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Angel on Your Shoulder Edition

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>>154600024
That's one of the parts of Helluva Boss doesn't mesh well with Hazbin Hotel.

Like, do you believe Adam wouldn't go and wreck some face if he ever heard about Demons, going to Earth and killing people, most of the time also killing people outside of their target? Forget Adam why wouldn't Heaven send someone to kick some demon ass?
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>>154600076
Did you know Hazbin Hotel stole its premise from Almost Naked Animals?
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Tall lady
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Just pointing out that the central concept of C.H.E.R.U.B is they do LITERALLY THE SAME SHIT AS THE HAZBIN HOTEL right down the the friendship lessons except they do it for living people
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>>154600144
But anon, they’re angels so they need to be pissed on by demons that killed people.
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>>154600112
Birdam
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I find it shocking how no one here cares about research in the slightest. It’s no wonder you can’t do anything.
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>>154600115
Weirdly enough shouldn't the whole hellborn immunity from exterminations be nullified by the fact they are killing and corrupting humans souls on earth. Shouldn't Heaven crack down even harder on Hell for it's bullshit.
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>>154600176
What fuck are you talking about vague master?
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>>154600176
What do you want us to do? Write a letter about how our fanfic is superior to the authors like Eliezer Yudkowsky did with Methods of Rationality and literally wrote a letter to Rowling about how she should make his shit canon?

Get over yourself anon
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>>154600184
Because Lucifer can hurt angels. Meaning there is an angel God prepared for him that isn’t yet released.
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>>154600115
>Forget Adam why wouldn't Heaven send someone to kick some demon ass?
My headcanon is that hunting hellborn on Earth is the traditional role of exorcists (and the one the cherubs would be familiar with) and Adam was gifted some to be his paramilitary. They are good-cop-bad-cop with the cherub species. C.H.E.R.U.B would be unable to call on them in Full Moon because they're banished at that point.
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>>154600222
Lucifer got thrown to the pit, got forced into a treaty, and made so that he can't even hurt Sinners. Plus he is dumber than her daughter.

Clearly there are Angels that can kick his ass.
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>>154600261
He had to be handled by several anngel elites and a Lucifer laser is enough to break through anything they do.
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who is the sexiest hazbin hotel character?
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>>154600272
Adam
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>>154600269
What Angel elites? We only have Sera and Speaker of God, both of them being retarded.
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>>154600272
The cannibal girl in the middle when they sing resolute and ravenous
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>>154600222
The Elders seemed to have spanked him like the misbehaving child that he is. The idea of them creating a Lucifer destroyer 9000 just in case he pulls some bullshit would have been interesting and actually smart. A straight up monster kept on a leash like a mad dog.
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>>154600294
The ones who made the shield and are in the flashback.
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>>154600272
Honestly? Lilith and von Eldritch milf from the pilot.
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>>154600315
Man they really nerfed Lucifer in the height department.
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>>154600299
God made the child Lucifer made with Eve the destined destroyer.
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>>154600311
Basically non-existent characters. I have no hope for them when Sera can't even go and put Vox in his place.
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I hope they bring back the scrapped anthro lion angels that were the counterpart to hellhounds.
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>>154600339
I think they’re going to overthrow Sera.
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I got the licensed recipe book for this and told somebody I'd make a few of the drinks in it if I got this job I interviewed for. I had to go through it today to make my shopping list because I'm getting an offer next week. Some of these are just.. what.

> Charlie's drink is spinach, passionfruit juice, some other fruits and yogurt tossed in a blender
> Emily's is standard non-alcoholic punch
> Sera has one that's a tequila base combined with a bunch of stuff I had to Google because I don't think it exists anywhere outside of LA and a brown sugar mixture
> Lucifer's recipe is roast duck and I feel like there's a Lucyfer fanfic in there somewhere
> Angel Dust has three drinks, one's non-alcoholic, and ironically the Harder Daddy is probably the easiest of the three to make provided you can find watermelon juice somewhere.
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>>154600375
>> Charlie's drink is spinach, passionfruit juice, some other fruits and yogurt tossed in a blender
...Charlie? At least go get Kefir.
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And Bugcuck is back.
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>>154600375
>spinach, passionfruit juice, some other fruits and yogurt tossed in a blender
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>>154600375
Are there actually any drink recipes that sound good? Or is everything something ultra quirky with a gorillion specific ingredients
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>>154600375
i could see charlie becoming neurotic enough to grow up into an almond mom. no 'indulgences' or they have to be made healthy somehow.

>vaggi, you can't give our kid a chocolate bar! sweets make you gluttonous and that's a sin! we need to set good examples for our guests!
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>>154600519
How exactly is Charlie acquiring a child?She and Vaggie are both women.
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>>154600541
Shape shifting.
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>>154600541
adoption, magic, they find adam's reincarnated baby form on earth and steal him, take your pic.
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>>154600541
There is an even bigger problem, is Charlie mentally developed enough to have a child?
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>>154600485
Not really, apart from a few that are really simple like Vox's drink (which is just rum and blue curacao) and Beelzejuice (which is a manhattan with honey in it). A lot of these are ridiculously overcomplicated to make, like Lilith's that needs you to ferment apples in apple cider vinegar for a week beforehand.
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>>154600600
What is Adam's favorite drink?
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>>154600568
Obviously not. And Vaggie would not have the ability to tell Charlie no whenever she endangers the kid.
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>>154600617
Eve's breast milk. Straight from the tap.
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>>154600563
>adam's reincarnated baby form on earth and steal him

Kidnapping children. Is Charlie the new Epstein?
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>>154600658
...that racist Charlie post was gold last thread.

>The Hellborne were practically filling the expanded lot of the Hotel, and we're packed in tightly. They stopped about 20 feet from the building, easily surrounding the Hotel.

>Her mouth was agape, and she couldn't even begin to understand what was happening. “Hellborne? At my Hotel???" she balked.

>“THERE SHE IS!!!!”

>“THE BITCH WHO DICKRIDES SINNERS!!!”

>“FUCK YOU PUSSY-PRINCESS!!!!!”

>“YANK EPSTEIN'S DICK OUT YOUR NOSE AND GET YOUR ASS OUT HERE!!!!!!”
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>>154600617
Adam doesn't get one, he gets a recipe for ribs instead. Abel's drink is a slushie. Lute's is gin with something called ghia aperatif in it, I have no idea what that is. The Speaker has one as well which is soda water, a flavored ice cube, and a ginger syrup the book gives you the recipe for.
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>>154600699
Any more info on Lute's drink?
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What even is the audience for a cook book?
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>>154600699
>ribs
Saucy or dry rub?
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>>154600699
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>>154600375
What are val, velvette and nifty's recipes?
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>>154600732
Yeah hold on I'll post the pic from the book. Here's the recipe:

1 1/2 Ounces London Dry-style Gin
1 1/2 Ounces Ghia Original Aperitif
3/4 Ounce Ghia Berry Aperitif
3/4 Ounce Simple Syrup (another recipe in the book)
1/2 Ounce Lemon Juice
One 4-ounce ice sphere
1 pinch edible gold flakes

>>154600807
Saucy.
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I don't get Charlie and Lucifer.

>Charlie doesn't get any support
>She is mocked constantly by other Sinners. No one respects her
>All she has is a rundown shitshow of a hotel until Alastor comes
>She is nonetheless optimistic to point of stupidity, wants to redeem sinners and tries to get along with everyone. She wants to give people another chance.
>But will go to the Cannibal Town to get cannibals to fight Angels

But;
>Lucifer will support her daughter, to the point of killing Adam
>Lucifer can literally snap his fingers to create a super hotel if he cared
>All of Helluva Boss. From how cheap most Hellborne lives are to the caste system that shackles even the Sins that benefit from it to the whole killing people on Earth stuff

I can't make it fit together.

Does Lucifer care about her daughter or not? Why doesn't Charlie get any respect? Why only a rundown hotel? Does Charlie actually care about people or just want to redeem Sinners because of mommy and daddy issues? Why no mention of Hellborne?

It is like Charlie is the protagonist of an entirely different setting at the start of S1, at the end of S1 and in S2.
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>>154600868
Valentino and Velvette don't get their own drink, they get one called "The Vees". The recipe is:

1/2 ounce espresso liqueur
1/2 ounce ube cream liqueur
1/2 ounce orange liqueur (cointreau)
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>>154600901
Charlie and Lucifer are just bad people doing the good thing.
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Honey, it is time for more retcons and toxic relationship propaganda!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAkGmkP9j5c
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>>154600868
Niffty's is a mocktail and is rather complicated, needs you to make this weird tequila substitute and has jalapeno pepper juice in it.

Starts by making tea using 1/2 cup boiling water and two bags of rooibos tea, which is what they use in place of tequila. You can also just use 2 ounces of tequila.

3/4 ounce agave syrup
1/2 ounce lime juice
1/2 ounce lemon juice
1/2 ounce pickled jalapeno brine
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>>154600901
Because they're obviously making it up as they go along

That being said, lucifer/charlie status in hell seems pretty straightforward. Lucifer might be the 'founder' but he's not the ceo that seems to have been lilith who people actually cared about as the understanding is that she was actively involved in some kind of leadership capacity. Lucifer was basically the "first lady", like sure people know who he is, but who the fuck cares what he has to say; same with charlie probably looking like an absolutely out of touch nepobaby with her redemption sthick while the citizens of hell were able to pretty easily view vox's plan to attack heaven and consider him a successor to whatever they liked about lilith's leadership and presumed political platform
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>>154601102
That explains why Lure is paralleled with Lucifer
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>>154601113
Lucifer is a moron in a cage created by his own stupidity. Not sure how he is parallel to Lute.
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>>154601144
She’s a First Lady
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>>154601248
Wouldn't she be the second Lady?
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>>154601297
Third lady
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>>154601314
Second
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>>154601333
Lilith and Sera are there. Lute is third.
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>>154600901
It is practically a different show. At the pilot and the start of the Season 1, it was like Charlie was the disappointment of Lucifer or at least was disapproved by him. Plus her missing mother Lilith.

Now they are going invent and retcon stuff to make sure Lucifer isn't around to help Charlie. Be it because he is dumb, because Charlie is dumb or straight up make up stuff about how Lucifer can't touch Sinner (and ignore Hellborne and Goetia)
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>>154601339
Lute is more akin to Larry the cat at 10 Downing St as she is inherited by whoever leads the exorcists at the time
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>>154601597
That is really suspicious. Makes me think the exorcist order had a previous handler before Adam.
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>>154601045
>>154600985
>>154600877
>>154600375
Do people really make these kinds of things at home? Am i just too low class or too old and this is actually a thing?
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>>154601635
Guess who likes doing them
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>>154601654
I honestly dont know thats why im asking
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>>154601736
Women
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>>154601741
Women?
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It’s actually really weird Lute associates Adam with the mask instead of his human form. And he’s deliberately a lot less human. Wonder why.
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>>154601750
Yes.
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>>154601741
What kind of women? This a specific age group? Maybe it's much more of a city folk thing? It all just seems very hipstery, like i got female friends or past gfs and aint nobody doing stuff like that, sure they make fancier mixed drinks than i would "at home", but these is like a whole next level. Like call some straight whiskey or bourbon with a drop of water or on ice to a... sandwich. An old fashioned or g&t to a normal cooked meal. All these sound like some julia child level shit that you get at some overpriced swanky cocktail bar.
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>>154601766
She has flashes of his human form when she's holding her helmet in the courtroom
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>>154601823
Now you’re getting it.
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>>154601847
Aight fair enough i guess, i never really lived in a city or dated city girls, but goddamn does that sound incredibly complicated with all of the odds and ends ingredient overhead
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>>154601824
That happened once. And then it doesn’t happen again.
The times Lute hesitates with Abel is when he goes with the inhuman masked appearance. That has a much stronger hold on her than human faces.
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>>154601635
I honestly doubt it. These are drinks for people who want to instagram them, not who want to actually drink them. I looked up what Lute's drink would cost to make, and it's not cheap: the gin is like $40 a bottle for the decent stuff, the ghia aperitif is $40 a bottle (you need two) and probably completely overrides the taste of the gin, and then you mix in sugar water (which is what "simple syrup" is).

I also want to post Vaggie's drink because it's both the worst drink I can possibly imagine that isn't Charlie's and also sounds like something out of fucking Doug. You can see her with it in the title page illustration.

1 1/2 ounces non-alcoholic "Mezcal" (it's tea)
1 ounce beet juice
3/4 ounces agave syrup (this book fucking loves agave)
1/2 ounce lemon juice
4 ounce ice sphere
1 large, raw beet (for making the heart and X that sit on top of the glass)
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I was always so confused with the golden tips on Abel’s and Adam’s horns. What are they supposed to be?
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>>154601931
Rubber bumps so they don't accidentally poke things.
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>>154601897
That illustration lies. I make drinks with yogurt like Ayran and Kefir, with honey and strawberry, cherry etc. You can't get "spinach, passionfruit juice, some other fruits and yogurt tossed in a blender" look like sparkling lime juice
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>>154601956
They look way too sharp for that.
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>>154601890
Abel is wearing a mask at the time.
I don't think it's that strange Lute pictures him with the mask a lot of the time. Lute is obviously someone who wears a similar mask a lot of the time and sees it as an extension of herself. She probably doesn't draw much of a distinction between Adam with the mask and without.
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>>154601931
hooks so when they get wet sera or the speaker can hang them up to dry.
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>>154601897
>>154601897
Its not even the price, its all the all goddamn random shit you'll need for it that you probably wont ever use for anything else. Also a lot of these sound like they would be too sweet.

Literally just spend that same amount of money on one nice bottle of whiskey like a glenlivet 18, or a great many cheap bottles of bourbon or baijiu and you're getting one hell of a lot more bang for your buck and a lot less headaches (from all the fucking sugar)
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>>154602002
It’s way too strange for me.
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>>154601962
Yeah, here's what it actually looks like, and the full recipe:

1/2 cup fresh spinach
1/2 cup passionfruit juice
1/4 large or 1/2 small sweet apple
1-inch piece fresh ginger, peeled and chopped
1/2 cup plain Greek yogurt
1 banana (sliced)

The top part is one slice of starfruit, one slice banana, and some spinach leaves.
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Adam has a guitar axe because its strings can disrupt Lilith’s voice and tools similar to it.
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Vaggie’s exorcist mask looks so awful.
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>>154602223
They made it in 20 minutes
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>>154601931
Adam’s and Abel’s masks are actually replications of male exorcists. The tips of the horns are the ends of antennas.
Inspired by the male Irkens of Invader Zim.
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>>154600333
They are the true elites of Heaven, powerful enough to avoid being Hazbin Hotel and thus never get ruined by Medrano's gay rock opera.
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Maybe Vaggie will regress to being like Lute in season 4 because Charlie fails to make it up to her and the sinners shown themselves to squander their chances on purpose.
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>>154602946
Fuck, that's hot
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We got the Vox and Alastor versions; can't wait to see the Lute!Eve version of this post-Season 3.
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I’m always so confused on Lute Eve
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>>154603350
What do you need to know?
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>The hyped up Lute scenes in season 4 are actually her crying about Vaggie’s death
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>>154603539
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>>154602709
They are Epstein class pedophiles and cannibals that do awful shit in the name of god. We will kill them all.
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>>154603501
I'm fine with that
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>>154603623
It makes the most sense for character progression.
Vaggie was always deeply insecure about being weak. And there are Pilot era materials all about Vaggie getting beaten up by chicks and acting sad about it. Roo could be the perfect one to “fix” her biggest issues just like she did with Eve.
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>>154603327
Ooh, I dunno, this one would be even more metal, the backup dancers being her unmasked exorcists, all now firmly under her control.
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>>154600696
You know, that would actually be my thinking if I was a hellborne. Since from the outside, it really looks like Charlie is dickridding Sinner without caring for Hellborne at all.
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>>154603803
I think Lute mind controlling the exorcists would be so lame. I don't think she should be a flashy Vox style villain at all and she shouldn't have those zingy villain one liners. Let her be a different kind of villain.
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>>154603881
I mean, I was talking more in terms of fanart and music covers. One with her in the Vox Populi pose is kinda inevitable.

And oh yeah, she’s probably be a different style of villain compared to Vox; something far more grim and personal when it comes to the Morningstars. I see her as the Raoul Silva of the Hazbin villains if we were comparing to Bond villains. I just hope they don’t forget to let her be engaging. She can be afforded a few good villainous zingers. ;)
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Rosie is so sexy.
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>>154603952
Having seen the leaked Gravity animatic I think they made the right call changing Lute's crazy grin at "I'm gonna kill every last one of them" to a scowl. The anger is just as engaging as all the le crazy smilers this show has. Moreso because this is a kind of female villain you just don't see as often. If they turn her into another Vox it will be so boring.
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>>154601045
The idea of these complex mixed drinks that aren't even alcoholic is so strange to me
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>>154603992
Calm down alastor
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Adam's Bar Book drink is a can of white Monster served out of the can
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>>154600877
This sounds revoltingly bitter lmao. It's like something she would make and drink from the worst bottles at the back of Adam's abandoned private bar as a form of self punishment after he dies.
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>>154600375
>> Lucifer's recipe is roast duck and I feel like there's a Lucyfer fanfic in there somewhere
God, that loser's duck obsession goes beyond plastic ducks.
>>154600502
Sharp, nice.
>>154600600
>Lilith's that needs you to ferment apples in apple cider vinegar for a week beforehand.
That sounds...stupid. I assume it is just for decoration since that fermented apple will taste like apple cider vinegar so why bother fermenting it instead of just putting some to the drink itself? Like, at best minimal taste difference.
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>>154600600
>>154604220
Isn’t it suspicious Lilith’s key ingredient is an apple?
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>>154604255
Not at all since her husband Lucifer incorporates a lot of apple imagery into his design.
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>>154603881
yeah, the exorcists willingly falling into line for the bloodshed they've been craving yet denied by abel is way more interesting.

>>154604014
could you repost/link the animatic if you have it? i never got the chance to see it and i love seeing WIP animation processes.

>>154604220
in terms of character analysis, lilith's drink making someone wait an absurdly long time just for the fresh apple to lose all its flavour and become sour like the vinegar when a much easier and quicker option that lets you enjoy both the fresh apple and the vinegar sourness could have interesting implications... is she waiting for charlie to 'turn sour' too?
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>>154604272
Yes. But Lucifer never has one about eating them.
Lilith constantly does.
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>>154604255
Lucifer (and presumably Lilith) is the most obnoxious about his deed with the Apple.

Like, I read fics about how they are regretful and all but by all accounts, Lucifer is probably more proud with the Apple shenanigans than anything else, including Charlie.
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>>154601897
You're not lying that Vaggie drink sounds like the worst shit ever. And not even alcoholic.
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>>154604281
Abel is impulsive. Restraint isn’t actually his thing.
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>>154604314
>Abel is impulsive.
So he is ADHD coded.
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>>154604281
>in terms of character analysis, lilith's drink making someone wait an absurdly long time just for the fresh apple to lose all its flavour and become sour like the vinegar when a much easier and quicker option that lets you enjoy both the fresh apple and the vinegar sourness could have interesting implications... is she waiting for charlie to 'turn sour' too?
I feel like this is just author of the cookbook throwing most cliche stuff about the characters and making shit up when there isn't any.

Though if I was making a Lilith themed drink, I would probably go for something that sounds stupidly expensive and probably a wine, since Lilith wanted more than even the Garden of Eden.
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>>154604281
>could you repost/link the animatic if you have it?
https://files.catbox.moe/9n29nl.mp4
Shit was so crazy when this dropped. It was almost a full year before the episode aired. It hasn't changed much, replacing one crazy grin with a frown is the biggest change. I think the track sounds slightly different.
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>>154604340
Probably Lilith Eve content
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>>154604014
>If they turn her into another Vox it will be so boring.

Agreed. Again, was talking more about fanart recreations of scenes we're inevitably going to see.

Lute!Eve is going to be where the show's direction and overall tone probably marks a grim turn. Vox was a fun, flashy villain-with-good-publicity. Lute!Eve is probably gonna be 'no, like, we *really* gotta stop this bitch; she's gonna kill *everyone*."
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>>154600877
What color is that drink?
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>>154604358
I have a feeling the author of the tie-in cookbook (who isn't Viv, although she wrote a foreward) is not privy to spoilers from future seasons
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>>154604381
I'm fully expecting Charlie to reach out to Lute and forgive her since she hasn't actually done that yet to a major villain in the forgiveness show.
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>>154604220
I double-checked the book and you add sugar and ginger to it, but the core of the recipe is slicing an apple and putting it in a thing full of apple cider vinegar.

>>154604255
I wouldn't read too far into it. Baxter's drink, as an example, is alcoholic even though he explicitly says on the show he doesn't drink. I think it might've been a disconnect between the people who wrote the book (it was definitely written before S2 came out and was finalized) and the writers for the show.

Since I pulled the book out again, let me post some other recipes. This one is for the ribs, which as it turns out are both dry rub AND saucy.

Dry Rub:

1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon onion salt
1 dash freshly ground black pepper

Ribs:
Half-rack of ribs
1 1/4 cups Mexican lager

Sauce:
1/2 cup unsalted butter
1 1/4 cups ketchup
3/4 cup Mexican lager
3/4 cup maple syrup
1/2 cup brown sugar, unpacked
1/4 cup apple cider vinegar
1/4 cup honey mustard
5 ounces Worcestershire sauce
1 1/2 ounces liquid smoke

Make the rub first, preheat oven to 225F. Apply dry rub to ribs, cook for 3 hours. After 3 hours, remove from the oven and wrap in tinfoil with the lager, then put it back flesh-side down for another 2 hours.

Remove from oven, apply the sauce, and then put it back in the oven for an hour or until it reaches 160F.

Insane amount of work for ribs.
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>>154604425
They had some noticeable changes in season 2 just from run time. And it takes awhile to even make a cook book.
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>>154602223
I will FUCK you!
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>>154604460
Don’t rape me, woman.
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>>154604425
And here's Lucifer's drink, turns out he did have one and I just missed it on the list.

1.5 ounces rye whiskey
3/4 ounce applejack
3/4 ounce of Brovo Uncharted Rhapsody American Forest Liqueur ($70/bottle)
2 dashes of bitters
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>>154604460
>I will FUCK you!
I mean fuck YOU up!!
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>>154604473
Get out of my crotch! Get out!
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>>154604425
>I double-checked the book and you add sugar and ginger to it, but the core of the recipe is slicing an apple and putting it in a thing full of apple cider vinegar.
I be honest chief, that sounds slightly sweeter apple cider vinegar with some apple garnish that isn't going to do anything for it. I never tried something like that but I am 90% sure it is shit.
>Insane amount of work for ribs.
That is also insane because it sounds like you would get the same result with a sweet barbecue applied straight from the bottle with 1/10 of the effort and probably better tasting. Like, ketchup, maple syrup, brown sugar, honey mustard? That is the sweetest meat sauce I have ever heard.
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>>154604466
Why so much product placement of hyper specific consumer drinks brands?
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Time for the inevitable YouTube video about the cook book
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Seems like something Viv would drink.
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>>154604349
thanks so much! i liked being able to see lute's whole face during the 'make you watch 'em bleed!' section through the torn picture. it's also interesting seeing what details either don't make it in or get softened - a lot of adam's expression work like the deeper snarl on his mask in 'burn 'em all!' is gone, or his more scrunchy eyes when he smacks the desk, while his dark eyebrows get lost in the mask but are so much clearer uncoloured.

also in the animatic version adam's animated singing the whole line for the first 'hard rain is gonna fall down', but for the full version adam's face is frozen in a :D expression until the 'down' part, which is unfortunate.
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Lute’s bitter drink has gold dust in it. Maybe that’s about her character arc of reformation.
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Honestly i feel like a lot of complex recipes are just being pretentious, you put in so many things they just blend to accomplish a similar effect as using a handful of properly chosen ingredients. Good gin or vodka, paired with ice or soda and a slice of lime or yuzu twist is fantastic. A good whiskey or bourbon only needs some ice. Same with cooking, you can achive the same results using sea salt, a pepper grinder, garlic, chopped chilis, white pepper (that you already have in the pantry and freezer) and some cajun seasoning, japanese basedsauce, chinese fishsauce and cooking wine and oregeno if you're planning in cooking something particularly ethnic; or dozens of random things you buy to use some small portion of and then just eternally clutter your kitchen
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>>154604788
No problem! It's interesting huh. The entire episode 2 animatic leaked but the copy I have has a big ugly watermark on it. Most of Gravity was obviously sourced separately without the watermark.
It was so hard being The Knowers for so long. You could tell a lot of people had watched it with the subtle shift in Guitarspear fan content after it leaked but having to wait nearly a full year for explicit fanart sucked
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what is next for our DEER friend?
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>>154605069
I have no interest in him unless it turns out Rosie is Roo and/or Roo affiliated and is keeping Lute/Eve on similar terms to him so their plotlines cross.
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>>154605114
who knows what the future holds
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>>154604856
How does Niffty even get treated like a sweetheart in this show.
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>>154605153
because she is?
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>>154600131
This is the ONLY horny Sera art I've ever seen that looked good. Holy shit
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>>154605147
If he becomes her horrible pseudosibling on whom she wishes death I will have no choice but to like him
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Eve wasn't even that hateful until she was forced to spend time with Alastor in the Rosie mines and realised her descendants Suck
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>>154604893
Nice bit of art? Got a link to it?
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>>154605213
would be wild if all the upper crusts of heaven and hell have beefs with the unattended offspring causing a ruckus in both heaven and hell. the only way to bring peace is for the offspring of those in positions f power learn to get along with each other to bring order back
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For all us Lute!Eve truthers here, which do you think is most likely when it comes to how she gained access to heaven:

> Through Sera and/or Adam

or

> Through Rosie/Roo

My best guess is the former, while the latter is how she goes about her main villain arc.
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>>154600115
In the napkin lore of the helliverse the 9th circle pride ring is the only one with sinners and should be extremely power gapped by even the lowliest imp. Like I.M.P could kill the vox and Rosie and rooirino (and flat out not be killable without angelic weapons either, like all hellspawn) because stolas got mildly annoyed level of power gapping. If by similar logic the saved are below all ranks of angels (immunity to weapons notwithstanding), Adam is only stronger through his basedness than overlords (and Charlie, but she's a girlfailure nephelim born in hell) and while he'll throw down with a fallen archangel it's not his fight to win. But Emily or seras as upper mid pantheon angels could personally doomguy 95% of upper ring hellspawn by themselves. And if Michael decided to ruin Lucifer's whole career yet again it'd be a 15 minute cinematic recolor of the looping piccolo raping vegeta meme with an added music number.
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Reminder:
If the apple was what made mankind evil then adam couldn't been bad to make Lilith want to leave him, Lucifer also says he gave mankind free will so that means lilith couldn't have free will to leave Adam at all and Lucifer kidnapped and basically raped her.
If Adam and Lilith were made with knowledge of good and evil and with free will then Adam still wasn't bad enough to go to hell even with all his supposed flaws.

So either Lucifer raped Lilith or Lilith lied about why she left Adam.
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>>154605548
My best guess? She simply didn’t love Adam. Not necessarily because he was awful at that point, she just wasn’t feeling it.
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>>154605548
Or Eve was different.
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>>154605428
Why would Sera even care?
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>>154605577
They probably overcorrected with Eve to make her more compliant. Lucifer feared this would adversely affect humanity, he couldn’t let it happen. So he gave her the apple so that she and her descendants would have free will.
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>>154604349
>no thoughts head empty
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>>154605153
I can fit my dick all the way through her body
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>liliths(plural) were a babylonian desert monster that stole your masculine essence in your dreams as sexy catgirl things
>Unironic torah fanfiction, possibly the first documented horny poster, writes about them being in the garden of eden
>Parallel myth of first wife Lilith is antiquities fanfiction.net addition to old testament, the refined story about "what if Scarlett from FF7 was in the garden of eden and oy gevalt I just couldn't take how she bullied my penis" off the liliths of the desert
>Doesn't work within the apple story at all
>Viv didn't know this while vaguely remembering Christmas mass and pop culture religious derision
>Knew even less in the pilot telling

Anons are hoping for a logical and well built payoff to Lilith lmao
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>>154605709
Wait there are multiple Liliths.
So there is a Lillith and a lilith in this show.
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>>154605512
>should be extremely power gapped by even the lowliest imp. Like I.M.P could kill the vox and Rosie and rooirino
Ehh, setting stops making sense if Imps are actually dangerous. They are literally trash. Hellborne are a step better.
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>>154605834
Exceptions of imps are somehow overly ridiculous.
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>>154605845
I mean? Not really. I.M.Ps aren't exactly exceptions. They are at the level of a bunch of thugs with guns. Skilled and plot armored but like, the only reason they aren't dead to a redneck in the middle of the woods is luck. Or really, to any random human. Fucking hell Blitzo got captured and turned into a circus show by a mexican redneck and only survived because of pure luck
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>>154605834
>Unironic Headcanon ranking
Imps and hellhounds are the lowest of hell, which in hellofaboss you see corrupting the souls of man and creating sinners/overlords in their show who are just fucking goober nothing's post mission when viewed from the perspective of a (low) upper ring.

The answer to why seras doesn't just kill vox is unironically don't think about it.
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Hello everyone! :3
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>>154605924
>The crackhead sinner angeldust watched get killed by a car was stronger than every demon in hell lower than the top 20.
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>>154605924
Canonical I am afraid.
https://youtu.be/9QsqHdfVx_8?t=7062&si=_SVZ_Baw3tzLUPl0

Imps are the working class! Heh
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>>154605428
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Lute!Eve came up with the exterminations and let Adam propose it and take the credit. Vosk even called her a mastermind.

The big reveal scene should probably serve as a parallel to ‘Overture’. Charlie’s in a dark room. Suddenly the lights come on and there’s Lute, eating from a big plate of ribs.
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>>154606020
>Ignores, forgets, or instead went with her ring division of hell post interview
>Had to think 4 ums deep about basic logic of show universe
>Fucked up her own order twice
>Charlie is no2 but got f i r s t m a n'd

I'll be charitable and say she's talking about class hierarchy because neither show has held to that as power ranking. Sinners still don't have any dealings with demons and that'll continue as long as Amazon conceptually owns everything their money produces.
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>>154605069
Do we know anything about his parents
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>>154606147
I think Abel and Lute will be working together purposely.
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>>154605870
You gotta actually think about what they’re ultimately doing to the system that the elites of Hell can’t do. Shake it up.
If the order on the bottom is dismantled, the house of cards will crumble apart.
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>>154606512
>If the order on the bottom is dismantled, the house of cards will crumble apart.
just like in real life
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>>154607174
Yes.
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The character designs for Heaven are super mid.
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>>154606354
I hope not. I don't want to like him more out of sympathy because he respects women to much.
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>>154606454
Oh I do agree.

I can see the light turning on, Lute!Eve sitting down eating ribs and an a stone faced Abel standing behind her.
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Vaggi has a wicked nose
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>>154607699
Abel would be the one eating the ribs and try to act like Lure because he is the ultimate wannabe.
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>>154607763
The art in this show is so bad.
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>>154607763
wicked AND cute
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>>154607451
Imagine putting all your effort into raising your child the best you can only to find out your child is a serial killer and made a deal with hell

>Her mother died and actually went to hell, everyone assumed she went to heaven and didn't bother checking
>She finds out about her son
>She is absolutely disgusted
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>>154607396
Yeah?
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>>154607763
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>>154604845
Best girl.
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When will Looty return from the wars
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>>154605973
Hello!
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>>154609949
Tomorrow.
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Once Looty returns all nonbelievers will be punished for their crimes.
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>>154608250
dude
that sounds like her mom is friends with *Susan* episode
to fucking funny to actually happen
its fucking filler content
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>>154610496
>her mom
his mom
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>>154600144
Not really, they help supposedly good people, or atleast people who have brought some benefit to those who go to heaven, who are going through something. The hotel turns bad people good.
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>>154606147
oh that even has foreshadowing - one of the first things we learn about adam is that he fucking LOVES putting his name on shit, it's the best.
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Y'know what id do if I was sent down to Hazbin Hell?
>Kick down the door to the hotel and grab Lucifer.
>"I'm going to punch your face!"
>Gasp.
>"In the face!"
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>>154610725
>Not in the face! Not in the face!!
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>>154610747
I wonder if any particularly religious sinner ever tried to off Lucifer, blaming him for what's happened to them?
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>>154610775
If Lucifer cannot harm a sinner, he can most certainly be harmed by them.
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>>154610786
....I. uh.
>Lucifer is tied up by Holy Bindings.
>He has to watch Charlie getting gangbanged by angry Sinners.
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>>154610794
>adam is annoyed that charlie's late for the meeting and goes looking for her
>teleports to lucifer like 'hey dickwad your dumb kid never showed up and-'
>sees the situation
>pulls out the axe
>kills all the sinners and breaks lucifer's bindings
>'sooooo what'd you wanna meet with me for anyway?'
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>>154610844
>charlie says nothing, so lucifer speaks for her
>'she's going home, meeting's off.'
>'sure bro. next extermimation's in six months by the way.'
>'three.'
>'huh?'
>'dad, please no-'
>'the next extermination is in three months.'
>'you're not the boss of me! you're not a lesbian!'
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Would Charlie make a good mom, or would it be a total disaster?
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>>154610865
She'd be a total disaster. Vaggie is an enabler so she'd make the situation even worse.
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>>154600131
SEX
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>>154610844
>>154610853
Kino as fuck
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>>154610885
When totally worn out and exhausted, they enlist the hotel to help.
It's made even worst.
Only when everyone's passed out and the baby left crying does Nifty, surprisingly, come into the picture and help ease the little one down.
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>>154610891
in a scenario where someone is against lucifer adam will almost always take that someone's side - even charlie.

lilith almost managed to take advantage of this to make adam not want to go through with the exterminations after all (since lucifer clearly didn't give a shit about the exterminations) until adam realised what she was doing and also noticed her horror that lucifer didn't give a shit either.
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>>154607788
Being the lightweight he is, he gets halfway through the rack before he’s too stuffed to continue. Lute!Eve rolls her eyes and allows his to rest his head on her lap.

>>154610649
Indeed he does. And Eve is happy for her big lug to take the credit as long as these exterminations happen.
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Why is Charlie called a hellborn demon if she's the daughter of a fallen angel and a human-turned-demoness?
Someone clear it out, is she adopted?
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Are Winner designs just Sinner designs, for all intents and purposes?
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>>154611216
They seem to also treat the goat servants as hellborn despite them being made by creation magic. My guess is that hellborn is meant to be treated as a catch all term for beings born( in the case of later generations of imps and Charlie) and made in hell( first generation hellborn made through magic and Razzle/Dazzle). Basically everything excluding sinners.
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>>154611221
Yes because Viv is incredibly lazy and couldn't resist filling heaven with furries and other malformed creatures.
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>>154611216
given her weird dog nose neither lilith nor lucifer have, i could see charlie's mother actually being a hellhound maid lucifer cheated on lilith with which would qualify her as a true hellborn.
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>>154611160
> Being the lightweight he is, he gets halfway through the rack before he’s too stuffed to continue. Lute!Eve rolls her eyes and allows his to rest his head on her lap.

Pfft, you think he’d get that far? Nah, he’d likely stop when he cuts his lip on the bone midway through eating.
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>>154607421
Silence, blasphemer
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>>154610844
Considering no one important actually came to help Lucifer when he got bound and used as a battery, that would be a bitter lesson for him.

(Like, you think at least one Sin or Goetia would give a fuck about an Overlord imprisoning Lucifer, the King of Hell, using him as a battery, attacking and nearly starting a war with Heaven.)
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>>154611967
to be fair, only charlie even knew he was missing. judging by his absence from satan's court not being treated as unusual, he's well known as a recluse even before that. not hearing anything from lucifer for a while is probably nothing special.

i do hope the next season gets into lucifer's hatred of sinners though, like he's just been horrifically humiliated by them.
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>>154611221
>>154611318
Sinners are cursed to look that way. Winners are not. Winners are supposed to be the opposite.
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>>154610844
If Adam didn't die, we could have a chill Adam saving Lucifer from Vs for Charlie
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Happy Sunday everyone!
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>>154607763
Never got why she drew Vaggie like that.
>>154612769
Cute!
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>>154612769
Happy Sunday!
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>When Charlie and Vaggie invite you to be part of the threesome
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>>154613017
Lucifer...
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>>154613017
Adam…
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>>154613017
CHARLIE!
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>>154613017
>>154613094
they will impregnate him.
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>>154613017
No.
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>>154612769
It’s arts like this that get me to realize Abel’s halo is actually a crown formed by a soundwave.
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>>154613567
almost like a pulse? his was the first human heartbeat to stop...
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>>154613567
>>154613613
Pretty sure it's supposed to be dented from him getting rocked in the head by his brother.
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>>154613613
>>154613635
Yes and yes.
What’s notable to me is that arch angel Adam doesn’t have a crown halo and only seraphims so far do. The angels shown to be more powerful than arch angels.
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Everyone look at the birb
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>>154613731
just checked the tvtropes page for adam and:

"Body Motifs: The penis. Not only is his dialogue about 50% brags about his own genitals and he himself is a huge dick, but his Brought to You by the Letter "S" symbol is an A shaped like a big cock. His mask's horns also look like a pair of open legs with thigh highs on them, causing his halo to look like a penis about to enter a vagina. On a thematic level, he's clearly supposed to represent the worst excesses of patriarchy."

that's a new level of horny for adam to look at his halo and sexualise it.
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>>154613764
cute birb
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>>154613800
I genuinely can’t see any of this in the design. It feels like feminist speech.
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>>154613822
to me it reads more like it was written by someone who's never actually seen a penis.
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>>154613832
Or a woman’s lower half before.
Do they think they have backwards feet.
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>>154613832
His A logo does bring to mind the cartoon dicks that middle school boys draw on everything but I don't see the horns and halo thing.
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>>154613866
His A is supposed to be a A with a Christian cross inside of it. And its locations are on Adam’s chest and Abel’s head. The areas where they are killed from.
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>>154613866
i think it reveals more about the writer of that section that they saw adam's helmet and halo and thought 'thigh highs with a penis about to enter!'.
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>>154613279
Let Adam do his job and get women pregnant. That's literally his main role in existence.
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>>154613822
It's Tvtropes. It's 100th percent nonsense feminist speech. Check Lucifer's page if you want to see how hard they glaze the manlet.
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>>154614125
His logo being interpreted as a penis is really odd.
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>>154614236
I can’t wait till serpent seed is confirmed and they have to admit that guy used a woman as a baby machine.
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>>154614208
oh he can definitely get them pregnant too and they can have triplets kind of.
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>>154614236
i feel like their whole article was written by the types of people who watched the fight against adam and decided he raped charlie and vaggi and whoever they want to be victimised by him next and wrote a bunch of fanfics around that concept, but would be absolutely horrified at someone writing adam and charlie having loving consensual sex (or even kinky CNC sex).
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>>154614263
No. Because that plotline/theory is shit and Tvtropes tards will somehow twist something like that into noble bullshit. Actually read some of the insane shit they wrote there. Unless they go for actual onscreen no deniability rape they still will baby Lucifer.
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>>154614352
It doesn’t matter if you hate the plotline, it’s there and everyone is going to have to react to it.
Reading how badly tv tropes copes about it is going to be amazing.
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>>154614300
I want them to read like, God Says Feelings Are For Pussies. They would combust from anger.

>“AAAAGHH!” Charlie screamed, hands jerking as she resisted the urge to claw at her hair. “I’M NOT DOING IT! FOUL THOUGHTS BEGONE!”

>Her expression turned pitiful as she sulked. “Why him? Why not that nice exorcist girl? She called me demonic filth! That’s like… race play or something. Why couldn’t I just be into something normal and safe like that?!”

>A rhetorical question. She knew why by now. A regular old exorcist wasn’t good enough, oh no. She was Charlie Morningstar after all, that came with certain standards. Anything less, and the decision might not thoroughly burn her life to ash. She had to pick the fucking nuclear option if she wanted to be absolutely certain she wouldn’t survive.

>The shameful truth of it was, Charlie didn’t want to have sex with Adam in spite of the laundry list of reasons it was a bad idea, but precisely because it was a bad idea. A terrible, horrible, no good, very bad, evil, evil, incredibly fucking erotic idea.

>He was way too fucking old for her? Hot. He was an angel and thus her mortal enemy by nature? Even hotter. He was her mother’s ex-husband so having sex with him would break several serious taboos? Insanely hot. Her father had explicitly forbidden her from seeing him? Beyond hot. Scalding. She got burns just thinking about it.
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>>154614520
Woman. No.
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>>154614626
Women yes! I 100% recommend it to anyone who likes Adam and GuitarPrincess! It is written very well.
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>>154614677
This is better than the one about the crawling darkness in Adam's veins.
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>>154614459
No Bugcuck.
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>>154614677
it's okay but it looks like it's been dropped on such a painful cliffhanger, and i also don't like that it's written in that font as opposed to the ao3 font.
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>>154614694
i feel like that one's primary failure is that not a single line of dialogue or narration from adam actually sounds like it's from adam and not some absurdly eloquent OC wearing his face. if you rewrote it to actually be in his voice, it could be slightly salvaged, even if a bit melodramatic.
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>>154614749
thankfully, it is not dropped. Last I checked, Chapter 14 is on the way. It just takes the author a few months to write each time. Considering each chapter is around 20k words, it isn't that bad.
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>>154614777
Yeah, at that point I'm thinking does this author even like Adam at all? The author is a guy which goes some way to explain why he doesn't understand the romantic appeal of canon Adam.
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>>154614877
Canon Adam romantic appeal seems to be kinda off a dick(heh) but nice to some specific few people.
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>>154614677
Alright, you convinced me. That's already better than Season 2 Charlie.
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What does Abel do in his free time?
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>>154615325
Rage and play music.
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>>154615325
He definitely still shepherds as a hobby. He loves his sheep.
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>>154615325
Goons to pictures of Emily.
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>>154615325
Throws darts at pictures of Alastor.
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>>154615429
Lucifer and Charlie.
He doesn’t know about Alastor.
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>>154615515
Lucifer and Charlie aren't the ones stealing his girl.
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>>154614940
combination of factors.

physical:

physique - incredibly not all women are into twinks, i know i was just as shocked as you
size difference - he could do the cliche 'one hand holding down both your hands' thing which is hot as fuck
physical strength - evokes both danger ('oh no, if this lecherous beast wants to ravage me (because i'm so irresistible you see) there's nothing i could do~!') and safety
both the mask and his face are attractively shaped and nice to look at (i'm in love with the eyebags on his real face personally)
excellent voice and singing voice, i've listened to that first 'hey, hey hey, slow down, we've got time~' clip an unholy amount of times
looks soft and cuddly despite being dangerous, invokes the 'i wanna pet that polar bear' instinct.

personality:

confidence is attractive, end the unjust reign of the fake humble guys
wouldn't fuck around with games or schemes, if he likes you he'll say it and if he's mad he'll say it too
some people are into pet names, some aren't. if you're into them you'll be very happy
despite his overall domineering attitude he still knows when to sit tight and let you take center stage, and will harmonise with you rather than make you sing his tune
is catnip to anyone still in their 'i'm not like the other girls' phase who just want to feel special
of course, the 'i can fix him'/'beauty and the beast' vibe, though 'he can fix me?'/'beauty becomes a beast too' is a sleeper hit
the ineloquence of his speech is kinda charming, i like when he stutters
i have very little to base this on other than vibes but he has a praise kink that he doesn't know about for sure. like intellectually he 'knows' he's the best, but actually tell him he's the best and he'll melt at the validation.
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>>154615515
Alastor is black man. He naturally hates him because he is not a black woman he can have mixed children with.
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>>154615549
You deserve an award for this post
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Adam is so sexy
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>>154615549
This is all correct and I don't have anything to add other than the masked form also appeals to furries and monsterfuckers (although the Beauty and the Beast thing kind of covers that too).
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>>154615549
Preach it
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I’m not homophobic but Adam being confirmed Straight gave me some relief. It’s childish I know, but it is what it is.
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>>154615812
Guy or girl?
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>>154615812
Same.
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>>154615812
I personally just found it nice. There's was like only one straight relevant character in hell so giving heaven more makes sense. Also making Adam straight kills all the retarded "he's secretly gay and doesn't like women" Fujo brainrot.
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>>154615851
Girl
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>>154616095
>"he's secretly gay and doesn't like women" Fujo brainrot
This is always annoying. Shows a total lack of understanding of how people work. Closeted men are not thinking about women all the time because they are subconsciously trying to cover for liking men, Closeted men are thinking about men. Adam is clearly thinking about women 24/7. He's got some very strange hangups in his relationships and sexual expression (namely that he can't seem to keep an emotional connection in all this sex he's having) but these aren't hangups over being gay.
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>>154616231
You deserved that W.
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Do you guys believe in Sinner Adam?
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>>154616328
only if he has a cool as fuck design and not just 'adam but red'.
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>>154616328
No because he did nothing wrong.
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>>154616328
Yes and he will fix Lute!Eve by throwing himself enthusiastically into Overlord life and inviting her to join him so she learns that not everything she caused by taking the apple is terrible.
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It’d be kino
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>>154616328
No. I believe in resurrected Adam that might have a more monster-like form.
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>Abel’s halo is a crown
>Emily’s halo is a tiara
>Adam’s halo looks like Lute and the Exorcist’s halos
The halos do the shipping for us.
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>>154616523
Massive bird like creature like Howl's later form?
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>>154616761
Yes. But with it having a completely opposite meaning to it.
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>>154616523
It would be funny if Sinner Adam happens and his form is the Pilot Adam
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>>154616793
Lute will be laying so many eggs after one night with that thing.
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>>154616793
I actually expect that to be Abel’s true form.
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>>154616386
Actually, wouldn’t that be the funniest thing?

If Lute!Eve ends up becoming the de facto Queen of Hell being the wife to its biggest overlord?
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>>154616793
Suddenly handsome.
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>>154616793
that'd be so cool. there's been some art and fics where sinner adam is draconic/a dragon but i guess none of them knew about his pilot art. maybe more people would awaken to how absurdly huggable adam's design is, but then again if they didn't love him as a human then they don't deserve him at his 'so fluffy i'm gonna die'.
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Dragon Adam sexo
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>>154616861
Look girl, even Canon Adam probably has a cock bigger than your arm. Pilot Adam is even bigger and has a dragonic cock. You would die.

Also, fuck you Canon Adam is handsome.
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There's not a lot of this unfortunately...
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>>154616921
And Lute with long hair… heh, maybe that was before they realised the design was a bit too obvious with the shadow story book opening. lol
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>>154616793
Where can I view this?
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>>154616861
>>154616921
>>154616932
*No*
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>>154616969
Unfortunately that's the only image we have of that design. It's not an animatic.
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>>154616936
>Lute is Eve, the curly haired woman, because she has straight white long hair
No
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>>154616984
Says the guy who interprets Lute's hair as bug antenna.
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I don't understand the people that want Alastor to corrupt Emily and have her fall. This is tge same character that wants to work alone and rule alone, broke out of a contract to be truly unchained, and doesn't want anyone romantically. But for some reason people are pushing for this narrative that he'll corrupt Emily, a character he's never interacted with once and highly tied to Charlie, have her fall, and become his Queen? The fuck are these people smoking.
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I don't know if I will be relieved or sad that one day this BugEve and LuteEve debate will end.

Probably with disappointment knowing Vivi.
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>>154616924
Seethe more. Fur is better.
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>>154617035
It's classic Dark Fantasy smut. Repressed women want the big scary demon man to slowly corrupt the pure angel girl.
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>>154617013
Her horns look like bug antennas.
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>>154616932
Every lionking gooner would have melted.
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>>154617035
It's basically a replacement for Charlastor.
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>>154616820
Yup
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>>154617035
Straight women are retarded.
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>>154617040
Bug Lute means Viv can disappoint us with a lame copy paste design that looks as undercooked as the virtue angels.
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>>154616846
Honestly it would be pretty poetic if the parents of humanity who got kicked out of Eden over the primordial sin would end up ruling over their sinner descendants. Mommy and daddy are home and if you misbehave their pulling out the belt.
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>>154616984
Bugcuck nobody cares about your RAPED opinion.
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>>154617093
>Have a premise of mantis angels
>Just make them goetias
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Eve!Lute introduces a whole extra layer of angst to a Sinner Adam reunion because without her mistake he'd never be corrupted into this in the first place.
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>>154617090
What’s your problem?
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>>154617140
She's not getting dicked enough therefore fewer outlets for stress relief
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Serapherd is cuter
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>>154617135
Might as well suicide.
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>>154617140
Alastor is Ace you dumb fuck. Why would he need a queen!?
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>>154617171
And is Sera shipped with
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>>154617164
That’s Looty?
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>>154617186
Exactly
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>>154617197
Looty is still on vacation plus I just know she fucks
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>>154617186
Because it’s cute, fuckface!
>>154617188
Lilith!
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>>154617208
Dry humps
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We got a fresh retard.
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>>154617186
You think people care about canon sexualities? When it comes to shipping it doesn't matter. From the most cliche Voldemort/Harry Potter to the Ben/Gwen,.
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>>154617135
That’s a great way to make everything worse.
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I think you should go fuck yourself a fork
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>>154617135
>I will put Eden in a woman’s lense
>Do this with it and make the devil and his daughter better than her and her loyal husband
Very thoughtful Viv.
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>>154617241
This is the kind of thing Abel posts and then deletes and feels so guilty about he goes to confession
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I’m reading Adam x Reader smut, it’s very good.
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>>154617252
That's pathetic.
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Lucy did nothing wrong.
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>>154617254
Share with the class?
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>>154615549
I assume the face reveal before *death with lute was also a slam dunk on the beauty and the beast archetype front.

It's ironic the "bad guys" straight romance is the only one eating good on all sides.
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>>154617254
Adam has a surprising number of good smut. And unlike Alastor ones, I don't need to look out for snuff. (Alastor has really fucked up fans even if I shouldn't kink shame)
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He’s just a nice sensitive young man. Please don’t bully him and make him cry
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>>154617265
He did everything wrong. Should have deleted his ass.
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>>154617252
It does sound very Abel.
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>>154617276
Alot of good Waxplay stuff, which is wild because it feels like Waxplay has gone out of fashion for more extreme shit.
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>>154617287
get stabbed by a roach.
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>>154617297
Wtf is Wax play?
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>>154617282
If I made that I would kms.
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>>154617311
You light a candle, and you drip the hot wax on someone
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>>154617320
I’m waiting.
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>>154617351
Just why?
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>>154617352
Sorry I'm not a retarded woman.
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>>154617275
>I assume the face reveal before *death with lute was also a slam dunk on the beauty and the beast archetype front.
Never thought about it before but Adam's death scene does have a similar vibe to it. Doesn't hurt that Disney Beast's human name is Adam too
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>>154617359
Have you no curiosity?
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>Adam comes back
>”No more killing.”
>Abel and the Exorcists have a much worse reaction to the news than Lute does
>”But I wanna.”
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>>154617301
No
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>>154617385
Actually funny.
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>>154617359
That's like one of the most tame BDSM techniques. How is that weird!?
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>>154617371
So is Lute the beast larping as the beauty about to get Shrek’d?
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>>154617275
That's because all others range from shit to decent.

Here, putting my personal opinion out there.

Alastor: While I like some bites during sex and I don't really mind serial killing, cannibalism is a turn off. Plus too thin and his whole behavior screams fake.
Husk: I love the voice and the furry, but alcoholism and gambling are huge turn off. Plus short.
Angel:While I four hands is four times the fun, too feminine, too sub and honestly, too raped.
Vox: Alastor but better, hell possible the best one on this list even if he is a bit too thin. Biggest downside is probably he is too focused on work than me.
Valentino: Too feminine, too rapey and abusive in not a fun way and too thin.
Abel: ...he is Abel. What do you want me to say?
Pentious: Actually, he might be the best in this list even if he is a bit too nice and seems to focus too much on his tech and machines. His snuggles must be top-notch alongside his tongue game and I bet he does great aftercare.
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>>154617265
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>>154617399
Bro might be a sheltered Mormon. Leave him alone.
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>>154617414
Mormons are a sex cult
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>>154617359
Never look into the definition of snuff or vore kinks if some waxplay is too much.
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>>154617412
Ah yes this old cope.
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>>154617409
Abel never gets the shot to do anything because he would’ve been too impactful in Vox season.
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>>154617456
Lmfao!
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>>154617371
>Adam dying
>Lute takes off his mask
>Is sharp jawed kind eyed Chad with enough grey in his sideburns to call him daddy
>Smiles at her
Did both the death and the visual transformation.
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>>154617451
It’s not too much. It’s just bizarrely unsexy. Like imagine there is sex time and the main course of it is watching paint dry.
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>>154617484
Only true facts
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>>154617266
/works/61181884
i had to finish reading it
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>>154617480
>We’re going to grab this candle and watch it slowly melt on your body for hours.
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Why did they make vaggie so hot? In the pilot she was cute, i eventually liked her design but she looked like a goblin but in the show she is pure sexo.
All the exorcist angels are so hot.
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>>154617480
wax also leaves a weird texture on your skin (one time i had a wax hand model made at a ripley's believe it or not place and it felt AWFUL) and the thought of that sensation during sex is bleghghgh.
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>>154617455
>The cope that... Lucifer got buckbroken in the fall by the loyal forces of heaven
>Viv went so far as to have God even keep him from being able to punish the damned himself.
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>>154617517
Vaggie never gets sexy till season 2. And when she is, I am mad she is a dead end dyke.
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loserfer LOST
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>>154617517
idk man but she's a real cut above the others. Like overwhelming sexy.
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>>154617527
We’re getting yeast in that vagina tonight.
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Oh yeah they 100% based Adam's death scene off this.
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>>154617555
Eh, I wouldn't recommend it. I once tried honey in pussy trick with my girlfriend. While sexy, it gets sticky everywhere if you aren't fast enough and she will need a shower immediently afterwards
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>>154617575
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>>154617517
I don't see it. She has that fucked up nose.
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>>154617545
He got gaped
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>>154617580
You actually did that?
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>>154617545
Lucy really lost all the hype and charisma he got the moment Season 2 started and it got worse and worse until he was just a power source.
Adam should have done a Bugs Bunny trick and he could have killed Lucifer. He is that dumb.
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>>154617580
Holy kekaroo.
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>>154617628
Abel will bugs bunny Lucifer and it will be taken 100a% seriously.
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>>154617628
Keep in mind that S3 will make him even more pathetic for sympathy points. We're gonna reach new heights of retardation.
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What’s your most schizophrenic Hazbin Hotel theory?
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>>154617675
There are writers that work for Vizi.
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>>154617616
Yep, I would recommend sticking to just licking and sucking honey from the breasts of your girl. Way less messy and the aftermath can be cleaned up with just a wet wipe.
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>>154617671
I feel like we are going to get GirlBoss! Lilith that 100% pegs Lucifer. Then everyone will see how Adam "commanding" Lilith was just Lilith being a girlboss who don't take shit even from her equal Adam.
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Adam’s big ass hand grabbing the whole tiddy
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I'm hungry for Chinese food. With a lot of ducksauce.
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>>154617777
>Checked
Adam…
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>>154617734
viv's liked a post about hoping lilith is problematic so i wonder how far she's willing to go with that. if she means 'teehee problematic girlboss!' then that's lame but if she takes lilith as far as she's willing to take characters like valentino or stella...
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>>154617796
Sounds more like Lucifer because of his obsession. But really I need something to eat rn.
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>>154617771
his hands are honestly kinda tiny in the show...

>>154617823
lute get out from under there!
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>>154617849
>lute get out from under there!
anon…i
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>>154617705
I’m not taking any advice from you.
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>>154617734
We're gonna learn Adam and Eve were actually happy with eachother but Lilith showed up like Thragg to ruin everything.
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>>154617591
>Viv will take this scene for Adam to resurrect as a bug
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>>154618077
What is with this weird bug obsession? We're obviously getting Bird Adam. BIRD ON.
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>>154617098
Eve could ensure that Hell is what she thinks it's supposed to be: a place where the worst of the worst are *punished*.
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>>154618292
It’s actually a bug dragon Adam. Lute and Abel elements merged together.
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>>154617802
I mean, what I'd *love* to see is a morally complicated woman who understands and probably even acknowledges -- unlike Lucifer yet -- that she and her husband did far more harm than good through their actions, but doesn't see any way of fixing it, so she just ran off. She may not shed any tears for Adam, but she might genuinely feel bad that Eve had to be a patsy. She might have thought she was doing Eve a favour, but a part of her probably wanted to prove a point that Eve would abandon Adam once she gained free will and that she (lilith) wasn't the problem.

People are messy. And I hope they do that with Lilith. That he loves her husband and daughter, but decided to do what she felt was best for her, which yes, is selfish.

She might even tell Charlie in S3 that she is *not* someone the latter should idolise.
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>Two Abel wings
>Six Exorcist wings

>Lute and the exorcists have two wings
>Abel is hinted to be a seraphim hybrid
So that’s why there is a t-shirt of this. It’s a mingle of Abel and Lute elements.
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>>154618364
i'm personally a fan of the idea that lilith knows under any other circumstance, she might've loved - or at least liked - adam, but heaven attempting to force the issue was the true problem. i think the fact that she reacts to adam's death, even subtly, indicates that he still meant something to her; it would've been easier for them not to animate her reacting at all, but we see her head looking down at the obviously bloodied halo (also still can't unhear how different lute's voice sounds in this moment).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36xC7RgupHQ
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>>154618513
Huh? What shirt
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Adam's so powerful that he makes fujos remember they're women and ship het instead.
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>>154618547
https://www.hottopic.com/product/hazbin-hotel-guitar-solo-adam-mineral-wash-t-shirt/32933980.html?srsltid=AfmBOorV-4CbK1YBdn_0FKqAl9nSNA7Ll5bSlQEvg3X6CPIfufHXYC2m
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>>154618542

> Lilith: "He wasn't all that bad... I mean, he got worse, but... Charlie, the truth is: I just wasn't in love with him."

> Charlie: "... that's it?"

> Lilith: "That's it. And I felt like something was wrong with me, because I didn't."
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>>154618571
there's more because your only options for men with any canon interaction with adam are lucifer (boring, basic, pedestrian) and alastor (hotter but lacking any substantial emotional connection from adam's side). adam straight up does not talk to any men besides them so any other ships are pure vibes based conjecture.

rest assured if adam ever interacts with other men meaningfully i'll imagine them impregnating his omega ass during heat until the cows come home but otherwise guitarspear/flowertunes and guitarprincess are objectively the best adam ships.
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>>154618542
Everytime I see that beach scene, I can't help but chuckle at everything Charlie and Lucifer is going through.

Adam, my man, why did you let Lilith play with your heart and love again? At least the sex was probably worth it.
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>>154618662
Lilith Eve makes a lot more sense for Adam’s simping than Lilith.
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>>154618542
>(also still can't unhear how different lute's voice sounds in this moment).

Yeah, I can't unhear it, either. I'm surprised more people haven't picked up on this. It's subtle, but there's something off about her voice here. Like it's her *real* voice because there's no one else around.

You see, I'm convinced this beach, the outdoors where Lilit has tea... I'm convinced this is Eden.

And that this is where Eve went when she died (with or without a few thousand years of purgatory), rather than heaven proper or Hell.

I'm convinced it was Eve (later Lute) who came up with the exterminations, and used Lilith's uprising as the perfect opportunity to pitch the idea to Adam, who loves to put his name on something. When Lilith agreed to whatever deal was struck, part of it was that Eve could a ticket into Heaven where she felt she belonged, but under the guise of an Exorcist -- cuz c'mon, how else would you explain why Eve is suddenly there?

Vosk described Lute as a mastermind -- maybe she was indeed the mastermind behind the Exterminations.
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Why is Charlie a stick figure with Lilith as her mother? How did everything skip her? If I was her, I would be so fucking angry at it.
...
It is Lucifer's fault
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>>154618662
the beach scene not so much. but watching lilith fans twist themselves in knots trying to blame her being silent and remaining in heaven for the month after season one and all of season two as still part of adam's deal somehow, when adam being dead means the deal is dead as per lute's word (which we have no reason to distrust when it comes to the deal) and lute ALSO explicitly tells her 'if you want to STAY here' as part of her threat, is funny as hell.
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>>154618758
if we'd never seen her breakdown in the alley i'd be certain, based off this voice change, that she was faking the court freak-out, specifically because of those comments about her being a mastermind. as to her motive for that, couldn't say...

the only times her voice in S2 comes close to this delivery again is 'he's WEAK', then /perhaps/ with her 'did you?' line as a softer read in that same growly tone.
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>>154618758
I don’t see it. It makes the whole Lute Eve thing extremely pointless when Adam could’ve gone over there at any time. And Eve wouldn’t really have issues being there at all.

> When Lilith agreed to whatever deal was struck, part of it was that Eve could a ticket into Heaven where she felt she belonged, but under the guise of an Exorcist -- cuz c'mon, how else would you explain why Eve is suddenly there?
Why would Eve even need weak demon powers to access a Heaven Lilith isn’t even allowed to enter?
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Testing testing,
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>>154618850
Oh yes, back in... Sup guys.
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>>154618906
Have you ever watched Coraline?
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>>154618938
Yes. No, Eve isn't using some disguise like Other Mother to pass off as Lilith.

Good to be back.
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>>154618846
> And Eve wouldn’t really have issues being there at all.

Wouldn't she? Being confined to Eden, unable to live alongside her husband, children, etc. Kept away like a secret, something to be ashamed of. One of the agreed motivations behind Lute!Eve is her guilt for taking the apple and what it caused, that she feels like it's her failure she must atone for. That she doesn't feel that she's good enough (Vosk's words). What an insult it be to be confined to the beach like something to be shuffled away.

She might feel she's entitled to be in Heaven. She is the mother of humanity; she deserved to be at her husband's side.

She might also feel she can't just live with those circumstances, lounging on the beach while Hell only grows larger, all because of what she did.

> Why would Eve even need weak demon powers to access a Heaven Lilith isn’t even allowed to enter?

Allow me to be more specific; I'm refering to the deal that was struck between Adam, Lilith and presumably Sera those seven years ago.

And c'mon, how would the second in command of the Exorcists, if she was but an exorcist, be privy to such a high-level secret that Lilith was there?
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>>154619063
I’m pointing out that movie because Lute has the Beldam’s hair style when the Beldam shows off her true appearance.
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>>154618842
Entirely possible she affected her 'Eve' voice for Lilith as an intimidation or guilt tactic.

She's probably used to speaking in that Lute growl now. Plus, she's emotionally a mess at that point.
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>>154619107
No, Lute isn't a bug.
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>>154619102
Heaven not having a military till seven years ago is stupid when they’re already dealing with earth for thousands of years with cherubs.
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>>154619138
Who's to say they didn't have a military already? They probably already did, but it was the Exterminations specifically that she put forward.

The other Exorcists may only understand Lute as this psychotic exorcist who showed up one day as Adam's right hand.
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>>154619138
Who ever said they only had the the army seven years ago? It's the annual purges that have just started taking place seven years ago. Presumably, the army has been around before then. Cleetus aludes to this in Helluva Boss.
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>>154619157
Why use an inexperienced chick that has no military background at all?
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>>154619131
Is there any way to deny bug girl route?
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>>154611384
For further contrast to the scene from 'Overture', Abel politely invites Charlie to join them, assuring Charlie there's no holograms this time.

Charlie takes a rib, licking her lips...and just before she can go nom nom, Lute slaps it out of her hands.

"... yyyeah, uh-huh."
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Adam and his big belly...
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>>154619208
Bugcuck, leave me alone. You sent me an ask and I told you to stop then. Gotta stop with this obsession of me, dude. Notable how as soon as I'm unbanned, you're the first to message me on here. This is why people started shipping us. Hop off my dick.
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>>154619197
Have you checked the Exorcists? A lot of them go swinging their weapons with wild abandon cuz they've never had to really learn defence before. This ain't a regular human army.

Plus, it'd work if Lute!Eve on earth was a ruthless, savage warrior, the kind who kept the family alive on prehistoric earth. The one who invented spears and hunter/gathering, warding off predators from her children at night, cutting off children from the tribe who weren't strong enough to survive, etc.

This is the thing -- people keep assuming Eve *must* have been this delicate flower of a trad wife. If Lute is Eve, it'd explain how mankind survived the first couple generations.
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>>154619230
Okay. So you have nothing to fight the bug agenda.
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>>154619278
There isn’t a single Eve trait or decision besides her eating the apple and sleeping with the devil.
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>>154619293
That we know of. We barely know anything else about her.
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Bugcuck really wants to suck Looty's dick huh
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Can't wait to see a lot of role-swap AUs of this post-reveal in S3.
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>>154619300
So why are there these giant narratives of Eve becoming Lute when not a single thing about Eve was shown besides her appearance?
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>>154619319
How so?
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>>154619326
Because Jessica Vosk has alluded to an identity reveal with Lute specifically and she accidentally spoiled Lute being Eve. Pretty straightforward.
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>>154619332
Because you know there's gonna be a lot of au fanart depicting Lute!Eve in other villain's situation. Like the Vox Populi scene or here with Adam's breakdown.

> Lute!Eve: "You WEAK, disgusting, vile, DEMON FIL--!" (gags as she's stabbed in the back by Niffty)
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>>154619356
She spoiled Lute’s name change, the Lillith in the room forsaken her name leaving that title open for the taking and for the branding.
Whoever Lute was isn’t yet introduced into the story till we know the history of Lucifer and Hell. Cause she might’ve been the first vaggie/charlie/emily.
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>>154619402
She's Eve. Her name change was "Lute."
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>>154619425
Then who is Lillith? We know Lillith isn’t going to be Lilith.
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I slept all day :(
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>>154619474
Yes, we do. Everyone does. Viv already confirmed she's just Lilith. Twice.
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>>154619311
Yeah. He doesn't leave me alone, to be honest.
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>>154619596
Do you have a good explanation for the Lillith spelling at all and why the only poster with the Lillith name looks like Eden Eve?
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>>154619363
(Anyway.) Yes, that's a good point. I hadn't thought of that. Maybe some where she's portrayed as the one that's been killed instead of Adam. Speaking of: Do you think the Adam hallucination is genuine or is it Roo's doing?
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>>154619556
Would Mammon and Adam be friends?
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>>154619667
Yeah, it’s called a mistake. An accident. A misspelling.
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>>154619740
I'm going to go against the grain here and say for as lovable as a fanart is for these two most of the time, I just can't see it. I feel like Mammon would annoy Adam. Primarily because he's a sin, but also because he's just that annoying. But then again, what do I know.
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>>154619757
Vaggi was no misspelling. So what makes Lillith one?
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>>154619765
Adam will only like Mammon if Mammon is purposely sabotaging Hell from the inside.
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>>154619705

> Yes, that's a good point. I hadn't thought of that. Maybe some where she's portrayed as the one that's been killed instead of Adam.

I imagine a very popular AU where instead of taking on the guise of Lute, Eve ascended into Heaven and stands at his side as Heaven's ultimate power couple.

Imagine how different the Charlie meeting scene would've gone. Eve would've been more openly acerbic than in the original towards her.
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>>154619705
The eyes seen in the torn projection chart in Adam's office during the song strongly suggest that Roo is at least playing a part here.
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>>154619842
I personally think it’s from Lilith and Roo is used as the source of the power. Since nothing about Roo will revealed till season 4.
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>>154619842
I've never trusted that thing and the way it moves, honestly. It moves too... creepily.
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>>154619859
Or Rosie, using the same source.
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>>154619765
Adam seems to genuinely hate Hell, whether that be because of its natural evil nature or because it stole his first wife who can say, but he's right to hate it. That being said, him hating Mammon is on brand.
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I want Mammon and Adam to kiss,,,,
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>>154619876
Lilith is supposed to be the big bad using Heaven and Hell to her own means. She used Adam, and since Lute is in charge, that’s her new toy.
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>>154619787
Common fucking sense
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What a shit show. Well at least it has a few funny moments.
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>>154619957
What Lilith misspelling has the common sense outcome of her looking almost exactly like the final show version of Eve?
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>>154619984
Some of the show’s material could taken out of context to be great story in a videogame.
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>>154619984
Indeed. But they're entertaining enough. At least for the time being.
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Rumors say that when Viv misspells Lucifer’s name, she accidentally draws Adam instead.
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I want to insert my penis into lute's vagina and see her stretch her wings out when she cums.
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>>154620120
For your itty bitty thing? Not happening. Can't compete with first man dick.
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>>154620138
Adam has to shirk to fit into Lute.
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>>154619985
You want to try that again? Maybe this time phrase it in a way people can understand you fucking twat.
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It’s pretty on the nose.
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>>154620180
The Lillith drawing Viv made looks like Eve.
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>>154620180
I wouldn't bother. Bugcuck thinks Eve looks exactly like Lilith because he's convinced that Lilith in Charlie's flashback and on the tarot card is Eve, ergo, looks exactly like Lilith with different bangs. He doesn't have good imagination and thinks the silhouette can only have blonde hair and specific bangs when we don't actually know anything about her design besides an outline.
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>>154620229
I don’t get it.
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>>154619279
You are so incredibly retarded Bugcuck.



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