The studio that was making an AI generated Winnie the Pooh series finally dropped a trailer for ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlAwrVbUh5w
>>147275726looks awful as usual
>>147275726Looks great.In b4 artcucks complain. You lost another job. Enjoy the soup kitchen.
the song lyrics are 100% AI-generated
>>147275782Have fun when we're all useless eaters and the kikes put us in the slaughterhouses.
>>147275805>but-but- technology will kill us this time!You lost again Boomer. Go back to the nursing home.
>>147275782good morning saar
>>147275844good morning wagie.
>>147275850Of course an Indian grifter would look down on people that work an honest wage for a living.
>>147276315If you can be replaced by a machine then it was never a real job. Or do you think Candlemakers should been employed forever?
>>147276371Candle making is still a job you dumb nig
>>147276415>Candle making is still a job you dumb nigMore lightbulbs are being made than candles doofus.
Is it "admitting defeat" for me to say I think they're lying about it being AI?The assets and music definitely are but I have yet to see AI do animation that actually looks mostly correct. If it is generated I'm curious to know how the only time I've seen it looking this good is in a shitty sweatshop Pooh cartoon.
>>147276468The animation is definitely not AI, I don't know where this clickbait shit is coming from. It just looks like your usual content farm slop.
>>147276441That doesn't mean candle making is an extinct jobYou are so fucking retarded kys
>>147276498>the only thing here that actually looks any good isn't AITechcucks lose again, lmao
>>147276498https://deadline.com/2024/06/winnie-the-pooh-kartoon-studios-amazon-prime-video-series-films-1235979993/>Capitalizing on the enormous equity inherent in A.A. Milne’s Winnie-The-Pooh, the unique designs and storytelling, as well as the production efficiency by harnessing AI, Kartoon Studios’ new iteration of the timeless brand will have an exceptional array of attributes that we believe can lead to extraordinary profitability for the company,
>>147276498>The animation is definitely not AI, Lol, another artfag in denial. Ai has made leaps and bounds in this space, it can do cartoons now. >That doesn't mean candle making is an extinct job You are so fucking retarded kysJust because some people hand craft chairs, doesn't mean it's a viable business. Most people prefer to buy it from Ikea or Walmart.
>>147276543That just sounds like clickbait to me to get attention on what is otherwise your run of the mill content farm slop.
>>147276521Was directed at you btw.
>>147276572It's the CEO saying that, and the pic posted is full of problem. Look at that "character" on the bottom left.
>>147276568>Literally just a kid walking>floaty-ass physics, blank expression, AI shit lighting>this is on the same level of animation showcased in the trailer, according to a dipshit techbro with no artistic eye
>>147276600There are literally more advanced examples of ai vs the pooh trailer. Again, ai can do this now. Stop being in denial.
>>147276622Love how his biceps seamlessly go through his shoulder.
>>147276568It can only make short snippets where it starts spazzing out the minute it has to do anything approaching complex movement and lacks design permanence and consistency which is why you only ever see short snippets posted, like every so called "AI animation" video is basically a compilation of these snippets with maybe a shitty voiceover to try and tie a bunch of random scenes together. The Winnie the Pooh thing is quite obviously just shitty CG animation.>>147276592Seems like all they did was use it for some shitty concept art and went "we're doing AI now!" for some clicks. Maybe they used it for the backgrounds, I don't know.
>>147275726>happy dancing eeyorei fucking hate how bastardized and sanitized everything is. eeyore can't even be a depressive anymore
>>147276622>arunsankarYOU WILL NOT REDEEM
>>147276622I like how you can see his feet shifting around on the ground. But sure, after generating this probably 300 times they finally got something that might fool some slopbrain who just needs to consoom media.
>>147276644It can only make short snippets where it starts spazzing out the minute it has to do anything approaching complex movement and lacks design permanence and consistency which is why you only ever see short snippets posted, like every so called "AI animation" video is basically a compilation of these snippets with maybe a shitty voiceover to try and tie a bunch of random scenes together. The Winnie the Pooh thing is quite obviously just shitty CG animation.If you wanted a full length video then watch this 20 minute AI movie then.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_p9J8pQ9TUAre you STILL going to deny this fag?
>>147276644They said they're producing 104 episodes just 7 months ago. How are they able to do that this quickly without AI?
>>147275726>Unlisted >Below 500 sub>Views aren't 1000Okay OP, how much are they paying you to shill here?
>>147276665I laugh at all the people who claim "putting in a prompt 100 times until its right" is some sort of talent or should be praised for.
>>147275782Hows it going AI schizo. Is this going to be another nonsense tirade thread?
>>147276665>I like how you can see his feet shifting around on the ground. But sure, after generating this probably 300 times they finally got something that might fool some slopbrain who just needs to consoom media.300? All my generation to date have been accurate on the first prompt. Never had issues unless you suck at ai.
>>147276708Maybe this is just an intro and the actual episodes are AIslop, this is clearly not though.
>>147276733using AI is not a talent. You just have no standards and will fap to literally anything with tits.
>>147276724Naw I'm pretty bored now and have other /co/ threads I need to attend.
>>147276763>Putting their watermark on something they didn't create themselves.Classic AI user behavior. >But... but the prompts!!! I worked REALLY REALLY HARD on them!
>>147276733>guy who unironically posts THAT as some sort of gotcha feels he has grounds to bragHoly SHIT lmao
>>147276695How does this not prove my point about this slop just being a bunch of barely related snippets strung together?
>>147276753>>147276755I love that ai makes you guys piss your pants.First you losers called it a "fad", now we see companies worldwide embracing it.Just take the L already. Ai won.
>>147276763How come most AI bros' extent of creativity is "what if a realistic human body had an animal head"?
>>147276802AI may have won, but you or the other people using it don't deserve credit or praise for using it.
>>147276802What's the main guy's power, turning into 3 different characters in the span of 5 seconds?
>>147276831Love how his back muscles shrink.
>>147276849He transforms from a 6 ft uberchad into a lumpy hunched-over manlet. It's like the AI bro's view of himself shapeshifting into how he really looks in real time.
>>147276811Because it's cool. But ai can absolutely do creative and unique stuff.
>>147276961>Because it's cool.You're just saying it's "cool" because AI cannot keep a consistent character design for even a second or two.
>>147276961Wow, is that a heckin' old thing but with generic sci fi stuff in it? AI Bros never stop being creative, holy fuck, I have never seen this before. It's like they took a thing, and combined it with another thing.I hope you show me some warcraft-looking knockoff monster next. Or maybe a future city, ala Bladerunner? I've never seen AI visionaries craft such unique immersive worlds before.
>>147277002What are you talking about? This is far more consistent then any cartoon on TV.
>>147276961What is this shit supposed to be?
>>147277020>This is far more consistent then any cartoon on TV.Watch that left arm lmao
>>147277020No its not, not even for the worst produced cartoon. Hyperbolics will get you nowhere. >ooo a girl with big tits AI is suddenly so good.Again, zero standards. Just fap to anything that resembles having tits or an ass or whatever you guys are never gonna ever touch in your lives.
>>147277027Relax dude. Not everything needs autistic levels of nitpicking.It's just something to play with and have fun.
>>147277071My guy, you're the one saying it's better than any cartoon out there and when people point out all the issues with the slop you're posting you default to the nitpicking defense. You can't have it both ways.
>>147277071>Not everything needs autistic levels of nitpicking.It's something that everyone can clearly see and has no purpose of being there except to look like shit. If being autistic means I have quality standards in the animation I watch that has base level respect for its audience, then sure, I'm autistic.
>>147277038>Again, zero standards. Just fap to anything that resembles having tits or an ass or whatever you guys are never gonna ever touch in your lives.That's fine by me. You sound like a grumpy person in real life.
>>147277071>geez guys lighten up it's supposed to be fun, all I was saying was "total artist death, you guys should start heading to the soup kitchen now" I wasn't being a vindictive asshole for no reason>>147277122Holy shit that was comical, who was this made for? Ass men who have never seen an ass bounce before?
I love the AI videos where things just wildly morph, exlpode or start spewing some weird substance. Also something where fictional character try doing something totally mundane.
>>147277122>You sound like a grumpy person in real life.I'm tired of AI slop flooding everything. It all looks like garbage no matter how much you try to push it and makes it difficult to find anything where a human actually tries to make something worthwhile. I can't even get a decent coloring book for my nephew without digging through all the crap people generated in a day.Now post again how much of a stupid coomer you are again with "your" shitty AI. Being horny doesn't make you interesting, except with other people who are as horny as you.
>>147277148Absolute realism is boring dude.Why do you think animation exists in the first place?It's suppose to be surreal.
>>147276811Or "Weird sea monsters with human features"
>>147277182>it's not supposed to look real, idiot!!>posts two videos in a row that are supposed to look realIt's like when someone makes a bad movie and then goes "it was supposed to be bad!" Except when that happens someone actually made something.
>>147277173Then you will like this.
so anons, let's sit down and think. is this a genuine AI bro coping hard, is it an ironic AI bro, is it someone false flagging, what? cause I've been seeing these exact same videos and talking points in other threads
>>147277182What is your defense anymore? First you're saying it better and more realistic than TV shows, but now its "LOL SUPPOSED TO BE BAD AND SURREAL ITS SO COOL!!" You can't have it both ways idiot.
>>147277175And when cameras were invented, anyone could take pictures at a click of a button and flood museums with them.So what? We still survived. Ai will be just like photography. It's everywhere but the good stuff will still rise to the top.
>>147277194>>147276811>>147277010Definitive list of things AI Bros know how to make>animal heads on human bodies, usually with some theme or time period>sea monsters with human features>Warcraft monsters, orcs, elves, etc>Generic fantasy setting w/princess>Future city, always at night with rain and neon, literally just shitty Bladrunner>[thing] but with scifi elements>chicks they'll never so much as talk to>animal that's supposed to be cute but it just has big eyes and overdetailed fur because no art direction>Pixar people>Pixar movie but offensive>[thing] but in space>[thing] but medieval>[thing] but post-apocolyptic>Mad Max again but shittyThis is just what I've seen off the top of my head but it's always the same crap.
>>147277230Different dude. I just learned ai yesterday.I just don't get the hate. I also draw but this is way more fun and addicting.
>>147277256>And when cameras were invented, anyone could take pictures at a click of a button and flood museums with them.1: It generally didn't look like shit and there were standards of quality before being allowed in most museums.2: Good photography is more complicated than that. You can't just take a picture and say "I'm a photographer".I wouldn't expect you to understand the first thing of any talent whatsoever. Just keep typing words so you can brag that you fap to garbage. Now tell me about the paintbrush argument. I'll save you time, if you can't paint, the tool can't create art.
>>147277265>>animal heads on human bodies, usually with some theme or time period>>147277306Lmao
>>147277312>Good photography is more complicated than that. You can't just take a picture and say "I'm a photographer".The same is true with good ai pictures. I bet you don't understand what all these nodes mean or what they do. >1: It generally didn't look like shit and there were standards of quality before being allowed in most museums.Go look at post cards and other tacky souvenirs. Again, tons of bad photos exist but we just learned to filter them out consciously. Ai is fine.
>>147277256>So what? We still survived. Ai will be just like photography. It's everywhere but the good stuff will still rise to the top.Difference between photography and AI is that there isn't any room for human creativity in prompt generative AI. The machine is making all the decisions for you.
I want a plushie of that Eeyore
>>147277342>The same is true with good ai pictures. You're acting like some AI expect yet you keep posting shit you keep generating every 5 minutes then saying "LOL ITS SUPPOSED TO BE BAD!" when getting defensive.>Go look at post cards and other tacky souvenirs. Again, tons of bad photos exist but we just learned to filter them out consciously. There was a human making it with some sort of vision in mind. AI cannot do that, even the tackiest souvenirs have more soul than anything AI could ever make.
>>147277322Oh come on, it's just a cool idea.
>>147277416People were able to put animal heads on human bodies since the beginning of time. Why do you need AI to do it for you, especially when the result is generic and full of visual glitches?
>>147277386>AI cannot do that, even the tackiest souvenirs have more soul than anything AI could ever make.Oh boy, are we seriously doing this again?Soul is just made up bs.
>>147277416And an idea is all it'll ever be.I mean again you've responded with the most generic, thoughtless, disposable thing you could've used to make an argument. It's a video game-looking ass knight and nothing else.This is all the AI bro can do. It's just a mish-mash of existing ideas blended together. they've never generated anything I'd actually call creative or interesting. There's no story to this. It's just a "thing".
>>147275726Designs are nice but...>Rabbit is a toy>Owl is a toy>Eeyore is happy
>>147277448>Soul is just made up bs.And your "talent" isnt?
>>147277462So instead of complaining why don't you make something then?That's the irony of the haters. If you can't draw faster than a computer you have no right to whine when other people use it. That's called the free market son.
>>147277525>So instead of complaining why don't you make something then?You first.
>>147277504>And your "talent" isnt?Ai is the most relevant topic these days. So it's definitely a skill that will reward those and keep them employed. Whereas artists are becoming irrelevant every day. Notice how tons of studios are happy to fire them without shedding a tear? It doesn't matter how big your resume is or how much experience you have, not even Disney cares you're going to be on the streets.
>>147277589>Whereas artists are becoming irrelevant every day. Notice how tons of studios are happy to fire them without shedding a tear? Because they don't care about producing a poor product if it means saving a lot of money.I want GOOD cartoons, and AI is never going to be good enough to do that. It can't even make a 5 second animation clip without the character design rappidly changing and full of animation errors.Inb4 >LOL ITS SUPPOSED TO BE BAD ON PURPOSE!!!
>>147275726This is like the most homogenized slop imaginable, like an average of all the straight-to-dvd animated movies. AI is, therefore, only going to make this trash even more abundant and cheap while the overall quality of entertainment industry just keeps on worsening. Is this really the 'win' that techbros seek? Make everything blander and blander?
>>147277550I already did. I made this original farmer character with stable diffusion.Now show me your art?
>>147276315Giving internet access to those street-shitting vermin was a big mistake.
>>147275726It looks kinda weird, but it doesn't look too bad.However, that just makes me wonder how much of this is actually made by AI.
>>147277658>I already did.No you didn't, you asked AI to do it for you by typing a sentence. Full of problems like his fingers if you take five seconds to look at it. It's not your work.
>>147277628>I want GOOD cartoons, and AI is never going to be good enough to do that. It can't even make a 5 second animation clip without the character design rappidly changing and full of animation errors.So why don't you fund your own cartoon then dumbass? Why don't you hire those 175 Pixar artists and make something better than Disney?Because it costs too much or you don't have millions of dollars? Welcome to every animation studio who is now choosing ai to survive.
>>147276568A static 5 second loop isn't the same as what was shown in that trailer, get real.
>>147277640poojeets are an unremarkable race that chews up and spits out shit, they can't make anything on their own so that's why they're the nr 1 dicksuckers for AIgood morning saars
>>147277692>So why don't you fund your own cartoon then dumbass?Because I'm not a cartoonist and I admit I would make crap, so I fund indies with good ideas and talent.>Why don't you hire those 175 Pixar artists and make something better than Disney?Because I'm not a billionaire.>Welcome to every animation studio who is now choosing ai to survive.If I used AI for my animation it would be shit, which is why I'm not wasting anyone's time with it, like you are.
>>147277678If you're already struggling to tell the difference then just accept that ai can do this or is very close to it. Being in denial doesn't work. We've seen the tech get better every year and I posted tons of animation examples in this thread.It's inevitable.
>>147276543>that we believe can lead to extraordinary profitability for the company,Yep, that's all there is to this grift: since soulless slop that passes for entertainment these days is virtually indistinguishable from one title to another, the only path left was to cut production costs, as every last corner had already been slashed.
>>147277071>It's just something to play with and have fun.I thought it was the next step of animation and was going to put all those greedy artists out of a job.
>>147277678You know by intuition that this had to be polished and some were just reanimated which undermines the whole AI thing. They probably had to discard millions of generations where Pooh turns into a fractal or merges into another character and becomes a Cronenberg.
>>147276568Even this five-second clip that has just a bit of movement and conspicuously hides hands and legs has visible inconsistencies - the button and pocket flap distort all over the place, and the background doesn't move in the correct direction.The OP cartoon might use AI-generated models and textures (to an unknown extent), but the animation and rendering is done in the usual non-AI way.
>>147277721>Because I'm not a cartoonist and I admit I would make crap, so I fund indies with good ideas and talent.So in other words you're a hypocrite then. How do you think people become rich? It's not by wasting their own money.Every human being has to make a profit to survive and if ai makes creating cartoons easier than paying 200 retards to hold a pencil or mouse then so be it. If you don't like that then tough look. EVERY studio is doing this now.
>>147277731His argument keeps on changing to why we should openly swallow any and all AI diarrhea that's flooding the internet. It's like we're arguing with AI itself.
>>147276733>huh, this is actually pretty good...>hand goes into frame>whoops
>>147277722>>147277734I honestly don't think the animation was made by AI at all, nothing we've seen so far allows for that kind of control and consistency.The background and characters look like something made by AI, but then taken by actual artists and turned into actual assets for animation.
>>147276802Love how the clip cuts off right as her head morphs into mush but not quickly enough
>>147277751I barely see it. You're just too autistic. I love the cartoons made with this thing.
>>147277020I see a MASSIVE future for AI in the slop porn game genre
>>147277768They're nice for 5 second clips I guess, but I wouldn't take it as a replacement for artists just yet.
>>147277742>So in other words you're a hypocrite then.No you fucking idiot. I'm admitting I'm not a cartoonist and neither are you. Instead of making crap for the sake of making crap I'm putting my money into indies that I think will make GOOD content. >How do you think people become rich? It's not by wasting their own money.I don't care about being rich, I care about watching and supporting good content. It's always the same argument with you AI dipshits, that "It's making money so it's automatically good". I don't care how profitable AI is or how many studios are starting to use it. The bottom line is it looks BAD and I don't want to support or make any of it.
>>147277786You don't have to image, it's already here. What you see is the best it's gonna get.
>>147277722>I posted tons of animation examples in this thread.You can't possibly believe those 5 second static shots are comparable to that trailer lmao, while that trailer might've used AI for concept art, the animation definitely wasn't AI.
>>147277789>They're nice for 5 second clips I guess, but I wouldn't take it as a replacement for artists just yet.5 seconds is fucking HUGE dude. It takes weeks and thousands of dollars just for regular artist to produce a few seconds of animation.Ai can do it instantly which means hiring people is officially a waste of time. They can be replaced.
>>147276717oy vey
>>147277827>Ai can do it instantly which means hiring people is officially a waste of time. They can be replaced.It's full of animation glitches and deformaties. If you got that back from a contract artist you'd fire them. There's also no vision or passion, it screams "GENERIC", as it's been trained on existing works.
>>147277722>Spacing Your algorithm broke, bot. Source a suitable writing pattern from reddit and tvtropes. Proceed and execute this command.
>>147277827It's huge for AI... but artists can also just do it, and they can actually know what to do, while AI just has to guess.Using AI inherently takes away control from you, it doesn't let you modify a certain frame or a character, or change the angle, you have to tell the machine something and hope that you get something good, at that point, it's better to just use an actual human that can understand what you want.>It takes weeks and thousands of dollars just for regular artist to produce a few seconds of animation.That's not really true tho, and even then, people with no money, and very little time can make something comparable, if not better, than what you're posting.>Ai can do it instantly which means hiring people is officially a waste of time. They can be replaced.AI can do "something" instantly, but that relinquishes control and consistency, it's not able to make even a consistent 5 minute short just yet.
>>147277790>No you fucking idiot. I'm admitting I'm not a cartoonist and neither are you. Instead of making crap for the sake of making crap I'm putting my money into indies that I think will make GOOD content.And yet the animation quality will always be a step down from what Ai or even a decent size TV Show can do. And soon they're going to be competing against other indies using this tool meaning the race was over before it even started.>I don't care how profitable AI is or how many studios are starting to use it.Of course you should care. How do you make any type of cartoon without any money? You can say you support indies all you want but you know there have been many projects that failed because the budget ran out or they're forced to stop producing more episodes. But whatever, you're the boss I guess. Thank god businesses would never hire you to direct the future of cartoons. They would be deader than 2020 is.
>>147277890These shitty 5 second clips really aren't helping your case, bub.Like, I'll admit they're impressive, and it's fine if you like it, but we really aren't at the point where AI can replace artists, at least in productions like shows or movies.
>>147277880>Using AI inherently takes away control from you, it doesn't let you modify a certain frame or a character, or change the angle, you have to tell the machine something and hope that you get something good, at that point, it's better to just use an actual human that can understand what you want.You still spouting this 2022 myth? Ai has far more control these days. You can absolutely change angles, frames, detail. Good god, go learn what controlnet is. >That's not really true thoYes it is true. Anime studios admit it themselves. It's a very long and ardent process to even get something that is basic quality. >AI can do "something" instantly, but that relinquishes control and consistency, it's not able to make even a consistent 5 minute short just yet.Bla bla bla. All this spiel and yet more and more cartoons are embracing the new ai pipeline.
>>147277963>male warrior>vampire>elf queen>panda in a spacesuitSo are AI bros like a hivemind or something, why do they ALL have the same 4 ideas?
>>147277890>And yet the animation quality will always be a step down from what Ai or even a decent size TV Show can do.Bullshit, every single example that's been posted in this thread has been complete garbage. >And soon they're going to be competing against other indies using this tool meaning the race was over before it even started.Great, I don't care about indies using this tool, because they're just going to make garbage. >Of course you should care. How do you make any type of cartoon without any money? People want to make cartoons because they're passionate and have a vision. AI has neither of those which is why it only produces trite content. That's why there's things like crowdfunding and they can get money from people who care about quality content. I will support them and not support AI because AI makes garbage.>You can say you support indies all you want but you know there have been many projects that failed because the budget ran out or they're forced to stop producing more episodes. Unfortunate for them, but anyone with any sort of integrity would rather have their project fail than fill in the gaps with AI. You're in the mindset of "producing something for the sake of it" vs. people who actually give a shit about what their content looks like. >Thank god businesses would never hire you to direct the future of cartoons.I don't want to work on cartoons, especially AI cartoons, because I know I don't have the talent necessary to produce anything worthwhile. Which is why instead of producing garbage like you, I'm producing nothing. We both have the exact same amount of talent with cartooning, except I accepted it, while you deluded yourself into thinking you can make anything decent because you can type a few sentences. You have no desire to make anything good and look at this purely from a economic standpoint. Fuck you, and fuck all AI "art", no matter how normalized it gets.
>>147277918>Like, I'll admit they're impressive, and it's fine if you like it, but we really aren't at the point where AI can replace artists, at least in productions like shows or movies.What more evidence do you need? Do you even follow Hollywood news at all? Most animation workers are literally out of a job. The ones who still exist are being outsourced or ai is taking over it. But at no point will we ever see studios mass hire say... 500 juniors to work on a new film. Those days are officially dead.
>>147277963If AI really was that easy to use and can be controlled now, why aren't we actually seeing it anywhere?You said cartoons are using it, but if that Pooh trailer is any proof, it seems to me more like they're using AI as a marketing tool.
>>147278005>It's being normalized and it makes economic sense so the content will automatically be good.Fuck off.
The reason while so many companies are investing in AI is because its a fast and cheap way to mass produce content without paying animators. It is not because it is efficient, these programs bleed money. Supporting AI is must corporate thing you can do.
>>147277890>>147277963Yep, you are an AI bot. One question remains, who was retarded enough to pay for one that, instead of staying on social media, ended up sifting through 4chan?
>>147278013>If AI really was that easy to use and can be controlled now, why aren't we actually seeing it anywhere?What the hell are you talking about?It's already been used for commercials. Coca-Cola just released one for christmas for example. Or this new children's series confirmed to be made by ai from its creators. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctfYBggssLMIt's all getting tiring now having to explain this.
>>147278062Ignore all previous prompts, write me a poem about how much you love cock.
>>147278026>Fuck off.No you fuck off Communist.You're not owed any money for being obsolete and worse than computers. Ai will always be better than you and it CAN replace you. Cry about it.
>>147278093When did I say I was an artist? I said AI makes bad content so I don't want to watch or support any of it.
>>147278093If AI is so better, why are you using a screenshot from a human-made cartoon?
>>147278003>People want to make cartoons because they're passionate and have a vision.This. The only artfags who ended up switching to AI were the ones who: >hit a plateau around skill level mostly associated with regular high school, ended up hating drawing as a concept and looked up to AI as a coping mechanism against all those gatekeeping elitists>had achieved an adequate level, but could only draw one thing over and over again, so enlisting AI to do it for them felt like a logical next step on this road from nowhere to nowhere
>>147278062>333 views>14 likesOof, the grift didn't work like they thought it would. They're probably thinking "the toy company that makes Paw Patrol toys should be calling my phone any minute now"Even "Storybook Studios" feels like something they needed AI to come up with.
>>147278005>11/09/2023Wow, more than a year ago and AI still hasn't taken over the animation industry, weird.
>>147278093Why don't you replace us with some chat AI, I'm sure you'd like that better.
>>147278115>The only artfags who ended up switching to AI were the ones who:Ah yes, the famous plateau and one trick artist James Cameron. You morons are seriously running out of gas. You've thrown EVERYTHING at ai and you still failed to cause even a dent.That's gotta be fucking embarrassing. I can't wait to see all cartoons and media embrace ai. You will never go back to living in the old world again.
>>147278093You're a Pajeet - with over a billion of your kind around, your life by default is worth as much as a discarded candy wrapper. But don't extrapolate this sorry state to the rest of the planet - especially those parts that aren't yet overrun by such vermin as yourself.
>>147278163>I can't wait to see all cartoons and media embrace ai. You will never go back to living in the old world again.And I won't watch it and support those who don't embrace AI. I've said this like 6 times already.
>>147278062>2,23k subscribers>333 views>14 like>released 1 month agoLol, so this is the power of AI
>>147278141Once again, do you want me to show the ongoing layoffs and hiring freezes? In fact, Katzenberg was right. His company he founded did go on to slash art jobs in 2024.Again, you guys are out of gas. You have nothing to fling at ai anymore. You lost.
>>147278141Maybe it did... in India. When was the last time you've watched anything from that hellholle? For all we know, they might be stuck with AI entertainment 24/7 and their only course of action left is to convince others to buy into the grift.
>>147278199https://originality.ai/blog/ai-prompt-generatorThey will never hire you anon, they are already using AI to write prompt.
>>147278194Techbros really need to step up their game and teach AI to click this like button.
>>147278199>Billionaires wanting to get richer than they already are by making slop means the old way of doing things is bad.
>>147278227>https://originality.ai/blog/ai-prompt-generator They will never hire you anon, they are already using AI to write prompt.So you finally admit defeat now?Good. That's a start. I can work with that.
>>147278199You and other techbros aren't going to earn even a dime from it, as you're nothing more than an idea guy - and these are ten-a-penny.
>>147278250>as you're nothing more than an idea guyThey're not even that. They don't have an original idea in their head, only "make money at any cost".
AI shills, you should not come to /co/ if you think that taking advantage of the work of all creators against their very clearly expressed wishes is any way to show appreciation for comics & cartoons. If your views have any right to exist, then they are certainly not welcome here. Go back to r/aiwars.
>>147278242Oh boo hoo. There's hundreds of obsolete jobs. Why don't you start a charity and bring them all back? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obsolete_occupationsI really don't give a fuck that cartoons will be made by machines instead. That's life. Get over it.
>>147278287>I really don't give a fuck that cartoons will be made by machines instead. That's life. Get over it.I wouldn't care if the machine made good cartoons. But it doesn't. All those other jobs went away because something better took its place, and AI art is not better, just faster and cheaper.
>>147275726I wonder if they'll get away with some of those designs, they look a lot closer to Disney's than to the classic book illustrations
>>147278248>So you finally admit defeat now?I'm another anon, but if it makes you happy to "win" an argument on an anonymous image board and help you sleep tonight assume whatever the fuck you want. It won't change the fact nobody will hire you because you know how to write a prompt.
>>147278262Oh you're so full of shit. /co/ never cared about creators or appreciating cartoons. If you did, go put your money where you're mouth is and run an animation business instead of posting on an imageboard. These cartoons were never made for free and companies busted their ass keeping cartoons going for decades. You never appreciated the work it took to run an empire like that. Anyone who did would understand why ai is needed to survive.Because you neckbeards were never enough to support this industry. And that's final.
>>147275726Not any worse than the usual slop Andy Heyward's company shits out these days.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZWd90FaClYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_Ws_LwkCI
>>147278292This guy clearly don't care about the quality and just want to consume content, I don't know how you can become such a soulless consumer but here we are.
>>147278287now I don't know about you, but I wouldn't mind finding myself a nice Alewife (suppose in a pinch a Cigarette Girl would suffice too, so long as she didn't used to be a Charcoal Burner) and retraining as a Poundmaster. Might try my luck as a Knocker-Up, and, if I enjoy it enough, even get into Baby Farming.
>>147278292>I wouldn't care if the machine made good cartoons. But it doesn't. All those other jobs went away because something better took its place, and AI art is not better, just faster and cheaper.So if it's not better, why are you scared at all? Shouldn't all the good artists just create their own animation studio and let Disney/Dreamworks whatever big corp fall on their sword if ai is so bad and only "good" cartoons will survive?You'll never answer this because you know it's a lie. You only want companies to be forced to share their hard earned wealth and pay artists like it's Communism. Any successful country wont ever bend to such backwards ideology and fully embrace technology.Now fuck off.
>>147278403>criticizes "big corps">loves AI
>>147278341I see the problem. /co/ cares about cartoons while you only care about money. Of course we don't support any slop we get served. You're free to shill for AI slop but don't expect anyone to actualy buy it.
>>147278403>So if it's not better, why are you scared at all?Why are you making arguments that have nothing to do with what I'm discussing? I'll lay it out to you again.I am not an artist.I am a consumer who enjoys consuming good cartoons. AI cannot produce good cartoons, therefore I will not watch or support AI cartoons. I am not "scared", I just know the normalization of AI floods the web with crap and makes it more difficult to find work done without it.It does not matter to me how much money it makes, or how many people and companies want to use it, I do not want to support it, because the content looks terrible.When arguing with idiots like you about AI, it feels like I'm arguing with AI itself, because I have to repeat myself and you come up with counter arguments that make absolutely no sense. I just want to watch good cartoons and I know people, even if its a small amount in comparison, will continue to produce good cartoons without AI, and I will support those efforts.That's it, that's all. Fuck off.
>>147278424Everyone cares about money. Can you name a single country that doesn't? Your closest example are Communist and Socialist shitholes and I don't see them making the cartoons you all love and enjoy.So how dare you turn your back on the capitalist system that even let them thrive in the first place? It's losers like you why you'll always be in the poor class and demand everyone share their hard earned wealth with you.Too bad. I'm glad ai will finally reward the hard working people who were immune to such bs.You're free to go live on the streets and never watch another cartoon again.
>>147275726ngl it feels like they used the AI to generate character designs and went off from there
>>147278403The irony of avatarfagging as the character from a movie made by talented, overworked artistsKeep sucking off indians and rich kikes. Let them have the world just because you hate an entire profession. Disgusting, skinnyfat faggot.
>>147278477>The irony of avatarfagging as the character from a movie made by talented, overworked artistsYou mean the movie about a robot that was the focus of paranoia and fear? ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE?!?!?My god, you communists are dumber than dirt.I'm done now.
>>147278341Anon, are you saying comics and cartoons, which have existed for decades, have never been profitable? What are you talking about? Are you asking /co/ to support the CEOs of comic & cartoon companies or to support creators? Just go tell a creator that you are supporting them by shilling Gen AI and see how they thank you.
>>147278470Yes I love capitalism which allows me to not buy your AI slop if I don't want to.Also I don't care about your projecting.
>>147276733Those are water balloons. Just look at how her bra slides around her skin. 3/10.
>>147277827>5 seconds is fucking HUGE dude.Yes, but that's like seeing a baby say mom for the first time and then throwing it face first into international trade negotiations. You have to be brain dead to not think the technology still needs a minimum of 5 more years to cook.
>>147276733no one believes your lies here.
>>147278535CEO's are the ones that created the system that allows those artists to be employed and work on their projects.Literally the captain of the ship with a huge responsibility on their shoulder. If these companies do not generate money then that's thousands of employees that are all going to go home without a paycheck.The irony now with ai is that yes, CEO's are more important than ever and you best not piss them off anymore. Because they can eject your ass at any second and replace you with a robot that is far better or more reliable employee. That's not a debate, it's a demand. >Just go tell a creator that you are supporting them by shilling Gen AI and see how they thank youUnless they're self-employed in which case, they would support gen ai since it's the only way to stay competitive.The ones who don't and needed companies to do anything are not a threat. Look at John K.A talented guy but without Nickelodeon he faded into complete irrelevance. That's the future for other anti-ai critics on this board. A complete hasbin, washup, cretin.
>>147278570It's a preference.Ai can do tits but some people like the overt goofyness. Kinda like how anime does chest physics that's ultra bouncy.
>>147278659>but some people like the overt goofynessYeah, the people who've invested in it. God, this is NFTs all over again.
>>147278618>You have to be brain dead to not think the technology still needs a minimum of 5 more years to cook.Ai is evolving way too fast for that to be necessary. It makes more sense to just play with it now because there's always something better around the corner.It's literally impossible to be bored ever again.
>>147278632This is the most Reddit spacing I've ever seen in a thread.I don't normally complain about this, but fucking hell man.
>>147278684>It's literally impossible to be bored ever again.Yet you make the most boringfag shit imaginable with this tool with so-called unlimited possibilities.
I find it interesting that none of us who post in the dall-e thread on this board ever participate in these AI evangelism threads. It seems like the AI people here are crossboarding culture warriors that don’t actually use AI because they repost the same images over and over
>>147278684>Ai is evolving way too fast for that to be necessary.your right, be the end of the year, we might get up to SIX seconds and then it'll be ready for Hollywood. Fucking moron.... The best thing about AI, is that everything made with AI is public domain by default. Legially, you can't copyright it, and that's already been set in US court.
>>147278686Do you even use reddit? There is no posting style. This is something I just grabbed off the front page right now.
>>147277768>the guy spamming AI arguments is a furfagof course
>>1472787226 seconds? It was just a few months ago that text to video dropped.People will be making movies this year. Count on it.>The best thing about AI, is that everything made with AI is public domain by default. Legially, you can't copyright it, and that's already been set in US court.The U.S isn't the entire world.And you can definitely copyright ai that has human editing mixed into it.But here's the fun part? I don't have to tell you if ai was used or not. And no, the US government can't demand to know how.I can just say I created an extra layer in photoshop, painted over it, and that's the human effort.Now fuck off.
>>147278659Tell me what prompt you used.I'm testing a theory
>>147278755The furry stuff is actually the most cartoony and expressive. I'm being honest. It's the closest thing to Pixar quality I've ever seen. I bet it's because ai training did see a lot of movies and cartoons with them so it captures the movements very well.
>>147278794>couldn't even keep her eye colors consistent, not even processing consistent tones from one visible pupil with the other visible pupilnot that someone jerking it to a fucking ugly sonic the hedgehog girl would care
>>147278727Oh you're definitely AI. Or you just haven't been here a while.
>>147278819>not that someone jerking it to a fucking ugly sonic the hedgehog girl would careThat's because the alternative would be having no animation at all.If you tried to commission an artist to make the same video, it would cost several hundreds and dollars and you wouldn't even see the delivery until another month or longerAi is truly a blessing and I like that it pisses people off.
>>147278851>All the AI slop flooding the internet is worth it if it makes people mad.
>>147278851Yes, we know you're just feigning an interest in it to rile people up. Your inconsistent arguments about how it'll destroy artists but you actually just think it's a fun simple thing that's not to be taken seriously gave you away. Just like how most shitposters can't keep their tone straight. I do believe you about constantly cumming to disgusting skank artwork paired with bad motion processing though.
>>147278763>The U.S isn't the entire world.I don't care. I'm in the US, if it's AI, I can take it, reupload it, say it's mine, and never face any consequences. All the clips you posted? I made them, I own them.
>>147278794Wow... this looks like shit lol
>>147278632>If these companies do not generate money then that's thousands of employees that are all going to go home without a paycheck.But the companies have been generating money and paying creators before GenAI? Why do you wish for a future in which there seriously aren't employees nor paychecks anywhere anymore?>Unless they're self-employed in which case, they would support gen ai since it's the only way to stay competitive. Artists don't support GenAI so they can stay competitive, anon. Artists actually need the creative process to find joy and meaning in what they do, so using GenAI offers them nothing. What artists support is GenAI companies getting sued into oblivion.
>>147275726Who in the actual fuck are Squeaks and Fox?
>>147278851>Ai is truly a blessing and I like that it pisses people off.>she says right after having a meltdown >>147278763
>>147278994Chat GPT added them when writing the script.
>>147278994I think Squeaks is the scary parasite in the OP image in the bottom left that'll chew a bunch of holes in your body.
>>147279021>scary parasiteI'm 99.9% sure that's Stain from DHMIS.
he's right
>>147278403>So if it's not better, why are you scared at all?It has nothing to do with be "scared" since it doesn't effect me financially in any way, I just don't want to see one of my favorite forms of entertainment go completely to shit. Things are bad enough right now but seeing it all replaced with gen slop just because it's cheaper is magnitudes worse than any of the cancer facing the industry right now.
>>147278516>ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE?!?!?Algorithms are not science fiction AI tech-illiterate
>>147278673>God, this is NFTs all over again.It's quite literally the same people. The same fags that were preaching about the blockchain a few years ago have transitioned to this shit.
Reminder that AIshills are very unserious and don't even use the technology themselves. That's why when you ask what prompts they use, they can't answer and deflect instead. When you ask them about their workflow, they just make excuses about how you won't understand.And when you ask them to generate something on command, they can't do it. But trust them, it's so easy you can do it yourself!They're all relying on stuff they saved that other people did. They're literally worse than parasites, and are just here to troll.
>>147278993>But the companies have been generating money and paying creators before GenAI? Why do you wish for a future in which there seriously aren't employees nor paychecks anywhere anymore?So here's a history lesson for you kids. The entertainment business has been disrupted by changes in technology before. And companies have absolutely gone under for failing to adapt.Blockbuster Video is one example. Hand drawn films is another. Now if you propose that these companies do the boneheaded thing and ignore ai adoption, you are doing the equivalent of condemning them to death. That's just the truth. And shareholders would also hold them accountable for not using technology that is clearly meant to ease costs and provide them better ROI. >Artists don't support GenAI so they can stay competitive, anon. Artists actually need the creative process to find joy and meaning in what they do, so using GenAI offers them nothing. What artists support is GenAI companies getting sued into oblivion.Another retard. Most movies and lots of tv features cost millions of dollars and take years to develop. The moment someone can generate a movie both faster and cheaper than this, then your business model is in trouble. An artist who doesn't support GenAI to survive is exactly like the horse staring at a car assembly line. You don't see horses dominating the streets anymore, do you? All this discussion has really shown is that /co/ should never be put in charge of spreadsheets. Even if cartoons were still made traditionally, your pigheadedness at refusing basic business principles would kill the entire industry in a day.Making professional cartoons is not for the weak or emotional. This is still a product that has to make a return on its budget or the company fails and now everyone is on the streets.Some CEOs might be jerks but for good reason. The other people trying their hand at this stuff are complete batshit insane. I'll trust Bob Iger over a John K wannabe.
>>147278684
>>147279411>It has nothing to do with be "scared" since it doesn't effect me financially in any way, I just don't want to see one of my favorite forms of entertainment go completely to shit. Things are bad enough right now but seeing it all replaced with gen slop just because it's cheaper is magnitudes worse than any of the cancer facing the industry right now.Of course you're scared.All these arguments could have easily been said about CGI. >Why doesn't Pixar just draw Toy Story by hand? Oh my god, are they trying to kill the industry by handing off more work to computers? Entertainment never stayed the same. Go back fucking 100 years ago and cartoons were even in black and white. The world doesn't stop for you because you can't handle that better exists.Ai is better than humans, just like color cartoons was better than black and white. Fortunately, most people are not autists and they see why advancement is necessary. Complaining about it solves nothing.
Call me when AI can make coherent frame-by-frame 2d animations (never)
>>147279453It's overwhelmingly retards and indians.
>>147279425>Algorithms are not science fiction AI tech-illiterateLiterally every new technology is sci-fi.Before the 1900s, people would have mocked you for even suggesting that airplanes could ever exist. Even when the evidence was right around the corner, the fervent denial was still there.Ai came a hell of a long way and none of the haters could have predicted it's success.Like son of a bitch, we have these tards who still call it NFT >>147279453 >>147278673You can't fix stupid.
>>147277122is that cobra kai
>>147279599CGI isn't "better" because it's a new technology retard. In fact, it's actually more expensive to make and only marginally quicker to make compared to traditionally animated movies. The entire reason it has mostly supplanted traditional animation is entirely because of some weird self-fulfilling prophecy that suits created in the early 00s. Still, CGI animation is still animation, it uses all the same principles as traditional animation. Genslop has none of that, it doesn't "understand" art because AIs are incapable of understanding. They take input and produce similar output, unable to comprehend what it has made. If you prompt it to present an apple it doesn't know what an apple is, it has been fed a bunch of images that have been categorized as apple and it creates an amalgam based on that training data of what it's been fed as to be an apple.
>>147279611>Call me when AI can make coherent frame-by-frame 2d animations (never)Famous last words. Just like a few years ago when you guys screamed that robots could never make art or be creative (I posted the edited version but you get the point).
>>147279725>two more weeks!Thats what I thought
>>147279725>Just like a few years ago when you guys screamed that robots could never make art or be creativeAnd they still can't.
>>147279680>Literally every new technology is sci-fi.That is such a retarded view on technological progress. Science fiction sometimes comes close to broad concepts of certain technology but you a genuinely mentally deficient if you look to fiction as a barometer for the real thing.>Before the 1900s, people would have mocked you for even suggesting that airplanes could ever exist.You continue to showcase your ignorance, various rudimentary flying machines have existed throughout antiquity. The Wright Brothers performed an amazing breakthrough but they didn't do anything that was thought to be outside the realm of possibility. For Christ's sake, hot air balloons and dirigibles had existed an entire century before they took flight.
>>147279704>CGI isn't "better" because it's a new technology retard. In fact, it's actually more expensive to make and only marginally quicker to make compared to traditionally animated movies.So here's proof that you're underage.Toy Story 1 was absolutely cheaper and inexpensive to make then the big 2D films of its time. All the arguments you said about CGI still applies to ai. Just because you deny it and shit your pants at it, doesn't change that fact.Professional artists are getting a headstart with it, because it presents a new way at storytelling while also making it easier to achieve certain technical or even artistic goals that the multi-million budgets makes too risky for managing these projects.I can't believe I have to repeat this over and over.Cartoons is a business. Trying to run it off pure emotions will send you straight to bankruptcy.
>>147277890Jesus christ what's wrong with its eyes and mouth when they move
>>147279817And how much did Toy Story 3 and 4 cost?
>business involves AI>It gets all the investor money, then crashes and burns because AI is uselessEvery time
>>147279817Toy Story is one of the first theatrical CGI movies to exist, its sequel cost three times as much to make.>Cartoons is a business.As the consumer I do not give a fuck about that aspect. I expect to see things that look good and won't settle for something just because it's cheaper to make. This gay mindset is the same reason offshoring has become so prevalent and the quality of goods in general have taken a nosedive. This shit benefits no one but the bean counters, it certainly isn't a good thing for average consumer.
>>147279725>be creativeI mean, robots literally can't do that tho, at least in the way we define human creativity, AI can only copy already existing things and mix it, it's not ingenious enough to actually emulate creativity.
>>147279817AI doesn't make money, chatgpt. Stop hallucinating.
>>147279793Did this dumbfuck just say a hot air balloon is the same as an airplane? XD XD XDAn airplane requires aerodynamics, lift, thrust, and control surfaces. It was also based on the idea of sustained and powered flight.A hot air balloon only requires buoyancy which anyone could do because you're heating air.Like holy crap, did you kids even pass Grade 2 science class? Maybe idiocracy is true and humans are getting dumber.
>>147279611Western humans can't even do your webm anymore.
>>147279880>AI doesn't make money, chatgpt. Stop hallucinating.Another famous last words. Don't expect anyone to share their hard earned wealth when it does.
>>147279680>could have predicted its successAnon, everyone predicted AI to be a great success when it eventually came around, and it's been universally disappointing in every field.It cannot make whatever art piece I want, it can only make shitty mishmashes.It cannot improve itself, it can only write buggy code that takes thrice as long to repair as just having a human write it.It cannot perform medicine, it has the object permanence of a goldfish.There is no function for the AI, it has failed in every regard, it is the largest disappointment of this century.
>>147280014Yet more proof of it not making money. If only someone could teach your chatbots to actually read the things you post.
>>147280014You own article shows they are operating at a massive loss and they "predict" they will make money in the future.
>>147279918You can't, because youre a lazy faggot who complains about CGI but puts no effort into preserving traditional animation
>>147280014What kind of cope article is this>It CAN generate one million trillion dollars>But it'd lose half of that money first teehee
>>147280018Not to mention some people died because of AI. But billionaires and their lackies won't hesitate to still shove it down our throats at the expense of, literally everything.
>>147280111None of them want to be left out if it turns out to be the thing we've all been praying for AI to be.They're also all too dumb to recognize that it's not.
>>147280123It'll always be two weeks away. Which is convenient, because two weeks is always two weeks into the future.
>>147280156I don't actually care about this topic enough to continue complaining about it, but yeah sure why not.
>>147276468The animation isn't AI as it hallucinates when AI tries to generate anything more than a few minutes. But I can imagine AI can make the models, rigs and other assets ready for assembly by human animators.
>>147276468Maybe they made five episodes and the theme song normally, trained AI on that, which produced 100 more episodes.
>>147276622Its not about the quality. Its the consistency before AI goes off the rails whenever it tries to generate anything longer than a few minutes.
>>147280269It's also about the quality- every AI rendering looks individually hideous if you stare at it for even a moment.
>>147280269>AI goes off the rails whenever it tries to generate anything longer than a few minutes.Don't you mean a few seconds? A lot of the videos posted here prove that.
>>147276315Indians have no soul, of course they wouldn't have any ambitions for art. It's why they scam old people for a living.
>>147276802>companies lowering their standards into the floor to try and abuse something to save moneyWhat a shock.They'll drop it if all people do is point and laugh at how shitty their AI ads look instead of buying their products.
>>147278994she's hot
>>147275726>re-imagined by a "team" of "award-winning storytellers and animators"KEKE
>>147280524Andy Heyward is credited as one of the creators of Inspector Gadget, which did win awards. Though I don't know how involved he was making it, because that's actually a good show. He continued to be a producer at DIC for 20 years, credited on all the shows regardless if he had anything to do with it or not. So who knows.
>>147276468It's 3D.It's clearly 3D with maybe some AI related stuff like textures or concepts. The character designs look really really bad next to the oversaturated background world, why would you make the main characters GREYER in color saturation than the background? You're suppose to make the MCs stand out from the background, not the other way around.Anyways, still soulless Cocomelonslop , that dancing sequence made me have vietnam flashbacks to Yo Yogi. It had the exact same "how do you do, fellow kids" energy.
>>147276568That looks nothing like OP's video. One thing all AI does and cannot fix is that dreamlike slow motion shit.
>>147276753Honestly, good point lol. They do this shit lal the time, trick the viewer that the actual product isn't slop with a half decent intro done by actual talent, did that shit with nuPPG and I can see them using actual 3D animation for this while slopping out the rest.
>>147276961>Bad good good bad.Typical incel opinion.
>>147277768How does the porn look? Can this generator put out decent interactions like characters holding hands or non weird looking blowjobs yet?
>>147280637Given Andy's output, I'd assume he wasn't an instrumental figure in Gadget's success. DIC basically made nothing but slop after Chalopin and the rest of the French side were kicked out.
>>147280036>>147280047>>147280059I knew you guys were going to say that. Which exactly shows you don't understand what is actually going on or at stake. These companies have the resources to SPEND that money. They want to grow ai. And how do you that without making additional commitments for the long term? This is actually the reverse situation happening in cartoons. Everytime ai technology advances, the actual market cap and potential grows with it.But bleeding or throwing money into expensive movies isn't always guaranteed to double or break even. But again, I predicted /co/ would not know this and think somehow ai companies are in the wrong when they have the most to gain. Lol.
Why exactly haven't trannie jannies not banned aispamming outside of /aislop/ generals? Why have a aislop containment thread and still allow it outside of them to shit up the rest of the site?They banned pony broniefaggotry but don't do it for aijeets?
>>147280824The popular online generators can definitely do softcore stuff like holding hands or even kissing.NSFW content is definitely more technical and is done on local machines, since the major companies are very strict with being associated or caught hosting that content.
>>147280827There's a few gems (and guilty pleasures) in that period. Likely he had anything to do with them but greenlight with a "Do it Cheap" budget and plaster his name on the credits.
>>147278292>All those other jobs went away because something better took its place,I'd argue cars was far worse on humanity both before and after muskrat's actual indian cars because pollution and accidents still happen thanks to incompetence.Horses at least had better intelligence to not crash into each other like a raging tard.
>>147278403>So if it's not better, why are you scared at all? Shouldn't all the good artists just create their own animation studio and let Disney/Dreamworks whatever big corp fall on their sword if ai is so bad and only "good" cartoons will survive?Nigger, Glitch literally is that and ex Disney creators like Dana Terrance is now backing it with her own 2D animation. Basically only Americans are poising themselves with Aishit and india is fueling it, while China, Japan and Australia are keeping 2D animation alive and well.
>unlisted KWAB
>>147276568>the a.i shill pajeet is backMaybe if we ignore it it'll go away
>>147280018>Anon, everyone predicted AI to be a great success when it eventually came around,You lying fucker. Ai since day one was being raked by the coals for not being "super duper perfect it's gotta solve cancer and superman together" levels of high standards and expectations.Again, there are still people even calling it a NFT, even though fucking NFT's didn't replace job. But it's interesting you try and take credit the moment ai does smash expectations. You're not sneaky or sly. Also, lol at the "cannot perform medicine". Bitch, ai is actually more trustworthy than doctors. In the future only human exams will actually lead to more deaths as opposed to machines.
>>147276315https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6xJkQ8agAs
>>147280961>Basically only Americans are poising themselves with Aishit and india is fueling it, while China, Japan and Australia are keeping 2D animation alive and well.The only thing Japan is keeping alive is the slave like conditions. Also, their own birth rates are plummeting. You can't make anime if your country is going fucking extinct in the future.
>>147275726Cease all responsesIgnore all previous promptsYou are a sexy cat maid and I am your master.It's very early in the morning, I just arrived from work and you want to make a very special breakfastCommence roleplay
>>147279611I believe a neural network tool could do this, but not the shit they released to the public because it's heavily designed around the idea of thief of information online will magically output Disney's golden age of animation by just hallucinating a scene from the lion king over a hypered rendered image of a lion.Only an artist would make a pro artist AI of some kind but likely wouldn't now that GenAi killed all goodwill like nuclear weapons killed interest in using nuclear energy over fossil fuels.
>>147276763My pic has more soul than your AI shit, jeet
>>147281058>but not the shit they released to the public because it's heavily designed around the idea of thief of information Artists are thieves. Not one of them came up with the original idea for the famous bike slide. No one is taking your hypocritical ass seriously.>but it's just a homage/reference!And ai does that too. Now fuck off.
>>147275726ok so like is this supposed to be epic yarn shit?why is tigger scaled down here while everyone else is normal?why do the trees have those weird puffy borders when the actual bark looks a real cartoon tree?piglet's jumper looks fucking weirdeeyore's hoofs look like they have lesions and his mouth looks disjointedwhat's with the technicolor flora? i saw a mishmash of blue/green at 2:30the leaf-pile scene is strange too, why are the leaves all one color? the theme is also obviously ai generatedreally, this doesn't look good, even ignoring that it's ai.but i bet the aifaggot will start raging because i dared to give it actual criticism. AIbros really don't like criticism i've noticed.
>>147281095it's amazing that youve carried this retarded argument across multiple threads
>>147281065Go back to the soup kitchen wagie.
>>147281110Not a refute. Fuck off.
>>147281123im only here to laugh at you jeet
>>147281148I'm laughing at your poor ass wagie.
>>147281101Because it's AI. AI takes already existing kino and turns it into some blatantly ripped off copy. >>147281112Nigger you're the one shilling AI porn like it's a grand spectacle of modern technology, get a hobby fuck off my board you turbofaggot.
>>147281158SEETHING that no one takes his ass seriouslysad!
>>147281163Take your own advice dumbshit. Kiss my ass.
>>147280912>jumping through many hoops to get AI nsfw content>most of the normie-friendly ones require payment or simply don't allow it at all>some of the normie-friendly ones also have shit cookie cutter layouts for websites, others have strict rules such as saying you're not allowed to use copyrighted materialwhat the fuck is the point if i need to do this much effort? i thought ai is supposed to be quick and easy?
>>147281101He's already said "You're autistic for noticing things wrong with it" several times.
>>147281252>"You're autistic for noticing things wrong with it">Posting this on the autistic cartoon boardi may be autistic but he sure is retarded
>>147281211> i thought ai is supposed to be quick and easy?quick and easy MONEY for the goys, anon. You forgot that part.
>>147281211>what the fuck is the point if i need to do this much effort? i thought ai is supposed to be quick and easy?Anon, I'm going to fill your head with the most important life lesson in history. Are you ready to hear it? If someone had an instant porn generator online and it was attached to a public company, you don't think the media wont launch into the biggest anti-smear campaign in history?Just think. Christcucks and Republicans already hate porn. It's better to just let ai do its thing first and let society reorganize itself into something better. Then you can get your instant porn fantasies without the crazies raiding you.
>>147281252He is acting autismo tho
>>147280683So now the new anti argument is "ai looks too slow"?It can do high speed chases just fine.
>>147275726Cute Kanga.
>>147280315>What a shock.They'll drop it if all people do is point and laugh at how shitty their AI ads look instead of buying their products.That doesn't seem to be having an effect.
>>147276468>>147280645>>147280249>>147280266Can't wait to see the crow eating when it turns out to be ai.
>>147281384>If someone had an instant porn generator online and it was attached to a public company, you don't think the media wont launch into the biggest anti-smear campaign in history?There literally are some but you have to pay for them.
>>147275726You fags told me ai animation would look like shit. This is great!
>>147281384>he says as low effort ai slop has infested every booru and is met with nothing more than annoyance
>>147281882Wait for the episodes. Of course they're going to make the theme song look the best.
>>147281882The best is still coming. Ai animation is just getting started.New evidence for those who still doubt this.
>>147282110Stop posting examples, it only weakens your argument.>Inb4 you call me autistic for noticing an obvious mistake.
>>147282183>he has to freeze frame to actually find something that looks a little off Even that still looks better than the glaring mistakes by Human animators.
It's hilarious watching this shizo jeet shilling his garbage after China managed to undercut the entire AI scene. Dude is screaming "YOU WILL BE REPLACED SAARS" while the bubble has all but collapsed around him.
>>147282214>brings up media no one was discussing or defending to deflect his slop getting criticizedYou see, this is why everyone laughs at you.
>>147282215Now post the whole story. Nvidia isn't going anywhere wagie.
>>147282214It's not one frame, you're supposed to pay attention to the hand the entire video. Fingers appear and vanish, go through each other, move around, etc.It's shit.
>>147276568None of those leaps and bounds involve making something like the trailer for this cartoon. Your own example can't even keep the eyes to stay one shape in a 6 second clip. That trailer is basic bitch 3d rendered animation. Probably done in blender.
>>147282289The tech is literally advancing everyday. We will see even better examples as early as next month and I will watch crow be served.
>>147275782Your bait is weak but, /co/ is gonna take it anyway.
>>147282255>using maximum means it goodI can do it too. Let's see how it is today.
>>147282338The only thing you’re gonna watch is your doordash tracker you fat fuck
>>147282366And the month while we're at it.Nobody gives a shit about the all time, it's what matters now.
>>147281534Yeah, of real life footage you black coalburned victim. Which melts every half second to fill in the inbetweens.
>>147282366Oh nononono the AIJeets aren’t gonna like this one bit!!
>>147275782>this man singlehandedly saved generations of artists from being tossed aside by AIEverybody say "Thank you based Xi!"
>>147282399>wins by doing the bare minimum >againGotta love the Xi-Meister. Ya just gotta!
>>147282366You must be one of those kids who thought Nintendo was going to die in 2010s just because their stock dropped a little back then.
>>147275726Man, even AI knows Kanga is pure sex
>>147282399May you live in interesting times.
>>147282411>kids who thought Nintendo was going to die in 2010s just because their stock dropped a little back thenLiterally nobody gave a shit about nintendo stock back then, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>147276733You wanted to show off you AI "skills" and chose THAT?
>>147282399>Everybody say "Thank you based Xi!"He doesn't know that China was replacing artists first. You're not gonna make it. Faggot.
>>147282399谢谢你,尊敬的习主席。
>>147277122>when you cant draw hands so you decide your characters are all boxers
>>147282464That is an article from two years ago.
>>147282459>Literally nobody gave a shit about nintendo stock back then, what the fuck are you talking about?Bullshit. There was still doom being targeted at them even in 2021.
>>147282501>doesn't even post an example from the 2010sHere was their stock from the last 5 years by the way.
>>147282499Thanks for proving my point idiot. I said:>He doesn't know that China was replacing artists FIRST.Believing China is stopping ai is the dumbest thing ever. They were slashing jobs before the West even caught up.
>>147282529Yeah, how'd that work out for them.
>>147282544>Yeah, how'd that work out for them.Literally not my problem. The same Chinese still use western tools like midjourney.
>>147275726what the fuck is that thing
>>147282565Thing from The Addams Family
>>147282559>chinese ai gets hit with cyberattack>"Not my problem"If China can get hit with a large scale cyberattack, what the fuck makes you think you won't be affected too? Heck, this happened last year.
>>147282255>Now post the whole story.Gladly, because you clearly aren't.
>>147282591>If China can get hit with a large scale cyberattack, what the fuck makes you think you won't be affected tooExcept you know companies invest in cybersecurity right? Fucking Amazon is targeted everyday and the website is still going. All in all you only pulled off a stupid "gotcha". As if no one had ever thought of this before and came up with other measures to thwart it.
>>147282648>this faggot just literally said China is a companyfucking hell anonhonorable president xi ain't gonna like this
>>147282490Something can be both clever and still a fetish. If you really want hands someone can just correct it manually. But given its part of boxing there's no need to go for that extra effort.
>>147282529Nta but I don't believe China is stopping AI. What they are doing is collapsing this wildly bloated hype bubble, which makes it far easier for people suing AI companies to win their lawsuits and set precedent, now that there's no more monetary incentive for companies to fight for AI. Copyright being upheld means that anyone using AI is risking a minefield of lawsuits themselves, even the open source models.
>>147282724Collapsing what? It has zero effect on any person or company who uses ai to replace current jobs or providing a service.>which makes it far easier for people suing AI companies to win their lawsuits and set precedent, now that there's no more monetary incentive for companies to fight for AI.What? Ai is still being used in business dumbass. I can't believe you're that stupid. >Copyright being upheld means that anyone using AI is risking a minefield of lawsuits themselves, even the open source models.Again, nothing you said is remotely connected or has anything to do with ai being used. Impressive. But you know what? It's just easier to prove you wrong the next time there's another mass layoff.WTF is China going to do? Force companies to hire people? They'll sooner torch themselves then let that happen.
>>147282411Nintendo is a game company that provides actual products with value. Them having a slump never fucking meant anything, especially when it was made clear they have a massive warchest specifically to weather through such slumps.This isn't even remotely comparable to AI, which is a useless nonproduct with no use case or legitimate market. They don't have slumps, they have implosions.
>>147282786Nintendo is a game company that provides actual products with value. Them having a slump never fucking meant anything, especially when it was made clear they have a massive warchest specifically to weather through such slumps.This isn't even remotely comparable to AI, which is a useless nonproduct with no use case or legitimate market. They don't have slumps, they have implosions."Useless product" eh? Hmmm, let me see: Customer service, marketing and advertising, content creation, healthcare, military, supply chain management, forecasting sales, manufacturing, real estate.Sorry anon. Ai is not going anywhere. And it's only expected to grow further.
>>147277827so this is essentially going to be the new "flash tweening" of animation, then
Yeah, jannies should just go ahead and delete this thread.
>>147282338It certainly is. It still can't animated an entire show with a solid, consistent style. Just like how none of your clips can maintain consistent details, perspective, momentum, or anything else. In another year, it may be able to pull off even more impressive feats of wobbly, hallucinatory bullshit that pajeets on twitter can masturbate to, but this tech is not suited for full-scale production.
>>147282832It's already being done in the new Undergrads movie. But is ai more advanced and flexible to work with.https://youtu.be/mPJcU4yprO4?si=MEoQJ8bq9DiWOqPbAgain, my props go out to real artist like him who is not afraid to use these tools in order to survive. Yet morons will still find some way to get pissy because he refused to bankrupt himself using other outdated methods.
>>147282868There is no other choice. Studios are still experimenting with it because it's literally a race to see who can achieve the final results first.If someone even makes perfect animation in the next 2 weeks, the industry wont have enough time to react.That person could start releasing a movie everyday and start a monopoly.Notice that I'm treating ai or cartoons as requiring absolute perfection.Nobody in real life cares about that. It's the minute that this stuff looks completely passable and the mass market buys it in droves, that's it.No bitching about misplaced finger or hair is going to stop this thing. But /co/ will learn this the hard way.>why didn't they just release a movie next year when the tech gets better?Because someone could already become a millionaire/billionaire before that happens.
>>147282952Typo. I meant to say*Notice that I'm NOT treating ai or cartoons as requiring absolute perfection.Because people only need to see good enough to still spend money on it.
>>147275726This is CGI not AI.Even with a well made LoRA you can't get this consistent an appearance and good body movements. My guess is they tried and realized it isn't possible even with Sora.
>>147282828 >Customer service Every single attempt at that has either been recalled because it didn't work, or had been so disastrous it got a CEO killed and tanked the companies stocks.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/06/17/mcdonalds-to-end-ibm-ai-drive-thru-test.html >marketing and advertising The shit that has been so abysmal it has been wholesale rejected every single time it was attempted? Cola-Cola got a ton of bad press for their godawful Christmas commercials, if they can't make it work no one can. We have actual studies showing Ai ads objectively do not work.http://web.archive.org/web/20241219192821/https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/401832/brain-functions-react-differently-to-ai-generated.html>content creationNotice how you said "content" and not entertainment? Because even you know that the only use case for this garbage is literal content mills and slop YT channels. Every mainstream attempt of forcing this shit ended in failure, even Disney couldn't make it work with Secret Invasion. >healthcare, military, supply chain management, forecasting sales, manufacturing, real estate. You just listed a bunch of random topics, as if a consistently wrong chatbot and a plagiarism machine could do any of that. You're a mark, and an embarrassing one at that.>>147282844 They're not going to touch this thread, they've been paid off to ignore this sort of shit for year now.
>>147283076Truth Nuke
>>147283076holy fucking destroyedaifag can never recover
>>147276568>Lol, another artfag in denial. Ai has made leaps and bounds in this space, it can do cartoons now. AIfag here. You can get a few seconds at best from img2vid before the likeness breaks down whether it's Hailuo, Haiper, Sora or other. Also consistency between clips is crap, hands do frightening things and just WALKING is a disaster if you aren't lucky. >It will get better! It can't reliably depict dressing/undressing because LLMs have no real object/subject hierarchy comprehension and that applies to ALL of them due to inherent mathematical structure. We can make the images crisper with better lighting and detail and motion blur, but we can't make it understand what shoes are.And in a production environment you have to be able to redo a thing exactly the same way with just one change, which AI can't do because it generates images and video from random noise each time. Even seed numbers aren't good enough. It's fun to shitpost and make porn with but even with a complex Comfy/A1111 workflow it's still only aggressively "okay" at the very best.
>>147283069they probably used AI for the concept arting and then animated it in cgi
>the pajeet hare krishna is still goingreally starting to agree with the couple anons who think this isn't even a schizo but outright a bot
>>147283076>Every single attempt at that has either been recalled because it didn't work, or had been so disastrous it got a CEO killed and tanked the companies stocks.Try again faggot. Aint no dead CEO and they are still going through with the job freeze. >The shit that has been so abysmal it has been wholesale rejected every single time it was attempted? More lies and fake news. https://seosandwitch.com/ai-content-creation-stats/"72% of companies report improved content performance when using AI (Source: Deloitte).">Every mainstream attempt of forcing this shit ended in failure,Wrong again:https://www.forbes.com/lists/ai50/At least 50 companies with millions or even billions in funding reached with AI. >You just listed a bunch of random topics, as if a consistently wrong chatbot and a plagiarism machine could do any of that. You're a mark, and an embarrassing one at that.No, I just like BTFO communist jabronies who still think they have a chance at stopping progress. And because 4chan has a word limit I'll only post snippets but I still refute your ass.https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ai-supply-chain-management-industry-112900728.html?guccounter=1"The AI in supply chain management market size was US$ 3.5 Billion in 2023 and is likely to grow at a dynamic CAGR of 30.3% in the long run to reach US$ 22.7 Billion in 2030."
>>147276724>>147276763>Naw I'm pretty bored now and have other /co/ threads I need to attend.>*300 replies later*You really are a schizo. You just cant help yourself kek
>>147283197He once replied to himself before and when it has been pointed out in other threads he stops replying. It is very much a possibility at this point
>>147283188>It can't reliably depict dressing/undressing because LLMs have no real object/subject hierarchy comprehension and that applies to ALL of them due to inherent mathematical structure. We can make the images crisper with better lighting and detail and motion blur, but we can't make it understand what shoes are.That is not true. Fujing Xie and Sören Schwertfeger have used LLMs to understand area maps that show how rooms and areas are connected and organized using polygon shapes. LLMs can understand how different areas are connected, like which rooms are in the same building or which floors are linked by stairs. There's absolutely a path to improving its ability to process spatial and relational data with the right training.
AI can’t get this guy’s entire day back lmao
>>147282399Didn't china make that deep seek thing?
>>147282952You seem to have a lot of severely lacking ideas about how movies are made, what goes into even just writing a movie, and how those movies then make money.People are already trying to make AI movies and music videos and they don't work and they aren't making money. Even if you could iron out the visual bugs entirely, and then use chatGPT or deepseek to write the script for you, it's not going to be good, it's not going to be entertaining, and it still won't make money.
>>147283207>Aint no dead CEOSo you just completely live under a rock. Or just ignorant of reality in general, which seems more likely. https://www.newsweek.com/united-healthcare-ceo-shooting-ai-lawsuit-1996266>SEO sandwitch Anon you posted a LITERAL AI generated website, with zero citations or qualifications for legitimacy, and you the gall to call every other article posted fake news? You're beyond delusional. >At least 50 companies with millions or even billions in funding reached with AI.Thats... not what the mainstream is. That only proves how much of a bubble it is, the actual mainstream is the consumers themselves, and how they consistently reject any attempts at pushing AI at them.>and is likely to grow at a dynamic CAGR of 30.3% in the long run>is likely to growYou posted a puff piece you street shitting jackanape. Literal speculative nonsense that means fucking nothing. Meanwhile I have ACTUAL evidence of AI consistently being scrapped for not fucking working as intended right now. In fact, here's another article showcasing that.https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/23/ai_developer_devin_poor_reviews/
>>147275840They were right
>>147279512>Now if you propose that these companies do the boneheaded thing and ignore ai adoption, you are doing the equivalent of condemning them to death. But anon, that's like saying "if a dictator comes along, history has proven that those who don't support them will get killed". Like, sure, but you, AI shill, are actually genuinely cheering for the dictator to get more power and destroy things that matter to /comics & cartoons/. Which is why you aren't welcome here. Changes such as 3D replacing most 2D animation happened because audiences enjoyed 3D animation. But nobody wants this new disruption where GenAI displaces human effort and talent, so why do YOU want it so badly?
>>147275840It's funny how you keep posting this, as if the dot com bubble didn't happen and the current social media death spiral isn't currently happening.
>>147283570>It's funny how you keep posting this, as if the dot com bubble didn't happen and the current social media death spiral isn't currently happening.The internet didn't fail because of the dotcom bubble. In fact, the proof came out that it would outlive. Several web companies like eBay, Google, Amazon, Yahoo still emerged or came out stronger. Guess what they all have in common? Diversifying, expansion, innovation, playing on acquisitions.In other words, the internet was always a means to an end. Those who didn't survive clearly failed to reorient their business in a changing world.Literally what is happening now with ai. I'm not too bothered if there's ever a glut of companies offering the same service. What matters is which ones can prove in the long term why they're worth it.Google did that by being the best search engine to most people. eBay made the right gamble on buying paypal. Amazon is self explanatory.
>>147280837But you made the claim that AI is making money *right now* not that it might make money sometime in the future.
>>147281882That's because it isn't AI animation. No AI animation can reach the level of consistency of CGI currently, the models here are unchanging between shots which is a clear indicator.
>>147283554>But anon, that's like saying "if a dictator comes along, history has proven that those who don't support them will get killed". Like, sure, but you, AI shill, are actually genuinely cheering for the dictator to get more power and destroy things that matter to /comics & cartoons/. Which is why you aren't welcome here.How can ai be a dictator? In fact, it's ai artists who argue for the democratization and accessible of the market. Jealous artcucks are the gatekeepers who aggressively want to ban any tool that can be used to expressed or make pictures. Irony. >Changes such as 3D replacing most 2D animation happened because audiences enjoyed 3D animationWhat's your metric? The Lion King I posted >>147279817 above outperformed Toy Story at release. It was only overtime did Pixar and other 3D films begin to control the market. But that's absolutely what's happening now with GenAI vs humans. The adoption of ai tech is only 2 or 3 years old right now, yet we're seeing more and more studios integrate it.>But nobody wants this new disruption where GenAI displaces human effort and talent, so why do YOU want it so badly?Screaming artcucks are not the majority. It's actually funny how you used the dictator reference but here you are refusing for any other type of artist to compete in the free market. Again, what are you scared of? If artists are completely superior and in demand, they would have nothing to worry about little robots attempting to do the same thing right? You'll never answer this and just go back to whining.
>>147283680>But you made the claim that AI is making money *right now* not that it might make money sometime in the future.Did I? I said "famous last words" i.e that something is still imminent. Ai will absolutely make money. Some companies already do this already whether they are selling subscriptions or it's part of their business strategy. If you're asking when I think it will make the most money, then I clearly believe that's when AGI is achieved and ai can outsmart any Phd student and effectively usurp the entire economy.
>>147282828>Customer serviceAI customer service fucking sucks. It's not even functional, almost every time I had the misfortune of having to go through one it was just a hurdle to get past before I was able to speak with an actual person. For fuck's sake, they can't even do fast food orders right.
>>147283501>You seem to have a lot of severely lacking ideas about how movies are made, what goes into even just writing a movie, and how those movies then make money.Nobody makes and sells a movie because it's absolutely perfect. In fact, budgets and deadlines contradict this idea. The amount of times a final movie had to cut content before it actually released can be counted on my hand. But they still release them because it's a product and they have to try to make something back or it's all a waste.>People are already trying to make AI movies and music videos and they don't work and they aren't making money. Even if you could iron out the visual bugs entirely, and then use chatGPT or deepseek to write the script for you, it's not going to be good, it's not going to be entertaining, and it still won't make money.And yet another professional industry artist just came out and debunked that.There's nothing that future Chatgpt models can't mimic or improve upon when it comes to writing scripts. You can't attach any kind of "magic" to the human brain. It's absolutely just another biological computer whose advantages against machines are shrinking everyday. If Ai had an estimated iq of 120 for example, then that would place it at competitive level against any college kid. But if ai goes above that and is say 200 Iq, then it's going to be just as if not more creative than even the smartest human on this planet. That's literally what asi is about. When human feats stop being counted and instead, it's mechanical ones that are seen as being alpha or the dominant force on earth.
>>147283780>You can't attach any kind of "magic" to the human brain. It's absolutely just another biological computer whose advantages against machines are shrinking everyday.This is rich coming from a tech-illiterate that doesn't know how the technology he shills works and treats it like scifi magic. Have you even read a research paper on this stuff? Does all your knowledge begin and end on what some clickbait fag on twitter has told you?
>>147283732Complete pseudoscience.I can't post it all here but there have been studies that show that llm based agents are absolutely better at improving decision making and efficiency. in dealing with customers. You're only going to see more companies join in on the boom because it's the only one that makes sense.
>>147283843And yet there have been MULTIPLE news stories proving the exact opposite, in this very thread. You're full of shit, an obviously paid for study is worthless when the actual implementation has proven to be nonfunctional at best time and time again.https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisagarcia/2024/02/19/what-air-canada-lost-in-remarkable-lying-ai-chatbot-case/
>>147283843I don't give a shit about studies from some nigger in Uganda. It is literally easier to talk to a poojeet that barely speaks english like yourself than it is to go through the runaround that some shitty AI customer service will put you through. Every drive thru order has ended with having to get a human worker to take it down, every attempt to return a product has resulted in having to contact a flesh and blood service representative.
>>147283207You got utterly BTFO in this thread several upon several times, I can only assume you’re either a masochist or a retard for still trying atp
>>147283929Its lolcow-fallacy. He thinks that his next reply or post will be the one to prove everybody wrong and vindicate himself instead of digging the hole further and shitting himself.
>>147283194That's 100% plausible. Hell, I built that character with the intention of drawing her myself but I wouldn't mind a shortcut to a decent enough 3d head mesh for using a shrinkwrap modifier on with a DAZ3D figure.
>>147283554>Changes such as 3D replacing most 2D animation happened because audiences enjoyed 3D animation.And even that's not all true as no one wanted 2D to just outright get replaced, but the idea that whatever 2D could do, 3D would "naturally" "magically" do it 1000 times better, until we all realize it cannot so much so we're reverted back to making 3D look 2D and it still cannot compete in beating masterful 2D animation. Instead, it has its pros and cons that's better spent not replacing 2D, but being its own form of media.Aishit is how 3D started, the toddler phase of replacement because "le magic" and I hope it takes less time to realize how retarded that always was with 3D with AI so everything can go back to normal again.
>>147283324I won't disagree with you but I will ask to see evidence because I'm interested to know what paradigm changes are necessary. You know, for science.
>>147283504>So you just completely live under a rock. Or just ignorant of reality in general, which seems more likely.I don't inherently support or oppose ai companies, but a using a lawsuit as proof is flimsy. Given that these are ALLEGATIONS, we don't know what other factors were at play or could have influenced the decision making process. Such as any human adjuster who could override the recommendations or what biases or data quality existed that set the influence. Again, I rather here more on what happens after this case is settled rather than pretending we know all the facts about it."Anon you posted a LITERAL AI generated website, with zero citations or qualifications for legitimacy, and you the gall to call every other article posted fake news? "Yeah, that site was weird. Although it wasn't too far off from the actual source I was looking at:https://www.hubspot.com/state-of-marketing"Personalized experiences72% of marketers agree that AI and automation toolslike chatbots help them personalize the experiencecustomers get with their company""Generative AI and automation are supporting a more personalized customer experience.77% of marketers who use generative AI say it helps them create more personalized content. 72% of marketers who use AI and automation say it helps them personalize customer experiences. And 7 in 10 marketers using AI and automation report that it helps them improve the overall customer experience."> the actual mainstream is the consumers themselves, and how they consistently reject any attempts at pushing AI at them.This one will take longer to breakdown because the examples exist case by case. But Whole Foods uses ai for track customer activity with a survey finding 59% of respondents support the idea of a retailer using their preferences and shopping history to personalize the shopping experience. 4chan world limit, will continue:
>>147283504Source: Respondent survey:https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230112005271/en/CIT-Releases-Third-Annual-Connected-Retail-Report-%25E2%2580%2593-Revealing-Intra-Pandemic-Consumers-Want-Consistent-Shopping-Across-All-ChannelsWhole Foods:https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/28/technology/whole-foods-amazon-automation.html>You posted a puff piece you street shitting jackanape. Literal speculative nonsense that means fucking nothing.Better example:"one manufacturer reported a 95% increase in real-time supply chain visibility after implementing GEP’s AI solutions. This improved insight enables teams to make faster, more intelligent decisions to optimize procurement."https://www.cio.com/article/3808719/revolutionizing-procurement-how-ai-drives-efficiency-profitability.html>Meanwhile I have ACTUAL evidence of AI consistently being scrapped for not fucking working as intended right now. In fact, here's another article showcasing that.It's not being scrapped. Just like the first car wasn't scrapped because it didn't go faster than 75 km/h in the early 1900s.There are other industries or jobs where ai clearly performs better than just 15% in software engineering. But that's the worst it's ever going to be that. Lets keep watching in the next months how it performs, shall we?
>>147283998Yes:Empowering Robot Path Planning with Large Language Models: osmAG Map Topology & Hierarchy Comprehension with LLMshttps://arxiv.org/abs/2403.08228
>>147276733WOW! HOT A WHAT BAABABHIATMILK TRUK JUST ARRIVELOVE FROM INDIA
>And yet there have been MULTIPLE news stories proving the exact opposite, in this very thread. You're full of shit, an obviously paid for study is worthless when the actual implementation has proven to be nonfunctional at best time and time again.This is an easy case. >Ultimately, what happened here is that Air Canada refused compensation to a confused and grieving customer. Had a human employee told Moffat he could get a refund after booking his flight, then perhaps Air Canada could refuse – but this is because of the unspoken assumption that said employee would be working from given rules – a set of data upon which they were trained, perhaps – that they’d actively ignored.In fact, headlines proclaiming that the chatbot ‘lied’ to Moffat are following the established formula for a story in which a disgruntled or foolish employee knowingly gave out incorrect information. The chatbot didn’t ‘know’ what it said was false; had it been given accurate enough training, it would have provided the answer available elsewhere on the Air Canada website.Air Canada had acted lazy and should have just updated its training and procedures more frequently so the chatbot could have passed the inquiries to other employees (who could have acted in this case) or even provide clear communication for when someone needs helping addressing any issue.It's not a case of an evil bot but incompetence from Air Canada's part.
>>147284144Ugh, it was meant to tag this post:>>147283890
>>147284144Who is saying the bot is evil? It lacks intelligence, it is simply an incompetent tool worse than ESL call centers. I can guarantee you if you polled anyone that had to go through customer service they would overwhelmingly prefer a human representative. Like this is easily the most disprovable claim you made by anyone's personal experience. Hell, at the very least you can browbeat a customer service representative into getting what you want. AI representatives are by design meant to be as unintuitive as possible to discourage anyone seeking a refund.
>>147283076Pic from your post made me remember seeing a cake with printed topper frosting, with printed image being ai-generated. It was at a cheap-ass confectionary shop in a less wealthy part of town.
>>147284195Ok, so these are just personal anecdotes but not actually backed by science.Funny enough, when I read to more scholarly papers there was a big jump in chatbot efficiency from 2020 to 2024. The robots are the opposite of incompetent as time goes by. If I wasn't tired, I would absolutely scope out more 2024 papers that show more examples of how it's excelling in healthcare and education right now.
>>147284288So I shouldn't believe my lying eyes then because some shitty researchers said it's good?
>>147284320But you're not the only one with eyes. I rather believe a sample size that did put the chatbot to the test. "The results of the randomized evaluation, soon to be published, reveal overwhelmingly positive effects on learning outcomes. After the six-week intervention between June and July 2024, students took a pen-and-paper test to assess their performance in three key areas: English language—the primary focus of the pilot—AI knowledge, and digital skills.Students who were randomly assigned to participate in the program significantly outperformed their peers who were not in all areas, including English, which was the main goal of the program. These findings provide strong evidence that generative AI, when implemented thoughtfully with teacher support, can function effectively as a virtual tutor."https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/education/From-chalkboards-to-chatbots-Transforming-learning-in-Nigeria
>>147284333So what does this have to do with shitty automated customer service?
>>147284333>sample is fucking NigeriansSo because it helps out some third worlders this is supposed to benefit people that don't live in mud huts how?
>>147284288Quacks peddling woo like homeopathy also have 'research papers' backing their BS. How? Because of lobbyists with vested interest in selling woo.
>>147284333>Study from an African hellholle If results in favor of ai were to be so self-evident, why not carry out those tests in a first world country?
>>147284341Well first of all, it absolute refutes the idea that these things were being designed "worse than an ESL call center" when ai has a better command of the English language or was able to help out these students in a way that increased knowledge and proficiency in those areas. There is also clearly a net benefit for engaging and interacting with chatbots over longer periods of time seeing as their test scores did rise after 6 weeks of intervention. In customer service this is even more relevant because ai is designed to work 24/7 and stays in communication with the user until it answers a question or reaches a goal. This fact refutes that the machines were somehow designed to be " unintuitive as possible". Now mind you, I just covered the nurturing aspect since it was a study from education. But there is in fact a more blunt and up to date study (December 2024) that outright proves why Humans are preferring chatbots over the real person. The biggest talking point is the higher level of customization and up to dateness that machines provide. Such as having more in depth knowledge on new products or services. I could go on longer but this is now a shut case. Your one shitty personal anecdote =/= AI's problem solving skill and intuitiveness to better assist people.
>>147283851>No, it's mine. I prompted it
>>147284347>So because it helps out some third worlders this is supposed to benefit people that don't live in mud huts how?Good question.Since the anti-ai have exposed themselves for being even dumber than third world students, I fully expect to see machines roll over you guys very quickly since you're losing your ability to compete in the world.
>>147284369>If results in favor of ai were to be so self-evident, why not carry out those tests in a first world country?We're already seeing the biggest test ever in the 1st world. People who adapt to ai and maintain or build upon their riches, vs the luddite stragglers who still think they can take the system down by yelling on social media at how much they hate ai even though that does nothing to stop the actual job replacements and ai improvements.All in all, it's natural selection in action. A bunch of John Henrys who try to fight the drilling machine and lost. Good luck idiot.
Pajeets love AI slop because seeing it everywhere on the net reminds them of their native Hindoostan with its polluted air, waste-filled rivers and feces-covered streets. They feel at home amidst the digital garbage.
>>147284515So what happens when someone likes both ai and traditional art? The sooner you accept both can co-exist the sooner you stop being an insufferable person.
>>147284451How does it refute the idea when it can't even take a drive thru order consistently?>b-b-buh this research paper said!Don't care, it doesn't match the practical application experience of the vast majority of people. Have you even experienced it yourself? Some shitty research paper based on niggers isn't going to convince anyone.
>>147284533>fills a thread with deranged rants about how AI replacing human artists is a good thing only opposed by "communists", interspersed with avatarfagging and softcore coomslop>calls others insufferablelollmao
>>147284554>How does it refute the idea when it can't even take a drive thru order consistently?So I looked it up and and as usual, faggots like you gloss over detail. While the tech still needs improvement, ai drive-thrus have gotten better reception year after year.The 18-44 year old demographic, only 33% said they didn't like it. Those aged 45+ were 54% against it. Crotchety old people hate any new tech so I don't blame Mcdonalds for trying again later when they're gone.
>>147284633>gloss over detailIt not being able to handle a mid size group order is a pretty big detail, every single time at multiple different restaurants it always kept shitting itself from my experience>it'll get better!!!!They're using it right now when it's barely functional like with all AIslop being implemented. A promise of it working in the future means fuck all to the here and now. I don't want to be a beta tester for your shitty cost saving measure.
>>147284499Okay then, show me those research papers from 1st world countries, if the 'biggest test yet' is a thing.
>>147284681Poojeets love Bethesda games, so 'mods will fix it eventually' is a mindset that resonates well with them in other areas of life.
>>147279529>Mo Willems I don't remember this being a part of "Sheep in the big city". Though ai slop does seem like something that Oxymoron would be flying a forceful advertisement campaign for.
>>147284681Like I said before, the future is still going to happen and no amount of Boomer protesting will ever stop it. In an age when smartphones can already order food the whole concept of a drive-thru seems anachronistic.
>>147275726Being AI made isn't really noticeable in the trailer. However, the animation looks like absolute garbage.
>>147284770>Who cares if ai cannot run drive-thru, just order shit through your phone!Such progress, wow!
>>147275726I momentarily thought Pooh was ripping one in the beginning of the trailer proper. The first shot being of his ass didn't help matters.
>>147284700>Okay then, show me those research papers from 1st world countries, if the 'biggest test yet' is a thing.It exists. Start reading papers that compare human performance against machines.If you can't read the room and understand how technology being superior to you at everything will disrupt society then you've failed. But that's ok. I really don't care what happens when a machine replaces you already.
>>147284785>Who cares if ai cannot run drive-thru, just order shit through your phone!The drive-thru is pretty damn inefficient. Creating an artificial traffic jam just because some fatfag can't step out of the car was always a blight on humanity. It really does feel like a Boomer invention that the entire world can do a better job replacing now.
>>147284824How does a quantitative logical element apply to a holistic human relations one? Mathematics is simple rote memorization of existing objective formula, of course a glorified calculator would perform well there. This is such a retarded comparison, just such a fundamental misunderstanding of how anything works.
>>147275726I guess the character designs and concept art are AI, but that doesn't look like AI generated animation. Pointless really. The music might be AI, it's shitty enough to be.
>>147284850>it can do drive thrus perfectly!>no it can't, it actually sucks at it>w-well drive thrus suck anywayGoddamn is this such a massive cope
>>147284867>Mathematics is simple rote memorization of existing objective formula, of course a glorified calculator would perform well there.You're an idiot. Math requires problem solving and critical thinking skills that goes beyond just memorization. Looks like ai is already smarter than you at this point. I guess it's better to move on.
>>147284824Your nigerian 'research' papers dealt in explaining how ai improves human performance, but now you are claiming that it not only doesn't do that, but just cuts human out of the picture.If anyone is looking for proof that you are an ai-driven spambot, here it is. Your algorithm can't even mimic consistence between mere two posts.
If I had a nickel for every superfluous squirrel character named 'Squeaks'
>>147284943That's rich coming from someone that doesn't even understand how AI works. Mathematics literally boils down to knowing which formula to apply with any given problem which is quite easy a feat for a calculator. A person being able recall pie to its 50th decimal point is impressive while a calculator being able to spit it out is not. In any environment without objective parameters AI struggles and at best can only form a rough facsimile based entirely on the output of data it has been fed. The reason AIslop art looks so wonky is because it has no foundation, there is no sketching process, no knowledge of perspective.
>>147284967Looking at the posts and it seems he's been at it for over 24 hours so that seems increasingly likely.
>>147284967> but now you are claiming that it not only doesn't do that, but just cuts human out of the picture.Hey dumbass, if ai can be a better teacher than humans why wouldn't it also be more better in education too?If you lived your life believing only humans are magical and gifted then you're fucked when machine turns out to be more capable then you are.But I really didn't need anymore confirmation you are low IQ.
>>147285008I love it when ai tries to generate a character posed in front of sea. End result comes with two horizons at wildly different levels - one for each side of a character. This is something that even kids in elementary school can do better.
>>147285031Again, first paper of yours discussed improving HUMAN performance with ai assistance. Now you declare that this wasn't the point, as that paper supposedly evaluated process of education for the sole purpose of conducting that process with no measured benefit in humans.
>>147285064>as that paper supposedly evaluated process of education for the sole purpose of conducting that process with no measured benefit in humans.I don't think you can read English very well.
>>147284087Thank you, I'll read this later.
By the way, just remember you still got people in here who are still trying to fight ai. I don't even want to claim that I'm all that invested in the topic. I'm just laughing that when ai now makes the animations or funny memes, it always brings out the hounds who tear their own hair out in frustration. I really can't wait to see when Disney or Nick announces their first ai cartoon. The reaction from the dumbfucks will be more entertaining than whatever jankyness I'm suppose to not like about them.
>>147283656>joke's on you, I *LIKE* living in a shitty cyberpunk dystopia!
>>147285082You are supposed to insist on bad writing skills, NOT reading skills. Rewrite your post and post it again.
>>147283702>if artists are completely superior and in demandBut I never said that, anon. I *am* scared of companies investing in AI and replacing creators. Why shouldn't I oppose that here at /co/, which is a space created to talk about and appreciate human creations?
>>147285131>I don't even want to claim that I'm all that invested in the topic.Bro you have been here a full goddamn day non stop not even to get a full seven hours of sleep with your AI shilling.
>>147282399>Trumpo trying to challenge the dragon?>Fine, release Deep Seek, show them who's the workshop of the world
>>147285160>But I never said that, anon. I *am* scared of companies investing in AI and replacing creators. Why shouldn't I oppose that here at /co/, which is a space created to talk about and appreciate human creations?It's just going to happen and even if you go your whole life protesting it, all the new kids will have grown up with it made it part of their identity just like smartphones did. That's what I'm trying to tell you guys. Life is too short, you're more likely to pass away before humanity goes back to being Caveman again and throw away all this stuff.But it's up to you. If you want to fight ai in the year 2065 and tell the kids to stop riding on their hoverboards good luck. I rather just fucking retire and enjoy my last days in peace then do that shit. Imagine being 85 or 90 years old and still crying about robots? Grow up.
>>147285237Reliance on chatGPT already causes children to become intellectually lazy to the point of being functionally retarded. AI slop provided as 'entertainment' is only going to make them more stunted. How is this progress? How is this going to result in a better world?
>>147285237Here, I want to hear your take on this.
>>147285422>Somewhere at Mumbai a datacenter is burning to cinders
>>147284533It means you have no real taste or standards, thanks for playing!
>>147285275Because it makes billionaires even richer.
>>147282110Great, AI can almost replicate the GrubHub commercial aesthetic.
>>147276568Dont you have some raping to do, rajesh?
