposed to be tripple changers originally, that show had a lot of lofty ideas left on the cutting room floor.i think about how they never did an Apeface and Snapdragon retool as Primal and Megatron.
Rodimus should have a bodyswap gimmick so that fans of both his Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime form can be happy.
>>147203173>Rodimus should have a bodyswap gimmick so that fans of both his Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime form can be happy.it's been done, look up his Power of The Primes figure
You got me at robots. How big though?
Time to continue this.
Is there any reason why everyone in Cyberverse already had their Earth vehicle modes before going to Earth other than budget restrictions? Like why the fuck Optimus needed windshield wipers
>>147203252I was thinking something more simpler, like him having two bodies, one mind and he can switch back and forth.
>>147204303weather does exist on cybertron sometimes.
hey can i post something really out of pocket and horny
>>147204803purely because you asked this stupid and annoying question first: fuck off, shut the fuck up
>>147204803>>147204978 is right, but if you are still so autistically inclined then just post it in the /aco/ thread.
>>147204989you misunderstand. i don't give a shit if they had posted something out of pocket and horny here. who gives a fuck.i give a shit that they decided to frame it in the most fuckass pisspants baby way possible instead just posting the damn post. as such, they need to fuck off
>>147174619My idea for this would be more involved on the "robots in disguise" side of things. Very few factions would be willing to cooperate, so self preaervation and subterfuge would be key. I think the Orks and Junkions would play extremely well together, and the Autobots and Tau may find some common ground. Decepticons would probably hide among the imperium. I like the idea of Unicron contracting a Tyrranid infestation on his surface, bringing the 'Nids everywhere he goes. Maybe add Terrorcons into the mix as an invasion force before planetary annihilation?
>>147204803Do it
>>147185169Well, they PLANNED to do that in S3 of TFA, and RID2001 Megs had a patently ridiculous 10 altmodes. It has to depend on the lore of Triple Changers for the series imo.
>>147204331>>147203173Like a He-Man
Post your starting cast for a hypothetical transformers series.
>>147204978>>147204989>>147205042the thing i wanted to post was roboat penor
>>147205545my series concept, my issue is there's too many character i wanna use and i wanna create new ocs for it as well. Autobots - Optimus Prime, Hot Rod, Ironhide, Bumblebee, Arcee, Wheeljack, Beachcomber Decepticons - Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave (and his cassettes), Thunderblast, Quake, Cyclonusbut like for new ocs i have Autobot Rivet, a young paramedic who turns into a fast response emergency suv. and the Decepticons have Phaeton, a slick junkion rockabilly type that turns into a rat rod, he starts off as a Autobot but defects to the Decepticon and Incinerator a giant walking plague hazard that turns into one of the fire locusts from Jurassic World Dominion.
>>147205794you just don't learn, do youyou truly are moronic
>>147205834oh and Steamhammer, an old prospector like metallurgist who turns into a steam locomotive, he's been on earth since the Gold Rush.
>>147205794Then don't post it on a blue board, faggotWhat the hell were you expecting, a medal?
>>147205844>>147205859no you dont understand i already made the post
>>147205863jesus christ, shut the fuck up until you learn some goddamn self-reflection
>>147205917penor
>>147201742Seth Rogen unironically would make a great Cliffjumper.
>>147205834>Phaeton, a slick junkion rockabilly type that turns into a rat rod, he starts off as a Autobot but defects to the DecepticonsThat's pretty sweet bro. Have any art of him?
>>147188800True.While the sex thing gets dropped after two or three mentions, she remains quite self critical.
>mfw anon from last thread wasn't fucking with me, Arcee really isn't a Headmaster in Headmasters On a more serious note, I don't really understand the poor reputation the show has, I'm five or six episodes in and so far it seems to be roughly the same level of quality as the rest of G1. That being said I am actually bummed out that Spike, Daniel, and Arcee were all regulated to non-combat roles.
>>147206446I would never lie to you
>>147206561Forgive me, i'll never doubt you again.
>man hasnt posted anything since septemberIf he's dead I will never get my hands on these, I might as well kill myself.
>>147205545Premise: 200 years post-Great War, which ended with the death of Megatron, the destruction of Vector Sigma, the death of Spike Witwicky and Optimus resigning in disgrace, naming the inexperienced and ill-prepared Hot Rod the new bearer of the Matrix. In the present Cybertron is in crisis as the new ruling Autobot Council is dealing with the uprising of a new species of Transformer called Predacons on Earth, which humanity (now a spacefaring civilization) demands the Autobots handle. The Council is gearing up for war with humanity, seeing them as a threat to their rule, forcing Rodimus Prime to resort to the ace up his sleeve: coaxing Optimus out of retirement and sending him to Earth with a new team of recruits, to covertly help humanity defeat the Predacons and prevent the looming war, while Rodimus himself investigates the Council and learns the depths of their corruption.Team Optimus: Optimus (no longer goes by Prime), Windblade, Jetstorm, Rachet, Rhinox (a Cybertron-born subspecies of Predacon dubbed a Maximal, though Rodimus suspects there is something sinister to their origins), Hot Shot, and an OC named Remus Pax, a failed journalist whose alternate mode is a camera and recording equipment. Unbeknownst to anyone, including himself, is the reincarnation of Megatron's spark.The Predacons:Predaking, Tarantulas, Guiledart, Terrorsaur, Dreadwing, Overbite, Snarl, Skylynx Tarantulas is not a Predacon at all, but rather Shockwave in disguise; the secret origin of Predacons is that they are his own creation, birthed from his experiments on the vivisected spark of StarscreamTeam Rodimus:Rodimus Prime, Ironhide, Elita One, Escargon, Star Saber, Soundwave, Onslaught, NightbeatAutobot Council:The Mistress of Flame, Big Bang, Sentinel, Sureshot, and their vicious enforcer, an OC named Romulus whose spark has been fused with and damaged by the suppressed soul of Spike Witwicky.
do you think G1 Skylynx should have a proper humanoid robot mode or remain unique as he is?
>>147205545Star Saber MoonracerSixshotThe Fallen and a million B and C lister Bots/Cons scattered throughout space
>>147207094on one hand i want different versions of the same character but Sky Lynx is just one of the most unique Transformers to ever be designed (and yes i know it was one of the molds they bought from another company)
>>147205545EjectSteeljawBroadsideSkullitronSteelbaneOrange Sentinel Prime as their boss that can't stand any of themno, I will not elaborate, they have fun and go on a big adventure
>>147207094Why does he scare me
>>147207749too much swag to handlehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKZNIv4vrBY
>>147207240only recently I realized that the reason why Shockwave has such a unique head is because he was also not a takara toy
>>147207761No, it's his headI've seen too many cursed DeviantArt anthro planes to untangle their appearanche from him
>>147206762There's no second hand way to get them, not even a digital copy? Also, don't say such things.
>>147208290>Peavis and Buckethead
>>147206446>>147206561Japan just didn't?
>>147179679Triple Changer Megs Vs Super Mode Prime
>>147208288lucky for you he is a space shuttle, not a plane
>>147208479This cannot be
What beastwars episode am I rewatchign today
>>147185850>>147185966Lmao. You remind me of those goofy niggers who thought X-Men Origins and First Class were reboots before Days of Future Past came out.https://x.com/rassouledji/status/1857438415303639337
>>147210640Your least favorite one
>>147210640The Probe
>>147205545i know its retarded to dont talk about western things in the comic board, but i really like the concept of a G1 reimagination but with anime girls that wear clothes based on their vehicle form. its optional partsforming because the clothes turn into armors that becomes the vehicle mode. i like the idea of recontextualising G1 as just big sister optimus taking the autobots to a trip on earth, only to bump into megatron and creating a petty "war" on earth while trying to get fuel to go back home.
>>147207094If Trypticon can be a giant robot dino, I don’t see why Sky Lynx couldn’t either
>>147210718man what a shitshow the bayverse is
>>147205545Lower stake episode with limited characters consist ofFrequent: Screamer, Skywarp, Thundercracker, the coneheads, Blitzwing and AstrotrainCameo or limited appearance:Megatron, Soundwave, Shockwave, all Autobots It's set in G1 universe and mainly about what they did when not shooting the Autobots.
>>147211816
Is there a place for (non-fujo) fanfic in a modern transformers fandom?
>>147212172no, just the very rare outliers like shattered balance
