The return of cute boys, wide hips, and fat butts
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And before I forget about it here's the document about building your own butthttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hflWs_SzJDraG4JhotQBDPy3CfyyC0N_X6GcyF39ca4/edit?pli=1&gid=847032403#gid=847032403
>>11160142best thread itt
>>11160178big if true
Happy Halloween
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>>11160286>>11160287>>11160288>>11160291>>11160292I wish Andy's ass was this fat
>>11160453he's such a bottom
need moar
>>11160142I guess i'll try to help
>>11163506Bottom is not just Ass...I guess.
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>>11163506>Football-kunGives a new meaning to 'deflategate'.
>>11163509God damn those bitches are huge
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>>11160288>boy has more ass than girlwew
>>11163825massive even
>>11163825real achievements are those you can brag about (big booty boy bitches)
>>11163821Twunks are so hot goddamn
>draw a boy>give it a girl's ass and hipsWew
>>11164196Femboys are already umrealistic and short term. Why not have fun with it.
>>11163825>>11163992>>11163999If boys were as curvy as girls, it'd be so over. Girls wouldn't be able to complete at all.>>11163509Mouse-type body
>>11164342>Girls wouldn't be able to complete at all.Nah. Girls don't compete with boys. Girls lust over boys! If boys had those asses we'd be in danger and constantly slapped on our asses!
>>11160178>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hflWs_SzJDraG4JhotQBDPy3CfyyC0N_X6GcyF39ca4/edit?pli=1&gid=847032403#gid=847032403curious how long it takes to see results?
>>11164868im curious as well
>>11164342>If boys were as curvy as girls, it'd be so over. Girls wouldn't be able to complete at all.i mean if this >>11160178 procedure were to be real, slim boys could have some results closer to a breastlet woman
>>11160286>>11160287>>11160288>>11160291>>11160292man that's some nice art improvement. i guess it really is true what they say about fixating on one character or fetish will help you get better.
>>11160142wish there was more art of this twink. I don't think there's been anything new of him in ages.
>>11164264Do you know the artists name I cant find anything with reverse image searches
>>11163511id eat that ass
Boys like this don't exist in real life...r-right?
>>11160178OP here, saw a few people asking if this actually works. No clue, tried using it multiple times in the past but got sidetracked by life. Going to be working on my physical health before the year ends and will be picking up the section named "The Cheeks" in the document as a workout routine when it's gym time.On a side note, seen subliminals for larger cheeks, thighs, and hips on YouTube around for a while now and never gave them a shot. Decided to put together a short playlist of them for myself and give it a go. Put them on in the morning and listen the entire time during my remote job. I will report that they are definitely working, after about 2 weeks of it during the day my butt is a bit more shapely and feels a little bit wider. Not saying others need to use them but if you choose to do the passive path for a large bottom you just need to believe that they will work. These things are entirely belief-based and won't do anything if you think they won't.Good luck to any others wanting to build their butts bigger.>>11167751Not to the extent that most of these images are, some people won the genetic lottery but you can build a larger butt over time. The image in >>11163040 is probably around the most realistic in terms of size, but if someone were to really push themselves and do everything for the sake of size increase you can probably really push the boundaries to something like >>11160172 but that's entirely based on genetics and effort.
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>>11168484absolute wife material
>>11167765how could you post this and then not even post the playlist?
Does anyone have pictures of men with bigger asses than the females in the same pic? I've been looking for some but don't know how to find them.
>>11168717I forgotAnyway here's the playlist I made and listen to for most of my day except on weekends. I have it playing for about 8 hours a day while working. It's all relaxing noises so you can also sleep with it on, plus I'll occasionally add more to it but I won't make it super bloated. Don't really think too hard about it. Just put it on, adjust to a comfortable volume, and think "Damn my ass is going to get so big from this". Give it about a week to settle in and then check for changes instead of every day, also helps to have an idea of your "goal body" in mind. For example, my goal is to reach something like this >>11163824 so I just keep that image in mind when I think about my "goal body" and your brain will associate your end state with looking like that.Anyway enough talk from me about ass here's the link:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5O5XDC3oQg_jaaqmzjaoJz3XKI7eGn6a&si=tFMsUp2yBL-NkTEr
>>11168717how dare they to be that shameless and take out their thongs, they need breeding correction
>>11168759if you were to find it share it plz
>>11168876I wish. I love seeing men absolutely MOG females in terms of ass size
>>11168759>>11168876>>11168955Tried finding some, my sources unfortunately failed me and only gave me stuff of the male either slightly smaller or about the same size as the woman/futa in the same image. Most of the people who draw this type of content either only draw guys or draw male on futa with the futa both larger and dominate. You'd probably be better off either learning to make content or just commission artists to draw it, they'd probably be fine drawing it.>>11168803 (me)Something I did forget to mention is you definitely don't need to listen to this playlist as long as I do. I only listen to it for 8 hours a day because I work 8 hours a day and don't have anything better to do. I might see faster results than someone else just because I do listen to it so much so take progress being slow with a grain of salt, or it doesn't work at all and I'm wasting my time but I don't believe that at all so I'll stay hopeful about listening to it.Also this content gets nuked regularly off of YouTube so if you really like specific videos or the whole playlist I recommend finding a way to download them. I do my best at finding high(er) quality ones that aren't super disruptive or annoying to listen to on repeat.
>>11160178>>11168803Thanks for these, love self improvement and experimentation. Will try these out for the next week and if the tread is still here i will give an update on how i think its going.
>>11169076No worries, I know a good portion of the people who use these threads want to grow a large butt (including me). But in the case that they don't, they might know someone who is trying to get a larger butt, and through information shared between Bottom Heavy Boys threads the seemingly impossible might just become possible with enough effort. It might not always work to the extent someone wants it to but if you shoot for the moon and miss, you've still landed amongst the stars. Good luck with your improvements and I hope they work out for you.On another note, I managed to find exactly one image of a guy significantly larger than the woman in the image.
>>11169114>>11169076>>11160178>>11167765any type of gym routine isn't something you do for a few weeks and see results. Any kind of routine is months to years of consistency and tiny changes along the way. Unless you commit to it for the longrun you won't see changes. >t. gymfag who has been training consistently for 7 years
>>11168803these definitly give me a tense tingly feeling in the booty. Maybe that's how they work. Make you flex and build the muscle that way. Or maybe I'm just a reality warper and this is a way to program my subconcious to influence reality in a controlled manner rather than the "You thought about something yesterday here's a commercial of something brand new involving that thing!" stuff I usually get.
>>11168905Yes please
>>11169246true
Posting a few classics.
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If any of you start growing bigger asses you need to promise to have sex with me
>>11174707say it louder for the people in the back
>>11174707men dont have butts like the ones in the drawings unfortunately :-(
>>11174772YET
>>11174772not with that behaviour
>>11174707I promise if the fat ass femboy cyborg body transfer program becomes a thing I will come back to this forsaken site and wring every last one of you dry with the fattest boy ass you'll ever feel
>>11174823Hmmm tell me what you'd do to me
>>11164196Seriously, edit out the cock and most of these are indistinguishable from a bottom-heavy girl.
>>11174823>fat ass femboy cyborg body transfer programWhat
>>11174823Don't forget to tell someone to bite your shiny metal ass if that day comes
I'm straight as an arrow but NNN has made me so horny I'd fuck these boys in the ass, with no condom so I can feel their insides as I rearrange their guts.
>>11174823cool same here
>>11177727I'd fuck the hell out of a country femboy
>>11176357he's so fuckable
>>11174707I'd give buttjobs to anons here after every workout just so you could visualise my ass getting bigger every time desu
>>11177899Watabouta bayou boi>>11177899
>>11167765>>11168803>anon gave out his lower-body feminization playlistyou've changed the world, buddy.
>>11177727>>11178953Must be hard being gay in the South, having to perpetually remain in the closet and all.As a San Francisco "city slicker" I would give them a good time if you know what I mean.
I can't believe that what's gotten me off my ass working out and taking care of myself is a stupid femboy fetish and the desire to be a femboy.
>>11179105As long as it motivates you, then there is no bad reason for taking care of your health and appearance.I lowkey work out because I want to be a sort of muscular guy who fucks femboys.
>>11179105hot
>>11179105Wanting to be admired for your appearance is very feminine behavior.I love that.Hope you accomplish your goal anon, I'll finally be nutting tonight after midnight with all the great art posted here and thinking about your curves... :)
It feels weird how my circle just came to the conclusion that I'm a femboy. I think they know something I don't, and it scares me.>>11179105Same, but no shame in that. I work on myself to do crossplay, and intend to do "content" in the future.
>>11179265I'd love to be smushed by these juicy boy cakes
all these boys looks like girls
>>11180927Well duh, they have the child-bearing hips and plump cheeks of women.
>>11181103erotic indeed
Don't die yet, I need more fat assed dudes.
>>11182260so do i, its like an addiction
>>11184962Please keep AI slop in the AI containment thread.
Boi wives, boi wives, boi wives!
>>11164868>>11165260Studies on leg muscles of people who have been training for about 1 year show they could gain 8% muscle size after 9 weeks (whether they trained consistently or had a 1 week break in the middle. personally, I've been trying regular training breaks of about a week and I can't recommend it as my mental health gets much worse when I'm not working out)https://sportrxiv.org/index.php/server/preprint/view/302/604As a beginner, you'll probably grow a bit faster than that for the initial first month or two (assuming your recovery and diet is good), so seeing results will depend on how big your butt (i.e. how fat) already is.>>11160178I made that routine a while ago, and it was a rework of one that was way too much volume to something more manageable. Some of the other advice I've given may be a little outdated, in particular recent studies on the amount of protein suggests it should be doubled striving for 3 grams per kilo of body weight. Another thing I'd go back on is the rep ranges - do whatever rep range (consistent for that exercise) that you feel is best. Anywhere between 5-30 reps has shown similar muscle growth.I'll write up a couple of new routines with different methods that could be better for gaining size more quickly.
I need to be the healer in a party of juicy booty warriors, rim their sweaty boi holes till they're ready for a health potion enema.
>>11190045Would you have the fattest ass of all?
>>11193365Chubby boys make me crazy.
>>11177924After a certain point I would start to ask for facesitting too. Smothering and torturing with that big strong muscle butt and thighs.
>>11194937>fat ass gum brosSounds hot.
>>11189585Hot, I can't wait to see how caked up you get.
>>11196078I don't actually follow the routine, I do full-body strength training, although my glutes are quite well developed.I think the initial catalyst for the routine was people talking about what the most effective workouts were, some sort of infographic being posted. Given that I am too much of a sperg to let the transgression of not optimising the routine go unchecked (it was stuff made for women, and women love doing junk volume just so they can do the popular "feminine" workouts which I consider "feats" in the sense they are things that look nice but don't actually grow the muscle optimally) rather than the kind of stuff that feels like it's going to kill you if you mess up. My point stands to this day - the best glute workout is a deep, low-bar squat. That's all I do for glutes and the results speak for themselves and even without the results the biomechanics make it obvious. Of course, you could do more if your goal was to grow your glutes even faster and the squat may be too taxing to train more than twice a week. People also wanted an at home routine so it became more about finding what was best for them.I'm still planning on making a few variations of routines for people who want specefic results. At the moment I've been making an anatomy info graphic to show what muscles these routine will develop to help people choose based on the results they want.
How can girls even compete? Boys stay winning!
>>11168803This all you cute boys after the gym listening to the bottom heavy playlist
>>11196719I'm so brainrotted my first thought was a bunch of gymbro's getting exposed to the playlist and becoming bottom heavy boy's
>>11196133Damn... Big thank you, anon! There is a hell of a ton of articles and videos about exercises and developing your body and their sheer amount make it nearly impossible to distinguish what is bullshit and what is not and to find the truth if you already have no competence in the matter. I wouldn't be able to do this.
this fetish just isn't sensible. being attracted to males with asses like that is like being attracted to females with jaws like dolph lundgren's; it's theoretically possible they might exist, but to possess such an extremely masculine trait a woman would have to be a one in a million genetic mutant. if you're into this then I hate to break it to you, but I think you might be... heterosexual
Starting today I'm going to be dieting (high protein) and doing lower-body focused weight training (glutes, thighs, hips, abdominals, etc). I'll also be experimenting with using Volufiline, which is an oil that stimulates fat cell growth under the skin where it is applied. It works for some people in the looks maxxing sphere for making breasts, hips, lips, and such bigger, with many reported permanent successes, male and female. Do any of you have experience with volufiline?
>>11197010Best of luck, I hope you get the fat ass you were looking for.
>>11196976Well the 'problem' is that anything is better than nothing, so people will see results regardless of what they do. Then they insist it's the best thing one could do. To be fair, I was like this too, it just so happened low-bar squats were actually best for glute growth, just some people don't want any thigh growth which makes it not ideal for them>>11196995Plenty of women have square jaws>>11197010I've been looking up studies and it seems like Volufiline will do the opposite - reducing inflammation and possibly reducing fat. I've seen people quoting some data that it increases growth, but I couldn't find the source and it goes against all the other data I've see. It's likely they misinterpreted somethingOne of the studies on Anemarrhena asphodeloides (which is where the active ingredient Sarsasapogenin is extracted from) included some other herbal extracts that seemed to have a fat boosting effecthttps://koreascience.kr/article/JAKO201211666470260.pdfUnfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any commercial products derived from Staurogyne Repens as according to this (via google translate) it's difficult to mass produce. Maybe you could try extracting it yourself as it doesn't seem that complicated.And if you're trying to gain fat, you want to make sure that you're doing some degree of caloric surplus (100-200 calories) which is something you should be doing to optimise muscle growth anyway. If you could get a compound to promote fat growth in certain places, the surplus may only benefit
>>11198029I forgot to include the graph from the studyI also don't know how faith should be placed in these results as it is a small sample size and it is on women whose breasts can fluctuate in size naturally
>>11197010>>11198029Wait, I got it wrong.It was Serenoa repens (I had just typed in s repenes as that was listed in the graph and it gave me a different plant)Another name for this is saw palmetto, which you can buy oils for this as it's often used to treat male-pattern baldness due to it reducing DHTAny other estrogen or phytoestrogen ointment would likely have the same effect
I would be interested to know if saw palmetto actually works like it does in that study, so if anyone's willing to try it, would they also be willing to engage in some science?>>11197010By which I mean, only apply it to one side of the body for a month or two to gauge the difference. (Then obviously switch for the same period of time to even it out). Even just a visual difference (thigh/glute looks softer and rounder for sure) would be fine., although testing the thickness of each thigh and glute (I guess you'd measure from butt crack to dick root) with a tape measure flat along the skin would be better (needing before and after of each in case legs were uneven to begin with). Using fat callipers may also be yla useful measurement.If I knew it worked (outside of testing ok women's breasts), I'd be willing to add as a recommendation on the spreadsheet. And I'm sure those using would like to know if it actually is worth to keep paying for
>>11197010Volufiline is fake. It was mentioned in one of the previous threads, and at some point I decides to ask people about it here, but quick investigation revealed that it is not working like it should. Volufiline is only temporarily increase volume via swelling and research said that any topical cream just isn't capable of penetrating through skin to affect the fat cells below. So it is scammy marketing potion.It may be useful for photos, I guess, but does it really worth it?>>11198659Since I was the guy who originally wanted to try volufiline in this exact way I'm not against trying this thing, but isn't there the same problem with skin blocking the oil to reach fat? I'm not a dermatologist after all.Also if palmetto is used on head, wouldn't it grow fat there then? That sounds like a very reasonable thing to complain about on websites if this actually happens, so there should be people doing this if increased amount of fat is significant enough and this is what we are searching for. I dunno for what duration the palmetto is used but it should be a several months at least since it is for curing baldness like finasteride, and a few months should be enough to make the difference, I'm assuming.
>>11198948>Volufiline is fakeYeah, every study I've seen suggests that, but people still support it for some reason.>but isn't there the same problem with skin blocking the oil to reach fatWell the problem with volufiline isn't the lack of penetration but that it doesn't seem to be the sort of compound to actually do what people want. Saw palmetto actually does seem to have some feminising effects elsewhere.>Also if palmetto is used on head, wouldn't it grow fat there then?My guess is it's interacting with the existing fat cells to multiply them, which there isn't much on the head to have thet be noticeable.According to the ever reliable ChatGPT, saw palmetto can be easily absorbed into the skin, but it may have trouble being absorbed into the fat beneath. This can be enhanced in a few ways (from ChatGPT):- Penetration Enhancers: Compounds like ethanol, propylene glycol, or oleic acid can disrupt the stratum corneum and improve penetration.- Nanoformulations: Encapsulation in liposomes, solid lipid nanoparticles (SLNs), or microemulsions can enhance delivery to deeper skin layers.- Oil-Based Vehicles: Combining saw palmetto extract with carrier oils (e.g., jojoba, coconut) can facilitate absorption.- Occlusion: Covering the application area with a plastic wrap or similar material can increase skin hydration and enhance absorption.- Microneedles: Create microchannels in the skin to bypass the stratum corneum and deliver saw palmetto directly to deeper layers.- Massage: Improves blood flow and can help the compound reach deeper tissues.So a few of these methods could be tried to get better results. In the study they made it into a gel pack that had some penetration enhancers and an oil-based vehicle. If the translation is correct, it seems that this pack may have been something they left on for 12 hours (after showering in the evening and presumably sleeping in it) so it seems they were using an occlusion method. Supposedly this study was for 5 days
>>11199014>Yeah, every study I've seen suggests that, but people still support it for some reason.Paid posts, man. I'm not trying to be a conspiracy theory believer here it is just a common practice, people who sell dick enlargement pills do the same and after all volufiline does increase volume even if only for an hour or so which is enough for people to leave a positive comment before the effect wears off and they may even don't notice this completely because it is diminishing slowly.Yeah, listening to ChatGPT is quite reliable, especially when it comes to covering your butt in ethanol. Jokes aside the most working and easy method of applying oil out of these that I can see is to: massage/slap the ass so it is red with blood, quickly microneedle it, apply the oil, then wrap it. Chemistry is dark magic to me, so I would be afraid to negate effects of palmetto oil when mixing it with something different and it also would be on the skin which may damage its quality.
>>11199063>Yeah, listening to ChatGPT is quite reliableThat's why I cross reference it with the study, they didn't use ethanol but did use other types of alcoholI find ChatGPT works best when you don't ask it leading questions and prime it by asking it more generalised questions before anything specefic so it is taking into account the general info in its later answers.I'd try to find a saw palmetto that's already made with the enhancers. Looking it up, most meant for skin already have some alcohol, and oil may not be needed as it is an oil. Another concern could be that it may oxidise (which ChatGPT says vitamin E would prevent) but wrapping the area probably solves this along with keeping the oil refrigerated.So just try to find one that has only saw palmetto in some alcohol (it won't list that in ingredients but say it contains some percentage) without any of the other additives meant for hair growth (although they probably aren't that effective). You may still need to dilute it because supposedly more than 20% is considered high for skin care products (although since this is meant to be deeper than skin care less than 70% may be fine). You should probably test it normally and for shorter periods before wrapping it for hours just to make sure it doesn't irritate.You may still want to mix with a skin care product, or use separately, with collagen since if this does feminise the skin it may cause cellulite.If you're doing the test on one side, you'd probably only need to do this on the thigh. According to the measurement data, growth should be only where it is applied. Assuming it then works, you could wrap the butt by laying on film and then wearing booty shorts to get the most surface area.And on dick enlargement, you'd want to avoid getting it on the dick since it would likely cause shrinkage or at least erectile dysfunction. Avoiding the anus to prevent accidental intoxication is also a good idea (so maybe no booty shorts)
>>11199127So, at this point what is left is only testing the thing, I guess? I'm either retarded or it is actually difficult to find saw palmetto in liquid form instead of pills and I should search with more attention and effort.I found two products so far, but I live in Russia, so it is not purchasable for everyone else.https://spb.uteka.ru/product/rinfoltil-serenoa-loson-dlya-uhoda-za-volosami-dlya-muzhchin-366494/https://eco-herb.ru/katalog/herb-pharm-so-palimetto-1-gidkaia-ynciia-30-ml/?srsltid=AfmBOoqLHn_m2bykFWjboObDeqVhxbev0tECCPZ1aBATHN74L1KB3JLgFirst is meant for hair growth and second is an extract.First is made from water, ethyl alcohol (30 vol.%), PEG-40 hydrogenated castor oil, propylene glycol extracts: real ginseng roots, green tea leaves, gingo biloba leaves, stinging nettle leaves, chili pepper fruits, saw palmetto dry extract, D-panthenol , zinc RCA, taurine, L-arginine, L-methionine, L-threonine, vitamin B6, vitamin B3, salicylic acid, linalool, menthol, limonene. This was google translated, I don't know what PEG (ĐŸĐĐ“) means. Also, on the cover it is said that stinging nettle also reduce DHT.Second is made from saw palmetto, cane alcohol (64-74%) and water.Just to make sure, are any of these two are suitable?Also, I should've looked into research you posted yesterday, but description under image with bust size comparison say it is difference after applying the product. Which one specifically? It is all in Korean language and gel packs they applied were made from 17 ingredients with the last being a plant extract. Is this image demonstrating effects of Serenoa repens? And given how much different stuff they put into these gel packs I assume there is no way it can compete with just applying palmetto extract as it is and just wrapping? Therefore microneedling should be used? I'm not pushing this I just actually have no clue.
>>11199400>difficult to find saw palmetto in liquidI just search "saw palmetto oil", which gives a couple different liquids despite none actually being oil based. "Tonic" or "Tincture" may give better resultsThe first may be fine, the base seems closer to what was used in the study. I'd just be concerned about it potentially causing irritation.Either seem suitable> Which one specifically?I'm not sure actually. The prior graph was testing directly on fat cells in a petri dish, where it mentions saw palmetto in the paragraph below. It then makes no mention of any specifics beyond "plant extracts" in the next paragraph when referring to the next figures. This could just be an issue of Google Translate missing something.> given how much different stuff they put into these gel packsAgain relying on ChatGPT, asking "When making a cosmetic product, what is the role of the following ingredients", most seem to just be for the purpose of skin careThe PEG-10 Hydrogenated Castor Oil is used to emulsify the plant extract, which is allowing oil to mix with water and may be beneficial for getting oil past the skin barrier since the skin secretes it's own oils. That's why it may be better to go for the one with more ingredients, since it has an emulsifier, but it's then a question of how much saw palmetto it actually contains (I think the gel pack was 1% or 3%, again the translation isn't clear)If microneedling is shown to get cosmetics through the skin, then it may benefit. Although alcohol may do the same thing, you may not actually need to dilute as I think it's saying that of the remaining 15% ingredients, a 60-70% proof alcohol was added. Of course, this would mean that the saw palmetto concentration is well above what was used in the study (85% vs 1-3%), so you may want to dilute it somewhat but adding it to a moisturizer before applying, just to get the most out of it. You could even try adding some hydrogenated caster oil if it doesn't mix with the moisturizer
>>11199454Okay. So, I will buy some and test it, but it will happen at the end of January or beginning of February, because I currently have some problems that should be solved and find a job. As I will get my hands on it, I will make a post in the thread and try to describe the whole process and everything else as detailed as possible. I will try it on one thigh and measure both.I hope it works and won't grow hair there.Also, relying on a single person in such tests is not the best idea, so it would be better if someone else would try it too.
>>11199481> I hope it works and won't grow hair thereIt shouldn't grow any hair since it is meant to prevent hairloss associated with DHT, not grow new hair. I wouldn't be surprised if it reduced body hair given enough time.> relying on a single person in such tests is not the best ideaI'd consider it a success if it worked a single time on anything other than women's breasts (which are things already prone to changes in size). If it does work like in the study, it should only take a week for changes to be noticeable.They measured volume and circumference of the bust, the circumference didn't change but the volume returned close to normal inna week. I don't really understand what that means, how one changes while the other doesn't. It will probably mean that people only use this treatment when they want to look plumper, like the opposite of bodybuilder doing a cut and water fast to look as lean as possible, although I imagine if you could maintain the results by doing it every second or third day.
Browsing this thread before sleep was a mistake I had the wildest dreams. Wore red panties for gym today, squats make you feel everything
>>11199770Did it feel GOOD though?
Now I'm horny again, dammit.
>>11199770Since when Roblox porn became so big? It is impossible now to search for normal images with big butted femboys without adding Roblox in the filter.
>>11199481>>11199672OK! I'm in on testing. I'm going to use Volufiline once a day with vitamin E and a microneedle for 1 month, and then Saw Palmetto oil for 1 month.Currently, at it's largest my ass is 44 and a little over and eighth of an inch. I do work out, and I will try to get slightly over maintenence calories.
>>11201532I don't know if you should bother with volufiline since there isn't any previous data to support it.In the study I linked they did both applying to breasts and applying to a culture of fat cells which both showed a reduction in fat. So if you wanted spot reduction of fat it may help, but for testing fat gain I'd only bother with saw palmetto.
>>11160178Why does this get posted every thread with no issue but when people start talking about estrogen on the "femboy with budding tits" thread, everybody loses their shit?
>>11201554I already have it and I've seen a bunch of people online saying it worked for them, so I might as well try it.
>>11201560Estrogens have side-effects. Modifying the whole bodies hormones just for one cosmetic change is unwise.Working out is good for you and getting bigger butt and thigh muscles isn't going to cause any issues (if people stretch and do the mobility drills to prevent any imbalance issues).If the targetted things like saw palmetto work, theoretically it could give similar results to HRT without messing with the whole endocrine system. While maybe it would be better if boys didn't take it, it's probably better for them in the long run if the only way to get them to work out (because apparently femboys lack any androphilia)
>>11201560Because it is dangerous? You can get an injury when exercising, sure, but estrogen have side effects, it affects other parts of the body and musculature, and have a significant effect on psyche. Just think rationally: it is a bunch of risks that should be taken seriously.Imagine an amputee fetishist telling people that he wants to cut his arms off, of course everyone would tell him to not do it. While taking estrogen doesn't cause so life altering changes compared to amputation of arms it is still affects the person greatly. Physical exercises are not a match to be compared with estrogen even if we talk in a context of achieving desirable body according to the specific fetish. They have a strong positive effect on your body and your image in the eyes of the other people because it is greatly appreciated by society to exercise.>>11201532>>11201572Well, if you are going to use Volufiline anyway, then make sure to measure after a couple of hours. Swelling should go away after that. Also, I vaguely remember that it would tingle after applying, that may have contributed to the belief that Volufiline works and it is magical.>>11199672>It shouldn't grow any hairYeah, I know, I'm just being a bit paranoid.
>>11201641>>11201646I wouldn't say it's dangerous depending on your goals. If someone wanted to look more feminine and was a gay bottom they're not really losing anything. As for the health issues, that doesn't happen unless you're poorly prescribed or do aa monotone which so e femboys tried doing back in the day (idk if they still do) to try and not grow boobs. It could be a cool tool in your arsenal in trying to gain a more feminine build.
>>11201694It has the potential to weaken the heart muscle may promote blood clots.I've also heard it can mess with bone health and can grow some sort of noncancerous tumors in the brain (which may be the same thing as the blood clotting).Perhaps correlation isn't causation, i.e. perhaps this is just indicative of the healthiness of the man who wants to become a transwoman, but it's too early to say there aren't any dangers.At some point twink death will come, so maybe don't try too hard to stave it off for a few more years.
>>11202334cursed image.
Honestly though. You guys aren't gay for liking this. It's perfectly natural.
>>11203483Whatever you say, closetted man.
>>11203483Fag in denial.
>>11203513>>11203738He's right, any red-blooded heterosexual man would want to fuck these beautiful femboys with the asses of women.The inside wouldn't feel any different from a woman either.
>>11205236Forgot to post the alt
>>11202332Sauce?!Look at that sweet mouth just aching for a heterosexual cock.
>>11203483>It's perfectly natural.Alright, care to elaborate on that?
>>11202429I wanna give 'im a reacharound
>>11168484>>11168905Fucking hell sauce?
>>11208804that’s from Jujunaught / Donaught. characters name is Fajji
>>11208831Very nice, thank you.
>>11202429Have a version with more pixels, hopefully.
>>11209573>sample Come on, brother. Be better than that.
>>11199770Cute.
>>11202332those plump thighs are asking for a good dicking
>>11202332Ideal bod boyfriend
>>11211825yea
>>11167288Looks like Axered7.https://x.com/axred7?lang=en
>>11202053Estrogen itself is only associated with the raised risk of blood clots + heart problems (not a big deal for most people, but a serious concern for anyone predisposed), along with the possibility of breast cancer. Bone density loss is real, but as far as sex hormones are concerned it's the result of having near-zero of either sex hormone for long enough, generally around two to three years, It's effectively the induced equivalent of menopause. Cyproterone (the longtime standard antiandrogen in Europe) easily shuts down testosterone production so it will eventually cause osteoporosis if taken on its own for long enough, and it's also probably the cause of what you were talking about with tumors. There's a a study which showed a correlation between cyproterone use and brain cancer. However in this context the cyproterone was being prescribed as a treatment for prostate cancer, which is still probably the most common usage by far. Anyway, for this purpose the dosage is about ten times what it's prescribed for HRT (though that doesn't stop a few dumbfuck doctors from prescribing the cancer dosage), so it's unclear to which degree the link observed in the study holds. Other antiandrogens also have side effects, some potentially serious and some just inconvenient.Thank you for tolerating my autism. I'm not a regular but here are some images anyway.
