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The Amazing Digital Bribery

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OC Anchor

whiteboard
https://r2.whiteboardfox.com/25851792-0702-0056
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https://co.llection.pics/post/list/the_amazing_digital_circus
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NSFW thread:
>>>/trash/83559792
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I just watched the final episode and I am absolutely baffled how people can think 'Jax is le trans'. It's the dumbest fucking take. It's like these people didn't watch the show.

The show is literally about perception, about what makes you, you. Is it your physical aspects or your mind? It's about how your digital (aka, online) persona is different to the one in real life. And rather a rather cliché 'mental health' stuff. Jax isn't trans. They specifically refer to him as 'him' and 'he', yet Zooble is referred to as 'they'. Jax is meant to be whatever you fucking want. Gay, bi, asexual, Enbie, trans, GF etc.
>b-b-but you just sa-
Yes, no shit. He is meant to be 'fill in the blank'. If people want to go 'wow he's trans like me!' cool, but he isn't that. He specifically doesn't say what he said to his mother. He specifically doesn't say what she insulted him with. He specifically is not visually trans in the images and Pomni goes 'Weirdly he goes to Zoobles bar and hangs out there' which is specifically about people 'feeling safe and comfortable'.

Everybody in the Circus uses different mechanisms to cope with their situation. Kinger has a mental break. Ragatha becomes overly eager to please. Gangle becomes submissive. Zooble becomes apathetic and dismissive. Jax became ironic and distance and aggressive. Pomni goes through a lot of these, depending on the episode. Abstraction is mental breaking where you lose who you are under the stress. Linking back to 'are you, you, due to physical stuff or mind?'.

So, again, that's what TADC is about and Jax isn't trans, he is just a stand in for whatever particular thing that may nag at somebody's mind.
>b-b-but Goose said he is...
Okay, Death of the Author. I don't care what they said to get their merch sales to increase. Just like I am not blind to him making Jax the MC because people liked him more than Pomni and it made him more money.
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>>154368874
Goose deleting tweets and Glitch coming out confirming the opposite shows how pissed they are at this ending. And how willing hey are to make more content without her

Jax being saved and apologizing would have been an almost 99% satisfying ending. instead we have something polarizing that's causing massive fights.

There is already a lesiban relationship, and a transgender with zooble, why are these nutters obsessed with having zero straight characters
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are you still cis?
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>>154368891
>They
Gooseworx is multiple people?
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>>154368910
Because they genuinely despise straight people.
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>>154368910
>why are these nutters obsessed with having zero straight characters
Because they hate normality and life
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>>154368916
I am what I am.
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Crikey
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>>154368920
We are Gooseworx.
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>>154368920
every character in TADC is a self-insert
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>>154368920
Are you ESL or something? They can just be a generic reference in a general or unspecified group. Or to refer to somebody whose gender is unknown or IRRELEVANT. So in this particular anon's post, the use of 'they' referring to Gooseworx is irrelevant to his comment about what they said or not.
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>"Hey, Ragatha! Ribbit, Kaufmo and I were just about to head to the café after the adventure. Wanna come?"
>"Uh... I'm flattered, but... you seem really different lately."
>"... What do you mean?"
>"The bows, the longer hair, the... eyelashes."
>"Yeah, I asked Caine to change up my character model! You can just ask him to do that, y'know, you could--- wait, how DO you feel about the eye thing?"
>"The... eye th--- that's not the point! I've known you as one thing since you got here, and now you're completely different."
>"You haven't known me that long... 'sides, what's it matter if I'm happy?"
>"I just-... I think we are the way we are for a reason. Now that we're in here, a lot of parts of us... changed, but the fundamentals are the same. I think it's important we keep that tether to our true selves, in case we ever finally leave one day."
>"... But this IS my true self."
>Ragatha blinks a couple of times, then starts to awkwardly shamble away
>Jax is left standing in the middle of the Tent, then says quietly:
>"... What just happened?"
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>>154368932
I would have given two minutes to his return and living in the circus.

Along with everyones favorite: Orbsman!
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>>154368910
>Jax unabstracts in season 2 without gooseworx, says he's not trans and then wanders off to another world for the rest of the series so he's no longer the focus of the show, maybe showing up in a single episode to help with merch sales
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My mom travels for work and is often away for months at a time.
When she does come home, she usually flies in late, so she likes her room to be clean and her bed freshly washed and made.

I’m happy to oblige because she’s letting me live at home for free while I save up for my own place and it’s a simple request to just want the house clean. Plus, she’s my mom.

She’s been dating this guy and has him over sometimes when she’s in town.

The last time she was here was Thanksgiving and this guy spent the night at our place. I know that him and my mom had intimate relations because I could hear it from my room. Yes gross… but she’s an adult and I’m living at her house. So, it is what it is.

Anyways, she leaves to go back to work the next day without cleaning her room/sheets. And now, she’ll be coming home next week for the holidays.

I told her that I didn’t feel comfortable cleaning her dirty sheets because I don’t want to touch dirty sheets that have *those* bodily fluids on them.

She got pissed off and was saying that it’s not a big deal as housekeepers in hotels clean dirty sheets all the time.

But I stood ten toes down that I’m not touching those sheets even with gloves.

She’s still pissed but said she’ll do it herself but I don’t understand how she doesn’t understand that I actually feel offended that she’d expect me to handle those sheets in the first place.

AITA??
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>>154368960
ironic it's maid jax that says that
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>>154368927
>>154368923
as a gay man, i am sick of tranny bullshit.

Would i like a few gay characters? sure, but if every character turned out gay, jeeze come on.
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>>154368910
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>>154368966
nah, it's the Jax show now
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>>154368891
I think people are just memeing that Jax is trans because Goose did a post about it and everybody with that mentality latched onto it. It is very clear that Jax is a stand in for whatever you want. Sadly cultists will latch onto it and force what they want.

As another anon said, it should have ended with Jax saying he didn't want to go, crying and then hugging Pomni and apologising, hard and truthfully and then Zooble pulls Pomni out and Jax comes with her, because he apologised honestly from his heart and then does the same to all the others. Zooble can then say she still doesn't like him but she didn't want him to abstract and then Caine arrives, shows the clips and Zooble realises she knows Jax IRL and instead of giving a drink to Caine she gives one to Jax.
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>>154368960
>Thinks he’s bugs bunny
>Bugs Bunny is so secure in his masculinity and identity he dresses as a woman explicitly to seduce and tempt men and give them sloppy makeout sessions or even pretend to die while leaving them heartbroken
>Jax has 100% negative security in his identity.
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>>154368985
The jax show was goose's wish, glitch would want to move in a different direction.
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ISN'T SHE LOOOOOOOOOOVELY
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>>154368997
Their direction is Jax is popular
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>as revenge, Caine puts them through an adventure that reveals their darkest secrets
>it's not subtle, it's literally AI characters saying them

>Jax is insecure with his masculinity becasue he's 5'2"
HEY!
>KINGER BLAMES HIMSELF FOR THE ABSTRACTION OF HIS WIFE!
yeah, it's my fault she came with me
>Jax is still a virgin at 22!
HEY, QUIT IT!
>Pomni is insecure because she is often mistaken for a child, even at work!
Um, that's... yeah it's really embarrassing
>Jax had a gay experience when he was 14 and is scared of intimacy ever since
WHAT THE, STOP DOING ME!
>Zooble gets tattoos because she is mad at her dad for leaving when she was 8!
Shut up Jax
I didn't say anything!
Whatever virgin boy!
>Jax's penis is two standard deviations below average size!
SHUT UP THATS NOT TRUE!
>Yes it is!
ARRRRGGHHHHHH
Hah, new it
>Ragatha thinks nobody likes her because her mother was a bitch
Oh...
>Jax doesn't know how to drive because his parents were scared he would run away with a strange man after what happened when he was 14!
I AM GOING TO KILL MYSELF AND EVERYONE ELSE HERE!
>Gangle writes erotic fanfiction about the other circus members
I'm going to just throw my comedy mask away
>JAX
NO MORE! STOP THIS NOW, PLEASE!
[zooble] no no go on, let's here it
>HAS A HUGE CRUSH ON POMNI!
WHAT THATS NOT TRUE
>WHICH CONFUSES HIM BECASUE HE'S NEVER HAD A CRUSH ON ANYONE AND THOUGHT HE WAS ASEXUAL
THAT IS A DIRTY LIE! HE'S LYING!
>Caine is scared that you'll work out how to leave and deactivate him, or leave him alone forever
wait, what? you mean we can leave? it's possible
>JAX IS
NOT AGAIN
>TOTALLY UNAWARE THAT
PLEASE STOP
>POMNI HAS A HUGE CRUSH ON HIM TOO, COMPLETELY UNAFFECTED BY THE NEWS THAT HE'S A SHORT, SMALL PENIS VIRGIN
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>>154368960
Except he is referred to as he throughout the show and even voice over Pomni calls him 'him' and 'he'. But called Zooble 'they'.
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>>154369012
that's very simmilar to one of my greentexts.

What i mean is, i really like this
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>>154368883
May I request something funny? Ragatha having a nightmare about marrying her mother. Any design choice for her mother is fine with me.
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>>154368999

Pomni is
-Lovely
-Pretty
-Precious
-Wonderful
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>>154369012
>POMNI IF SHE COULD CHOOSE, WOULD HAVE CHOSEN THE GUMMY ALLIGATOR OVER JAX IF SHE WAS FORCED TO CHOOSE
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>>154369024
I thought it was you.
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>>154369034
shockingly not, but it got me hard i took cialis a few days ago and my god i have been jerking it to so much Jax porn
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>>154368910
>Glitch coming out confirming the opposite
Link?
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>>154369033
Jax, that's past tense, I don't feel that way anymore!
>That's true, but mostly because she realized Gummi wouldn't let her peg him and Jax would!
HEY!
Yeah HEY!
>Jax totally would by the way! as long as you call him a good boy!
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>>154368992
Jax is playing a macho bravado, he thinks "oh I'm such a masculine man that even if I wear this dress (ironically) I'm still mogging every male in the room", not realizing that no one confident in their masculinity thinks like that
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>>154368945
Gooseworx is a man.
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>>154369065
Yeah but he also thinks he’s Bugs Bunny which is why they had that whole segment with Zooble. Yet Trans Bugs Bunny wouldn’t even be a fraction of the little bitch Jax. Unless he’s dealing with his worst enemy: The fucking Turtle.
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>>154369065
How are men who are actually confident in their masculinity supposed to think in a situation like that? asking for a friend....
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>>154369071
>I truly am the last man standing in this amazing digital Quake® III Arena™ match
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>>154368976
I'm bi and I completely agree. They're cultists.
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>>154369012
I'm so glad that Goose making Jax graphically kill himself hasn't made these kind of scenarios any less fun
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>>154369087
Yes and that anon called him 'him' and 'he'. Again, his gender in that particular sentence is irrelevant, especially when it has already been established to be masculine. Hence why 'they' is used. I ask again, are you ESL?
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How is Caine still alive in episode 9?
I thought Kinger deleted him in previous episode
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>>154369071
Kinger has always been best boy in the show.
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>>154369108
Because computers are basically just magic in this universe and do whatever the show requires, even if it goes against how they should work. In short, themes and such
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>>154369071
Jax is his new wife
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>>154369093
That something must be deeply wrong with you if you identify with Jax.

Identify with Bugs Bunny, but never a Jax. Bugs Bunny is who the Jax of the world wish they could be.
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Poor Pom
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>>154369012
>I AM GOING TO KILL MYSELF AND EVERYONE ELSE HERE
Wow! He really is trans!
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>>154369104
If you know his gender, why do you insist on calling him "they?" This is what you guys do, act like these perversions of reality are just simple conveniences.
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>>154369100
Personally, I prefer the Jax humiliation to be more internalized. Jax being actively humiliated by others is very different to his personal insecurities causing his issues and externalize these issues onto someone else.

That's why Jaxtraction doesn't have an antagonist, someone to blame for their problems, in the way Caine caused most of the circus problems
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>>154369114
This is an insult to Edgerunners and Reze Arc.
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>>154369108
My 11 year old explained that the void is the recycle bin. He wasn't fully erased, and restored himself.
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Is it just me or does jax being a tranny enhance him as a character?

I want an insecure racist homophobic troll femboy tranny faggot bunny bf
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>>154369114
>Good and gets a decent epilogue in Wuthering Fucking Waves of all things
>Good
>S2 was garbage
>Denji lives to be pathetic. Themes and such.
>Abuser and it’s enabler even after Abusers literal suicide.
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So if the show is supposedly "character focused' than lore focused like you all say, then why are vague lore drops constantly dropped in the first place?
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>>154369138
Good heavens
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>>154369139
Your 11 year old is retarded and should learn how console deletion works.
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>>154368928
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>>154369120
That’s school shooter behavior.

Granted the like 2-3 trans school shooters have all tried it do it to be just like the straight boy school shooters.
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>>154369142
To make it seem deep and keep people interested long enough to pull the rug and reveal it was actually about Jax all along.
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>>154369140
>Redpill to Femboy pipeline is real
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>>154369151
Why was an insult needed here?
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>>154369161
Literally me
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>>154368960
This is about him looking stupid. They're talking about how they look stupid. 3 times he looks himself in the mirror and every 3 times he comments he looks stupid.
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>>154369093
if you're confident in yourself you're ok with it and maybe laugh about it, take a few pictures for fun, if it's something you have to do like for job or whatever (idk if you're an actor I assume) you just do it and don't even think about it, if you have complexes and try to justify it (I'm doing it ironically, I'm actually super masculine even while wearing this, etc) then you have a problem and should do some introspection, something Jax never did.
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>>154369162
>2 or 3
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>>154369172
>When GOP gather in large enough numbers GRINDR always has server issues at the same time from overuse.
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Where is my trans to cis pipeline character redemption?
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>>154369141
>too dumb to understand Fujimoto
Denji won.
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>>154369191
Yes the number is very low. The ones that do it want to be like the majority which are normal straight boys.
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>>154369191
Does Randy Stair count?
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>>154369172
>the redpill was an estrogen pill all along
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>>154369204
Fujimoto’s wanting it to be thematic doesn’t mean it doesn’t suck. Reze completely disappears for a reason cause she was always disposable and it didn’t matter in the grand scheme of things for the same reason
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>>154369196
It does not. How would that happen with modern internet services and HaaS?
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>>154369140
yes because it deepens him, it gives a meaningful reason to his actions and beliefs, he wasn't just insecure boy n#9999 that acted like a jerk because of it
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>>154369209
>what is accountability
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>>154369142
same as evangelion, they're there just to give vague context about what's happening so you're not totally lost but the point is the characters
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>>154368872
Looks like we've got a ton of The Amazing Digital Circus threads! Feel free to check out whichever ones catch your eye.

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>>154352623
>>154365585
>>154368638
>>154346259
>>154365766
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>>154369227
What are the themes if it’s only about themes?
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>>154369188
yeah I wonder why he thinks he looks stupid in his male body...
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I think all that matters is that Jax lost, got humiliated, and it was funny.
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>>154369261
he's a fucking purple rabbit
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>>154369252
Whats funny is that every collab or SRW where you remove Gendo from Shinji’s vicinity instantly has his and the other pilots lives improve a hundred fold.
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>>154369270
It was funny until it became this show's whole identity.
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>>154369266
Me on the right
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>>154369189
I remember in highschool a female classmate decided to put makeup on the boys, like super feminine with glitter and that sort of shit, we all joked about it and took pictures, but one guy was clearly distraught and on the verge of tears and rushed off to clean asap, I wonder how he's doing now
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>>154369149
It's the ship that Jax needed.
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>>154369295
Dangling most likely
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>>154369276
That’s because Gendo is simultaneously the worst dad ever, and a dark reflection of who Shinji could grow up to be.
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>>154369233
Servers can still have crashes from too many people using it. Arizona literally had Grindrs servers crash at the same time as Charlie Kirk’s memorial, and they always have issues whenever those happpen.
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>>154369138
Are you planning to put out some more Kinger x fem Jax art?
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>spin off mini series of 4 episodes
>it's about Gummigoo, Abel and Orbsman as a team in the void
>their side of the void is more like a giant digital junkyard
>things have gotten a bit crazier out of nowhere
>they hear from other npcs(new characters to us that are from adventures before pomni)
>they adventure, bond and learn
>they find the blue AI(it can be creative but it can't put it to good use without caine and so it keeps spamming props turning the place into an actual junkyard)
>they talk or fight but either ways the blue AI decides they should be Caine's problem.
>it launches the trio upwards super hard and they land right on one of the floating islands making up the new circus map
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>>154369273
>aren't you supposed to be miserable about the ability to choose your own body or something?
>I'm starting to not mind
>how about that....
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The way I see it Caine can create but can't be creative anymore which is why the members help him make adventures now
But Bubble is the other way around. It has a billion ideas but without Caine it's just unable to put them to any meaningful use
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>>154369261
So its about his mom. You're going to cry looking that stupid? Purple bugs bunny having panic attack in public toilet, man you look stupid.
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>>154369324
Also he’s bald.
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>>154369314
I'm not him I just saved the image, I hope he does
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>>154369304
>>154369138
>>154369314
>>154369071
Why does this pair actually kind of work
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>>154369099
>>154368976
You faggots are gonna bite the curb right after we're done with the trannies
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>>154369308
it's not a real server, it's virtual and can instantly scale

>Arizona literally had Grindrs servers crash at the same time as Charlie Kirk’s memorial,
Grindr put out a press release that this was false. We get it, you hate gay people, you literally call political opponents gay as an insult and make up elaborate gay conspiracies.

So what is your point? you think Gay men are conservative?
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>>154369373
>he thinks i live in the west
ew, western women
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>>154368910
>Glitch coming out confirming the opposite
When did they do that? Was it on social media or something?
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Carving the word 'human' into the chest of my stupid mannequin body so that people stop thinking I'm an NPC
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>>154369361
Because you forgot about Kingers wife.
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>>154369361
the emotionally stable, ready to support others, even if a bit dumb character, with the trauma riddled dysphoric character that need reaffirmation, it's a good pair.
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>>154369279
The show's whole identity was already Jax since episode 5. At least Jax being an incel, inflation, lobotomized, cuck, asian, misogynistic, transbian broad who cuts herself is a punishment for ruining the show.
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>>154369392
>till death do us part
Kinger is free meat
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>>154369392
You can't grieve forever, you gotta move on at some point.
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>>154369377
>Pomni literally only draws Jax
>pomni forgets then when she unabstracts Jax
>he finds the pictures at some point
>then he finds the "pictures"
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>>154369387
I assume they refer to the post with pomni eating a sandwitch with abstracted Jax, it's just a bitterweet image, I have no idea how anyone could interpret that as confirming the AU trans version of Jax the author posted is wrong lmfao
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Pomni eating with Jax is just confirmation that he doesnt go to the aquarium eith his friends and stays alone in the tent all day while the others go adventuring
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>>154369373
Lol sure thing, guy
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A nice wholesome Ragapom bath
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>>154369463
I'm still disappointed that Ragatha's body wasn't all patchwork like this
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>>154368910
They didn't deconfirm Jax was trans. All they confirmed is Pomni's actually keeping him as a pet in the tent. This month has been a constantly increasing nightmare for anyone that likes Jax kek.
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>>154369379
I think a lot of conservative men are indeed deeply in the closet and would be much happier if they could come out without becoming pariahs in their own communities, and I think they take their frustration out on openly gay men in more tolerant communities because they resent openly gay men for doing what they can't do themselves. And as long as there are people who keep trying to enforce the idea that "gay = bad", that's just gonna keep happening, because it's a self-reinforcing cycle of misery. I don't think that goes for all conservatives, or all homophobes in general, but I do think that goes for at least some of them.
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>>154369400
She’s not dead though?
>>154369402
Actually you kinda can Grieving can hit you at anytime it’s like a scar that stings from time to time.
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>>154369482
>they confirmed is Pomni's actually keeping him as a pet in the tent
That has alredy been shown in the credits
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Here's my headcanon
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>>154369489
I feel the same way about a lot of leftist’s who get made at conservatives celebrating America, like they want to but they can’t because they’ll be ostracized by there community but they long to go to a family BBQ and drink beer watch the fireworks and catch up with cousins, aunts and uncles.
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Poor Jesse
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>>154369509
I demand justice for my boy Bizco
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>>154369012
>Ragatha is actually extremely conservative and doesn't believe transgenders are actually real but she still honors their pronouns and sexual orientations out of fear of being ridiculed or ostracized!
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>>154369520
Aaah, I get it now. Shes in the closet!
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>>154369520
Oh my god the locked door was the "happy ending" what-if from goose's twitter
It's literally what Jax thinks it would happen if he hadn't been a weirdo to Ribbit...
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>>154369520
FemJax is probably still a cunt lets be real
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>>154369505
Some were saying they transferred him permanently to the aquarium even though they kept the tent up at the end.
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>>154369518
Maybe society should just stop trying to discourage people from being who they want to be with the threat of becoming social outcasts. Maybe, just maybe, everyone needs to start cutting each other some slack, instead of trying to one-up each other out of spite and egotism, before the pathological urge to "win battles" destroys us all.
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>>154369540
Why? The only reason Jax acts like a cunt is to drive people away from finding out about his insecurities. He wasn't a cunt before his talk with Ribbit, so why would he suddenly be a cunt if he was no longer insecure about himself?
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>>154369509
Ribbit deserves an apology but nothing else. If I had it my way I would for that abstracted queer rabbit retard meld with her abstracted form like Pomni did with him and go into her mindscape to apologize directly to her for being such a spastic fucking idiot. Ribbit wouldn't want to come back though even if Jax unabstracted, you can't mend a relationship like that after someone thoroughly wrecking balls your trust and confidence.
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>>154369557
Troons are generally really spiteful and unpleasant to deal with.
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>>154369554
Why do you think society owes you anything?
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>>154369569
Ribbit shouldn't have to pin her whole identity on the asshole closeted tranny. She should come back and be friends with Pomni.
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>>154369557
Because he'd make up new shit to be insecure about because hes fucking Jax.

>Ragatha goes up to her "Hey jaxxine/Jesse, your hair looks really nice today!"
>Jax takes the compliment but seethes later because "she's just like my mom trying to fake compliments"
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it's over?
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>>154369557
Real life isn't a Disney movie, people don't just change how they treat people because they are "accepted," that's an extremely naiive and transactional way at looking at how people interact. If Jax wasn't legitimately a terrible fucking person, he would have handled his insecurity in a different way than waging psychological warfare on his closest friends.
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>>154369571
>>154369585
>>154369593
Guess that must be why Lee is so miserable when we see her
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Ragatha's "fake nice" allegations would only stick if Jax started femming and she was resentful at Jax about it
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>>154369549
Kek
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>>154369591
never
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>>154369584
Ribbit's entire world consisted of 4 people before Jax came, making it 5. Their entire existence is literally hanging out with each other and playing stupid minigames that Caine comes up with. They don't even need to sleep; Jax and Ribbit could have developed a bond in a single year as strong as friends who have known each other for ten times that amount of time. In a place like the digital circus, yes, your entire persona would become just the people that you happen to be stuck with.
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>>154369591
Isn't it?
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>>154369361
Without the senility he's a normal, functional adult man.
And Jax is a fag.
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>>154369104
>his gender in that particular sentence is irrelevant, especially when it has already been established to be masculine. Hence why 'they' is used
And you're the one assuming anon doesn't know how English works?
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>>154369616
Isn't it over?
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>>154369577
Because I pay my taxes.
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>>154369557
she wouldn't immediately get over her insecurities even if coming out would already be a pretty big jump
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>>154369611
All these discussions lead back to
>Yes. The world is better off without Jax.
Not that it's wrong, though. He had no redeeming qualities.
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>>154369624
Why can't I move on?
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>>154369384
Oh even easier, you're probably some sea monkey. I tell the local imam about you and you get a free flight ticket without a plane.
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>>154369632 (me)
I didn't mean to reply to that anon.
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>>154369577
See, that's the problem right there. Selfishness is what will destroy the world in the end. Selfishness turns into greed, and then greed turns into "FUCK ALLA YOU, IF I CAN'T HAVE IT NO ONE CAN!!!!!" Only in this case "it" is the entire planet.
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>>154369639
Because Greg drove a van in her “heart”’and here you are whining like a wet fart.
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>>154369509
The ones that can be revived through their connections with the living cast can probably also revive the ones that are "super dead".
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How about an adventure where we force Zooble to be straight (choking her)
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>>154369453
AIDS super spreaders gotta be contained. Please face the wall for public health.
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>>154369618
someone is violently gooning to the idea of being transformed into a barely sentient big dog and being fed sandwiches by a jester girl
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>>154369540
Yeah, but (you) would tolerate it more because she’s cuter then Jax
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>>154368891
Yeah I also got surprised by the whole trans thing. I always thought he was normal. But apparently everyone but King is gay. Whatever really.
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>>154369540
As she should
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>>154369482
>This month has been a constantly increasing nightmare for anyone that likes Jax kek.
I used to mock jaxfags but now I merely pity them.
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>>154368960
apparently he was just "pretending to be male" since ep1, or so the author said.
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>Character is mentally ill
>Attacks everyone, even family members
>Fucking kills himself
"He's literally me!"
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Rest in pepperonis Jax <3
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>>154369658
>>154369667

No, I would hate her even more
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>>154369670
You can do both. I feel bad for them, but I didn't like Jax and the memes are fun.
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>>154369647
She'll come back one day, and then she'll know how much I loved her all along.
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>>154369680
>>Attacks everyone, even family members
his abusive mother?
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>>154369688
What is alastor doing here
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>>154369680
you mean his abusive mother, who was assaulting him at the time?
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>>154369670
Meanwhile gummiwho sits in the corner, forgotten
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>>154369680
>>154369676
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>>154369657
>Jax, you have to eat all the sandwiches.
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>>154369688
Why isn't Jonesy or the fish there?
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>>154369688
kek
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I don't know you guys, but I feel like I was lied. I thought this was a nice, normal deep series. But now I find out all is trans and gay since the very beginning.
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>>154369716
>Please don't make me get the drill again, Jax. You know it hurts me as much as it hurts you.
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>>154369708
That comic is OOC. Jax would tell Ragatha to get in the bed with Pomni.
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>>154369736
"Ragatha! Come fuck Pomni, I'm busy!"
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>>154369705
Dont test me tranny bunny

>>154369695
On second thought pity is wasted on them
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>>154369745
Jax would want her to do it even when he isn't busy. She is his BVLL and he gets JOY out of watching her KEK him. Ragatha probably feels gross about the whole thing, but happy she gets to be with Pomni at least.
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thr circus didn't deserve ragatha
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>>154369759
Yeah, but he's too insecure to admit that, so he would just come up with new excuses each time as to why Ragatha should come fuck Pomni instead.
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>>154369772
This is in-character kek
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>>154369482
Pomni is comforting abstract Jax the best way she knows how.
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>>154369767
>Jax technically un-abstracted
>he only came back as a literal rabbit
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>>154369671
that's not what being trans means and I don't think you realize the point of those screenshot, I'm not your ally little chud.
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>>154369770
I will never forgive Goose for robbing us of featurelesskino by pushing le seggs update.
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>unironically using the term chud
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>>154369759
they're having constant orgies
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Does anyone have that pic of the Gummigoo + Ribbit + Pomni + Jax orgy?
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>>154369750
His merch sells alot he was in the curtain call and is literally glued to Pomni's back in the forrnite collab so
Gummyguys are fine
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>>154369798
Nah, Jaxxy likes to watch. That's why she pushed away Ribbit. She was hoping Ribbit would go to Ragatha for "comfort". Ragatha is hated for a reason.
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>Accounts saying Colonize the show
Twitter is on the special stuff
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>>154369778
what does a little jester need so much food for?
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>>154369793
What if I use it ironically? What then, chud?
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>>154369781
That's fine, we'll take back the world anyways
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Posting a link to a funnybunny comic whose artist bizz_arts just deleted her account and said she'd no longer do TADC art. It was reposted here. I wanted to post links to all pages but it says it's spam. Follow the links in this post for the rest of the pages:

>>154365066
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>>154369827
vore practice
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>>154369482
SHE IS STILL TRYING TO FIX HIM
HOLY FUCKING KEK
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>>154369833
>deletes their social media presence because the show doesn't confirm their ship
holy shit what a pussy
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>>154369697
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>>154369851
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>>154369846
pomni doesn't give up, the world doesn't deserve her
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Caine lived, Jax dieeeeeeeeeed! Caine lived and Jax diiiiiiiiiiiiiiied!
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>>154369833
Yeah, 4chinz prevents you from linking too many posts at once as a feeble antispam measure.
also fuck fuck fuck FUCK I HATE DELETIONISTS I HATE ENTROPY I HATE THE SLOW MARCH OF TIME ACROSS OUR COLLECTIVE MEMORIES
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the evil counterparts are cute, wish they were utilized more
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>>154369867
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>>154369822
Big head, big appetite.
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Funnybunny <3
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>>154369884
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>>154369874
It's a shame that they both met their fate in an equally contrived and poorly written manner.
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>>154369850
ackshually it was because of christcuck lunacy
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>>154369846
>>154369868
>Pomni can never let go of her abuser
I feel so bad for her.
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poomni from the amazing fecal circus
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>>154369846
>Hey Pomni do you have a type

>I like bad boys

>Then why are you still hanging out with Jax? He’s a closeted tranny!

>I know he’s so bad at being a boy it's hot.
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>>154369509
My theory is that the original C&A cast quickly put together what they are and chose to die after Scratch's abstraction showed it was possible. Because Kinger had Queenie, and overall had more positive outlook in their situation, he didn't find their existence meaningless and chose to stay, but Queenie still found it pointless and died. The next abstraction was Ribbit, and thats when Ragatha learns that abstracting was possible. The nameless circus members that are only briefly seen in doors are incomplete scans of C&A members.
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>>154368991
>think people are just memeing that Jax is trans because Goose did a post about it and everybody with that mentality latched onto it

>Creator is trans
>Makes art of what he created being "ironically" trans
>Makes more art with alternative of his suicide is him being a trans cuck.

Wtf am I supposed to think here?
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>>154369907
Gangle going to crash out about this I think
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Gangle and Zooble beating some sense into Pomni's big head
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>>154369897
Yeah, but at least Caine isn't getting a constant humiliation ritual. Well, it was confirmed the moon tops, but still nothing nearly as bad as Jax.
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>>154369940
I require TADC vorefics.
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>>154369881
>Ragapom with a Ragamom Ragadom
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>>154368910
>Jax being saved and apologizing would have been an almost 99% satisfying ending.
Personally I would have found it to be utterly gutless, done merely to please wholesome enjoyers and to prevent rabid Jaxfags from burning your house down. I'm not against happy endings per se, I don't even dislike power of friendship, but abstraction was presented from the start as the only real consequence in this virtual world, and choosing to make it reversible right at the very end juuust for the Tumblr sexyman would have been a massive copout.
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Lil' Pom
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>>154368994
Accurate.
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>>154369688
can't tell if this is ironic or someone genuinely drew this
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>>154369919
it just occured to me that queenie and kinger could have had a similar scenario play out as the father and mother from the road. fucking shit i think i would choose to forget if i was kinger too
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>>154369912
kek
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>>154369912
posts like these really highlight how being a troon is mostly a fetish
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>>154369893
KEK
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>>154369482
>Pomni's actually keeping him as a pet
>Pomni's va is a white woman
You just know.
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>>154369949
>>154369836
>Look Jax, I know we don't get along, but I think I found a way to cure your vore fetish
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Bunny Jax
Hamster Pomni
Gecko Gummigoo
Birdy Zooble
Rhyno Gangle

What about the others? What critter would ragatha be?
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>>154369925
You laugh at how much Jax got BTFO'd.
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>>154369661
Kinger is only 'allowed' to be straight as he's also the uwu safe soft chungus wholesome daddy with a black girlfriend who probably pegs him which in modern writing is ironically the token straight and as close to being gay as possible

The entire cast are fags spiritually
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>>154370042
Gangle es gato !!!
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>>154370042
a horse, i would imagine.
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Would you?
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>>154370069
>ragamarecock
god YES
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Okay so
Bunny Jax
Hamster Pomni
Gecko Gummigoo
Cat Gangle
Birdy Zooble
Pony Ragatga
Froggy Ribbit
Doggy Scratch

Unsure what Kinger/Queenie and Kaufmo ahould be
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>>154369688
Joblastor...
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>>154369925
Goorseworx is somehow troon Uncle Ruckus
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>>154370128
More like Uncle Ack-ass, amirite?
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ragatha sexo
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>>154370050
I feel like gangle would fuck a guy under the right circumstances, they just didn't emerge in the show.
I also feel bad for the 2-3 gay people who thought they could ship jax and kaufmo after episode 9 broke that multiple times over.
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>>154370069
What about a pony
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are ribbun posters still around? do abstrabbit posters even exist?
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>>154370229
Most shippers fucked off
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>>154370050
What about the side characters?
>OrbsMAN is aa manly as it gets
>Gummigoo got jester drooling for him that one time
>Baron killed an angel and his wife(she didnt seem to mind)
>Kaufmo.
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>>154370180
Fair that must suck. I feel bad for the straight girls watching this shit who just wanted Jax to be their edgy little problematic sexyman they can fix while self inserting as Pomni

Go watch any Youtube reaction to ep 9 by a woman who isn't blatantly gay, they all amusingly clock the bow on head = trans thing but then kinda short circuit at wanting to accept it and call Jax a she, which they then totally forget at the lampost scene desperately wanting Pomni to magically fix him with a hug, none of them look pleased as he's lead into the cuck tent as a dog

Fuck the Jax self inserter dudes, they will get over it, they have one foot in the closet to begin with lets be real, think of the poor straightoid foids! They were robbed...
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Despite getting no focus Ragathugs were the true winners because they love her no matter how little she gets, and she was proven right in the narrative
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>>154369093
>>154369189
>If you're CONFIDENT about your masculinity you just put on a dress make out with dude and don't think about it

Or you could.... y'know.... Say no I'm doing that gay shit? Don't make a scene or get angry about it, but no you don't have to be humiliated at the behest of others.
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>>154370326
Ragatha and Bubble were the only characters uncorrupted by the end
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>>154370301
Gummies an ACEsexual
Orbsman lets men handle his orbs
Baron
Kaufmo has too much a hardon for exits to be that straight
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>>154369850
Shippers in a nutshell
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>>154369881
I'm so tired of this shit. People create art that thousands of people enjoy, then they have a melty and nuke everything
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>>154370384
This is why I always tell people to save the things they enjoy. The internet is forever, until it's not.
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@grok is this real???
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>>154369306
just like jax
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>>154370416
crikey
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>>154369960
>>154369688
There's 2 gummigoos and fucking Alastor
What do you think
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>>154369798
Ragatha needs to be in these
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>>154370345
Caine had repent hard hat in hand and everything but safe to say he's happier then he's ever been
Zooble and Kinger too, Gangle barely passes because that one awful scene of hers was fortunately cut
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>>154370411
Absolutely, but even if you obsessively archive art, you'll still miss a few, and there is no platform where you can even ask others to reupload it because in the grand scheme of things, most art is too niche, and people are averse to reposting art.
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>>154370537
No, keep that disgusting freak away from ragatha
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>>154370416
Down unda!!!
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uhmmm Ragathugs? our response?
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>>154370606
hey Pomni, what's with that vaguely-small-alligator-shaped bulge at the crotch of your jester getup?
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>>154368994
abstraction jax is way to damn cute here
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>>154370384
I don't understand the deletionist mindset. Once you put something out there, it's kinda out of your hands, you gotta just be willing to commit before hitting post. I have turbo cringe from like 10 years ago that's still passively out there.
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>>154370617
Humina, followed by more of the same
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Gonna hyperfocus on deltatroon now
Thanks for this shitty ending nooseworx, I hope it was worth it.
See you faggots, funnybunny still won.
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So, let me get this straight:
>Ribbit abstracted because Jax told her he didn't want to talk to her anymore because he felt bad over feeling pressured into sharing some of the most sensitive details of his life with her, and nobody reached out to help her for some reason
>Kaufmo abstracted because he... went insane trying to figure out the exit for a reason that was never explained, and all Jax did was act dismissively towards him

How the fuck am I supposed to see Jax as being entirely responsible for their abstractions when it seems like he had barely anything to do with them?
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>>154370637
Nta but I unironically had an artist ask me for as much of their art they purged as possible when they resurfaced
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>>154369093
dunno but the scene where Pomni tells him to fight back and he does and he goes completely silent as he strangles her really vibed with me
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>>154370649
I finally finished Undertale (true pacificst obv)
Holy power of friendship, I am truly healed
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>>154370623
She's pregnant!!
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>>154370649
Its live in 10mins right?
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The finale answers the question of jax's aggressive behavior by telling us that he comes from a broken home with a father who left which cause his mother to emotionally to abused him, which lead to an argument where jax might have killed her, sinking him into deep guilt, and then causing the analogous suicide of his best friend leading to more guilt, giving him the feeling that all he can do is hurt people.
But then, the writer, on social media, after the fact, basically just sez his trauma is unmentioned tranny stuff, bypassing the physical assault thing. And then wonders why there's a backlash.
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>>154370581
Yeah, you won't get everything, but you'll get what really matters to you.
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>>154370662
The show can't decide if Jax is evil and deserved what he got, or if Jax was misguided and a tragic victim of self-blame. Leaving it ambiguous isn't clever or deep, it just hinges the series on a bananas toxic question of "What do you think, kids, do some people deserve to kill themselves?"
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>>154370687
trannies are retarded and can't into character growth
they literally think all their problems will go away if they wear a dress
exactly how incels think about sex and their virginity, because trannies are simply autistic incel men who fell way off the deep end
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>>154370665
Wait, like because they lost it in the purge? They didn't save it themselves?? How do they not keep the original file? That's insanity
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>>154370679
Ah- W-well, ungh... It's- ah! ...possible...!
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>>154370741
pregnant pomni would be hot
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The real reason the show is only 9 episodes is because if the show had kept going then Caine's eyes would have eventually grown so large that they would cover the entire screen every time he was on it.
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>>154370716
>Queenie gave him the pass
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>>154370741
>Most healthy way of handling mommy issues
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>>154370617
my response is to smack her ass and say "damn girl you could get it"
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>>154370695
Don't forget the tonal whiplash from the first half to the second half of the series.

For the first half Jax is virtually entirely his bugs bunny style sarcastic jerk. Then gooseworx decides its the jax show and jax becomes emotionally and physically abusive in a non cartoony way by the time we get to the finale.

>>154370739
They meltdowned and deleted everything semi regularly so I knew what to do
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>>154369520
artist?
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>>154370662
if you actually watched the show and had even the most basic capacity for connecting the dots you'd know he did more than that
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>>154370667
Very nice. Finishing it for the first time is a great experience.
You're in for a wild ride with Deltarune.
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>let's give a guy all of the psycological mind break under the sun, a combination of every issue every person in the circus had to face in the worst enviroment possible and when he inevitability fails to get better we'll just call it a cautionary tale
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>>154369314
It is criminal that they did not interract at all.
Only in a short.
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>>154370745
Perhaps.... But is Pomni even ready for motherhood?
https://files.catbox.moe/iswcrq.PNG
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>>154370783
It's honestly such a crazy writing choice and makes Goose look like such a retarded weirdo, whether it's this way because she didn't get how it would come off or because she gets how it comes off and think it makes sense
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>>154370783
Don't forget that the character that caused a dozen abstractions gets redeemed and not just that accepted as a friend.

Hell, arguably if he let circus members change their forms, Jax might have picked one as a fresh start and never have been depressed in the first place
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i guess jax was a good training for how to deal with an angsty confused teenage son but I mean she did let him kill himself....
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Post-Ep9 Headcanon Manga

by Kakuzatoudayo
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>>154369071
>kinger is assigned to impregnate every female cast member but can't because he'll never betray his wife
everyones going to abstract because kinger won't fill them up with little pawns it's so fucking over
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>>154370815
Holy fuck I love Mojo Jojo so much, this feels like getting a text from an old friend
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>>154370822
Several Months After That Incident

>...
>How're you doing?
>Jax

>It's been several months
>I'm surprised how fast time's gone by

>...hey, do you remember?
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>>154370821
feels awesome
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>>154370837
>when we were on the same team

>how we let loose
>and messed around

>It was a lot of fun.

>So...
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>>154370849
>I want you to come back.

>I know that's impossible

>but still, I...
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>>154370768
By bagosmarijuanos
https://x.com/bagosmarijuanos/status/2069545731396976660?s=46&t=x-UoRDsr0D1ew-D9jkPxaQ
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>>154370858
>Jax...
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President Pomni ordering a nuclear strike on Jaxhen Bin Transehn
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>>154370872
>Jax
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>>154369689
Jesse will hit you, then act all pitiful and dramatic when you try to hit her back because how dare you hit a woman, whatever happened to chivalry
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>>154370886
>Long time no see, Pomni.
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>>154370898
Post-ep9 heacanon Jax...
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>>154368883
Just wanted to shill my story again. New chapter of Social Coping Mechanisms is out. In this chapter, Pomni has a talk with Caine.

ao3.org/works/86942991/chapters/230185736

Also, holy FUCK the author of Backpropagation commented on my story and liked it I feel so fucking giddy over that
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>90% of new Pomni art is going to be her talking to Jax in his tent
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>>154369541
In the ending it is seen how he is still in the tent
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>>154370301
>>Kaufmo.
Is voiced by the gayest man on Youtube so is uber-gay by proxy
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>>154370313
Link the best Jaxfoid reactions.
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>>154370921
So cool, I'm going to read it when I'm finished with work.
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>>154370921
wow i just saw the comment congrats man, good chapter as well got me hooked
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>>154370921
>the author of Backpropagation commented on my story and liked it
Nice, just try not to forget us when you make it big
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>>154370783
>drowning in frussy and clussy
>still decides to be a faggot about it
Fuck Jax and fuck Jax fags.
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>>154368891
It's simple.
One or two of his photos show a vaguely effeminate emoish guy, and that he goes to zooble's bar- you know, the Queer one with they/them pronouns. And there was the thing with the maid dress.

So trannies go OMG SHES SO ME OMG.

which is telling, considering he literally pushes all of his friends away to the point they both abstract, and then basically kills himself.
Hm. Maybe he is trans after all.
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Okay deltarune comes out today so im probably done with digital circus till gooseworx caves and makes more

But im still upset that Caine literally gets away with all the abstractions he caused and torment be inflicted and comes back to life, while jax gets sent to super abstraction hell for all eternity

Seems sort of arbitrarily cruel
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>>154371030
Caine is just cool and Jax isn't.
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jax lost
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>>154371058
>Caine is just cool
lmfao
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>>154370821
I wasn't even a Ragathug, but she deserved to win unlike J-ACKs.
>>154371017
Don't fuck them. They only watch.
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The whole series is just geared towards ending on a bad "Jax offs himself" pun
I'm mostly joking but apparently Elaine The Bounty Hunter was built around the 'Hunter? I hardly know her!" joke
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>>154371064
Bark and whine, Jaxdog.
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>>154369618
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>>154371030
It's out already. Time to activate the filters.
I actually wanted to focus on TADC more
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>watched the entire finale this morning
What did I think of it?
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>>154368910
I don't entirely hate Jax abstracting. I feel it's abrupt, but I suppose that's the point.

Also, he is a parallel to Cain. Cain ends up reflecting on his choice that led him to where he is- hated, and almost deleted. And decides to change, to learn how to be better.

Jax meanwhile, refuses to change. Trauma is not an excuse for bad decisions, and harmful actions towards others. Jax always had a choice, the choice was "you should have just talked to me man" . But he was too absorbed into his own misery, and even when Pomni attempts to reach him deep in his abstraction, he ends up refusing to let go of his trauma and pain, and is lost.

It's only polarizing because people wanted le happy ending where the "loveable jerk" fan favorite gets his redemption.
Even moreso with tumbler Twitter trannies suddenly declaring him as trans, which means he *deserves* a happy ending.
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>>154371132
Sorry, only one autism at a time anon
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>>154370960
And you just KNOW that the other 10% will be Pomni sleeping with the dog because she's a slutty little whore like that
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>>154369554
>trying to one-up each other out of spite and egotism, before the pathological urge to "win battles" destroys us all.
Welcome to the human condition, anon
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>>154371158
It doesn't have to end that way. It probably will, but not because it has to.
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>>154371155
>slutty little whore
Whores do it for money. Sluts do it for fun.
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>>154371141
Nta but the issue is the way it happened - Caine experienced as close to death as possible, being flung into the void thinking everyone hated him. Through that experience of "death" he realizes his faults and redeems himself.

For Jax, he basically was finally starting to realize he had support and love from Pomni at the same stage as Caine or even earlier and hes condemned to super hell.

Like Jax's redemption journey was basically on the same path as Caine's except because he didnt get to cheat his version of death he gets fucked.

Obviously Caine is an ai who was learning human behavior from scratch but he basically got a do-over on the "experience death and realize your mistakes" step.

It basically makes the lesson "sometimes you can redeem yourself but sometimes youre just not lucky and die, life is a coin toss"
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>>154369554
>Maybe society should just stop trying to discourage people from being who they want to be with the threat of becoming social outcasts.
I'm not following this conversation at all and I'm aware it's unrelated to the show. But when you say it like this, it makes me think of the bind trans people are in where living as themselves often comes with life-ruining ridicule, but living a lie eats away at the soul. In that respect, Jax facing real struggles of social acceptance probably would have felt a lot more on-theme with the whole "we need to embrace each other to survive" shit the show claimed to be peddling, rather than just being "actually he sucks and it was all in his head and it's all his fault and everyone else was perfect"
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>>154369925
>Wtf am I supposed to think here?
You can read whatever you want into the show's ending. If you're taking away stuff about transgenderism and whatever, fine. If you're taking away more general stuff about depression, abuse, or other mental health issues, also fine. Personally, I don't care about the tranny shit one way or another; it's not how I interpreted Jax's arc, but if that's what other people got from it I can understand why they did. I just wish that the discussion we'd had the last few days had actually been about these kinds of differences in interpretation instead of the shit-flinging we got instead.

What disturbs me most about the discourse (or lack thereof) is that it seems like more and more anons have basically zero independent thoughts, interpretations, or opinions about the media they consume. Half the posts in these threads have just been copypasting comments off Twitter and Blue Sky from one side of the e-drama or the other.
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Fucking weeb
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>>154370805
I require more images of pomni reproduction for my schoolwork.
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>>154371205
This, people keep insisting Caine got to live because he chose to change, but he only did it after dying, just like Jax
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>>154371205
Every time someone close to Jax abstracted, was a chance for him to "realize" he was fucking up and change himself. So no.
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>>154371243
12 people abstracted under Caine (not counting Jax, since to be fair Caine was dead when that happened)
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>>154371211
What's the point of me coming to my own conclusions if Goose is going to tell me what she really meant on blue.sky?
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>>154371243
Every time one of Caine's favorite characters abstracted, was a chance for him to "realize" ne was fucking up and change things. So no.
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I think you are all jealous of Gooseworx. She is a multimillionaire off this show you hate.
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>>154371205
Jax condemned himself. He always refused to talk to people. He opened up a single time, and then immediately regretted it, and pushed everyone away, and practically bullied ribbit into abstracting. He had several moments where pomni tried to reach out to him. She was always receptive and open to talk. He was not. He abstracted. Pomni *still* reached deep to try and reach him before it was too late. And he basically rejected it and gave up to despair instead of accepting her friendship.

It's not the same as caine, but it's similar. Abstraction is as close to death as a digital being in there can suffer. It's total program corruption and loss of self.
But even through all that, he never came to terms with himself or what he'd done. While caine did. Caine was able to see and admit that he had been awful, and decide to change. Jax meanwhile wallowed in self pity and despair over it. "You're not supposed to love me". He was aware he did wrong, but could not come to terms with it. He refused to.
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>>154369618
The eyes are all looking away like they're embarrassed
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>>154371030
Based.
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>>154371209
>but living a lie eats away at the soul
The thing is, the way trans people see it, living as the gender they were assigned at birth is living a lie.
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>>154371291
I'm jealous of anyone with real money, while being generally unwilling to do anything that would acquire me such money
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>>154371291
I don't think you actually think at all.
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>>154368910
>Jax being saved and apologizing would have been an almost 99% satisfying ending.
Eh, I don't know. I can see why a lot of people prefer an ending with Jax being saved, but I also think it would have taken away a lot of the punch from the themes it was setting up.
>Be willing to trust and open yourself up to others and accept help...
>... but don't feel like there's any pressure to do it earlier rather than later, after all if they were *really* your friends they should be willing to give you as much time and as many chances as you need.
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>>154371313
Yeah, that's what I'm referring to
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>>154371324
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>>154371324
Motherfucker don't you touch my sandwich!
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>>154371352
CUTE
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>>154368872
Damn, now I want an ep where Caine makes a Mexico based map.
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>>154371305
He was regretting it and opening up right as pomni was hugging him, but because abstraction is permanent and Caine deletion is arbitrarily is not, he didnt get a do over.

Caine literally got a do-over from his form of death whereas for jax it was literally too late.

Like if jax said "im sorry for everything, im sorry for making the circus a hell as much as caine" while abstracted he would not have magically unabstracted. Its a false dichotomy to compare Caine's redemption opportunity to Jax's.
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>>154371317
Sounds like normal people.
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>>154371313
And yet they live in a state of schizophrenia where they *are* 100% a woman no questions asked-
Yet identify as trans and make that their entire identity. The marker that cements the "m2f" as their identity
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>>154371317
>anon, stop being so angry
>no! Im almost *enjoying* my anger!!!
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>>154371215
Ragatha my titan slaying wife
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>>154369012
Kek
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>>154371345
Right, so it's better to let them just be themselves. Let them live as whatever gender they want to live as.
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>>154371384
>make that their entire identity
As opposed to.....what? More to the point, why do you care?
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>>154371404
That's... what I said
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>>154371410
Besides, Jax is a digital being, if he hadn't abstracted then transitioning would be as easy as installing a Skyrim sex mod.
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>>154371371
>He was regretting it and opening up right as pomni was hugging him, but because abstraction is permanent and Caine deletion is arbitrarily is not, he didnt get a do over.

I don't think he was regretting it. He may have almost broken through, but immediately started panicking and pushed pomni away.

This is fiction. Abstraction can work however the writer wants it to. He very well could have come to terms with his trauma and re-solidified himself "through the power of friendship" . He clearly was not fully gone yet. And yeah, it would have been a satisfying ending to his story.

But it wasn't. Because he simply refused to change. He in his weakness, accepted pomni's hand, but immediately freaked out and rejected it, pretty much solidifying his abstraction and killing any last chance at being saved. Which is supposed I imagine, to be the real tragedy of his character.
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>>154371409
Ywnbaw
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>>154369318
Creative idea for a sub plot.
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>>154371434
(NTA)

>started panicking and pushed pomni away
He literally didn't? They were both holding on to each other and Pomni had to be grappled out by Zooble

>This is fiction. Abstraction can work however the writer wants it to.
Yeah, and the writer made a dumb choice that doesn't make sense in the broader context of the episode.

>But it wasn't. Because he simply refused to change.
No, it wasn't because the writer said so. Like you just said.
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>>154369680
St. Louis is a tough town. We don't all make it out alive
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>>154371455
Wait thats actually a good idea
Main plot is the circus then the subplot is the void and in the end they both join together
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>>154371434
Anon, gooseworx specifically has stated word of god that abstraction is irreversible. It could be a gooseworx lie.

Also abstraction was 100% complete there's no partial abstraction nigga, him disappearing in light wasnt from him fully transforming it was from flashbangs doing the ol "light makes abstractions crazy aggressive" thing.

Within the established rules and visually confirmed attributes of this fiction, jax was denied the same opportunity of redemption as Caine.

If you're going to make up head canons youve already lost this debate anon
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>>154371434
Which I might add, is the mirror to his real self, who managed from rock bottom, to pull himself up and work to get better, and did accept friends into his life.

Which shows the path that digital Jax *could* have taken. Real Jax allowed himself to accept a friend's helping hand. And was all the better for it
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>>154371469
I prefer to believe the flashbang and hik poofing away were the abstraction taking over
Pomni only manages to govin because he is still fresh
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>>154368891
TL;DR. He's a tranny made by a tranny for a trabbytoon.
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>>154371444
Cisgender strait white American male, actually. I'll ask again, why do you care?
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>>154371482
Real Jax wasn't being imprisoned and tortured by a mad god, cursed to always wonder what happened to his mother and mourn whatever friendships or life direction he used to have
Circus Jax didn't simply make worse choices, he was a product of an environment that kills the majority of people cursed to live in it
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>>154369335
I love how much I hate this. Caine got his asspull redemption, yet he'd remain a tragic character if his creativity were stripped away. After all, while his belief that he had to entertain and run a Circus was just his own delusions, his genuine purpose WAS creative output.
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>>154371519
That's irrelevant. The other digital imprisoned humans all offered at various points in his existence to help him. To be a shoulder to lean on. And he refused each and every time. That was his choice. You can't blame caine for it. Cain didn't make him push ribbit away and abuse her.
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>>154371352
>Eating the plate
Stupid dog
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>>154369661
And Kinger is only straight because he’s in an interracial marriage. Like, I’m not /pol/pilled or anything but this shit is EXHAUSTING. I should’ve expected this from a show that basically spawned from tumblr but it was handled relatively well in that regard for most of its run. I don’t care if gangle or Zooble get to be they/thems and have their lesbian(?) relationship but wasn’t that enough?
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>Jax troons out
>Ralsei troons out
it's over
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>>154369897
Just because you dont like the direction a writer took doesnt mean its bad writing. It would have been very corny if Jax had been saved by the power of friendship.
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>>154371599
Did Ralsei really troon out?
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>>154369509
Just bring back Bizco. It's the high IQ move.
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>>154371612
Yes
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>>154369373
Look I’m sick of this subversive nonsense too but is authoritarianism and systemic beatings/killings REALLY what you want to side with? No matter HOW bad the people you oppose may be?

I just can’t look at people like you as any better. Trannies want to do this to you too, btw. You’re all just two sides of the same coin of the worst impulses of humanity. I can’t reasonably side with any of you. This is why I “left” /pol/ YEARS ago when you people started BECOMING the things outside communities ACCUSED you of being for years.
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>>154371621
Does he watch Kris and Susie while acting like their dog though?
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>>154371193
Precious little jester.
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>>154371519
>missing the entire point of the series
At a certain point one has to realize that all of things that have gone into making you who you are ultimately make up only a tiny part of the being that is "you". Anyone can be born with or end up having a shitty life, but that doesnt mean they're condemned to stay that way. There's a point where you need to take responsibility for your own self and accept that things can be better if you want them to be.
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>>154371630
Actually yes Ralsei dehumanizes himself constantly
He willingly was used as a stool once
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>>154371467
They're going to turn that bus stop into a shrine don't they?
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>>154371456
>Yeah, and the writer made a dumb choice that doesn't make sense in the broader context of the episode.
Literally the story of Jax's downfall. This is why it feels unsatisfying.
>>154371495
>Pomni only manages to govin because he is still fresh
I think so too. The suggested premise was that he could still be brought back.
>>154371469
>abstraction was 100% complete there's no partial abstraction nigga
The episode suggested otherwise. A previous episode also established that you can get into abstraction territory without fully abstracting.
The idea the episode was going toward was Pomni saving Jax before the point of no return.
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>>154371663
Going to?
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.....was the series REALLY about finding meaning of a stagnant life? What does jax's trans issues have to do with any of that
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>>154371657
Damn. People really hate femboys more than tomboys now.
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Suppose either Goose or Glitch said "Fuck it" and made a second season (in the latter case, without Goose's involvement, and then she'll post something bitchy on BlueSky after it's announced); how do they even begin to make it so that it won't 1. seem like desperate money-grabbing and/or 2. piss off the purist die-hard fans?
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>>154369703
>was assaulting him
She yelled and then hugged Jax. There was no mention of physical abuse having occurred, only toxic comments.
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>>154368910
I don’t hate that the show had Jax die, because he was self destructive (which lol of course a tranny suicided) and it gave the finale some weight. Because all in all it was a pretty positive ending.

Jax, trans or not, represents the idea that there is a “worst possible version” of us that can exist at a “worst possible moment”. Jax is a brain scan, a snapshot of that worst possible self at the worst moment possible.


I am kind of glad glitch “realized”(?) the shit they stepped in with this tumblr postmodern jew politics crap and I hope they continue the series in the future without goose, even she (he lol) has said he’s sick of this franchise and it’s fans. It’s almost like all these generally left leaning or progressive people don’t realize how insufferable they are until theyre set upon each other. Honestly, I love to see it and it’s been hours of entertainment for me.

Could the finale have been better? Certainly. I don’t hate what we got, minus the trans nonsense. But it could have been a lot worse too.

Leaves the door open for lore stuff, and if this series never comes back, I’m also okay with that.
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Who cares, where's Jax?
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>>154371689
No, it was about Jax. Everything else was window dressing.
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>>154371514
Nta, but I care because a bunch of insane people have the backing power of the largest corporations and government entities and can get laws rewriten in their favor. Also something something epstein, world economic forum, erosion of the west, psyop.
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>>154371621
>a cutesy character puts on a cutesy outfit
>TROOOOOON
t. doesn't play Deltarune, will probably watch Joel play Ch 5 tho
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TADC themed cereal when?
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>>154371714
man fuck this show lol
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>>154368916
There is no such thing as “cis” or “transgender”. I have read all the major books and studies, supposedly providing evidence for gender, dysphoria, and transgender, and there is no tangible or credible let alone logical evidence that any of this is anything more beyond social theory. At best, it is all a misapplication of philosophy.
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>>154371728
>>a cutesy character puts on a cutesy outfit
Just like maid jax? lol
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>>154371729
I demand a TADC funnybunny flamethrower
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>>154368891
>Death of the Author
I find death of the author types insufferable, but I think this might be one of the rare, genuine instances where a creator misunderstands their character.
The reason for that is that the character is based on a real person. In this case the creator himself. If the creator misunderstands himself, he misunderstands the character. If the creator misunderstands his own mental illness, he misunderstands the character's mental illness. The character is at first written adeptly from reality and experience, exhibiting feelings and struggles the creator understands. But then comes the narcissistic, dogmatic transgender filter that must alter and twist all that it comes in contact with to serve the tranny's need for validation and activism. That is where the misunderstanding takes place. That's where a coherent character with a coherent arc takes a hard swerve into something that undermines both. That doesn't quite fit with the themes and actively hijacks them for something narratively unsuitable.
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>>154368945
>whose gender is unknown or IRRELEVANT
No such thing. We know what you’re trying to defend. It does not exist. Enough already with this nonsense.
>>154369087
And a deeply disturbed one at that
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my wife Jax
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>>154371729
The Amazing Digital Cereal
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>>154369941
>it was confirmed the moon tops
Source or just the common assumption?
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>>154371663
>>154371680
lol yeah it already is
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>>154371260
Who cares?

Ray Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451 to be about the dangers of social apathy towards reading and independent thinking, and yet millions of readers have walked away from it with views on authoritarianism and government censorship. Harper Lee intended Go Set A Watchmen as coming-of-age story about how our romanticized views of childhood and our parents break down as we get older, yet millions of readers criticized it as a cynical and racist approval of segregation and Jim Crow. JRR Tolkien made repeated, explicit claims (even in the forwards for the books) that Lord of the Rings was not meant to be allegorical, and yet millions of readers have taken away allegorical interpretations ranging from the biblical to the geopolitical from those books.

No one, not even the author, gets to decide your interpretation for you.
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>>154371729
I could go for some of those candy treats like in that one pic. Barring that, watch the TADC serial is some Lucky Charms type of stuff with marshmallow characters and random gloink shapes for the regular cereal.
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>>154371729
>Jax pieces are literally HRT pills
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>>154370101
Add Bee Caine
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>>154371701
>it's a "everyone puts on a talent show to save the local community center from the greedy real estate firm" episode
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>>154369976
Mostly? It’s ENTIRELY a fetish. This whole world is so sick and exhausting.
And while we’re on the topic, gay is preference I have nothing against gay. I don’t really think it matters if one preference is for the same sex, but let’s be real. It is a choice in preference. It is representative of low inhibition to social norms and the willingness to choose same-sex partners as an option to pursue.
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>>154371788
I hate the fact that I know I would totally read a fanfic with this concept
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>>154371701
Season 2 is (is because they are probably making one after how much bank they made with it being the most popular cartoon of the 2020s) going to be so funny because they are walking on eggshells. They either have to revive their most popular character and let him be a troon to not commit PR suicide over retconning now one of the biggest trans reps in cartoon history while also losing money from more Funnybunny artists nuking their accounts and not buying as much merch or move on and try to forget about him, also pissing off fans and losing money.
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>>154371746
Jax was only arguably cute in his design. Ralsei's just a soft and squishy little hug-bug, inside and out
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>>154371799
Rochon said it.
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At the end of the day, once your creation is out there, it's not really *yours* to an extent.
I think going full "death of the author" is cringe, but I do think that people should be allowed to have their own interpretations. Especially since Goose went out of her way to make it vague within the show itself.
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>>154368910
What was the Glitch post confirming boy Jax? I want that to be true but didn't see it
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>>154371352
It is like an amoeba.
I love it.
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>>154369252
That works for Evangelion and LOST because the characters grow and change and challenge themselves. Jax just stagnates and dies LOL

Also in LOST and Evangelion there are enough answers to piece together most of the context even if it isn’t given a solid conclusion, and a greater amount of lore given along with a conclusion to that lore respectively
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>>154369951
The abstraction is a weird mess to start with. It's an analogy for suicide, but the character doesn't die, and in fact the final episode shows they're still inside the abstraction, and still coherent in some manner.
It makes more sense to be able to bring them back. The show was already all about therapy talk and had a far too easy "everyone is happy now (except for Jax)" ending. Pomni's whole arc, such as it is, is about breaking through the bullshit and actually fixing festering problems. Being able to un-abstract people by coming together to help and support each other would at least fit the themes of the show.
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>>154368976
Ignore the edgelord, you are cool. I have genuinely no issue with the L, G, or B. Only the T has gone and ruined it for the rest of you guys.
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>>154371621
man I hate trannies 12 years ago this would've been the
>I can be your girlfriend tonight
meme and it would be hot as fuck to pound his prostate and jerk him off
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I dont really get this concept of "oh they're a side character so they shouldnt be the focus"

But there are great shows like ATLA, where the title of the show is about one person but still manages to give the Gaang their own arcs and stories
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>>154371832
You could, maybe, format that to "prove there are intelligent creatures in the machine so they won't shut it down" or something.
Actually, a second season all about the real and digital worlds interacting would be really interesting...
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>>154370741
>Gummigoo, why are you collecting rotting plants in our living room?
>wait, you don't lay eggs?
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>>154371867
There wasn’t one that anon is just coping.
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>>154368976
gay and agreed
it's impressive how much damage the T has done to the image of the LGBT movement in a little under 10 years, I especially pity the lesbians must be hell having to deal with a bunch of bald men LARPing trying to get in your pants
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>>154371701
>present it as a retelling of the original story
>wait it actually has continuity what
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I just realized, TADC is just theorybaiting.
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>>154369976
it is a fetish, in multiple degrees of the word, it's a fetishization of sexist stereotypes and traits.
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>>154371546
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>>154371729
>tiny shaped marshmallow pieces
>Pomni's jester hat
>Gangle's mania mask
>Zooble's claw
>Ragatha's button eye
>Kinger's bucket
>Jax's bunny heat silhouette
>Caine's caine
With fruity Bubble pieces in between!
Glitch is not liable for any diabetes diagnosis that may arise as a result of use of this product
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>>154371434
>>154371456
I don't know if he was pushing Pomni away, but I also don't know if he was still completely at a point where he was finally accepting things. He's half acknowledging that it's too late and that it's his own fault for ending up like that, but in the same breath blaming Pomni for complicating things and messing everything up. Maybe if Pomni had had more time she could have gotten through, or maybe not, maybe Jax would have just gone full drowning man and taken her down with him. We'll never know.
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>>154370313
>they all amusingly clock the bow on head = trans thing
So this social contagion has completely wiped out femboys and transvestites, huh?
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>>154371908
It's made worse by there already being a main character and the show being like that for the first 4 episodes only for them to pivot to just one guy having the focus and his trauma taking away from the actual premise of the show with the plot twist that explains everything and the other characters only getting like 1/6th of the finale. It's like what happened with Randy in South Park.
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>>154371925
>its a "random people become aware of digital copies thier souls exist and the process of dealing with the existential crisis that inevitably follows such a revelation" episode
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>>154372003
Cute OC, what's his(?) name?
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>>154371908
>this show with nearly 7 times the episodes managed to give like 5 people story arcs
You are aware this show had 9 episodes and like 7 characters?
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>>154372030
And whose fault is that?
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>>154371727
>I care because a bunch of insane people have the backing power of the largest corporations and government entities and can get laws rewriten in their favor
But if they were YOUR insane people doing it all, it'd be kosher, yes?
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>>154371982
there was a big push by trannies some years ago to remove the word "trap" from public vernacular because it was considered offensive somehow, but it was mainly because traps where a sign you can still be a man and look cute and feminine and trannies hated that
now we use femboy and almost expect these nu-traps to be on estrogen and this view has also bled into fiction, every trap now wants to be a woman, it's a Goddamned nightmare
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>>154371999
Yeah like holy fuck im sick of people acting like im dumb and just "wanted more for my favorite glorp" like no goose nigga, you chose to set up characters with these arcs and put them in the show

Zooble and Gangle have like 3 fucking lines each in ep9
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>>154371709
>Jax, trans or not, represents the idea that there is a “worst possible version” of us that can exist at a “worst possible moment”. Jax is a brain scan, a snapshot of that worst possible self at the worst moment possible.
That's an interesting way of viewing it, if you take someone on their worst day ever and set them in one direction vs another how does it affect how they turn out? Leeroy is in a shitty situation and potentially deals with being on the streets for who knows how long before finally reaching out to a friend for help and getting the support he needs. Jax immediately has people reaching out to support him (Ribbit, Kaufmo, and the others), but is also in a very different shitty situation. How differently would things have turned out for Jax if things with Caine or the others had been a little different this way or that?
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>>154372025
Gummigoo! Glad you like him!! :
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Goose could've saved herself so many headaches on both her end and the audience's end by being less involved with the fandom.

The expectation that every character would get a focus episode came from her.
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>>154372042
CRAAAAAB PEOPLE
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>>154372030
And was doing fine with giving each focus until the second half turned Pomni into Jax's personal therapist so Goose could trauma dump until inserting his humiliation fetish
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>>154371765
>I find death of the author types insufferable
Any particular reason?
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>>154371030
Caine did not intentionally cause abstractions outside of MAYBE scratch and that was only implied. Jax probably also didn’t INTEND to but effectively did through his actions. Especially once he knows what abstraction is. He straight up made Ribbit isolated and crazy feeling with his push and pull nonsense. Kaufmo may have been slipping on his own but Jax gave him a final push by rejecting and mocking his mania. Jax is more culpable than Caine in this regard.
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im gonna make a version for social media slop of this tomorrow, with a caption " like

jax inside of his abstraction fully aware and sentient.
year 2127
C&A servers endlessly transfered and upgraded incase they contain 'important legacy software'"

Ill also put the Stevie Wonder song over it
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>>154372082
I fucking knew it, Goose was a crab person all along.
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>>154368991
>I think people are just memeing that Jax is trans because Goose did a post about it and everybody with that mentality latched onto it
Yes, that's exactly what happened. However, I wish they were only memeing. Most of these people take it seriously. They've been conditioned to take even the biggest absurdities as facts when it comes to trannies.
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>>154372085
Its actually fucking retarded that the soma reveal was brushed over in a 2 minute montage
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>>154371908
a bit unfair of a comparison, Avatar was a television cartoon meant for kids, they had leniency in making the animation not as good and to produce more filler episodes in order to fill their timeslot and keep kids engaged so they had lots of wiggle room to develop and conclude many character arcs
TADC has 8 25-30 minute episodes and an hour long one that all together took 3 years to make, that shit is ridiculous for telling a good story and giving us enough time to connect with the characters doubly so when the lead writer insists on filling half the runtime with filler and unfunny humor
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>>154372016
I feel like I would be compelled to check in on digital me every once in a while and see how they're doing.
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>>154371077
>Jaxfag
>Ragathug
Any alternatives for the other characters?
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>I, personally, feel unsatisfied with the conclusion of a fictional story that I in no way, shape or form had any hand in writing, directing, animating and distributing because it did not conform to the expectations that I personally placed upon it and that the entire creative team behind it would have no way of knowing about, much less be in a position to appease my wants in a timely, productive manner
>THIS IS BULLSHIT GOOSE IS A HACK I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS SHOW NOW AND I ALWAYS HAVE
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>>154372135
>ATLA succeeded because of filler
>TADC failed because of filler
naruhodo
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>>154371027
The bow tie scene and choice of song is pretty damning though. And apparently Word of God but the tweet got deleted I guess?


>>154370637
That’s not always the case. Things get buried and if they aren’t archived, goodbye. And for me that’s good I have lots of cringe from being 12 online out there too.
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>>154372090
I think if he didnt drastically change his tactics in order to reduce abstractions he's more culpable than jax. Like imagine thinking anyone would want to live in most of those first wave of character's bodies, let alone how fucked the adventures might have been due to his inexperience

And before you say it, the current circus characters basically got lucky that kinger somehow remembered how to "delete" Caine, Caine didnt get better at making adventures and managing new members
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>>154372156
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>>154371908
Avatar is trash
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>>154372153
Kaufbro
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>>154372153
pomNIGGER
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>>154371211
this is a good take.

people focus too much on the authors twitter inserted outcome but miss the point that as a reflection of him all that trauma makes things a lot more tragic since I'd argue that jax got the better end than goose who became delusional. neither of them took the option of facing reality and improving. but one is a character that is meant to be a self insert of issues the author gone through, which the author also hates which is his self hatered. with this context for me the character of jax is even becomes even more tragic. going through trauma and battling self hate is hard, but there's always a way out, even if it feels impossible.
it's always better to face reality than live in a delusion, or retreat inside your own head and cut yourself off from the world, which is also a very relatable feeling.
the whole of jax's character feels very relatable. someone who can't face reality and himself. and when reality inevitably breaks through the facade, your psyche collapses. that is what happens to people in many cases, transgenderism as well, because that is not facing reality and giving into an escapist delusion.

I think it might be the most accurate portrayal of transgender character there is, not because these issues are anything to do with gender or transgenderism, but because people who go through issues like that might end up thinking that's a solution that would solve their issues and make them happy, but it's not, it's the same as everyone else, just trying to run away from yourself.
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>>154372155
>wahh stop you have to like the show you cant just dislike it wahhh
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>>154371709
>Jax, trans or not, represents the idea that there is a “worst possible version” of us that can exist at a “worst possible moment”. Jax is a brain scan, a snapshot of that worst possible self at the worst moment possible.
This is bullshit and implies a character driven show doesn't allow any character growth
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>>154372055
it’s ALL mental illness. Drag, trap, trans, femboy. Functionally, trap and femboy is the same shit, and trans is just committing to the same nonsense to an even more intense degree.

It’s all bullshit. It stems from women being frigid and socially engineered to reject femininity. If more girls embraced being sexual and submissive people, I guarantee you there would be a proportional decrease in “femboys” and any adjacent category over time.
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>>154371467
The most unrealistic part of the show is white people using public transportation in St. Louis.
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>>154371975
>but in the same breath blaming Pomni for complicating things and messing everything up
He's not literally blaming her for anything. He's just saying it hurts more because she won't give up on him. He's lamenting that he can't just slip away and be hated, because being hated is easier for him to deal with than the emotional vulnerability of being loved. I think at this point his resistance has broken, he's just struggling with the feelings.
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>>154371765
Well said, bravo.
>>154372086
Not that anon but because it’s obnoxious, and “entitled” to presume you get “more” “ownership” over their art than the person who created it. I agree TADC dropped the ball hard thematically, but that doesn’t mean you get to overwrite author intention. Just recognize that it sucks and move on instead of jumping through existential abstract mental hoops to “reclaim” it. You’re not actually doing anything, just pushing back against canon.

Plus “death of the author” is just more postmodernist garbage.
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>>154371709
wonder if goose hates the show because he made jax as a self hate character and people having compassion for him makes the real goose very uncomfortable because that was the catalyst for him to go into the whole gender stuff thinking it's a solution. but he became worse than what the character he wrote was and that might be a big hit to the illusion he built for himself.
being stuck in your head with all these issues and illusions and fetishes is a pretty bad end. feels like goose was the one who abstracted in the end, and is dreaming about jax having the worst ending and never advancing past his issues. which we see as the creative output which is the show.
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>>154368891
That's an AI post but Jax being trans is stupid in the sense that he's a sexless bunny. He has no dick.
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>>154372086
Mostly because I usually see it used by pretentious faggots who want to justify how their stupid interpretation that supports their political obsession is 100% correct
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>>154371467
>the flowers
KEK
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>>154372311
>>154372351
Agreed, most of the time when it’s used is by annoying types that can’t accept an author’s writing decision and plug their ears pretending it doesn’t exist
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>>154372108
it doesn't really matter, since "being trans" just means you refuse to face reality and create world of delusion in your head and try to live in it.
there are many ways to do that that have nothing to do with gender, the big take away here is the core of that not the label people want to put on it because that particular way of delusion is the popular one in current times.
it just makes it sadder because it's directly the same delusion that the author has about himself, if you look at people with compassion.
goose is in a prison of his mind he made for himself, it's a pretty horrible outcome.
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>>154371211
>about the media they consume
That phrase alone made me drop your post. You don’t “consume” media.

And what “Range” of highly unique individual conclusions do you expect to see? Yes every viewer will take their own interpretation away from something, but given enough viewers and time there will emerge, at most, a few interpretation “paths” one could reasonably fit into.

Other than the bow tie scene I didn’t get Jax is trans from most of it, but between the bow tie, the choice of song, and finding out gooseworks is trans (something I didn’t know until yesterday) it seems unfortunately obvious in retrospect. Which makes your post kind of condescending and obnoxious. It’s one thing for a story to have an ambiguous ending/themes so you can draw your own conclusion, but in this instance it seems pretty obvious what was alluded to here.

You’re asking for people to have more independent interpretations but how many interpretations does TADC lend itself to? “Jax is trans”. “Jax is a bully with a sensitive core” are pretty much the only two explanations you can reasonably take away from this, with some overlap between the two.

You think you’re saying something smart, but you’re not.
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>>154372420
>Agreed, most of the time when it’s used is by annoying types that can’t accept an author’s writing decision and plug their ears pretending it doesn’t exist
Which, to be fair, could be used to describe me in this thread. But like I said I think it's one of the rare instances where it really does apply, for the reasons I stated.
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>>154371801
Who cares? Nigger the author DOES get to set the tone because they know what they wrote and what it’s about. The only times where it’s even remotely acceptable to assume yours or anyone else’s interpretation is more canon or correct is if the author dies without shedding light on a purposefully abstract ending. And yes there are cases where the author retroactively says the ending is about something else, usually for pandering or censorship reasons. But fuck, of course you’re just another dumb “death of the author” postmodernist sophist faggot.

You are not as smart as you think. There’s nothing wrong with interpretation but the creator of the piece trumps any and all interpretations. If you want a specific outcome make your OWN shit.

For context ITT I didn’t even hate or love TADC ending, but I do hate this tranny shit, but like it or not that’s what it seems to be based on ALL evidence and word of god. To some extent or another that is a part of this and anything else said on the issue is COPE
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>>154372480
>it doesn't really matter, since "being trans" just means you refuse to face reality and create world of delusion in your head and try to live in it.
>there are many ways to do that that have nothing to do with gender, the big take away here is the core of that not the label people want to put on it because that particular way of delusion is the popular one in current times.
People act like I'm stupid when I say "just because the character thinks they're a girl or wants to be a girl, that doesn't make them transgender" but they're missing the point that transgenderism is just a delusional label with many extremely specific assumptions that they are applying when it doesn't fit.
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>>154371865
What does that mean? Of course it’s “yours” you made it you decide what it’s about. If you leave it intentionally ambiguous for the benefit of the reader/viewer to project their own meaning into that’s fine, but when people decide that like, consensus creates context, that’s retarded postmodern SOPHISTRY. Like what this guy said? >>154371801
It’s wrong. I need you all to realize this if you don’t already. Don’t plunge the world further into illogical lies and postmodernist tricks.
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>>154372055
yeah it's unfortunate that more people haven't fought back.
the point of traps was(is) being natural and being comfortable as men, now transgenderists spread so much propaganda and grooming that's less and less the case.

>>154372221
not true.

traps and femboys are just men that are not happy to conform to sexist stereotypes, and try to be themselves in spite of society pressuring them to conform. (except you can confirm to anything by overcorrecting and missing the point of not conforming, but that's different topic).
men can be soft smooth and submissive, girls can be strong hairy and dominant. those things have nothing to do with your sex.

transgenderists are in contrast the complete opposite. only common thing being that they are unhappy to conform with the sexist stereotypes of their own sex that society laid out to them, but instead of fighting against society, sexism, conformism, they dive into those things completely, adopt and fetishize stereotypes and sexism of the opposite sex, and try to completely conform to those things to the point of demanding it from others, and if they don't get it they have insane mental distress and breakdowns because their whole world view is based on delusions and self hatered, instead of accepting yourself and fighting against society like trap and femboy does (in the proper definition of those terms not the modern hrt ladden offshoot which has nothing to do with actual traps and femboys, so a misnomer propaganded by transgenderists to groom more people into suicide.)
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>>154372296
I saw so many comments on streams or reactions that were so weirdly and aggressively anti-car when the bus scene happened. Is that a thing now? Are trannies suddenly anti-car??
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>>154372606
>"just because the character thinks they're a girl or wants to be a girl, that doesn't make them transgender"
yeah ecause transgenderism is a made up thing without any anchor in reality of things that could be the definition, but all the issues transgenderists claim to mean you're trans are issues everyone had at some point in their life to some extent, so either everyone in the world is trans or no one is.
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>>154372215
How is it bullshit? The show’s creator basically affirms this by saying something like “Jax is a worst case scenario version of me” or something.

If theyre brain scans it’s sort of like having a clone. That clone has your memories but makes different choices. If the point you diverge from your clone is on a particularly bad day, week, or point in your life, then how you and the clone choose to react to it shapes the different paths you both take.

I don’t see how it’s bullshit
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>>154372340
All I know is gooseworks, along with many trans and non trans people, just need a support network. Whether it’s friends and family, romantic partners, or yes even therapist (good ones who actually care about the client and the challenge of helping them, which is rare). This world has less and less of that. More and more people need the support and less and less people are able to give it. We are all collectively suffering more and more, expected to work harder to keep the sinking ship afloat.
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>>154372628
It’s not about sexiest stereotypes and like “gendered clothing” for traps when the whole point is to “trap” others into thinking you’re something (a girl) you’re not.
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I thought Jax was trans since episode 5 but walked away from the finale thinking Leeroy instead accepted being an effeminate man/hethey who gets pegged by his shethey girlfriend after a night at the Triangle Bar.

If it wasn't for social media posts by Goose and the VAs I'd have a hard time seeing it another way. When making something for mass audiences you shouldn't have to know what a 'boymoder' is to correctly interpret the main arc.
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>>154372673
Yes, aggressive hatred of cars (as a source of generalized anxiety) is very common among people who identify with their mental illnesses, including but not limited to people of gender.
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>>154372819
that's just a meme that came from some people who enjoyed trolling a lot.
the point of traps is that if you're feminine enough to cause confusion, you still say "no I'm a man and I'm happy to be a man, btw you gay now".
it just boils down to "feminine man".
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>>154372777
but trans communities were never about real support.
it's always shallow affirmations and lies.
when you have actual issues or doubts and if they don't conform to the common hive mind narrative you get shunned and banned.
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>>154372860
>When making something for mass audiences you shouldn't have to know what a 'boymoder' is to correctly interpret the main arc.
They genuinely think their bubble represents a broader reality.
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>ihatetrannieskilltranniesaarghauughimsonot mad
*yawn*
Change da channel Marge!!
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>>154372860
I got the feeling through the whole thing that he was a self hating homophobic gay.
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>>154372958
I don’t know man, anime, the arguable source of the modern “trap”, seems to disagree. They even give them tits and thighs half the time inexplicably to sell the illusion.
>>154373127
If you’re not sick of you’re one of them
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>>154373127
>creator declares the overarching plot of the show (since Jax gets all the focus) is about a tranny in denial
>talking about the show through that lens is being obsessed with trannies
Maybe you should rethink this.
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