Is multiplex OK for a working surface? I need to build my first workbench. Don't want cost to get out of hand.

is the cheaper polyurethane supposed to be water based or oil based

>>2861199
I built mine out of a door I got for free and it's pretty good.

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>>2861199
>>2861241
I'm back, I just went and did it. Used 18mm underlayment.

>>2861243
That looks simultaneously minimalist and overengineered. You may take that as a compliment. Can you explain the black pine boards? Is that an exterior wall?

>>2861246
>Can you explain the black pine boards? Is that an exterior wall?
Yeah, I didn't build that. It's the storage space that came with my house. There's a whole row of them for me and the neighbors, probably prefabricated and dropped with a crane or something.

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What's the deal with youtubers and their gay ass latex gloves? These things aren't going to stop a splinter.

How loud is wood turning IRL?

>>2861293
it's not that loud, whatever machine you're using is probably making most of the noise

>>2861239
If ‘cheaper’ means ’crap’ than the cheap one is water based.

>>2861261
They are covering prison tats or other identifying marks.
Some people are retarded an thinks it looks cool and just copy the fugitives from justice.
Also, zoomers are prissy and can’t touch anything dirty and depend on their mothers to come over and clean their toilets.
They can’t touch wood or fruit… a bug may have landed on it at some point.

>>2861293
Turning a 2x6 is going to start off pretty loud if you’re in a hurry.

>>2861168
I'm trying to make a "irish" flute out of poplar and oak wood dowels from Lowes.
I've done some trial error with fucking up.
I'm on my third attempt, the previous two split. I kept practicing on them anyways.
So for the third attempt I plan on drilling dead center wrapping tape
Rope and tape around the dowel it self
Soaking it in water over night
Drilling and letting the saw dust come out.
I was thinking maybe starting the hole with a smaller bit then increasing it.
Ideally the walls of the dowel will be only 3mm max.
The bore might be around half inch. Or 9ish mm.
I'm using an auger bit that's close to half inch in theory could leave a few mm of walls and it's like 20 inches long.
Any other suggestions?

>>2861433
Use white oak, not red.
Soak it in some kind of hardening lacquer and let it dry so it won’t split. Ideally thin CA glue (but that’s not cost effective large scale)

>>2861168
any recommendations for affordable woods that have the color and feel of rosewood or pau ferro?

>>2861433
find some bamboo/cane so you only have to worry about where to put the holes

>>2861371
idk seems like the cheap one is rated for outdoor use

>>2861515
That's not a bad idea. I got pvc so when I fail on the third I'll make it out of plastic.
This is me trying to get better at working on wood.
>>2861453
I'm not against using glue though as you mentioned that might not be the most cheapest option

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Any tips on getting perfectly straight cuts without a table saw or laser cutter?
I got these plans for a airbrush booth to make (you can ignore the numbers), but all I have is a jigsaw and a circular saw that I'm not sure works anymore... It spins, but it can't cut through 2x4s, the blade stops spinning and it smokes a bit

I've tried to make straight cuts with the jigsaw but the blade always drifts a bit, so it's all "kinda straight"

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>>2861644
Do what woodworkers did for millennia and add precision retroactively.

>>2861644
Two clamps and something straight gives you a fence to run against. Slowdown on the jigsaw if its bending, you can get precision blades which are thicker to reduce the effect.
Shame about the circular saw, is the blade sharp? Is the saw burning or is the wood burning?

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Made this siding thingy this evening. Also glued window frame.
Frameguy

>>2861644
I know this isn't what you want to hear but if you ever see yourself owning a table saw in the future just get one now. It makes silly bullshit like this a nonissue and lets you concentrate your efforts on accomplishing more/better projects. I'm middle aged and bought my first portable jobsite table saw a couple years ago and a lifetime of failed, mangled, or didn't-try-because-it-was-too-hard projects flashed before my eyes when I first used it. That said the way to deal with shitty tools is to overcompensate with fencing so that the jigsaw has no way to wander. I guess the meta thing to do would be to purchase one sheet of material, cut off the four outer edges and mark them as verified true and then use them to wall off a path for the jigsaw by clamping them on either side.
>>2861690
>just buy $1000 worth of hand tools bro
also this.

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>>2861168
Rate the chair I just built

>>2861779
Pretty sure you can achieve flatness AND a pleasant experience with $10 worth of hand plane and $20 worth of diamond plates.

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>go to the lumber yard bro, they have better wood than Home Depot or Lowes
>buy a bunch of 2x6's
>look like they've been in a wood chipper and have half the bark still on them

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>>2861788
Pretty sure you're talking out of your ass

>>2861798
>pay for 2" x 6"
>receive 1 1/2" x 5 1/2"
>but muh nOmInAl ThIcKnEsS (a made up jewish term)
You need a way of jointing and planing if you're buying from a lumberjew. Bring a moisture meter too lest you be further swindled by this creature

>>2861785
Sitting: 4/5
Joinery: 2/5
Water shedding: 2/5
Overall: 3/5

What are you going to finish it with?

>>2861785
execution chair/10

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What would you bid? I think max $150 is reasonable

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>>2861854
>pay for 2" x 6"
>receive 1 1/2" x 5 1/2"
>1/2" on each side are cut at like a 45 because it was tree edge
>2' of the edge is cracked
>like 2"x 3" is actually decent
I'm just putting up spanning some studs and sticking osb on top but come on

>>2861871
Why didn't you pick better pieces?

>>2861885
There wasn't much there and they got the forklift and loaded it. I asked after and they said I could just look through them myself but I didn't know that at the time since I never went to a contractor oriented yard.

>>2861887
Did it end up costing less than HD or Lowes at least?

>>2861888
The dimensional lumber was cheaper, sheet goods were more expensive. Even if I bought everything there it'd still be cheaper since the 2x6's were like $2-3 less and osb was only like $3 more a sheet. I bought osb at home depot though since I could have them cut it. I think all the 2x4's looked good aside one I grabbed a new one of. Not all the 2x6's were that bad, but if I was building like a shed I'd be annoyed. I orientated them to hid most of it. It was better in terms of actually being straight and not bendy like a wet noddle.

>mom found the suicide jig

>>2861785
> construction lumber
> drywall screws
> got some of the stud/kiln dried stamp on it
9/10.
Soak that thing in thompson’s water seal.

>>2861846
>it's the same website some anon was posting screenshots of $50 table saws the other day
kek some country

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I would like to try my hand at a colonial style chair -- and, if successful, a set of them. Alas! I have zero experience with lathes. Can /diy/ recommend me a reasonable-quality wood lathe with a duplicator so I can crank out identical chair legs without driving myself insane?

>>2861846
Several of the planes I use I bought for less than $10. I restored them with a cup of vinegar, a steel brush, and 2 grits of sharpening stone.
Expensive tools are nice. I have some. They are by no means necessary. Fine furniture has been built with shit tools since forever.

is it a good idea to make a bike rack out of wood

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can you strengthen this with tenons and mortises so it doesn't need the diagonal brace

Im retarded please help.
How do I do a dowel join? I have some 1x4s and I want to do some napkin holders and book ends with them. thats good to just start doing something right?
Should I do dowel joint or miter joint? Do I ask for a drill bit the same size as the dowel right? Just ask for a wood drill bit of the same size as the dowel right? If I do a miter joint just glue is enough? Isnt that end-grain on end-grain?

>>2862001
Sure. For safety I'd use a draw bore so even if it breaks out it'll still be held together. Also I'd use a better suited wood like oak.

Mama Tamar has a soothing voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McXJxYLXq-E

>>2861785
Is it comfy?

>>2862003
23 ga pins and glue would work wonders. If you want dowels, just use an equivalent bit.

You'll learn about glues as you progress. Normal wood glue or white glue is enough, but end grain miters are what they are. Fill the joint with glue squeeze it together and clamp it there.

why is wood working so based bros

Who are the world's best woodworking youtubers?

>>2862388
MathiasWandel is one of the few who actually makes something instead of trying to preach or sell you maymay tools

>>2861974
What? You can buy a plastic job site saw from 2005 for $50 on Craigslist? Pack it in boys it's over

>>2861991
No doubt, but people have caught on to the "make my old hand plane shiny and sell for 3x the retail price" schtick

>>2862410
yeah its like the prices are reversed

>>2862388
Essential Craftsman is pretty based

>>2862354
everyone and their mom is woodworking

>>2862439
Yh your mom is definitely working my wood heh

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why did he prefer white pine over dough fir

>>2862003
key those mitres with contrasting wood adds strength and looks sexo

>cutting boards for beginners!
>alright, let's go to the planer

Are flipover tablesaw/mitersaws any good?

>>2862003
Mitre joints are normally cut 45 degrees to the end grain plane so ‘half/half‘. But that makes them a lot stronger when glued than an end grain but joint. They’re notoriously hard to make exactly right tho.

>>2861996
>>2862001
I don't like the screw fastener. The wood will be rather weak on the end by the rear sprocket. I would try to maintain more material around that and potentially use a t-nut or other threaded insert. Even a poplar hardwood would be a better choice than pine because this thing needs some rigidity. Some planing, sanding, and painting would not be hard on the eyes. This can be done effectively with some labor.

>>2862982
I'd rather have a solid tablesaw stand and take out the miter as needed to break down lumber. I killed my janky hf miter a few months ago and haven't replaced it yet. I use the ts every day.

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>woodworker suddenly says i'm not a carpenter i don't understand carpentry
wut

>>2861168
Where do you guys buy your wood? Big box stores like HD or Lowe’s? I’m talking burgerland specifically

>>2863126
I steal all mine

>>2863126
I just browse craigslist and FB Marketplace and other classified listing locally about 30min a day and contact all the free and very cheap wood listings, sometimes even old nice hardwood cabinets and salvage from those. Only time I go to the yard to buy is when I have a special project in mind and need something very specific and expensive, or when I need sheets of cabinet grade or marine grade plywood.

>>2863126
>tuba fours
HD
>hardwoods
Menards, but I happen to live within delivery range of Baird Bros and their wood is immaculate and well worth the $60 flat rate delivery.
>Sheet goods
Menards unless I need something cut then HD

Went for an evening stroll and brought back a piece of scaffolding board. About 2.5m or so. Dubs calls what I use it for.

Suppose I would get some firewood to use for turning, would I need it fully dried or get it before it's dried?

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What would you do with this?

>>2863157
cut it in half then cut each half in half again. repeat until you're left with only sawdust. mix the sawdust with wood glue and pour it into a mold that is 2.5m or so. repeat this entire process until you're left with nothing. reflect on what you just did for several days

>>2863170
two words: woodchipper

What do you guys think of the working principle of this machine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZpQVjjtTrM

>>2863204
an insanely expensive push pull saw, a field table saw from sawstop and a proper miter saw does all this without that insane price, and probably safer too.

>>2863204
humiliation ritual.

>>2863204
Lol, it’s an upside-down sliding miter saw!
You could also make the case that it’s an upside-down radial arm saw, but those things are basically nonexistencium at this point.
what a bunch of retards.

>>2863156
>menards
I’m jealous, not a midwesterner so sadly that’s not an option. Think I’ll start checking Craigslist more often like other anon said.

>>2863170

A wood shed to store lumber.

>>2863334
>not a midwesterner
oof ngmi

>>2862065
of course it's an adirondack

i think i might be suffering from dunning kruger

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Painted 50/50 with tikkurila empire/turpentine.

>>2863600
where are the metal protrusions that go into the mortar

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>>2863613
Non existent

>>2863204
Unnecessary.

>>2863126
I don't buy lumber from Ace, HD, or Lowes unless it's low quantity and they're very close. Menards has basic quality of materials, tools, and home funishings. Their prices are very good, but any products above economy generally need to be found at specialty stores. Fill the pickup and drive out to do the job, is about where I stop with Menards.
Large amounts of lumber need to be bought from a supply store, wholesaler, or mill. The pricing, selection, quality, and logistics are much better.

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>the gap/spacer between tabletop and cabinet
>the gap/spacer between base and cabinet
What's the best way to do this? What if you can't use screws or any fasteners?

>>2861168
what's the issue with bourbonmoth? i don't watch any of his stuff but ads sometimes come up on my facebook feed.

>>2861644
get a new blade for the circ saw and a straightedge or better, a circular saw clamping guide. that pattern is laid out weird and would need a 5x5 sheet. i'd move the pieces around so it will fit on a 4x8 sheet. don't forget an allowance for the width of your saw blade. get a decent blade for the saw and it will make the job a lot more pleasant. if you're cutting this out of plywood, get a higher tooth plywood blade and that will avoid tearout and give you nice clean cuts. lay your main work on a sacrificial piece to completely avoid the tearout.

>>2861779
would not recommend a table saw for as the first tool for working with sheet goods. the small table on a contractor saw is awkward at best for dealing with sheets.

How retarded am I?
I got a circular saw, I pressed a board between a speedsquare and the table to keep the cut straight.
Am I going to Ack myself? Is there a better way?
In case is not clear the speed square guides the shoe of the saw not the blade, Im not that retarded.

>>2863760
Standard construction technique.
Practice and you won’t need the square 99% of the time.
You can also build your own speed square out of a few pieces of wood.
My square is aluminum… the “wood” of the metal world, carbide goes right thru it like butter so it’s not too dangerous.

>>2861644
in order of difficulty
CNC
tablesaw
tracksaw
circ saw
multitool
hatchet
jigsaw

>>2863760
It's a good technique when you need fast and straight cuts. Learning to track a pencil line is important too.

>>2863696
Looks like a darker colored plate smaller than the cabinet, glued on top of a cabinet and another larger plate glued onto that.
Unless I'm missing something it's really not that mysterious.

>>2863769
this always gives me a chuckle. I will admit that I cut out all the sink holes for my laminate countertops in a rental property I was renovating. It cut straight enough, but it is often the worst possible choice.

>>2861644
I know it’s diy not buy it yourself but most hardware stores have a state of the art $20k vertical sheet saws and will cut stuff like this for free, you’d only need to get the corners off, you can easily clamp a some piece of MDF onto the wood as a guide and use the jigsaw for those

>>2863864
>but most hardware stores have a state of the art $20k vertical sheet saws
lol not really

how do they waterproof the glue in an endgrain cutting board against water it's not like you slather on 100 coats of alkyd it has to be food safe mineral oil

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>>2863867
Use d3 or d4 pva-c and food grade paraffin oil.

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>>2861785
those arms look pretty unsupported against torque. I'd add a bit of support to the front under those arms. drywall screws snap as per design.

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>>2862001
I think this is gonna break.

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>>2862001
just don't let anyone sit on that rack

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>>2862001
support arch would help with twisting and eliminate the diagonal

>>2863891
nobody sits on racks commercial racks can barely take 30kgs bicycles aren't built like tanks anymore

>>2863864
>most hardware stores have a state of the art $20k vertical sheet saws and will cut stuff like this for free
Uhhh...no.
More like
>most hardware stores have a 20 year old vertical sheet saw that hasn't worked right since the store opened and will cut stuff like this for free if the stars align and the saw is working and the guy feels like doing it.

>>2863893
He could even just slap a fucking rectangular board in there and be done with it. Although the arch looks a bit better.

>>2863908
>and the cut will be wrong in whatever way will piss you off the most.

>>2863170
Compost thingy

>>2862791
finger joints shouldnt have knuckles lmao bro

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>>2863909
>the arch looks a bit better
maybe if it's a bike like this

>>2863867
Dried epoxy is considered food safe

>>2863865
No? In my country they do and I was under the impression home depot and the likes do as well. First 10 cuts are free

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>>2863805
Just glued? Is that it?
I want to figure out how to do something like this without making the base a solid piece.

>>2864007
then you need to buy a japanese joinery book

>>2864007
its probably dowels with wedges
how do you know its not nailed from the underside

Maybe another dumb question, Im new and I have a circular saw but Im trying to do precise cuts, I notice some small inconsistencies.
Do I use a lube or something to better slide the shoe of the saw over the wood? I think I saw someone use beeswax.
Is that going to ACK myself?

>>2863826
It's fine for curvy sink cutouts because there's 1/4" of flange covering all the jigsaw chipout. Also most countertops are formica hard laminate surfaces that the deck of the jig can't beat up. Third, nobody cares that the blade twists out of perpendicular because no one but the plumber looks up in a sink base.

how do you make a low effort drawer out of very thin plywood that can take a screw from the side

>>2864204
*can't

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>>2864204
old school

>>2864207
i'm supposed to have dovetails on 4mm plywood? how would i join the bottom

>>2864208
Glue.

>>2864222
i'm just gonna do thin blocks of wood with slits to hold sides and screw the bottom into the endgrain with glue

how much of a compromise in strength is stuff that comes together with fasteners rather than glue for taking apart and moving

>>2861433
What you're trying isn't impossible but it's definitely the hard/risky way...and for little to no benefit. You are essentially doing it backwards.
Boring a long hole is the hard part but can be made far easier by doing it on an oversized piece of square section wood that has enough meat to resist splitting and doesn't require precision centering of the boring tool...it can also lay flat for clamping down and maintaining position of the work for much of the fabrication procedure.
Once you have that done, shaving off the remainder to get a round outside is pretty easy by comparison and the final size can be approached in incremental steps without needing a boring tool sized for each pass.
A big meaty cross section to do the initial bore into is especially important if you use an auger bit, which usually has a screw threaded pilot spur and can exert similar forces to driving a screw, ie wants to split the wood grain. Unfortunately the typical method of countering those forces- drilling a pilot hole- can defeat the centering action of bits with a spur point unless you have a very stable holding/ drilling mechanism like a quality drill press and vice, or a lathe.
Finally a large piece of wood stock is far less likely to deflect under working pressures than a dowel, and commercially available dowels are notorious for being warped or on their way to warping...even if you get a perfect tube it will be far more likely to split if the outer and inner machining processes of the exposed surfaces are separated by lots of time ( you don't even know when the dowel was made), compared to boring the inside and shaping the outside of the tube within a span of hours or a few days. Besides mechanical stresses, uneven drying is a major factor in warping and splitting and some surfaced/milled wood lumber and products will begin warping literally as soon as you try to cut or machine them in the grain direction.

how do you etch fine writing into wood
>inb4 laser cnc
old method pls

>>2864448
https://presearch.com/search?q=How+do+you+etch+fine+writing+into+wood+%3Einb4+laser+cnc+old+method+please

I wanna build a short table to put a short charcoal grill on. I need tips on constructing it. Can i just whack it together with nails? Is 1 sheet of plywood good as a top? It doesn't rain here much, do i still need to paint/seal it? idgaf if i accidently set it on fire

>>2864448
>inb4 laser cnc
OK, bro.
A normal CNC.
Or freehand it like a motherfucker with a dremel.

>old method pls
Chisel and hammer.
Wood carving knives.

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What makes it shit

>>2864204
Take two sheets half the thickness you need and make the grooves for the rabbet and housing dado joints by laminating them together leaving gaps. It takes a load of gluing but it’s strong and doesn’t require a router. The bottom is inserted in a long groove in the sides and clamped between the front and rear

>>2864154
Use a fence on both sides of the shoe. You can use beeswax but it will stain the surface and look off when you finish it

>>2864151
Nailed how?

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>>2864151
>>2864697
Oh, well if you mean it’s just a sheet of wood in between with nails/dowels going through the whole sandwich, then idk but I also don’t care if it is.

I just feel like having basically a really short table as a base would be too heavy, I dunno. I think I’ll just go with a different design, I’m not as in love with this one as I thought.

taking a bunch of your woodwork and putting it in a storefront is like the dumbest way to make money from woodwork or what
>don't be a pro
what if i'm a neet and need to eat
>it'll take the joy out of everything
everything is already mostly joyless
>you'll need to make the same horseshit over and over
isn't there a way to mechanize work in an assembly line way to repeated things can be automatized
if it's making money it's probably worth it to even get a cnc of some sort at that point

>>2864928
>what if i'm a neet and need to eat
Well, technically you'll stop being a NEET, but you'll still need to eat and pay rent and etc.
You might perhaps not need to worry about your supply of sandpaper because you'll sell nothing and thus won't use any more sandpaper beyond the first few pieces you build.
Ask me how I know. (OK, it wasn't that bad...but it didn't/doesn't feed me, that's for sure)

>taking a bunch of your woodwork and putting it in a storefront is like the dumbest way to make money from woodwork or what
If it's for free, you don't really have much to lose. If it's consignment with a percentage, do your math.
Also, you have access to the internet, the largest storefront in the world. Facebook marketplace, Etsy, even eBay, other smaller buy/sell apps/sites, you have plenty of choices.
In either route, I hope you're prepared for an upfront investment, specially if you sell online. The thing that no one tells you is that usually you don't sell what you already built, you do it as a portfolio of sorts (specially online) and pray for custom jobs. So, either get really, really good at a couple of things, or diversify, do a bit of everything that seems to sell.

>>2864946
How do you ship a chair or large table across the country once somebody takes an interest in it is it even worth it is that what you mean by investment
There has to be some mostly free hick way to set up like putting a tarp by the highway
Custom jobs sound like a pita i have to follow somebody else's bs design
What if they ask for hundreds of hours worth of ornate carvings and youre not set up for it

>>2864973

UPS

Investment is the tools, time, and money spent learning to build certain things to use as display samples.

Flea markets and craft fairs have potential for some items.

>>2864973
Custom jobs are a PITA, wouldn’t do them unless you’re catering to richfags. Just make good products and put them up on your website/storefront

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I'm working on a walking cane for my mother as christmas present and have reached a point where I'm unsure how to proceed.
I'ts about securing the handle to shaft.
I have been sculpting and sanding the shaft down for tightest handle fit possible before applying glue but due large frame of my mothers I feel like I should either drill a hole and put a dowel through the side or wedge it from top to make handle extra secure.
I'm working with quite limited tools and resources (rasp, very sharp knife, small pattern saw and sand paper) so the issue with dowel is the that I'd carving it autistically by hand and the issue with wedging is being unsure and wanting to be sure that whole thing wont split since only things I have wedged before have been axe and hammer heads since after I start sawing the wedge slit its point of no return.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Beingx too autistic and glue would hold just fine?

>>2864946
>50% consignment fees is normal
so these brands are really paying half of the money on their good to random store owners seems too generous

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>>2865021
Just wedge it. Shouldn’t split if you do it right.

>>2864973
>is that what you mean by investment
Not really, shipping should be handled either by accounting for it in the price or paid by the client.
I meant mostly the investment in tools and materials to build an assortment of first pieces.
You can't take photos of your chair to put on e.g. Etsy if you don't have a chair to take photos of.
Also materials, time and money to make prototypes of pieces or even just to make templates for parts of products.
These expenses add up, specially if you're a NEET with no money.

>How do you ship a chair or large table across the country
Plenty of shipping companies. UPS, DHL, probably dozens and dozens of smaller ones.
But unless you're shipping something really expensive it isn't worth the cost.
No one will buy a $50 chair to then pay another $50 for shipping.

>i have to follow somebody else's bs design
"Somebody else's design" might be as simple as "I really like that decorative shelf you are selling, but I need it to be 80cm instead of 65cm."
That is a custom job, anything is a custom job if it isn't part of your standard offer.
It's your business, you define your limits.

>What if they ask for hundreds of hours worth of ornate carvings and youre not set up for it
Simply refuse the job and tell them you do not have the expertise necessary for such a job. Simple.

>think kerf blade promises 1mm cut
>delivers 2mm

>>2864687
The design, the materials, the finish, the construction, and the awful carving. It looks like something you would see in the wreckage of a hellfire missile.

what kinda router do you have for your router table

>>2865267
i've got the bosch 1617, no complaints

>>2865246
looks like it took some time to make

>>2864448
Awl

>>2865048
fuck i feel stressed already
now i need to do something else for a while to relax

would you make something like this and sell it at this sort of price? I'm pretty sure this is a money laundering front but I like the product enough desu

https://www.tymbr.au/products/shelvr-designr-double-l-bay-d390mm?variant=49601005486393

>>2865423
how do they make sure the parts fit perfectly every time and what about racking side to side

is basketweaving woodworking? how hard is weaving a picnic basket

>>2865480
>how do they make sure the parts fit perfectly every time
I'd say a well thought out CAD project and a CNC router. Plywood also helps.

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>>2865483
It's easier to just steal one.

https://www.youtube.com/@woodgirl0806 omg bros she exists

>>2865423
I'd buy a bunk of ply and have the shop cnc punching out 100 of those on Monday.

You can do it by hand and router just the same.

>>2865491
exposed corner plywood is always chipping at the corners

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can you whittle one of these with a knife

>>2865483
you can weave a lot of stuff, like grass so not really woodworking, it's just weaving. And no it's not hard at all but it will take time

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Went to the lumber yard again, this time the 2x6's were actually 2x6 instead of 2x2's with 3 inches of bark in them.

>>2865641
but you have to make those thin reels out of wood

>>2864928
-neet needs income
Do gig work and make kitschy things that sell fast to build up your chops. Gig skills can climb very high if you become an expert finisher or carpenter.
> coasters, engraved or inlayed anything, common style small furniture, turn bowls, pens, shelves, birdhouses, library public mailboxes, serving trays
>mechanize everything
There is cnc, but parts need to be assembled manually. The machines and dust control need to be maintained and materials sourced and fed. Some shops will just build out for every chain say McDonalds in the country. Others might build hundreds of white shaker cabs. There's a shop in town that only does doors and drawers and they're worth every penny. It's hard to compete with pro shops in production so doing something niche is often the best approach.

>>2865668
What about steam bent butt scratchers

>>2865668
whats supposed to be even skillful about making something in a modern machine woodshop since everything you make is just a series of machining operations it's only a step below cnc

Can I put colorant in clear varnish to make it a bit more interesting? I saw some cheap cans in the store and brought them home.

>>2865751
If they sell, they sell. Anon will probably have more to eat than if they try to learn kumiko or double bevel marquetry.

>>2865751
I've never worked in a joinery shop. In a cnc shop, the skill is in writing the programs for the cnc in a way that even the low skill staff can get the products out without issue. It's similar to Ikea building on the line.

>>2865794
This is polyshades. It's not the best finish to purists, but it can be the best solution to several situations.

>>2865804
ackshually i consider stuff like kumiko to be bare minimum to start making a serious business posted my shitty first attempt last thread
shit like spoons, bowls and butt scratchers is dollar store crap

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planning on building a built-in bookcase that looks like this. my wall is 16" wide and it's near impossible to find cabinets this depth. can i just buy some standard cabinets and cut them down?

also how much do you reckon a local woodworker would charge me just do it all. i may be in over my head on this one to get the result i want

>>2865860
Ok, so this is, like, my opinion, but I’d build them right to the top and forget about that gay lighting/dust-collection area at the top.

This is gonna cost a lot. I’d say $8K.

>>2865860
what is this melamine outside expensive wood inside?

>>2865860
this is ai

>>2865888
> melamine
looks like paint. Not hard to get a finish like that. Fill with drywall compound. Apply penetrating resin to harden it up, then sand and paint.

>>2866009
No don't be ridiculous whatever gave you that impression
>Picture of a horse
>Same picture of a horse reversed
>Two more picture frames obscured, probably showing the horse flipped

>>2861168
>AVOID (filled with bullshit, false information, or general faggotry):
>https://www.youtube.com/@katzmosestools
>https://www.youtube.com/@Bourbonmoth
I dont know the first one but what is wrong with bourbonmoth? I thought he was cool
WWG thoughts on ENCurtis?
There is a channel I used to get in my recommendations but I cant find it anymore.
It was a thin old man looks like a documentary interview and has this aura the he is kind of well known. He has some videos talking about how woodworking is lonely, that you will never get paid for the hours you put in because your brain is always working on projects, that he started with no deposit. I dont think I have seen him do much woodworking but he was interesting.
Anyone knows the channel?

>>2865860
>>2866011
whats in front of the shelf platforms and whats the bar for, curtains?

>>2866119
>brain is always working on projects
sounds like ocd

is there such a thing as carving a template by hand once then mass carving copies from this template

you ever have a problem when the cabinet door is closed with a magnet but it's too strong and when you force it open the panel on one side flexes and opens with a vibration
it's unpleasant to hear too because there's a glass in it

>>2866122
Its for a sliding ladder so the house can be ADA® certified for midgets

I just don't know how they routed those perfect rectangles on the endcap so well unless done with a CNC. I suck at this by hand

>>2865269
nice very impressive

>>2866157
>on the endcap
wheres that
i think they just used plywood rectangles as guides for the rectangles i see

>>2866155
Put a spacer piece of tape and perhaps some cardstock on the magnet (or the door)

I suck but Im learning.
How important is using leather after sharpening chisels? I dont have any and dont know what product you would use. I think I take care of the burr by passing the back over the stone at the end by I could be wrong.
I have a very shitty stone it doesnt have a number, only a "rough" side and a "fine" side, it doesnt even say which is which, I think I figured them out but I find it weird the one I think is the "fine" noticeably absorbs oil while the "rough" side doesnt or if it does is barely noticeable.
Im getting bad results but there is so much going on Im not sure what part is fucking it up or maybe all of it is.

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Anyone have suggestion for a good wood storage solution? I don’t have to store full size sheets, biggest maybe 3’ wide 8’ long. And a bunch of offcuts between 3’ and 8’ long.

I was thinking something like this but in the body of the triangle some square holes to put long beams

>>2866160
> router with guides
Another way they do it is by cutting thin mdf inserts and just gluing them in there.

>spends $10k on custom built-in with walnut
>millennial rips it out to put in MDF wayfair buffet & Chinese neon sign

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The Shinto rasp Aka the Japanese saw rasp is must have. It's super versatile and can go from removing lots of material to rough finishing if you're good with it.

>>2866208
how much of that is materials cost maybe he sold the wood because a 10k cabinet is a little excessive

>>2866213
Labor costs like 80% of everything made in north america. You got electricians driving around in g wagons.

>>2866215
just buy the materials then fly some slav in from eastern euro that'll be cheaper

>>2866217
I thought we left the borders open so we could have the cheap labor bring themselves here? Just go to the Home Depot parking lot

>>2866222
>Labour so cheap its stocked outside

>>2866211
japanese woodworking tools are a maymay bud

>>2866181
How sharp you need the tool depends on what you're doing with it. I sharpen mine to flow through edge banding and to finish a mortise here and there. If you're sharpening a straight razor to shave your face, you'll need to do a little better. if you're sharpening a plane to rip long transparent sheets of paper, you'll need to do more better.

>>2865860
Inset doors and drawers are more expensive. It's going to be even more so with those cheeky external hinges. The picture rail and panel detail are a nice touch. You're a few degrees of full custom from a cab shop.
>that baseboard cope

>>2866181
Depends how sharp you need it. You can strop inbetween sharpening sessions for some quick short-lasting extra sharpness eg for a final pass

With a cheap chisel the stropping sharpness is gone after a few hits anyway so you may not strop at all. If you’re chopping a mortise it’s not needed imo

>Look on YT for videos on painting wood with oil paints
>Videos about removing oil paint
>Videos about painting over oil paint
>Videos about painting with enamel oil paints
>Videos about wood-panel oil painting techniques
>Videos about BLO
>The only informative videos are from a company shilling their own product and are just basic stuff I already know
>If I search online there are articles everywhere about using linseed oil paints on wood

Am I a hipster? I can find videos of people doing rigorous analyses and testing of modern finishes and every other kind of paint but there doesn't seem to be even one (1) asshole on there using raw linseed oil paint on chairs or bookshelves or shit. I'm especially confused because I have literally dozens of /diy/ books from the last hundred and fifty years or so that go over using exactly these paints on shelves/furniture/trim/etc.

>>2866674
should say on the can how to apply...

>>2866770
>should say on the can how to apply...
Yeah, I know how to work with oil paints. I can strip them, mix them from scratch, apply them properly and do all of that. I was looking to see if there was any more specialized knowledge out there, especially regarding furniture in particular, and found jack shit. I just thought that that absence was weird because if you look up latex paint or milk/chalk paints or urethane/vanish/etc. there are tons of people slapping them on everything and analyzing them to death. I just found the absence strange given that drying oils and oil paints were extremely common from the middle ages until the post-war era.

>>2866773
As far as i remember, almost all paints were linseed oil based back in the day.
Then this water-based stuff came about, and the fucking idiots put it in steel cans which rusted through. That lasted years. Then they made the cans out of black polypropylene, with metal lids, and the lids rusted through, now they make the lids out of polypropylene too and all is good….
Except that water based paints suck. No way around that.

>>2866674
Maybe because BLO has been around for decades and raw linseed oil

gives a yellow ish hue to everything.

Anyway Google ‘eco paint linseed’, there are some brands that use raw linseed oil for zero VOC non toxic paint and they have application/result videos.

>>2866836
God I hate linseed oil marketing terms. Raw linseed oil paint is boiled. Boiled linseed oil is not boiled but instead has cobalt added. Polymerized linseed oil is (partially) polymerized but then so is every other kind of linseed oil, naturally.

>>2866810
>As far as i remember, almost all paints were linseed oil based back in the day.
Depending on how you define "almost all paints", yeah.

>>2866836
>Anyway Google ‘eco paint linseed’, there are some brands that use raw linseed oil for zero VOC non toxic paint and they have application/result videos.
I know; I've tried a few brands of those paints and my favorite so far has been Heron. My initial post was just me scratching my head about how little info there is on YT about oil paints as a finish for furniture given how often it was done and how every other finish imaginable has tons of content that you can find with almost no effort.

Yes I used plaster screws, what of it?

should i add a kerf to my bandsaw blade in the same way you'd do to a handsaw since it can't follow a line for shit

>>2866973
add a set*

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What setup do you guys use for doweling? I need somethng solid to do 5/16" dowels in plywood, was looking at pic related for 20$, but i also see they make the clamp style ones, and the "self centering" ones. Anyone have a preference? Or should i just make my own from wood and some kind of metal tubing?