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>>151298067
Yes, but he's gonna get ripped a new one next week so savor him while you still can.
Next season will likely have far more focus on gay spider drama, so there's 40% chance the hotel and its members may or may not actually be relevant for once when that time comes.

>>151298067
Finally a better thread than the last one with the retarded homo wearing sox image. That said anyone else think this entire season is trash? This is worse than the first season. It's a total nothing happens season besides Alastor maybe freeing himself from his enslavement.

And antics like Lucifer being unable to fight sinners is simply bad writing EVEN for Viv. The big deal with Lucifer in religious scripture is he can fuck with living people (story of Job or when he tried to offer Jesus his own kingdom) and if you end up in Hell Lucifer can torment your soul because Hell is his territory. Honestly Hazbin Hotel's writing is objectively quite awful. And don't say "We can't have Lucifer beating Charlie's enemies for her!" Just fuck this horrible writing and fuck anyone who tries to defend it.

So why is Adam held to stupidly high standards compared to any other character? Is it literally just because he's an angel and faggots need demons to relate to?

>>151298067
>episode 1: split between charlie and vox
>episode 2: focused primarily on pentious and heaven
>episode 3: charlie, angel, and vox
>episode 4: alastor and vox, charlie as the B-plot
>episode 5: charlie and vaggie, vox as the antagonist
>episode 6: husk, charlie, vaggie focused
vox is certainly given a lot of focus, he is the main antagonist, but charlie has been in most of the episodes as well

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>Vaggie’s song is telling Charlie that since finding love in Hell is so impossible but they managed to do it so they’ll find a way
>meanwhile Lucifer/Lilith, Blitz/Stolas, Fizz/Ozzie, every other single couple who are in love in Hell:

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Feats, Lu’s pumping them out
From where I'm sittin’, you can hear the crowd
Not give a shit 'cause the Vees are here
They're full of sin, and they're here to win

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>>151298168
He and the other Vees will make it out okay through the power of friendship. I will savor him while clinging to this hope.

You know, I don't think Adam will come back Frankenstein-style, but I'm certain his body will be used by vox as a superweapon. Big laser from the trailer (something Adam can do), Lucifer as a power source (who is another angel), Baxter worked for vox as a bioengineer (nothing forbids him from messing with angelic life), allegedly we would find out what happened to his body this season (which can mean anything), it all fits together

On the one hand he and the Vees steal the show, on the other hand I can't imagine what role they would play if they don't get split up for the next season.

>>151298067
>Lucifer can't hurt Sinners because reasons that are dumb if you think too hard on them
>Angels can't just show Pentious being redeemed in any way because it would have solved the Vox problem
>Charlie has to be socially inept or else she couldn't accidentally prop up the Vox problem

Meanwhile Alastor can ragebait Vox all he wants and get the desired results he's looking for.
Alastor placed himself as Vox's slave so the Rape Moth wouldn't brain Nifty, he's getting redeemed. Everyone HAS to be retarded so Alastors plan can work he eventually becomes redeemed in the long run through repeated selfless acts that he thinks are selfish

>>151298397
Imagine if Emily is the one who has a complete change of heart and wants these Sinners purged.
Like she still says Redemption is great and Charlie should keep trying to redeem the souls who want it, but for the ones who reject it and dare raise their hands against the people of Heaven must be smote with all of Heavens might.

>>151298454
Adam will probably come back in season 3 after Lute aborts the mission on killing Vaggie and breaks down to tears over it.

>>151298493
>>151298543
>Charlie and Heaven war against each other because Charlie wanted no exterminations whatsoever.
>Sera will actually encourage Lute to kill Vaggie and make it even required.
>It stops because Lute is realizing she’s ultimately destroying what’s left of Adam (Gravity takes place with Lute destroying Adam’s room)

Is the exterminations even needed anymore, just introducing angelic weaponry capable of permanently killing a sinner in the pride ring solves most problems that place has.
>Overlords will actually have to protect their souls
because other sinners can just attack the souls in a contract with them to collaterally attack them
>Giving murderers the actual means to do so
Solves the overpopulation problem

>>151298351
Episode three had Vel involved too.

Alastor is kinda shit

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Vivzie actually used to be kinda cute, what happened?

https://youtu.be/4x2nTiGd11c?t=148

>>151298777
Latina self-destruction, guaranteed.
Tumblr possession, very destructive.

Has anyone looked back to Gravity to see what season 3 will be about?

>>151298418
There is some part of me that wants that runour about Vox giving up his plans for them to be real.

Like if he's going to go full "Fuck Friendship" then isn't he just doing Alastor's schtick? Which is probably the point but it'd be fun if the Villain had that realisation for once.

Can't wait to see him and that cuck deer dead

>>151298351
Wait, this is out now? I thought we were still waiting until like the 20-somethingth.

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HE WILL BE REDEEMED

>>151299038
The most wild part would be Lute welcoming him to Heaven.

>>151299038
valGODS hes being woobified AND angel is leaving the hotel? we won

>>151298777
It's called hitting the wall. God forbid the cunts exercise and diet instead of dabbing more glitter and powder on their fattening physique, and also adopting an ideology where their laziness, lack of growth and maturity is accepted

>>151299095
Besides her growing fat, her old style and hair color were so much better too. If she got thin again and stopped coloring her hair, she probably wouldn't look half bad.

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>>151299038
I'll kek so hard when he gets a 1 minute gay ass part about wanting to go up to heaven

>>151299095
>adopting an ideology where their laziness, lack of growth and maturity is accepted
And when you do it, it's called...?

>people wondering why no Sinner has tried to take a shot at Lucifer in all this time
didn't you hear his song?
it was an undeniable, objective banger
I assume losing a Musical Duel is a fate far worse than death in this universe
who would risk it?

>>151298998
first 2 eps released on October 29th and we've been getting 2 new ones each week since

lucifer should pull down his pants and unleash a stinky fart toward heaven as the super weapon

>>151298869
isn't it pretty straightforward? Lute is going to be on a revenge quest to kill someone that Charlie loves (and probably just as many people close to Charlie as she possibly can)
which, depending on how this season ends, will probably be radically unpopular with Heaven and result in her basically going rogue and acting without their authorization

I expect Alastor will take advantage of this, possibly by killing Lucifer if he can find a way to get away with it without Charlie finding out he did it. Blame that shit on Lute.

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>Lucifer in ep 8:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkuOEgaIXGI&t=22s

>>151299551
Gravity has the items of Adam’s room be symbols for the Sinners and the Exorcists. So around season 3, she will relook everything (including Vaggie) and realize she’s killing whatever is left of Adam. This prevents her and a huge army of angels from falling. It presents a new issue, simply by Lute withholding her hand from exterminations entirely.

And the Angel a/b-plot will reflect this arc by him sparing his father (cause Angel doesn’t know his sister is alive in Heaven) or Valentino during the brink of this chaos.

>>151299551
>I expect Alastor will take advantage of this, possibly by killing Lucifer
If he finds out Lu can't actually hurt sinners he 100% will try to do this

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When it comes to Vox's fate at the end of the season, I would prefer;
>Vox is sentenced by heaven to undergo redemption at the Hazbin Hotel, whether he likes it or not
Or
>That idea of Alastor forcing Vox's energy form into his staff to fix it and as pay back, meaning Vox can back and forth with him.

>>151299038
The fallout from even implying that Val wants to pursue redemption/is even a contender in the show will be hilarious to watch

>>151299551
>>151299789
Lilith will need to appear first before Lucifer can die.

>>151298777
Two words: KFC

>>151299853
Consider
>vox trapped in a tv/phone/some device so he can't escape
>forced to undergo redemption as punishment
>still get vee dynamics since apparently valentino is looking like he wants to be redeemed, and you can easily write velvette to join him as besties
>alastor trolling vox across s3
Would be kino but they dropped the ball not having demon Adam be at the hotel for redemption so I don't have high hopes

>>151299873
He's just a porn producer, he's not even that evil compared to most

>>151299551
Viv said that there's gonna an interesting dynamic with Lucifer and Alastor going forward. Some people have predicted that when Alastor gets out of his deal with Rosie, he's going to make a new deal with Lucifer that's much more loose and free than his previous one, but with all the power (if not more). Whereas the deal is that he's essentially Lucifer's executioner/punisher of sinners, something that'd he'd already enjoy doing anyways.

>>151299905
Adam will show up with more wings.

>>151299944
He's a rapist and abuser, even suggesting that he can get redeemed is going to be a massive shitstorm on twitter

>>151299905
>demon Adam
This is the lamest theory because it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the character and the show and really everything
Why would Adam be sent to Hell?
The Exterminations were never "bad". Heaven signed off on them. Adam was still in Heaven despite leading the exterminations and being a general dickhead. He belonged in Heaven, that was Divine Judgement. He didn't do anything different before his death to suddenly make him "unworthy" of Heaven or anything like that

>>151299977
And other people are murderers
Charlie believes they can all be redeemed
treating Val like he's extra-evil just because his sins and crimes are sexual is just stupid
>he's an abuser!
Yeah, I know. He's in hell. That's something he'd have to work to redeem himself from.
That's the same for everybody.

>>151299984
Lore reason: Pentious's redemption changed the game of what is deemed worthy of Heaven and Adam lost his divine mandate with his behavior and actions (Sera's guilt over the exterminations, implied to be Adams idea, showing that he committed a sin) so he was condemned to Hell under the new "standard".

Actual reason: Because Adam is evil because he's misogynistic thats why he was really a villain according to Vivs writing, it'd make sense she'd write him to be in Hell because its her MO

>>151299977
If the wimp who got 4, presumably innocent, women killed through inaction -then dedicated his hellish existence to trying to become a warlord- got redeemed then the pimp of sinners can be redeemed too.

>>151300001
I don't disagree with you anon I'm just saying that a lot of people don't share the same perspective and view those in an unredeemable light, on top of murder/death being a lot more normalized. We're absolutely going to see 10 twitter threads about why Viv crossed the line with implying a rapist can get redeemed (despite the entire premise of Charlie believes everyone can be). Side question though how the fuck do you even redeem yourself for rape lmao. Let your victim rape you??

>>151300070
Nah I agree it's just gonna be funny to see people meltdown over it

>>151299038
I'm not even a Veefag and I think it would be based. The entire point of the hotel is anyone no matter how awful can change for the better. But in truth I just want to see the meltdowns.

>>151299977
In hindsight this is what Hazbin Hotel should've been and where its edginess should come from: trying to redeem people who are actually terrible. The focus on the Vees has been good because the show is making a group of characters likable and endearing who wouldn't be portrayed as such in many other shows.

>>151300089
>Side question though how the fuck do you even redeem yourself for rape lmao. Let your victim rape you??
hahahaha
OK good question
you got me there

>>151299901
>Two words

>>151299038
>gets into heaven
>becomes its new top filmmaker, makes the best wholesome Hallmark movies Heaven has ever seen
>keeps texting Angel Dust to hurry up on redemption already, he needs his best star up there because he believes in AD being a great legit actor

>>151300089
>Side question though how the fuck do you even redeem yourself for rape lmao. Let your victim rape you??
In all fairness, we do not know the "formula" to redemption at all. We just have a few clues. Perhaps in reality redemption is much more arbitrary than expected.

>>151300089
>Side question though how the fuck do you even redeem yourself for rape lmao
Wait, I've got it!
it starts with sorry

>>151300178
yeah like even with Pentious I think most of the cast is missing what really happened there
It wasn't that he gave his life to save others, it was that he overcame his COWARDICE from when he was alive, it was the COURAGE he showed in standing up to an overwhelming danger that washed away his original sin of cowardice

I mean, it's not like he was intending to die

>>151300178
>>151300227
Yeah so even if we don't have a concrete thing, we have the general idea - you're essentially overcoming your original sin. So again, how do you overcome raping or murdering someone?
>>151300198
>"im sorry i raped you, can you ever forgive me"
">HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET INTO HEAVEN?"

>I AM THE SERPENT
>I'M THE FLAME
>THE MORTAL WORLD IS SCARED TO SAY MY NAME
banger

>>151300353
I'm stuck on how to redeem rape, but in Angel's specific case a murderer I'm pretty bought-in on the theory that he has to have Val's life in his hands at some point, and choose to forgive/spare him

since Angel's whole sin is that he murdered his abusive father out of anger, he must now forgive and spare his abuser in Hell
fuckin' way she goes

>>151300541
It goes into that whole thing of "rape is the crime that can't be justified", like how a murder could have been "justified" if it was protecting another, or stealing to feed your family or stuff. Where there's no "justifiable" reason for rape. Which is why I think people are gonna have a meltdown over implying Val can be.

>>151300510
>CAUSE I'M THE FUHRER
>I'M IMMENSE
>I AM THE AVATAR OF YOUR CONSEQUENCE
both lucifer's part in populi and all of vox dei are bangers

>>151300571
Is it REALLY rape if the other party willingly sold you their soul with the condition that you could totally rape them if you want to, as long as it's happening in a porn studio?

There's loopholes here, man

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>>151300510
He's so spooky

>>151300353
>HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET INTO HEAVEN?"
That reminds me, Mr. Pentium should have had to face "his" victims for his salvation to be completely satisfactory.

>>151300571
Did Valentino rape people when he was alive because isn't original sin supposed to be something you did when you're alive? Does it matter what kind of douchebag and criminal you are in Hell as long as you are commited to righting the wrongs you did when you were alive?

>>151300594
oh hell yeah, I played back Vox's part like 40 times in a row
the songs this season have (almost) all been amazing, but I am a big Voxhead so that's helping
his range as a vocalist and voice actor is just fantastic I cannot glaze him enough

another one that won't get out of my head
>NOW I'M THE MASTER
>AND YOU'RE MY BOTTOMEST BITCH
>NO MORE AL THE HIGH MIGHTY NOW THAT I FLIPPED THE SWITCH
>THOUGH THE RADIO'S GONE DEAD Y'KNOW
>THE SHOW MUST GO ON!
>BY THE TIME I'VE HAD YOU'LL WISH THAT YOU HAD STAYED. GONE.

>>151300618
he's the shiiiiiit
HE IS A LIVING ASPECT OF THE INFINITE

>>151300618
Vox should take his wings for real. It's okay, they'll grow back.

>>151300144
>>151300089
>>151300353

You also have to remember we do not know any of Val's life do we?
And Pentious killed people too all the time, it's hell, and your hell-sins aren't actual sins. His sin he did in life was just being a coward, and redemed by not being a coward(?)
Val's sin in life could be minimal and easily redeemable (or at least more sympathetic than we imagine), but he became an awful person in Hell.

>>151300541
>his abusive father
Vivzie likely won't go there, but he likely was molested.
Would explain all the faggotry and crossdressing.

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>>151300674
>Val was just a typical floridaman and is easily redeemed
>He just didn't want to because hell was just florida 2

>>151300622
I wish Viv had Adam's focus be more on this, or kept the original general of Heaven from the pitch bible who could have given this perspective to why they were against it. How is it fair to the victims of the sinners to let them up there? What if the victims don't forgive the "redeemed" sinner? These are all questions that could have been tackled if they weren't preoccupied with making Adam one-dimensional (god I wish they used Michael instead)
>>151300628
His life before is unknown so hard to say, though people are gonna judge him based on his Hell crimes. It's clear its the ORIGINAL sin that needs to be redeemed, so what >>151300674 says could very well be the case. People will be pissed either way though
>"it doesnt matter if he didnt rape in life, he raped a bunch of people in hell and that makes him a rapist NOW. how the fuck can you justify that under 'well he didnt do it when he was alive'

>>151300674
we know Val was a Florida Man
which might be enough

>>151300674
I imagine he was just a regular normal pimp. Maybe hit a bitch or two but not a megarapist like after death.

>>151300707
>"Okay Valentino, your sin was... you raped an alligator?"
>"Yes, what's the problem, bitch?"
>"... I don't know how to fix this. How did this even happen. What is wrong with you."

i pray every day val gets redeemed (or at least is on the path to it) because otherwise we're getting the most bland redemption options ever
>GUY WHO DRINKS
>GUY WHOS A SLUT
>ETC

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>>151300510
The whole song is supposed to be kind of embarrassing but 'you're acting out like you want teacher's attention" sounds so satisfying off the bat.

>>151300759
They can redeem this by having Husk's sin in life be something genuinely horrendous

>cult leader
>pimp/rapist
Why is Velvette in hell?
She seems like a bitch at worst.

>>151300771
nah I mean if you put yourself in the shoes of an average sinner who doesn't know that Lucifer can't hurt you, it's definitely still an impressive entrance
I wouldn't wanna fuck with that guy if I thought he could easily kill me

>>151300806
She makes literal rape potions in Hell, so she probably wasn't the best

>>151300806
To be fair, the bar seems pretty low to get into Hell
She probably blackmailed people all the time

>>151300806
she's basically all the worst aspects of social media personified so there's a lot of possibilities

>>151300850
not just social media but like "agent" culture in general, hollywood, models, fashion

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>>151300793
>>151300759
>Husk killed an entire family in the Summer of '62

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>velvette was the female Harvey Weinstein of her time

>>151300809
I can see her being an extremely morally corrupt businesswoman clawing her way to the top in whatever industry she was in when alive.

>>151300868
Would be really funny if he was one of the worst in his life but Viv would never risk her sweet Huskerdust money over it

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Im going to miss Vox so much in future seasons. If he doesn’t die I have the feeling he will just stay a bg character till the plot demands him back or comedic relief here and there. Redeeming him would be pretty based but the fucking fanbase will probably set itself on fire more than it already has. I hope they don’t completely scrap the Radiostatic rivalry tho love some good yaoi slop

>>151300923
I don't think that'd matter in the long run, Viv loves to torture Angel anyway. What's an added layer of more drama where Husk was more depraved in life than he initially thought. He is so hard on himself anyway I doubt Angel would even care and would still just think even if Husk was Hitler himself Angel would still think he himself is worse for killing his father.

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>angel torturewank will be 75% of season 3
oh boy!

What's all this talk about Val being a good boy? Where in that show is sparking that theory/conversation? From what I saw he was only a little miffed that Vox was being a dick and taking his whore. Is that all it is or did I forget something?

>>151300987
I don't want him to redeem himself, as a fan. I like him as a villain. I can't imagine any convincing way you could write it where anyone from the opposing side talks him down and makes him scrap ALL of this planning and momentum and go
>Aww geez guys you're right, I just wanted people to like me....I'm sorry....

Let the guy go out as the bad guy. He got a whole season to himself and he (so far) knocked it outta the park. I think keeping him around in a weakened state, or having him get redeemed, would just kind of sour everything about him as a character.

I want him to be proudly what he is up until the very end, victory or death

>>151300987
Doubt they would do the whole Voxtek website thing if they were going to write Vox out of the show or anything of the sort.

>>151301025
He's not necessarily a good boy but because the Vees have a focus, he's been shown more goofy / friendly / retarded, and generally likeable. Even has his own bonus youtube art bonus video where hes cute.
Plus the trailer scene of him reaching to Heaven and people are wondering if viv has the cock to actually go for making him redeemable

>>151300987
I like that he basically just did this to mock Sera with her full-angel flexing
Even added a little angel-style sideways eye at the top
like "big deal bitch I can do that too and I look cooler doing it"

I think in season 3, we will see Sera use Lute far more maliciously and mercilessly because Charlie refuses to have any exterminations whatsoever.
But the end will have Lute halt the strike after looking at the sinners, and Vaggie, as remnants of Adam.
Sera will probably become the fallen angel to meet Lucifer face-to-face.

>>151301025
Val isn't a good boy but this season has leaned on his goofy side more, and added vulnerability to him by being clearly jealous of the attention Alastor is getting from Vox. The recent Val drawing tutorial video also showcased Vox's and Val's relationship being more wholesome than expected. It's just unexpected that he would get this kind of development when he has been so reviled by the fanbase for being an abuser of a "fan favorite" character and a rapist to boot.

>>151300793
>>151300868
I always imagined him as a 'Nam vet.
Probably wiped out villages and shit.

>>151301064
>>151301120
Ah, I see. Le hecking wholesome rapist

>the ultimate angelangstwank will be when val gets redeemed before him

>Alastor's plan really is just to sit back and let Vox overtake him as the strongest sinner so his deal with Rosie becomes void
>Alastor somehow keeps his power anyway and Vox gets defeated so Alastor is back to #1
is that REALLY gonna be it? it's that simple?

>>151300987
He and the Vees will stick around and wind up in several background gags at least. Valentino for sure will remain somewhat important until Angel Dust deals with him, potentially next season. Radiostatic will probably fade, though. There isn't anything else to do there.

Is there a sinner more OP than Vox based on ability alone? The dude is fucking stacked when it comes to powers.

>>151301215
going from star-of-the-show villains to background gag characters is a fate worse than death

>>151298777
>11 years ago
oof

>>151301223
Maybe Zestial but he never actually does anything so it's fine

>>151301205
Yes I think it really will be. One of the only semi-cliffhangers of this season will probably be what the hell full power, no strings Alastor really means. I get the feeling he'll downplay and come back to the hotel like it's no big deal because he has higher plans for Charlie or whoever.

>>151299038
Id shut up about this show having awful writing if this actually happens

Zestial will continue to win by doing absolutely nothing

>>151301205
Imagine if Vees catch onto Alastor trying to manipulate them.

Anons are complaining now but you’re going to miss Vox when season 3 rolls around and it’s 90% Angel wank.

>>151301253
>I get the feeling he'll downplay and come back to the hotel like it's no big deal because he has higher plans for Charlie or whoever.
Yeah, that's the smart thing, don't tip your hand and all that
Of course, right around this time Rosie mysteriously disappears
I wonder what happened to her, must have gone on a long vacation or something

>>151301260
this
we already know angel dusts family is appearing AND angel leaves the hotel
we're getting
>lilith angst wank (muh bad mommy)
>angel angst wank (muh bad family)
for 8 episodes

>>151301215
Val will gain the reins of what's left of Vee power when Vox is smacked down and take his frustration out on Angel Dust who's now around him full time just in time for Angel's family to play a role. They may give Velvette something to do too but yeah Vox will be done beyond gags.

>>151301258
hey apparently it's worked for thousands of years so he's doing something right

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>>151301260
>It's going to be 6+ songs that are all Angel Dust as the main singer

>>151301290
I'll put a sharpie in my butthole after writing Valentino on my ass if this happens

>>151301310
big blue tv claws wrote this post

So uh why doesn’t Charlie just ask Heaven to make Valentino break his contract with Angel Dust as his punishment?

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viv isn't brave enough to do it isn't she

>>151301347
ermmm that would be errmmmmm
angel has to be tortured for 4 seasons before he becomes redeemed okay???

>>151301290
He and Lucifer will compete for most songs.

>>151301370
I don’t care for it. Vox is black hair is too burned into my mind.

>>151301370
Viv is exactly retarded and unsubtle enough to make this real
>make hell great again
>i'm the """"furor""""

>>151301347
Honestly I dont think we've ever seen Charlie opposed to the idea of contract slavery at all.
I'd laugh if she actually is very supportive of it.

>We're at the end of the season, and the only one who has done anything to stop Vox instead of being useless or making things worse is Alastor.
Fucking hell, the hotel really is screwed without him

>>151301395
Alastor knows Vox like the back of his hand and there isn’t a moment where he feels threatened by him.

Vox is the most based villain simply for the fact he told the angels to hang themselves

>>151301411
>WE'RE PUTTING THE ANGELS ON TRAINS
what did he mean by this?

I wonder if Sera is the one that will go berserk in season 3 and she takes advantage of Lute’s distress, including showing Lute exactly how Adam dies.

Because of Sera’s abuses on Lute and the exorcist operation getting lifted open, she ironically is the one that gets casted to hell, expected to live in the Hotel with Lucifer.

>>151301431
VoxTek! Trust US with your transportation!

VoxTek(tm) angel oven

>>151301205
>Defeated Vox crawls back to Vee tower
>Alastor emerges from the shadows and rends his soul and tosses him into the radio waves like he did other overlords
>Running gag moving forward is Valentino and Velvette carrying around and struggling to tune an old radio so Vox can talk to them and others

>>151301205
>>151299956
this is what I think is prob gonna happen desu

>>151300594
I especially love Sera's expression during this part
>Ah...I have fucked up

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>>151301568

>>151301494
>Alastor emerges from the shadows and rends his soul and tosses him into the radio waves like he did other overlords
I love Vox and hate Alastor but this is 100% what needs to happen

>>151301205
>>151301253
How does this get Alastor free from his deal with Vox though?

>>151301450
>Zestial is Cain
>Cain is in love with Carmilla, THE SUPPLIER of angelic weapons.
>Sera can review the lives of sinners to identify them, unlike Lute
>Sera will use this to manipulate Abel to kill Cain’s newfound family

SERA WILL GET A VILLAIN SONG, AND PATRICK STUMP WILL SING IN IT!

Season 3 is going to be soooo fucking awesome.

>>151299789
Vox told the massive crowd when Lu tried to punch him and failed. I'd be surprised if Alastor didn't know by the end of that episode.

>>151301604
That is easier, just make him touch Charlie

>>151300510
https://youtu.be/WhhnM7bxKDg?si=AsVEq0tffZ6A5K3L

>>151301635
Nah, he didn't really tell them
He made it look like Lucifer pulled his punch on purpose
He didn't say
>You CAN'T can you?
he said
>You WON'T

>>151301347
Probably something about free will

I'M THE HOMO
I'M THE GAY

Emily should rape Alastor

>>151301606
Where does the 'Zestial is Cain' theory come from? It kinda just seemed to originate from the fact that he's old, and that's it. Wouldn't it make more sense for Cain to still be alive wandering on Earth?

>>151301644
>That is easier, just make him touch Charlie
This will be so fucking stupid but it's also 100% going to happen.

>>151301777
>Wouldn't it make more sense for Cain to still be alive wandering on Earth?
Nah, Cain died eventually. All of his descendants were cursed but he did eventually die like any other man does.
By the time of The Flood he's long dead, it's his descendants who spoiled the Earth, and then all of them die in the Flood too so even if he was still alive, he would've died then

but Cain can be whatever they want him to be, I guess
no real hard rules here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbY2QxO5m4E

>>151301826
>>151301644
>Charlie does her big "let's all make peace" song and offers her hand to Vox
>he slaps it away
>that counts, he touched her
calling it

>>151301886
I'd forgive the show if this was true

really looking forward to the inevitable "Alastor Unchained" musical number
you just know they're going to go hard with that one

>>151301881
Cain’s descendants were the victims of pre-flood world and their deaths are tied to the flood.

>>151301911
Leak: he unchains his chastity cage on his penis

>>151301886
Nah I think Charlie is going to get very close to stopping Vox and Vox will have almost no choice but to attack her directly. That, or Charlie is going to be caught up in the attack of the "superweapon" that we're going to see in the next few episodes.

>>151298067
>Is Vox the main character now?
The show would be actually good if that was the case, so clearly he's not there yet.

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>>151298067
I think he's the protagonist of this season in the same way that people said Thanos was the protagonist of Infinity War

>>151301938
>Cain’s descendants were the victims of pre-flood world
Well yeah they were specifically cursed and cast out, that's what I said
>and their deaths are tied to the flood
that's...also what I said
they died in the flood, yes

>>151301955
I completely agree

>>151301644
She's going to grab his hand to save him. Deal broken.

>>151301949
>the next few episodes
unfortunately, "few" would mean at least 3
we have 2 more
2 more fuckin episodes to wrap all of this up

I want whoever said "8 episode seasons are fine" tried for war crimes

>>151301972
Techincally that'd be HER laying a hand on HIM
that was the specific language of the deal, remember
>You're not to lay your hands on Charlie Morningstar
there are some potential loopholes here

>>151301956
> that's...also what I said
>they died in the flood, yes
No. Reread the story and revelations.
The marked belong to God, and when they are killed, God applies them to his wrath for the floods.

The line of Cain were killed off by the wicked. And then the flood happened.

>>151301826
It's literally the main term of Alastor side of the deal...

Did you know that the Speaker implied that Sera will talk to Lucifer at some point?

>>151301991
it's Revelation, singular
but yeah you might be right I'll have to re-read it
I sometimes get confused and mix in apocrypha with the actual current official bible

>>151301260
>on one hand there will be more angelwank
>on the other hand it'll also focus on heaven and the morningstar family giving both lucifer and lute more singing chances
eh it kind of evens out i guess

>>151298067
the deltarune effect

tumblrites can't get enough of anthropomorphic tv head creatures

>>151302018
> apocrypha
Those books always had the stupidest things ever.
It makes up the most wild Cain and nephilim fanfics ever. It forgets that Cain’s family took so many generations to get kids that made a harp, tents, and proper metal mastery. Lamech was attacked by two pricks that didn’t fear God and believe in his justice.

>>151301568
>>151301573
She’s going to be a bad girl in season 3. The Vees have pushed her limits and mercy away.

>>151302088
>Those books always had the stupidest things ever.
>It makes up the most wild Cain and nephilim fanfics ever
yeah but c'mon, they're kinda fun

>>151302066
>the pants farting effect
qrd

>>151301777
>Wouldn't it make more sense for Cain to still be alive wandering on Earth?
Cain's mark does not make him immortal, and he's generally seen as having died about the same time Adam did(roughly 700 years before the flood).
>>151301991
>The marked belong to God, and when they are killed, God applies them to his wrath for the floods.
The only one who was actually marked was Cain, and he was dead significantly earlier.

>>151302012
Yes but it makes Vox out to be a retarded faggot for falling for Alastor's bait so easily

So much for Hazbin being the woman centered of the two shows

>>151302150
Vox has always been like that. His introduction to the series literally consisted of scolding Valentino for getting angry easily, only to get even more upset when he saw that Alastor had returned, and then humiliating himself by trying to make Alastor look bad.

>>151301991
>>151302088
>Apocrypha making up stupid shit
>While using Revelations as gospel
Revelations is basically a popular piece of apocrypha that lucked its way into the bible because it was assumed to be the work of John the disciple, despite even people at the time being fairly convinced it wasn't.

>>151302134
> and he was dead significantly earlier.
There is no death record of him on the book.
> The only one who was actually marked was Cain,
God brought in Lamech to make it a case that this isn’t true. And you have suspicious things of Seth’s line seemingly picking names based on Cain’s line and city (Enoch).

>>151302213
>God brought in Lamech to make it a case that this isn’t true
Lamech kills people to make a case that his own punishment is 10-fold that of what God would visit on Cain's killer.
Only Cain is marked with God's protection.

>>151302183
Vox can get angry sure, but it was to no detriment to himself getting angry in private with Valentino. He easily kept his cool when Lucifer confronted him for instance. Vox is supposed to be quite intelligent and Idk it just seems dumb that he would attack Charlie knowing it would set Alastor free. I guess we'll have to see the circumstances first though. What actually WOULD be kind of interesting is if the Charlie condition is a red herring, and that Alastor gets free due to the second condition, to let Husk and Nifty go free. Maybe if they're caught up in some attack it breaks the deal, maybe Alastor even will knowingly sacrifice one of them?

>>151298777
Latina genetics.

>>151300198
https://www.tiktok.com/@cheese_d00dz/video/7443618355237489950

>>151302258
Charlie would basically have to be going super saiyan and about to kill him or something
at that point it's better to survive and let Alastor go free
priorities

but I don't think that's what's going to happen

>>151302302
the path to forgiveness is a twisting trail of hearts

truly

>>151302258
It's abundantly clear that Alastor is his weak point and he never got over his one sided crush. He'd probably keep his cool in front of God himself while blushing and blabbering like a schoolgirl if Alastor showed him an ankle

>>151299977
>>151300001
>He's a rapist and abuser
AND he's completely and utterly unapologetic about it.
come on people, there HAS to be a reason one redeems itself, it's not a god damn coinflip

I want Alastor humiliation ritual to continue.
I hate this smug prick always trying to act all mighty and scary.

>>151301666
>666
nice
also great cover honestly

>you think rebellion makes you hot, makes you swell
>BUT BABY I INVENTED THE CONCEPT OF "GO TO HELL"
that's just killer

>>151302302
kek, I was half-expecting the Hitler one and it caught me off guard

>>151302256
> Lamech kills people to make a case that his own punishment is 10-fold that of what God would visit on Cain's killer.
Anon, the whole point of Lamech was to show that mankind was beginning to be Godless and no longer feared the Lord.

The mark of Cain is about the entire line. And in Lamech’a case, he had multiple children that were making massive establishments that were for worshipping God when those two men attacked him.

Why do you miss the point this much????

>>151302327
it
starts
with
sorry

>>151302113
The problem is that the guys who compiled the bible only wanted the boring shit with no sideplots because they were afraid of spinoff religions (which ended up happening anyway).
In any case Mormons believe Cain is alive in America since one of the early ones saw an absolutely gigantic black man on a road in Tennessee who could be none other than him.

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>>151298777
Is anyone else having issue where links wont open on youtube from here?

Also i still would fuck vivzie because im into fat chicks

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This is where season 1 peaked btw.

>>151302348
Oh yes, because Solomon is a very boring dude. It’s not like his father killed giants and had the biggest family drama ever.

>>151302339
the best thing is
he humiliates Vox more because it's obvious how much influence Alastor has over him.
other vees see it and are visibly worried because he stokes his ambition to Icarus's levels.
Alastor has made the strongest sinner out of person most vulnerable to his manipulations.

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>>151302357
I liked Alastor's breakdown in his radio tower in the finale. I want more unhinged Alastor

Vox asking Charlie if she thought HE could be redeemed may be a foreshadowing instead of just a villain move. In the flashback with Alastor it shows Vox deep down is probably masking deep insecurities and his obsession with Alastor reflects his need for approval. Vox being redeemed would be a stunner that proves again Charlie's beliefs on another level. I don't know how it would happen, and I don't think it's likely, but it would be an earth shattering event. If every seasonal antagonist gets perma-killed in the final episode it will get predictable real fast.

>>151302346
we're not even there.
it starts with introspection
when with self-judgment
THEN you ask sorry
after that it's the actual redemption.

we're at step 0 here people. he absolutely fucking loves being a rapist.

redemption is not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBZyVjUiDIA but with typing sorry

>>151302357
>has angelic weapons at his disposal
>doesn't use them
gimping yourself against an archangel is crazy work

>>151302377
Nah, see, I'm pretty sure that it starts with Sorry
I specifically remember hearing that that's where it starts

>>151302377
but hell sins dont count
if he didnt rape when alive and did something less bad that he WOULD apologize for, its ok
pentious never repented for building murder machines and misses it even in heaven

>>151302378
That's what you get when you think you're hot shit and can take on a heavyweight champ because you were the best boxer in your small-town gym.
Absolutely deserved BTFOing. Fuck Alastor.

>>151302378
Feom his dialogue with Rose it seems that Alastor actually thought he could take Adam. And with what we know about Alastor do you think he would have even tried if he wasn't sure of himself?

>Pentious
>Only ever proven case of Redemption
>started with Sorry
anons of the jury I rest my case

>>151302388
>if he didnt rape when alive and did something less bad that he WOULD apologize for, its ok
he's a florida man. i'm sorry anon, that's actually worse

>>151302378
Yeah but just think of the prestige if he had actually pulled it off

>>151302405
its over he will NEVER go to heaven

>>151302389
What's crazy is that Alastor didn't even put up a good fight. At no point was Adam in any actual danger, and at most he was mildly annoyed. The second Adam got serious he took Alastor out instantly and even allowed him to escape because he had him clocked as weak.

>>151302327
>there HAS to be a reason one redeems itself
Maybe he actually cares for Angeldust in a weird, twisted way. He didn't seem to happy about Vox using him, and he is obsessed and possesive of him throughout the show.

>>151301606
If Zestial is Cain it would mean Alastor's deal to be the strongest sinner in hell makes him stronger than Cain which would be kind of a surprise.

>Only Pentious scared Adam enough to mega ultra rape blast him
>Pentiou doesn't even want to be in Heaven because he wants pussy
Is he based?

>>151302425
My gut tells me that Angel isn't nearly as innocent as people think in that relationship and they both kind of "love" each other in a really fucked up co-dependent way
that probably changed into the outright abusive relationship we have now whenever their Deal came into place

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Angel was just a willing accomplice for a very long time

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I've said before that I want Alastor to just be a purely evil bastard but now I've come around to the idea of him staying as a kind of anti-hero. Whether that means redemption or not, I don't think I want him to be the ultimate villain of the series at the end

>>151302435
Yes.

You know, I wonder how much of grudge Abel will have for him since Cain allowed Carmilla to indirectly kill their dad. And Sera can show him this to drive him mad.

>>151302435
I don't see why Cain would necessarily be that strong, the original murderer yes, but still just that. Just a murderer.
And bible scholars weigh in here but wasn't Cain eventually remorseful? I don't remember the story being that he was proud of what he did in the long run

>>151302445
he's like Xellos from Slayers
technically completely evil and has his own ultimate ambitions that would fuck over the entire main cast
but still part of the main cast and an ally/fan favorite

>>151302450
> I don't see why Cain would necessarily be that strong, the original murderer yes, but still just that. Just a murderer.
He had to in order to survive hell.

>>151302468
to be fair it's pretty nebulous how the average sinner would actually go about "growing their power"

>>151302442
>both kind of "love" each other in a really fucked up co-dependent way
I definitely get that vibe too.

>>151302450
Sinners gaining power in hell in this series is due to getting it through subjugating people as overlords right? Makes sense the guy who's been doing it the longes would be the most powerful even if discounting any damage reflection powers from the mark.

>>151302472
yeah like is everyone just forgetting that Angel was introduced as a crackhead who fucks randos on the street for fun?
sure NOW the show acts like it's his job and he doesn't like doing it, but he totally does
he USED TO at least

the Angel we were originally introduced would absolutely be Valentino's willing pimp and not think twice about it because who cares, he's on CRACK

>>151302470
I think it's implied that owning another Sinners soul adds their power to yours. Contractees fuel the abilities of the contractors, if you will.

>>151302480
well see, that's the assumption, because we know how ALASTOR moved once he got into Hell
but Vox took a lot longer, Alastor says
>You had your good ideas, you were growing your power
but Vox was still a little CRT babby-antenna-head qt3.14 back then. Now he can become an electric angel-man from Evangelion with a giant mecha shark on top just to flex
Does this all just come from a generic meta of "influence"?

Alastor does complain to Rosie that
>my name inspires far less fear
so maybe it's just based on perception
Like if people think you're strong, you are (that would be another Slayers parallel and I'm starting to notice a lot of them)

>>151302482
Also:

Angel died in the 40s
Val died in the 70s

Angel was probably giving coked out handies in alleys for fun pre-Val

>>151302496
Apparently we're just ignoring how long you've actually been in Hell since I've seen so many people describe Huskerdust as an "age-gap relationship"
kek

>>151302439
Cherri's cherries are massive. I can't blame him.

>>151302357
Watching this live with anons was fun, I laughed REALLY hard at that part.

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>Be Adam
>Heaven says you need a wife again (again)
>Refuse
>Heaven does it anyway
>Heaven asks you to mate with her
>Refuse
>Heaven makes a huge pile of children anyways and makes them girls to spite you

>>151302494
I gotta say I had a good chuckle in Season 1 when Alastor starts attention-whoring
>I know, I know, I've been gone for some time, I'm sure you've ALL been wondering-"

and then Carmilla just shuts him down with
>Not really. But welcome back in any case.

>>151302512
This is Hell.

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>vox gets redeemed
>fixes his racism as there's less people to be racist against in heaven (80% white)
kino

>>151302442
Hasn't it already been suggested that Angel loved Val and took the deal with him because of it? Maybe I'm just delusional. I definitely think they've had "nice" moments beyond the abuse, like every abusive relationship, and that's why Vox is so bitter.

>>151302494
Alastor is a special case since he was strong right off the bat due to a deal he made while alive so he didn't actually need to grow his power, on top of that his own deal should ensure he's more powerful than any other overlord even if he just NEETs out in his tower. The only reason to be an "official overlord" is that he just likes to be known and feared.

>>151302515
Yeah, you just know he would gut Carmilla and Zestial if he wasn't under Rosie's command

gotta keep up that smile

>>151302482
It makes even more sense if you've been in a fucked up destructive relationship. I look at my first ex now and think I would feel nothing but relief if she were dead, but we used to go through cycles of obsession and violence. I'd say I had to get away and mean it, but then plunge right back in even though I knew we'd eventually end up tearing each other down again. It was a vicious cycle, and crack wasn't even involved. I can totally see Angel and Val having a good time together when nobody from the Hotel is looking.

>>151302496
>Angel is significantly older than Val
Woof, I think I need to take a step back to process this information.

>>151302539
It'd make the abuse way more impactful if we got cute scenes of them together and then blasted with abuse later, desu
But then someone would cry about it

>>151302496
Oh my godddd

>>151302551
Agreed.

>>151302539
Yep, thin line between love and hate, been there too
Hell it doesn't even have to be a sexual or romantic relationship, friendships can become that destructive

>>151300510
The soundtrack version adds this demonic, multilayered filter/distortion over Lucifer's voice starting with the King of Hell line that I wish made it into the show. Maybe they wanted more pure vocals in the actual episode, but it does sound cool and menacing. Definitely something Lucifer might employ to not look totally neutered and impotent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRkiMyv3q7k

>>151302582
oh yeah that sounds 1000 times better what the fuck

>>151302520
>Vox gets redeemed
>there are no brown women to fuck in heaven

Truly the worst fate for him.

>>151302445
>I am part of that power which eternally wills evil and eternally works good
This is how he currently works.
Best thing for the hotel and Charlie was him getting captured by Vox.

>>151302598
>women
Good one

>>151302598
Men, anon. Vox as a bashful, blushing schoolboy for brown MEN.

>>151302551
>>151302539
From what I remember in the flashback scenes in Poison there are moments where Angel looked genuinely happy to be there. Abusive relationships rarely start out abusive, it snowballs over time and by the time it gets "really bad" they're in too deep. Abusers also usually aren't awful 24/7, and the memories of the good times and the guilt surrounding it are what makes it so hard to leave.

>>151302598
This man dumb

>>151302537
Zestial is naturally threatening without Rosie’s involvement.

>>151298351
I think part of the problem is that Charlie has not only failed to accomplish anything with her screentime, but has become an active detriment to her own goals.

I'll say it

I think Angel should be the reason Val got into being more fucked up in Hell and eventually became the abuser

>>151298361
>Bliz/Stolas
Mother of God, of all the examples you had to choose from you went with that?

>>151302665
this. angel was there longer and they fell in love and made each other worse (starting with angel making val worse$

>>151302665
>>151302676
>Angel actually groomed Val
Viv doesn't have the BALLS

>>151302664
Charlie’s only point of existence is staging an arena for Lilith and Adam plots.

>>151302665
How fucked up would it be if Val was originally a rather nice pimp, but Angel kept telling him to be rougher and “hit me harder daddy” and it just devolved from there.

>>151302685
Unfortunately because it'd be the ultimate Angel Torture to have him realize he created this monster

ite crazy how much less sexy val is when he takes off the wingcoat

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>vox wants to take over heaven
>can't even get past gatekeeper peter

>>151302746
>Nah, I'd win

>>151302701
Do it, Vivziepop.

>>151302609
>>151302624
He swings both ways.

Just started watching. Why's the newswoman suddenly voiced by a dude?

>>151302783
i literally skip katies scenes or put them on mute and read subtitles due to that

>>151302801
Other than that, season 2 seems a lot better than season 1. They've really got that pilot energy back. I'm only 3 minutes in though.

>>151302746
>sees Sinner army approaching
> “ooh boy, somebody better call Jesus…”
>draws his sword
>”…he’s gonna be reattaching a LOT of ears today!”

>>151302676
>angel was there longer
I always wondered what Angel did for 30 years before Val even showed up. Maybe he hung out with his family. You would think he's a little less naive to how hell works by that time.

So according to anons when Vox spawned into Hell he didn’t have any of his powers and had to get them along the way like a skill tree?

>>151302838
I mean, I'd assume it involved guns. You don't learn to shoot that well just jerking dicks off.

>>151302829
Is that why none of the characters have ears?

>>151302853
You start at level 0 according to an old viv quote and get souls
So probably. Whatever that means
You must have some basic abilities based on your form though

>>151302878
His true form is literally an electric current though so how does that work.

>>151302878
>You start at level 0 according to an old viv quote and get souls
...huh, what if Alastor's bargain was literally just being given an upfront investment of souls the moment he was damned to Hell and presumably landed in Rosie's domain? That's why he's so powerful. That's why he has literal strings on him. They're just like the leashes he uses on his own soul contracts, but from souls that technically belong to Rosie before she gave them to Alastor-whether as a snack or just as property, like Husk's cards.

>>151302853
>>151302878
>tfw no Hazbin tie-in game where you create your own sparkledog sinner and gradually enthrall the souls of Hell to become its preeminent overlord

>>151302900
>Get to put Alastor AND Vox on leashes
>Maybe even Lucifer if you figure out the secret route that reveals he can't fight back
I'm a straight man, but the idea of making literally ALL the main character sparkledogs bend the knee to you sounds hilarious. And judging from how the show goes Vivzie just might be into that too.

>>151302918
Bringing up your a straight man for no reason doesn’t make you sound straight

>>151302341
That line was fucking badass. If it happened in the show, Vox’s whole career would have been over with. .

Yeah, That guy’s Satan song was good too.

Charlie is for rape and ryona

>>151302956
Agreed!

people started making covers of lucifer's part in vox populi
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhhnM7bxKDg

I wonder if Lucifer created the Goetia so they can harm Sinners for him.
Like no sinners ever fucked with him for thousands of years because he had an entire noble caste of super demons serving him.

>>151302746
honestly if Vivzie makes Peter as strong as or stronger than Adam, or makes it so the Pearly Gates are just a bug zapper to sinner that they can't get past, I will take back everything bad I've said about this series

>>151302890
>His true form is literally an electric current though
is it though? just because we see him turn into an electric current doesn't mean that's what he really is, it could be one of the greater powers he's achieved through all the souls he has

>>151303011
The problem is that those stay out of pride ring so it won't help Lucifee.

>>151302942
Being a straight man is like being a woman, if you have to say it you ain't it.

>>151298067
Feels like Vox is the only one with functional brain cells + a modicum of power over others.

Otherwise its 90% Charlie making the stupidest decisions possible and not learning anything when she fucks up.

>>151302895
My current headcanon is that his soul is somehow connected to the pride ring as a whole and his power comes from the souls just being there

>>151302769
>>151302746
>THROUGHOUT HEAVEN AND HELL I ALONE AM THE DOOR GUY

>say Velvette is a lesbian
>never gave her show any attraction to any other female

I swear Viv just did it because she didn’t like that people thought her, Vox and Val were a threesome and didn’t want yucky vagina in her fujoship.

>>151302746
>the goofy twink is actually extremely powerful
I like this.

>>151302878
I sometimes think that Alastor may have been better off in the long-term if he just spawned in at level 0 as you said
He had a deep knowledge of voodoo and occult stuff apparently while he was still alive, which I assume would grant him some Starting RPG Bonuses
Plus he was a very prolific serial killer, which has to amount to something right? Surely the worse of a sinner you were in life, the stronger you are in Hell as a Sinner. I'd assume that's how it should work.

>A guy who's genuniely evil, has killed dozens of people, and is capable of contacting Hell in real life
vs
>Me, some anon
I think I know who's gonna be more powerful off the bat when they spawn in Hell

>>151303026
doesnt stolas live in pride????? his job is directly connected to matters of the living world. its less common but there ARE goetia that live in the pride ring.

well at least before he lost his job

>>151302890
that's like saying Alastor's true form is shadows

>>151303077
they already did this with stolas before he got fired and lost his daughter. porn brained goofy twink.

>>151302947
>If it happened in the show, Vox’s whole career would have been over with. .
real

>>151303093
What? Leaks show Vox is literally the electric creature in the picture. Alastor’s shadow is a part of him but Vox’s true form is electricity and he made his current body. It’s not the same.

>>151302979
yeah it got posted earlier and it's honestly REALLY GOOD
no I didn't make it
I can't sing : (

>>151298168
I will miss the vees
i do not care about anyone else in this show so i will probably not watch much of season 3 if theyre not around

>>151303111
it's AI tho
still, it holds
I want proper luci reprise when he is unshackled (maybe as a duo with also unshackled alastor)

>>151303077
still the best laugh the show has gotten out of me is when Charlie showed up and asked him to look under "Lucifer Morningstar" in the book
>Oh...oh FUCK
>YEAAAHHH

>>151303119
>it's AI
what the fuck
AI is getting too powerful and was probably a mistake

So Lilith started empowering Sinners to rise up and had protests and shit 7 years ago right?
The question is why though? Until Lilith’s rebellion it sounds like Heaven was content to just ignore Hell completely, it’s only after she started shit did they start using Exterminations to weaken Hell.

>>151303112
Here's what's GOING to happen based on TV show logic
>Vox is defeated and depowered but not killed or redeemed (though that possibility is teased)
>he's trapped in a little oldschool TV or some shit
>Val and Vel become Team Rocket for a while
>Val ends up getting a lot of development via Angel Dust in Season 3
>Vel is sidelined and all her fans can eat shit
don't shoot me I'm just the messenger of common sense

>>151303136
Vox being trapped in the hotel’s TV and showing up to insult the main cast and hating them despite being powerless is too kino for Viv.

>>151303141
>Vox being trapped in the hotel’s TV
I hadn't even considered this possibility
fund it
make it happen

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>>151302746
>>151303077
You don't fuck with the gatekeeper.

>>151303152
>What's on TV?
>"Every channel is literally Hitler"

>>151302435
I wouldn't take Medrano's mentally retarded Tumblr+Disney Family Guy writing seriously. If anything Family Guy would give a shit more about world design and power systems than Medrano does.

Alastor was supposed to make a deal with Lilith or The Root of all Evil, not a random voodoo zombie secondary.
But Medrano bogs her down cause "Why the fuck would the root of evil attempt to help the princess of Hell"
Notice how they completely ignored Lilith this season. Medrano is a mental retard.

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>>151303099
it's always funny to me how everyone in the west hates him but japan practically adores him.

>>151303172
/co/ isn't "the west"

>>151303152
Again it’s too kino but it would be the perfect way to render him powerless, punish him, and still keep him on the show

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Okay just had a realization...
In Season one and in the pilot it was said Alastor killed tons of ancient Overlords of Hell before the series begun.
Since sinner can't die permanently from other sinners. I imagined he must have used weapon leftovers from the past exterminations to perma-kill them.
But then we got said this season that the exterminations had been going on for just 7 years.
Ergo Angelic Steel had not been common stuff or present at all in hell for millenia before very recently.
So either Alastor didn't kill them and they are imprisoned somewhere else.

I was thinking also of the possibility of Alastor somehow getting his hands on angelic steel way before the exterminations began.

>>151303172
>japan doesn't like the tranny
based

>>151303172
Do the colors mean anything?

>>151303200
Her and Vox are the only two characters with any brain this season.

>>151303172
I like how nobody put any of the dots on their pictures. I certainly would give them wobbly eyes.

>>151303210
It's a shame the deer makes Vox lose all brain cells.

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>be me
>enjoy the show but not overtly so
>just think the animation is good and the songs are great, story is whatever and don't much care about shipping
>wake up at 5AM hearing myself uttering "oh lute" irl after a dream featuring her
guys, i think i might be cringe. what do?

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i feel like a lot of charlie's stupidity can be excused if this show was given more room to breathe and properly show charlie's growth. she's clearly supposed to be this naive and sheltered princess, but since the plot is moving faster than she can, she's still stuck being naive and making stupid decisions

>>151303226
Enjoy the dreams. Maybe it's your guardian angel, happy that you are on the right side of the holy war. Have you slayed any demons with Lute, or were you just supportive of your dream angelwife after she returned back home from difficult day at work? Either is fine, just don't lust over demons.

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>>151301160
I made a small short story that delves into it. I also have this kitty sinner as someone Husk talks to in that story

>>151301644
Feel like it's going to be something like
>Vox clinging on to something, about to be sucked into some vortex
>Charlie: Take my hand!
>Vox does that
>Vox: Wait-Oh fuck shit damnit FUCK

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they did the meme

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>>151303234
i spent the following 30 minutes laying in bed playing therapist with her in my head trying to make her come to term with adam's death

How many of you started regretting your sins and will try to seek redemption in life? Don't make Charlie's work more difficult, accept Jesus Christ as your savior now and avoid the hard work in Hell.

>>151303251
Sometime the angels need an angel too, be nice to her, check on her if she is fine and be supportive. Your Lute can perform the best if she feels valued.

>>151303191
they said the broadcasts were the sounds of those overlords souls being ripped apart
somehow alastor is able to do that

I don't think you come back from that