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>entire point of store is cheap chinkshit
>here are some chink copies of better tools at 75% of the price
What went wrong?
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>>2846333
Checked

It’s the son of the founder. There’s barely any reason to shop at HF anymore aside from cheap nitrile gloves when they have a sale or if you can’t wait for Amazon next day delivery.

Quality thread OP
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>>2846335
I appreciate my local HF. Where I live the closest home depot is over an hour drive one way, and the lowes is so fucking bad I almost refuse to shop there. motherfuckers never have any cashiers and the self-checkouts have never, even fucking once, successfully allowed me to tax exempt my purchase, no matter how many times the employees tell me it should and I tell them "then come over and show me how" and then they can't fucking do it either and send me to customer service, who I have to wait a fucking hour to talk to because they only ever have one motherfucker at the customer service desk, who tells me the same shit and tries to send me back to the self checkout, and I have to make a scene telling them I'm not doing that unless they come with me to see for themselves that the fucking thing doesn't work, and then they usually finally cave and just process my transaction at the customer service desk. And I make a big deal about this because it has happened the last 4-5 times I tried shopping there, always adding an hour minimum to my shopping time. harbor freight had me send a picture of my tax exemption card to an email address and fill out an electronic form, and now it's tied to my phone number and all I have to do is let the cashier know I have a tax exemption at checkout, no big fucking deal.

also
>here are some chink copies of better tools at 75% of the price
same shit as craftsman but cheaper than craftsman. I don't see a reason to spend more when every mid tier hobbyist brand is chinese/taiwan shit but 25% cheaper than the established brands
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It was a genius move, retard. They are cornering the redditor goyim market of
>DIYer hobbyist redditor who wants a unique, premium LIFESTYLE brand(tm) that matches their unique, premium lifestyle (tm)
but at a lower cost than what the industry is buying. You know this. Just look at youtube.
Amerimutts fucking LOVE premium LIFESTYLE brands(tm). Virtually all marketing today is lifestyle marketing and all discretionary items are now lifestyle products.
ICON is a lifestyle brand for the superior, SERIOUS DIYer/prosumer who is a cut above the Amazon Chinesium/local APS/Home Depot hoi polloi and demands a tool that is likewise a cut above.

Changing a Camry tire with Pittsburgh/Duralast/Husky/Amazon no-name tools? LAME, boring, poor person things.
Changing a Camry tire with ICON tools? Cool, exciting, you're practically an ASE master tech or F1 pit crewman.

The success of lifestyle marketing in the car market is really all you need to know.
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Idk why people fuss so much about random ass chink rebadge brands for basic bitch shit like socket sets.

I only buy such tools from toptul.
They're the goofy brand of ROTARY group, a 40 year old taiwanese company specialising in drop forged tooling.
They do the drop forging and chrome plating entirely in-house and manufacture contracts for companies like facom and various others.
Their quality is excellent, and for every tool they tell you exactly what it can do. They use the german DIN standards as a reference and tell you by how many % their tools are able to exceed those.
Their tolerances are very tight and the tool sizes are exactly to DIN specs as well.
They have a really nice durable satin chrome finish, they sand-blast or polish every tool before plating it and i hadn't any finish fail on any of their tools.

A full set of 1/2" sockets, short and long sockets, with a breaker bar and all the bells and whistles was 99 bucks a couple years ago.
For that price and that ridiculous value for money, why consider anything else.
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>>2846443
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>>2846350
Mostly people want something that won't break right away. Regular Pittsburg gets a lot done though.
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>>2846443
It’s cool that they do it but DIN 1711 spec plus 100% is less meaningful than one might think. An M8 bolt (spanner 13) yields at 40Nm, DIN1711 spec for the socket is about 100Nm, so they’re tested at 200Nm but every cheapo spanner out there should do 200 easily. Also I don’t think they really have ‘+100%’ on the total spec because that would mean a HRC of 80 which is way harder than common metals

But still they’re cool
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>>2846350
just get an account at home depot and order everything online, that's how i use my tax exemption. i'm not sure why you keep trying to use it at the checkout, i realized after the first time it wouldn't work.
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>>2846472
pittsburg tools are based as fuck, go get a dirt cheap set of wrenches and if they ever break you walk in and get new ones for free
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>>2848863
Testimony to how much net profit they make.
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>>2846443
I'm sold but I don't have a wholesale company. Where can I purchase them?
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I do harbor freight on the off chance something breaks and I just tell the wagie at the cashier to get me a new one.
Nothing has ever broken on me yet though.
But one day it will.
And I shall call the wagie.
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>>2846333
can't be that different than HF
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>>2850810
Harbor freight changed their lifetime warranty now,

You need a receipt or an ID and you can’t warranty items more than 2 times in a 30 day period without a receipt

And their system only keeps track of your purchases for 90 days

The manager at my store told me this is the new policy because so many tools are stolen and sold at the swap meet they come in and warranty tools that weren’t paid for

I wonder what RACE he was referring to

Who knows, probably those Asians with six figure jobs and shit coming from Irvine

Dr quan doesn’t like buying screwdrivers
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>>2850810
…assuming you still have every wrench from the 12pc set or they might not exchange it at all

>>2852140
Wew lad, somebody else finally realizing HF’s warranty policy isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. It’s nowhere close to the ease of old Sears Craftsman returns.



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