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>>152995601>FEUDAL JAPAAAAAAAAAAAAANor>MENDOZAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>152995630Mendoza is alright, it's quite a pretty city.
>>152995659>ZeniWe're in a Capcom game now?
>PHLOO
>>152995701The anti-kuniochi weapon... A rock...
https://youtu.be/ZbOU1YYN6KI
>>152995724Extremely Feudal of you but I get it
>>152995856https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2cl6_DVpFI
we already counted these orphans, didn't we?
>>152995892We could check if their numbers match and add any the ones that didn't get counted last time.
it's always fun to look at what people thought to be cutting-edge entertainment: https://youtu.be/MY900v0lJtU
what japanese folklore taught me is men come from peaches, and women from the moon.
>>152995916I swear, Usagi must have made his clothes out of catnip.
ENTER >Justice for All: Inspector Ishida's themehttps://youtu.be/wVkyy04CkTk
>>152996027ENTERhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKllq_xIRY8
https://youtu.be/Yj6VtQVUlSM
>>152996033>Rice powderVery cheap makeup, no traces of lead, so that rules out any noble women and men.
JITTE STATUS: RESPECTED
>>152996072Not even Ornstein and Smough can stand in the way of the jitte.
>>152996138Watch out! He's about to kamehameha the chief inspector!
>>152996106I love this guy already (Ishida, not Ogawa)
https://youtu.be/-_Ll8adQXZM
>>152995639Gen takes gratitude and friendship very seriously.
Does the whole "Gen got his soul sucked" thing ever go anywhere?
>>152996214Yes, there will be some consequences. But it'll take a while.
>>152996214a little bit
>>152995934is this the first time china/chinese is mentioned? i know they alluded to the land of dragons once already
>>152995945>long-eared menace tells a story where his oc donut steel self-insert is wearing the latest tacticool samurai armor top of the line sengoku technology>his broke ass irl is wearing armor 600 years out of date
>>152996269probably yes
>>152996291I have had this video on my tabs for over a week now just waiting for this panel!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_O77dWhyAM
>>152996302nice
>>152996027holy fucking enter
>>152996269Good eye. I can't recall any other time China is referred to by name either.
>>152995621What does he use for his teeth ?
>>152996399I think it's salt
>>152996117what a fucking blunder damn usagibro could see the poweder on the shoulder but the LAYER OF DUST ON THE TOYS THAT HADN'T BEEN TOUCHED IN A YEAR CAUSE THE KID FUCKING DIED
Sei-chan's thick ponytail
>>152996033>I was referred by priest Sanshobo. He said you are an honorable person and might be able to help me.Considering later reveals, this is a very interesting line in hindsight
>orphans: +1, then -1
>>152996215goku zesty
>>152996528Never noticed till now the expression frozen in death on toyofuku's face. Dude got his shit pushed in bushido stylez.
the hell you wan me to do, dude?
>>152996027maybe something from The Great Ace Attorney could also work as the theme?
>>152996231Would ishida really be able to get away with getting him for the death of hayate and his wife? They didn't get him back 15 years ago, but then again he HAD bribed someoneBut like they just kinda assume Natto and the 3 merchants did it after some old man told them there were rumors, there's really 0 evidence except for Natto possibly bribing the chamberlain, and that has 0 to do murder necessarilyThe 2 witnesses that saw the murder are dead now too.
>>152996579post it
>>152996239>>152996591oh wait i forget the fucker admits it lol
>>152996264cameo niggas
>>152996576This guy did nothing wrong but walk outside and got murdered for it. What the fuck
https://youtu.be/Hm0QuVm06LYby the way if you haven't played ghost trick do it right now, you can beat it over the weekend. don't look at any guides. >FLOO!: 5
>>152996536Clever action/adventure trick totally backfires.
>>152995659Spearbros...that's two losses in a row, and we're supposed to beat these sword chums easily...
>>152996641You can tell Yoshii is a punk ass bitch because he does not have the MANLY BROWS of Ishida's BROW OF JUSTICE or Nakamura Koji's BROW OF BUSHIDO, or even Ikeda's MUSTACHE OF POWER but a gay looking soulpatch.
>>152995681>You need not bully those less fortunate than you! That is not a samurai's way!Oh no who wants to tell him?
>>152996596Ikeda must have figured it out from this and decided not to touch it since the guy Usagi killed was such a bastard.
>>152995632>They're not looking into the deaths of a few dozen monks, because a lord and his fee dozen retainers got ganked on the same day in roughly the same areaChrist on a unicycle.
>>152996743>That moustached Ishidahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q429AOpL_ds
>>152996596>>152996735>IkedaWhoa good catch. Yoshii called inspector I-SHI-da I-KE-da. What a chump no wonder he's a second rate sword tester.
>>152996767>It's too late Usagi! I have already drawn you as a shoyujak, thus making me the winner of this argument!
that's it for today, see you tomorrow.
>>152996716>"Come celebrate Usagi's 15th' birthday">We passed Usagi's FORTIETH anniversary TWO years ago
>>152996786Cheers murder, till tomorrow then.
>>152996803That's all the new memes I got for now.
>>152995691>Walker_of_Dissonant_Worlds.mp3
>>152996541Yeah, i was thinking about that too, neat touchI alwasy forget how close together such cool characters like ikeda, ishida and sanshobo are introduced
>>152996786Many thanks, it’s been nice to be able to read these stories each morning>>152996802I knew Usagi is far from new but holy shit it’s been going for THAT long?
>>152996847Non-fetish furry comics were an '80s thing.
>>152995701>A lacivious stone
>>152996596https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGA_CJDoY1s I thought this had a good Ishida-ish vibe
>>152995730STOP MEDDLING YOU DUMB RABBIT
>>152996684just like Kiryu is bad at being a yakuza, Usagi is bad at being a samurai
>>152995724It worth noting, Scars and Crippling Injuries were considered shameful. Like you weren't sufficiently resolute in the face of certain death or some utter fucking bullshit. Or maybe they just didn't want crippled vets scaring the kids away from dying for their lords.
>>152996677damn this dude had some real self esteem problems
>>152996838I wonder how much of the comic is planned ahead of time. Or rather, we know some elements are- we saw Stan describe how he planned Grasscutter some 5 years in advance- but it makes me wonder what elements are planned in advance and what elements are him coming up with things in the moment. and therefore with that in mind, if Ishida was always meant as a hidden christian or not. We see him vaguely throw a line indicating a preference or yearning in aspects of Western culture, but did that mean to imply anything else? I'd love to get to interview Stan about stuff like this
>>152996067JUSTICE KICK
>>152996847Usagi debuted in 1984, along with TMNT, Transformers and BattleTech.
>>152997156>BattleTech
>>152996716>>152996946Unfortunately letters from the reader at the end of issues have become extinct in recent years in favour of ads. You could still try the email
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>>152996716The mention of the way foreigners were isolated in Japan at the time, and the conversation in previous days about the cancelled China story, makes me realise- I've no idea how Chinese or Koreans were treated during the Tokugawa Shogunate. I know Europeans were forbidden, with the exception of the Dutch in Dejima, but I've never really seen anything about non-white foreigners in Japan beyond "the mongols got fucked when they tried invading and then Japan invaded Korea like 500 years later"
>>152996946I think he was planning since that first related story comes pretty soon i think.Also personally I've always headcanoned that Ishida converted some time after his son passed since it seems to me that, if that one jizo story is anything to go by, belief in a christian afterlife sounds way WAY more appealing for your deceased child than being forced to stack stones futilely for all fucking eternity (granted limbo throws a bone in this)
>>152996786Thank you Murderanon. You might remember last year during the storytime an anon mentioning being in the hospital- that was me, a year ago today. The storytime kept me entertained for the three weeks I was in a hospital bed, so I very much enjoy getting to be here now
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>>152997269Here are the extras from DH UY 1-3, I didn't find them in time for the actual thread, didn't think to look for them still in their sleeves
>>152997254The Usagi Roleplaying Game and its historical adventure timeline keeps getting mentioned and I remember it was mentioned last year too. Do we have a mirror of it?
>>152997314>>152997287Hopefully you're doing better, anon.
>>152995724Autistically japanese.
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>>152996138Ogawa, turning on the charm.
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>>152997363
>>152996175>Usagi steals vol. 9
>>152995723Rock beats samurai, but paper covers rock
>>152997418Kami!?
>>152997370Did that Catnippon X Usagi story ever happen? Stan keeps hinting at it and now is stating it's a thing outright
>>152996847>I knew Usagi is far from new but holy shit it’s been going for THAT long?You. You really think you're allowed to get off Mr. Sakai's Wild Ride? Oh no. Oh no no no no NO NO NO AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA *wheeeeeeze* HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
I've recently joined the Usagi fapnage on Facebook since it seems to have Stan and the authors of Kaito 84 there occasionally. Scrolling it now I've just seen this custom bind of the comic, and want to post it so we can all be jealous
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>>152996239Never taunt a forensics expert.
>>152995655>>152995664>>152995675Did you guys notice at first?
>>152996946His belief in justice regardless of social position sounds more like Christian univeralism than Neo-Confucian law-and-order, Buddhist life-sucks-worry-about-something-else, or Shinto don't-touch-that
>>152995863>as the sages say>bitches ain't loyal
>>152996175>Usagi steals? No dignity>>152996215A trap in more ways than one
>>152997285wouldn't unbaptized children be in Hell? or does that depend on the denomination
>>152997445>>152997450>>152997455>>152997460damn that's incredible
>>152996541Him returning the compliment by saying he holds him in high regard is fairly interesting too.(Actual spoilers guys, I mean it) I haven't kept up very closely since the KIRISHITAN reveal, so I wonder if we've seen more of him since.
>Long before the Amanto Invasion,>Where the Shinsengumi of sword play,>Lived a Empire that the furries call home.>Hear their hellish roundelay...--->Feudal Ja-Pa-N>Home of courtesan, ninja, and meddlers,>Feudal Ja-Pa-N>Stingy wandering bounty dreaders.>If you want to go to Hell, you should take a trip>To the Starless Islands on the Paci-fic.>Feudal Ja-Pa-N>Bloody, rotten, violent, cruel,>Feudal Ja-Pa-N>Prideful, respectable, maggoty, jitte-foul.>Feudal Ja-Pa-N>Crummy, lousy, merciless, and fierce,>Feudal Ja-Pa-N!--->I'm praticing my calligraphy>Come here, I wanna kiss you just once, softly and sweetly on your mouth.>I am just a simple samurai>No romance do I seek.>I just wanted live under the sky>Of my only lord Mifune.>Will this bewitching chlidhood friend>Seduce this long-eared newsie?>Oh, what's a samurai to...do? --->Whoever you are, I have always depended on the bushido of meddlers.>You can always depend on the bushido of meddlers.>To fill your tea-spirits and shield you from neko-dangers.>Now here's a tip from Tomoe you won't regret.>A meddler's just a friend you haven't met!>You haven't met!>YOJIMBO!
>>152997501Catholics make allowances for unbaptized babies, who go to purgatory for a bit, then Heaven. And yeah you can do charity on their behalf to speed that up and, hey did we just invent a planar protection racket?
>>152997244>You could still try the emailMaybe. I assume he's just generally unreachable now, between being busy with other stuff, being old, and having a bigger fanbase- similar to how Don Rosa stopped answering fan mail in the 2000s because he was getting too much to answer it all, and didn't want to leave some answered and some unanswered.>>152997501Would depend on the denomination I guess. My understanding is, especially around the time of the comic, there was no official doctrine in the Catholic church as to the fate of those who die in original sin, but a lot of "unofficial" statements by theologians and priests that kinda just went "well they probably live in a happy Limbo, they don't get to go to heaven but aren't suffering in hell either, and who knows, God might decide to grab them and put them in heaven anyway, it's all His will and we can only but hope"
>>152995833I have a carved Hanya mask from Japan on my wall. Shortly after I got it, I would wake up in the middle of the night and get freaked out by the black blob on my wall, forgetting it was there.
>>152996000>last panelwtf usagi
>>152997574>152997574You almost certainly won't get him, but someone on his team might pass along some information they have. Stan's also pretty active on the con circuit and does a fair amount of signings at shops around the country, you might be able to find one near you.
>>152995649>healing through judicious application of sadism
>>152997635I'm sadly not American and I missed my chance to meet him when he visited a national con two years ago by not even knowing he was here
>>152997540>I hate every ninja I see from komori to mogura>No you'll never make a meddler out of me!>By the gods! I was wrong! It was Bushido, all along.>You finally made a meddler!>Yes we finally made a meddler!>Yes you fi-nally ma-de a medd-ler out of meeeeee!>I love you Kashira Chizu!
>>152997275The shogunate had no formal relations with either the Ming or the Qing dynasties. Both the Chinese dynasties, the Ming moreso, were also pro-isolationist so that suited them just fine. Chinese merchant ships were allowed into Nagasaki just like the Dutch, under strict regulations. The Chinese trade settlement in Nagasaki was called Tojin-yashiki. Of course there was also the illicit smuggling and piracy that was quasi-tolerated by the bakufu. No immigration was allowed and especially under the Qing dynasty with the enforcement of the Manchu-style queue haircut it would have been very hard for an ethnic Han Chinese to live in Japan unnoticed even if he spoke Japanese unless he shaved off his hair entirely. Korea, interestingly, actually had formal diplomatic relations with the bakufu. Despite the Imjinaboogaloo started by Hideyoshi, the Yi Dynasty and the Tokugawa's had normalized relations. The shogunate would send an envoy to Korea to announce the installation of a new shogun, as an equal to the Korean king, which was reciprocated. Official trade with Korea went through Tsushima domain. The Korean kingdom at this time was also staunchly isolationist, with even more restrictions on overseas travel than even the shogunate. Any immigration into Japan by a Korean would have been extremely difficult and of course never documented anywhere.Source: Foreign Relations during the Edo Period: Sakoku Reexamined.” Journal of Japanese Studieshttps://doi.org/10.2307/132341.
>>152997212The Draconis Combine is basically Bullshido the country, this is getting uncanny
>>152997490Let's not glaze Christianity too hard now. Buddhism and Neo-confucianism concepts on justice are more complex than you're memeing them out to be.
>>152997683So Usagi meeting a chinese traveller would be as improbable as Usagi himself going to china, got it.Stan, set a story in Ryukyu
>>152996027https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty9Xd03_rvQ&list=RDty9Xd03_rvQ&start_radio=1Just one more thing,
>>152997683Taking a course on the Imjin War in college was certainly one of the more rewarding experiences I’ve had with pure academia, especially the pizza party at the end of the semester where we watch The Admiral: Roaring Currents
>>152997685>fictional setting that is purposefully modeled on Edo jidaigeki tropes is....eerily like Feudal Japan??
Book 13677 Usagis (5839 total)1033 Panels (11493 total)No Neko (637 total)No Komori (134 total)No Mogura (34 total)
>>152995947Badass dog
>>152996043The suspect is clearly Jack Cassidy.
>>152997727Speaking of, did actual feudal Japan have anything like the five pillars of the Draconis Combine?>The Draconis Combine is said to be supported by five pillars, each symbolizing an aspect of Draconian society: the Pillar of Gold, representing the government; the Pillar of Steel, representing the military; the Pillar of Teak, representing the people and culture; the Pillar of Ivory, representing philosophy and religion; and the Pillar of Jade, representing the economy. All five pillars work together to support the manifest destiny of House Kurita to conquer all of known space.https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Draconis_Combine#The_Five_Pillars
>>152996061Oh shit, it's Blunto-san
>>152997476No. Glazed right over him. Goddamn.
>>152996215It's a trap!!
>>152997797>YAAAAKUUUUUUUUUUB!!!!!Ahem. Yes the Tokugawa bakufu had a class system. We've discussed this at length in the storytime: the shi (warrior class and nobility), the no (peasants, farmers), the ko (artisans and other specialists) and finally the, ugh, sho (((((merchant)))). Outside of this system are the spiritually impure eta and hinin. This rigid class structure was the handiwork of a man named Hayashi Razan who was Tokugawa Ieyasu's (and his first four heir's) political advisor. Hayashi pushed for the bakufu to officially adopt Neo-Confucianism (Shushi in Japanese), one could call it Neo-Confucianism With Japanese Characteristics, as an official ideological framework for their government, which Ieyasu did almost immediately upon peacetime. Hayashi's study and then commentaries on Neo-Confucianism for his government also includes some mediations on the yin-yang dynamic, chi energy, and the five elements too, such as they related to the relationship between the governed and the governing, the social fabric, good administration, justice, etc. I would be pleasantly surprised if the Battletech writers actually did their research into the bakufu regime's internal ideological justifications, but it's probably more likely that the 5 Pillars is just a very surface-level transplantation of vaguely pan-Asian sounding ideas.Source:“On Political Thought in Tokugawa Japan.” The Journal of Politicshttps://doi.org/10.2307/2127075.
>>152996072>Nice technique son, what's your name?>IshidaFEUDAL COPhttps://youtu.be/KuLYg9cmbQY?si=hxbcIXU27A_zh3Mf
>>152996487Only eleven goons? Shit Chamberlain; you sure that's enough to kill a toddler?
>>152996027One of my favorite reoccurring characters.
>>152996548And the dead kid count wasn't raised. Astonishing!
>>152996472 he's just a dumb ronin in the end
What do we think about Usagi sexually?
>>152995601>FEUDAAAL JAPAAAAAAN
>>152996749I mean, lord Sakana is massacred with his entire entourage, lord Kotetsu (hes on the council of 8 so hes a major lord) mysteriously and suddenly fell to his death, lord Noriyuki barely survived an assassination and went missing for a while, and theres been an earthquake, dead samurai from Kotetsu's clan are popping up here and there, and a local police chief is dead with his policemen, and the dan-no-ura village has been massacredAll in the span of what, a day? 2 days? The authorities really do have their hands full.
>>152998170Thanks for reminding me>Ishida's original kid>+1 dead kid
>>152998534Fuck.
>>152995796>2-4 amDO NOT COMMIT SEPPUKU AT 3:33 AM (GONE WRONG) (GONE SEXUAL) (COPS CALLED)
>>152998481Also. The Pillar of Fire. >Kami, what a week it's been..>Jiro it's Tuesday.
>>152996528>Chamberlain just wanted peace for his timesI want out of karma's wild wheel.
>>152996296Sorry guys, she smiled at ME
>>152996106Dammit, Ishida! You're a renegade! The mayor's already on my ass! One more screw up and it's your badge!>>152996264Hey, it's Akiko.
As glorious as that jaw may be I prefer it when he looks a bit less like a muppet
>>152996662Sorry but Fire Emblem says no. Sword > Spear > Bow > Sword
>>152997476I thought he was staring daggers at Usagi firstBut no. I'm glad not everything always revolves around our little meddler
>>152996749It's kinda like how there are a LOT of unsolved murders that happened on 9/11 2001
>>152995751>>152995753https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccacj8YGBywOh boy time for this one
>>152995825>>152995833I always like how actually spooked Usagi gets in these parts
>>152998030>Tokugawa IeyasuSwear to christ from what little I know of the Feudal Japan every time I hear some fuck awful thing about the Japanese feudal system it comes from his reign or one of his close successors. Nobunaga should have won
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>>152998880You got Lady Maple perfectly.
>>152996491these guys have not read lone wolf and cub
>Oh, one more thing, mister Japan...>please, lieutenant, call me Feudal>daww sorry, sir. Feudal it is. You see, I find it odd how this 'Karma' fellow always seems to strike only within your contextual frame>I'm afraid I don't follow, lieutenant>Sorry, sir. What I mean is that all that violence befalling all those people, regardless of social standing, actions, or even intentions, seems a little random and brutal to be attributed to a cosmic cause and effect principle>But lieutenant, surely you're not pretending to divine the inner workings of the universe>haha no no no, sir. I cannot even guess where I put my getta most of the time. You see, my wife, she->Lieutenant, unless you're here to solve all this senseless deaths, I fail to see the point of this visit>oh, but you see, sir I am here to do exactly that. Could you accompany me to the station, please?
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>>152999044Don't blame it all on him and his descendants.Hideyoshi laid the foundation for him.
>>152995626>even if you survive Jei's blade, you're still drained, depressed, and lack the will to liveFuck.
>>152996683and then another usagi lookalike gets killed.
>>152999044>Nobunaga "Demon King of Sixth Heaven" should have won
>>152995651>not cutting the blade
>>152995892>>152995902We counted 8 last time, coutning all the panels this time the most I see at one time is 15 in that last panel. So it would be +7 if you wanted to update.
>>152998030House Kurita isn't supposed to be Tokugawa Shogunate exactly, just a somewhat vague Old-Time Japan shtick...pretty much LARPing.Davion was supposed to be Arthurian LARPing but you don't see that depicted much.
>>152999448Yeah, and then you start eating too many pickles and get fat.
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>>152995707>"HE'S JUST ONE CRIPPLE!"You dun goofed. You might have kicked his ass if you hadn't said that.
Welcome back to the death rattle tally, now with a color scale to better see the amounts! Here are the new screams found in today's storytime:>Phloo!: 1See attachment for total cry so far. As always, if you have any questions about the count, feel free to ask.
>>152995746>The music is getting louder!>And it's getting darker!>I think it's some kind of Marilyn Manson cover version now!
>>152999569>PhlooI don't know if I can accept this alternate spelling
>>152999044"Get mad, nerd!"-Tokugawa Ieyasu
>>152995659It's little moments like this that really make this comic for me.
>>152995671RIP horse x 2
>>152995947>>152995953The banner is a Nippon Ichi no Kibi Dango banner
>>152995687"I don't want no trouble!"
>>152996314Even though she's essentially a bit character, I really like Lady Maple. She's just a nice lady who wants the best for the people around her. Which of course makes it all the worse when she gets Feudal'd.
>>152996662spears will always win in our hearts. >>152997445this is some insane dedication. >>152997314thanks again dude>>152997436I've never seen it either. >>152998030caste systems were everywhere in those days, even europe had undesirables like tanners and executioners. makes you wonder if there is some deep philosophical point to be made about it or it's just people hating on literally dirty jobs. >>152998880lady maple never looked better
>>152999764how much respect does the average sewage technician/garbage worker get?It's not right, but it happens.
I think I'm getting tired of counting Pigs, luckily this storytime has given me a bit of a conundrum to break up the monotony. Now I've never read Akiko (is it any good?) but I understand two of the characters who cameo here are aliens, further complicated by the fact one looks human, even though there's nothing that indicates they're still aliens in usagi-verse I think I'm going to discount them as non-human to save myself the headache.>+1 Pig>+1 Human>+2 Aliens?>New Total: 81 (or 83 if you want to count the aliens)
>>152996019>>152996027Inspector Nii really changes from this first appearance.
>>152998534That brings total up to...>Dead Children: 9 + (Villages)
>>152995701Rock remains undefeated.
>>152996037>for once he's actually invited to meddle
>>152999848Let's say we jump forward to 2026.How would /a/ be portrayed to us Americans in the Usagi Yojimbo universe?
>>152996072>Jitte status: TWIRLED
>>152995947>Chirp! Chirp! Moo!So the small birds are a standin for cows? I can't keep track of what animals are what anymore!
>Annual storytime>always seem to miss the beginningGod dammit.
>>152996626feudal japannot even once
>>153000101You're not too far off, at least- >>152834882 is still available and you only missed about a quarter of it. Catch up and join in
>>152996626He should have stayed inside and chugged more sake while pissing himself. Such is karma.
>>152996014>and certainly no concern of mineAww, he's trying not to meddle!
>>152996291>step aside for the hooker procession!>please patronize our brothel!>Khajiit has tail if you have coin!I know this is real shit but it's truly bizarre from a modern perspective.
>>152996331>I swore that I wouldn't meddle!>But... if I just meddle at a distance...
>>152996202He is a big softie, after all.
>>152996451>Middle panelProof by implication that Ishida's town isn't Edo; I remember this was discussed a bit last year. Also, his acquaintance with Sanshobo suggests that Ishida's town is in Geishu lands. (Which is... actually kind of odd considering Usagi returns there later without visiting the Geishus.) Hiroshima itself?
>>152996722
So, uh, did they forgot to invent shields in japan ?
>>152996498>He's only one guy!>And a baby!
>>152996544>You do seem to be in good spirits this morning.>Almost as though... you killed over a dozen peo-->USAGI! WHERE IS THE MASSACRE?
>>152996677Imagine getting cut in half and the guy starts rating the cut
>>153000444They used personal shields, like everywhere else in the world, but advancements in gorilla warfare had them abandon it by Usagi's period, just like everywhere else in the world.
>>152996027ENTER
>>152996591The Japanese justice system at the time was very infuenced by the Chinese one (and still is to a bizarre degree). One of the core rules of it is that the culprit has to confess freely to his crime, otherwise there can be no verdict of guilt. A side effect of this is that providing evidence to the court is of much less importance; the recited, transcribed and signed confession takes care of all the process-of-the-crime stuff. Instead, the evidence is primarily important to the investigator himself, in figuring out who committed the crime so he knows whom to force a confession out of, via torture if necessary.
>>152996622Yep. The tall one is Sandman, but who are the other two?
>>153000696>>152998807
>>153000696All three are from Akiko: see >>152998807
>>153000666>One of the core rules of it is that the culprit has to confess freely to his crime, otherwise there can be no verdict of guilt.what the fuckis this related to that thing where japan has a really low rate of charging but really really high rate of finding guilty?
>>152996291Oh no, this one....
>>152999044Blame Mitsuhide.
>>152997316Note that at this point in the comic the UY Roleplaying Game is NOT the Sanguine Games RPG published in the same format as the single-volume paperbacks, but the earlier Gold Rush Games game (which is also better).
>>152998807>>153000729>>153000730Oh, huh! I've never heard of this comic. Thanks, anons!
>>152997287Oh hey, it's hospitalbro! I too hope you're doing better, Anon!
>>152996027Since everyone else is doing the columbo themes i am compelledhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRo7tMnM60I
>>152997711>t. Lord of Buddhist HellWhy do I think you might be biased here?
>>152996239judge, jury, and executioner
>>152996522>>152996528>>152996536fuck this gay earth
>>152997682>Katsuichi, Katsuichi!>Katsuichi, Katsuichi!>Katsuichi, Katsuichi!>Ooooh, Katsuichi!>(Katsuichi, Katsuichi)>What's wrong with me?>I think you're meddly!>Want a second opinion!>You're also deadly!>Katsuichi, Katsuichi!>Katsuichi, Katsuichi!>Katsuichi, Katsuichi!>Ooooh, Katsuichi!>(Katsuichi, Katsuichi)>Can I use the katana anymore?>Of course you can!>Well I couldn't before!>(Gasp!)
>>152999569Not to tell you how to do your job, but surely Phloo! sounds exactly like Floo! ?Also, is it just me, or has the Floo! death cry only appeared so far when the character is killed by someone other than Usagi?
>>153001190>This show's got everything!>Ooh, I love legitimate Kabuki.
>>153000607>but advancements in gorilla warfare had them abandon it by Usagi's period, just like everywhere else in the world.>GorillaFair, trying to block a 500lb raging ape seems like a bad idea
>>153000768Yes, it is.As we've seen earlier in the comic, Japan used to solve this in feudal times by allowing a lot of summary justice by magistrates; if it never gets to court it can't ever be subject to onerous trial rules! The Chinese solved it mainly with lots of torture. Like, a lot. No, more than that.
>>153001249You're probably right. Ph does use the same sound as an f. The correction will be posted for tomorrow's storytime.
>>153001281Also Bribes.
>>153001249I have a theory that it's a very obscure reference to a death scene in LW&C.
>>153001319Yes, bribes, very important element of the justice system.
>>152995758>"A white Togake"It feels like this page was specifically made to throw shade at the people preferring this series in black and white.
>>152999277ironically columbo gets a good deal of pretty weak cases against his killers most of the time but would work perfectly in (feudal) japan where he manages to get them to confess regardless of how circumstantial and weak the evidence is
>>152999506the priests deserved it
>>152996626If I ever had the time i’d like to do a count of deaths caused by feudal japan; unfortunate souls condemned by no fault of their own for no reason other than living in the wrong time-periodNow that I think about it though, is that a count that’s been done before? Seems kinda obvious for one
>>153001799the count would be inconsistent given the amount of villages ravaged
>>153001047Such a great show
>>153000666 (very nice trips)>>153000768>>153001281>japan has a really low rate of charging but really really high rate of finding guilty?Modern Japan has a really high conviction rate and a really high charging rate. You can't have one without the other. But the other anon is right that this conviction rate approaches 100%, because they won't go to trial unless they obtain a confession, which they almost always get because - A) their prosecutors work under one national organization B) their prosecutors are way more involved with police work than other justice systemsC) they won't hold or charge a suspect unless they're absolutely sure they can get a conviction (I think this is what you mean?)and finally D) they'll just find a loophole to suspend a suspect's right to habeaus corpus until they get a confession. Of course, I'm no legal expert so take all this with a big grain of salt.Sources:1. "Japan’s Prosecution System.” Crime and Justicehttps://doi.org/10.1086/665409.2. My playthrough of Yakuza Kiwami 1 and 2.
>>152997316Both RPG rulebooks are in the mega. Look in the 2024 subfolder.
>>153001864Fair point, would make it tough. Maybe just general “feudal japan” incidents could do (assuming it hasn’t been done already)
>>153002169But what counts as a FEUDAL JAPAN incident and what's just regular Feudal Japan bullshit? Subjective counts are tricky like that. Man it's crazy to think what a silly little joke image made for a defunct hobbyist magazine would snowball into.
>>152996239Wow, Nii really bungled that. Couldn't even kill a guy by backstabbing him, what a doofus.
>>153001281One point about the torture, at least according to Robert van Gulik's forward to The Celebrated Cases of Judge Dee, in the Chinese system the legal authorities were held to a strict standard regarding false convictions. A magistrate found to have executed someone innocent on a forced confession would be subjected to the same tortures and method of execution, as would all of their subordinates also involved in the case.Note that I've not done any research into the truth of this and it may have been a culpability that only existed on paper if that, but I choose to believe in this appropriately feudal method of protecting the rights of the accused.
>>153002220FEUDAL JAPAN is when good or otherwise decent people suffer for the sake of KARMA or HONOR. Regular feudal shit is closer to regular tragedy.
>>153000985They're good books.Someone did a storytime a couple of years ago and I was impressed. Firmly in the young-adult category, but they don't talk down the the audience and can be surprisingly heavy at times.
>>152995696>HE'S>JUST>A>SINGLE>YOUNG>LAD
>>153002287Well again, that's really open to interpretation. Almost every inciting incident in Usagi is a FEUDAL JAPAN incident.
>>153002266That book (and most of the subsequent series) is great. As for the rule concerning magistrates, my understanding is that it was enforced with varying rigor depending on the period – the weaker central authority was, the lower the risk to the magistrate – and the crime rate – nobody's going to quibble with your methods of clearing out a cesspool. But certainly, in theory it was a strict standard indeed.
>>152996677RIP Goat Man, you had an unusually distinctive design for a one-shot antagonist.
>>152995866oh to be a whimsical gnome in feudal scandinavia, knowing i'll never have to deal with the horrors of living in feudal japan.
>>152995863Wow, what a bitch.
>>152995867RIP ghost guy
>>152995875>Momo-Usagi-TaroPeach-rabbit-boy?
>>152995894Huh, the series up to this point predated Kabuki Theater?
>>152995905I would pay money to see that in the present day if I spoke the language. Imagine how incredible a performance like that would have been in a time before film and television.>>152999280kek
>>153002220has there ever been a crossover with conan? feels weirdly appropriate to me.
>>152999280lmao, this one came in handy fast
>>152995905Gave some orphans food and they're already calling him Uncle.
>>153003085Not to my knowledge. Usagi has very few crossovers save for TMNT. There was a team up with Power Rangers.
>>152995995Stray Dog looks kawaii* in that third panel.*[T/L Note: Kawaii means cute]
>>153002847Proto-kabuki started in 1603; this is apparently established with some certainty. Since the present year in the comic is 1605, we can infer that this is the year anything recognizable as "classic" kabuki first appears and catches on, yes. In the real world it might have been a year or two later, who knows.
>>152999506unironically yeah.
>>153002102I've done some reading on this subject and your pretty much right afaik. I'd also add that there is actually a very small amount of prosecutors in Japan compared to the population (i think it was something like 5 thousand in the whole country), and that they don't have trials by juries, instead either going by a small panel of judges, or some weird-ass hybrid thing i don't really understand. So you have a situation where prosecutors have a shit-ton on their plate and all the pressure accompanying it, wide-berth to do whatever they think is necessary to win their case, a system which incentivizes getting confessions over actual evidence, and they only need to convince like three legal professionals who are likely to agree with on any case as opposed to a dozen random schmucks with various opinions. It's a fucked way to administer a justice system.As an aside, those conviction numbers are actually kind of misleading, since you see similar shit with cases in the U.S.. Most prosecutors, unsurprisingly, prefer to stick to cases they can win. The main point here is how they're winning them.
>>152999044>meritocratic>favored free trade and economic development instead of some ultra-protectionist bullshit>receptive to foreign ideas, doesn't restrain himself to cultural orthodoxy>adaptable, willing to think outside the boxI know in the end he would be just as disappointing as Hideyoshi because Feudal Japan, but I like to dream that he'd be a pretty cool Shogun.
>>153003337>Most prosecutors, unsurprisingly, prefer to stick to cases they can win.It's funny, the article I'm citing mentions this specifically.>"Police everywhere, it seems, disdain prosecutors too timorous to charge anything but clear winners (or 'layups' as some American police scornfully put it).So that suggests prosecutors do at least make an attempt to carry out impartial justice if for no other reason than to save face in front of their police colleagues. >The main point here is how they're winning them.One of the article's points, and I agree with it (although again I'm not an expert this is a 'my vibes tell me' deal), is that there was a pretty substantial break from bakufu jurisprudence in the Meiji era. The modern day Japanese legal framework and its obsession with getting a confession as prima facie evidence of guilt is less Confucian autism than German autism: the last big change to their legal code was a series of reforms in 1907 that introduces kaisarreich ideas. The 1907 legal framework, perhaps unsurprisingly, was not radically changed by the American occupation other than a performative 'well at least pretend to be democratic' gloss of legalese paint.>>153003653>pike and shot with Japanese characteristicsGod that would have been so kino.
>>153004007>The modern day Japanese legal framework and its obsession with getting a confession as prima facie evidence of guilt is less Confucian autism than German autismunsurprising. About 90% of Modern Japan's problems originate in the Prussian influence on the Meiji Constitution and other foundations of the legal system. All the shit the military got up to during Taisho and early Showa periods for example was directly the result of them looking at how the Kaiser ruled and thinking it was the best shit ever.
>>153003085>>153003165Most crossovers were with other creator-owned work. Once upon a time they served a purpose as cross-promotional stunts. Even if Conan was published in Dark Horse, as a licensed IP it's not really creator-owned.
>>152999764>caste systems were everywhere in those days, even europe had undesirables like tanners and executionerssure but europe still had some social mobility depending on exact locationfamously Alvar Nunez' ancestor was a fucking goat herder who got elevated to knighthood near on the spot after he pointed out an unknown path to flank an moorish army of Al-NasirMen-at-arms fought hard hoping kings would notice them so they, and their children, could get a parcel of land.>>152999044The downside of a Nobunaga victory would be instability which the optimal japanese solution to would be invading korea again. Tokugawa was an iron fisted ruler but shrewd enough that his system prevented a lot of possible internal conflict that was restricted generally to ronin discontentment
>>152996552Oh fuckKotaro would probably be pissed if he ever found out about this
>>153004826It would only have gotten him feudal japan'd
>>153004848I know but that's basically the only thing he had of either of his parents
>>152999506That was just people he pissed off being literate and writing mean things about him.
>>152995923Didn't Princess Kaguya come from a bamboo shoot?
>>152995691Usagi spitting facts. Honestly he’s on point about how badly they treated beggars and cripples back then. They were basically treated as subhuman. Though it’s ironic how samurai tended to view down on a lot of them when they’re barely better once they’re out of the job.
>>152996000Usagi's meddling senses are tingling.
>>152995863>Sorry about my Ex-Wife.>She was a real bitch.
>>153006035Samurai still have their pride, they exchange the service of their swords instead of being some beggar's guildsman grubbing for each zeni
>>152996027Poison dart? So we got three different ninja clans potentially responsible here.
>>152995863>>152995867It is interesting how people can just become demons and other supernatural monsters purely by being twisted or evil enough in life. You don’t even need to die half the time it just happens.
>>152996027Enter not Columbo.
>>152996231>>152996239His big mistake was taunting Ishida and bragging in an empty room,
>>152997685>>152997797>>152999527The Dragon, in the lore, appears to be quite comfortable with the brutal aspects of old-fashioned feudal Japan, including war crimes and human rights violations. They definitely don’t shy away Crim Genocide. However, considering their significant distance from actual ancient Japanese culture, they have a large number of larpers and a somewhat loose understanding of real fuedal Japanese culture.
>>153002220I wonder if we’ll ever get a Hellboy crossover with Usagi.
>>153006035>how badly they treated beggars and cripples back then.He may have been ruminating over how we treat them today.
Still so behind, finished Circles, fucking heart-wrenching. That's the stuff that really elevates Usagi over being just a great funny animal action comic.I had actually forgotten everyone involved knows about Jotaro. My memory was it was unstated but confirmed somehow, not sure how that would work.
>>153006287Yeah you begin to see why Mariko is actually the fucking worst, arguably as bad as KitsuneThere's still one more piece left but its all warmed up
>>153006336>Mariko is actually the fucking worstI don't think so, should she be more careful not to make it obvious she still loves Usagi? Sure, but knowing you should stop loving someone doesn't really change your feelings. Kenichi is a super good guy, though, and she's lucky to have him, even if she doesn't love him.
>>153006469>I don't think soBefore i begin this are you a new reader or returning?
>>153006480New reader, does she become more shit in later issues?
>>153006487I will refrain from saying more, mostly because i forget just how much longer until we actually see it, I think after grasscutter 2
>>153006487Everything what Mariko did till now can be explained as her trying to do her best in an awfully complex situation. She is married without love, but won't shy away from her duties as the wife of a good and caring man, whom she deeply respects. However, she still loves the true father of her son and doesn't fully trust herself or him not to do anything stupid. Because of that, Mariko asks Usagi to leave his home village, effectively turning him into a mendicant homeless ronin, just so she won't be tempted to break her vows. She also doesn't want to break Jotaro's fantastic relations with his loving step-father (who was happy to adopt and would be shattered if he lost the love of his boy) and tear the family apart, so she tells Usagi the truth only when necessary and with hesitation. For the boy's good, they can't tell Jotaro the truth, nobody can. So Usagi wanders and meddles just so the boy can have a happy life.And then it turns out Mariko did one more thing and it makes you flip the table and foam at the mouth, because 1.) WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT2.) WHY WOULDN'T YOU TRY TO EXPLAIN IT THE FIRST CHANCE YOU GETI get it, she's emotionally torn and distraught, she desperately wants to keep her world together and play the part of Kenichi's faithful wife, but after that one revelation, she seems downright malicious.
>>153004206Usagi looks so hilariously out of place here.
>>153006247Combiggers will watch Sword of Doom and go 'hell yea this is clearly the optimal society.'>>153004502> but europe still had some social mobility>famously Alvar Nunez' ancestor was a fucking goat herder>Men-at-arms fought hard hoping kings would notice themThis was all true in Japan as well. It was only during the Edo period that there was absolutely positively no possible social mobility allowed whatsoeverEXCEPT!That isn't actually true and like a lot of things about Feudal Japan it's an overstatement perpetuated by fiction set in this era to heighten the drama, and the shogunate's own very Asian deliberate myopia between their written policy and actual reality ("if I pretend it's not happening then it hasn't happened and I won't have lost face which is more important than admitting class mobility is not 100% possible to completely suppress").
>>153006254I can imagine a story about them taking down a super charged Jei or some other Yokai.
>>152996047>autopsies are illegal in Feudal Japan Fascinating.
>>153007088He does, it's almost like when Captain Carrot and the Zoo Crew show up in DC's Crisis events.
>>152996067Damn, Ishida's got hands.
>>152996072They're lucky Usagi didn't butt in. Unlike him, Ishida's merciful.
>>152996084>Samurai NattoMan, his parents must have hated him.
>>153007413Touching corpses was considered spiritually polluting, so only the Eta (filthy ones) were allowed to touch corpses.Also, disembodying a corpse was considered bad in shinto-buddhist beliefs, since you are supposed to appear in afterlife in the shape you left this world in.That is why defeated generals and soldiers would get dismembered and defaced, to make them defeated even in death.
>>153002290>Someonethat was our divine founder Dharmanon
>>152996106A man of integrity, a rare sight in Fuedal Japan.
>>153006035>it’s ironic how samurai tended to view down on a lot of them when they’re barely better once they’re out of the job.There's actually a story about this later, believe it or not.
What happened to the drawfag who was doing headshots each thread? I was really looking forward to seeing his takes on some of the characters from Grasscutter or the Ishida mysteries
>>153006035You must remember that they live in a class society.A Samurai is on top of this social totem pole, with the lords, shogun and emperor being on their own separate totem above the samurai.Meanwhile the cripple is of the lowest social class, arguably not even a social cast but an outsider.Not to go into too much detail, but your social class dictated where you could live, who you could associate with , what you could wear, what jobs you could do and much more.I found an article with lots of interesting info while looking into Eta and it gives a nice list of different jobs different classes were allowed to perform.So for example, the town guards/night guards were of Eta class and could move bodies around without a concern.Meanwhile, street performers like Kitsune were of Hinin class, untouchable, but still possible to claw your way into "human" ranks of society.sources: 6.2.1 Eta (Burakumin), 6.2.2 Hinin.Not used in this post but very interesting info: 7.1 Sumptuary Laws and Social Controlhttps://japanesesword.net/blogs/news/life-in-feudal-japan-navigating-the-complex-edo-class-system
>>153008150He said he's probably going to drop a big batch on Monday: >>152986606
>>153008150Drawfriend is taking the weekend off to recharge. He said he'll be back next week with the updated collage.
>>153008202>>153008209Oh I totally missed that, the threads have been moving so fast this year it's hard to keep up with everything
Where to start?
>>153008382First thread of this years storytime.https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/152834882/Earliest thread still available on /co/ archive: >>152846920
>>152996350>...Or maybe I'm dumber then I think!
>>153008382We're only 13 threads in, should be easy to catch up
>>153000389The lord of the province where the town is called Yamahashii, and hes no shogun
>>152997287hope you're enjoying this from your own bed now, anon. please don't go challenging people on the street for duels again. >>153008382you can just reading this very thread if you want, most stories are self contained. we're starting off a little early today: >>153008580
>>153008238Yeah, it's breezing through this year. Granted last year had the 4chan crash for a couple weeks
>>152997445Looks like some islamic scripture lol
>>152999795It feels like his original character concept was just supposed to be an incompetent investigator and he was morphed into more of a Watsonian sidekick.
>>153007088That particular one is just strange in general. It isn't really a proper story, just an excuse to load as many cameos of 90s indie comics as they could.
>>152997683Didnt the Mongol soldiers stranded in Japan after the invasion get enslaved? Also I remember something about the Shogunate thinking that Japan or Sakhailin was connected to Siberia by a land bridge and a constant fear that Siberian tribes could invade from the far north
>>153009054i see spider man the chad fone bone and 20 ish literal whos lol
>>153009409Neat this hit bump limit
>>153010389usagi stonks going up
