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>>11426009
Poor girl

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>>11426023
there is more

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H a r d

>>11426655
damn whos the artist

>>11426741
Did a bit of digging and the artist is "marsupialman" on r34 however the one who edited this picture and made it a futa is "littlemedecine" on the same website, It appears they edited various pictures of different artists to make them futanari.

God bless their soul.

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Horsecock futanari can be very hot I've seen

Hey, I need you guys to help start pushing this out or tell me what you think could be better about it.

http://rentry.co/futanaritag

Also, if you think it's pointless, what do you think about creating a new term specifically for real futanari?
I don't like full package, to me that term is just as if not more muddled.

For the new term it could be fumale, fu coming from futa, but also being female with a 'u'.
Bisex for two sexes but this one feels too close to bisexual.

>>11428882
Futanari mean hermaphroditism

>>11428882
what you dont understand anon is futa originally was about being intersex. but since originally only fags were into futa since the dick was the entire appeal. faggots starting removing the vagania altogether bc it got into the way of their faggotery. so 99% futa lovers are faggots who permentatly changed the meaning of futa into basicly just meaning shemale. but i guess if you want to reatach a new "tag" to mean real futanari you could just call it Hermaphrodite or some sht

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>>11428882
>creating a new term specifically for real futanari
fuck off faggot, futanari is futanari it's japanese for hermaphrodite
even if another term is created or real futa enjoyers start using the chinese or korean or some other language term for hermaphrodite, at some point trannies will try to jump on that new term because the association with their mentally ill self won't be as strong. There is a ton of terms for trannies, transgenders,transgirls, transfemale, transwoman,tfem, shemales, newhalfs, t-girls, mtf, ect. Yet the fuckers still aren't please with it and you see them try to take "futa" for themselves. Doesn't help porn addicted 3rd worlders(most of which are probably indian let's be honest) are dumber and will sooner die than admit they were wrong for falling into tranny propaganda

>>11428986
intersex aren't hermaphrodites, "hermaphrodite" isn't used for genetic freaks it's used for mythology and other fantasy bullshit which include 2d porn or 3d porn of girls with realistic strap-on pretending to be herms

>>11428986
I wouldn't say it's just because of the fags and troons projecting their cocklust onto futas. The way the pussy is drawn in futas most times is very unappealing, sometimes it looks like a gash in the taint or in the base of the penis, sometimes to make it stand out from the ballsack it's drawn like a roastie pussy. Both artists and non artists probably converged towards pussy-less designs as they looked more aesthetically pleasing.

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>>11429176
>pussy-less designs
>more aesthetically pleasing
You are just a faggot, simple as that
not all pussies are roasty-type pussies even a single simple line would work as a pussy and i've noticed that not being able to handle roasted pussy to that degree is a classic telltale sign of a faggot or an auto-erotic tranny
also
>implying there is such a thing as a pussy-less futanari

What is your ideal futanari girlfriend like?

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>>11429189
Okay, it was just an idea, I agree that new terms would also be corrupted, but none of you commented on the rentry.

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>>11429011

Anon is 100% Correct, Futanari are fully functional Females with both Vaginas & cocks

You people claim you hate troons but will jerk off to futa, how is it any different?

>>11429448
Might be because of 'disappointing reality', and they want their 'ideal fantasy' to be true.

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>>11429448
I hate trannies because they're at best mentally ill losers that want attention but really just need therapy or a friend or something, and at worst are pedophilic death cultists.
I love futanari because I love women and have a fetish for femdom, which is facilitated by them having huge cocks.

A man in a dress waving that little pastel fag flag != drawing of a woman with a penis

>>11429479
Normal women aren't dominant enough. A giant futa can actually put you in your place.

>>11429495
Why y'all being submissive?

>>11428882
you are fucking retarded kill yourself.

>>11429448
Futa are futa. Trannies are pornsick AGP gooners.

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>>11429448
Hi. I'm not normally in these threads, and I'm just a visitor from the front page.

I like futa 'cause I don't like to look at guys in hentai/porn. For me futa X female is like female x female, but one has a very realistic strap on. Trannies are just people that look like or larp as the opposite sex, so it's not the same. It's like calling a trap a tomboy.

Anyway, enjoy your thread futa lovers.

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>>11429235
Serving my mistress

In your settings, if a futa impregnates another futa, will it create a super futa?

>>11428882
>what do you think about creating a new term specifically for real futanari?
No. If we give up the word, those confusing it will take it over. If we want the word to be used properly then we need to keep using it properly.
I also agree with >>11429011 on pretty much everything he said.

>>11429286
>but none of you commented on the rentry.
>Futanari (ふたなり) translates to dual form.
Is the translation not hermaphrodite?

>Dickgirl - A fictional female with a penis. Appears female in every way except they have a penis in place of a vagina.
Depends on who you ask I guess, but they are usually either male or hermaphrodite. If you go by e-hentai rules, dickgirl is the umbrella term for shemale and feminine herms. This term is helpful since not all works make it clear if the dickgirl also has a vagina or not.

>Cuntboy - A fictional male with a vagina. Appears male in every way except they have a vagina instead of a penis and testicles.
Admittedly I only focus on feminine herms, but this sounds like a female that is a male in every way except genitals.

>Intersex, Hermaphrodite - A person born with malformed genitalia, including parts from both sexes. Can sometimes have a functional set and malformed set or be completely infertile.
These are two different terms. Hermaphrodite has both male and female parts, but would not be considered malformed. Intersex often has malformed stuff though.


I didn't read the rest, but I (respectfully) think you could use a lesson on what sex is. I'll make a new post on it due to character limit.

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>>11429566
Living things reproduce. This is done either sexually (with two entities making offspring together) or asexually (a sole entity making offspring alone). In sexual reproduction the gametes (the "reproduction cells") come together to form the offspring. This can be split into two types of sexual reproduction: isogamy and anisogamy. If a species gamates are indistinguishable from one another, then that is isogamy and beings of that species are classified in mating types. If the gametes clearly differ then beings of that species is classifed as sexes. Those that make the small and mobile gametes (sperm) are males. Those that make the larger and usually immobile gametes (eggs) are females. Those that make both are hermaphrodites (or futa/futanari, which is just the japanese word for hermaphrodite).
These are the defining points of male and female. If you're ever confused on what's what, refer to the cells produced.
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>>11429574
That's the fundamentals. Now for some clarity.
Since sex is based on the sex cells one makes and nothing else, if you have a girl that makes eggs, but is a male in every other way (buff, penis, etc., but doesn't make sperm) then that is a female. If you have a guy that makes sperm but is female in every other way (breasts, vagina, etc., but doesn't make eggs) that is a male.

>What about those that are too young to produce sex cells or too old and no longer produce them?
Then go by potiential or loss thereof. If one will grow into that which makes sperm, then it's a male. Same for eggs and females. If one no longer can produce sex cells (due to old age), then go can by what they used to produce.

>What if someone removes their gonads (the organs that produce sex cells)?
Go by what ability they had before surgical alterations.

>If I take ovaries (and the rest of the reproductive system) from a female and put it into a male, is that male now a female?
No. Keep in mind where this all stems from: reproduction. Those eggs, now resting and growing in this male, are not genetically his. They are of the female he recieved them from. If someone else impregnates him (with a sperm that isn't his), they will not genetically be his offspring. He would not have reproduced. He is marely carrying someone elses reproductive system in his body.

>What of those born that cannot ever make any sex cells?
Those are neuters. They are of neither sex.

>What if someone has XX chromosomes but produces (viable) sperm (and no eggs)?
Then that is a male. Being male and female is defined by what's produced, not the chromosones. However, DNA/chromosones dicate what gets produced, so sometimes these are used instead, but the sex cells that are what defines male/female.
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>>11429575
>What is intersex?
Intersex is what we call those that suffer from Disorders of Sexual Develpoment (DSD). It's not classy, but if I may quote wikipedia, it's those that have "congenital conditions affecting the reproductive system, in which development of chromosomal, gonadal, or anatomical sex is atypical." You know how humans are usually XX or XY? Some DSDs are something like X0, XXY. Some DSDs have this issue where their gonads have both ovary tissue and testicle tissue. Some have genitals that look like a fusion of a vulva and a penis. Some intersex females maybe be overally masculine, or some intersex males overally feminine. There's a lot of things but essentailly intersex is pretty much those with sex develpoment issues, or fairly atypical physical sexual develoment.
Note that intersex is a condition/disorder and not a sex. If someone is intersex and produces viable sperm or egg, then they are still male or female respectively.

>What about human hermaphrodites?
To my knowledge, there's been no recorded case of a human hermaphrodite.


That's the clarity. Now for fiction and fetishes.
Usually in fiction we don't check or know if someone produces sperm, egg, or both. Because of this, we just go by genitals and/or gonads. Penis? Maybe even testicles? We'll assume there's sperm production and that it's a male. Vulva? Vagina? We'll assume there's egg production and a female. Penis and visible vulva? We'll assume herm/futa.
If the bearer is feminine:
With only a penis: Shemale*
With only a vagina: Woman
With both: Futa

If the bearer is masculine:
With only a penis: Man
With only a vagina: Cuntboy**
With both: Futa***

* - For shemale I'm using e-hentai's definition.
** - I'm not familiar with cuntboys, but I assume this is how they are defined.
*** - Technically a futa, but due to such a difference in demand, it's nice to have a word to distinguish it from feminine futas. e-hentai uses otokofutanari for example.

>>11429552
no, just more futas, duh.

Does anyone have the amano growth record from muchin in english version?

Does biological morphology play a role? Cuz i'm mentally designing dickgirl beings that morphologically don't have conventional female reproductive organs of 'homo sapiens'. Their gametes 'metamorphose' - going from testicular sperm to 'ovum sperm' which morphologically identical to sperm (but bigger), but its role is to be fertilized like ova. For me having deep fetish that two dickgirls docking (urethral penetration) as sexual reproduction, that Dickgirl A's testicular sperm flow into Dickgirl B's bladder and wait for B's testicular sperm to metamorphose into ovum sperm, and travel through sperm duct and arrive at the bladder, which A's testicular sperm let itself be "swallowed" by B's ovum sperm and begin the insemination. The birthing process is urethral birth, and first line of 'bladder birth'.
I call the dickgirl beings - 'gyne sapiens'. And i would like to know if anyone have their own deeper/specific taxonomy & worldbuilding.

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>>11429448
I don't hate them, but it makes no sense to me to have a futanari (inherently hermaphroditic) without a vagina. Then at that point that would just make them transgender. Which again, I don't hate, but that is again fundamentally different from futa. That being that a transgender person "chose" to become a woman, and a futa was "born" as a hermaphroditic being.

I also think that futa having both genitalia makes them more compelling, like they have these two diametrically opposed sides to their sexuality. They can be aggressive and male-like as tops, but the possibility of childbirth and "womanhood" (insofar as it can be biologically referred to) is never out of the possibility. They're natural switches

>>11429622
>Their gametes 'metamorphose' - going from testicular sperm to 'ovum sperm' which morphologically identical to sperm (but bigger), but its role is to be fertilized like ova.
That seems pretty cool.
>And i would like to know if anyone have their own deeper/specific taxonomy & worldbuilding.
I don't, but I'm happy for you.

>>11429579
I appreciate the lesson, but I already know that sperm = male, ovum = female.

Futanari doesnt literally mean hermaphrodite, but thats something it could be translated as.

The reason I combine hermaphrodite and intersex is because in humans it's different than futanari. What we call intersex people now, used to be called pseudohermaphrodites. In other words, having both sex organs partially, but only one gamete. True hermaphrodites have been found in humans having ovatestes.

I would agree that a dickgirl (woman with penis no vagina) and a cuntboy (man with a vagina no penis) are basically a male and a female. The defense for this is that they are fictional so what if XX can produce a penis in this fiction. I dont like it, but it can "make sense" depending on how its explained.

There is an anime airing this season and one of the main heroine is a futanari. It's revealed in one of the later episode and since it's not hentai or even ecchi it's nothing but lore. Still it's interesting to have sfw futanari in regular anime(and LN since it's probably an adaptation). The princess from Maze from the 90s was also a futanari but you would only know that if you watched the tv special(or maybe it was an ova, I forgot)

>>11430129
>There is an anime airing this season and one of the main heroine is a futanari
Which one you faggot

>>11429448
Personally I like to think of them as a magical third sex or women with realistic strapons. I have no interest in real-life shemales or biological dicks.

I just want a futanari girlfriend who loves me for who I am and I love her for who she is.

>>11430137
I skimmed seasonal anime chart, they might mean the elf from 'Sozai Saishuka no Isekai Ryokouki', I know it was revealed in manga at least

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>>11430003
>The reason I combine hermaphrodite and intersex is because in humans it's different than futanari.
How does hermaphrodite differ from futanari? (Serious question. Idk japanese)

>True hermaphrodites have been found in humans having ovatestes.
>https://academic.oup.com/bjs/article-abstract/69/5/279/6185759?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false
You're right. My bad on that one.

>What we call intersex people now, used to be called pseudohermaphrodites. In other words, having both sex organs partially, but only one gamete.
Maybe, but that name is outdated. Pseudohermaphrodites can't really be used synonymously with intersex since some that count as intersex (or having DSD) do not have pseudohermaphrodites symptoms such as some with Klinefelter syndrome or De la Chapelle syndrome.

I still believe that intersex should be synonymous to "one that has DSD" than combined with hermaphrodism. It is true that past humans who were true hermaphrodites were likely all intersex/DSD, however, if the day comes when a human is born with fully functional male and female reproductive systems, that person would be a true hermaphrodite without being intersex. Their plumbing is atypical to a normal male or female, but functional for a hermaphrodite, and thus not a disorder in my opinion. I believe being male, female, or hermaphrodite is a separate matter than being intersex or not.

>>11430175
At least give us a description of the character

>>11430217
There's only one elf among the main cast, the blonde with the weird name 'brolite'

>>11429235
strong and sadistic in general but feminine and loving with me only

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>>11429566
Cuntboys are basically the ftm side to the dickgirl/mtf tranny side. It's a guy with a pussy, nothing else is feminine unless the artist explicitly want to make a female to male tranny and made his cuntboy have a subtle feminine touch. The line gets blurry the more androgynous it is.
Male futanari exist too, it's a hermaphrodite who look/present like a guy but it's not popular for obvious reason hence why these conversations never include them.

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>>11430217
Here's your sfw anime futa bro. I really liked the coarse tomboy voice but I guess it was there for a reason. You can notice she doesn't have tits but also no bulge. They said she got both sex and thus it's not a tranny or whatever the fags that want to subvert "futa" think futa is.

>>11430367
Aren't Crimvael also 'sfw futanari' too? Cuz i have watched Ishuzoku Reviewers before, and wanted to join in the discussion too!

>>11430422
Ishuzoku Reviewers is anything but sfw, it's literally just softcore porn.

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>>11430422
oh yeah I forgot about him, he's technically a rare otoko futanari since everyone around him think he's a guy

>>11430479
It's good enough to stand out without the porn/ecchi so most people probably forget how far the anime go at time

>>11430681
Crim is such a peak character. Huge dick futa that's kinda boyish but still cute first and foremost. Just love her.

>>11430681
>a rare otoko futanari
Never heard that one before, but I don't think male pronouns apply because they view themselves as genderless if anything, they just claimed they're a guy for safety and stuck with it.

>>11430739
Man I miss that artist.

>>11430923
>but I don't think male pronouns apply because
He's otoka futanari 'cause he looks more masculine than feminine. It's to the point people assume he's a guy.

>>11430988
Bruh, did you even see how Crim looks? She's anime-androgynous, meaning she looks like a girl but has no obvious tits. Her behaviour pattern is very feminine too (diplomatic, submissive to other's opinions, non-confrontational). The only otoko thing about her is that she pretends to be a guy in case her guy friends ever feel the need to try some futa angelussy.

>>11430774
Sauce?

>>11430214
I separated intersex and hermaphrodite.

Also, someone keeps insisting that dickgirl being an umbrella term for futanari and shemales is the same as shemales and dickgirls being included in futa. So I have included gynomorph as the umbrella term.

I'm not interested in the concept since it's really no different than a tranny unless the fictional world provides a way to restore her vagina. But in a fictional world, you could say a genetic disorder causes a girl to be born with a penis or some kind of magic. Those ideas would be significantly different to a shemale and a futanari, so I will consider dickgirls separate.

>>11431232
makin

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>>11430924
Same.

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>>11429448
because a woman with a dick and a dude with tits are fundamentally different

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>>11430681
He perfect

Any good male on futa/subfuta doujin/manga?

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>>11431372
>Also, someone keeps insisting that dickgirl being an umbrella term for futanari and shemales is the same as shemales and dickgirls being included in futa. So I have included gynomorph as the umbrella term.
I think there might be some confusion from when I (>>11429566 >>11429579) used the terms dickgirl and shemale. I'm using e-hentai's definition. Comparing it to your definitions, shemale (e-hen definition) is essentially the same as dickgirl (your definition), though it does include shemale (your definition), but also requires a feminization tag if the character in question is a shemale (your definition).

Anyway, the reason why an umbrella term for (onna) futa and dickgirl (your definition) may be needed is because it might not be clear if there's a vagina or not. Take picrel for example. Does this Pyra have a vagina too? We can't tell from this view. In this case, what do we call her? If I was tagging this image on gelbooru or e-hentai, and I was using your definitions, which tag would I put? Futa? Dickgirl? (We already know Pyra normally has a vagina, but for argument's sake, let's assume we don't know this character or she's some original OC)

>Then use gynomorph
Your gynomorph also includes shemales. I think dickgirls (your def) and (onna) futa are often seen as similar, but shemales (your def) is a bit of a stretch from the two. What's more, just by looking at Pyra, one would not think she was a man that got surgery to look like a woman. I assume most shemales (your def) can be distinguished from dickgirls (your def) and (onna) futas just by looking at them. Thusly including shemales with the other two may not be necessary and may even be better off separated from them.

That said, I don't really care for the term gynomorph, and I'm not too firm on how the umbrella term should be used. Just felt I should give a supporting argument for why dickgirls and futa should have their own umbrella term.

>>11430990
It's a running joke that they all think he's an effiminate fag because he always pick the gayest shit when there is an option to do so. Of course it's not gay since he got a pussy too

>>11431951
>If I was tagging this image on gelbooru or e-hentai
Don't know about gelbooru, but sadpanda prefer to put all the shrodinger futanari as shemale so if you dont see the pussy but balls are visible then it's "shemale", if you can't see the pussy but there is no ball then it's "futanari". If you can see the pussy, then it's always futanari, if you can see a lack of pussy then it's always shemale.

Not him, but personally I would put shrodinder futanari as futanari until proven otherwise either by lore/story or visual lack of pussy.

>>11432282
>Don't know about gelbooru, but sadpanda prefer to put all the shrodinger futanari as shemale
I see. I assumed they had "dickgirl" tag since they have "dickgirl on male", male on dickgirl", "dickgirl on dickgirl", and "dickgirl on female" tags. It seems they don't have a "dickgirl" tag, but use the above tags for both futa and shemale, sorta making it an umbrella term for term.

>personally I would put shrodinder futanari as futanari until proven otherwise
I'm with e-hentai on this one. I think it's less jarring to find out a shemale was a futa, than it is to find out a futa was a shemale. Shemales are technically males, so for some strict futa fans, if they find out they were masturbating to a male this whole time, they might be pretty grossed out by that. A similar feeling to finding out the "girl" you were masturbating to was a genderbent guy this whole time. Same could be said for a strict shemale fan finding out it's futa, but I figure that's less common.

That said, an umbrella term for these two would probably still be most helpful.

>>11431951
>>11432282
>>11432343
I decided to remove shemale from gynomorph, since a shemale is a man, it's different than the fictional concept of a woman with a penis.

I never looked at e-hentai definitions. I used to agree that a dickgirl is basically a shemale, but I think dickgirl can be a concept on its own, consider a woman who has their vagina magically turned into a penis, but everything else is the same. I wouldn't consider that futanari or shemale. You could have ficitional disorder that causes women to sometimes be born with a penis, I wouldn't call that a shemale.

I added "What if I don't know if there is a vagina?" When the artist's intent is unknown, a gynomorph should be tagged as a dickgirl when there is no vagina visible. Shemale should not be used, unless the character has other male features or their background suggests the character is truly male.

>>11432521
cease this stupid mental gymnastic
>woman who has their vagina magically turned into a penis
Then it's a partial genderbend, it's sexually a male but look like a female. That's called a shemale. You retards always go on fucking stretch to avoid masturbating to shemale yet it's all you fags go for. It's not futanari then it's shemale, the only other option is trap/crossdresser but then it shouldn't look like a female when naked.

>>11432533
>cease this stupid mental gymnastic
nta, and I do think you are right, though I was kinda enjoying the mental gymnastics.

>>11432521
Are you maybe attached to the idea that a shemale could only be a male that was made to look female or how these often have an unattractive appearance IRL?

If it's about appearance, there are various levels of shemales from "clearly a dude that got surgery" to "WTF do you mean you have a dick??!" A "girl" being born with a dick (and no vagina) (or having this done by some magic) is merely the perfected form of this: a shemale that is female in every way except for the genitalia. Nevertheless, it is a shemale even if you are attracted to it. Having sex with this shemale is indeed gay sex. To deny this is akin to trap lovers saying trap sex isn't gay sex.

If it's about the "a shemale could only be a male that was made to look female" idea, then give this a thought: Besides the history, what's the difference between a girl born with a penis vs a male made to look like a female? (Assume the male has done a perfect job, or that even magic was involved). Is there any difference?

(I still stand by e-hentai's definitions for the record. Futa being a hermaphrodite, shemale being a female in essentially all ways except genitalia, and dickgirl being an umbrella term for both)

>>11432533
>>11432574
I agree that sex between and a man and a shemale or dickgirl are basically the same, although a dickgirl would have a female body whereas a shemale would have feminine male body. But it being gay isn't the point.
In nekoarashi's futanari diagram, he explains this point. Shemale is the result of gender affirming procedure. Dickgirl is not because it's fictional and the reason for their appearance depends on imagination.
https://nhentai.net/g/455238/10/

>>11432574
>>11432533
Also a shemale isn't all ways female except for the penis. It's a male twisted by surgery, no part of them is genuinely female.

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>>11432584
god shut up, your "dickgirl" is the same as a shemale and saying "nuh huh cuz its fantasy thus its not a shemale" doesn't change fucking shit. It has a dick and a ASSHOLE but no pussy then it's shemale. It doesn't fucking matter what fucking lore you give it, you don't have over 9000 terms for futanari because one is magical, the other is from drugs, this one is from surgery, this one is just temporary oh but this one a natural one, this one is also natural but 8feet tall and impregnate females by looking at them.
>using nhentai
As for nekoarashi's graph, it's not perfect like hefemale no one use this shit. It's mostly there to pull the western term of dickgirl away from futanari because too many retards keep shoving shemale into futa which is his main motivation from making that whole guide. You have retards like you who keep making new special groups/tags that aren't "completely not shemales!!" so obviously he had to mention it. It's the same thing as a shemale by every metric. It's a synonym not a fucking whole new tag/genre. Sadpanda use it as an umbrella term because it's better than having 2 sets of tags doing the same thing.
Also "gender affirming term" is a transfemale or a mtf, "shemale" is only used in porn but I don't know if japanese use "newhalf" outside of porn but I wouldn't be surprised they do.So once again, his guide isn't perfect but it is right in describing what is a futanari.

>>11428986
>futa originally was about being intersex
Are there sources for this? Or is it something obscure enough that very few people would have written about it?

Did mdf_an delete a bunch of their stuff? Their pixiv and twitter looks kinda empty

>>11432616
What is a dickgirl to you?
I was literally arguing your point before he convinced me dickgirl was different than shemale because it's fictional.

>>11432616
Provide your definitions for shemale and dickgirl please

>>11432616
The entire difference is what matters, don't be a fucking retard.
A shemale is a man, naturally born so. He cannot be female and will never look like one.
A dickgirl is a female, because LITERAL FANTASY says she was born such with a dick.
Through whatever metric it doesn't matter how she was born with the dick, what matters is that it was done naturally through the universe she exists in and has a female everything from brain to body other than the dick.
It's fantasy, it's fiction, and therefore is possible.
This is not possible for trannies, and so they mald and cry about dickgirls and claim to be them, but they never can be.
The entire difference is about one being natural and the other not, that's why dickgirls and shemales are not the same.
Argue cope all you like, but it's the basis of all sci-fi/fantasy to fuck with what we know and have fun with it. Dickgirls are fun and not realistic and that's why they're awesome.

>>11432639
id say that depending on your defintion, one is just a subcategory of the other.

>>11432584
>Also a shemale isn't all ways female except for the penis. It's a male twisted by surgery, no part of them is genuinely female.
You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Most MtF transgender people don't get any surgery done. It's just hormones.

>>11432739
Shemale =/= tranny. The text doesn't say that all trannies get surgery, but they commonly do get surgery like breast implants, FFS, and SRS. A shemale could be a tranny, but it refers to someone who wants to look female but is a man and keeps their penis.

>>11432574
>Having sex with this shemale is indeed gay sex. To deny this is akin to trap lovers saying trap sex isn't gay sex.
If they look like a girl, it's not gay to be attracted to them*. Otherwise it would be straight for a man to be attracted to a very masculine FtM

*Unless you are also a girl.

>>11432642
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>>11432574 (me)
>>11432583
>a dickgirl would have a female body whereas a shemale would have feminine male body.
>>11432584
>Also a shemale isn't all ways female except for the penis. It's a male twisted by surgery, no part of them is genuinely female.
Hm.... I guess I see what you guys are saying. It seems like a male feminization spectrum and you guys are saying that dickgirl and shemale isn't the same place on that spectrum? It's like
>Masculine Male -> Cross-dresser -> Trap -> Shemale -> Dickgirl

Where you guys define a shemale here as a male that has "fake" female parts (fake breasts, wigs, plastic surgery etc.), whereas a dickgirl has "natural" female parts. Meh, I guess I can take that. It seems reasonable. You guys also acknowledge this is still a male, so I can't complain on that part either.

A few questions though.
If I take a male, magically transform him into a girl, but he keeps his penis (no vagina), is this a dickgirl or a shemale?
If I take a young boy, give him hormone treatment prior to puberty, and he then grows real breasts, wider hips, and other "real" female features, is this a dickgirl or a shemale?

>>11428882
interesting
>>11429011
anon's right

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>>11432799
>If they look like a girl, it's not gay to be attracted to them
I agree with you, but I didn't say being attracted to them was gay. I said it was gay sex. Pedantic, right? If you're willing, hear me out for a bit on how I view if sex with futas is gay or not. (I was looking for an excuse to post it.)

When it comes to whether or not sex is gay, I factor in the sexes of the two parties, and whether or not they can produce offspring. Male x male sex? Gay. They don't make offspring in "normal" circumstances. Male x herm? Technically herms are males (as they are females), so male x herm does involve some same sex relations, however, male x herm can result in offspring in "normal" circumstances, so I don't consider this to be gay sex. If I can start a family with a herm and have biological children with that person, it seems absurd to me that this is gay. Likewise, herm x herm isn't gay sex either. Otherwise, hermaphroditic species would all be having only gay sex.

When it comes to someone actually being gay, I think that's when attraction comes into play. If a male is attracted to the female parts of a male (be it a shemale or a trap), I don't consider that male to be necessarily gay. That said, if they bang, that's still gay sex.
>Otherwise it would be straight for a man to be attracted to a very masculine FtM
Depends. Is this man attracted to the fact that he can impregnate this masculine FtM? (I assume the FtM still has the female plumbing). If so, he clearly sees this FtM as a female and is therefore not gay. What's more, if the FtM can bare children, this wouldn't be gay sex.
If the FtM has male plumbing and there's nothing at all femininely attractive on this person, then yeah, being attracted to that sounds pretty gay.

>>11429011
>even if another term is created or real futa enjoyers start using the chinese or korean or some other language term for hermaphrodite, at some point trannies will try to jump on that new term because the association with their mentally ill self won't be as strong.
It's not some tranny plot. People mix up other tags as well.
It's called semantic broadening. It's something known to happen with all sorts of terminology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_change

My guess is that it's probably because a lot of people aren't going to be thinking about the exact definition of the tag. They see a futa image or futa doujin and see a chick with a dick, and so they equate futa to chicks with dicks. They probably aren't going to look at the wiki and see futa has to have pussy and cock.

>>11432623
it's not true, retards keep hoping their futanari fetish can be true in real life but it's simply not the case. It's mythology that is the origin of it all.

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>>11432639
To me, dickgirl doesn't matter that much and shouldn't be overused because it muddies the water. The purity of the term futanari is what matter to me, it's either a futa or not. I'm fine with it being a catchall term because it is a descriptive term and sometime you need a catch-all term but it need to be reminded that then not all "dickgirls" are futanari because they lack both genitals. In this situation with a Venn Diagram, there is no way to have shemales be outside of that group because any dickgirl who isn't a futanari is a shemale. However not all futanari are dickgirls considering you can have androgynous and male-looking hermaphrodites. This is the danger with equating all futanari with dickgirls even if the non-dickgirl futa are probably less than 1%, they are still important because they highlight the difference, it's a "the exception make the rule" situation.
The big issues with the catch-all situation is that the criteria that make a shemale a shemale and not a normal guy is their appearance however the futanari's criteria is simply hermaphrodism, so the overlap between them is just at the surface level. They shouldn't be mixed as genres in the first place.
The whole fictional shemale being not shemale is stupid, the definition is clear: dick but no vagina= sexually a male. To come up with mental gymnastic to separate them from the term shemale is stupid, I will agree they aren't always trannies but that point depend on the lore of the story they are in.

>>11432648
Sexual male that look like females. Trannies, partial-genderbent(aka badly written futanarization most of the time), setting with everyone looking like females all fall under this category but they themselves are sub-categories in the same way ball-less futa and clit-dick futa are the same for futanari.
To differentiate it from crossdressers/traps, those are "males that tried to look like females" and thus don't have breasts(fake or natural).

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>>11432889
>acknowledge this is still a male
Yeah, the definition for sex lies in its reproductive abilities. If a guy is born with tits and look feminine then it doesn't let him get pregnant. It might be autistic to others but when your fetish is about hermaphrodism, SEXUAL hermaphrodism not androgynous they/them non-binary folx cancer then being precise, just and rigorous with sex is important.
As far as futanari goes it's a fully fictional fetish because humans are not hermaphrodites and intersex are just genetic freaks and I bet that if one could be a true hermaphrodite and look good they would have been very popular by now as either a pornstar or a medical research case. I also find it interesting that jav futanari porn is just girls with "realistic"(they are still censored) strap-ons who pretend to be futanari. To the japanese, they also make a clear distinction between newhalves and futanari even when it come to made-pretend porn. The closest thing to futanari in real life would be a girl with a massive clit because those clit-dick futanari is basically the one fucking thing that escape the (true) hermaphrodite criteria unless they make the clit be able to cum but since that style of futanari is really dated and not popular anymore no one is debating if those are futa or just girls with massive clits/pseudo-dicks and frankly that's a good thing but also show how much the current situation with shemales being pushed into futa is due to retards outside the original futanari community.

I disagree with "male feminization spectrum" shit. It's simple criteria checks like nekoarashi's guide but I don't separate between fiction and reality. Shemale is the catch-all term for non-futanari dickgirl to me. "Natural" female parts make no sense, a guy with gyno doesn't have natural female breasts yet they are natural and could look like any female breasts. If you want to go deeper than that then you must have sub-categories for shemales.

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>>11432683
stupid tranny shit
>a dickgirl is a female
Yeah something born with no ovaries, no vulva, no uterus is a female. Cool story "BRO"
not even reading the rest
You can change the definition of "gender" if you want, but to change the definition of sex is beyond mental illness.

>>11432889
I would say both of those are shemales since it's a male being changed although in a fictional manner. I would only separate dickgirls as something that doesn't have an explicit male origin, but sexually the are the same, male.

>>11432962
I rewrote the text to describe dickgirls as sexually male. I have become firm on the stance that sperm = male. The argument that dickgirls were female was based on saying that those characters had XX chromosomes or having a female brain. XX chromosomes cannot be a basis for sex if the rules of what they can produce includes what XY produces. A female brain is a nebulous concept and cannot be defined and also not a basis for sex. The best way to determine sex is gametes, therefore dickgirls are male. They are fictional and can have the rest of their body and mind be 100% female, but since they produce sperm they are male.

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>>11432973
Yeah XX chromosomes is meaningless, you can't see them and even then having XX would mean having a normal female body. You can't use real life science to justify fictional shit like that. Female brain is also not good because then you could argue effeminate homosexual dudes are females.
With stupid arguments like those, I'm never sure if it's people doing insane mental accrobatics to fool themselves into thinking that they aren't masturbating to "males" or trannies trying to rewrite definitions so they can fit under the "female" category. Probably both, but for the former they wouldn't have that issue if they liked actual futanari. Dick are the strongest after all, no one can beat them but pussies come second and still strong.
To be fair, when I see all the shitty 3d animations on /gif/. I can't help but think it's made for repressed trannies and fags(or bi at best), because it's almost 8foot tall musclegirls with hyper-dicks. They go for the least feminine shemales fiction can offer without going into actual androgynous territory. Hyperdicks are so stupid, I can't take that shit seriously half the time. Some artists can make it work but they are overwhelmingly on the drawing side of things.

>>11432623

I mean, if you want to get autistic about it. I didn't mean exactly intersex in like real life. because honestly I never understood it. Some say it's having a penis and no vagina. but having ovaries. Some say they have a penis AND a vagina. I guess it depends on the mutation. But what I meant was the general concept of having both genitals. but I guess, like the other anon said. It probably came from mythology. But it might not be that crazy that intersex existed back then. and it gave inspiration for the concept of Hermaphrodite in mythology. after all. All of that religious sht is 100% fiction. So the authors probably got the inspiration from a real intersex person. example. I hear mermaids were actually manatees. that sailors mistook a manatee for a human looking thing that lives in the sea. So fiction reflects reality. but now in modern times. since everyone is a gooner from the internet. The kike funded tranny porn industry turned everyone into a faggot and made them crave futa without the pussy.

>>11432986
I think they dont like vaginas, but dont want to be gay or associated with trannies.

>>11432986
>>11432988
It was me anon was talking to.
I'm vehemently bisexual and I like traps, dickgirls and futanari, it's all good to me.
He was just trying to put trannies and dickgirls in the same box which is retarded.
I said that it doesn't matter what most think, a fictional female is not an IRL tranny, she's born naturally but she has a dick because of magic or whatever the reason.
A tranny is a man, born such, and cannot be female unless literal magic zaps him into a girl, and even then he'd still have his male brain as that seems to be the tranny fantasy.
Then he pressed me on it because he couldn't accept that so I provided the simplest basis I could go off (which shouldn't matter because it's fantasy) that XX forges the blueprint for a female and that should separate it enough from XY.
The whole debate of semantics shouldn't matter beyond 'This is what a dickgirl is and it is this specific thing that's not a trap or futa, nor is it a shemale.'
Fiction is not reality and you determine the rules of the fantasy. It's a simple matter of course to say that girls can be born with dicks, though the fact alone that they're born naturally and beyond the dicks are still female alone separates them from trannies.
The intent is the 'natural' state of being to put a firm line between what is real and what's not.

>>11433023
It's not putting dickgirls and trannies in the same box. A standard male and a tranny can both be male, but different. So can a tranny and a dickgirl. You are claiming that simply saying the dickgirl has XX chromosomes is enough to declare it a female, but by removing the greatest feature of XX chromosomes; they create a person who makes eggs, this distinction is meaningless. If it makes sperm it's a male. That's how sex is defined. Your desperation to separate your fetish from trannies is forcing you to use tranny logic.

>>11433030
>but by removing the greatest feature of XX chromosomes
>Greatest feature, meaning multiple features
Obviously. You admit then that it's not just the plumbing that makes a woman.
If a women is born and through some freak genetic fuck up she has no womb, ovaries, or vagina, how do we determine that she's female? Her chromosomes, XX, and her obviously female body and brain.
That simple basis is more than enough to separate dickgirls from trannies, beyond the whole fact that such things really don't matter anyway because fantasy and reality are different.
There's no other way to explain it to you beyond the multiple back and forths that we've had that IT IS FANTASY, it doesn't matter because you the author defines what is reality.
Not sure what you mean by using tranny logic, either.

>>11433032
It's tranny logic because youre saying "its female because I said so" which is the same as "I'm a woman because I said so." Greatest was the wrong word, it is the defining feature. In no world, fictional or reality, can XX make a penis, because if it can, it loses what makes it the female genotype. This is also, "its XX because I said so" its tranny logic.

>>11433034
>Using 'It's X because I said so' is tranny logic.
This dragon can fly because I said so (literally impossible)
This dragon can breathe fire because I said so (literally impossible)
Beings can use magic because I said so (literally impossible)
Do you not get how retarded that sounds to say it's 'tranny' logic? Might as well give up the entire medium of fantasy, it's mostly 'tranny' logic.

>>11433035
The difference is that those things don't contradict themselves on their face. They are new and can have their own logic. A female has eggs, so if you make something up that doesn't do that. It's not female.

>>11433037
>They are new and can have their own logic
Thank you for proving my point.
A dickgirl in the context of a fantasy world is new to that world and operates on the new logic of that world determining she is female.
I still don't get how you're not squaring this circle.
You twisted my arm into giving you a barebones definition of what a woman is, which I said was a being born with XX chromosomes because that is the foundation that determines a woman.
In fantasy, literal magic, those new rules with their own logic you mentioned, dictates 'Oh yeah for some weird reason she just started growing a dick and balls rather than the usual plumbing, it happens sometimes, the gods having a laugh' as the only reason needed for the fantasy logic and reason behind dickgirls.
Because it's the exact same logic that allows for the creation of dragons and other such fun fantasy concepts, because we are not tied to reality.

Otonoko and futanari make the best pairs.

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>>11433078
True.

>>11433078
I object to this, futa x futa can be also best pairs!

>>11433037
There have been women in real life born with no womb or eggs, yet they're still female.

>>11429295
>Anon is 100% Correct, Futanari are fully functional Females with both Vaginas & cocks
I'm pretty sure they aren't fertile in all stories.

not really relelvant, but I've heard of stories where self-insemination is possible.

>>11433041
>You twisted my arm into giving you a barebones definition of what a woman is, which I said was a being born with XX chromosomes because that is the foundation that determines a woman.
>>11433037
>A female has eggs, so if you make something up that doesn't do that. It's not female
Both of these statements are inaccurate. You have infertile women and also women born with chromosomes that aren't XX.
>>11433030
>If it makes sperm it's a male. That's how sex is defined.
Pretty sure there are men who can't make sperm.

>>11433227
>women born with chromosomes that aren't XX
Exceptions do not prove the rule, however.

>>11433228
any exceptions disprove a universal rule

>>11433231
Not really when 99% of cases are normal.
You just ignore that 1% as an acceptable margin of error.

>>11429448
>Another self centered troon seething
Many such cases

>>11433234
That's around the amount of intersex people in real life.

It's believed that around 1-2% of the world's population has red hair.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24331615

>>11433251
And gingers are rightly seen as soulless aberrations.

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>>11432968
>It might be autistic to others but when your fetish is about hermaphrodism, (...) being precise, just and rigorous with sex is important.
No, you're right, and I don't disagree that it's important. The fact that it is important is even more reason to help Anon get his definitions correct.
>Shemale is the catch-all term for non-futanari dickgirl to me. (...) If you want to go deeper than that then you must have sub-categories for shemales.
That's fair. Your fetish is futa so it's reasonable you'd have no interest in shemale stuff. I'll even admit shemale stuff could be considered off topic in a futa thread. However, there is common confusion between the two. Asking about the definitions of, and trying to clarify the definitions of futa, shemale, and the adjacent in a futa thread might be clever since the futa lovers can chime in and with passion and knowledge to assert what is what. Also, making a futa + shemale thread just to ask it would probably be a waste of board space.

>>11432973
>I would say both of those are shemales since it's a male being changed although in a fictional manner. I would only separate dickgirls as something that doesn't have an explicit male origin, but sexually the are the same, male.
This means you're including sex origin in the definition then. I don't think I can agree with that. I think basing the definition on if the person was a male or female first, rather than on what they currently are, makes it even more messy if you're making terms for this stuff. I think it would be better to have the history separate, for example, "dickgirl + feminization" if the character was a masculine male first.

>>11433261
Shemales are a real thing, they are men. Dickgirls are also male, but they are fictional. Shemales should retain their meaning in the ficitonal world and dickgirls used for anything else that is a female body + penis.

>>11433227
>>11433144
Tranny logic.

>>11433279
>Dickgirls are also male, but they are fictional
Meaning they are female, because fiction.
>TRANNY LOGIC
>For perfectly salient arguments
I agreed with you and was willing to debate but this just makes me think you're a retard fighting for trannies.
I was right in my definitions and you're just being ridiculous.

>>11433279
>Shemales are a real thing, they are men. Dickgirls are also male, but they are fictional.
Similar to >>11432968, I don't separate the terms or meaning by fiction or reality. I go by what it is.
>Shemales should retain their meaning in the ficitonal world and dickgirls used for anything else that is a female body + penis.
That's not the issue here. Anon's basing it off of the history, rather than just what is it. A male transformed into a female, but keeps his penis (and no vagina) and a female that loses a vagina and gets a penis, are the same from what I can tell, except for that they have a different sex origin or history. Anon says one would be a shemale, and the other a dickgirl because of said history.

>>11433281
It is tranny logic. When you bring up that men can be women because women have babies, trannies say "some women can't have babies!" It's the same thing. Females is the egg making sex , and if they can't actually make eggs because of a disorder they're still female. But completely changing a woman to the opposite sex by taking away their vagina and giving them a penis with sperm means they are male. I dont even know which person you are.

>>11433284
I dont have a problem with people treating shemales and dickgirls as the same thing, because they are sexually. But the fictional distinction makes sense.

>>11433300
>When you bring up that men can be women because women have babies, trannies say "some women can't have babies!" It's the same thing. Females is the egg making sex , and if they can't actually make eggs because of a disorder they're still female.
Then what defines female?

>>11433302
>female is the sex that makes eggs
>then what defines female?

>>11433305
If you can be female despite not being able to make eggs then "female is the sex that makes eggs" isn't an accurate description.

>>11433310
If your toaster fails to produce toasts it still a toaster, just broken and dysfunctional.

>>11433322
Right, and if your fictional woman doesn't have a pussy and instead has a dick she's still a woman.

>>11433144
That’s correct. But trannys aren’t physically malformed congenitally, they got brain malfunction.

>>11432521
e621 (which is the only site I know of that uses the term gynomorph) tags transwomen under gynomorph if they have tits and penis.

I’m looking for a specific image if anyone can help find it. I saw it on this board months ago but I can’t find it again. It’s of a woman and she says something like “well my daughters at school and doing well, if only my husband would return” and she has this device called Deus Ex Machina or something on her chest and it suddenly activates, transforming her into a futa and there’s like blue veins all over her. It was a two panel comic. She had large breasts in the first panel and then they expanded in the second one with lots of blue veins covering her breasts and body. She was wearing a white shirt and had I think black hair. In the second panel she says something like “oohh my whole body feels like it’s burning!” And she’s got her tongue out, typical ahegao. She had a massive futa cock covered in the same blue veins that was straight up and shooting cum out like a fountain. The device I mentioned before is gray and is implanted right at the base of her neck. If anyone has this image I’d appreciate it.

>>11433023
>im retarded and my stupid made up lore should be forced on everyone else despite it making no sense
cool story faggot

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this

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>>11433144
You look at their dna and they have XX, if not then they are intersex genetic freaks which are beyond rare in the first place. You fags are insufferable, not content with trying to rewrite the futanari definition now you feel the need to rewrite what is biological sex.

>>11433227
>men who can't make sperm
Getting castrated doesn't make you a female, tranny-kun. A normal male always fulfil the role of the DNA provider to the egg, I say normal because you can always find genetic fuckups and that's what they are rare unnatural cases in humans. The goal of biology is to procreate and for humans there is only sexual reproduction and thus normal healthy humans have functioning genitals who fulfil their roles if you exclude external factor such as castration.
I feel the need to clarify all this basic shit that everyone knows by instinct because you retarded trannies always try to use the 0.00001% cases to squeeze yourself in.

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>>11433281
>this thing that has no ovaries, no pussy and only superficial similarities with actual females is a female because I said so
>t-t-this isn't tranny logic to ignore basic biology, u-u-u-um NO you are the tranny eh gotcha
holy shit did a janny nuked your /lgbt/ thread for you to wander her shitting all over the place with your overly dilated axe wound?

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@11433345
just kill yourself, not worth getting a (you) reply

>>11433261
>shemale stuff could be considered off topic in a futa thread
This is a Futa(nari)/Hermaphrodite thread, if it's not a futanari, if it's not a hermaphrodite then it's doesn't belong in a futa thread ever
simple as
>making a futa + shemale thread
There is(or was, I dont go there) Shemale/Newhalf thread. There was always a clear distinction between the two and it only started being eroded when retards found their way online. This is /d/ not some mainstream 3d porn site for indians, it's only fair to expect higher standards.
I barely go on the rest of /d/, it has went to shit like almost all of 4chan over the last decade. Back then they were interesting and unique threads, now it's all futa(actually shemale shit) threads with one slight difference and half of them should be on /y/ and the rest of the board is /h/ or low quality /trash/ tier shit or just endless low quality reposts. All these fucking threads on a whole fucking board for /d/ickgirl and fags want to combine shemale and futa into a single thread.

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>>11433482
It's fair, they use intersex/herm(or maleherm) and not futanari. Make sense they wouldn't go with shemale considering it's furryshit and thus isn't human stuff so using language centered around humans don't fit them.
As always, I need to remind everyone that intersex aren't actually hermaphrodites however the site seem to differentiate it from herm by having some androgynity involved so they already are better than most fags who keep bringing up intersex in those conversations. Also they acknowledge and differentiate female-looking herms from male-looking herms. Grim that such wisdom is from the furries while us humanfuckers are stuck with retarded indians and trannies trying to keep us in the dark ages.
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/25744
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/124
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/383
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/959
>gynomorph's tag is way newer than the others
proof this cancerous debate didn't exist back in the old days
if you look at its aliases, it's all dickgirl or girl_with_dick, the only futa in it is "futa_sans_pussy" which is the worst fucking shit ever created but it's an alias unlike other sites who don't properly enforce tags and let any retard make their own.

>>11433517
Right?
Dude be mad.
>>11433529
Furries used to correctly use the term herm and futa interchangeably, then political correctness seeped in and goth were considered evil words so it had to change to intersex, then even that got some flak and now gynomorph is the weird umbrella term they use despite it sounding like a name for some bizarre xenomorph offshoot.

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>>11433519
>There is(or was, I dont go there) Shemale/Newhalf thread.
You're right, there is one. Anon posted over there as well (>>11433380). I suppose I shoulda checked before I said that stuff. I'll debate with him the specifics of dickgirl vs shemale in that thread. If it's about futa, I may give him a (you) in this one.

>>11433284
If you say you go by what it is, would you call a snail a futanari? No, because futanari is only fictional, you would say hermaphrodite. I wouldn't call a shemale a dickgirl in real life. A dickgirl is fictional, because shemale is a real life thing and only has certain ways it can exist. A dickgirl can be something different. There's no problem separating male futanari from regular futanari. Why must dickgirl and shemale be the same because they possibly look the same in 2d? I'd argue a shemale should not have a perfectly feminine body like a dickgirl, but artists can draw a shemale like that.

The question is for people who dont separate the terms based on my definition. Do you separate it on a different definition? Or are they interchangeable?

>>11433641
>would you call a snail a futanari?
Yes, I would. I see futanari and hermaphrodite as synonyms.

>There's no problem separating male futanari from regular futanari.
Male futanari IS regular futanari. Most people focus on onna futanari 'cause that's what most are into.

I responded here (>>11433652) as well.

>>11433653
You didn't respond to second half of that post which is the real point of conversation. I responded in that other thread. I will clarify that a shemale is a male that is changed to look female with realistic means. A dickgirl is sort of a perfect shemale, that can only exist in fiction such as a man or woman who was magically transformed to have a female body, but having a penis or someone being born like that. I think the problem you are having is that maybe shemale was introduced to you as a drawing of a girl but with a penis instead, but that's a dickgirl. Shemale is used to describe real people and because of this it should be separate.

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>>11433513
>Getting castrated doesn't make you a female, tranny-kun. A normal male always fulfil the role of the DNA provider to the egg, I say normal because you can always find genetic fuckups and that's what they are rare unnatural cases in humans. The goal of biology is to procreate and for humans there is only sexual reproduction and thus normal healthy humans have functioning genitals who fulfil their roles if you exclude external factor such as castration.
>I feel the need to clarify all this basic shit that everyone knows by instinct because you retarded trannies always try to use the 0.00001% cases to squeeze yourself in.
If you are trying to create a strict definition, then exceptions matter.

The edge cases are closer to 1% of the population. A number which is similar to the amount of transgender people in the population.
This thread is about the edge cases, and specifically fictional ones as well.

>>11433781
point of the image:
Are there only 2 types of atoms in the universe?

>>11433513
>Getting castrated doesn't make you a female, tranny-kun. A normal male always fulfil the role of the DNA provider to the egg, I say normal because you can always find genetic fuckups and that's what they are rare unnatural cases in humans. The goal of biology is to procreate and for humans there is only sexual reproduction and thus normal healthy humans have functioning genitals who fulfil their roles if you exclude external factor such as castration.
Like I said in that previous post, there are men who can't make sperm.
Do you have a different definition of men that includes every man (normal or abnormal), and no one else?


They can't fit in this definition you already gave:
>If it makes sperm it's a male. That's how sex is defined.
Unless you arbitrarily ignore the rules you gave.

>>11433515
>ignore basic biology
And you shitheads ignore advanced biology because you don't like that it disagrees with your hate.

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>Open the thread for today
>nothing is worth replying to
Hope you trannies find the courage to fuck off back to /lgbt/ or /gif/

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killed by dick

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>>11428882
>Hey, I no longer care and you dont need to respond
Dick move after asking me how I define it.
>>11434255

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>>11426003
any futachads here visit the /futa/ board on 8ch?

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>>11434187
Vegeta’s busejita pegging by hags vitamin d

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semi-futa/spiritual futa

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>>11434333

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>>11434317
I got on other alt-chans, I keep hearing about constant dramafaggotry around hotwheelchan and its successors.

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>>11434322
tranny porn

>>11434333
just a big clit female, but could pass since it's unnaturally huge

>>11434334
actual clitdick futa because the clit has a dick shape and is cuming

>>11434436
that was the "kun" one but the "moe" one isn't that bad because it doesn't ban certain fetishes, i guess

>>11434322
>Do not post anything else than Futanari.
>posts a dickgirl

>>11434322
wish afrobull did more futa stuff he's great

>>11429235
Like an ideal girlfriend, except she's a futanari

https://files.catbox.moe/8gfb46.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/hvc1hi.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/y86fzb.mp4

>>11434317
I try

>>11435228
I'll admit that's nice, but it's not futa.

>>11433785
No, but francium doesn't demand I call it carbon and pretend it's not radioactive

>>11435079
>did more
>more
nice joke but you have to go back retard-kun

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This is one of the hottest pieces I've seen in a while. I think this .Ink person is going places.

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>>11426003
Heh

>>11434333
fellatrix's stuff sometimes feels offputting

>>11434317
does it allow non-futa dickgirls too or soley futa?

>>11436613
nvm I checked their rules page:
>2 : Futanari are girls with both a penis and vagina, but having both is not a requirement for an image to match the board topic. (Woman + Penis) is the only thing being asked here.

I like futanari with a small cute 4-6 inch penis.

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>>11437090
Crucial juicy

>>11437109
not a futa you stupid retard

>>11437109
>Say I like futanari.
>Posts obvious man.
I get it. Shemale posters are trolls.

>>11437109
Not a futa.

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>>11426003

why do a lot of western artist draw shemales and call it futa?

>>11438358
I guess people just don't know the difference.

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>>11426003

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>>11426003

Why do these threads always devolve into insecure losers coping about how they like girl cock by being transphobic

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>>11439616
>>11439617
not futa, kys and fuck off

>>11439621
>>11439623
AI cancer, fuck off

>>11433781

There's much much less than 1% of actual transgender people in the population.

>>11439864
>____ phobic
kys.

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Man is there any thread this autistic schizophrenic won't find? Every time someone makes a futanari thread he comes in here arguing semantics like a madman. He already got schooled, it's a colloquial term now. It isn't used in the literal sense by a large margin, and you trying to go on a one man crusade against anyone using in a way you don't like isn't effective. It's changed nothing, and the term is still being used in that way to this very day. It's going to continue to be used that way even as you grow old, lose your ability to properly post on 4chan due to arthritis and heart issues affecting you every time you get angry. It'll be here after your empty funeral and quiet burial. Another voice lost in the dark.

>>11440958
Well, to my opinion, i say this is because of 'exposure'. They had their childhood develop normal, but upon learning of this concept 'futanari' when they got their hands on hentai site, conflicting with their ideals, the butterfly effect eventually led them to here. Now, IF they hadn't learn of 'futanari' concept, they would have live a different life otherwise. So yeah, i see that the cognitohazard effect can change a person.

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>one man
>found out
just kill yourself, this shit is way older than you finding your way here from r*ddit and t*mblr
these threads were the same way for a couple of years without any major drama until your stupid retarded ass came in here to post shemale shit and got told to fuck off, fun fact there is a shemale thread on /d/ why don't you post some futa there and see their reaction it will be the same
most of you niggers either came from /gif/ or /lgbt/, /d/ has unironically fallen over the last decade as it became more and more /h/-lite, /e/-lite and /y/-lite

Does anyone have the HoldingNuts Trigger animation? Looks like the MEGA link doesn't work on kemono

https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/64153707/post/145168787

>>11439864
You aren't a futa. You're a man in a dress, and no amount of pretending will change that. If you're looking for sympathy for your mental illness, go to >>>/lgbt/, because you definitely won't find it here, faggot.

>>11441129
I'm not even trans lmao, you're obviously deeply ashamed of your fetish so you feel constantly attacked, you wouldn't be acting like this if you felt secure in yourself.

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POV

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next time someone argues that shemales and futanari are synonyms remember it's either one of these tranny >>>/lgbt/42060120 or some retarded cumbrain pajeet who don't want to lose izzat and will die on that hill

>>11441179
not even him but kill yourself
just went on /lgbt/ to check and found this >>>/lgbt/42060120
It's not even hard to prove that there is a ton of tranny that wish they could larp as actual futa. iirc before they tried to achieve some fake hermaphrodite state via surgery but now it seem to just be another word for tranny from what I can see from that OP; grim even they are being invaded by retards who don't know what the terms mean

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>>11438403
>>11438404

Tracking down the aftermath pics for these showed a neat contrast w/ Brazil furiously pounding Miku in one of them but affectionately spooning Teto in the other

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>>11441515

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>>11441515

>>11439864
?
My love for futa has zero relation to my hatred of trannies though?

>>11439900
>There's much much less than 1% of actual transgender people in the population.
Wrong.

https://usafacts.org/articles/what-percentage-of-the-us-population-is-transgender/

>Nearly 1% of the nation’s adult population, about 2.3 million Americans, identify as transgender.

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>>11434317
Yes.
[spoiler]I made a thread but nobody else has posted in it. :( My other fetishes don't have boards too.[/spoiler]

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Suction proceeds

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>>11442748
It's a shame this artist has made nothing but AI slop for the past few years.

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>>11442695
It's just a really slow board. Also if you're talking about the shameful futas thread that's a really ironic pic to use. One of my favorites though.

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>>11442825
>The only futa that are publicly open about having a dick are desperately and insecurely arguing that it doesn't make them that much different from a normal girl, or girls who have accepted that people will always see them as perverts and have resigned themself to being a horny loser.
>Girls who have accepted that people will always see them as perverts and have resigned themself to being a horny loser.

I kind of feel that she'd fit in that kind of world, but I didn't post her when making the thread so as not to send mixed messages. I think a big part of it are that images like what that thread asks for aren't that common or well tagged. People tend to like big dicked dominant futas more, or girls so overwhelmed by the pleasure of their cock they don't have space to think about hiding it. I like that boards there are slower, despite not getting many (you)s. Feels more quaint and cozy.

>>11442462
>itoddler filename
>sample
pottery

>>11442914
What?

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>>11442825
Those bulge

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>>11439900
>>11433781
Post vampire waifu

>>11442914
what did you expect from someone posted western hypershit art of ddlc?

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>>11442949
Anyway

>>11442996
where's the rest of this? saucenao is no good with cropped images

>>11442949
The filename is from an itoddler device, a vertical resolution is a very common sample size. The poster's brain is smoother overfilled futa balls.
>>11442949
I expected nothing and was still disappointed.

>>11429295
whats the sauce on this? been looking for 10 min now. the girl is my type

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>>11443308
https://exhentai.org/g/3697300/e08247ea21/

>>11443670
https://exhentai.org/g/3463966/4c89c79229/
look like she's in it, I recognize that weird 3d looking style

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>>11443973
very hairy futa but not grotesque-tier are underrated

>>11443730
thanks dude! i always wonder when iqdb/saucenao can't find things. indeed the style looks artifical, i'm simping for that futa though