South Park peaked here.
By what metric? Almost every episode of season 6 is great.
>>150746075>barely any Butters or pre-Tegridy RandyFuck off m8
>>150746084HumorCharacterizationArt direction
>>150746098Randy was barely a character until the Softball episode.
>>150746098Randy was always a mid character, let's be honest
>>150746126He was a prominent side character even before that, on the same level as Garrison or Butters (after Kenny came back). Season 9, the one with the softball episode, is when they started giving A LOT of the spotlight to side characters with little interaction from the main boys (Randy and Garrison had two episodes, Jimmy got one). Prior to that, all the seasons mostly functioned the same way where it starred some combination of the boys and then one episode would be an outlier and star someone else. Now we're so far down the line, it's a fucking rarity if Stan even has lines.
>>150746100The Tegridy era was complete shit and Matt and Trey are hacks for somehow thinking obnoxious meta humor was biting
>>150746269>rarity if Stan even has linesI get your point, but he's had at least 1 line in every episode except Wok Is Dead, where he was absent.But yeah, focusing on minor characters isn't inherently bad, but focusing on dogshit minor characters ie. Randy is bad
>>150746098>>barely any Butters or pre-Tegridy RandyThat's right, peak.
>>150746126>>150746269Randy has always been at least somewhat of a prominent character right from the start, but Liane was the more prominent parent for the first six seasons.
>>150746075this is the best the show's ever looked while still trying to stay within the confines of mimicking cut out animation, albeit digitally
>>150746466I honestly stopped watching Leanne episodes after a while. It's like every post season 10 episode about her is some melodrama faggotry about her struggling to raise her son or something gay like while wearing that faggy trenchcoat of hers with gay sad piano music playing in the background. She was funnier as Cartman's dirty slut mom
>>150746611Agreed. It's only recently where they stopped treating the women as boring straight men/foils to the boys. Red was a cute manipulator and Sheila was a Karen again
>>150746454Randy sucks, Butters doesn't
>>150747482I didn't like Butters at first but I warmed up to him after Professor Chaos. Also him getting anally proved was fucking hilarious. That being said, his fanbase is so fucking gay that it sours me on him.
>>150747602Yeah, Butters fans woobify him way too much.Also, he's more fun as Professor Chaos or any other alter-egos
Since we're on the topic of Randy, what part of him do you think Trey relates to?
>>150747991Like, he became an obnoxious jackass the more they "related" to him
>>150746075Actually it peaked here. But the movie is a nice send-off, and I don't understand why anyone would bother watching anything beyond Season 3.
>>150746075>>150748273Zoomie here, I really like the vibe of late 90s American shows and music. It really gives off that "It's the end of the millenium, so let's have as much fun as we can!" vibe. Actually makes me jealous. Yeah I know this makes me come off like some kind of lewronggeneration faggot, but... eh whatever.
>>150748273But then you'll miss Marjorine...
>>150748273>and I don't understand why anyone would bother watching anything beyond Season 3.For me, it's season 6. Though funnily enough, Matt and Trey hate those first couple of seasons. Just when I thought they couldn't be bigger faggots.
>>150748560Me neither. They can't say that with their output right now.
>>150748317>It really gives off that "It's the end of the millenium, so let's have as much fun as we can!" vibe.I'm a millennial and I always feel like a douchebag for wanting to say this because the end of the millennium is when I turned 13, and most people generally acknowledge that's the age at which most people *think* everything peaked, regardless.I'll just say that the year 2000 was certainly a wonderful time to be 13 years old in terms of media, culture, and socialization. Although I could have done without being a teen in the years following 9/11—it felt like everything was getting dumber and falling apart at a time when I expected things to be smarter. It legitimately feels like I never left the idiocy of high school. I'm probably still better off than people turning 13 right now, though, lol, christ.>>150748560Yeah, I'm being harsh when I say my cutoff is 3, as those are just the seasons I feel the most nostalgia for, but there's still plenty of good content up to 6, at least.>Though funnily enough, Matt and Trey hate those first couple of seasons. They recognize that season 4 is about the time that they learned how to "actually write", by which they mean they learned how to create and apply a formula so that everything feel more consistent. Which does not necessarily result in "better" entertainment, as we've seen.
>>150746075No it was herehttps://youtu.be/-VILgSsesD0?si=CkS_S9qV3D2gCEGg
>>150748721Yeah the formulaic pattern definitely took something away from the show. I remember a season 12 episode (where Cartman does that Chinese impression, Indiana Jones gets raped) starting off with a reference to that formula (Cartman says something stupid, Kyle reacts yada yada) and remember thinking "God that shit is so fucking gay."
>>150748907I think they were self-aware when Stan tells Kyle to tell Cartman to knock it off and he just says "I can't do this anymore"
>>150746075It did?
>>150750333Yes, it did
Having Wendy fart would be sick
>>150748907Trey apparently can't get enough of having plots driven by Kyle and Cartman arguing, and some SPS guys were like "learn what running gags are, it funny", but it does get super boring and predictable when you can play Mad Libs about that and Randy and there are other fun ideas that could be going on.
>>150747602There's one Butterschizo that the deep lore in is kind of crazy itself. >Super sex repulsed but dated an angry incel for a while>Began emotionally cheating on incel and wanted to break up with him, ex now spins this as her being a calculating narcissist who promised him sex but denied it and fleeced him>Incel claims everyone always hated her for being a lying cheating ho, no they hated her for being prudish and autistic if you knew your BBS facts>She was known for being "Butters' #1 defender" and talking about hitting people with objects for insulting him>Her second boyfriend continued to interact with the people who hated her while lying to her that he hated them, broke up with her when she wouldn't bang him while pretending to stay friends but making her another "evil ex story">She became a weird rabid anti for the 7D show and extremely parasocial about Sneezy, has now gravitated back to Butters and how pure and sexless he should be
>>150747636For me, it's Big Texas Butters
>>150752199For me, it's Marjorine
>>150748907That was the EXACT episode I cemented my lost interest in South Park. My interest was already waning, but the entire B-plot just being "BUTTERS DUDE YOU SHOT HIM IN THE DICK!" like five times before Cartman walks out and the plot ends made me go, "Holy fuck, they don't know how to do a running gag anymore".
>>150752397>they don't know how to do a running gag anymoreThis becomes apparent with this season, to the point where I'm fucking sick of Trump
>>150752397There was similar crit to yours from some SP autists as early as season 6 or 7. They felt like certain jokes and personalities dragged on too long to where it bogged down plots rather than made them funny or enhanced.Stan and Kyle were both criticized as so shrieky and preachy, especially Stan being thought of as some insufferable, high and mighty asshole. Though seems that'd be more of Kyle's schtick and reputation as things would go on.
>>150746126To be fair, it was a fucking amazing double parody episode.
>>150752060Thanks, I feel a lot stupider for reading that.
>>150753076Always Buttersfag responsibly.
>>150753087I'm not as mentally ill as them
Yes.
For me, prior to Scott Tenorman Must Die was the end of the 'original' South Park. The original SP is when their #1 focus was on the humor and made fun of everything and anything. Cartman was just a selfish fat kid who would usually say "screw you guys, I'm going home", Kenny died every episode, Chef sang the kids songs, and Mr. Garrison was a closeted freak with a hand puppet.2nd generation South Park was still decent if not as hilarious as the original. It ran from Scott Tenorman to roughly the end of S11 or so. Lotta funny episodes, some real trash, a mixed bag. This was the start of continual plotlines in SP, starting with the return of Kenny's soul, then Kenny's soul possessing Cartman's body, then Kenny finally returning to life. Cartman became the master manipulator, Chef ended up leaving after the Scientology episode, and Mr. Garrison became far more open about his freak shit.Current South Park is from S12 onwards. Occasional rare entertaining episode like Safe Spaces, but mostly focusing on the current outrage and season plotline. Characters barely resemble their original incarnations.>>150748774PROTECT MY BALLS!
>>150753466Also, Matt and Trey have TDSr/southpark is finally waking up to the fact they're bouncing on dick, rehashing plots and making stale Trump jokes
>>150753329It peaked so hard they rehashed a joke from it and called it biting satire
>>150745590I agree
bump
>>150746075trey and matt peaked here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9nDDh0Ioac
