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>>152856752Oh shit, it's happening. DC is finally doing what we want. This better not be bait like every time Marvel almost undoes OMD.
>>152856752Nah. I don't buy it. Not for a second. They're going to send kid Jon back to the past.
>>152856768I remind you we have Supergirl and Power Girl at the same time. This is the exact same thing.
>>152856631Was this the thing superman had to do as a god before coming back?
>>152856752>Kid Jon is back>Damian is around 14/15 >There's still an age gapEh, Supersons still isn't coming back.
>>152856752>Superman gets both a Nightwing and a SonGood shit.
>>152856782NO NO NO NO NO.I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AND IT WON'T FUCKING WORK ON ME.
>>152856782To play devil's advocate for a minute here, I'd argue that Powergirl sorta got grandfathered in after Infinite Crisis. Unless they're willing to bend editorial mandate, it's hard to believe that they're willing to walk back something that Bendis did during Didio's orders.
>>152856739The continuity for this is absolutely wack>Unlimited #9-10 has a Jon Kent subplot that leads directly into this issue, which takes place concurrently to when Superman is around>But Unlimited #11 is a Reign of the Superboys tie-in, and that takes place post-DC K.O., when Superman is gone>New Titans #33 is also post-DC K.O., and Jon is also still Superman in thatSo when the hell is this meant to take place?
>>152856752Watch, they'll pull a Batte of the Atom and claim that they can't send kid Jon back to his past because Hypertime has already fixed that version with a temporal duplicate in its place, but contradict themselves later on and send him back in time like what Teen Cable did to remove the gimmick of putting younger versions of existing characters in modern continuity.
>>152856928I think it could work... somewhat.You could have two versions of Jon: One that went through the Volcano trip, and the other that didn't. That version would lack the experiences of that trauma and may develop into a new and better personality than the one that we got stuck with thanks to Bendis.I can see it working since Supergirl and Power Girl exist simultaneously but both Clark and Lois would have to contend with the fact that they'll have two versions of the same son and not like, twins because it's very different.
>>152856729>>152856732This was so unexpected and extremely hot, finally Jon got his shirtless action moment. Bless Meyer for the great art, and I can’t believe I’m saying this but thanks Slott for writing this scene, great issue.
>>152856752Yeah, there's no freaking way some 5th-dimensional imp with a hate boner for Jon would just show up, mess with him using some tacky 'behold the terror of the future, me-boy' routine, lose, and suddenly decide to gift him his younger self as a reward for beating his ass. There has to be a drawback. A catch ther— WAIT. I SEE IT. I CAN SEE THE FUTURE. THAT GREMLIN.HE HAS FULL CONTROL OF YOUNG JON, WHICH RESULTS IN HIM AND FUTURE JON FIGHTING. YOUNG JON IS DRIVEN BY THE SHEER DESIRE NOT TO GO BACK TO THAT HORRIBLE, LONELY, BURNING PLANET. THEY FIGHT. BUT THEN FUTURE JON MAKES A PROMISE. A PROMISE THAT THEY CAN BOTH BE TOGETHER. TWO JONS, ONE WORLD.BUT SUDDENLY... OH... Oh.... oh no. Young Jonathan Kent is aged up again. That imp.... that imp is Bendis. THAT IMP IS BENDIS AND HE CAME TO FUCK WITH US.
>>152856876Bendis got cucked from having kid Jon have a cute alien GF because the editorial wanted to make Conner a tranny, a nd they aged him and made him a faggot tranny fucker hated by everyone.
>>152856752Bait
>>152856752I'm not falling for it.Never again.
>>152856752I actually do think they're gonna get bring back Kid Jon while getting rid of Adult Jon because that's the most hack move you could do.
>>152856816Time will just fix itself and Jon will become like 13 off-screen, like what happened with Wally's kids, they went from little kids to teens.
>>152856752>Jon Kent will not be deaged
>>152857639I mean kid jon should be around 11-12 at this time anyway.
>>152856752Someone predicted DC would do exactly this, and now that this could actually be the new status quo, I don't even mind.
>>152857652Kid jon is straight, old jon is a fagKid jon gets a loli alien GF and old jon is still a fagKid jon will do at least i do not suck cocks towards his old self, with old jon saying that he does because it is a option being a faggot for it is a state of mind and spirit.Kid jon still calls his old self a faggot with a tranny groomer boyfriend.
>>152857736Ok but doesn't the loli alien gf be like 15 atp? Feel like people would complain about the age gap and also let not forget Jon ghosted her for a long while.
>>152857639>Kid Jon has to learn that Damian already has a girlfriend >Kid Jon has to learn that Damian already has a new set of friends
>>152856752They're gonna kill the younger Jon.
>new Jon Kent status quo
>>152856887Superman books take priority for Superman characters, I assume the Titans office simply weren't informed what they were doing with Jon.
>>152856767It's bait dude...
>>152857786Eh, DC almost never remembers any of Damian's friends that aren't Jon.
>>152856752Not feeling safe until both Didio and Johns are dead and buried.
>>152856631variant covers for this issue:Superman Unlimited #11 Cover B Bruno Redondo VariantSuperman Unlimited #11 Cover C Rachta Lin VariantSuperman Unlimited #11 Cover D Lucio Parrillo VariantSuperman Unlimited #11 Cover E Symbol Virgin VariantSuperman Unlimited #11 Cover F Skylar Patridge Corner Box Spot Foil Virgin VariantSuperman Unlimited #11 Cover G ACO Reign of the Superboys Connecting Variant>Little (super) boy lost! Tomorrow Man has a shocking surprise for Lois Lane. His name is Jon Kent, and he's just a little boy. The Reign of the Superboys continues! (And, possibly... the reign of a super... monkey?)Superman Unlimited #12 Cover B Guillem March VariantSuperman Unlimited #12 Cover C Karen S. Darboe VariantSuperman Unlimited #12 Cover D Salvador Larroca VariantSuperman Unlimited #12 Cover E Lucas Meyer Things to Come Variant>REIGN OF THE SUPERBOYS CONTINUES! One word should fill you with fear: Metropolis! Two syllables should have you running for your lives! Beware the wrath of Beppo! The power of a Kryptonian with the mind of an angry primal beast! Can Tomorrow Man and Superboy even hope to stop the Mad Mammal of Might... Super Monkey?! The reign of the Superboys continues... as Jon Kent's life takes a surprising turn that super-fans won't want to miss!Superman Unlimited #13 Cover B Guillem March VariantSuperman Unlimited #13 Cover C Karen S. Darboe VariantSuperman Unlimited #13 Cover D Salvador Larroca VariantSuperman Unlimited #13 Cover E Anthony Marques Variant
>>152856752A Marvel writer took him away, and a Marvel writer brought him back.
>>152856752well... okay then.
>Jon isn't Superman anymoreAbout fucking time.Now turn the black Aquaman into Aquamaster ot Aqualord or something.Make Stephanie Brown Spoiler again, and Tim Red Robin again.
>>152856752Okay DC. I'm watching you.
>>152860185But Jackson isn't Aquaman anymore he is still aqualad>Wanting tim drakeneck yourself>wanting spoiler ever againfucking secondary faggot
>>152856767You are such a fucking retard.
>>152856752It is bait, dumbasses.
>>152856631Jon Kent is the worst thing to happen to Superman and should be retconned away.
>>152856752Oh boy. Can’t wait to see Jon Kent kissing boys and cocks as kid.
>>152860456you'd like that
>>152860456You say that like it's not what we want.
I love how this only issue that's been storytimed because of the Jon shit.
I'm not gonna say it's NOT bait. But I am going to proceed with cautions optimism because it's the bait I want.
>>152860544The bait I want is cutting off Brad Meltzer's head.
>>152856752This is some corny ass shit.
>>152860391>Jackson isn't Aquaman anymore he is still aqualadLast time I checked, he was still Aquaman, he became Aquaman in Aquaman The Becoming in 2022, maybe he went back to Aqualad, but I don't remember that happening.Also, what's wrong with Spoiler? Being Batgirl right now doesn't make her any favors, it only made sense for her when Babs was fully crippled and Cass was put on a bus, right now she's basically just Batgirl out of pity, feels redundant.I'd rather she used her unique identity of Spoiler over just being the "lesser Batgirl".Also, she looked the best as Spoiler, if you disagree you're wrong.
>>152856637The first line is so gay.
>>152856651>He's my new villain! >It's a furby on crack.
>>152860746It's a fuzzy gremlin you philistine
>>152856654What a whiny bitch.
>>152856739This is fucking stupid, I bet you normalfags are sloppin' it up?
>>152857366The imp is the spirit of Judaism.
>>152860544Then you are a dumbass and I have a bridge to sell you.
>>152857416Bendis was the one who wanted to age Jon up, you retarded ass brown Zoomer.Bendis wanted Jon aged up to match his IRL black adopted son who was a teenager at the time.
>>152860781It is mostly one annoying Shill/Zoomer/samefag eating up this issue who is convinced this change is going to stick.
>>152856631>>152856752Doesn’t matter. Jon Kent is still a cocksucking homosexual and thus a stain on the Superman IP.
I'm not biting
>>152861092This, Doesn't matter how much time as passed a reputation ruined is something you can never get back.
>bisexual character>split him into 2Bravo DC
>>152856876>>152856782Which is hilarious because>Supergirl is earth one Kara>Powergirl is a destroyed earth Kara>While Earth two Kara that was in prime earth returned >While Matrix existed in the current canon
>>152856752>he bit
>>152856744>>152856752The yellow lining of the cape doesn't look good here>>152858898But it looks really good on some of these variant covers
>>152861092>>152861125>>152860447Shut up.
Why are there people who hate Jon so much
>>152861376We don't trust DC
>>152861376adult Jon is a trash character done by a hack writer that made everybody involved look bad then he got turned gay...urm bi by another hack writer and had a full boring as hell pandering run. Kid Jon is another kid character and some don't like kid characters. Kid Jon at least had a niche though instead of being yet another aimless super young adult person
>>152861421Why do you hate adult Jon for being gay when you love looking at gay fanart of kid Jon with Damian?
>>152861617>you love looking at gay fanart of kid Jon with Damian?No one likes that except you. Just like most people didn’t want Tim Drake to be made gay to appeal to a vocal minority of mentally ill freaks.
>>152861376Him being made an insufferably gay adult made him cringe.Not to mention him hugging Injustice Superman.And him protesting global warming saying “there is no alternate earth” to escape to. His whole Taylor run was him and his pink-haired boyfriend being gay Antifa.Jon is a shitty character
>>152856705He's 100% right btw, this also applies to most characters that share mantles that are clearly too big for them.
>>152861376No one wanted Superman to have a gay son. And that is forever what Jon is.
>>152862021>He's 100% right btwHe is. But he is the villain so you are meant to disagree with him.
>>152862019>There is no alternate earth to escape to.Adult Jon is kind of a moron, isn't he?
>>152862067I don't think you're supposed to disagree with him. I'm pretty sure DC as a whole is aware of the opinion of Jon especially vs his kid version
>>152856705This the second time DC Comics used an imp strawman villain to try and pretend their diversity legacy characters aren’t shit.
>>152862067Are we supposed to disagree with him? Feels like they're actually acknowledging the criticisms instead of treating him as a strawman, specially since Jon agrees.>>152862183The difference here is that Jon actually agreed with him and decided to do something about it.It's also not his main motivation, just something he's saying trying to break him, but accidentally encouraged him to be something else.
>>152862108>I don't think you're supposed to disagree with him. Then you are an idiot. DC has done this exact shit before. See>>152862183>I'm pretty sure DC as a whole is aware of the opinion of Jon especially vs his kid versionThey are aware but they don’t care.This is the second time DC Comics brought back Kid Jon, anon. They know no one likes modern Adult Jon but they don’t care. This whole thing is a bait to trick dumb readers like you. Especially since DC just announced a Supergirl book with adult Jon in it.
>>152862212I mean time will tell but I'd ere on the side of pattern recognition.
Nobody cares or talk about Taylor run except people who bring every day to seethe about It Just ignore It and act like is not canon
>>152862212Are you legit autistic, anon?I am being serious, are you legit autistic?
>>152862232It is canon, anon. Jon’s entire character revolves around that shitty run. It is unignorable. It is like trying to ignore OMD.
>>152862183this is way more heavy handed and petty. That whole "run" was an abomination that tried to bitch at fans from page 1 in a way that this isn't, at least not yet
>>152862224Maybe, but the message here seems less>Look at this idiot who thinks Jon is shit, he's clearly wrong, get ready for Jon to beat him as the TRUE Superman would!And more>This guy is laying down everything wrong with Jon, and he's right, so let's have him actually do something about it instead of just trying to keep being something that doesn't work.I'm also more willing to believe this could stick because they can have their cake and eat it too, older Jon and kid Jon, plus Tomorrow Man is obviously an identity made for him to stay as, at least for a while.
>>152862251The sad part is that no matter how much they want to straw man, their straw man IS right. These characters haven't had the good stories. They haven't had the history. It's the same for marvel. They want to push these characters into the same league as the beloved icons without doing the foot work that made the icons beloved it. They think they deserve to be fan favorites before they did anything.
>>152862218>DC has done this exact shit before.Again, there's a difference, there it was his whole motivation, and was presented as objectively wrong and for the heroes to fight against.Here, he's just telling the truth to Jon to break him, that's not his main motivation.It's also not presented as an opinion, he straight up shows him how irrelevant he is as just a lesser Superman. Leading Jon to agree and be something else.It's not the same.>This is the second time DC Comics brought back Kid Jon, anon. Kinda, but this works better because they're actually bringing him back from before he got lost instead of aging the current one down, this makes more sense. They can have their cake and eat jt too with 2 Jons.>since DC just announced a Supergirl book with adult Jon in it.If this is to stick around, we won't see the changes stick until the story is done, they're not going to spoil everything, Jon being Tomorrow Man was a mystery until now for example.
>>152862299We shall see, anon. We shall see.
>>152862334I'll try to not get my hopes up, still believing at this point feels foolish, but this just feels too close to someone's theory that DC was just going to have 2 Jons from now on.
>Jon got his own new unique identity before KonThe perks of being a nepo baby I guess, someone needs to check on Kon.
>>152862400the whole generation is just lost except maybe Bart. At least he's not gay yet
>>152860781>>152861080Ya know what. You're right. This is so fucking stupid that it wraps around to being cool. I know it's not going to stick for more than 3 months, but fuck it, sure why not. I'm here for The Great Kryptonianman. t. zoomer
>>152862400What the fuck do you mean by "unique identity"
>>152862400>Someone needs to check on Kon.He's fine, he's just rewriting the events of Infinite Crisis.
>>152862611Which name was the one Geoff Johns invented for him? Kon'El or Connor Kent?
>>152862620Hmm...I don't remember. I want to think it was Conner Kent rather than Kon-El. I'm have to go back and read Reign of the Supermen.
>>152862611Crap, this was the image I wanted to post.
>>152862611>>152862679that fat that people shat on didio hard because of this will nevar case to be funny
>>152862611>>152862679he scrambled her eggsma and pa knew
>>152862711They did? I didn't mind it all that much, but...then again I've never been a Nightwing fan, so I don't have that strong of an attachment to him.
>>152862802solo nightwing blows, but Dick Grayson is a major character in DC lore and popular as hell so if you kill him off it better be good which something as polarizing as IC could never be. In hindsight though it wouldn't matter because he'd come back sooner or later and they already pulled off similar stunts with other fairly big characters and even big dog Superman
>>152862565As in an identity that belongs to him and no one else.For example, before this, Jon was sharing Superboy with Kon, and then Superman with Clark, those weren't unique to him, now he has Tomorrow Man, which is unique to him.That said, if kid Jon is gonna stay, Kon really should stop being Superboy and get himself a new identity. Doesn't even have to be fully new and unique, I'd say that as long as no one is using it, it's fine, I like legacy identities, I don't like it when they cheapen them by having multiple characters share it at the same time.
>>152862611>>152862679This is a cute What If, DiDio, but the truth is that current Kon is more lost than current Jon, he's just pathetic in a different way.
>>152857913
Wonder how Jon's going to react to Otho and Osul.
>>152862886If Jon's a kid again having him be something like Super Son works. It comes out stupid as an older person.
>>152857627I think it's possible. There's two Pro-Kid Jon routes they could take here.>They could go the Power Girl route and have two versions of the same character exist in the same continuity.>or>Kill off one of them (usually the incumbent one) a la what they did to New 52 Superman and have him be replaced with his Post-Crisis version
>>152863031I mean there's always the Legion. Though I don't think I'd want him clogging up the new Legion book.
>>152862992damian has kinda aged up too much for it to be the same dynamic. He's full blown highschool drama now
>>152863031I think they're more likely to kill off Bendis Kent rather than have both of them existing simultaneously. He's a fucking money sink. Any book that has him front and center is guaranteed to lose their investment in keeping him in circulation. It's a lot cleaner to just replace him with young Jon and be done with it. It would also be a do-over for them to develop Jon's personality in a way that doesn't fucking mirror Bendis Kent.
>>152863057The Legion already has Mon-El, they don't need another.
>>152863104it shouldn't even be an issue because this is a giant paradox. Adult Jon literally shouldn't exist if they rescue kid Jon so he should just fade away after this story and everybody would be happy except those certain people
>>152862992Jon can be Superboy, it's fine, it's Kon who needs to change, grown ass man still calling himself "boy".
>>152863129If it wasn't for the inevitably certain media outrage I'd wager you money that the people who'd be upset wouldn't even notice.
>>152856705The Titans had an almost equally meta story in their new issue.They didn't make any immediate changes like Jon did, but there's at least the acknowledgement that something is wrong.
>>152863183This is a weird timing of events
>>152862992>>152863092Therein lies the problem with keeping around kid Jon.Is it a step in the right direction to fix Jon Kent as a character? Yes. Objectively so. This however doesn't fix the relationship dynamics he originally had with Damian; SuperSons is still unfixed and that sort of relationship dynamic won't work unless they age down Damian by like 2 to 3 years.It's why I'm of mixed opinion in seeing them potentially keep Kid Jon in continuity. It's great to see him again, but it's still so fucking retarded to do this because Damian is no longer in the same age range he was now. They'll either have to do some contrived bullshit to age down Damian to make his relationship with Jon not look annoying, or just retire the whole SuperSons concept altogether as a ship that's sailed.
>>152863031The only reason I can't see them getting rid of older Jon is because they gave him a new fancy design and identity.You don't do that with characters you're planning on putting on a bus.
>>152862956Sex.
>>152863206You guys are exaggerating, it's basically the same shit, Damian has already been character regressed in the Batman books as lately as the newest issue, there's no fucking difference.They can just write them similarly to how they used to but in a modern context.
>>152863135Kon isn’t a faggot. If he wants to call himself Superboy he can.Jon should just change his name to Super Sissy because that is all he ever will be.
>>152863206well Damian is also just one aspect of his character. Damian or not kid Jon is just a better character with more upside than adult Jon, who had all of the time to build up relationships and shit entirely cut out. It's not like he doesn't have other characters to play with anyway
>>152863242Jon was in middle school before he left with Jor-El and came back like a young adult. By then, Damian was already a sophomore in high school. I don't think you see how fucking disjointed the relationship looked once Bendis got his hands on him.
>>152863206Also, they can just like, silently age Jon up by a few year off-panel like they did with Wally's kids, they were kids compared to Damian in Dark Crisis, and then suddenly teens in the same age range as him around Absolute Power.If you need an excuse, just say it's time fixing itself and making Jon as old as he should be by now.This really isn't as big a problem as you guys are making it out to be.
>>152863260yeah there's options anyways. You can have him hang out with the Daxam twins. Wally's kids.
>>152863260Irey is also a teen now btw
>>152863260Damian was arguably one of the best developments for Jon's character. SuperSons was actually a moneyprinter before Didio's mandate sent all of that into a tailspin. It's pretty obvious with Kid Jon's last appearance was a SuperSons guest appearance in a Flash comic, I'm fairly certain they're painfully aware of how much they wished they didn't go through with aging up Jon Kent.
>>152863183This one was my favorite lol
>>152863358I honestly still have a hard time understanding why they did it at all. It's not like they were fucking up some random character nobody was reading. This was them having one of their best and most original successes in ages and fucking it up on purpose.
>>152863386you don't understand the power of clout. Nobody was telling him no at that time
>>152861165It's actually genius and a great way to represent bisexuality, you can't have him date 2 people at the same time without making it weird, so having one date a girl while the other dates a boy is a perfect solution.
>>152863406That's another thing, what clout did Bendis even have at this point? This is far off from Ultimate Spidey.
>>152861165>>152863422>Kid Jon goes full straight>Old Jon goes full homo
>>152856752If this issue wasn't so poorly fucking written, I'd be tempted to be excited by this.
>>152863449Kid Jon is gay now, anon. Once a character becomes gay, all version of that character become gay. Even past version of the character that weren’t gay (See Alan Scott). Plus they already had media with Kid Jon saying he loves men now.
>>152862183thanks for reminding me about that shit mini>you're WRONG to be upset your favorite characters got sidelined for a hamfisted reality reset. You're WRONG and should be ASHAMED
>>152863532Why? This is the second time DC has baited you retards. And you keep falling for it.DC could have Batman propose to Catwoman and you idiots would think it will happen for realsies this time.
>>152863406and then god damn EVERY change he made got fucking undone because nobody liked it.
>>152863550They can just do whatever they want anon, that's why Catwoman gets excluded from Pride Month.
>>152862400If there was ever to be a "replacement" Superman it should have been Kon instead of Jon. Making Jon Superman instead of a far more well-established and popular character was incredibly stupid.>>152862886He can be Supernova or Scion
>>152863564Quit projecting. It's unseemly.
>>152863592Is anyone currently using The Eradicator? I know it sounds evil but it's something. See this shit is why Steel was able to catch so well.
>>152863249Has nothing to do with being a faggot, it's the fact that Superboy is something he SHOULD grow out of.It's not something he should bring into his adult life, imagine if Clark stayed Superboy until now, that'd be stupid.Jon is a kid, he is a boy, Kon isn't, he has to be something more.
>>152863279The age difference has always been 4 yearsJon was 10 when he left and Damian was 14Jon was 18 when he got back and Damian was still 14
>>152863449Unironically this.If we really want to take this shit seriously, one could make the argument that Jon immediately deciding he's bi and into men now after ignoring the romantic subtext from his first kiss with Bendis-Saturn Girl to crushing on Kathy, Jon's years of torture in a volcano by an evil version of his own father left him emotionally stunted. It'd would also explain away why he'd be so forgiving towards the Injustice counterpart of his own father because I guarantee you, the actual Clark wouldn't be so soft on Injustice Supes if he'd known about him murdering Billy Batson in cold blood.
>>152863666No Damian 15 right now. He would've been 11-12 when he ask the super twins age.
>>152863732Damian isn't 15 yet. at least not in the actual comics, his last stated age was 14.
>>152863249>Super SissyYou know I think this right here is like half the problem with so many gay characters. Like nobody complained about Apollo and Midnighter because they're fucking butch badassess. Whenever someone becomes gay like this he just become wuss who wants to hug things out or is always looking like they're gonna cry. Tim became an absolute twink.
>>152863666Damian was aged up to have some comparative relationship with Jon so even if kid Jon was brought back, it would still look really offputting for a 15/16 year old Damian to be chumming around with a 10 year old kid.
>>152863320She 12-13. Iirc she always been a year younger than both Damian and Jon. New universe and time and all.
>>152863746Where was this? I'm honestly going off with the batman and robin run.
>>152863730>Jon's years of torture in a volcano by an evil version of his own father left him emotionally stuntedWhile I don't think they'll actually lead in with this to explain why Jon is into dudes, I do think that it would serve enough implication to hint at why kid Jon wouldn't possibly grow up to be into men the way his current counterpart would be.
>>152863785What you just said, he was stated to be 14, not 15.
>>152863619>>152863260I can't wait for the superspeed crossover. Sorry Damian.
>>152863761Again, they can just silently age Jon up a bit, they did it with Wally's kids, they can do it with Jon.It's clear they want to write teen characters, I say let them.
>>152863803she's taken. Get back to your tomboy farmgirl
>>152863803>>152863819Damian is the one who's taken.
>>152863805If Kid Jon is coming back I really doubt they'd want to press things and ruin any good vibes they might get by pushing things. At least for a while anyways he'll probably stick close to his mom.
>>152863828A bit is just a bit anon, Jon was already like 11 at the end of Tomasi's run, they can split the difference by making him 13 and have him be basically the same.
>they're starting to believefools
>>152863803>>152863819Heroes can't date characters from outside their "franchises".These ships were doomed from the start, like DickKory or Jaytemis.
>>152863823she already literally broke damian's heart are we really pretending like she won't do it metaphorically as well?
>>152863803Jon is attracted to men, anon. Yes, even kid Jon is gay now.
>>152863876Erm, he's bisexual actually, and now that we have 2 Jons, we can properly convey that.
>>152863857It is literally just two anons (one zoomer shill and one retard).Everyone with an actual non-autistic brain already knows this is a bait.
>>152863449But what if...>Kid Jon goes full homo>Old Jon goes full straight
>>152863887He’s gay.Kid Jon will his kiss more boys.
>>152862183Wasn't Cassie one of the big 4 of the young justice?
>>152863859Dickfire was almost law and was one of the most anticipated events in DC. It got rugpulled at the 11th hour with messy behind the scenes shit then a hasty butchering. It's also why they keep Dick in limbo because it's still popular despite a bunch of Dickbabs writers who wish otherwise
>>152863876Nah, Kid Jon's straight. Old Jon is now an aberration from a parallel universe.
>>152863937The writer of this mini was really fucking bad and it seems did not read the original Young Justice. Like at allThe only reference to Empress was alongside a bunch of YJ villainsThere was a complete misunderstanding of Cassie's relationship with the boys as well as how they treated Arrowette's retirementCassie used heat vision at one pointIt was an insult that seems to have killed Young Justice for the rest of the 2020s
>>152863803>>152863819>>152863859It ok Anons. Big sis Otho ra will take great care of Jon in bed. She has the endurance dealing with little brothers.
>>152863859>Heroes can't date characters from outside their "franchises".what do you mean they can't?
>>152863859uh huhexplain this kid then.
>>152863641Kon still being high school aged aside, DC won't let him be "something more." They have a weird hate boner for the YJ generation and have constantly tried to replace them with their shiny new OCs without allowing them to mature and forge identities of their own. Kon was only begrudgingly brought back because Jon was a failure of a character.
>>152864043I dont get it
>>152864043I have no idea who this is, so she must be a completely irrelevant literal who.Get her out of my sight.
>>152863995She's older? I assumed they were around the same age as kid Jon.>>152864004It's usually because editorial prefers their characters to date characters they can control, instead of having to share with other editorials.
>>152864076>>152864078This kid is literally the descendent of multiple heroes from different generations or "franchises" as you'd call them who also happens to have the longest and most complex family lineage. From Phantom Lady and Iron Munro to Manhunter and even fucking Hugo Danner from the Gladiator novel.
>>152863952Nope. Kid Jon is gay too. Just like Old Jon.
>>152863381Why does this happens him?
>>152864054>Kon still being high school aged asideWhich he shouldn't be btw, I'm gonna ignore that backup that was supposed to be a setup for him becoming trans, it was just forgetting how old the characters are supposed to be.It's ridiculous to me that DC thought that Jon should be old enough to go to college, but Kon was apparently still in High School, give me a break.>They have a weird hate boner for the YJ generation and have constantly tried to replace them with their shiny new OCs without allowing them to mature and forge identities of their own.It's less hate, and more that they don't really know what to do with them, AND in some cases don't want to take them anywhere else.A lot of the current DC writers grew up with the YJ generation, they have a bias for them, but they want them to be exactly how they remember them, which means they can't leave roles they were supposed to grow out of a long time ago, and now have to share the spotlight with the newer younger legacies.>Kon was only begrudgingly brought back because Jon was a failure of a character.Ehhh, Kon was brought back by the same person who killed Jon as a character, Bendis.
>>152864107>It's usually because editorial prefers their characters to date characters they can control, instead of having to share with other editorials.I mean, >>152864130 kinda disproves your theory since one of the characters is a direct great-grandchild between Phantom Lady, originating as a Quality Comics character, and Iron Munro, who is primarily a DC hero.Hell, he even still exists in the current continuity too.
>>152864133Nope, the timeline has diverged. No more weird gay fantasies for you.
>>152864130> Lady and Iron Munro to Manhunter and even fucking Hugo DannerLMAOYou're so funny anon, these Z-listers aren't even half close to counting as having their own franchises lolLet me spell it out for you, the POPULAR heroes cannot date around other franchises, Z-listers that no one cares about are usually fair game since they don't have their own designated editorials, they don't fucking matter so they can date and have kids if they want, but the same doesn't apply to characters from actually popular franchises.>>152864159>kinda disproves your theoryNo, because Phantom Lady is a fucking nobody and has no editorial to fight for her or her "universe" or "supporting cast" LMAO, same with Iron Munro, no one fucking cares about that Temu Superman,
>>152864139There are too many "main" Titans. And the Wolfman NTT are just too iconic to really move on fromYou can get rid of Wally pretty easily because he has a family/takes the Flash spot on the Justice LeagueAnd sometimes they get rid of Roy, but at least he adds a dynamic for Donna and is a bit of an assholeBut they can't really do any of that with Garth, because he has Tula (and he used to have a wife Dolphin and a kid of his own)But it still seems weird to have 3 or 4 out of 5 original Teen Titans, and not acknowledge Garth. So they have to come up with an excuse for where he is.And when he isn't in the Aquaman books it just becomes obvious that no one knows what to do with him
>>152864194>they’re not popular so they don’t count lalalala i can’t hear youI accept your concession
>>152856739Because T.O. Morrow exists I'm not really feeling it.Also I've always felt Man of Steel was more timeless and sensible than Man of Tomorrow.Metropolis being the City of Tomorrow for its advancements and Superman being the Man of said city is all fine but then it just leaps.Metro Man wouldn't have worked either of course, more because of Megamind than the implications, and Metropolis Man seems very long, but so is Tomorrow Man, and Jon isn't really about Metropolis anyway.I wonder if they could have got away with Action Man or Man of Action? Super Action?
>>152864220You're not getting it, the fact that you only brought up Z-Listers proves my point, important characters can't get together like that, they don't want to deal with the possibility of the Flash and Superman families merging, or the Bat and Flash families.Again, if they're minor enough, they're usually free to use however they want, but bigger characters have more protection.At most, they'll have a fling in a team book, but that's usually it, you won't usually see an established from a different big enough franchise be endgame to some other big character.
>>152864250>Because T.O. Morrow exists I'm not really feeling it.What does Morrow have to do with this?
>>152856767Going back to him being eternally 12? We’re never fucking reaching the beyond timeline are we, for fucks sake
>>152863874Damian's relationship Flatime, is unironically the most stable romance in the batfamily
>>152864288>the beyond timeline areAnon, that shit was always just an AU, and even if it wasn't, of course we never are going to get to that time period you doofus.
>>152864151DC doesn't even know what to do with many of the "main" characters so of course the side ones suffer unless they easily slot into stuff like a Robin. In general the company is just worse at worldbuilding and story crafting. It's a big planet -> universe but it feels tiny in ways it didn't used to. Do they even still do stuff like the martial arts rankings anymore or the magic orders
>>152864258The fact that editors still keep them around instead of retconning them from continuity does little to disprove any of that shit lmao.You can move the goalposts as much as you want, but that doesn’t mean that characters from different properties can’t have their progeny of their own regardless of whatever “franchises” you’ve conjured up to justify why characters can’t do that like you’ve been inside the DC offices lol
>>152864274He's THE guy with Tomorrow as a name to me. It's like if the unrelated Timber Wolf started going by Lobo Man, it's an absurd thing I know but it seems like intruding on already seized territory.
>>152863183>>152863381Just read the entire issue>>152857776>>152857776>>152857776and yes the entire thing is meme worthy of edits.
>>152864324>The fact that editors still keep them around instead of retconning them from continuity does little to disprove any of that shit lmaoAgain, small unimportant characters can hook up just fine, like I said, no one's gonna fight for Phantom Lady or Iron Munro, they don't have editorials of their own, they barely have books of their own.It doesn't fucking matter if they have some kid as a footnote and that legacy exists until today, that's just part of the larger DC brand, not some specific editorial that might get upset.Again, my argument was always just about characters that actually matter, if you can actually come up with some cross-franchise romance that actually sticks, then I'll concede.The closest thing I can think of is Kon and Cassie, but even that was broken up, and only really existed because they were in the same team.
>>152864327>He's THE guy with Tomorrow as a name to me.Well, not to me, I'd argue Superman is more of a Tomorrow guy than him, Morrow is barely ever relevant nowadays anyway.
>>152856887It’s mentioned in the issue that’s being storytimed this takes place after Titans
>>152856752I know it's bait but I want to believe bros...
>>152856767How many times are you gonna fall for the same shit
>>152865110At least once more.
>>152865110How many times are you gonna scream about it? in this thread.
Honestly, knowing Slott created pic related, I'm not surprised he brought back young Jon, even if it's just temporary.
>>152865413More like I'm not surprised Slott jumped in to get credit for the obvious thing people want
>>152859666Good observation Satan.It would be really funny if Slott out of all people was the one who finally brought Jon back for good.
>>152865454If it's so obvious, why did it take them so long?Maybe they needed an outside perspective to come and tell them what they were doing was stupid.
>>152865467they see marvel killing themselves and are striking while the iron's hot. Alfred's return soon to come
>>152863386Whenever they use Jon outside the main comics, it's always as a kid, they know he works better like that.
>>152856639>"everyone was cool with him also being Superman"That's just a lie
>>152856887Brombai said what happening here will 100% affect titans
>>152865634Everyone was cool with it in the sense that no one was telling him to drop the name.They did make fun of him multiple times tho, "Superson" "Superman Jr.", "Baby Superman", "Nepo-Superman".
>>152865467>If it's so obvious, why did it take them so long?It's a dyeng industry for a reason
>>152865667Lesbians
>>152865740They're just mean girls bullying the nepo-baby who peaked when he was 10.
Thread in a nutshell.
>>152865667>>152865751Are they just saying this just so they can be fucked by kryptonian cock?
>>152865878
>>152856631God, aging up this adorable boi was the stupidest fucking thing DC ever did:>Hey, you know our best selling comic, Supersons? What if we shitcanned them in a desperate attempt to relaunch Legion of Superheroes? Yeah, this is the best idea everWe couldn't have known "Bendis is Coming" was not an advertisement, but a threat.
>>152865878Anon, Jon is gay. He is the one getting fucked by cock.
>>152866188He's Bi. He deserves to bang some girl behind his cuck boyfriend back.
>>152866213>behind his cuck boyfriend back.lmao anon, haven't you heard? Jon got dumped by his Tumblr hair boyfriend.
>>152856887What >>152865665 said.And that's a good thing, it's kinda amazing how much better the Tomorrow Man suit looks than Jon's shitty Superman costume.
>>152866272I liked his Secret Six outfitBut Tomorrow Man is pretty great
>>152865833No, it's more like all four are people mad
>>152856631First time a cover makes me not wanna buy a book...
I thought this book was supposed to be some mini series but then I realized I had it mixed up with that weird ass Kryptonite thing
>>152856631Wait is super shota finally back?
>>152856887He’s fighting a 5th dimensional imp that rules time and space. Having the timeline making less sense than usual is probably the point.
>>152866433Yes, Billy!
>>152866783>He’s fighting a 5th dimensional imphow many of these goddamn things do we have now?
>>152866783It's specifically 4th dimensional
>they're falling for it
I'm choosing to believe that Slott was taking his pent up frustrations about Miles out on Jon
>>152867279>Discussing the possibility means we're all doing cartwheels
>>152866306His Secret Six costume was pretty good, I'll give him that.But his usual everyday Superman suit was just trash.
>>152867351Anon, Slott likes Miles. He even wrote Miles in his ASM.
>>152856744Vagina-shaped dimensional hole!That’s Tomorrow Man’s one weakness!
>>152856637I'm reading!
>>152856752Honestly, if we're sticking with this, I'm just gonna mentally de-Jonify Tomorrow Man.Like, that's not young Jon and old Jon, that's just Jon and Tomorrow Man.
>>152867279not me thosaw right through that shit like wet toilet paper
>>152869782We know older Jon ain't going anywhere, specially after getting this fancy new identity, Kid Jon's fate is the actual mystery here.The obvious answer would be to just have 2 Jons now, like Supergirl and Power Girl.They could also just put him on a bus somehow, but after this meta introspection on the failings of adult Jon's character, it'd feel very tone-deaf, specially after bringing kid Jon back, they definitely know how people feel about the decision to age Jon up, but they can't just get rid of the older Jon, so one would think simply having two Jons would fix that, they can have their cake and eat it too if they play their cards right.We'll just have to see how the story develops, next issue the Jons are meeting Lois, and the one after that will apparently have Jon's life take a surprising turn, but the solicitations are too vague and monke-focused to properly guess what's gonna happen.
>>152870252>but the solicitations are too vagueThat's the unusual part. You'd think this would be spoiled to krypton.
>>152870252The story will end with Master Txyz combining the 19 year old Jon with the 11 year old Jon and creating a new 15 year old Jon (same age as Damian) going forward.This is just how they solved the nu52 Superman and Lois with pre-flashpoint Superman and Lois.
>>152856887This only works if you're reading it in release order, because Unlimited #9-10 has a break point for Superman to go from there to Superman #28 which leads him right into DC K.O.Jon's sub-plot in Unlimited #9-10 leads directly into #11 which is after DC K.O.The only way you can make this work in continuity is to ignore the text here >>152856651 that says it takes place after DC K.O., say that Jon pussied out and went back to being Superman, and then have him be a part of DC K.O. and then the first arc of New Titans, and then changed his mind and went back to calling himself Tomorrow Man for Unlimited #12 and the second arc of New Titans
>>152865413>>152865467Idk why they are obsessed with aging up kid heroes? Like they know they'll never be superman so why even waste the time. But super sons was literally a top seller>Had a movie with a plan for a sequel before warner bs>Multiple super high sales comic runs>A graphic novel run>A book......that I think was based on graphic novels>Tons of cameosWhy make one a adult and the other basically just kind of another robin
>>152863169"The media" could not give one shit about Jon Kent.
>>152863104Exactly, Tomorrow Man is either going to get killed off in the next event or completely forgotten.
>>152871915Didio was going to make Jon the new Superman in 5G and make Jace Fox the new Batman with the two of them fighting older version of Superman and Batman gone rogue with the new Justice Alliance if AT&T hadn't fired him. That was the whole point of hiring Bendis and all those Portland guys and giving him Superman/Action. He was basically using Bendis to set up for 5G.
>>152863057the legion will have prime
>>152873167was this a fuck you to the writers who liked legacy and hero families? like didio was anti marraige and anti kid and anti a character being over 40. was this just him going ok you want older characters, now they are all old and evil
>>152871915Shipping and drama.>>152874928Considering the choices for Batman and Wonder Woman, yes.
>>152856752At a certain point you just have to admit that you made a mistake.That super son omni has been reprinted a bunch of times so it obviously still sells.
>>152856816>>Damian is around 14/15He still looks the same. they can just ignore the age up.
>>152858898>no Jorge Jimenez weird
>>152875126Ok so Jon is confirmed 11. Damian might be 14-15 who knows. At least it still a 3 years difference somewhat so the friendship ain't that weird.
this could be a jon a bit into the volcano stay he could be slightly older
>>152876081that's not english
>>152877344I forgot a period after stay
>>152877658>>152877344And to reply to the person above me
>>152873167This sounds super dumb either way>>152875051The new peaks of comics
>>152865593Cute.
>>152856928>>152856975We JUST had a story about alt-time-displaced heroes who were going to get erased soon, so they got sent into a suicide mission to Hell and they all died.Shouldn't this Jon also have a limited existence-span?Of course not, they would never care about being consistent.
They’re testing the waters to see which will be greater: outrage from the LGBT crowd for diminishing their queer icon or fan enthusiasm for the return of straight Kid Jon. Audience reaction will depend on which one gets killed off later this year. Since almost no one cares about Tohomo Man, adult Jon will likely be the one to go.
>>152878469Team Alphabet NEVER puts their money where their mouth is
>>152878346Why did DC kill off all of these characters? Is it because KC Alan Scott is straight?
>>152878346To be fair that was due to three dimensional beings messing with time, this is a 5th dimensional demon so it's easier to manipulate a dimension lower
>>152880032I had to check how supergirl died and damn that brutal.
>>152860456Judging by the amount of JonxDamien shota yaoi, wouldn't be surprised.
>>152882154I find it funny an entire fandom loves damian x jon but hates jon x Jay. Like I just saw a bunch of chinese cheered that they broke up.
>>152882154They wouldn't risk it after revealing Damian's son, Alfred Wayne in KO, plus Damian is still in a relationship with Flatline.Although, you'll get Kid Jon showing an interest in boys, as a possibility.
>>152882330Nobody likes the mandatory ethnic boyfriend trope, see Iceman's.
